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- 0:31Speaker 1: good morning party people. Hey, how's it going, man, I'm
- 0:36Speaker 1: doing fantastic. How about you?
- 0:39Speaker 2: Oh good, it's early, but I'm waking up. Man. I'm
- 0:41Speaker 2: getting through my pot of tea, so the caffeine's kicking in.
- 0:44Speaker 1: Oh my god. When you're doing the tea, that means
- 0:46Speaker 1: you're reaching for that that little element of hey, I'm
- 0:49Speaker 1: going to go here, because creativity is on the opposite
- 0:51Speaker 1: side of this.
- 0:53Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 0:54Speaker 1: I love the way that you're working your words with
- 0:57Speaker 1: the red weather, in the way that you're part of
- 0:59Speaker 1: the story. I love that because that's the one thing
- 1:01Speaker 1: that I'm learning and doing all my research about podcasting
- 1:05Speaker 1: is that listeners want to feel like they're part of
- 1:07Speaker 1: your life, not not a third party or even a
- 1:10Speaker 1: fourth party storyline that's made out of journalism.
- 1:13Speaker 3: Yes, this is something that I learned the hard way
- 1:17Speaker 3: by starting.
- 1:18Speaker 2: The first podcast I did.
- 1:20Speaker 3: I started in twenty and twelve, I want to say,
- 1:23Speaker 3: doing back in the infancy, okay, And my idea was
- 1:26Speaker 3: to do a book podcast is called Literary Disco, and
- 1:29Speaker 3: it was my friends and I and what we thought
- 1:31Speaker 3: at the time was, well, if we're going to be
- 1:33Speaker 3: talking about books, we should present ourselves as book experts.
- 1:37Speaker 3: We need to show off how smart we are and
- 1:39Speaker 3: how much research we've done.
- 1:41Speaker 2: And the reality is that's.
- 1:42Speaker 3: The worst approach people really want is they want you
- 1:46Speaker 3: to get up there like Joe Rogan or you know,
- 1:49Speaker 3: name your podcaster and say I don't know anything, but
- 1:51Speaker 3: I'm curious about it and I want to look into it,
- 1:54Speaker 3: and that's what people respond to. And it was a
- 1:56Speaker 3: real lesson for me that you took me ten years
- 1:59Speaker 3: to learn that the more you're honest about, like what
- 2:01Speaker 3: you don't know, that's what that's what draws people in.
- 2:04Speaker 1: So then would you say that's part of a glue
- 2:06Speaker 1: when it comes to telling the story of and a Trainer,
- 2:08Speaker 1: because I mean, you had me when it's like seventeen
- 2:10Speaker 1: year old nobody found right away. I'm taking back to
- 2:13Speaker 1: my own personal life in Billings, Montana, when there was
- 2:16Speaker 1: a missing thirteen or fourteen year old girl and they
- 2:19Speaker 1: found her at the lake all of a sudden, I'm going,
- 2:21Speaker 1: oh my god, writer, you're onto something here.
- 2:24Speaker 2: Oh wow, Yeah, no, that's horrible.
- 2:26Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I you know, I just wanted to I
- 2:29Speaker 3: wanted to get back to well first, Yeah, I mean
- 2:32Speaker 3: taking the audience back to my own adolescents and my
- 2:36Speaker 3: own stupidity as an adolescent was always the point.
- 2:40Speaker 2: And you know, I think that works. That works for
- 2:44Speaker 2: me doubly.
- 2:45Speaker 3: Because like, on one hand, it's just like a good
- 2:47Speaker 3: narrative position to take as it draws people in. Also
- 2:50Speaker 3: because people think of me still as a teenager because
- 2:53Speaker 3: they grew up with Boyman's world and so like I
- 2:55Speaker 3: have this sort of like you know, cheat code that
- 2:59Speaker 3: when I say, you know, do you remember when I
- 3:01Speaker 3: was fifteen, everyone kind of does, so, so it was
- 3:06Speaker 3: an easy thing for me to do particularly, But yeah,
- 3:09Speaker 3: I do think that, like, you know, hopefully, I've had
- 3:12Speaker 3: a couple of people say to me like you know,
- 3:13Speaker 3: friends who have listened, or you know, acquaintances who have said, like,
- 3:17Speaker 3: you know, listening to the Red Weather made me go
- 3:19Speaker 3: back and like pull out some of my old diaries
- 3:22Speaker 3: and like my old journals and poems I used to write.
