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Gordie Chiesa on previews the NBA Finals, Advantage Spurs or Knicks (?), Passing of HOF coach Rick Adelman + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 1: He's out.
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  Speaker 2: Let's get the latest on the Utah Jazz with former
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  Speaker 2: Jazz assistant coach Gordy Chiasa. He's forgotten more about the
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  Speaker 2: NBA than any of us will ever know.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not get crazy.
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  Speaker 2: Come for the hoops talk, stay for his list of
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  Speaker 2: the day My list today. Here's oc with basketball sab
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  Speaker 2: on Gordy Chiaysa on the Sean O'Connell Show.
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  Speaker 1: Gordy, welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 4: How are you, sir, showing I'm doing well? Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: We have an NBA Finals matchup set. Game one will
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  Speaker 3: be tomorrow. You can listen to it right here on
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  Speaker 3: ESPN seven hundred and ninety two FM. New York Knicks
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  Speaker 3: San Antonio Spurs two franchises that well for the next
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  Speaker 3: It's been a long time since they won a title.
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  Speaker 3: For the San Antonio Spurs, good things seem to happen
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  Speaker 3: to them at least once a decade.
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  Speaker 1: But what do you make of the matchup.
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  Speaker 4: Classic masterpiece. Everyone is the static, including the TV partners.
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  Speaker 4: It's two different teams with star players that all play
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  Speaker 4: defense and to be one for the ages. And I
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  Speaker 4: wanted to just illustrate right now how the Knicks were
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  Speaker 4: built and how the Spurs were built, totally opposite, both
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  Speaker 4: highly effective. Quickly, I'm just going to mention the key
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  Speaker 4: players how they acquired by the Knicks and also with
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  Speaker 4: the Spurs. During Nickoboxers free agency, they added Jellen Brunson
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  Speaker 4: og And Andobi Landon Shammitt and former jazz man Jordan
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  Speaker 4: Clarkson via trade Nickobocers they traded for Carl Anthony Town,
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  Speaker 4: Josh Hart, mckuel Bridges, Jose Albarado, Miles McBride, and only
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  Speaker 4: one draft pick and that is Mitchell Robinson, the thirty
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  Speaker 4: sixth pick in twenty eighteen, So the top ten players.
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  Speaker 4: That's how the Knicks were built. The Spurs via draft
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  Speaker 4: Calvin Johnson back in twenty nineteen, the twenty ninth pick
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  Speaker 4: at a draft, Devin Vichelle the eleventh pick at a
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  Speaker 4: draft in twenty twenty which we call the COVID nineteen draft.
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  Speaker 4: Victor Wenbiamber the first pick in twenty twenty three, Stephan
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  Speaker 4: Castle the fourth pick in twenty twenty four, Dylan Harper
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  Speaker 4: the second pick in twenty twenty five, caught O Brien
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  Speaker 4: the fourteenth pick in two twenty five. So they had
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  Speaker 4: six guys drafted by the Spurs quickly trade the Aarons,
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  Speaker 4: Fox and Harrison Bonds and two guys with free agency
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  Speaker 4: Julian Champegni and Lee and the Luke Cornett. So one
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  Speaker 4: guy picked by the Knicks, six guys picked by the
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  Speaker 4: home team, the Spurs.
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  Speaker 3: The Knicks are the NBA equivalent of what we're seeing
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  Speaker 3: the Los Angeles Rams do right now in NFL football.
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  Speaker 3: They're they picked like once in the first round. I
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  Speaker 3: think they've actually picked four times in the first round
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  Speaker 3: in the last like fifteen years, and they're they're acquiring
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  Speaker 3: proven talents instead. So, Gordy, which is a better way
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  Speaker 3: we're gonna We're supposed to find out through this series?
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  Speaker 1: But what do your predictive abilities tell you?
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  Speaker 4: Be a draft with the Spur But again with the Spurs,
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  Speaker 4: though they have once in a generational talent and they
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  Speaker 4: picked their Wembimba, and so I've just find it fascinating
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  Speaker 4: that again you have to build through the draft, which
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  Speaker 4: is long term success. However, if you get the right
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  Speaker 4: guys as far as trades or undervalued guys via trade
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  Speaker 4: or freegency that they add also you draft, that's also
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  Speaker 4: a recipe a blueprint for a long term success. So
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  Speaker 4: there's really no set way. It's about people and how
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  Speaker 4: they play as a unit. And so the spurs to
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  Speaker 4: via draft and jazz basketball. They're trying to tempt to
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  Speaker 4: do it via draft with their top draft picks with
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  Speaker 4: a few guys as far as trading and or free agency.
