Latest / Cookbook Love Podcast / Episode 367: Overcoming Self-Doubt as a Cookbook Author
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- 0:02You're listening to the Cookbook Love podcast with Maggie
- 0:05Green, episode number 360 7.
- 0:10Welcome to the Cookbook Love Podcast.
- 0:13A podcast that celebrates cookbook readers, buyers,
- 0:16collectors, writers and clubs.
- 0:18And now your host.
- 0:20Cookbook author, culinary Dietician, and Cookbook Writing Coach Maggie Green.
- 0:31Hi everybody.
- 0:32Welcome back to another episode of the Cookbook Love podcast.
- 0:36How's everybody doing today?
- 0:38As always, hope you're doing well and I am enjoying a quiet morning
- 0:43here inside my cookbook Bunker.
- 0:47I actually have about a half hour before.
- 0:50Some workers show up to do some work on our garage door, and I thought it
- 0:56would take some time to record this episode for you because I have just
- 1:02finished enrolling new students in the most recent round of cookbooks on KDP,
- 1:09and after having many conversations with aspiring cookbook authors, I
- 1:15wanna talk today about something that.
- 1:18I keep hearing over and over again, and it's the number one reason that
- 1:25successful cooks, bakers, dieticians, chefs, uh, people give me for not.
- 1:35Joining this program.
- 1:37And the interesting thing about this is it's actually the same things
- 1:41that I might even tell myself for not doing something new, joining a new
- 1:47program, taking another opportunity.
- 1:50And it's the same thing that I hear a lot of people say when
- 1:53they're, uh, maybe thinking about another opportunity in their life.
- 2:00And on the surface, here's the things that we hear.
- 2:04We don't have enough time.
- 2:06We can't figure out the tech.
- 2:09I don't think anybody's going to care.
- 2:12I don't think I'm qualified.
- 2:14I need more money, I need more expertise.
- 2:19But those are all the surface things that we say, but underneath every
- 2:25single one of them, the root is the same, and it's called doubt.
- 2:32D-O-U-B-T.
- 2:33Doubt or self-doubt?
- 2:36If you wanna think about it as self-doubt and self-doubt is so insidious because
- 2:43it doesn't show up shouting, telling us that we can't do the thing, we can't
- 2:48publish the book, we can't make it happen.
- 2:52It whispers and disguises itself as something that we start to
- 2:56think is perfectly reasonable.
- 2:59Well, if we can tell.
- 3:01Maggie, she doesn't have time.
- 3:02Or if we can tell Maggie she's too old, or if we can tell Maggie she's not techie
- 3:07enough, or if we can tell Maggie that nobody's gonna care that who is she, that
- 3:11she's not as good as somebody else, that she doesn't have an audience, or that it's
- 3:16not gonna turn out like she hopes it will.
- 3:20It whispers lies to us.
- 3:24So if you've ever thought one of those thoughts.
- 3:26You're not alone.
- 3:27I've thought of those two.
- 3:29My students have thought them, and even people who are thinking about joining a
- 3:34program like cookbooks on KDP, thank them.
- 3:37In fact, every creative person who wants to do something in their life
- 3:43thinks these things and wrestles with this concept of self-doubt.
- 3:48Even though you may not really realize that's what it is.
- 3:51But underneath all of these excuses, I think it's like a
- 3:54simmering pot of soup on the stove.
- 3:57And I like to call it doubt soup.
- 3:59And if you let that doubt bubble long enough, it flavors everything you think.
- 4:05It seeps into everything you wanna try.
- 4:08It convinces you that even if you start, it will not work.
- 4:14And then what happens is because we don't think it's gonna work, a
- 4:17lot of times we don't even start.
- 4:19It's dangerous.
- 4:21It stops us, it keeps us circling, it keeps us overthinking.
- 4:25It erodes our trust in ourselves.
- 4:28And in other people.
- 4:30And when you're considering something as personal as writing a cookbook about your
- 4:34food, your family, your memories, your knowledge, the whispers get even louder.
- 4:41So I wanna talk about this today because.
- 4:45This really gets people all balled up, and I heard it over and over again,
- 4:50and in particular from one of my, uh, potential students who thought that
- 4:56in order to write this cookbook she needed, and if she wanted to talk
- 5:01about fresh food and cooking tips, she needed to be a registered dietician.
