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Working While Pregnant · Whatever It Takes with Carli Lloyd and Jenny Taft

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  Speaker 1: Like at what point, how many weeks in did you
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  Speaker 1: did you announce? I have no idea, but I was
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  Speaker 1: very pregnant. I had been pregnant and telling everyone.
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  Speaker 2: OK.
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  Speaker 1: But it became a joke during the football season that
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  Speaker 1: Gus and I love him. We're very close. But it
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  Speaker 1: became kind of Gus's announcement. So every game it was.
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  Speaker 2: Like, well, Jenny, be ready. It might be today.
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  Speaker 1: So I had known he was He had wanted to
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  Speaker 1: do this. And it kind of became a funny shtick
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  Speaker 1: where I was like, whenever, if it fits ever, it fits.
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  Speaker 1: But I'm like, please don't announce this pregnancy during Michigan-Ohio State.
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  Speaker 1: And we're like, it's the fourth quarter. We got a
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  Speaker 1: tight game. And by the way, Jenny's having a baby.
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  Speaker 1: And then the Big Ten Championship game was the week after.
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  Speaker 1: And Gus made his big announcement. And I did a
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  Speaker 1: big reveal. There was a camera zoom.
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  Speaker 2: It was a lot. Live on TV. But it was
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  Speaker 2: really sweet. Hey, everyone. Welcome back to Whatever It Takes.
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  Speaker 2: I'm your host, Carly Lloyd, joined by my friend and co-host,
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  Speaker 2: Jenny Taft. Today, we're talking about our pregnancy journeys and
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  Speaker 2: all of the things that come with that. So let's
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  Speaker 2: jump right into it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Carly Lloyd, the hardest working podcaster around, because right
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  Speaker 1: now we are days away, days away from another baby.
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  Speaker 1: So you got to give me the latest, how you're feeling.
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  Speaker 1: And I know you just wrote a doctor appointment, so...
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  Speaker 1: Still no baby. We're podcasting right now.
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  Speaker 2: Still no baby. Baby is looking great. I finished up
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  Speaker 2: a NST, right? The NST test. Yeah, they monitor. Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Baby was a little frustrating today. You know, they couldn't
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  Speaker 1: get a good read. I forgot about that.
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  Speaker 2: Are you going every week? Every week. Yeah, it's a
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  Speaker 2: bit much. But I understand the fragility of, you know,
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  Speaker 2: women wanting to go and I guess they say when
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  Speaker 2: you're a certain, over a certain age, you know, they
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  Speaker 2: monitor you a little bit more. So baby's feeling very low.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know when this episode is going to go live,
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  Speaker 2: but yes, we are, we are days away. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: the 17th is my due date and I just, you know,
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  Speaker 2: got my hair done today and I want to get
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  Speaker 2: my nails done. I got a few more things to
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  Speaker 2: wrap up. But here we are. I'm doing whatever it
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  Speaker 2: takes to just grind these episodes out. Whatever it takes.
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  Speaker 2: I told Carly, we were texting yesterday.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't need to be like the one
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  Speaker 1: through five person that you're texting, but I'm like, maybe
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  Speaker 1: like in the 20. Like if we're going in, if
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  Speaker 1: we're going to the hospital, I just want to like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going in.
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  Speaker 2: Like I'm on the list, which is cool. I'm on
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  Speaker 2: the list.
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  Speaker 1: You're in the top five. I I mean, we've got
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  Speaker 1: another guest lined up next week that we potentially have
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  Speaker 1: to record.
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  Speaker 2: TBD. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I truly, every time you text me now, though, I
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  Speaker 1: think you're going into labor. So yesterday when you texted
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  Speaker 1: me a voicemail, I'm like, it's happening. We are going
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  Speaker 1: to stop recording for a while now. The odd thing is,
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  Speaker 1: is my water broke with Harper at first. And so
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  Speaker 1: when I went in, I wasn't dilated.
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  Speaker 2: So that kind of set me up for a very
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  Speaker 2: long and lengthy process in labor. But this, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I've heard the second comes a bit quicker and it's
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  Speaker 2: a little bit easier. We'll see. Yeah. But I'm kind
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  Speaker 2: of like, yeah, when is this going to come in
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  Speaker 2: the middle of the night, in the morning? And then
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, I got to hopefully my parents answer their
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  Speaker 2: phone because they're going to be on call with Harper. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to be ready. Whatever happens.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm so excited. Well, you can text me at
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  Speaker 1: all hours. I'm available to offer emotional support.
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  Speaker 2: Much appreciated.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously, with this podcast, Whatever It Takes, I think
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  Speaker 1: what something that drew us together to wanting to do
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  Speaker 1: this together was, of course, talking.
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  Speaker 2: About life outside of soccer, outside of our careers.
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  Speaker 1: And having kids and pregnancy was just top of mind
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  Speaker 1: because it has been different for both of us. It
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  Speaker 1: has been challenging at times. It has been rewarding in
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  Speaker 1: every single way. So I think for this podcast, what
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  Speaker 1: would be fun, Carly, is if we just kind of
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  Speaker 1: talk about the stages for us of becoming moms, the
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  Speaker 1: thought of it, the want of it, your decision to
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  Speaker 1: wait till after you were done playing, I think is
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  Speaker 1: really fascinating and being open about it and that we
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  Speaker 1: can get into being pregnant and.
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  Speaker 2: The craziness after. So it just.
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  Speaker 1: Do you remember when you decided, and maybe it changed
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  Speaker 1: while playing, I'm going to wait until I'm done to
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  Speaker 1: make that choice because I'm so impressed by the athletes
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  Speaker 1: that have babies and then come back and play. And
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  Speaker 1: then for me, it felt like there was never a
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  Speaker 1: perfect time, but you just kind of figure it out.
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  Speaker 1: So what was kind of the mindset for you in
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  Speaker 1: that decision?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of interesting because... I think when you
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  Speaker 2: go through life, it's those stages of, you know, you
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  Speaker 2: go to school and you go to high school. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, my case, it was figuring out where I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to go to college and play collegiate soccer and
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  Speaker 2: then have dreams and aspirations of playing on the national team.
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  Speaker 2: And then you think about marriage and then it's like
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  Speaker 2: eventually you think about starting a family. So it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: always top of mind for me, but I always felt like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I want to have kids, I think, and, you know,
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  Speaker 2: all of that. But my career was my main focus
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  Speaker 2: for a good portion of my life. And when I
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  Speaker 2: first got on the national team in 2005, Christy Pierce
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  Speaker 2: Rampone was a part of the team. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I got to watch her be a mom to her
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  Speaker 2: two girls and Kate Markriff, who also had a son
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  Speaker 2: at the time, I believe.