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  Speaker 4: Now with the with the Nick Obaccas, they went literally
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  Speaker 4: via freegency and trades and it has worked out for them.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so the matchup itself, we've got the youth of
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  Speaker 3: San Antonio.
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  Speaker 1: You just elucidated quite well.
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  Speaker 3: How they built this roster with that youth comes like,
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  Speaker 3: make very little playoff experience. However, here they are in
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  Speaker 3: the NBA Finals, and of course they do have Victor
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  Speaker 3: wibbin Yama for the New York Knicks.
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  Speaker 1: Your coach is more experienced.
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  Speaker 3: You've got players who are a little bit more experienced,
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  Speaker 3: who've kind of been around the league. They've seen it,
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  Speaker 3: they've done it. The Ex's and Oh's matchup. How do
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  Speaker 3: you coach it? How do you get the most out
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  Speaker 3: of each roster given their strengths and their weaknesses.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, well, first, it all south and ends on defense.
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  Speaker 4: It's the most amazing thing shown during a regular season.
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  Speaker 4: It's a love fest three point shooting, offensive basketball. You
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  Speaker 4: get to the postseason, whether it's the NBA or the NFL,
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  Speaker 4: defense usually rules, especially in the fourth quarter, So the
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  Speaker 4: matchup's going to be classic. Also, Sean, I know your
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  Speaker 4: southpoor is that you realize that both point guards starting
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  Speaker 4: point guards on each team is left handed Jalen Brunton
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  Speaker 4: left handed, and so it's they aren't Fox. So we
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  Speaker 4: have two lefty point guards, which meets that showing often
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  Speaker 4: they start the offense to their their dominant side, which
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  Speaker 4: is right the left side of the floor, versus right
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  Speaker 4: handed point guards where they start the offense with their
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  Speaker 4: natural hand to the right side of the floor.
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  Speaker 3: Is there any advantage or disadvantage to that, Gordy, where
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  Speaker 3: you know, like an opposing team in their defensive set
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  Speaker 3: is just a little bit unaccustomed to it, Like I'm
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  Speaker 3: sure they know how to play defense when the offense
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  Speaker 3: starts from that.
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  Speaker 1: If you're playing defense it's off to your right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. What happens though for the catch and shoot players though,
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  Speaker 4: they're coming up their natural shoulder to catching fire. So
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  Speaker 4: that's why it's so that's why it's so important to
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  Speaker 4: understand that so catch and shoot fire. So so someone
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  Speaker 4: like example a Devin vast Cell and Julian Champagny, when
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  Speaker 4: those guys come off screening action, their feet are set
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  Speaker 4: and so it's absolutely critical. And that's why those guys
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  Speaker 4: it's an interesting phenomena that both guys are left handed.
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  Speaker 4: Now the defense they're going to adjust to everything for
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  Speaker 4: the right hand or left tenant. It's irrelevant in that sense.
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  Speaker 4: So the question is, as always, the game is won
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  Speaker 4: by the margins. So here's the first thing I mentioned
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  Speaker 4: to here. Who wins the fifty to fifty loose ball game,
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  Speaker 4: especially in the fourth quarter? What team is going to
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  Speaker 4: be the most aggressive team to go after those loose
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  Speaker 4: balls to gain extra possessions? Second question, which team gets
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  Speaker 4: the more offensive rebounds when the defense showing is so
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  Speaker 4: fierce and physical that most people shoot erratic? Okay, and
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  Speaker 4: so now who can get the most offensive rebounds at
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  Speaker 4: the most opportune time to get an extra possession, and
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  Speaker 4: we call it get a do over. And the more
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  Speaker 4: droops you get in a playoff game, the better it is.
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  Speaker 4: Next question, which team shoots more three throws and what percentage?
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  Speaker 4: So again, that three point shot, even though it looks beautiful,
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  Speaker 4: the teams that are gritty, they get to the foul line.
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  Speaker 4: So Brunson is a natural foul creator. That's the first thing,
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  Speaker 4: and so is Victor Wen Beyond because he creates so
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  Speaker 4: much habit in the lane. So it's so interesting. The
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  Speaker 4: two best lane players in the game are going to
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  Speaker 4: be six ft two Brunson and seventh seven for three
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  Speaker 4: and a half Victor Wen Beyonba. So we've never seen
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  Speaker 4: this forever in basketball where the dominant player in the
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  Speaker 4: lane is six for two, meaning Brunton play of two feet.
