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- 0:00Welcome to Reformed thinking. I'm really glad you could join
- 0:03us today for this this deep dive.
- 0:06We are opening up our sources to look at a text that, I mean,
- 0:09honestly, most of us probably think we have pretty well pinned
- 0:12down. Oh, for sure.
- 0:13We're looking at the Great Commission, you know, the
- 0:15verses, Matthew 28, right at the very end of the Gospel.
- 0:18Go therefore, and make disciples.
- 0:20Exactly. It's the church's marching
- 0:21orders. You see it on banners, on
- 0:23T-shirts. I mean, it's the mission
- 0:25statement for half the ministries on the planet.
- 0:27It is, but that familiarity can be a bit of a trap.
- 0:31We read those verses and we just, we skim, we here go and we
- 0:36think we automatically know what the job is.
- 0:38But here's the thing, and this is what our sources get into
- 0:41today. When you actually sit down with
- 0:43the Greek text and then you connect it to the Old Testament
- 0:46background, you start to realize that what we treat as a familiar
- 0:49slogan is actually, I mean, a complex cosmic claim to
- 0:54authority. It really is our sources for
- 0:56this deep dive, and we're mainly looking at the exegetical work
- 0:59of Doctor Cott Callahan and then some practical strategy from
- 1:03Philip F Foley. They argue that we might be
- 1:05missing the point of the grammar.
- 1:07And if you miss the grammar. You miss the specific nature of
- 1:10the mission, so we're going to try to break it down.
- 1:12Look at the what the exegesis of the text and then the how, which
- 1:16is the strategy for actually doing it.
- 1:18Right. We're trying to understand what
- 1:19the Bible is actually demanding of the church here, and it kicks
- 1:22off with a really a really interesting assertion from the
- 1:26source material about the authority behind the whole
- 1:28thing. Callahan makes this point that
- 1:30the Church has exactly 1 singular mission, just one, not
- 1:355 or 6 competing priorities. Which is already a huge claim.
- 1:39It is, and he says that this one mission doesn't just spring out
- 1:41of nowhere. It's tied to a very specific
- 1:44timeline in Scripture. That's right.
- 1:46If you look at, say, Luke 24 or John 20, Jesus gives
- 1:50instructions, but then there's a pause, a waiting period.
- 1:53He tells them to wait. He tells them to wait for the
- 1:55Holy Spirit, and the point is, the work of the Church is
- 1:58strictly impossible without the supernatural power of the
- 2:02Spirit. So the mission isn't active yet.
- 2:04Not yet. It's only in Acts 1.8, once the
- 2:06Spirit actually arrives at Pentecost, that the Go Command
- 2:09truly activates. The church is born, and that's
- 2:12when the Great Commission kicks into gear.
- 2:14OK, but the foundation for all of that, the thing that
- 2:17undergirds it, is what Jesus says right before the command in
- 2:20Matthew 28 point. 18 The absolute bedrock, all authority
- 2:24has been given to me in heaven and on earth.
- 2:27And this is where the textual analysis from Callahan gets
- 2:29really, really cool. He points out that when Jesus
- 2:32says heaven and earth, he's not just, you know, listing to
- 2:35places. No, it's not a list.
- 2:37It's a specific literary device. It's called.
- 2:39Again, it's called mirrorism. A mirrorism.
- 2:42It's where you state the polar opposites of something to
- 2:44signify everything in between. Like saying I searched high and
- 2:48low. Exactly.
- 2:49You mean you searched everywhere?
- 2:50So when Jesus says He has authority in heaven and on
- 2:54earth, he is asserting total absolute command over the entire
- 2:58created cosmos. So it's not just spiritual
- 3:01authority and earthly authority as two separate.
- 3:03Things. No.
- 3:04It's one total authority. There isn't a single square inch
- 3:09of existence, spiritual, physical, political, atomic that
- 3:13is outside of his rule. It's a claim of total cosmic
- 3:16dominion. And the grammar of that claim is
- 3:18specific to that phrase has been given.
- 3:20Yeah, that's important. It's passive.
- 3:22So it implies someone did the giving.
- 3:25It does. Scholars call it a divine
- 3:27passive. It points to a giver, and in
- 3:29this context that's obviously God the Father.
- 3:32Jesus is saying this authority was granted to him.
- 3:35OK. And this is where the source
- 3:36material draws this massive line connecting Matthew 28 all the
- 3:40way back to the Old Testament. To Daniel, specifically Daniel
- 3:43Chapter 7. I love this connection because
- 3:46usually when we read the Great Commission, our brains are just
- 3:48parked in the New Testament. We're thinking about the post
- 3:50resurrection context. Right.