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  Speaker 1: And, you know, eventually she evolved to having a few
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  Speaker 1: more kids as well. And there were so many other
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  Speaker 1: moms that I played with. And I mean, I just
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  Speaker 1: couldn't imagine.
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  Speaker 2: I saw the challenges of what they went through, the
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  Speaker 2: time change. You know, back then we were flying, you know,
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  Speaker 2: coach to China and there wasn't, well, they had been
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  Speaker 2: just starting to figure out the collective bargaining agreement in 2005. 2006,
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  Speaker 2: was the first time that contractually they had health benefits
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  Speaker 2: for the team, pregnancy leave, and guaranteed contracts. So I
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  Speaker 2: kind of came into all of that because there was
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  Speaker 2: no protection and there was nothing prior to that. And, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I... I wanted to be the best soccer
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  Speaker 2: player in the world. That was my ultimate individual goal.
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  Speaker 2: And I set out on that destination not knowing if
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  Speaker 2: I'd ever reach it. I wanted to help my team
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  Speaker 2: win championships. And the thought of starting family was just
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  Speaker 2: always in the back of my mind at the end
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  Speaker 2: of my career when I was completely done. And I
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  Speaker 2: think as women, and that's why I'm kind of excited
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  Speaker 2: to talk about this topic is You know, I just
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  Speaker 2: wasn't educated. I don't know if you were educated of
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  Speaker 2: just our bodies, our clock. We're born with a certain
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  Speaker 2: amount of eggs. And as you get older, those eggs age.
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  Speaker 2: And there's all these things that you're just really naive to.
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  Speaker 2: And I guess I was naive. And once I finished
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  Speaker 2: playing in 2021... I was 39 years old. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: you know, my body's never failed me on the soccer fields.
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  Speaker 2: I'm healthy. I'm active. This shouldn't be a problem. And then,
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  Speaker 2: you know, time goes by and months go by and
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  Speaker 2: years go by and, you know, you're not getting any results.
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  Speaker 2: And so I think coming to the realization that I
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  Speaker 2: may need some help may need some science, um, was a,
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  Speaker 2: it was a really tough thing to do because you
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  Speaker 2: just feel like you're failing, you know, yourself, your, your
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  Speaker 2: body's failing you. Um, and I just didn't know. And
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  Speaker 2: so I finally started to, you know, go see some
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  Speaker 2: doctors and figure out what was needed. Um, ended up
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  Speaker 2: going the IVF route, which is such a long, long,
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  Speaker 2: tough journey. Um, You know, one in which, again, had
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  Speaker 2: no idea what to expect. And there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: women that have gone through it as well. Erin Andrews
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  Speaker 2: has been very open about it. Tara Lipinski. And so,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I took a lot from them and they helped.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I listened to podcasts and listened to other people.
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  Speaker 2: But for me, it was mostly I didn't feel like
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  Speaker 2: I could be the best at both things. if I
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  Speaker 2: had a kid while I was playing. And, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to be fully present when I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: start a family and I have been. But yeah, it's hard.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think every women goes through some sort
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  Speaker 2: of challenge. You have women who want to reach the
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  Speaker 2: top and they're company and maybe put off having kids.
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  Speaker 2: So it's a really tough decision to make, one in
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  Speaker 2: which men don't have to make because they can kind
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  Speaker 2: of just support their wives and go do their thing.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, that was kind of the biggest reason for
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  Speaker 2: me is I just felt like I couldn't, selfishly, I
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  Speaker 2: couldn't be the best at both. And that's why I
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  Speaker 2: chose that. I mean, I don't know your journey, if
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  Speaker 2: you I mean, especially with what you do in the
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  Speaker 2: broadcasting and sideline reporting. I mean, you've got to be active.
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  Speaker 2: You've got to be running after coaches and players and
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  Speaker 2: getting interviews. And also the thought of, you know, someone
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  Speaker 2: coming in and maybe filling your spot and then you
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  Speaker 2: losing your spot. You know, that was always a worry
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  Speaker 2: for me as well, out of sight, out of mind.
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  Speaker 2: So I, you know, how did you navigate kind of
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  Speaker 2: your initial thoughts on starting a family?
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  Speaker 1: It's, well, one, it's, I so appreciate how open you
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  Speaker 1: are about it because I remember, I still remember you
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  Speaker 1: and I talking about this in New York City, before
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  Speaker 1: Harper and sharing that IVF had been hard and it
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  Speaker 1: hadn't worked yet. And, you know, I have such an
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  Speaker 1: interesting perspective. There's so many areas. And I admit, you
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  Speaker 1: saying just now that you were 39 when it wasn't happening,
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  Speaker 1: I just turned 39. And I actually, it was kind
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  Speaker 1: of an emotional birthday for me because I don't, I
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  Speaker 1: would like to have another kid and I haven't yet.
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  Speaker 1: And it's so nice to hear that even Like, 39
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  Speaker 1: isn't old. But for whatever reason, it hasn't happened for
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  Speaker 1: me the second time.
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  Speaker 2: Gigi's great.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there were so much that went into planning that.
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  Speaker 1: And I almost regret because you think about the planning
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  Speaker 1: and you can't plan it.
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  Speaker 2: Like, no.
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  Speaker 1: I believe God's plan. Like, I'm going to have another kid.
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  Speaker 1: I truly believe that. And I'm, you know, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to get there. But I did not expect that I
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  Speaker 1: would be a little sad on my birthday. And that
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  Speaker 1: hit me kind of hard this year. And I can't
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  Speaker 1: believe I'm getting emotional.
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  Speaker 2: I'm crying in the closet. Oh, boy.
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  Speaker 1: But hearing you say 39 just out of me, like,
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  Speaker 1: I just needed to hear that because in my head,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I thought I'd be pregnant by now again.
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  Speaker 2: And I haven't been.
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  Speaker 1: And that's OK. It's going to happen. So we're making
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  Speaker 1: those plans. And Gigi's an amazing blessing.
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  Speaker 2: And there will be another.
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  Speaker 1: But I think back on, you know, when I was
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  Speaker 1: thinking about having a kid and I actually I'm not
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  Speaker 1: sure if I'd shared this story with you, but I
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  Speaker 1: did have an audition for a different network and I
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  Speaker 1: didn't get it. And I would never have tried to
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  Speaker 1: have a kid then because I was similar to you.