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  Speaker 4: It's not causing the town showing Eve that we seven
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  Speaker 4: ft helects to play outside and Rome Rome on perimeter.
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  Speaker 4: Victor Beyonder starts outside, but when it's crunch time, he's
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  Speaker 4: in the lane doing something, whether it's a law pass catch,
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  Speaker 4: impossible to guard. And the next part next quart about
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  Speaker 4: it who can get fourth quarter baskets in the fourth quarter?
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  Speaker 4: And that's what makes it so interesting, what team so, Sean,
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  Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter. Here's the shooting percentage of the
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  Speaker 4: playoffs of these guys in the fourth quarter this twenty
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  Speaker 4: twenty sixth postseason. Jalen Brunson shooting in the fourth quarter
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  Speaker 4: fifty nine point six percent from the field. Bill Harper's
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  Speaker 4: shooting fifty eight point three percent in the fourth quarter,
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  Speaker 4: Calvin Johnson shooting fifty eight point one in the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 4: Victor Wembiyama, where everyone's trying to stop them, is shooting
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  Speaker 4: fifty three point one percent in the fourth quarter, and
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  Speaker 4: the Aaron Fox is shooting fifty percent in the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 4: So there's so many options that team have and that
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  Speaker 4: the team that be able to slow down the natural
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  Speaker 4: scorers are going to win the game. It's going to
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  Speaker 4: be fascinating. It's going to be intense. I just I'm
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  Speaker 4: geeked about it, Sean.
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  Speaker 3: So, is is there a way that New York can
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  Speaker 3: somehow mitigate the Victor win Minyama effect. Do they have
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  Speaker 3: the players, the formation, the skill, the experience with their
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  Speaker 3: coaching staff to not stop Victor win Minyama on the
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  Speaker 3: offensive or defensive, but just to to slow down his effect,
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  Speaker 3: to confuse him when he's on defense to throw the
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  Speaker 3: right bodies at him to make him less of a
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  Speaker 3: factor offensively, or is the cheap code gonna come through
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  Speaker 3: in these finals.
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  Speaker 4: It'll be hard to stop him. I'm saying that they'll
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  Speaker 4: start with They'll start with comfty towns guarding him, but
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  Speaker 4: that will affect his offense. And mister Robinson broke his
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  Speaker 4: pinky finger. They say he's gonna play. I'm sure he's
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  Speaker 4: gonna play. The question is how effective. I'm saying this
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  Speaker 4: sounds almost blasphemy, but the best the best guy that
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  Speaker 4: to God, Victor and Beyonder is og n Andobi at
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  Speaker 4: six foot seven and a half, almost like a much
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  Speaker 4: bigger version of of the Thunder trying to slow down
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  Speaker 4: With Crusoe trying to slow down Victor and Beyondber, don't
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  Speaker 4: be surprised if they cross match, and during the course
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  Speaker 4: of the game you see Nnobi trying to trying to
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  Speaker 4: go body on body to slow down slow down Victor
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  Speaker 4: and beyonda either rim running, but also make them hard
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  Speaker 4: dribble the bomb perimeter. Victor plays outside. He has a
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  Speaker 4: really good, great handle for guys seven to three and
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  Speaker 4: a half. However, now he's being guarded by somebody with
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  Speaker 4: that hand handing on both sides or make it dribble
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  Speaker 4: much more less effective. So they have they have enough
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  Speaker 4: bodies to try to slow them down. I'm saying that
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  Speaker 4: the Spurs might slow down Jail and Brunson with Stephen
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  Speaker 4: Cassel and Devin Vassel getting at getting after Uh, getting
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  Speaker 4: after Brunson in the lane, That's an interesting factor. Next
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  Speaker 4: part of it. Can Brunson's score when Victor and Beyonda
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  Speaker 4: is the health defensive player in the lane? That's the question.
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  Speaker 4: So all that footwork dancing by Jail and Brunson, which
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  Speaker 4: is spectacular, can he get it up and over help
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  Speaker 4: side defense led by Victor when BEYONMBA. There's so many
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  Speaker 4: subplots in this game. It's going to be fascinating And
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  Speaker 4: anybody as a basketball person, we all can't.
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  Speaker 3: Wait a finals game at the mecca at the Garden.
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  Speaker 3: What is that atmosphere going to.
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  Speaker 4: Be like crazy? That's game three besides New York Virgia,
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  Speaker 4: Hollywood Row, there's nothing like it. Again, I know I'm biased.
