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Gordie Chiesa on the NBA Playoffs, SGA wins MVP in back to back year, Conference Finals begin tonight + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: Peace out.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz with former
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  Speaker 2: Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiasa.
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  Speaker 1: He's forgotten more about the NBA than any of us
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  Speaker 1: will ever know. Let's not get crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Come for the hoops talk. Stay for his list of
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  Speaker 2: the day, My list today. Here's oc with basketball sabbat
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  Speaker 2: Gordy Chiasa on the Sean O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 3: All right, welcome back to the Sean O'Connell Show. Welcome
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  Speaker 3: in Gordy Chiasa, resident NBA guru. By the way, Western
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  Speaker 3: Conference Finals Game one tonight Thunder versus Spurs, six pm
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  Speaker 3: tip right here on ESPN seven hundred and ninety two
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  Speaker 3: to one FM.
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  Speaker 1: Gordy, welcome, How are.
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  Speaker 4: You, Sewan? I'm doing well? Thank you?
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  Speaker 3: All right, let's handicap Thunder Spurs as a series as
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  Speaker 3: a game, won I know you'll be watching with great interest,
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  Speaker 3: like all of us.
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  Speaker 1: Will set up what you think are the keys in
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  Speaker 1: this matchup?
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  Speaker 4: One? Rebounding the question philosophically, can the Spurs led by
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  Speaker 4: Victor Wenbiamba and Luke Cornette when he subs in the
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  Speaker 4: game out rebound Chet hongrim Aiah Hartenstein lou Dort, So
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  Speaker 4: the rebounde will be absolutely critical and the next part
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  Speaker 4: of it for both teams who can play defense without
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  Speaker 4: excessively fouling. Now we know Shay Jills Alexander's is the
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  Speaker 4: best guy in the NBA and the present tense of
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  Speaker 4: drawing fouls. So can the Spurs defensive players Stefan Castle,
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  Speaker 4: Devin Vassell, Dylan Harper. Can they guard Shay and also
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  Speaker 4: aj Mitchell without dramatically found later on when the Ultra
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  Speaker 4: talented off the bench, they bring in their second year unit,
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  Speaker 4: the Thunder where Jeremy Caine's played tremendous, Caseman Wallace. You
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  Speaker 4: know all the guys are there, Joe, Alice Crusoe, They're
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  Speaker 4: all going to try to create fouls both an opposite defense,
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  Speaker 4: So you've got to play defense without failing and rebounding
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  Speaker 4: and traffic.
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  Speaker 5: Where it's love, the jungle in the lane, the snub
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  Speaker 5: perceived snub by Victor women Yama, he did not win
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  Speaker 5: the MVP, Shay Goildess Alexander back to back.
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  Speaker 3: Does it factor in at all when we actually start
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  Speaker 3: playing these games?
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  Speaker 4: No, not at all. Absolutely, Now, once the game starts,
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  Speaker 4: there's no factor at all, And that Shay is the
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  Speaker 4: well deserving and Victor will get his chance very shortly,
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  Speaker 4: and so is Nikola Jokic and Devin Nuggets. Those those
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  Speaker 4: are three in the voting, one Shay, two the Joker,
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  Speaker 4: and three Wemby Umber. This is more than one individual.
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  Speaker 4: This is this transcends any one person. It still going
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  Speaker 4: to the NBA Finals. The winner of this series gets
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  Speaker 4: the chance to go to the finals. So it's absolutely
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  Speaker 4: and can they guys always can the Thunder? Can they
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  Speaker 4: repeat for the first time? And since the Golden State
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  Speaker 4: Warriors did it? And can the Philosophically the Spurs the
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  Speaker 4: model franchise. They're playing in their first Western Conference finals
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  Speaker 4: since twenty seventeen, nine years ago. So that's how so
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  Speaker 4: there's so many different storylines from his franchise point of view,
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  Speaker 4: but more importantly the players. And a little side note.
