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Ruby Franke /Jodi Hildebrandt Love Relationship? Daughter Tells All · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, so called mommy vlogger turned
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  Speaker 1: convicted child abuser Ruby Frankie new claims, Oh my goodness,
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  Speaker 1: does it never end with her and her buddy Hildebrant.
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  Speaker 1: The Ruby Frankie prosecutor claims investigators quote questioned the influencer
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  Speaker 1: mom's relationship with Jody Hildebrant. The husband tells cops the
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  Speaker 1: two were sleeping in the same bed. Who cares if.
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  Speaker 2: The two women were having an affair. I don't care.
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  Speaker 2: I care what happened to the children.
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  Speaker 1: And there's more. Bombshell claims in the case. I'm Nancy Grace,
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  Speaker 1: this is crime Stories. Thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 1: Let's just get it out there. The prosecutor on the
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  Speaker 1: case of convicted mommy vlogger Ruby Frankie questioned the relationship
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  Speaker 1: she had with business partner Jody Hildebrant.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so they slept in the same bed. Does that
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  Speaker 2: change anything about this case?
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  Speaker 1: Apparently it's all revealed by Ruby Frankie's daughter, who caught mom,
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  Speaker 1: if you can call her that, Ruby Frankie with another
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  Speaker 1: child abuse her, Jody Hildebrant. According to the daughter, of
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  Speaker 1: course now estranged. Bombshell new memoir is called In the
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  Speaker 1: House of My Mother, A Daughter's Quest for Freedom. Shery Frankie,
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  Speaker 1: now twenty one, describes discovering the truth about her mom's relationship.
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  Speaker 1: Now getting this part. While Frankie and Hildebrant condemned gay
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  Speaker 1: people to their millions of followers, according to the daughter,
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  Speaker 1: Hildebrant's friendship with the Mormon mom of six, Ruby Frankie,
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  Speaker 1: while it started as business, quickly turned to sex. According
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  Speaker 1: to the daughter Sherry, others were told the upstairs to
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  Speaker 1: the home was quote off limits, including to the husband, Kevin.
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  Speaker 1: He could leave the house whenever he wanted to, says
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  Speaker 1: the daughter, but he couldn't come back without Ruby Frankie's permission.
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  Speaker 3: Ooh.
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  Speaker 1: Even access to the kitchen for meals required her Ruby
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  Speaker 1: Frankie's approval. Before long, Ruby Frankie, according to the daughter,
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  Speaker 1: had moved into Jody Hildebrant's room from the marital bedroom.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 1: According to Jody Frankie's daughter, Hildebrandt had very detailed visions,
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  Speaker 1: including some where she says she saw Ruby Frankie walking
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  Speaker 1: on the water beside Christ Okay, now I'm getting mad,
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  Speaker 1: and others. Hildebrant apparently envisioned herself writing a massive li
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  Speaker 1: lion named Charles through the gates of Heaven. Okay, you
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  Speaker 1: know I've said a million times, Lord, I will be
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  Speaker 1: happy just to be a little mouse in the corner.
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  Speaker 1: Please let me into heaven. Apparently this one's gonna ride
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  Speaker 1: through the Heaven's gates on a lion named Charles. The
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  Speaker 1: two that would be Jody Hildebrant and Ruby Frankie spent
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  Speaker 1: an incredible amount of time quote hunker down in their
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  Speaker 1: upstairs sanctuary, leaving to take shopping trips to Mexico, returning
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  Speaker 1: with bags full of pills. I don't know what that's about.
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  Speaker 1: All I care about is whether the children were abused
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  Speaker 1: and starved, and according to a court of law, they were.
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  Speaker 1: Hilda Brant and Frankie sitting behind bars. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: why so much focus is on whether the two had
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  Speaker 1: a sex relationship, but I find it highly ironic that
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  Speaker 1: these two condemned gay people and their lifestyle, while, according
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  Speaker 1: to the daughter, that was their lifestyle. Why is everyone
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  Speaker 1: so worried about who other people are sleeping with. It's
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  Speaker 1: all I can do to keep my car in the
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  Speaker 1: middle of the road. Can we talk about the facts
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  Speaker 1: of the case. Please let me remind everyone what happened
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  Speaker 1: to these children.
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  Speaker 2: Let's kick it off with our friends at ABC.
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  Speaker 4: Arrest documents saying the child escaped to a neighbor's home.
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  Speaker 4: The twelve year old child described by that neighbor in
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  Speaker 4: a phone call to police as emaciated and malnourished with
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  Speaker 4: open wounds. Core documents also describing deep lacerations from being
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  Speaker 4: tied up with a rope.
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  Speaker 5: About the thing that or back at the Homer's bum.
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  Speaker 6: Police say they also found Frankie's ten year old daughter malnourished.
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  Speaker 6: Frankie is known for her strict parenting advice to millions
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  Speaker 6: of TikTok and YouTube followers.