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  Speaker 1: Like if you get pregnant and they have a fill
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  Speaker 1: in for you and then what if you're replaced and
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  Speaker 1: you don't want to give them an idea that someone
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  Speaker 1: else could be better?
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  Speaker 2: I definitely had.
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  Speaker 1: That in my mind, although that's unfair because if you're talented,
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  Speaker 1: you should be talented. And that continues. I didn't get
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  Speaker 1: this job. And I kind of thought I need to
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  Speaker 1: just try because you never know. And I got pregnant immediately.
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  Speaker 1: So that was really cool to think that I didn't
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  Speaker 1: get this job for a reason. And I'm also the timing.
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  Speaker 1: There's never good timing, right?
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  Speaker 2: Like never. I feel like you can't plan for it. No,
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  Speaker 2: you can't. It's like it's going to complicate life.
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  Speaker 1: Like I love how you're like, yeah, I got to
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  Speaker 1: get the crib ready and we got a second and
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  Speaker 1: we'll figure it out.
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  Speaker 2: But I just.
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  Speaker 1: I overthought it for sure in a competitive way because,
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  Speaker 1: like you, I did want to be the best at
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  Speaker 1: what I was doing. And also, I never have been
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  Speaker 1: someone to say no to work, which is a bit
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  Speaker 1: of a fault. It's a positive and a fault. But
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  Speaker 1: you and I really care about what we're doing and
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  Speaker 1: like what we're doing. And I, this sounds so, this
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  Speaker 1: sounds so Well, you tell me the word. But I
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  Speaker 1: was like, I don't want to be on TV and
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  Speaker 1: have a hard time losing the baby weight. Like, it
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  Speaker 1: sounds so crazy. I had that thought.
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  Speaker 2: It's the visual. It's the complex. And then it's even like,
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  Speaker 2: what is the network going to think? You know, are
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  Speaker 2: they going to be, like, happy with how we look
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  Speaker 2: on air? I mean, that's definitely crossed my mind.
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  Speaker 1: No, it is.
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  Speaker 2: Crossed my mind. It is.
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  Speaker 1: And, you know, I think the hard part about the in-between,
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  Speaker 1: since we're thinking about the stages of it, I've had
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  Speaker 1: some miscarriages and I've had to go to work. And
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  Speaker 1: it's like a silent sadness that you're not really talking about.
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  Speaker 1: I have an amazing group of men I work with.
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  Speaker 1: I work with a lot more men than women, a
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  Speaker 1: lot more women now. But some of my closest friends
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  Speaker 1: are men that are producers, directors. And like you don't
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  Speaker 1: I don't tell them everything, but there's like a silent
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  Speaker 1: struggle to that, which so many women go through. So
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  Speaker 1: I think that like. in between when you want to
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  Speaker 1: be pregnant and you're not, or you've had a loss,
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  Speaker 1: that's the hardest part for me. Like getting to be
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  Speaker 1: pregnant and be able to talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait.
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  Speaker 1: That's clearly not today, but when that's the case, I
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  Speaker 1: will be telling you. Well, I'm sorry you felt sad
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  Speaker 1: on your birthday. Oh, I truly believe that everything happens
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  Speaker 1: for a reason. I mean, I, what, like three years ago,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even know if I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: be able to get pregnant. you know, and to have
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  Speaker 1: that thought was just, it consumed my life daily, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and having Brian there to just say, just trust the process.
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  Speaker 1: Everything's going to work out the way that it's supposed
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  Speaker 1: to work out.
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  Speaker 2: And, you know, here we are with like a baby
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  Speaker 2: just about to be born, our second one. And so
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  Speaker 2: don't lose the faith and hang in there. Yeah, no,
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate you saying that.
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  Speaker 1: I do so remember like the parts where it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: easy for you and now seeing this like amazing family
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  Speaker 1: that you have.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all going to work out. And I wasn't like,
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  Speaker 2: I think the journey of going through IVF allowed me
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  Speaker 2: to be more vulnerable. I mean, I, you know, was
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  Speaker 2: a machine and a robot throughout my career and, you know,
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  Speaker 2: acted like I didn't need help or I didn't need,
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  Speaker 2: you know, an arm around me. And, like, I needed
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  Speaker 2: people throughout this journey. I needed Brian. I needed my
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  Speaker 2: family and friends and people that understood. I had a
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  Speaker 2: good friend that used to work within U.S. Soccer, one
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  Speaker 2: of the staff, who just really, really helped me through
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  Speaker 2: the journey. And, yeah, it was kind of— it was different because— Again,
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  Speaker 2: I never really let my guard down throughout my career.
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  Speaker 2: I never really showed any sign of weakness and vulnerability.
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  Speaker 2: And this just totally shed every layer that I ever had.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, when I was going through the retrievals, we
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  Speaker 2: were at the Capitol in D.C. and I was with,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I was with Fox and I was with
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  Speaker 2: Lexi and Rob and, you know, a bunch of other people.
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  Speaker 2: And I get the call that, you know, our embryos
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  Speaker 2: came back abnormal, you know, and I'm having to step
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  Speaker 2: off to the side and take that call and then
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  Speaker 2: wipe my tears away and figure out our plan of
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  Speaker 2: what we're going to do next.
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  Speaker 1: Am I going to go through a retrieval again? And yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so it's just, it's a lonely, dark, dark place. And
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  Speaker 1: then I obviously took a break during the Women's World
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  Speaker 1: Cup in 2023 and Leslie Osborne, Heather O'Reilly and Stu Holden, we.
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  Speaker 2: Would go for runs and yeah, I just kind of
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  Speaker 2: opened up to them and just said, this is what
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  Speaker 2: I've been going through and it's so hard. And it
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  Speaker 2: was good to have people there that, you know, were supportive.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a lot of women in the same boat
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  Speaker 2: and everybody has, you know, really tough journey. So it's
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  Speaker 2: an important topic that I think is definitely great to share, especially,
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  Speaker 2: you know, someone like us that we're both successful. We're
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  Speaker 2: confident women. We're strong. But this can break you as well. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And there's no reason why we shouldn't be open about it.