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  Speaker 4: Jenlemen Williams, who is an All NBA player who's hurt
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  Speaker 4: most of the year. He played in the players to
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  Speaker 4: start the playoffs. He had a great one that left
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  Speaker 4: hamstring strain. Hasn't played in the April twenty second. He
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  Speaker 4: will play tonight, probably not start him because AJM Mitchell
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  Speaker 4: has played great for the Thunder the second round pick
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  Speaker 4: number thirty eight and twenty twenty four out Sean out
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  Speaker 4: of UC center Barbara Gauchos is really that draft helped
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  Speaker 4: them so much without John Williams being there, and they
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  Speaker 4: he'll call up the bench for them, and that's how
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  Speaker 4: talented the Thunder are. As far as the one through ten.
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  Speaker 3: You just mentioned how long it's been since the Spurs
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  Speaker 3: have been to this juncture. Well, they're also such a
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  Speaker 3: young team that most of their guys weren't in the
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  Speaker 3: NBA the last time the Spurs were this deep into
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  Speaker 3: a playoff. How much does the Thunders experience that they
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  Speaker 3: were just here last year?
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  Speaker 1: How much does that help the Thunder.
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  Speaker 4: Very much. There's nothing like experience in any profession. Now,
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  Speaker 4: with that said, you have to go through with the
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  Speaker 4: b experienced. So that's that funny fine line that people have,
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  Speaker 4: and they're usually speaking, is that everyone learns from their
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  Speaker 4: past experiences, whether it's negative or positive. If it's positive,
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  Speaker 4: to validate what you know already, and if it's negative, negative,
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to learn from this. So the Thunder have
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  Speaker 4: that reference point. Remember last year the Thunder there were
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  Speaker 4: world champions, They had a jugg Nut Finals where they
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  Speaker 4: were able to knock out the Pacers. We know about
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  Speaker 4: you know about Haliburton being hurt in games game seven,
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  Speaker 4: four games to three, and so even when they're champions,
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  Speaker 4: it's still fragile, and so the Spurs just have to
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  Speaker 4: really try to focus and don't worry about the big picture,
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  Speaker 4: worry about the next possession in front of you. It's
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  Speaker 4: so critical to play forward, not backwards. And we see
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  Speaker 4: it all the time with younger players and with young
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  Speaker 4: playoff teams. Even though they have enthusiasm, they have talent,
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  Speaker 4: they play hard, but at that moment of where it's
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  Speaker 4: the moment of they got to dig in, they commit
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  Speaker 4: a foul, or they switch elevis, or they missed three throws,
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  Speaker 4: which absolutely critical. So the advantage will be the thunder
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  Speaker 4: now in game one. There's also a thing called sean
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  Speaker 4: nerves both. It sounds weird saying that both both teams
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  Speaker 4: are nervous as well as these guys are as playing
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  Speaker 4: playoff games. Is a thing called anxiety. So I always
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  Speaker 4: say that you've got to take a deep breath, just
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  Speaker 4: try to visualize in your mind you playing well, and
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  Speaker 4: just go on that court and be be the best
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  Speaker 4: version of yourself, but keep your mind and body and
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  Speaker 4: spirit all in the same place.
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  Speaker 3: Gerty, what does Minnesota need to do now that you
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  Speaker 3: know it was back to back Western Conference Finals, didn't
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  Speaker 3: quite make it that far this year. It seemed kind
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  Speaker 3: of stark the way that that that last game in
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  Speaker 3: the series got away from them to the point where
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  Speaker 3: they weren't even playing the starters all the way to
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  Speaker 3: the end. And uh, you know, ant Man took it,
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  Speaker 3: took a time during a time out to go congratulate
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  Speaker 3: this Purt. It's just like, I don't know, it felt odd,
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  Speaker 3: but one of the what did the Minnesota Timberwolves need
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  Speaker 3: to do moving forward? Because being good is awesome, it's
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  Speaker 3: not good enough to win you an be a championship.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they've been younger and they're going to get more
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  Speaker 4: overall shooting. And so Julius Randall struggled a whole basically, uh, playoffs,
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  Speaker 4: and so they've got to either move him or try
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  Speaker 4: to keep counseling him that he's got to play better
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  Speaker 4: and move the ball. And so they've got to also
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  Speaker 4: fast track this kid named Jael and Clark, who's off
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  Speaker 4: the bench guy from you. He's got talent. So they've
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  Speaker 4: got them, they've got to play more. Remember now they've
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  Speaker 4: playing with us, so without a Dante Guvicenzo, who's an
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  Speaker 4: emotional leader for them, and he hasn't been there. Mike
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  Speaker 4: conne we love him to death. He said he wants
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  Speaker 4: to play next year to be his twentieth season. If
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  Speaker 4: I'm the Tea Wolves, I'm making him a clase assistant coach.