- 3:26Speaker 2: And I love that and I hope that that.
- 3:28Speaker 3: You know, the more you know the old writing lesson
- 3:32Speaker 3: is like the more specific you are, the more universal
- 3:35Speaker 3: it becomes in a weird way. And so I knew that,
- 3:37Speaker 3: like if I went back into my life as specifically
- 3:40Speaker 3: as possible, even with a fake crime, you know, the
- 3:44Speaker 3: actual missing girl is made up, but the rest of
- 3:47Speaker 3: it is very specific to my childhood and real memories
- 3:50Speaker 3: and real friends. And the more I could lean into that,
- 3:53Speaker 3: in a weird way, even though I grew up in
- 3:55Speaker 3: this kind of you know, unique situation of being a
- 3:59Speaker 3: child actor of being in the Redwoods, being surrounded by
- 4:02Speaker 3: sort of communes and this kind of weird scene, it
- 4:05Speaker 3: would actually make it more universal the more I leaned
- 4:08Speaker 3: into the specificity.
- 4:10Speaker 1: But this Isn't it felt all normal? Did it not?
- 4:12Speaker 1: Because that's the one thing that I'm learning about. You know,
- 4:15Speaker 1: we can all stand on the outside and oh, point
- 4:17Speaker 1: our fingers oh oh oh. But then when you're living
- 4:20Speaker 1: in it, it's like, why are you oweing me?
- 4:22Speaker 2: Man?
- 4:22Speaker 1: I mean, this is how we.
- 4:23Speaker 3: Live exactly, and I think that that, you know, the
- 4:27Speaker 3: initial impetus for the red Weather was me.
- 4:31Speaker 2: Suddenly at forty six or forty five.
- 4:34Speaker 3: Whenever I first started doing this, realizing like, wait a minute,
- 4:37Speaker 3: what was going on with like my like my one
- 4:40Speaker 3: buddy who lived I knew his parents had started a
- 4:43Speaker 3: commune and then it had fallen apart, but like I
- 4:45Speaker 3: didn't know the details. We never talked about and we're
- 4:47Speaker 3: still friends, but we never talk about it, you know.
- 4:49Speaker 3: And I was like, I'm just going to sit down
- 4:51Speaker 3: with him for a couple hours and interview him because
- 4:54Speaker 3: I don't know, like what was his parents doing, Like
- 4:56Speaker 3: why why were all these parties there?
- 4:58Speaker 2: And like I knew drugs were in, but like I
- 5:00Speaker 2: just didn't ask. It was just normal, so he didn't didn't.
- 5:03Speaker 3: And then there were kids that I went to, you know,
- 5:05Speaker 3: I went to this really small hippie school out in
- 5:07Speaker 3: the middle of the woods, you know, in part because
- 5:10Speaker 3: I was acting at the time, but a lot of
- 5:12Speaker 3: the kids who were going there were going there because
- 5:14Speaker 3: they were being kept out of public school because they
- 5:17Speaker 3: were in some sort of religious commune situation, and like
- 5:21Speaker 3: I never asked them about that. I just knew that,
- 5:23Speaker 3: Like there were multiple kids who were related in some way,
- 5:27Speaker 3: and you know, in retrospect, it turns out because they
- 5:29Speaker 3: were all fathered by the same guru who was leading
- 5:32Speaker 3: their their family, you know, their their families. They had
- 5:34Speaker 3: different moms, but they all the same dad, and that's
- 5:37Speaker 3: why they were all half Indian. And I was just
- 5:39Speaker 3: trying to figure this out, like why were they related?
- 5:41Speaker 3: And sometimes they referred to each other as cousins and
- 5:43Speaker 3: sometimes as brothers.
- 5:44Speaker 2: Your sisters, and I just didn't know.
- 5:46Speaker 3: So a lot of the red weather was me like
- 5:48Speaker 3: just being like, wait, is that normal?
- 5:51Speaker 2: I need to go back and like ask some people about.
- 5:53Speaker 3: This, and that's you know, yeah. But I agree, man,
- 5:55Speaker 3: like when you're a kid, you're just in it. You
- 5:56Speaker 3: never question it.