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  Speaker 1: I think there's that misconception. I love hearing that you
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  Speaker 1: opened up to Stu and Leslie and, you know, it's okay.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: It's great to talk about it. Why wouldn't we chat
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: about this, right? Like this is something that so many
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: people go through and deal with, but I mean, hey,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: you're the example, Carly. You're in it.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: We're days away. Oh, we're days away. Maybe we take
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: a little break and kind of come back to just
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: navigating the life of pregnancy and work, which is crazy
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: in itself. Welcome back to.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: Whatever It Takes with Carly Lloyd and Jenny Taft. Today
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: is all about babies, pregnancy, the before, the during, the after.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: And I guess this is, we could chat for hours
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: at this point about this. But we discussed kind of
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: the pre, the getting pregnant, the ups and downs that
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: come with that. And then how about the being pregnant part?
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Because I know for me, when I was finally able
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: to kind of announce that I was pregnant, and it's
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: funny that I have Gus Johnson, actually a part of
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: our college football crew, announced it for me during the
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Big Ten Championship game.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Wait, so were you nervous? Like at what point, how
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: many weeks in did you announce?
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: I have no idea, but I was very pregnant. I
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: had been pregnant and telling everyone.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: But it became a joke during the football season that Gus,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: and I love him, we're very close, but it became
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: kind of Gus's announcement.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: So every game, it was like, well, Jenny, be ready.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: It might be today.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: So I had known he was He had wanted to
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: do this. And it kind of became a funny shtick
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: where I was like, whenever, if it fits ever, it fits.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: But I'm like, please don't announce this pregnancy during Michigan-Ohio State.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: And we're like, it's the fourth quarter. We got a
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: tight game. And by the way, Jenny's having a baby.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: So he didn't do that. So I actually thought the
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: moment had passed and the Big Ten Championship game, or
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: we had had Michigan-Ohio State, crazy game. I'd been pregnant
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: after Michigan won. They stormed the field. Security guards were
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: protecting me like crazy. And then the Big Ten Championship
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: game was the week after and Gus made his big
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: announcement and I did a big reveal.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: There was a camera zoom. It was a lot. Live
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: on TV. But it was really sweet.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: And Gus, or Gigi had her, well one, Gigi's, you know,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: got a call from Gus Johnson already, which is pretty fun.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: That's pretty cool.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: And that was cool to just have that video. I'm
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: going to have to look back and send it to you.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: But how about you?
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: When you finally, Carly, were able to be pregnant and
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: excited and telling people, what was that like for you?
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: Well, so the IVF route is like, I just feel
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: like you're walking a fine line of, you know, it's
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: like in life, you want to be.
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: Super positive about things. You know, you want to be
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: negative Nancy and, you know, you want to think positively.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: But with IVF, it's a weird line to walk because
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: you don't want to get too high, but you don't
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: want to get too low either.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: So We had the embryo transfer. I had an embryo
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: transfer first. It didn't work. And then after World Cup,
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: came back, did another retrieval, had another embryo transfer. We
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: decided to go ahead with it. And then the big
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: thing is waiting nine days. That's when you can kind
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: of first get your blood work to see. And so
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: I was at waste management golf tournament, the PGA golf tournament.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: So I was playing in the pro-am. And I could either,
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: because of our length of stay, I wasn't going to
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: get back to my doctor's office until, I don't know,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: maybe day 11 or so. So they gave me a
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: script to go to a LabCorp nearby if I wanted to.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: And so Brian and I hopped in an Uber and
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: we went. And I remember asking the lady who was
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: drawing my blood, you know, how long will it take
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: to get the results? Because it was on a Friday. Yeah.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: And she's like, oh, usually, you know, it's Friday, most
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: likely Monday. And I'm like, okay, like I'll, I was
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: going to be home on a Tuesday.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: It wasn't that big of a, yeah. It was like
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: a day difference, but it was just that anticipation. And
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: so I actually got the results through my portal first
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: before my doctor's office could call me to tell me
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: the news. And I had it, send it to my
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: friend because I'm like, what does this number mean? I
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: did that too. It was a beta number. And I'm like,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: and she's like, Carly, you're pregnant. And I'm like, so
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: it was, and it was really early in the morning.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: We were in Arizona. So the time changed. We, you know,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: we're getting up a little bit early and I, I
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: kind of, you know, tap Brian because he was still sleeping.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: And I told him the news and it was like, you, you,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: you longed for it. You wanted to be super excited,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: but then you're like, okay, we still have a long
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: ways to go because anything can happen and your numbers
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: have to, you know, double and every certain days and
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: you have to keep going back for blood work. So
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: it was like, we, we got really excited in that
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: particular moment and, you know, hugged and, and then it
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: was kind of like, okay, let's just, you know, not
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: get overly, overly excited. But I did tell my family
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: and a few close friends and, And then, yeah, you
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: just kind of, again, going back for blood work. Eventually,
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: you go and you get to hear the heartbeat for
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: the first time. Now, this is, we're talking five, six weeks.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Usually, I'm sure you went to your doctors for the
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: first time.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: I think I was around seven, eight weeks. I remember I, like,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: lied a bit because I had to be on the
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: road for college football, or No, it wouldn't have been
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: college football.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Was it soccer? I don't know. I lied.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I thought I was eight weeks, but I was really
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: like seven. And they say you can't come in till eight.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: But I was like, I need to know if there's
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: a heartbeat. Yeah. And so I did. I did get in.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: And that was I mean, of course, that was an
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: amazing feeling. And I didn't have not to interrupt you,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: but it was such a different experience now having had
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: a harder time getting pregnant the second time around, because
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: the first time was so easy. And you're kind of like, okay, like,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: who knows?
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: This is great. And there's just no fear.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: So I had just zero thought of any thing negative,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: I guess, which is, I think, a good way to be.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: But it's like you say, you want to celebrate the positive,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: but there's a lot of that unknown in the in-between.
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: So it's still early. I know. It's hard.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: And so many women go through so many different things.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: But week by week, I was just kind of taking
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: it week by week. And at 10 weeks, you know,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: and I'm still doing the progesterone shots in my butt
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: and all these things. So at 10 weeks, I graduated
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: from my doctor's office, the fertility clinic, and then went
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: to my OB. And there was still that, you know,
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: there was still that worry. I wasn't, I wasn't maybe
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: like some other women that, you know, wanted to go
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: like every week.