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  Speaker 7: Police say a clearly malnourished twelve year old child crawled
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  Speaker 7: out of the window of Hildebrand's Ivans Area home. A
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  Speaker 7: neighbor called nine one one when he showed up at
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  Speaker 7: their house asking for food and water. Officers his wrists
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  Speaker 7: were duct taped. He had wounds for being tied up
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  Speaker 7: across his body. Investigators say they found a ten year
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  Speaker 7: old girl inside the same house who was also wellnourished.
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  Speaker 1: And also hearing our friends at KSL so we have
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  Speaker 1: at least one child who had apparently just turned twelve,
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  Speaker 1: crawling out the window of the family home starved.
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  Speaker 2: And believe you me, if you haven't ever seen it,
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  Speaker 2: I hope you never do.
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  Speaker 1: I pray to God you never do, because when you
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  Speaker 1: see a child that has been starved as I have, it's.
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  Speaker 2: Something you never forget.
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  Speaker 1: I remember when I was going to South Carolina just
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  Speaker 1: recently to cover the Alex Mardock double murder trial. I
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  Speaker 1: passed a yard and there was a dog tied up
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  Speaker 1: in the front yard to a stake, and I could
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  Speaker 1: see the dog ribs, and it reminds me when I
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  Speaker 1: went to Aruba with Natalie Holloway's mother just recently, tried
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  Speaker 1: to turn up new evidence far at the end of
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  Speaker 1: the island where the lighthouse is. There was a pack
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  Speaker 1: of dogs, maybe four or five of them, that kept
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  Speaker 1: coming up to us, chasing after us, and they looked
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  Speaker 1: like skeletons that their ribs were poking out, and it
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  Speaker 1: just I thought about them over and over and over,
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  Speaker 1: and when you see a child with their ribs poking out,
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  Speaker 1: clearly emaciated, I can't even get the dogs out of
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  Speaker 1: my mind, much less the children that I saw that
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  Speaker 1: way as a prosecutor, and not just once, over and
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  Speaker 1: over and over food deprivation, starving your child. I think
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  Speaker 1: about this twelve year old little boy to the where
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  Speaker 1: he crawls out the window and goes to a neighbor
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  Speaker 1: asking for food, and the neighbor sees lacerations, lacerations for
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  Speaker 1: the child has been tied up. And then we learn
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  Speaker 1: that there's another child in the home, a ten year
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  Speaker 1: old little girl with the same lacerations, mal nutrition, malnourished
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  Speaker 1: living in that home.
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  Speaker 2: Who and the hell is the mommy?
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  Speaker 1: Who and the hell is the dad that would do
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  Speaker 1: this to their children? Well, I hope you're sitting down,
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  Speaker 1: take a listen to our friends at GMA.
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  Speaker 6: A Utah mom influencer arrested facing six felony counts of
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  Speaker 6: aggravated child abuse for the first time, we're hearing emergency
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  Speaker 6: responders as you see one of Ruby Frankie's children after
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  Speaker 6: he allegedly escaped through a window.
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  Speaker 5: And now that's how don Fa Brown to each uncle
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  Speaker 5: he's not telling up the right and said that he
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  Speaker 5: stores around his with an ankle. He's becoming he's becoming
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  Speaker 5: emotional regarding the child health I'm glad to have.
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  Speaker 1: With me an all star panel to make sense of
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  Speaker 1: what we know right now. But first someone to go
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  Speaker 1: to investigative reporter with KSL dot com out of Utah.
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  Speaker 2: Emily Ashcraft is with us. Emily, thank you for being
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  Speaker 2: with us. Who is this woman?
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  Speaker 1: And we're hearing a lot about the mom, but as
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  Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, the father hen goes straight to
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  Speaker 1: hell too.
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  Speaker 2: But first tell me who is she?
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  Speaker 8: She is a family YouTuber blogger and the family, actually
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  Speaker 8: it's it's YouTube channel faded out or stopped recently and
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  Speaker 8: she started up another YouTube channel as a counselor instead
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  Speaker 8: of a mom.
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  Speaker 2: What is eight Passengers?
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  Speaker 8: So that's the family's YouTube channel, and you know she
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  Speaker 8: said in an article KSL wrote years ago that she
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  Speaker 8: started the channel because she wanted other moms who were
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  Speaker 8: kind of starting out with infants to see what it's
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  Speaker 8: like to have kids that are getting older. Kind of
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  Speaker 8: the rewards of motherhood is what she wanted to show
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  Speaker 8: off in her in the eight Passengers YouTube channel.
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  Speaker 1: Ruby Ranky YouTuber mom of six Ruby Rankie.
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  Speaker 2: F R A n k E. How many followers?
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  Speaker 1: I understand over two point two million subscribers to eight
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  Speaker 1: passengers channel.
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  Speaker 8: That's the numbers that I've seen as well.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, who in the hay is drinking the kool aid?