- 5:58Speaker 1: I love the idea that that you put in diaries
- 6:00Speaker 1: and journals because to go back there. But my question
- 6:03Speaker 1: is when you went back in there to do the podcast,
- 6:05Speaker 1: to read what you put on the paper, did you
- 6:08Speaker 1: go in there as the actor or as the person
- 6:11Speaker 1: who laid the ink into those veins? Of that tree.
- 6:17Speaker 2: God, that's a good question.
- 6:19Speaker 3: As mostly I would say, mostly as an actor, I
- 6:22Speaker 3: think I was. Yeah, I think I was mostly like,
- 6:24Speaker 3: what's going to be the most effective.
- 6:26Speaker 2: Way to.
- 6:28Speaker 3: Convey this and to make Yeah? Yeah, So I would
- 6:31Speaker 3: say it was more of an acting exercise.
- 6:33Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 6:34Speaker 1: Yeah. But when you're digging up the pass, though, aren't
- 6:36Speaker 1: you in essence saying, Oh, I've got to live this now,
- 6:38Speaker 1: because I mean, I've got thirty two years of daily
- 6:40Speaker 1: writing inside this room, and it's like, if I step
- 6:43Speaker 1: back to nineteen ninety eight right now, I'm going to
- 6:46Speaker 1: carry it with me for the rest of the day.
- 6:47Speaker 1: How the hell did you survive this?
- 6:51Speaker 2: No, man, it was it was.
- 6:53Speaker 3: It was very I would say like once I came up,
- 6:58Speaker 3: I came up with the idea of making it like,
- 7:01Speaker 3: you know, a fictional true crime thing, where I was
- 7:05Speaker 3: I needed to deliver the most exciting story I could.
- 7:09Speaker 2: The material the like the real material then.
- 7:12Speaker 3: Took second place. It was like, Okay, I need I
- 7:15Speaker 3: need to first and foremost. I needed to just make
- 7:18Speaker 3: this an exciting mystery. I need this to have like
- 7:20Speaker 3: a roller coaster ride of like ups and downs, and
- 7:23Speaker 3: so a lot of that was just super fake, super fictional,
- 7:28Speaker 3: and and so it was more about structuring the story
- 7:31Speaker 3: and taking that raw material and finding a way to
- 7:33Speaker 3: contextualize it. So when I would interview people, like talking
- 7:38Speaker 3: to my dad about.
- 7:39Speaker 2: A story, he used to always tell, you.
- 7:41Speaker 3: Know, I'm asking him questions about this story, and I'm
- 7:46Speaker 3: going to apply it to a completely fake situation. So
- 7:50Speaker 3: you know, there was a level of remove there that
- 7:52Speaker 3: was that made it easy. I was more concerned about
- 7:56Speaker 3: how people would feel about once it was all put together.
- 7:58Speaker 2: Like the people that I interviewed, a lot of their
- 8:00Speaker 2: words are taken out of context. You know. I asked my.
- 8:02Speaker 3: Brother about a girl we grew up with, and it's
- 8:05Speaker 3: a real person that I'm asking him about, and he
- 8:07Speaker 3: has a real answer, But then I apply that to
- 8:09Speaker 3: a fictional character, and and so that's.
- 8:13Speaker 2: You know, a real it's a real trip.
- 8:15Speaker 3: For even my friends and family to listen to who
- 8:17Speaker 3: are in it. They've like been calling me being like,
- 8:19Speaker 3: but hold on, but this part was real. And I
- 8:22Speaker 3: love that. I love that even they can't quite parse
- 8:25Speaker 3: it all together, you know, what's what?
- 8:27Speaker 1: Oh my god, Tony Bean, one of my the guitarist
- 8:29Speaker 1: that was in our in our garage band still hates
- 8:31Speaker 1: me to this day because he said that I got
- 8:33Speaker 1: him wrong in my book Halloween seventy eight. I said
- 8:35Speaker 1: it was based on a true story. Tony, It's not
- 8:38Speaker 1: really you. I can't believe you would do this to me.
- 8:41Speaker 1: I mean, did you go.
- 8:42Speaker 2: Through that too? No?
- 8:44Speaker 3: No, most, for the most part of my friends are
- 8:45Speaker 3: like super supportive, and I haven't so far, I haven't heard.