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  Speaker 4: But now making I'm moving off from Mike Conley and
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  Speaker 4: I'm moving off and I'm changing their roster to get
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  Speaker 4: younger guys and guys that can shoot better. So that's
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  Speaker 4: what I would do with them.
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  Speaker 3: Well, let's uh Gordon Chase and by the way, for
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  Speaker 3: another couple of minutes here on the Sean O'Connell show,
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  Speaker 3: let's shift focus to the Eastern Conference Final, which, of
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  Speaker 3: course game one tomorrow night. Donovan Mitchell playing in his
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  Speaker 3: first conference final series. He's he's helped drag the Cavaliers team.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe maybe he's, you know, the perfect teammate for a
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  Speaker 3: James Harden to actually deliver on what has been an
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  Speaker 3: incredible career.
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  Speaker 1: But the Knicks have been red hot.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, they've also been sitting around for a few days
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  Speaker 3: is that going to help or hurt New York?
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  Speaker 4: It helps New York even though it's sitting around as
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  Speaker 4: far as the rhythm of playing. Oj Nanobi is a
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  Speaker 4: tremendous player. He's out with the injury now he's healed
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  Speaker 4: with the hamstring Strain's so interesting. I keep talking about
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  Speaker 4: Hampstein's strains and these guys are world class athletes with
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  Speaker 4: the best doctor in the world around them also and trainers,
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  Speaker 4: and they're pulling their hamstrings, which shows you about the
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  Speaker 4: effort of what it takes to be successful. Even though
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  Speaker 4: your fine tune machine, it's that showing that quick burst
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  Speaker 4: stop and go where you where you compromise your lower
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  Speaker 4: part of your body, and that I find it's fascinating
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  Speaker 4: that there's so many hamstrings even though the technology is magnificent,
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  Speaker 4: he's healthy, he helps them tremendously. To Nickelbocker's and you're
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  Speaker 4: getting back to Donald Mitchell format Jess performer is that
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  Speaker 4: this is his first time in a nine year Korea,
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  Speaker 4: which you've really been magnificent. He's ever been in the
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  Speaker 4: conference finals. So that's how hard it is shown to
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  Speaker 4: do that. And so Diamond's going back to his hometown
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  Speaker 4: New York area. We went to school as far as
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  Speaker 4: high School, Westchester County, and now he's playing in the
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  Speaker 4: Massaquear Garden. It's going to be one for the ages.
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  Speaker 4: He plays in harmony with James harden Hard. We know
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  Speaker 4: is an absolute tremendous player. He can he can pass
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  Speaker 4: the ball. Tom Ley Shotts defensively is a liability. But
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  Speaker 4: they play in harmony. Least point about that. Let's not
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  Speaker 4: forget that they just got a player from Utah is
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  Speaker 4: playing in the conference finals, Sam Merril.
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  Speaker 1: How about Sam Merril in Game seven, I.
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  Speaker 3: Mean absolutely one of three points, seven to ten from
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  Speaker 3: the field, five of eight from three point, Land hit
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  Speaker 3: all of his free throws, the best bench player in
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  Speaker 3: the game for either team. Just an unbelievable effort from
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  Speaker 3: the former Aggie very much.
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  Speaker 4: And also the form Bonifel High school player. And so
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  Speaker 4: this and also add to that Sean. He was the
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  Speaker 4: sixtieth pick in the draft. We call it the COVID
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  Speaker 4: nineteen Draft of twenty twenty. That's when the draft was
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  Speaker 4: in October. It was such a weird existence for all
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  Speaker 4: of us in society. And the NBA Draft was later
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  Speaker 4: in the fall, and Sam Mellow was the last person
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  Speaker 4: picked at number sixty. Thus, Sean, when you're not in
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  Speaker 4: radio game and during the draft, we'll keep mentioning that
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  Speaker 4: about it. You know, some guys are undrafted. This guy
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  Speaker 4: was picked number sixty. That's fast forwarded last night. He
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  Speaker 4: earned his he earned his key. As far as the
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  Speaker 4: performance he knocked out. The pistons are thirty one point
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  Speaker 4: route and he's a bit factor in that. So Nickerbocker's
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  Speaker 4: they know that thats James Hardson penetrates and Donovan penetrates
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  Speaker 4: in the lane. To kick it out, they've got to
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  Speaker 4: either stay at home and sam Melo type people, or
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  Speaker 4: close out to him and make him a doubt driver.