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: And I think we were going pretty much like once
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: a month. But it was like every doctor's appointment, you
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: kind of held your breath and just wanted to make
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: sure that there was a heartbeat each time you went.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: So it's hard. It's like you get super excited that
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: it worked, but then it's hard to sort of be
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: excited in the moment. But as time went on, we
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: obviously started to get more and more excited. And after
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: the anatomy scan and everything was looking good. And yeah,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: I think I I think I announced publicly because I
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: did my article on, uh, women's health. So for those
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: that didn't read that article, you can, you know, Google
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: that article. Um, but I basically wrote about my journey
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: and I think it was 15 weeks and I was just,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: I was like really nervous. I ended up wanting to
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: get an ultrasound before just to double check and, um,
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: because it's, yeah, it's, it's just such a, it's such
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: a nerve wracking thing. But, um, Second time around, it's been,
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: you know, a bit different, which has been fine. That's good.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: Well, and it's vulnerable at the end of the day. Yeah.
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: Even though it's amazing you shared your story, it still
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's easy to have that conversation. It's still,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: you're still telling the world, which is... And I was embarrassed,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: you know, like I remember going to the... Yeah, I
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: remember being in my doctor's office and there were, you know,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: there were people that recognized me and I just kind
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: of would put my head down in the beginning and...
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: I wasn't very open with telling a lot of people.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I felt like people were probably wondering, you know, why
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: isn't she pregnant yet? And, you know, all these different things.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: And then there was a part of me where I'm like,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I don't, why do I care about this? You know,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I could be helping so many other people talking about this. And, um,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: that was, that was one of my top moments. I mean,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: of course, playing for the national team and, and giving
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: birth to Harper.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: And all that. But, um, The amount of support that
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: I received and the amount of people that reached out
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: after I had gone public with that Women's Health Magazine
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: article just felt really fulfilling to just really put it
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: out there and help other women. Because it's, yeah, it's
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: just a really tough, tough journey.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine you ever being embarrassed. I just don't
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: like that version of you. Because it's real, though. It's
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: real life. But I just can't see that side of
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: you in so many ways because you're such a confident person.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Yeah.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: And then, yeah, it was I had to tell obviously
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: had to tell Fox, like, yeah, I'm going to be on,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: you know, and that was another thing. I'm like, I
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: have to plan these transfers. Yeah. Around soccer. I'm like,
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: I'm still planning my life around soccer because I want to. So,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: you know, I want to work.
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: I want to work these month long tournaments in the summer.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: So that was like a whole nother thing in itself
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: to plan the timing of all that. And then, yeah,
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Fox was, they were thrilled. They were over the moon,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: super supportive, whatever you need. And obviously wardrobe staff, as
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: you know, I was talking to you about what some
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: of the stuff that you like to wear. Cause I
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: was like, I don't, I don't know how I'm going
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: to be. I don't know what's going to be comfortable
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: on air.
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So that was, that was that.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: But it is weird how, I remember being scared to
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: tell Fox too, but not for any reason. Like there
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: was no indication that they wouldn't be supportive of the pregnancy.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: And I was working on Undisputed at the time. So
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: it was me behind a desk with Skip Bayless and
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: Shannon Sharp. So in a weird way, like being behind
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: the desk, my belly really didn't show a lot of
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: the time.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: And the hardest part was- Were you doing college football
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: though too?
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: So you were pregnant during college football and Undisputed. So
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: it was really busy.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: And then I ended up, Leaving Undisputed when I went
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: on maternity leave, which was like best timing ever for
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: many reasons. It was time to move on, but it
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: was just crazy how it timed out perfectly. So college football,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I was pregnant, but in like the comfortable stages.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I was still flying.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: But my last event with Undisputed was the Super Bowl.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: And I remember and I also did I did some
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: entertainment reporting and I still do at times and I
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: worked for Extra and no dog show at this point.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: I did the dog show in the summer that year.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: So that was my first event back. Gigi was born,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: what month was Gigi born?
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: So March 24th, 22.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: So it was the Super Bowl.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Don't ask me who was playing. I should remember.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: But it was in LA because I remember walking pregnant
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: like and thinking oh wow like this is I'm done
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I am I feel it now like this is the
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: end and I I don't know what week I was
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: it was in the 30 weeks sometime but I was
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: like I'll be fine I'll just keep on keeping on
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: and then I had Gigi and had a really natural
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: time off and then I worked the dog show which
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: was like in June right after Gigi so I had
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: like two months off and I remember like you like
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: we've shared stories about like pumping and I was like
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: in the security van and I was hiding.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: And they were like, don't worry, we won't let anyone
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: near you. That was hard.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: So being pregnant, I think was really fun.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Like, was it hard for you on air or no?
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess you were sitting for undisputed. I
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: have one story that's very, I gotta be honest.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: So undisputed was hard because I would wake up at
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: three or four, but I find that we've discussed this,
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: that in a weird way, being busy was good. I
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: couldn't really think about it or stress about it. I
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: just was going. Like I was just going to continue on.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: I was still traveling.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: I was busy. I was excited. I was healthy.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: You know, I didn't have any morning sickness or anything
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: that was holding me back. So I just, I was tired,
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: of course, but maybe I was always tired.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: I have one story that I have to admit. And
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: it was a college football game. And Gus, Joel, and
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: I have a very organic relationship. conversation while we're on air, right? Like,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: we're always talking.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: It's very free-flowing.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I'll say to my producer, hey, Chuck, I can add
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: on so-and-so. And I don't even remember who.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: The player was.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Let's just say it was Christian Pulisic, if we're talking
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: about soccer. Like I said, hey, I've got a story
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: on Christian. And then, like, minutes went by, and we
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: had moved on to other things, and Gus throws it
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: to me. He's like, hey, what do you got on Christian?