- 8:49Speaker 3: I mean I've heard some grumblings from my town in general,
- 8:54Speaker 3: like people sort of like, what does this say about
- 8:57Speaker 3: our counter? Is this a reflection of you know? But no,
- 9:00Speaker 3: for the most part, like all the people that I
- 9:03Speaker 3: interviewed that I work with to make this are preally
- 9:05Speaker 3: happy with it and and and get it and enjoy
- 9:09Speaker 3: the ride.
- 9:10Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with writer Strong coming
- 9:13Speaker 1: up next the name of his podcast, The Red Weather.
- 9:18Speaker 1: We are back with actor writer or Strong. Well, the
- 9:21Speaker 1: one thing that you do quite well with The Red
- 9:23Speaker 1: Weather is the fact that you do what what We've
- 9:26Speaker 1: always been trained in broadcasting and they might do it
- 9:28Speaker 1: in acting to who, what, where, why, when and how.
- 9:31Speaker 1: If you can't focus on that, you have no story.
- 9:34Speaker 1: And you've got a story here, man, because you're you're
- 9:37Speaker 1: answering every one of those questions.
- 9:40Speaker 2: Yeah, it was.
- 9:41Speaker 3: It was a lot like I don't think I realized
- 9:44Speaker 3: when I first had the idea and knew, you know,
- 9:48Speaker 3: obviously I had a lot of material because it was
- 9:49Speaker 3: based on my own life and my own friends and
- 9:51Speaker 3: all that. But when I started organizing it, I realized
- 9:56Speaker 3: how hard crime writing it is like mystery writing, because
- 10:00Speaker 3: you know, if you're going to point fingers at somebody
- 10:01Speaker 3: and say like, oh, maybe, you know, maybe this person
- 10:04Speaker 3: had something to do with her disappearance, that better be
- 10:07Speaker 3: a fully realized story because if you can't just point fingers,
- 10:10Speaker 3: you have to like make it really plausible. Otherwise the
- 10:13Speaker 3: audience is going to know it's a red hairring, it's fake,
- 10:16Speaker 3: it's not, you know. And so I had to get
- 10:18Speaker 3: my facts very my My fake facts had to be
- 10:21Speaker 3: very good, and they had to line up with my
- 10:24Speaker 3: fact facts very well, like my memories and the actual
- 10:27Speaker 3: things about my town or my life.
- 10:30Speaker 2: So it was a lot of work.
- 10:31Speaker 3: I would say this was This was probably six months
- 10:33Speaker 3: of outlining and eight months of writing, and then only
- 10:37Speaker 3: after that only about a month of recording and then
- 10:41Speaker 3: a lot of time editing, you know, I would say
- 10:44Speaker 3: another three months editing.
- 10:45Speaker 2: So this is a big, you know, a big thing.
- 10:47Speaker 3: But the outlining and the writing was the most complicated
- 10:51Speaker 3: because it is ultimately a mystery. It's ultimately a you know,
- 10:53Speaker 3: kind of like a a crime novel more than even
- 10:57Speaker 3: a true crime podcast. So I had to structure it.
- 10:59Speaker 1: A you know what's going to happen writer. You're going
- 11:02Speaker 1: to be walking along in an everyday world and all
- 11:04Speaker 1: of a sudden, your I because you've done the homework
- 11:07Speaker 1: and you've now lived what it's like to investigate things.
- 11:10Speaker 1: You're going to spot something that a police department didn't,
- 11:13Speaker 1: and they're going to start coming to you because you've
- 11:15Speaker 1: got that keen sense of investigation inside of you. Do
- 11:18Speaker 1: you not feel that when you listen.
- 11:20Speaker 3: To this, No, I'm a horrible detective for Red Weather.
- 11:24Speaker 3: Which is part of the fun, is that like this, Yes, No,
- 11:29Speaker 3: I wanted to. I wanted to, like basically, through the
- 11:31Speaker 3: course of this season, you know, learn how to be
- 11:35Speaker 3: you know, I wanted I definitely wanted to writer the
- 11:38Speaker 3: narrator of this podcast, to be a horrible journalist and
- 11:41Speaker 3: a horrible detective at the beginning.
- 11:43Speaker 2: I think that, you know, because that is the truth.