- 5:07I also heard it from people that said that their recipes are just a mess.
- 5:14They got this messy pile of recipes.
- 5:18And so what that meant is that doubt showed up telling them
- 5:23that before you write a cookbook, you have to fix something.
- 5:27You need to do something else.
- 5:29You need to get those recipes in shape, or you need to get another certification.
- 5:35And the truth is, is that doubt will always tell you that you
- 5:38need something else to succeed.
- 5:43Money, time, support, uh, organization.
- 5:51You need more, uh, knowledge.
- 5:53You need more expertise, more tech, bigger audience.
- 5:57More, more, more, more, more.
- 6:02That's how you know doubt is talking.
- 6:03So if you've ever heard.
- 6:06Your brain whisper to you something about you need more before you do such and such.
- 6:11That is doubt.
- 6:13But the anecdote to this, from what I have learned in my life, writing
- 6:17cookbooks and helping people publish cookbooks, is you have to anchor what
- 6:24you want to do and something else.
- 6:27And the anchor is in what you already know.
- 6:32Food, cooking, nutrition, cookbooks, baking, chopping vegetables, uh, sharing
- 6:41meals, sharing recipes, what you already know that those experiences can do because
- 6:47cookbooks aren't just about the recipes.
- 6:51Cookbooks and your success is about what those cookbooks and
- 6:56recipes do for other people.
- 6:59Meaning helping someone cook a meal they never thought they could cook.
- 7:04Giving family a way to reconnect around a recipe that holds a memory, supporting
- 7:09someone's health with food guidance that makes their daily life better, healthier.
- 7:14They maybe feel better bringing a sense of joy and ease and belonging.
- 7:20To a person when you share a meal with them, and the way you already know that
- 7:25this is true is because you have lived it.
- 7:29And this is where cookbooks start to become such interesting studies is
- 7:35because we all have different lives and we all have lived different things.
- 7:40And an example from my own life is, let's just take chicken soup.
- 7:46I know for a fact through lived experience.
- 7:49What Chicken Soup does.
- 7:51Four people who are not feeling well.
- 7:54In fact, I currently have a little bit of a runny nose,
- 7:57little bit of a scratchy throat.
- 7:59One of my, uh, sons in, uh, Chicago was kind of feeling the same way this
- 8:04week and I suggested that he get some chicken soup, make some chicken soup
- 8:08because we know what chicken soup does for people when they're not feeling good.
- 8:13And we also.
- 8:14It's kind of like if you talk to a Jewish grandmother, Jewish mother,
- 8:17they call it Jewish penicillin.
- 8:19We know what chicken soup can do.
- 8:23Lemme give you a few more examples.
- 8:25We know what a birthday cake does for someone whose birthday it is.
- 8:32We know that.
- 8:34And if we experienced it as a child or we experienced someone giving a cake
- 8:38to us, or we experience the joy of baking a cake for someone else we know.
- 8:43What a birthday celebration does for people.
- 8:48We know what it feels like to share recipes.
- 8:52We know what it's like to receive a recipe from someone that was so
- 8:56great that we make it all the time.
- 8:59For example, the Focaccia Bread from Marcella Hazen.
- 9:02Essentials of a classic Italian cookie, and I've kind of talked
- 9:04about that for the past few weeks.
- 9:06I know what it feels like to have that focaccia bread recipe that just.
- 9:11Was my go-to recipe for focaccia bread.
- 9:14And we also know what it's like to be on the giving end of those recipes
- 9:18to someone who treasures the recipe.
- 9:22I know what it's like to slow down and cook to chop, to turn on my favorite
- 9:28podcasts, to maybe pour a glass of sparkling water to enjoy cooking.
- 9:34I know what it does for my soul.
- 9:37This is what I mean when we can start to anchor into these things that we already
- 9:43know are true because we've lived it.
- 9:46Doubt goes away.
- 9:50This is what it means to begin with.
- 9:53The end in mind.
- 9:54There's a book called The Seven Habits of Highly Effective
- 9:57People written by Stephen Covey.
- 9:59Um, it's written a long time ago, uh, but it's still so true.
- 10:06When we begin with the end in mind, to overcome our doubt, we're not
- 10:10talking about the Amazon listing.
- 10:12We're not talking about the finished manuscript.
- 10:14We're not talking about the book proposal or the book deal,
- 10:17or the agent or the publisher.