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: And I had absolutely no idea. No idea what my
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: story was. Forgot what I had pitched. And that has, Carly,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: never happened to me. And this is like a big
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: college football game. I think we were at Oklahoma or
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: it was about an Oklahoma player. And I've definitely blocked
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: it out of my brain because it was so traumatizing.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: And I just didn't speak. And I, so this is like.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: So you did have a thought about it at one point.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: At one point.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Earlier in the game that was it was more so
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: that I was like there's so much going on during
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: a game where I'm talking to people reading listening so
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: he threw it to me just in a moment where
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I like wasn't ready for it like it came to
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: me five seconds after he threw it to me or
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: 10 seconds after but for whatever reason in that moment
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I was just like pregnancy brain like it was not
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: there So I didn't say anything. And then my producer
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: was like, hey, you good? I'm like, yeah, Mike, like,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: wasn't working. Oh, my gosh. I, of course, have told
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: him since it was not that.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: So then.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Trey, who is my audio guy, who is literally an angel,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: like he is a foster.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: The guy is the best guy in the world. Foster parent.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: I love him. We've worked together for years.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I see Trey sprinting from the other sideline because he
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: thinks he screwed up and my microphone doesn't work.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: And he comes over. He's like, what happened? I go, Trey,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: I am so sorry. But that one was on me.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: And he was like, it's OK.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Don't worry about it. You're pregnant.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: And we're in this together. And so then in about,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: this all feels like eight years, 30 seconds later, I say, hey, Chuck,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: I'm good. I got that story. And so then Gus
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: threw back to me and he was like, tell us
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: about that Christian Pulisic guy. And I, of course, had
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: my story. But it was so bad. It's crazy. Pregnancy
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: brain is real.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Oh, yeah. Mom brain, pregnancy brain, post-pregnancy brain. I lost
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: my train of thought last summer. Just covering the women's euros.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: The final Harper had had me up. She was, she
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: was with me in LA the whole time. She had
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: me up every three hours for weeks. Oh, and I'm,
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: you know, nursing and I'm, you know, pumping when I
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: go to the, to the studio. And, um, yeah, I
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: remember we were doing a standing segment. Stu was on
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: and I like turned to Stu and he's giving me
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: this look and I'm like, I just lost my train
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: of thought. And I think, you know, Stu and Ari
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: kind of, I think, I think Ari was, yeah, Ari
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: was there as well. Just kind of, you know, helped
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: me through it. But I was like, oh my gosh.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, I knew what I was going to say.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: We rehearsed it a bit and boom, gone. Gone.
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it happens. It just doesn't happen a lot.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: But it was an odd thing.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: Yes. I can't even believe I admitted that. But it was.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: But Trey has forgiven me since. And so has my producer,
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: Chuck McDonald, who after the game, I remember going over
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: to him and just being like, because, you know, you
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: talk to your producer and talk back, but a game
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: is happening and you can't really get into the specifics.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: And I was like, Chuck, I don't know. And he
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: was like, Jenny, you're good. That doesn't happen to you. Like,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: we're not holding on to this.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: I'm sure nobody even really noticed.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: And it was like, oh, audio issue. And then poor Trey.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: But Trey, I love him to death.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: All right. I got to give him something. On that note,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: let's take a quick break.
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: And we've discussed the pre-pregnancy, the pregnancy, and then the postpartum,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: which Carly is about to experience very, very soon again.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: We'll be right back. Welcome back to Whatever It Takes.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: That last segment, I was getting some cramps going on
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: down below. I'm like, am I going to go into
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: labor at this recording of episodes? The show must go on.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Doing whatever it takes. Yeah, whatever it takes. Are you good?
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: I'm good now. Maybe some Braxton Hicks, you know. They
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: were pretty strong, though. I think we're talking this into existence, Carly.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I know. I mean, I still need a few more days. Okay.
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Where are you at? You're 39?
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: No.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Tomorrow will technically be exactly 39. I thought we were
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: right around there. Oh my gosh. I'm so excited for you.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: I know. So what did you, did you have something
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: a friend sent you?
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: This is crazy because someone knows that we're talking about this.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: One of my best friends who's pregnant right now and
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: she and I were texting about IVF and pregnancy. And
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: so she's, I've been talking to her a lot about
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: this and she just texted me. Just wanted you to
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: know this quote that I read today. Research on longevity
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: is complicating the story. Women who had their last child
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: after 33 were twice as likely to live to 95,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: while women who gave birth after 40 were four times
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: as likely to reach 100.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: So, Carly, I'll see you in the hundreds. That'd be amazing. Although,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: you know, hopefully that's not, you know, too horrible of
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: a 100-year-old. You know, I don't want to be, like,
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: a vegetable at that point. Yes. Like, still hanging. Hopefully
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: we're all hanging a little bit.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Hopefully we're in a nursing home together with our kids
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: visiting all the time. But yeah, so Alex was thinking
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: about us.
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: Wow, look at that. I did read that.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: I know.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: There's always the thought that I did see that. I
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: feel like I saw that on Instagram. But there's always
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: the thought of, like, I think there's pros and cons
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: to having kids when you're older, you know, versus younger
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: and You could look at it both ways. I mean,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: I think you're older, you're wiser, you're more comfortable in
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: your own skin. But then I'm like, oh my gosh, when,
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: you know, Harper and this baby, I mean, I'm about
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: to pop this baby out at 44 years old. And
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I hope, you know, we got to really
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: stay active. Like, I hope we're around for grandchildren. You know,
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: there's whole, that whole element. And yeah, it's gone through my,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: it's gone through my mind a bit, but.
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: I just think that the lifestyle that we live, I mean,
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: there's so much that you can control and not control.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: But I do think we're doing the right things to
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: be healthy. And that's what you have to control, right?
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Control the controllables. I think having kids a little older
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: is fun that we have the ability to, you know,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: show them fun things. I mean, I can't imagine my
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: life having kids in my 20s, but I have friends
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: who did and it was the best thing for them.
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: So it's There's no perfect way. You just have to
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: follow that gut and instinct. But we're living till 100.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: So we are, according to the study. I wonder how
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: many people they studied there.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm all in. Just the three of us. And
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: that is the study. And I'll see you there.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: Since you're about to hit baby delivery and then postpartum,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: that stage for you with Harper, I think something that
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: you said to me, like you've just embraced every stage
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: because of maybe the not... it wasn't perfect and easy
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: from the beginning. And so now you've just, you're like, hey,
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: I might not be sleeping. I'm just going to embrace it. Like,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: how lucky to celebrate every moment. Are you looking forward
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: to postpartum? And maybe what are the challenges that you
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: remember or don't remember? And just kind of your approach
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: this time around?