- 11:45Speaker 3: Like when I was thinking, like what would I do
- 11:48Speaker 3: if I was going to investigate a crime, I was like,
- 11:52Speaker 3: I would want it to be live and I just
- 11:54Speaker 3: walk right into the police station. Well, it turns up
- 11:56Speaker 3: that's the wrong jurisdiction because where my proper it is
- 12:00Speaker 3: this not even in this proper town of Sebastapull, California.
- 12:03Speaker 2: It's in the shape, you know.
- 12:04Speaker 3: So I was like, well, that's great, that's going in
- 12:05Speaker 3: the podcast, like that's going to be seene one. So
- 12:08Speaker 3: like I completely flail, and I think that that's endearing.
- 12:12Speaker 3: I mean to the point we were saying earlier about
- 12:14Speaker 3: like when you admit that you don't know anything, it
- 12:16Speaker 3: actually draws people in. That's that was kind of the
- 12:19Speaker 3: same thing. It was like, I need to be a
- 12:21Speaker 3: bad detective and then you know, hopefully by the end
- 12:23Speaker 3: of the season, I've learned a few things and I've grown.
- 12:26Speaker 3: But yeah, if there's a season two, I'll probably be
- 12:28Speaker 3: a better detective.
- 12:29Speaker 1: Wells as an investigator, that writer and that producer, you
- 12:32Speaker 1: scare the living Bajiebis out of me when Anna is
- 12:35Speaker 1: walking alone, because in my heart, as a father and grandfather,
- 12:38Speaker 1: I'm going what the hell's going on in this story
- 12:41Speaker 1: because I can't stop buying pick a rup. That's what
- 12:43Speaker 1: we did in the seventies. If you saw somebody walking along,
- 12:46Speaker 1: you picked him up and you took them home. You
- 12:48Speaker 1: aren't doing that today, which then causes that shiver while
- 12:51Speaker 1: I'm listening to the red weather.
- 12:53Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, it's a it's a spooky vibe and yeah,
- 12:57Speaker 3: I mean now, I mean the other thing is like
- 13:01Speaker 3: a story like this can only take place pre cell phones.
- 13:05Speaker 2: You know, you can't, you can't.
- 13:07Speaker 3: You can't tell stories like this anymore because everyone's pretty
- 13:10Speaker 3: safe these days, and kids have a way to contact
- 13:13Speaker 3: their parents, even in you know, the most isolated situation.
- 13:16Speaker 3: So I think that, like I'll you know, it's kind
- 13:20Speaker 3: of intentional that I go back to the nineties, because
- 13:22Speaker 3: you can't have a mystery like this without If it
- 13:24Speaker 3: was taking place in the twenty teens, for instance, it
- 13:27Speaker 3: just wouldn't exist. So good for good for today's teenagers
- 13:31Speaker 3: that they're safer and less likely to be murdered or kidnapped,
- 13:36Speaker 3: but way less interesting storytelling wise.
- 13:39Speaker 1: So was l Rick Light a real person, mister Eric Lipsky, No, No,
- 13:45Speaker 1: completely made it really, Oh my god, what a believable
- 13:48Speaker 1: See that just shows your writing skills right there, because
- 13:51Speaker 1: I totally believed in mister Eric Lidsky.
- 13:55Speaker 3: You know, here's the real story is, I wrote, I
- 13:59Speaker 3: wrote about this character.
- 14:00Speaker 2: I created this character.
- 14:01Speaker 3: I wrote several pages of dialogue that was just lectures,
- 14:06Speaker 3: you know, because at one point I find his like
- 14:08Speaker 3: a ten tape lecture series, and so I just wrote
- 14:12Speaker 3: a brief, like, you know, a series of like little
- 14:14Speaker 3: lectures about how his philosophy on trees and psychedelic drugs
- 14:17Speaker 3: and and I. But the whole time I was writing it,
- 14:20Speaker 3: I knew that in I had this actor named Chris Lemke,
- 14:23Speaker 3: who's an amazing actor.
- 14:25Speaker 2: He was he was a child actor in Canada.
- 14:27Speaker 3: Same era as me, and he's never quite made it
- 14:31Speaker 3: as like a huge television star or movie star, but
- 14:33Speaker 3: he is a he is a known actor, and I
- 14:35Speaker 3: just think he's brilliant and he's a very committed I
- 14:38Speaker 3: wouldn't say full method, but he's a very committed actor.