- 3:52But Callahan argues you cannot fully grasp the weight of
- 3:55Matthew 28 without Daniel 7. So what's happening in Daniel 7?
- 3:59Daniel has this vision, a cosmic apocalyptic vision, and he sees
- 4:04his Figure 1 like a Son of Man approaching the Ancient of Days.
- 4:08That's God the Father. That's God the Father and in the
- 4:10vision the Ancient of Days gives this Son of Man figure dominion,
- 4:14glory and a Kingdom dominion. OK, now here is the kicker.
- 4:18If you look at the Septuagint, which is the Greek translation
- 4:21of the Old Testament that was common in Jesus's day, the Greek
- 4:24word used for dominion in Daniel 7 is exusia.
- 4:29And that's the same word. It is the exact same Greek word
- 4:32that Jesus uses for authority in Matthew 28.
- 4:35Wow. So by using that specific word,
- 4:38Jesus is basically looking at his disciples and saying, you
- 4:41know that prophecy, that guy in Daniel's vision?
- 4:44That's me. That's precisely what he's
- 4:46doing. He is identify himself as the
- 4:48apocalyptic cosmic ruler from Daniel's prophecy.
- 4:52He isn't just speaking as a resurrected rabbi, he is
- 4:55speaking with the full authority of the Ancient of Days.
- 4:57And you have to look at the purpose of that authority in
- 4:59Daniel. Then why was that dominion
- 5:01given? Well.
- 5:03Daniel 7.14 tells us it was given so that all peoples,
- 5:08nations and men of every tongue might serve him.
- 5:11So the Great Commission isn't just some new idea Jesus came up
- 5:15with after the resurrection. Not at all.
- 5:17Yeah, it is the direct fulfilment of that ancient
- 5:19prophecy. The authority was given for the
- 5:22purpose of gathering a global, multiethnic, multilingual
- 5:27worshipping people. The Great Commission is the
- 5:30engine that drives toward that end.
- 5:32That completely shifts the perspective.
- 5:35It goes from Let's Go pass out tracks to we are participating
- 5:38in the cosmic enthronement of the King.
- 5:40It's a huge difference, a huge why behind the mission.
- 5:43OK, so that's the authority, the why?
- 5:44Yeah. Let's shift gears now to the
- 5:46what? The actual grammar of the
- 5:47command itself, because I think this is where most people,
- 5:50myself included, probably get tripped up.
- 5:52If you ask the average Christian what's the main command in the
- 5:54Great Commission, they'll almost instantly say go.
- 5:58Almost every time and look in English, it certainly looks that
- 6:00way. Go there for it sounds like
- 6:02command number one, but. Callahan's analysis of the Greek
- 6:04is, well, it's very firm on this point.
- 6:07Very firm. He points out there is only 1
- 6:10imperative verb, 1 actual command in the entire sentence.
- 6:15Just one. And it is not go.
- 6:18The one command is. Make disciples Methytusite in
- 6:23the Greek. That is the engine of the
- 6:25sentence. So everything else in that
- 6:27sentence is just supporting that one main driver.
- 6:30Correct. Make disciples is the central
- 6:33command. The other action words we see
- 6:35going, baptizing, teaching, those are all participles in the
- 6:39Greek. And what does that mean
- 6:40practically? It means they modify the main
- 6:42verb. They describe how to make
- 6:43disciples. They are separate commands.
- 6:45They are components of the one primary command.
- 6:48OK, let's unpack those 3 participles then, one by one.
- 6:50Let's start with going. If it's not the main command,
- 6:53does that mean we don't really have to go?
- 6:55Can we just, you know, make disciples from our living?
- 6:57Room. Not at all.
- 6:58And this is a really important distinction.
- 7:00Callahan identifies going as what's called a participle of
- 7:04attending circumstance. OK, that's a mouthful.
- 7:06It is a grammatical term, but the idea is simple means it's a
- 7:09necessary prerequisite. It has what he calls an
- 7:12ingressive force. Ingressive like it's the entry.
- 7:15Point exactly. You cannot make disciples of the
- 7:17nations if you are not among the nations.
- 7:20Can you give an analogy? Sure, it's like saying driving
- 7:23to the store, buy me some milk. The command is buy, but driving
- 7:28to the store is the circumstance you have to be in to fulfill the
- 7:31command. You can't buy the milk if you
- 7:34never go to the store. That makes perfect sense.