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  Speaker 4: And these are all things, these little nuances of defense
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  Speaker 4: for who you're guarding. It's absolutely critical to know this
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  Speaker 4: scot the scouting report, and to execute it.
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  Speaker 3: All right, I'm going to ask you to do the
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  Speaker 3: same thing with the Eastern Conference Finals that I did
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  Speaker 3: with the Western Conference Finals.
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  Speaker 1: Game one. What's the key for Cleveland?
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  Speaker 3: I hope people here in Salt Lake are rooting for
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  Speaker 3: Donovan Mitchell to emerge in this series. I don't know
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  Speaker 3: how many people bear any animosity towards him. I'd like
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  Speaker 3: to see himb sixful here. If Cleveland is going to
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  Speaker 3: be successful against New York, what's it gonna take.
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  Speaker 4: They've got to take away. Jalen Bronson is brilliant, So
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  Speaker 4: Donovan Mitchell and James Harden, they've got to dig in.
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  Speaker 4: And how you got Jalen Brunson. He's almost like a
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  Speaker 4: six to two pulse player. I'll call him like a
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  Speaker 4: footwork dancer. He makes three's off the dribble, but his
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  Speaker 4: game is based on he's always in the paint. He's
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  Speaker 4: like a Sean. He's like a guy you and I
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  Speaker 4: went right now, we went up to the y m
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  Speaker 4: c A and you and I were playing pickup games
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  Speaker 4: and was you and I once on the same team,
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  Speaker 4: and we chose a guy to had a uh had
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  Speaker 4: a torn off uh torn off shorts and showing that
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  Speaker 4: said also on uh brighton Beach, Brooklyn on the top
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  Speaker 4: of this Jersey to be on a three on three
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  Speaker 4: team like a pickup game. That's Jalen Brunson as far
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  Speaker 4: as in the lane, old school slow mode. You don't
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  Speaker 4: show what he's doing, but he's really crafty. So Donovan
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  Speaker 4: Mitchell's got to be able to guard him by James
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  Speaker 4: Harden throw his physicality and it's the ultimate Shawan number
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  Speaker 4: one number where you can't be the second jump against
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  Speaker 4: Jalen Brunson, not on perimeter, but in the lane. And
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  Speaker 4: so how you slowed down Jalen Brunson. For the Caps
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  Speaker 4: point of view, the kel Bridges is playing tremendous Josh
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  Speaker 4: Hart rebounding. So Josh hatt is one of the best
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  Speaker 4: rebounders in the NBA for sixty five guy that's rugged,
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  Speaker 4: he's traffic, he's always involved in it, and they've got
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  Speaker 4: to be able to go bang with him inside. And
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  Speaker 4: then at that point, Carl Anthony Towns when the Nikobockers
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  Speaker 4: found that secret success for them the last half of
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  Speaker 4: the season in the playoffs, they played a lot through
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  Speaker 4: call Anthony Towns on perimeter and so they've got to
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  Speaker 4: continue that, which means now Jared Allen's going to be
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  Speaker 4: at to guard him. Also Evan Mobley, they've got to
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  Speaker 4: take away some of his easy catches out on perimeter,
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  Speaker 4: and they've got to be able to challenge him on
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  Speaker 4: a three point line and also get up in his passes.
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  Speaker 4: So we call that body on body, big on big.
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  Speaker 4: The wors you do ever against conty Towns. Just play
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  Speaker 4: switch defense. He's gonna pick you apart. He's a passes
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  Speaker 4: shoot over the top of him, so keep big on big.
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  Speaker 4: He's an inside or outside.
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  Speaker 1: Gordie.
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  Speaker 3: I should have asked you this when we were talking
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  Speaker 3: about Oklahoma City.
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  Speaker 1: But shake Gildas Alexander back.