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think, you know, everybody's journey is different.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: And there's women that absolutely hate being pregnant, but love
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: having kids. And there's women that love being pregnant. And,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: you know, there's all these different feelings I think that
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: every woman goes through. With my particular journey, I think,
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: like you said, because it was so hard, I really
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: embraced everything, even my pregnancy. I mean, I did. I
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: loved being pregnant. I thought it was an absolute miracle
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: of what our bodies can do and how everything that
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: is needed is just forming and prepared and when you
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: deliver the baby, same thing. I mean, your body does
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: some incredible things. So I just, it's so miraculous to
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: be able to even be pregnant, get pregnant. So I
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: really embrace that. And then what's kind of crazy is
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: I was not present during my career. And I don't
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: know that... I mean, I was definitely present in the
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: 2015 World Cup final.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: That was a very fun game to be a part of.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: But being in those zones and those moments throughout my
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: career was really difficult because you're always trying to prepare
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: for the next thing and you're always worried about making
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: rosters and everything's in cycles. Every four years is a
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: World Cup and Olympics. So it was really hard. And
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: once I stopped playing and then... had Harper, again, I
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: think everybody had told me how fast it goes. Everybody
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: had told me to soak up the moments. And I really,
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: truly did. I loved every stage. It was, I would
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: say the one thing that rocked my boat a little
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: bit is type A. And, you know, I like to
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: have things tidy and do the dishes before I go
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: to bed or, you know, kind of you know, have
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: things like cleaned up and do the wash and all
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: these different things. And suddenly you have this tiny little
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: human that you're keeping alive and you're not really sleeping.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: And I was nursing and, you know, the cluster feeds
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: and all these different types of of moments that I had,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: it was, it was really difficult for me. I remember
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: one day I was planted to, I felt like I
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: was planted to the couch for like 12 hours. And
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I said to Brian, I was like, oh my gosh,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: like I haven't gone outside, like you're outside. And I'm like,
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: oh my goodness. And then I just kind of took
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: myself back a little bit and I'm like, okay, this
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: is short lived. Just try to embrace it. So that
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: took getting used to, and it was, it was short lived,
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: you know, and, Eventually, I could put Harper down in
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: one of those little bouncers and, you know, take a
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: shower freely. And I didn't have too many emotions, I
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: would say. You know, I think I don't know how
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: you were after with Gigi, but. You know, I wasn't
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: too sad. I feel like I didn't battle a lot
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: of those postpartum emotions that some other women battle. And
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: I produced milk, which made breastfeeding way easier. I nursed
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: her for a whole year. I can't say that if
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: I had to go back to a nine to five
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: job and have the stress of that, of pumping and
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: doing all that, would my supply have been that good?
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: I think a lot of women, you know, struggle with that,
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: the stress of that. So yeah, I don't know. I mean,
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: obviously I don't, I wasn't, we weren't really nervous parents
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: either because I think we were a bit older and
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: it was just kind of trial and error for us.
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: You know, we, we didn't over-research, we didn't over-analyze. We
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: kind of went with our intuition about what she was
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: doing and kind of started to decipher between her cries
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: and in her crib, whether we go in, whether we
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: don't go in. And yeah, so I feel like we
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: approached it pretty well.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: And the second time around, I mean, yeah, I mean,
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: I don't, I don't know what to expect. Obviously we
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: know kind of what to do now and this baby
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: could be completely different. Um, but you know, I plan
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: on kind of doing the same similar things and, um, Yeah,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: but I would say I'm probably a bit more emotional
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: towards the latter end of this pregnancy, which I'm not
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: sure why. I wonder why. I don't know. Emotional in
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: what way? Maybe the hormones are extra strong. Yeah, just emotional.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: I just feel like, yeah, things get to me. I'm like,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: I look at Harper and I'm like, oh, like, we're
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: not going to be a family of three, four. I mean,
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: I'm excited, but I'm like, this is, you know, this
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: is going to change a lot. So, yeah, but... I
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: would say that, you know, I had 36 hours of
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: labor last time. It was long. It was long. And eventually,
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: you know, we got there. But yeah, we'll see what
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: this time brings. Oh my gosh. I don't know. How
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: was your whole life? It was a lot.
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, I just, in hearing you talk about that,
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I do find it crazy that our bodies, I do.
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: Think in a lot of ways, forget.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: Because yes, there's sleepless nights and there's stress from breastfeeding
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: or not breastfeeding. And you just, I think you forget, like,
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: I'm going to be living this through you in a week, basically,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: and doing it again, right? Like it all comes back
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: to you. Postpartum for me was, was okay. I mean, I,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: I think that emotionally, like there were times where I
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: was super just like hormonal in a way of just
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: being tired. I remember yelling, sorry, mom. And my mom,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: like in a way that was so horrible, because I'd
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: asked her to take the dog outside and it was
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: raining and she like took him out for a longer walk.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: And then I had a wet dog and it just
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: like I was like, I'm done. I like I can't
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: function right now like this. That wasn't helpful.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: Like I was so cruel.
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: And on that same day, we had to drive to
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: the pediatrician and it was raining and I live in L.A.,
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: And I was like, why is it raining today, the
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: day we have to drive? You know, it was just like,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: it hit me. Everything is so heightened.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: So heightened.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: That I very vividly remember. I would say that that's
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: how I was for some stretches because.
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: You're so tired. You're just tired. So, okay, good. So we're,
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: that's normal. That's all good and normal.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: But no, I mean, I did breastfeed for almost six months,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: which I'm glad I did. And then I pumped for
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: a little bit longer. I mean, I take that back.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: It was probably like, Four months and then I pumped
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: and kind of got to six months with her because
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: I was traveling again. And I have some reporter friends
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: that I know that were able to pump like mid-game
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: at halftime. And I just like know myself and I
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: barely can go to the bathroom in time. So that
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: didn't feel feasible to me, although incredibly challenging. impressed by
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: some who do. And maybe the second, if I hope
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: when I do this again, if I could pull that off,
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: I could try.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: But at least four years.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Ago, it felt very not doable to me to think
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: of that mid-game. What did you do at night? Did
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: you mostly do, did you just nurse her?
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: I nursed her and then I would also pump. So
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: there was a bottle, like I remember, it's crazy.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Did you have a night nurse or anybody? I had
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: a night nurse for three weeks. Which was really nice.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: And it was short. And it was, I learned a
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: lot from her. So she lived with you? Well, she
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: didn't live with us. I guess she just came over
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: at night.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: For like maybe four nights a week. It wasn't full time.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Did they just get the baby.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: Up, hand them to you?
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like, it's like I don't remember because I feel
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: like it was such a whirlwind. She would come over
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: at like 9 a.m. So I think Gigi was already asleep,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: but she would kind of do the first shift with
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: a bottle and then I would sleep a little longer
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: and then I would pump. But then Matt would wake
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: up early when she would leave and I'd sleep a
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: couple more hours.
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: I mean, my fear, I guess I did have.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: That nighttime fear, which I think a lot of parents
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: have that like, well, what if like who's watching them?