- 14:41Speaker 3: And so I presented him with these pages and this situation,
- 14:44Speaker 3: and I gave him a radio shack microphone from the
- 14:47Speaker 3: nineteen nineties and a tape recorder, and I said, what
- 14:51Speaker 3: do you think about being el Rick. Could you just
- 14:54Speaker 3: take these these and go do some lectures for me
- 14:56Speaker 3: based on these three pages that I wrote, And six
- 14:59Speaker 3: weeks later he turned in four full tapes full of
- 15:03Speaker 3: lectures of him in character. Oh my and yeah, and
- 15:07Speaker 3: so what you actually get in the Red Weather and
- 15:09Speaker 3: the third episode of Red Weather is not anything that
- 15:11Speaker 3: I wrote. It's actually stuff that he improvised that I
- 15:14Speaker 3: then had to listen to and I pulled from to
- 15:17Speaker 3: create the episode. He's a genius and it's just made
- 15:21Speaker 3: it made it made it so much more real. Exactly,
- 15:23Speaker 3: it made it because I am genuinely listening to it
- 15:26Speaker 3: trying to piece together what this guy was all about,
- 15:29Speaker 3: because I didn't know he as an actor, had gone
- 15:31Speaker 3: off and just recorded himself in the desert. He recorded
- 15:33Speaker 3: himself in the woods, and he really did just talk
- 15:36Speaker 3: into the mic, and so it was beautiful as it
- 15:38Speaker 3: was a beautiful like full circle moment.
- 15:40Speaker 2: As a creator, writer, actor like it just made it
- 15:43Speaker 2: so real.
- 15:44Speaker 3: And there's a lot of different actors who came to
- 15:46Speaker 3: me with that kind of approach and made this thing
- 15:48Speaker 3: really elevated in.
- 15:50Speaker 1: You share a quote that really touches me, You being
- 15:53Speaker 1: up there in the in the red forest, and I'm
- 15:55Speaker 1: hearing the Carolinas in a forest that has white pines
- 15:58Speaker 1: and elms and beautiful things that care lot of brings,
- 16:00Speaker 1: and you say something here, then I think is going
- 16:03Speaker 1: to really change me. One human hour is thirty tree hours.
- 16:07Speaker 1: We planted seventeen hundred trees. I'm going to be out
- 16:10Speaker 1: there with seventeen hundred trees talking to them about you
- 16:13Speaker 1: got thirty hours ahead of me, mister tree? What do
- 16:16Speaker 1: I need to learn?
- 16:19Speaker 2: That's so funny that it was weird. I did come up.
- 16:22Speaker 3: I had written when I was writing this philosophy for
- 16:24Speaker 3: l Reck, and I came up with this idea.
- 16:25Speaker 2: Of tree time.
- 16:27Speaker 3: It turns out it is an established thing that people
- 16:30Speaker 3: have written about, have talked about, I know, and I
- 16:32Speaker 3: always just thought about it because, you know, growing up
- 16:34Speaker 3: in the Redwoods, there would be two thousand year old trees,
- 16:38Speaker 3: three thousand year old trees around us, and I remember
- 16:40Speaker 3: at one point thinking, you know, if the oldest species
- 16:46Speaker 3: on Earth has chosen this part of the world to
- 16:49Speaker 3: live in and survive for this long and basically the
- 16:52Speaker 3: greatest threat that redwood trees ever faced were humans, right,
- 16:56Speaker 3: like we're the ones that destroyed what otherwise would have
- 17:00Speaker 3: still be a pristine old growth redwood forest.
- 17:03Speaker 2: I was like, that means that's a pretty good place
- 17:05Speaker 2: to live.
- 17:06Speaker 3: That means like that's a pretty stable in ecologically speaking,
- 17:10Speaker 3: that's probably a pretty good spot to live in the
- 17:12Speaker 3: good soil, good weather.
- 17:14Speaker 2: So that was always my thought.
- 17:16Speaker 3: It's like, the trees kind of have a better idea
- 17:18Speaker 3: of what you know, a longer term sense of reality
- 17:21Speaker 3: and the earth cycles than we humans do. And so yeah,
- 17:24Speaker 3: I wrote that into the thing. And then it turns
- 17:26Speaker 3: out that there have been a lot of philosophy like
- 17:28Speaker 3: philosophical discussions about tree time. Like literally, that phrase is
- 17:32Speaker 3: an existing thing. I didn't even realize.