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  Speaker 3: To back MVPs, and he bought his all of his teammates.
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  Speaker 3: I got little gift packages that included a forty thousand
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  Speaker 3: dollars watch for each person, like a three thousand dollars
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  Speaker 3: trench coat. I don't know why they all want to
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  Speaker 3: look like inspector Gadget, but that's the thing I guess
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  Speaker 3: is this is this normal?
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  Speaker 1: Is this what every MVP does in the NBA? How long?
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  Speaker 1: How long has this been happening?
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  Speaker 4: No, very rarely. It's not really normal. And it's commendable
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  Speaker 4: that he recognizes that his teammates are truly his floormates,
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  Speaker 4: and that's why they're successful. When you're really an MVP
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  Speaker 4: type talent and the leader of your franchise is that
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  Speaker 4: your teammates really happy for your success, and likewise, the
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  Speaker 4: star players happy for the other people's success, and that's
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  Speaker 4: why it works, and that equals chemistry and shoe. And
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  Speaker 4: we've seen it in the NFL a lot of times
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  Speaker 4: where the quarterback gives the old linemen whatever they want
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  Speaker 4: because they know he knows that without them blocking, especially
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  Speaker 4: left tackle, they're gonna take they're gonna take his head
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  Speaker 4: off in the game. So it's often a lot of
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  Speaker 4: times elite quarterbacks give the lineman a lot of besides
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  Speaker 4: besides kudos and praise when it's happening, but off season
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  Speaker 4: Andy Awards, they pay a lot, they give they give
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  Speaker 4: gifts out thanking them for their performance.
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  Speaker 3: To hang in there, Gordie, Uh, I'm gonna ask you
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  Speaker 3: this every day until we figure out where's Gianni's gonna
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  Speaker 3: end up.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, Miami. Possibly, possibly Miami. It makes the most
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  Speaker 4: sense because their borderline playoffs not playoffs, but they can
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  Speaker 4: they can fit them into it as far as make
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  Speaker 4: a few trades. It might be a good, great deal,
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  Speaker 4: but it could be Miami could be. And Pat rally
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  Speaker 4: is if I know, I was eighty years young, and he
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  Speaker 4: said all the time that for the in the in
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  Speaker 4: the Hate franchise, there's no rebuilding. They're going to try
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  Speaker 4: to be the best they can every single year. That
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  Speaker 4: hasn't worked out totally, but there they are competitive Doum,
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  Speaker 4: so it could be I would say it could be
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  Speaker 4: possibly the heat. Now we'll know more of that as
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  Speaker 4: the weeks go on before the draft, and that's when
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  Speaker 4: that the week of the draft, it really heats up
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  Speaker 4: as far as serious discussion about either trading draft trading
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  Speaker 4: draft slots, and trading players with draft slots. So so
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  Speaker 4: we'll know that right now, and then Jazz Basketball, we
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  Speaker 4: know showing that the second pick of the draft, it's
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  Speaker 4: going to be such an interesting thing. It should be
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  Speaker 4: shown either I know you're gonna have the now the
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  Speaker 4: the player by play a man from the NSAS Jayhawks,
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  Speaker 4: So it should be either it really should be Darren
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  Speaker 4: Peterson the sixth, the sixty five two guard that can
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  Speaker 4: really shoot. He's tremendous, or Cameron Boozer, who's a tremendous
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  Speaker 4: talent and we'll learn more about it if it's Boozer
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  Speaker 4: at number two. If the Jazz seriously try to move
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  Speaker 4: on Larry markin in which could happen also before the
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  Speaker 4: draft or maybe during the draft or during free agency
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  Speaker 4: as far as uh he's writ down the contract trying
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  Speaker 4: to move move them as far as of the teams,
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  Speaker 4: we'll say should be interesting.
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  Speaker 1: You think that's the possibility for the Jazz possibility?
