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Johnn Johnn's ice-cream owner John Koenig on crime, a new CCTV trailer and upcoming public meeting · 360 with Katie Woolf

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  Speaker 1: Now joining me on the line. You may recall last
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  Speaker 1: week I caught up with my next guest last week
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  Speaker 1: as well and spoke about some of those concerns, and
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  Speaker 1: he joins me on the line again this morning. His
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  Speaker 1: name is John Koenig. He's the owner of John John's
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  Speaker 1: ice Cream. Good morning to you, John, Okay, how yeah,
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  Speaker 1: really well, thank you so much for your time now, John,
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  Speaker 1: I know that we were talking yesterday, of course, a
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  Speaker 1: lot about anti social behavior on the show. How have
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  Speaker 1: things been going for you over the last week or
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  Speaker 1: so since we last spoke.
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  Speaker 2: Over the last week, I guess there has been a
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  Speaker 2: bit more police present. The police came down, we didn't
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  Speaker 2: have a meeting on site, and then just their plan
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  Speaker 2: of what they wanted to do for the city. That
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  Speaker 2: meeting happened on Wednesday, and I did request for a
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  Speaker 2: CCTV trailer to be put into the park. That request
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  Speaker 2: was put through Wednesday afternoon and then was granted and
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  Speaker 2: then the trailer went in Thursday. So there was action
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  Speaker 2: taking immediately, which was good to see.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is really good to hear.
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  Speaker 3: John.
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  Speaker 1: How's it going there now that that CCTV trailers there?
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  Speaker 3: Over the last week, I think the severe anti social
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  Speaker 3: behavior has decreased from what I can see, but there's
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  Speaker 3: also been a lot of the police presence as well
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  Speaker 3: going in through the park, larryk here and TPS also
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  Speaker 3: going through as well. But then on Sunday and night
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  Speaker 3: we were closing up and then it was told by
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  Speaker 3: the TPS guards that there was a break in at
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  Speaker 3: one of the cafes and then those youths were sitting
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  Speaker 3: at the front of my shop, so luckily we were closed.
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  Speaker 3: And then yesterday I locked up to work. In the
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  Speaker 3: buildings across the road they had graffiti done all over them,
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  Speaker 3: and then obviously what happened at Woolli's. So even though
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  Speaker 3: it might seem like it's a little bit better, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: just different pockets not so great as well well.
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  Speaker 1: And it's just, you know, it's just one of the
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  Speaker 1: many things that you're having to grapple with, and you'd
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  Speaker 1: gone through, you know, some of the anti social behavior
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  Speaker 1: and different issues that you've had to deal with with
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  Speaker 1: us last week, and I know that you've made a
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  Speaker 1: number of sort of or taken a number of different
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  Speaker 1: steps in an effort to try to make your business
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  Speaker 1: more secure and to try to stop that anti social behavior.
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  Speaker 3: Again.
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  Speaker 1: You and I spoke last week and you'd called for
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  Speaker 1: a few different things to happen. Have you seen much
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  Speaker 1: change since you and I spoke last week? Aside from
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  Speaker 1: that CCTV trailer.
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  Speaker 3: I haven't really spoke. Besides the TV trailer, I haven't
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  Speaker 3: really spoken to I was just waiting for the meeting
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  Speaker 3: to address all those concerns because it was just like otherwise.
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  Speaker 3: I'm still running a business and doing twelve for fifteen
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  Speaker 3: hour days. So I didn't want to get bogged down
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  Speaker 3: in meetings. I thought I have it all said at once,
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  Speaker 3: and then the people can speak as well and just
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  Speaker 3: try to have an approach where government, NGO's police, landlord's,
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  Speaker 3: business owners and in the wider community. It's something that
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  Speaker 3: we all need to work together with.
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  Speaker 1: And so that meeting, that public, that public meeting, it's
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  Speaker 1: happening tonight, isn't it.
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  Speaker 3: That's okay. So it's at five pm at Tameron Park,
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  Speaker 3: which is a part next to John John's. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 3: I think there's Shunk support. There's ministers or their advisors
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  Speaker 3: are coming down. The police are coming down as well,
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  Speaker 3: and counsel.
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  Speaker 1: That is good to hear. Any idea how many you
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  Speaker 1: know how many other business owners or how many other
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  Speaker 1: Territorians you've got turning up at this point.
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  Speaker 3: I am not too sure. Most business owners that I've
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  Speaker 3: spoken to will try to attend, but like as well,
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  Speaker 3: everyone's running a business and I'm not really too sure.
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  Speaker 2: But from what I do.