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  Speaker 4: I'm in New Yorker. I've coached in the Garden many
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  Speaker 4: a time as the college coach. Also with the Utahias,
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  Speaker 4: other teams that I coach. There's nothing like it. It's magical.
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  Speaker 4: It really absolutely is. And you play well in New York,
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  Speaker 4: you're known globally and you know the NBA Finals. I
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  Speaker 4: make this point about this, the NBA Finals, really it is.
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  Speaker 4: It's a global stage for players, owners, coaches, executives, referees,
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  Speaker 4: and broadcasters. It transcends any individual. It's way beyond just
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  Speaker 4: one person. It's everybody involved. There's nothing like it in
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  Speaker 4: jazz basketball. You know, back in ninety seven and ninety
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  Speaker 4: had a long, long time ago. I could priviage the
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  Speaker 4: coach in twelve playoff games. It was magical. A short
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  Speaker 4: speaking of the finals, I just wanted to share with
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  Speaker 4: you something showing about about Memory Lane for you. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: memory Lane so shown in nineteen seventy three. Okay. The
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  Speaker 4: first pic of the draft was Doug Collins. Seventy three.
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  Speaker 4: The price of gas was thirty nine cents a gallon.
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  Speaker 4: People like me wore bell bottoms. In seventy three, the
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  Speaker 4: debut of the home video game Pong was in play.
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  Speaker 4: The iconic film of that year was American Graffiti. The
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  Speaker 4: President of United States was Richard Nixon. In twenty fourteen,
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  Speaker 4: which you remember very well. The first pic of the
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  Speaker 4: draft was Andrew Wiggins. The price of gas in twenty
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  Speaker 4: fourteen was three thousand and thirty six cents a gallon.
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  Speaker 4: The thing about in twenty fourteen was a als ice
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  Speaker 4: bucket Challenge where they raised one hundred and fifteen million
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  Speaker 4: dollars for Worthy cord Sean.
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  Speaker 3: I remember, yes, everyone pouring ice buckets over their own head.
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  Speaker 4: Absolutely. The hit song in ninthe in Excuse Me twenty
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  Speaker 4: fourteen was but for Pharrell Williams Happy. The iconic movie
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  Speaker 4: was Frozen, and the President Ied States was Barack Obama.
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  Speaker 4: So that's how far things change. Nikoboker's won in seventy
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  Speaker 4: three and twenty and fourteen, the Spurs won it, So
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  Speaker 4: it's going to be. It's going to be again a
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  Speaker 4: fascinating thing. And it's all based on defense. Who can
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  Speaker 4: play defense without overly fouling and who can make clutch
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  Speaker 4: plays out of nothing? Usually in playoff games showing especially
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  Speaker 4: in the NBA Finals, I called you score out of chaos.
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  Speaker 4: It's not some beautiful set play. It's like the whole
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  Speaker 4: game is basically set plays. No different in the NFL,
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  Speaker 4: sewn quarterback, and you've got to make place with what
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  Speaker 4: beside your head, with your feet, because the edge rush
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  Speaker 4: is so coming at you that you have no time
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  Speaker 4: to want to just let the play develop. You have
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  Speaker 4: to make place yourself.
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  Speaker 1: Gordie Victor woman y'a.
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  Speaker 3: I'm a twenty two years old could lead a team
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  Speaker 3: to his first NBA championship. And I was looking at
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  Speaker 3: a lot of the all time greats, a lot of
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  Speaker 3: the guys that we say are synonymous with NBA greatness
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  Speaker 3: and success, and only Magic Johnson was the only guy
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  Speaker 3: I could find that was in that age, was younger
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  Speaker 3: than that. Actually, he was not even twenty one years
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  Speaker 3: old when he won his first NBA championship. But you know,
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  Speaker 3: guys like Lebron had to wait a little longer. Michael
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  Speaker 3: Jordan had to wait until his mid to late twenties.
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  Speaker 3: Wilt Chamberlain was like thirty before he did it. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I was looking all these guys up. Larry Bird was
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  Speaker 3: twenty four. If he could be the number one player
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  Speaker 3: on a championship team at age twenty two, what kind
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  Speaker 3: of message does that said about the league and his
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  Speaker 3: future in him?