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  Speaker 1: That's what I want to know, And I want to
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  Speaker 1: go now to Donna Kelly, former Utah Senior Deputy District
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  Speaker 1: attorney and lawyer for crime Victim's Legal Clinic. Donna, thank
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  Speaker 1: you for being with us. And I've seen this over
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  Speaker 1: and over and over. It's not just a story. It's
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  Speaker 1: not something we're reporting on. It's not some fiction or
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  Speaker 1: TV made for TV movie. Not only do you have
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  Speaker 1: the parents abusing the child horribly, but people around them,
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  Speaker 1: they know what's happening, and.
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  Speaker 2: They do nothing. What is wrong with these people?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's not as if this just happened and
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  Speaker 1: they suddenly see, oh, the child has bruises all over
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  Speaker 1: their arms. That's suspicious. They're starved. They're starved. That takes
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  Speaker 1: a long period.
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  Speaker 2: Of time, Donna Kelly, and nobody noticed.
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  Speaker 9: Yes it does.
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  Speaker 10: And unfortunately, many abusers are have the mindset that they
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  Speaker 10: work hard at portraying themselves as you know, the good parent,
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  Speaker 10: the parent you go to when you need advice. That
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  Speaker 10: type of thing is not uncommon, and so that appears
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  Speaker 10: to be what's going on here is that this particular
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  Speaker 10: set of parents decided that they were going to portray
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  Speaker 10: themselves as the ideal parent and put that out there
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  Speaker 10: to the world, and apparently a lot, at least two
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  Speaker 10: point two million people.
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  Speaker 9: Were fooled.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, I just want you to hear something. Take a
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  Speaker 1: listen to our friends at Fox thirteen.
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  Speaker 11: Independent journalist and YouTuber Katie Paulson tracks child abuse cases.
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  Speaker 11: She says Frankie's YouTube channel eight passengers caught her attention
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  Speaker 11: and she was.
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  Speaker 12: Saying how she would send her daughter to school with
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  Speaker 12: no food, and it was almost like she was bragging
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  Speaker 12: about it.
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  Speaker 11: She recalls another time when Frankie's son openly talked about
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  Speaker 11: his punishment on the channel.
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  Speaker 12: He was talking about how he had been sleeping on
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  Speaker 12: the floor on a bean bag chair and how his
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  Speaker 12: mom had taken away his bed and has taken away
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  Speaker 12: his door.
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  Speaker 1: That child had to sleep on a beanbank chair for
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  Speaker 1: seven plus months for pulling a prank on his brother,
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  Speaker 1: A prank, i might add, that didn't even cause any
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  Speaker 1: physical harm. What he did was he told the brother
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  Speaker 1: they were going to Disneyland the next morning, and the
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  Speaker 1: brother got up and packed, put on his sunglasses and
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  Speaker 1: was ready to go.
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  Speaker 2: It was a joe. They didn't go to Disneyland. That
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  Speaker 2: was the frank.
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  Speaker 3: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 1: Bombshell claims that Ruby Frankie had a steamy affair with
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  Speaker 1: her fellow abuser.
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  Speaker 2: Jody Hildebrant.
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  Speaker 1: The two can think about that behind bars, and FYI
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  Speaker 1: don't care. I care about the horrific child abuse inflicted
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  Speaker 1: on these children.
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  Speaker 2: Reality check. This is what happened here. We've got a
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  Speaker 2: mom starving the children.
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  Speaker 1: And bragging about it online. But I also don't understand.
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  Speaker 1: To doctor Dana Anderson, forensic psychologist and consultant, you can
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  Speaker 1: find her at psychologydoctor dot com. She's bad enough, But
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  Speaker 1: who are the two point two million people that tune
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  Speaker 1: in to watch her gibberish?
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  Speaker 13: Well, I can tell you I certainly wasn't tuning in.
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  Speaker 13: I've never even heard of Ruby frank until this came up.
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  Speaker 13: But what's more, deplorables her sidekick, Jody Hildebrandt, who's a
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  Speaker 13: license professional, who's observing this the whole time.
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  Speaker 1: Two point two million people are following this witch straight
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  Speaker 1: from hell. I want you to hear more of what
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  Speaker 1: we have learned. Take a listen to our friends at
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  Speaker 1: Fox thirteen.
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  Speaker 11: Diane Nevins remembers being horrified at what she was watching
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  Speaker 11: on YouTube.
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  Speaker 14: It was kind of like every video there was something
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  Speaker 14: to be shocked about.
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  Speaker 3: Her son couldn't.
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  Speaker 13: Walk for until he was like two and a half
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  Speaker 13: years old, and she never got him any help.
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  Speaker 1: And she admitted that she had a one point he'd
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  Speaker 1: fallen off the couch or she dropped him.
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  Speaker 15: He had gotten no no physical therapy anything.
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  Speaker 11: Nevin says when she commented her concerns, she was blocked
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  Speaker 11: by Frankie.
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  Speaker 1: What exactly to Emily Ashcroff, joining US investigative reporter for
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  Speaker 1: KSL dot com, what was found in the home? After
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  Speaker 1: the neighbor has to call nine one one when she
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  Speaker 1: gets a twelve year old little boy who says his
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  Speaker 1: ten year old sisters inside of the same injuries starved,
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  Speaker 1: starved and covered in lacerations showing the child had been
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  Speaker 1: tied up.