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  Speaker 3: Though, is friends getting back to me that just from
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  Speaker 3: the conversations that I've had on radio, a lot of
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  Speaker 3: people are talking. And then when people do come and
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  Speaker 3: say hello, they were often or not, they'll tell me
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  Speaker 3: that they have heard the conversation is starting and a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people are set up and sick of it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's interesting. Thing is there's been two customers that have
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  Speaker 3: come to my shop every day at five pm for
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  Speaker 3: the last six weeks, and yesterday I was sitting down
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  Speaker 3: and having a chat with him and they said, in
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  Speaker 3: the six weeks that they've been here every single day there,
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  Speaker 3: it's progressively gotten worse and the just tourists to do
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  Speaker 3: on and if they can see it, and as that
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  Speaker 3: note that was noticeable for them, then it goes to
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  Speaker 3: show something. And then we just happen to be at
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  Speaker 3: the Bullies right before that incident.
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  Speaker 1: So this is the thing, you know, it's scary for people.
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  Speaker 1: It's utterly scary if you were there when that incident unfolded.
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  Speaker 1: But it's also like the kind of behavior that you
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  Speaker 1: just cannot tolerate. If we start to tolerate that behavior,
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  Speaker 1: walk past it, think that it's okay, or see it
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  Speaker 1: as being normal, it is absolutely not normal. But it
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  Speaker 1: is also so entirely frightening for people who are visitors
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  Speaker 1: to the Northern Territory or to Darwin.
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  Speaker 3: One hundred percent. I could not agree with that statement
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  Speaker 3: even more. If tourists are coming through and they're not
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  Speaker 3: used to seeing this sort of thing, then like their
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  Speaker 3: first instance is like what are the government doing? What
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  Speaker 3: is the police doing? And then like you've got to
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  Speaker 3: educate them because they just see such a bad incidents,
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  Speaker 3: and then the referral of what they're going to go
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  Speaker 3: back home and say to the people. But I've got
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  Speaker 3: friends who live and work in the city, and the
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  Speaker 3: people who live in the city don't shop at Willie's
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  Speaker 3: in the city. They'd rather go to than likelist shop.
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  Speaker 3: It's just like, why are you driving twenty minutes out
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  Speaker 3: of the city to do your shopping and then driving home?
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  Speaker 3: It's ridiculous. Well, This is exactly based on safety.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's got to be cleaned up, it's got to
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  Speaker 1: be sorted out.
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  Speaker 3: John.
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  Speaker 1: So with the meeting this afternoon, mate, can anyone come
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  Speaker 1: along or who exactly you know? Who are you hoping
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  Speaker 1: it tends anyone?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, anyone can come down and support because it's
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  Speaker 3: going to be a community why push, And it's at
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  Speaker 3: the I said the other day, it's at the boiling
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  Speaker 3: point and unless something gets done, it's only going to
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  Speaker 3: get worse. And where you really need to get lift
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  Speaker 3: in the button the moment. So the more support the better,
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  Speaker 3: I'd say.
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  Speaker 1: Now, what are you hoping? What outcomes are you hoping
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  Speaker 1: for from this meeting?
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  Speaker 3: Well, the thing that I do want to say, it's
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  Speaker 3: not a meeting to bash anyone, or I shouldn't they
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  Speaker 3: bash is not the right word, is that it's not
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  Speaker 3: too point fingers and took the blame game like that
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  Speaker 3: that's already been done and that's not working. What needs
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  Speaker 3: to happen is the whole community approach to get things
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  Speaker 3: sorted and the things that I'm highlighting is that. But
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  Speaker 3: you know, safety is one thing, but whether or not
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  Speaker 3: extra lighting so people feel safer more patrols is, which
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  Speaker 3: you know they're already working on and just cleaning up
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  Speaker 3: the problem areas. So I do know the park is
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  Speaker 3: one of the problem areas, and that's why I'm holding
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  Speaker 3: that meeting there, and how can we address it? What
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  Speaker 3: are the solutions, what's worked previously and what hasn't worked?
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  Speaker 3: And the CCTV one is a week trial already seems
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  Speaker 3: to be working. But when no one's around, does the
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  Speaker 3: antisocial behavior increase or decrease? I can't tell. I can't say.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a really good idea that this meeting happens,
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  Speaker 1: and your spot on. You know, we've tried every tact
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to this antisocial behavior and nothing seems
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  Speaker 1: to be changing. So I think that it's a really
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  Speaker 1: good thing if everybody gets together and we try our
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  Speaker 1: best to make sure that our voices are heard. So
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  Speaker 1: I would certainly encourage anybody you know who wants to
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  Speaker 1: show their support for our Northern Territory business owners who
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  Speaker 1: are based in the CBD, for wonderful people like yourself,
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  Speaker 1: get down there Tamarin Park, five o'clock this afternoon.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you very much, and I appreciate all the support