- 17:34Speaker 1: Oh my god, trees are my life. Trees and rocks, man,
- 17:36Speaker 1: Native Americans will teach you those are the storytellers. Go
- 17:40Speaker 1: sit by a rock and tell me what you're thinking.
- 17:43Speaker 2: Absolutely, man, I couldn't agree more.
- 17:45Speaker 1: Wow, where can people go to find out more about
- 17:48Speaker 1: everything that you're doing?
- 17:48Speaker 2: Right?
- 17:49Speaker 1: First of all, they got to stop by the red
- 17:50Speaker 1: weather because it is quite the experience for the driving
- 17:53Speaker 1: or if they're listening at work or even at home,
- 17:55Speaker 1: because it really pulls this in and as your grandmother
- 17:59Speaker 1: would say it acted ate your imagination.
- 18:02Speaker 2: Yeah no, thank you, man.
- 18:03Speaker 3: That's what I really hope that it like, you know,
- 18:05Speaker 3: it's it's it's like.
- 18:07Speaker 2: A movie in your mind. That's what i'manking for. Yeah,
- 18:10Speaker 2: thanks man. I yeah, no, I you know, I did
- 18:12Speaker 2: everything on location.
- 18:13Speaker 3: There's no studio work. It was all you know, just
- 18:16Speaker 3: running around and really do living it. So I'm glad
- 18:19Speaker 3: that that translates. No.
- 18:20Speaker 2: Otherwise, I'm on Instagram.
- 18:22Speaker 3: That's kind of my big social only social media, forward
- 18:25Speaker 3: front facing version of myself.
- 18:28Speaker 2: I still I'm still doing Podmeats World.
- 18:30Speaker 3: We're watching Bloying the World, so that podcast is ongoing
- 18:34Speaker 3: and we have episodes coming out every week.
- 18:37Speaker 2: But yeah, no, Otherwise, if if.
- 18:39Speaker 3: Anybody listens to Red Weather and wants to hit me
- 18:40Speaker 3: up on Instagram, I'm I really appreciating the feedback right now.
- 18:44Speaker 3: It's a very very personal, very weird story, so.
- 18:47Speaker 2: Getting getting feedback is just it's super heartening.
- 18:50Speaker 1: Well, you got to come back to this show anytime
- 18:52Speaker 1: in the future. The door is always going to be
- 18:54Speaker 1: open for you.
- 18:54Speaker 2: Writer.
- 18:55Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Row, you'd be brilliant today. Okay,
- 18:59Speaker 1: yeah you too, thank.
- 19:00Speaker 4: You, thank you, Yes, sir, just wants to let you
- 19:04Speaker 4: know I always sit by the Lenape rock here in
- 19:07Speaker 4: Manhattan whenever I do their trails, and I sit and
- 19:09Speaker 4: I listen to whatever they have to say, because we
- 19:11Speaker 4: still have some of the leftover caverns of where the
- 19:15Speaker 4: Lennape tribe was when they were here in Manhattan.
- 19:17Speaker 2: Nice.
- 19:18Speaker 1: Oh see, now you've got my attention. Okay, So Righter
- 19:21Speaker 1: and I are coming up there to do a podcast
- 19:23Speaker 1: about those rocks.
- 19:25Speaker 4: Literally in the middle of the Inwood Park, and it
- 19:28Speaker 4: literally says this is here's a landmark of where the
- 19:30Speaker 4: Lenape tribe was. And then if you continue to walk
- 19:33Speaker 4: just a little further in, it'll take you to where
- 19:34Speaker 4: the caves were. But the city Parks Department put rocks
- 19:37Speaker 4: in there, but they it's there and even see still
- 19:40Speaker 4: see the trail of how they went down alongside the formations.
- 19:44Speaker 3: Wow.
- 19:45Speaker 1: I love that stuff. Right, I love that stuff too.
- 19:50Speaker 2: Sad at this past Saturday. I'll probably do it again
- 19:52Speaker 2: this Saturday. That's amazing, dude.
- 19:54Speaker 1: You guys have fun today. Okay,