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  Speaker 2: What they cops fired When.
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  Speaker 8: They go inside, they found a second child and the
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  Speaker 8: two youngest children in the family were both so starved.
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  Speaker 8: The one that didn't crawl out and initially refused medical care,
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  Speaker 8: but they after interacting with her for a while. They
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  Speaker 8: kind of said let's go to the hospital as well,
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  Speaker 8: and both of the women were churched with six counts,
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  Speaker 8: three for each child of aggravated child abuse.
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  Speaker 1: Authorities say that both children were described as quote their words,
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  Speaker 1: not mine, emaciated and malnourished, with open wounds and duck
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  Speaker 1: tapes around the extremities, begging for food and water, begging
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  Speaker 1: for food and water. And this woman, this woman actually
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  Speaker 1: has a YouTube channel where she dispenses advice. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: imagining the inside of that home and how the children
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  Speaker 1: were bound with duct tape and apparently their skin was
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  Speaker 1: burned with ropes having tied them up. What kind of
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  Speaker 1: mothering and fathering is that? It brings to mind the
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  Speaker 1: so called House of Horrors. Yes, the evil Turpin parents.
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  Speaker 1: Their daughter crawled out of the house out of a
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  Speaker 1: window and ran to call nine one one to save
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  Speaker 1: her brothers and sisters. They were found in the same
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  Speaker 1: exact condition. Take a listen to our cut thirty five.
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  Speaker 1: Our friends at ac GTN.
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  Speaker 16: Officials say when they entered the Turpin home they found
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  Speaker 16: a modern day horre, foul smell, extremely dirty conditions and
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  Speaker 16: they say it was immediately clear that the siblings were malnourished.
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  Speaker 16: Authorities say they found three of the children shackled to
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  Speaker 16: their beds with chains and padlocks, kept in dark and
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  Speaker 16: unclean conditions inside this Riverside County, California home. Deputies located
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  Speaker 16: twelve children inside the house as young as two years old.
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  Speaker 1: And upon further investigation, when authorities went to their last
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  Speaker 1: home where the Turpins lived, they found claw marks on
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  Speaker 1: the inside of closet doors where children had tried to
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  Speaker 1: claw their way out. And listened to this nine to
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  Speaker 1: one one calling our cut thirty six. This is a
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  Speaker 1: Turpin child that crawled out the window much like this
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  Speaker 1: influence sir as child did.
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  Speaker 17: Okay, I'm live in a family of fifteen people, and
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  Speaker 17: my parents are abusin abused us. And my two little
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  Speaker 17: sisters right now are changed up.
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  Speaker 14: And how many of your siblings are tied up too?
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  Speaker 17: Of my sisters one of my brothers.
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  Speaker 2: How are they tied it up with Rome or with.
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  Speaker 14: What it's king?
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  Speaker 17: They're changed up to their bed?
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  Speaker 1: Guys, also, I can't forget the case a Jennifer wolfthaal
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  Speaker 1: take a listener, cut thirty four. Our friend Stephen Howling
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  Speaker 1: over at people dot.
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  Speaker 18: Com According to an arrest report obtained by WFTV, wolf
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  Speaker 18: Thal was arrested that time after her husband arrived at
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  Speaker 18: the hospital with their eight year old daughter, who suffered
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  Speaker 18: from conditions including pneumonia, a staph infection, and liver failure.
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  Speaker 18: Authority say the girl was also malnourished and had multiple bruises,
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  Speaker 18: a skin infection, and several open wounds. Wolf Thal is
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  Speaker 18: the author of the children's book A Real Friend. It
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  Speaker 18: has been removed from sale by its publisher.
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  Speaker 1: See the connection I'm making our there. You've got this
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  Speaker 1: woman who is an influencer who has a YouTube channel
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  Speaker 1: about parenting. She has mistreated and abused her children. They're starving,
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  Speaker 1: they're tied up with duct tape. When cots get there,
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  Speaker 1: they still have duct tape on their extremities.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like they have rope burns.
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  Speaker 1: And they're begging for food and water, having to climb
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  Speaker 1: out the window to get to a phone to call
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  Speaker 1: nine to one one, begging neighbors to give them something
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  Speaker 1: to eat. And here is this book author who has
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  Speaker 1: her child covered in bruises, with skin infections, open wounds.
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  Speaker 1: You know what makes Ruby different from the Turpin mob.
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  Speaker 1: Ruby Frankie is glamorous. Yeah, she has this YouTube channel
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  Speaker 1: and boys, she making the most of it. Guys, I
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  Speaker 1: want you to take a listen to doctor free Has
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  Speaker 1: joining us pediatrician, pediatric emergency medicine expert, child safety expert.
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  Speaker 1: And you can find doctor free has at pdmom dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Let me spell that doesn't look like it sounds. It's
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  Speaker 1: like pediatrician p as in Peter E.
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  Speaker 2: D as in.