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: And so I liked the idea of someone in the room.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: But I don't know if I would do that again.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: I don't think I think it was more a new mom. Yeah.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I really learned a lot from our night nurse and
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: I'm still close with her. She's she's living overseas now.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: And I remember telling Matt, like, if we have another kid,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: we're having her back. It's been five years, but. I
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: just learned a lot from her, and that was the
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: comfort of just having someone who'd been in a room
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: with a million babies and moms was really nice for me.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: We didn't have family around, and I really did enjoy that,
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: but you kind of just find a rhythm eventually.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: So I think the harder part was.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: I didn't feel like I lost the baby weight quickly,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: and it wasn't like, oh, my gosh, I'm going crazy
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: to lose it.
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: No, I know. Didn't you go into it thinking, because
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: I feel like so many women said to me, you know, Yeah,
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: if you, you know, breastfeed, like, you're going to shed
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: so much weight. No, not for me. It didn't... I
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: don't think... I think when I finished completely, that's when
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: I started to shed. Same with me.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: Which was a year.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: I did not lose weight while breastfeeding. I felt like
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: I really had to stop breastfeeding.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: But I have.
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: One of my best friends is at A Million Babies,
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: and she's basically never stopped breastfeeding.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: It's never looked better. So, like... I don't know.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's, everyone's different. I didn't love that feeling.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: I didn't feel, I loved the benefits of breastfeeding, but
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: I didn't love the postpartum. I did not feel like
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: I was losing weight and it didn't really matter. Yes,
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: there was some insecurity in that, but I'm like, I
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: just had a baby. It's not like I'm going to
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: bounce back tomorrow, but I think it takes time. Even just,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: you know, your, your, I had a little bit of
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: that diastasis. So you, you know, your core muscles just
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: took forever to feel better.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Like that I think is all normal, but I didn't
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: love that feeling.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: No.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: And I also didn't, since we're talking all things, I
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: didn't love how big my boobs got.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: At all.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: I actually didn't mind it.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: Like, wait a second. That was fun for me. I
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: don't know. I just, like, equate it to, like, just,
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know, not being thin, you know?
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: And, like, running. As a runner, you're like, I don't
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: need this. Like, this needs to go away.
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: No.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: No.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Mine are definitely not as big this time around as
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: they were last time. And I was a little bit,
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: I was probably like 12 pounds lighter going into this pregnancy. Interesting.
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: But again, postpartum, you know, these puppies are going to probably,
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: you know, fill up with lots of milk. But like,
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: this is the stuff I'm kind of like, oh my gosh,
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: I remember being on air. And, you know, Rob, I'm
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: Ari and I would always be talking about like bra choices.
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: And if I'm wearing a bra today, if I'm not
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: wearing a bra and Rob's like, I don't want HR
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: coming over here. But that was always like the hot topic.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: But I mean, my bra size, I was like, this
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: is insane. Two years ago when I was pregnant, like
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: that for me was like, I was uncomfortable, especially sitting
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: at a desk and in the dress and Well, and.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: It feels a little vulnerable because that's, when you're at
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: a desk, it's almost like it hits you right there too.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Like that's all you kind of see of someone. I've
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: never at all had that. So I was like, oh,
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: this is kind of fun.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: But I'm also not one who would like to, like,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: I don't care. That's just not high on my priority list.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: But I get it. I mean, it's not that fun.
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: Like the milk and the leaking and all the things. Oh,
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: that's another thing. Nobody told me to get the nipple pads.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: So I... No one told you?
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: No.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: I woke up and the bed was soaked. Oh, no.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Milk stains everywhere. Brian was like, what just happened? I'm like,
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: I guess I'm leaking. Yeah, nobody told me. So I've
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: got boxes of them now left over. So I'll be
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: all good. But yeah, that was a big... missing piece
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: that nobody told me about.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: So yeah, the postpartum like chats are like, you gotta,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: you gotta really be close with someone. I'm going to
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: remind you all the things you got to remember, but
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: truly it's like your body went through a lot. I,
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: I think it's still the, the same thinking of how
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: incredible what our bodies can do. Like I, it's just
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: insane and you're able to create this life and, and,
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: able to go back to how you were feeling like
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: you'll be back in no time and it's just that
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: thought is wild yeah.
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: I know i and i am last time i was
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: doing the breastfeeding in our bed um which was absolutely
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: destroying my back and a couple people were like oh
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: just lay down and do it and i'm like that
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: never worked for me yeah so i think i'm gonna bring.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: The um.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: You know, the recliner that we have in the nursery
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: in our room so I can at least get in
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: that because it just, pillows, there was not enough pillows
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: for support, slunched over, hunched over. Yeah. So that's something
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: that I'm going to change. So true. Like the recliner,
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: I remember thinking, these chairs are so expensive.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: What is the point? And I did not get a
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: good chair and that was a big miss. So you,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: when you're done with that chair, you send it my way.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: Well, now, and I don't want to buy another chair
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: for Harper's room. So I'm like, well, she has nothing
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: in there. So if we want to read a book or,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: but I was like, I don't want to buy another one.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: Why do I need another one? So that's the dilemma.
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: But yeah, postpartum is, you know, it's very interesting. I mean,
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: obviously C-sections and, you know, The way that the delivery
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: goes dictates a lot of different things. It's not all glamorous, but,
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: you know, it's part of the experience. Part of it. Well, look,
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: I'm so excited for you. We've rocked it so far
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: on TV. We're in it. On TV. Whatever it takes. Yeah.
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: Whatever it takes. Oh, my gosh.
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: Carly, I'm so excited for you. And I honestly, I
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: really appreciated this conversation. I feel like the timing could
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: not have been better for both of us. you know,
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: it was really nice. So hopefully fun for others to
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: hear our stories.
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: I agree. And yeah, well, everybody will stay tuned as
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: to the journey. I'm sure I'll have lots of things
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: to talk about postpartum. Maybe there'll be some different things,
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: maybe some different labor experiences, but we got you covered. Oh,
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: Well, boy, until next time, and maybe with a new baby,
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: maybe without. Thank you for listening to Whatever It Takes
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: with Carly Lloyd.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: And Jenny Taft.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Please, you know, chat with us. We'd love to know
• 54:17
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• 54:21
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• 54:25
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• 54:29
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• 54:32
  Speaker 2: Jenny Taft, Carly Lloyd, and Whatever It Takes Pod. Thanks
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: so much, and we'll be back soon.