- 7:36No going, no disciples. No going, no making disciples.
- 7:40The two are inextricably linked. But the source also takes a shot
- 7:44at a pretty common phrase we hear in church circles all the
- 7:46time. Every Christian is a missionary.
- 7:49Yeah, he's not a fan of that. I've heard that 1000 times.
- 7:52You know, you're a missionary to your workplace, to your school.
- 7:55Callahan seems to think that's unhelpful.
- 7:57He calls it a cliche that ultimately weakens the specific
- 8:01call to cross cultural missiles. His logic is, if everyone is a
- 8:06missionary simply by existing, then no one is a missionary in
- 8:10the biblical sense of the word. It dilutes the meaning.
- 8:12It does. The source argues that the
- 8:15Church must physically move toward the nations.
- 8:18There is a going involved that requires crossing geographical,
- 8:22cultural and linguistic barriers.
- 8:24So if we just spiritualize going to mean being a nice person to
- 8:29our neighbors? We lose the urgency of taking
- 8:31the gospel to people groups who have 0 access to it.
- 8:34We satisfy ourselves with local kindness, which is good, but
- 8:38it's not the going of the Great Commission.
- 8:40The logic is just brutally simple.
- 8:43No going, no making disciples. That's a hard truth, but it
- 8:46protects the specific meaning of missions.
- 8:49OK, let's move to the second participle.
- 8:51Baptizing. And this is described as the
- 8:53first participle of means. So it's one of the methods, one
- 8:56of the means by which we make disciples.
- 8:58Right, and here the source material gets very, very
- 9:01specific about what baptism is and what it isn't.
- 9:04And this is where it gets a little controversial for some.
- 9:06It can be. Callahan, in his exegesis,
- 9:09defines the Greek word baptisia strictly as immerse.
- 9:12He argues that from a purely lexical standpoint, actions like
- 9:15sprinkling or pouring don't actually fit the definition of
- 9:18the word itself. So he's making a case for
- 9:20immersion as the only proper mode.
- 9:23That's the argument presented in the source, yes, but he goes
- 9:26further and talks about the subjects of baptism, who gets
- 9:29baptized, and the text is very clear that biblically,
- 9:33repentance and faith must precede baptism.
- 9:36He cites Acts 2.38. Repent to be baptized, everyone
- 9:39of you. The repentance comes first.
- 9:42Which leads him to a very specific conclusion.
- 9:45It does. It leads him to state in the
- 9:47source that infant baptism, or the baptism of anyone who is
- 9:50unconverted has. And this is a direct quote from
- 9:53his analysis, no biblical. Warrant and his reasoning is.
- 9:57His reasoning is that baptism is the initiatory sign for a
- 10:00disciple. It's the public entry into the
- 10:02community of disciples. So if you're not yet a disciple,
- 10:05if you haven't repented and believed, then the ritual is
- 10:08being applied improperly. Now we we should be clear.
- 10:10That's the argument in this source.
- 10:12It's a significant point of debate in the wider church,
- 10:14especially for those of us with a Reformed background who might
- 10:17hold the covenant baptism. Absolutely.
- 10:19We're reporting on Callahan's specific, actual argument here,
- 10:23and for him it's about the integrity of the Great
- 10:26Commission itself. He asked the question, if you
- 10:29are baptizing people who aren't disciples, are you actually
- 10:33fulfilling the command to make disciples?
- 10:36That's a sharp question. It is, and he connects this to
- 10:39the danger of pragmatism on the mission field.
- 10:41What? Do you mean by?
- 10:42That well, you see missionaries sometimes, you know, changing
- 10:45the rules for cultural convenience.
- 10:48Maybe they delay baptism for years to see if a person's faith
- 10:51sticks. Or they re baptize people from
- 10:54other traditions. Or in some cases, they abandoned
- 10:56baptism altogether because it's so culturally offensive or
- 10:59dangerous in a particular context.
- 11:02Callahan's point is that we can't do that.
- 11:04We don't get to edit the King's command based on what works or
- 11:06what feels safe. It has to be biblical.
- 11:09OK, biblical, not pragmatic. Let's move to the third
- 11:12participle. The second means teaching, and
- 11:15again, the source is clear. This isn't just teaching people
- 11:17how to be nice or moral. No, the scope is absolutely
- 11:20massive. Yeah, Jesus says teaching them
- 11:23to observe all that. I commanded you all.
- 11:26The source argues this means the entire Bible, the whole council
- 11:29of God. The Old Testament points forward
- 11:32to Jesus. The New Testament reveals him.