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  Speaker 4: That it's it's a generational Once in a lifetime phenomenon
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  Speaker 4: and that's Victor when Beyonder. But also he's likable. There
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  Speaker 4: was like everybody showing that I know that knows that
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  Speaker 4: talks about basketball. Even the casual fan will say to me,
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  Speaker 4: they love Victor we and beyonda in other words, where
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  Speaker 4: think about it, showing probably your wife when she watches
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  Speaker 4: the game with you and Victor falls to the ground,
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  Speaker 4: she comes she says, I hope he gets up right
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  Speaker 4: now because I like him too much right And that's
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  Speaker 4: how people think he's likable character Victor we and Beyond
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  Speaker 4: because people cheer for him and that he has a
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  Speaker 4: good personality and he's and also he's almost like a
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  Speaker 4: diverse person. He's that European guy that that loves basketball
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  Speaker 4: but has other interests. You see that, you see the
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  Speaker 4: virable thing where he's playing chess. He's playing chess with
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  Speaker 4: people in New York City. Uh, basically on the in
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  Speaker 4: the in the park. Yes, it's it's heard of refreshing
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  Speaker 4: he's doing.
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  Speaker 3: He went and studied martial arts with the monks and
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  Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff. Yeah, he's a fascinating character.
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  Speaker 3: And Gordy the thing that for me translates so well
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  Speaker 3: and makes I don't want to be like cheering for
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  Speaker 3: the Spurs because they're going to be a problem for
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  Speaker 3: the Utah Jazz for the foreseeable future. But how much
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  Speaker 3: he cares, how much it's he wants to compete, how
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  Speaker 3: much he wants to win in a league that I
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  Speaker 3: know all the guys want to win, I know that
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  Speaker 3: all of them are competitive, but he not only his
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  Speaker 3: physical skill rises above, but it seems like his want
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  Speaker 3: to and his dedication and his passion for the game
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  Speaker 3: are on display.
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  Speaker 4: Every night, very much, absolutely, and that helps his teammates.
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  Speaker 4: When the main guy is engaged and he's team orientated,
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  Speaker 4: everyone else around him now joins the party in a
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  Speaker 4: great way. And that's why that's team building. And you
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  Speaker 4: can never underestimate the power of star player that he's
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  Speaker 4: one of the one of the people, versus what he's
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  Speaker 4: a so example, John, think about this where some people
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  Speaker 4: in sports have their own locker room where they don't
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  Speaker 4: get dress with the other players on their team, and
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  Speaker 4: whether and when teams allow that, whether it's the star
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  Speaker 4: quarterback or Chris Paul used to dress in different locker rooms.
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  Speaker 4: The end of his Korea with the Phoenix suns, and
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  Speaker 4: so you can't allow that. You've got to be with
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  Speaker 4: your teammates in locker room where you're you're everybody's looking
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  Speaker 4: at you, that we're going to do this together as
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  Speaker 4: a as a team. And that's what makes victory MBM
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  Speaker 4: are so unique. And I'm assuming also in fantasy to
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  Speaker 4: the Nicobockers or their guys too. Here you are, you're
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  Speaker 4: in the biggest city in the world, and suddenly you're
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  Speaker 4: you're you're you're thinking about what only your teammates and
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  Speaker 4: they get with the Nicoboxers even more special because there's
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  Speaker 4: three guys in going over Big East type school, whether
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  Speaker 4: there were college teammates and now they're now they're in
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  Speaker 4: the NBA and they try to win a first. They're
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  Speaker 4: trying to add to the legacy of going Over Wildcats.
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  Speaker 4: Those guys win two NCAA championships, can they get one
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  Speaker 4: in the NBA. So it's going to be it's it's
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  Speaker 4: going to be one of the ages this this series.
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  Speaker 4: I'm taking the Spurs definitely in the first game, I'm
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  Speaker 4: taking Spurs in a Hartford seventh seven game battle where
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  Speaker 4: the Spurs that win the championship.
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  Speaker 1: Gordy before we get to your list. How well did
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  Speaker 1: you know Rick Adaman?
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  Speaker 4: Very well? Absolutely showns alluding to Rick Adaman and passed
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  Speaker 4: away yesterday at age seventy nine. I know him very
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  Speaker 4: well is that we talked often over the years. He
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  Speaker 4: was a Jerry Sloan's teammate with the Chicago Bulls back
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  Speaker 4: in and back in the mid seventies. So when we're
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  Speaker 4: in Summer League all the times in Las Vegas, we
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  Speaker 4: all got together and talked to basketball and also in
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  Speaker 4: socialized together. So when he and also when he was
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  Speaker 4: out of work in between jobs, he used to come
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  Speaker 4: to Utah and watch practice. And when I coached the
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  Speaker 4: Seattle Sonics, him and the head coach of the Devin Nuggets,
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  Speaker 4: his son David Alleman, would come to the Sonics practice
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  Speaker 4: and watch us practice and was a student of the game.