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  Speaker 1: Daffodil I p ed imom dot com. Doctor free has,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. What this woman has
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  Speaker 1: is hair and makeup. That's what makes her different from
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  Speaker 1: the Turpin family or the other mom. They're all builds
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  Speaker 1: a up straight from hell. They're the devil's minions.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah, and that's actually a very big misconception that a
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  Speaker 14: lot of people have about abusers, child abusers specifically. I
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  Speaker 14: think a lot of people have in their mind that
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  Speaker 14: it's only a certain type of person that can do
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  Speaker 14: these types of evil things to children, and it's not.
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  Speaker 14: It can literally be anybody.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you think you know your neighbor, You
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  Speaker 1: think you know all about what's going on in your neighborhood.
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  Speaker 1: These shouldren are being starved in their own home, assaulted,
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  Speaker 1: tied up with ropes and with duct tape that we
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  Speaker 1: know of based on the evidence we're hearing so far,
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  Speaker 1: and nobody did a thing, and people kept watching this
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  Speaker 1: woman online. Jason Jensen joining me Salt Lake City, Utah,
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  Speaker 1: private investigator, owner of Jensen Private Investigations, co founder of
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  Speaker 1: the Cold Case Coalition, and you can find them at
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  Speaker 1: Jensen Private Investigations dot com. This is in your neck
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  Speaker 1: of the woods.
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  Speaker 19: What do you have to say, Well, Nancy, there's a
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  Speaker 19: lot that can be said here. It's interesting that you know,
• 20:39
  Speaker 19: the outer image that was being portrayed, you know, like
• 20:42
  Speaker 19: you describer Glamour's mom raising six kids, wants to show
• 20:48
  Speaker 19: off to the world how to do it right. Well,
• 20:52
  Speaker 19: you know that seems to really have like a Mormon
• 20:57
  Speaker 19: household style image oftentimes in the church. Here in our community,
• 21:03
  Speaker 19: they tried to portray to the world a model style
• 21:08
  Speaker 19: of raising a family, and unfortunately this lady took matters way.
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  Speaker 9: To the extreme. We're not just showing like discipline online,
• 21:19
  Speaker 9: but goes to the extreme of child abuse.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: Jason Jensen, isn't it true that your children have actually
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: watched this woman's YouTube channel?
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: What did they think?
• 21:29
  Speaker 9: Yes, Nancy. Actually, my two kids were the ones that
• 21:32
  Speaker 9: brought Ruby Frankie to my attention because years ago, when
• 21:37
  Speaker 9: they were younger, they watched and enjoyed the channel, and
• 21:41
  Speaker 9: sometimes they got a kick out of it because she
• 21:44
  Speaker 9: was such a gruff parent. She was always harsh on them,
• 21:49
  Speaker 9: and it kind of gave them the impression that she
• 21:53
  Speaker 9: was a disciplinary And what both of my kids said
• 21:58
  Speaker 9: is pertaining to the two younger kids this subject the
• 22:02
  Speaker 9: victims of this recent arrest is they said they could
• 22:07
  Speaker 9: tell mom did not like these two kids very well.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Guys, when someone did try to speak out against Ruby Frankie,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: take a listen to what happened in our cut seventeen
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  Speaker 1: Fox thirteen.
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  Speaker 11: Paulson also saying when she did a report on what
• 22:23
  Speaker 11: Frankie and her kids were seeing in the videos, she
• 22:26
  Speaker 11: was threatened to be sued. She forwarded me an email
• 22:28
  Speaker 11: from Frankie's lawyer sent in twenty twenty that says, in part,
• 22:32
  Speaker 11: we represent the family blog Channel Eat passengers who continue
• 22:35
  Speaker 11: to be harmed by defamatory videos uploaded to YouTube by
• 22:38
  Speaker 11: your client, and saying it resulted in a baseless visit
• 22:41
  Speaker 11: by Child Protective Services.
• 22:43
  Speaker 12: They always say if you see something, say something, and
• 22:47
  Speaker 12: in this case, when people said something, they were threatened.
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  Speaker 2: Let me understand something.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Emily Ashcroft, joining us from KSL Child Protective Services went
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: to the hall even though now Frankie is climbing. That
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: was basic and what they found nothing. They couldn't tell
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: anything was going on.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, they went to the home to talk about those
• 23:06
  Speaker 8: claims that you brought up in videos. It was clear
• 23:08
  Speaker 8: that she sent a child to school without lunch and
• 23:11
  Speaker 8: had a child sleeping on a bean bag, and so
• 23:13
  Speaker 8: they went to investigate those and that that didn't lead
• 23:17
  Speaker 8: to any charges at that point. You know its red flags,
• 23:21
  Speaker 8: but I guess not res activity.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: I watched it.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: She brags about with hoolding food from her children.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: How is that? Okay?
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Take a Lisnower cut twenty two. This is Ruby Frankie
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: in eight passengers.
• 23:36
  Speaker 20: Russell got the big bedroom and Chick got the smaller bedroom.