- 11:34A disciple needs both to be mature.
- 11:36And there's a distinction here in the source between baptizing
- 11:39and teaching. A critical one.
- 11:41Baptism is a one time event. It's the initiation.
- 11:45Teaching, on the other hand, is a lifelong process.
- 11:48It never, ever stops. You're never done being taught.
- 11:51And the core of that teaching? The absolute center according to
- 11:54the text. It's the gospel of
- 11:56justification. It's vital to get this right.
- 11:59We aren't teaching people a new set of rules to keep so that God
- 12:02will finally like them. That would be.
- 12:03Legalism. Exactly.
- 12:05We are teaching them that a person is reconciled to God not
- 12:07by their own law, keeping, as Romans 3.28 says, but solely by
- 12:11Christ's perfect obedience in his atoning sacrifice.
- 12:14We teach obedience, yes, but it's an obedience that flows
- 12:17from faith, not one that tries to earn favor.
- 12:20OK, so just to recap this section, we have the authority
- 12:23which is cosmic and read it in Daniel 7 and we have the grammar
- 12:27of the one command make disciples, which is accomplished
- 12:29by the means of going, baptizing and teaching.
- 12:32That's the core of it. But then there's this incredible
- 12:35promise that Jesus tacks on at the very end of the verse.
- 12:38And behold, I am with you always to the end of the age.
- 12:41Callahan connects us back to the I AM statements, doesn't he?
- 12:44He does. It's a beautiful bookend to the
- 12:47entire Gospel of Matthew. Think about how the book starts
- 12:50all the way back in chapter 1, verse 23.
- 12:52The. Prophecy of Isaiah.
- 12:54Right, the prophecy regarding Emmanuel.
- 12:56Which means God with us. Exactly.
- 12:58The Gospel opens with the promise that God is with his
- 13:01people. Then when you get to the middle
- 13:05of the book, Matthew 14, Jesus is walking on the water in the
- 13:08storm, and what does he say to the terrified disciples?
- 13:11Take courage. I am.
- 13:13I am. It's an echo of the divine name
- 13:15from the burning Bush. And now here at the very, very
- 13:18end, just as he is about to physically ascend and leave
- 13:22them, he says, I am with you. He's affirming that he is
- 13:25Emmanuel. He is The mission is hard, it's
- 13:28dangerous, it's impossible in human strength, But the presence
- 13:31of the King is guaranteed. He stays with the disciples
- 13:34until the very end of the age. And that presence is so key
- 13:38because, as the source points out, this isn't just a job for a
- 13:41few super Christians. This is a corporate
- 13:44responsibility. That's a crucial distinction
- 13:47Callahan makes. The command make disciples is
- 13:50grammatically plural. It's given to the church as a
- 13:53body, not just a gifted individuals.
- 13:55So what does that mean for things like mission agencies or
- 13:59pair church organizations? Well, the source argues that
- 14:01while they are often very helpful and do great work, they
- 14:04are not the bride of Christ. Their assistants, not the
- 14:06primary agent. That's a good way to put it.
- 14:08Jesus promised to build his church, not a mission agency, So
- 14:12the ultimate goal of missions isn't just to set up a mission
- 14:15station or a distinct ministry hub.
- 14:17The goal is to plant churches. To plant full orbed healthy
- 14:20local churches that will in time become sending churches
- 14:24themselves. The goal is reproduction of the
- 14:27church, not just the expansion of an organization.
- 14:29But what about? When that seems impossible, I
- 14:31mean, let's be real. There are nations today that are
- 14:33close to the gospel. They actively ban missionaries.
- 14:36If you go, you risk arrest, prison, or even worse.
- 14:40And I think this is where the source is most challenging to
- 14:43our modern safety first sensibilities.
- 14:45For sure. The analysis here goes straight
- 14:47back to the apostles in Acts 5.29.
- 14:50We must obey God rather than men.
- 14:53So political barriers don't count.
- 14:55The sources argument is that political barriers do not
- 14:57nullify the command of the king of the cosmos.
- 15:00The church cannot simply accept that there are no go zones for
- 15:04the gospel. We can't just shrug and say,
- 15:07well, their government said no. Which circles right back to that
- 15:10initial point about authority, if Jesus truly has all authority
- 15:13in heaven and on earth. Then he has authority over those
- 15:16hostile governments too. Your laws do not supersede his
- 15:20Commission. And that leads right into this
- 15:22whole discussion on the necessity of physical presence.