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  Speaker 4: So it's unfortunately he passed away. He's in the Hall
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  Speaker 4: of Fame. He won one thousand and forty two games,
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  Speaker 4: which is absolutely hard to do, and he's in heaven
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  Speaker 4: right now looking down on us.
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  Speaker 1: A great coach.
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  Speaker 3: He put certain franchises that are like not the Staples right.
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  Speaker 3: He had a lot of success with Portland. He had
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  Speaker 3: a lot of success with Sacramento some of these places,
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  Speaker 3: and you know that those were fond days for me
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  Speaker 3: as an NBA fan before I was in the business
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  Speaker 3: really where you're just a fan at that point and
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  Speaker 3: you're seeing some of these other teams get a little
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  Speaker 3: bit of shine partly because their coach was so great.
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  Speaker 4: Well, think about the Segramento Kings is that they struggled
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  Speaker 4: for the last twenty five years. However, when he coached
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  Speaker 4: the Kings eight straight years, he went to the playoffs
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  Speaker 4: and they were a factor. And back in two thousand
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  Speaker 4: and two, Sean, let's go conspiracy theory, because I know
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  Speaker 4: you love that Sewan your luck conspiracies. Remember the time
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  Speaker 4: when when ro Pory made that jump shot, that three
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  Speaker 4: points shot for the Lakers and gave them a Game
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  Speaker 4: seven championship, where the controversy was was there a foul
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  Speaker 4: before that they didn't call to help to help the
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  Speaker 4: Lakers versus the kingsdon get the King didn't get the
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  Speaker 4: ball back, And so it just shows you that the
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  Speaker 4: Kings are very very close and in the early two
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  Speaker 4: thousand they were a powerhouse with the Lakers who won
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  Speaker 4: three straight with the cob and his crime and Shack
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  Speaker 4: also is their trusted sidekick.
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  Speaker 1: Cody. What's your list today?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, I'm the list today with the finals the most
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  Speaker 4: Korea NBA final games by a player. So what players
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  Speaker 4: have played the most the final games? I cut it
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  Speaker 4: off only a top twelve at number twelve tied. Derek
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  Speaker 4: Fish and Tom Sanders played in forty three finals game
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  Speaker 4: eleven all time. Elgin Bayala and Casey Jones played in
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  Speaker 4: forty four final games, number ten all time. Michael Cooper
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  Speaker 4: played in forty six finals games, number eight all time, tied.
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  Speaker 4: John Halchek and Frank Ramsey played in forty seven final
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  Speaker 4: games number seven. Magic Johnson played in fifty final games,
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  Speaker 4: number six all time. Tom Heinzen played in fifty two
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  Speaker 4: final games, tied the fourth all time. Jerry West and
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  Speaker 4: Lebron James they played in fifty five final games. Number
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  Speaker 4: three all time. Kareem Abdul Jabbar played in fifty six
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  Speaker 4: final games. Number two all time is Sam Jones, he
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  Speaker 4: played in sixty four final games. In number one player
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  Speaker 4: of all time with the most ever final games as
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  Speaker 4: Bill Russell, he played in seventy final games and in
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  Speaker 4: the finals. In the seventy games he averaged for his
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  Speaker 4: career sixteen point four points per game and twenty four
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  Speaker 4: point five rebounds in the seventy final games. And with
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  Speaker 4: Bill Russell, he won eleven championships in thirteen years quickly.
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  Speaker 4: What about Michael Jordan, He would have played in more,
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  Speaker 4: but he retired at a He retired a younger age,
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  Speaker 4: and Michael Jordan never played ever in a game seven
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  Speaker 4: ever at a game seven. Michael Jordan played in thirty
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  Speaker 4: five final game appearances. Kobe Bryant played in thirty seven,
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  Speaker 4: and Steph Curry and Tim Duncan they played in thirty four.
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  Speaker 4: So Michael played in thirty five and let's say all
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  Speaker 4: thirty five. He was very impactful. Yes, that's my list
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  Speaker 4: of today.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an understatement. Pretty impactful player. You're the man.
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  Speaker 3: Enjoy game one and obviously we'll chat on Thursday in
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  Speaker 3: a recap for that.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks showing peace out, stay well.
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  Speaker 3: Gorde jaysa our resident NBA insider, a Guru and Yoda