• 23:40
  Speaker 20: And Russell's bigger bedroom also had a bathroom.
• 23:42
  Speaker 8: But what you guys didn't know was didn't get any room.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: He didn't, he didn't get anything.
• 23:48
  Speaker 10: He was sleeping on the floor in the family room.
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: Abby.
• 23:51
  Speaker 20: We took the phone away from Abby in November and
• 23:57
  Speaker 20: you may never get the phone back.
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  Speaker 9: Totally.
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  Speaker 2: Not kids are literally starving.
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  Speaker 20: I hesitate to say this because it's going to sound.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Like I'm like a mean barbarian.
• 24:05
  Speaker 20: But I told the kids, I said, I'm not even
• 24:07
  Speaker 20: gonna let you eat breakfast until you get your chores done.
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: It's not just that she's withholding food, and it's not
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: just because they didn't do chores one morning before school.
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  Speaker 2: It's all the time.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: You don't get to a point of starvation when you
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: occasionally skip breakfast. Isn't that true, doctor free hes pediatrician.
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  Speaker 14: Yeah. Absolutely. You don't get the misfeeded by missing a
• 24:34
  Speaker 14: meal or two here or there, and you don't appear
• 24:38
  Speaker 14: to be that to outside people unless you're missing a
• 24:41
  Speaker 14: substantial amount of meals and nutrition, which can then lead
• 24:45
  Speaker 14: to a whole host of other things that unfortunately, these
• 24:47
  Speaker 14: kids may have to deal with.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: So in one fell sweet we hear about with holding
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: food until chores are done in the morning, not give
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: one child.
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: A place to sleep. But there's a certain amount of bragging.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Of bravado, of joeviality, of cheer, and the way she
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: describes how she's treating her children and what everybody just
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: stands by and lifts it up.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Why they're a big at the trough.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: Take a listen hour cut twenty four more of Ruby Frankie.
• 25:25
  Speaker 15: I just got a text message from Eve's teacher and
• 25:29
  Speaker 15: she said that Eve did not pack a lunch today
• 25:32
  Speaker 15: and can I bring a lunch over to the school.
• 25:34
  Speaker 15: This happens quite often when you're having raising children, because
• 25:39
  Speaker 15: I know that her teacher is uncomfortable with her being
• 25:43
  Speaker 15: hungry and not having a lunch, and it would ease
• 25:46
  Speaker 15: her discomfort if I came to the school with lunch.
• 25:49
  Speaker 15: But I responded and just said Eve is responsible for
• 25:52
  Speaker 15: making her lunches in the morning, and she actually told
• 25:55
  Speaker 15: me she did pack a lunch. So the natural outcome
• 25:58
  Speaker 15: is she's just going to me to be hungry and
• 26:01
  Speaker 15: hopefully nobody gives her food, and nobody stepped in and
• 26:04
  Speaker 15: gives her a lunch.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: And isn't it true that at that time, Emily Ashcroft
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: ksl this little girl was only six years old.
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  Speaker 8: That's what I saw is this is a you know,
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: first grader, just you know, first year. She's bringing food
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: to food to school probably and the later the mom said,
• 26:25
  Speaker 8: you know, justifying it. After after child protective services were
• 26:29
  Speaker 8: called she said, you know it was I didn't learn
• 26:32
  Speaker 8: until two hours before the end of school, and it
• 26:34
  Speaker 8: was a forty five minute drive, so getting it to her.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Really, because that's not what she said in her blood gratitude.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: She said it was because the child didn't the six
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: year old girl did not pack her own lunch.
• 26:46
  Speaker 14: Changed said that.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: She knew it would ease the teacher's discomfort if her
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: child had food.
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: What about the child? What about the child's discomfort? That's
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: not all.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Take a listen to our cuts twenty seven and twenty
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: eight more of Ruby Frankie.
• 27:02
  Speaker 20: Kevin and I we have six children. The two youngest
• 27:07
  Speaker 20: are showing long patterns of selfishness. They have been showing
• 27:11
  Speaker 20: through their choices, their unwillingness to repent, their unwillingness to
• 27:16
  Speaker 20: feel sorrow over some pretty egregious choices.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: That they've made.