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely again, Jean, I'm just saying the dude, the Jazz
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  Speaker 4: do draft booster. Hypothetically, you don't pick the second pick
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  Speaker 4: of the draft and not start him. There's no way
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  Speaker 4: I'm using it just a narrative right now. I'm not
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  Speaker 4: being more speculatives because he's a tremendous player. When I
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  Speaker 4: when I when I studied Cameron Boozer, my notes right
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  Speaker 4: in front of me here. He remind me of really
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  Speaker 4: tremendous players. Plo Paolo ben Caro reminds you of Alpha
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  Speaker 4: on Chragoon of the Rockets. He imagined a younger version
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  Speaker 4: of Kevin Young, of Kevin Kevin Love. Pardon Kevin Love
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  Speaker 4: when he was with the t Rules, when he was
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  Speaker 4: twenty five twenty six years old. You know Bo's is
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: shopping three point rangers year in college, threes thirty nine
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: fifty five percent in the field. I just described younger
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: version of Kevin Love, the way he plays outside and Leslie,
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: he plays like his dad, which is really I had
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: to privilege to coach him, and that's good. Boos that
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: can make play. He's almost like a point center.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Does he rebound like young Kevin Love used to?
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: He average in college rebounds ten point two, But it's
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: like Kevin Love, it's below the rim. It's not really
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: you know, of swooping rebounds. It's more box out fundamentals.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: He can. He's a tremendous player, and so is Darren Peterson.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: They're both different. One is like Ray Allen catch and
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: shoot in your face, Devin Booker type catch and shoot,
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: Rip Hamilton, uh, Stephan Castle as far as his talent level.
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: The other guy is an all around player that makes
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: his teammates better all the time. His boots, his numbers,
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty seven assist, the ninety six turnovers,
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: Are you kidding me? That's tremendous, tremendous. He knows how
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: to play. I give him a lot of credit. So
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: the Jazz can't go wrong. Whoever they take that player
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: should be an all start type talent from the beginning,
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: make the All Star team. Just guestimating which within within
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: three to three to five years, which is which is
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: really great? Hard to do.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: Guardy, I was a frustrated Yes, I'll go ahead.
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: I'm excited for jazz. Sure you want a quick list
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: of the day.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Yes, I was about to get to the list.
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: Here we go, quickly, Uta, you ass the theme today.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: You taught you as career leaders in most playoff games
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: of scoring thirty plus points or more in a game.
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: It's a quick list, so in jazz basketball, and that's
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: the Jazz goal right now, some day to play in
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: the playoffs. Here we go. How many Jazz players have
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: had thirty plus games points in the game with one
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: all time, Ricky Green, Jeff Malone Andamboyan Vondanovitch with two
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: thirty plus games, John Stockton and Jeff Hornisec with three,
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: Gordon Haywood and Farrell Bailey with six, Darren Williams and
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: right on point, Carlos Booza with six thirty plus games
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: with nineteen, Sean right on point Donovan Mitchell with nineteen,
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: and the number one player in jazz history for the
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: most ever thirty point playoff games is Caul Malone with
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: fifty three. Future how about someday a spally, how about
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: some day Keante George? How about some day the second
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: pick of the draft.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Let's go, Gordy.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: I want that, Yeah, no, it could, It could happen.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: But John, think about trying to score thirty points in
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: the game, a playoff game. How hard it is. Everyone's
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: trying to stop you, everyone's trying to be with you, physical,
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: everyone's trying to get into your grill. It's besides talent.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: You need the mental focus and you need that unbelievable yourself.
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: The best way to score in a playoff game is
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: to be to be offensive physicality, put your body on
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: the guy trying to guard you, to get him off
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: strike and go out him instead of him going at you.
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: It's a fascinating dilemma, playing in the playing in the
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: playing in the playoff game. Only second Sean trying to
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: face you in the ring.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Probably a lot harder to score even a single basket
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: in an NBA playoff game. But we'll talk more about
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: the reps.
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: Yes, Sean, I reference you. Everybody us playing a pickup
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: game with you and I in the same team and
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: with some guy with with ragged, regged, regged jeans and
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: wearing a brighton beach T shirt on our team wearing
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: a headband.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Little little white men can't jump.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: That'd be good, Gordy, could could be just appreciate your time, sir,
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Thanks so much for joining us today.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: Thanks Sean, peace out.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: All right, we'll have Gordy again on Wednesday.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: We'll have a couple of games already in the books
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: when that happens. One Western Conference Finals game, that of course,
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: is tonight right here on the station ESPN seven nine, twofm.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: And we'll have another one on Tuesday night. That's the
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: Eastern Conference Finals.