- 10:19The end is the lived experience in knowing that you already carry.
- 10:26Right now, you need no more of anything to.
- 10:32Know what a meal can do, what fresh food can do, what Homecooked meals
- 10:36can do, what cooking with other people can do, what slowing down to cook
- 10:40can do, what sharing recipes can do, what baking a lovely cake can do.
- 10:45You already know that.
- 10:47And all the cookbook authors that I have worked with interviewed
- 10:51on this show, they might not have known it from the beginning.
- 10:55The self-doubt could have cret up for them, but they were able
- 10:57to overcome it and they were able to tap into what they knew.
- 11:02To be true also about recipes, food, cooking, baking meals, sharing meals,
- 11:09celebrating birthdays, slowing down.
- 11:11We already know it because we have done it.
- 11:16We've cooked, we've baked, we've shared meals.
- 11:19We've had some failures, we've had some successes.
- 11:22We've had experience with food in our own life.
- 11:26So when this doubt starts to creep in.
- 11:29Saying you need more experience.
- 11:32You need more time.
- 11:33You need more money.
- 11:34You need more of something to write a cookbook, you have to remember this.
- 11:40You don't need more of anything, go to the end of the story and say, I am the
- 11:45one who already knows what food and cooking and nutrition and fresh food
- 11:50and lovely cakes, and sharing recipes and enjoying good food together with
- 11:55people can do because it has done it for me in my life here in my home with
- 12:02my family over and over and over again.
- 12:05And you see this takes.
- 12:07Sharing, uh, recipes and stories in a cookbook out of credentials.
- 12:12It's not about our audience.
- 12:14It's not about perfection.
- 12:15It's not about tech.
- 12:16It's not about time.
- 12:17It's not about money.
- 12:19It's about knowing with the anchor about, in my own life, food has done this for me.
- 12:27So I want you to, I wanna help make this real for you because.
- 12:30If you're thinking about anything, doing something new, maybe writing a
- 12:36cookbook, I want you to think about memories and experiences in your own
- 12:43life related to food, cooking, eating better nutrition, sharing meals.
- 12:51Receiving good meals.
- 12:52Um, the power of food for healing, for having fun, for learning the
- 12:57power of cooking, growing your own herbs, growing your own tomatoes.
- 13:02Um, what are the moments in your life when food did something bigger for you than
- 13:08just food in your mouth and swallowing it?
- 13:13Maybe it's when you delivered, uh, soup to a neighbor who was sick.
- 13:17Maybe someone brought you something when you were sick.
- 13:19I can specifically remember before I even had children.
- 13:23Um, I had, uh, have a medical procedure done and I was working full-time at
- 13:28the time and I recuperated on the couch and the doorbell rang, and my
- 13:33best friend from work was standing at the door with a pack of m and ms,
- 13:38which is my very favorite thing, and, um, uh, casserole that she had made.
- 13:45I will never forget the power of that act of kindness ever.
- 13:55What about pies, cakes, something that related to maybe a generation of people
- 13:59who came before you, grandmothers, aunts, grandfathers, uncles, people who loved
- 14:05to cook, and the memories that you have with that, I could go on and on and on
- 14:10about memories I have of my own mother.
- 14:13I have memories of my father trying to cook and follow recipes.
- 14:17I have memories with my grandmother, my two aunts.
- 14:21I have memories of relatives coming from Germany and teaching my mother
- 14:24how to make wiener schnitzel tons and tons of really positive food memories
- 14:30that no one can ever take away from me.
- 14:32And I know the power of learning how to crunch saltine crackers to coat the wiener
- 14:38schnitzel, so it's nice and crunchy.
- 14:42Maybe it's, uh, memories of experiences in your own kitchen
- 14:46with your own family and things that really move the needle for them.
- 14:51Uh, the smell of garlic in our house, whenever I did that, always brought
- 14:55my kids like outta their room.
- 14:56Like, what are you cooking?
- 14:58Of course baking cookies is a, is a popular example.
- 15:01Um, maybe it's recipes that you've given to people.
- 15:04That people keep asking for over and over again, or that you hear people
- 15:08saying, yeah, I made your recipe and it works for me every time, and it really
- 15:12makes me feel like a successful cook.
- 15:14I kind of talked about that last week related to the Thanksgiving dinner.