• 27:20
  Speaker 20: So Kevin and I have decided that we are going
• 27:23
  Speaker 20: to give the gift of truth to them this year
• 27:26
  Speaker 20: for Christmas. We are having to give them the gift
• 27:29
  Speaker 20: of boundaries, and we're going to give them the gift
• 27:31
  Speaker 20: of repentance. So we sat down with them and we
• 27:36
  Speaker 20: let them know how deeply sorrowful we've been because of
• 27:40
  Speaker 20: the choices that they have been making and how it's
• 27:42
  Speaker 20: affected their teachers at school, it's affected their peers, it's
• 27:46
  Speaker 20: affected our home. The siblings, we just laid it out
• 27:50
  Speaker 20: very clear and we told them that this year they
• 27:55
  Speaker 20: are not going to be visited by Santa.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Ruby Frankie's children speak out. Frankie convicted felon for horribly
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: abusing and starving her children. Her children's slamming quote unethical
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: family vlogging, saying they will not follow in their mother's footsteps.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: According to her oldest son, Chad, this is him speaking
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: on Good Morning America. I eventually want to have a family,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: and I've learned from my mom's mistakes.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: These poor children will.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Be haunted forever by their mother and her henchperson Minion
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: from Hell, Jodie Hildebrandt's abuse of them, and I would
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: like to add, following her children speaking out, that Utah
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: has added protections for child influencers following Ruby Frankie's child
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: abuse conviction. That's right, a state legislature actually does something worthwhile.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: A few tuesdays ago, Utah adds new protections for the
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: children of online content Creators. Governor Spencer Cox signed the
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: law giving adults a path to scrub from all platforms
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: digital content they were featured in as miners, and it
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: requires parents to set aside money for their children that
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: are featured in this content. Why because children cannot give
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: informed consent to be filmed on social media period. Even
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Frankie's husband joined in, quote vlogging my family. Putting my
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: children in public social media was wrong and I regret
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: it every day. Hey, then why did you let it happen?
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: That's a good question.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Huh.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: Speaking of the husband, what is Ruby Frankie's ex husband
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: doing now now? Kevin Frankie, he says he quote still
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: loves her? What How can you love somebody that mistreated
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: your own children so horribly? And ps, where were you
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: during all of that? Okay, all their marital issues aside.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: This is what we know happened.
• 30:24
  Speaker 20: We are going to give the gift of truth to
• 30:27
  Speaker 20: them this year for Christmas. We are having to give
• 30:30
  Speaker 20: them the gift of boundaries, and we're going to give
• 30:33
  Speaker 20: them the gift of repentance. So we sat down with
• 30:36
  Speaker 20: them and we let them know how deeply sorrowful we've
• 30:41
  Speaker 20: been because of the choices that they have been making,
• 30:44
  Speaker 20: and how it's affected their teachers at school, it's affected
• 30:47
  Speaker 20: their peers, it's affected in our home. The siblings and
• 30:52
  Speaker 20: we just laid it out very clear, and we told
• 30:55
  Speaker 20: them that this year they are not going to be
• 30:58
  Speaker 20: visited by Santa. We let them know that Christmas morning, therefore,
• 31:03
  Speaker 20: older siblings will be getting Christmas presents to open and
• 31:06
  Speaker 20: that they will have the gift of love from their
• 31:09
  Speaker 20: dad to I.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's just examine what we just heard. Donna Kelly
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: joining me, former Utah Senior Deputy District Attorney.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Donna.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: She says, the youngest two, which I believe to be
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: around the ages of six and seven, were unwilling to
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: quote repent. So therefore, while all the other children were
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: visited by Santa, the two little ones were not because
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: they would not quote repent. I didn't make that up,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: she said that. And after you speak, I'm going to
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: need a shrink on this. Go ahead, Donna Kelly and Donna,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: I know You've seen this, as have I, where one
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: or more children are picked out as the targets. Although
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I think all of these children have been abused and mistreated, seemingly,
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: one usually is picked out as the most despised and
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: hated and their torture more than anyone else. These two children,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: as they watch their sisters and brothers get Christmas Morning surprises,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: they get nothing. And then there are two children that
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: are bound with duct tape and ropes and starved. I
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: just want to get my hands around this woman's neck.
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: Then not only does she do this to her children
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: behind closed doors, she brags about it on a YouTube
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: channel that is two point two million followers.
• 32:40
  Speaker 10: It's just absolutely heartbreaking to listen to her portray herself
• 32:46
  Speaker 10: as the victim. You know, we told these two children
• 32:50
  Speaker 10: that their dad and I were very sorrowful, and so
• 32:55
  Speaker 10: she's portraying herself as the victim, which is a very
• 33:00
  Speaker 10: common abuser tactic, you know, gaslighting the victim. And these
• 33:04
  Speaker 10: are children. They need to learn by trial and error
• 33:09
  Speaker 10: as they go along, and the parents need to be
• 33:13
  Speaker 10: responding to them in that way, in a kind and
• 33:17
  Speaker 10: loving way, and it's just absolutely heartbreaking. I can see
• 33:22
  Speaker 10: why they were charged with severe emotional harm of these
• 33:26
  Speaker 10: two children. In the charging document, they're charged with not
• 33:32
  Speaker 10: only torture maltrition, but also severe emotional harm, which it
• 33:37
  Speaker 10: absolutely is.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: To doctor Dana Anderson, forensic psychologists and consultant. What do
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: you make of the other children, four of them getting
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: all their Christmas gifts from Santa and these two being
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: left out on Christmas morning, one of the biggest days,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: one of the two biggest days in the Christian year,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: that being Christmas and Easter, and they're left out because
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't quote repent.
• 34:07
  Speaker 13: Yeah, she wants to make an example out of them,
• 34:10
  Speaker 13: punish them, humiliate them. You know, it's all this sort
• 34:15
  Speaker 13: of brainwashing, gaslightingness.