- 15:24This is a huge topic for us today in our digital age.
- 15:27A massive topic. Can we fulfill the Great
- 15:29Commission over Zoom? Can we have a virtual church?
- 15:32And Callahan is, well, he's pretty savage about this.
- 15:35He has a line where he says screens literally screen out
- 15:38parts of life. He does, and if you think about
- 15:41it practically, it makes sense. Discipleship, as we're about to
- 15:45see with Foley section, requires observing a person's life up
- 15:49close. You have to see their reactions,
- 15:51their character under pressure. All the things you can't see on
- 15:54the screen. You can hide a lot of sin behind
- 15:56a webcam. You can curate your online image
- 15:59to look perfectly pious. But you can't hide for long when
- 16:02someone is doing life with you. Exactly.
- 16:05Real discipleship requires life on life observation.
- 16:09So the source's conclusion is blunt.
- 16:11If you can physically go, you must go.
- 16:14Online communication can be a useful tool, but it is not and
- 16:17can never be a substitute for going.
- 16:20He says virtual presence is, in a very real sense, absence, yes.
- 16:24And that's a heavy conviction for our digitally saturated
- 16:26church to sit with. It really is so OK if we accept
- 16:30the authority, the grammar, the mandate to physically go, what
- 16:34do we actually do when we get there?
- 16:35What does this life on life discipleship look like?
- 16:38And that brings us perfectly into the second source, Philip F
- 16:41Foley's analysis on practical strategy.
- 16:43He breaks it down into 5 essentials.
- 16:45Right. And Foley starts with the aim,
- 16:47the whole point of the process. He gets it from Matthew 10.25.
- 16:53It is enough for the disciple that he become like his teacher.
- 16:56So we're not just transferring data, we're not just downloading
- 16:58information into someone's brain, no.
- 17:00We are aiming for the replication of Christ like
- 17:03character. That's the goal.
- 17:04OK, so let's run through these five essentials he lays out.
- 17:07Number one is convictions. Convictions are about teaching
- 17:11truth in a way that it applies directly to life.
- 17:15It's not enough for someone to just know the doctrine of
- 17:17justification, they have to know how that truth changes the way
- 17:21they respond when their boss criticizes them.
- 17:24So it's doctrine made practical. Yes, and Foley makes a really
- 17:27interesting point here about adaptability.
- 17:29How so? In a highly literate culture
- 17:32like the US, for example, a book study or a systematic class
- 17:36might work really well for teaching convictions, but what
- 17:39about in an oral culture or with people who are illiterate?
- 17:42You can't just hand them a book. You can't.
- 17:45You need informal life on life mentorship.
- 17:48You have to walk with them like Jesus did with his disciples,
- 17:51and teach from the circumstances you encounter together on the
- 17:54road. That flows right into his second
- 17:56essential character, and Foley says this is the hardest part to
- 18:00teach. By far the hardest because you
- 18:02cannot teach character from a podium or a textbook.
- 18:06The disciple has to see the mentor's life when things go
- 18:10wrong. It's caught more than it's
- 18:11taught. That's a good way to put it.
- 18:14The disciple needs to see how you handle a flat tire, how you
- 18:17respond to a personal insult, how you grieve A tragedy.
- 18:20That's where character is forged and demonstrated.
- 18:23And the source mentions a specific challenge here, the
- 18:25honor shame dynamic. That was fascinating.
- 18:28It's a huge barrier in many cultures.
- 18:30The idea that admitting you have a weakness or a struggles is
- 18:33deeply shameful. So if a disciple is struggling
- 18:35with a particular sin, their instinct is to hide it to save
- 18:38face. Which of course destroys any
- 18:40real discipleship. It kills it.
- 18:42You can't heal what you hide. So Foley's advice is that the
- 18:45mentor has to be the one to break that barrier.
- 18:48The mentor must confess their own sins and struggles first.
- 18:51So the leader has to model vulnerability.
- 18:54The leader has to model what it looks like to rely on grace when
- 18:58the mentor says. I really struggled with anger
- 19:00yesterday, and here's how I had to go to the Lord with it.
- 19:04It gives the disciple permission to be honest about their own
- 19:06brokenness. That's so powerful it just
- 19:08levels the playing field. We're all sinners at the foot of
- 19:11the cross, saved by grace. Exact.
- 19:13OK, so after convictions and character #3 is competence.
- 19:18Competence is about developing faithfulness in practical areas.
- 19:21Foley roots this in Luke 16.10. Being faithful in the small
- 19:25things. So you don't just hand someone
- 19:27the keys to the church on day one, no.