- 15:18So start with this exercise of thinking about these things from your
- 15:21own life, because what happens is.
- 15:25My experience of food, cooking, meals and sharing is
- 15:29completely different than yours.
- 15:31And yours is completely different than the next person.
- 15:34And this end, knowing that we all have, is what makes our books so unique.
- 15:42So start with the sentence, I know what blank can do and just.
- 15:49To use a food word noodle on that for a while.
- 15:52Give yourself some time to think about it.
- 15:56Don't overthink it.
- 15:57Don't say I'll do it when I have more time.
- 16:00Don't say it when I'll have more, um, energy when I have a cleaner desk because
- 16:05that again is do creeping in saying you.
- 16:08Um, you can't even do this exercise, which isn't true.
- 16:11These things are your anchors, and knowing what your anchors are is the
- 16:16anecdote to any doubt that you will ever have about, let's just say writing a
- 16:20cookbook or getting published, publishing a cookbook, and in cookbooks on KDP.
- 16:27What I teach is a way that we can all become published authors.
- 16:32Through technology that is readily available right now for every single
- 16:37person that has a computer or access to, um, something that's online.
- 16:42And aren't we lucky to have that availability and to be able to
- 16:46use tools like this that make publishing so much easier?
- 16:52So let's wrap this all up.
- 16:54First of all, I think self-doubt is so sneaky it doesn't come barging in.
- 17:00It comes in disguised as what we think are reasonable excuses.
- 17:05And the way you know it's doubt is because it's gonna tell you you need
- 17:09something else before you can succeed.
- 17:14And again, I've heard everybody say all the same things and it's the very same
- 17:18things I probably say and doubt tells me to say when I embark on something new.
- 17:23Typically relates to time.
- 17:25It relates to money, it relates to experience.
- 17:29It relates to writing, it relates to we need more of something else.
- 17:34We need more education, more experience, more time, more money, that we're missing
- 17:40something, we're lacking something.
- 17:42And um, the anecdote isn't more credentials.
- 17:45The anecdote is not more time, it's not more money.
- 17:48It's beginning with the end in mind.
- 17:51And the end is what you already know to be true about what food cooking.
- 17:58Fresh food, baking birthday celebrations, Thanksgiving
- 18:02dinners, memories with family.
- 18:03What has that done for you and your life?
- 18:07That is all you need to move forward.
- 18:09And then we take one step at a time toward becoming a cookbook author, who
- 18:14knows in his or her heart the power of what food has done in your life.
- 18:22So in cookbooks on KDP, that's the heart of what I do, and it's actually
- 18:25the heart of what I teach people and get paid to get published also, which
- 18:28is my traditional publishing program.
- 18:30We're not just collecting recipes, we're anchoring everything we do
- 18:34and what we already know to be true, and this allows us to publish
- 18:38from a place of helping people.
- 18:40A place of generously sharing what we know to be true and of trusting
- 18:44that we have everything it takes to become published cookbook authors.
- 18:49I think doubt is like a fog, and I think doubt is something that is going to stop
- 18:56us from being, uh, the cookbook authors that we want to be, and it's gonna stop.
- 19:01Us from changing the world with cookbooks.
- 19:04So the next time doubt comes rolling in on you, especially if you hear you need
- 19:08something more, just remember that your strength is in what you know to be true.
- 19:15And if you're ready to take the next step, you can join the wait list for
- 19:18the next group of cookbooks on KDP.
- 19:21I'll put a link in the show notes and I want to thank you all for tuning
- 19:25in today to all my loyal listeners.
- 19:28I love you all so much.
- 19:29It's so good to be here and talk with you, and hopefully we'll be
- 19:32back next week with an interview.
- 19:35I had a couple of, uh, people who had colds this past week.
- 19:38A couple of interview cancellations, but it's really great because it gave
- 19:42me the opportunity to explore this topic and to really see how it shows up in
- 19:47my life, how it shows up in the lives of people who want to write cookbooks.
- 19:51And I just want you to know that you're not alone if you're feeling that way too.
- 19:56So that's it for today's episode of the Cookbook Love podcast.
- 19:59This is your host, Maggie Green, and until next time, have a great
- 20:02day and keep loving your cookbooks.
- 20:08Thanks for listening to the Cookbook Love podcast.
- 20:11You can find out more information@www.cookbooklove.co.