- 19:29The method is simple, assign a task, maybe it's something small
- 19:33like organizing the chairs or reading a scripture in the
- 19:35service. Then you observe them and after,
- 19:39and this is the key part, you give them constructive critique
- 19:41a. Feedback loop.
- 19:43It's a feedback loop of assignment, observation,
- 19:45critique, and encouragement. That's how competence is built
- 19:50over time. #4 is care. This is the relational glue that
- 19:54holds it all together. Foley cites First Thessalonians
- 19:562.8, where Paul tells the church he was delighted to share not
- 20:00only the gospel of God, but his own life as well, because they'd
- 20:02become so dear to him. So it's not just a program.
- 20:05It can't be. Discipleship that is just a data
- 20:08transfer, is cold and sterile. It has to be fueled by genuine
- 20:12affection and care. It's about asking personal
- 20:15questions. It's about demonstrating love in
- 20:18tangible ways. And that leads to the final
- 20:20essential #5 reproduction. The cycle has to continue.
- 20:25A disciple is not a dead end. They're supposed to become a
- 20:27conduit. The goal is for every disciple
- 20:30to eventually become a disciple. And Foley notes that age can be
- 20:33a real barrier here. It can.
- 20:34In many cultures, age automatically equals authority.
- 20:39So how does a young disciple lead or teach older believers?
- 20:42He points to Timothy, right? Yes, the classic example.
- 20:46Timothy was young, and apparently some people look down
- 20:48on him for it. But Paul told him to silence the
- 20:51critics, not by arguing, but by setting an example for the
- 20:54believers in his speech, in his conduct in love, in faith and
- 20:59impurity. His godliness gave him the
- 21:01spiritual weight that his age lacked.
- 21:03Precisely. His character was his authority.
- 21:06So when we pull all of this together, Callahan's exegesis
- 21:09and Foley strategy, we get a very robust, very challenging
- 21:13picture of the church's mission. You really do.
- 21:16You start with the cosmic authority of Jesus, an authority
- 21:19that's rooted in the prophecy of Daniel 7.
- 21:22You obey the specific grammar of the text.
- 21:25A single command to make disciples carried out by going,
- 21:28baptizing, and teaching. You do this in the context of
- 21:31the local church, with the goal of planting more local churches.
- 21:34And the method you use on the ground is this deep personal
- 21:37life on life mentorship that builds convictions, character,
- 21:41competence, care, and ultimately reproduction.
- 21:44And it's impossible to miss the cost involved in all of this.
- 21:46I mean, neither source makes this sound easy.
- 21:49No, not at all. It's the opposite of easy.
- 21:51It involves the real risk of physical danger in hostile
- 21:54nations. It involves the hard emotional
- 21:57labor of walking through people's messy lives in
- 21:59discipleship. And it involves the sacrifice of
- 22:02your own self-interest. You have to apply Philippians
- 22:04too and consider others more significant than yourself.
- 22:07It is a heavy, costly call. It is, but as Callahan argued at
- 22:11the very beginning, it is the only call the church.
- 22:14Has It's the one and only mission that matters.
- 22:16You know, before we wrap up, I want to leave our listeners with
- 22:19a thought that really struck me while reading that section on
- 22:22virtual going. If the source is right, if
- 22:26virtual going is not really going at all, and if screens are
- 22:30so good at hiding sin, what does that say about how many of us,
- 22:34even those of us who aren't on a foreign mission field, are
- 22:38trying to grow spiritually? That's a great question.
- 22:41I mean, if our primary spiritual diet consists of digital
- 22:44content, you know, podcasts like this one, YouTube sermons,
- 22:47Instagram theologians, are we actually being discipled or are
- 22:51we just consuming religious information?
- 22:53And there's a world of difference between those two
- 22:56things. Information is not formation.
- 22:58Yeah, you can't get called out on your SIN by a download,
- 23:01right? You need a person, someone
- 23:03looking you in the eye who knows your life and who has earned the
- 23:07right to call you to holiness. You just you can't get that from
- 23:10a screen. You can't.
- 23:11It's a sobering thought. It is something for all of us to
- 23:14chew on. I would really encourage you the
- 23:16next time you open your Bible, flip to Matthew 28, but keep
- 23:20your finger in Daniel 7. Read them together and see how
- 23:23the King's authority changes the weight of his command.
- 23:26It changes everything. Thanks for joining us on
- 23:28Reformed Thinking We'll. See you next time.