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: On a six year old, gaslighting, manipulating, abusing a six
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: year old child and her brother.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: So let me understand something.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: The Emily Ashcroft, the six year old child that had
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: food withheld, would that be the child left behind in
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: the home, starving and tied up when the twelve year
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: old brother escapes through the window.
• 34:42
  Speaker 8: That would be that same child.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: So this has been going on since the little girl
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: was six and the little.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Boy was eight.
• 34:50
  Speaker 8: One of the things that Ruby Frankie said after her
• 34:52
  Speaker 8: arrest was that those children weren't fit to be around
• 34:55
  Speaker 8: other children. And I'm not sure what she means by that,
• 34:58
  Speaker 8: but it seems like it was specific to those two.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Where is the dad and all this?
• 35:04
  Speaker 8: Ruby Frankie and her children were down in Ivans, which
• 35:08
  Speaker 8: is probably about three between three and four hours from Springville.
• 35:13
  Speaker 8: We know that Ruby Frankie was there because she shows
• 35:15
  Speaker 8: up in a video and that's why she was charged.
• 35:18
  Speaker 8: She was in a video that was posted shortly before.
• 35:21
  Speaker 8: We don't know if the dad was down there in Ivans,
• 35:23
  Speaker 8: up in Springville, how long he hadn't been there, or
• 35:27
  Speaker 8: maybe he wasn't Ivans.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Did he not notice two of his children, at least
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: two of them, or being slowly starved and tortured near death?
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: I mean when neighbors noticed the child is starved and
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: covered in duct tape on their extremities. So she didn't
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: know what's going on. And apparently this has been going
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: on for some time. At least the little girl was six. Guys,
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: take a listen to our cut thirty.
• 35:53
  Speaker 8: Carturing him stuffing, I know you're not, but it looks
• 35:57
  Speaker 8: like you are.
• 36:02
  Speaker 20: I'm only going to say it one more time and
• 36:04
  Speaker 20: then you're going.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: To lose the privilege to eat dinner.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Okay. I hear the laughter.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on, but I also hear
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: you're going to lose the privilege of eating dinner. I
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: hear Ruby Frankie saying that what makes her any different
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: from all the other abusive parents hair and makeup? Two
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: hours of hair and makeup before she gets in front
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: of the camera. To Jason Jensen joining US high profile
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: private investigator out of Utah located in Salt Lake City,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: Jason Jensen, how are we going to go about proving
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: this case?
• 36:41
  Speaker 9: Well, I think you hit most of it on the head,
• 36:44
  Speaker 9: and basically we have to show that there's a pattern,
• 36:47
  Speaker 9: a history between the actor, the abuser and her victim children.
• 36:54
  Speaker 9: And we have that pretty well established from some of
• 36:58
  Speaker 9: the outtakes of the you Tube channel, things that have
• 37:02
  Speaker 9: been brought up by fellow viewers and that we've discussed
• 37:07
  Speaker 9: here during the program. There's a history of this type
• 37:12
  Speaker 9: of neglect and abuse against these two particular children that
• 37:16
  Speaker 9: have been slowly brewing over time, where it was perhaps
• 37:22
  Speaker 9: determined to be minor, not enough to remove the children
• 37:25
  Speaker 9: from the home before, but now we're so severe that
• 37:29
  Speaker 9: they're being bound in duct taped like you know abductees,
• 37:34
  Speaker 9: and they're not even allowed to you know, venture forth
• 37:37
  Speaker 9: from the house. And every time that they get in trouble,
• 37:41
  Speaker 9: food is taken away as a punishment.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Also, we're learning that one Abruby Frankie's other daughters says
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: her mother was reported to police years before.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: For abuse, yes, and nothing was done.
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: And sisters of Frankie three sisters have also released statements
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: admitting that they quote kept quiet on the subject.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: What in the hay is that doctor Dana Anderson.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: That the family knows, but they choose to remain quiet
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: and let the children continue to starve and be tied
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: up and bound.
• 38:26
  Speaker 13: Yeah. I can't say the extent of what the family knew,
• 38:30
  Speaker 13: but they certainly had some information. And I think it's
• 38:35
  Speaker 13: interesting that they've quickly made statements to the public stating
• 38:40
  Speaker 13: what side they're on. And I wonder if what the
• 38:44
  Speaker 13: phone longue would show of them attempting to reach out
• 38:48
  Speaker 13: or call CPS or the police.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Because they've issued a statement and I'm quoting them, we
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: quote kept quiet on the subject. Now the daughter Sherry
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: has something to say. Take a listen to our cut.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Twenty box thirteen.
• 39:07
  Speaker 11: Frank's oldest daughter, Sherry frank posted to her public Instagram
• 39:10
  Speaker 11: a photo of police with the caption. Finally, she added
• 39:14
  Speaker 11: another story, saying me and my family are so glad
• 39:17
  Speaker 11: justice is being served. We've been trying to tell the
• 39:19
  Speaker 11: police and CPS for years about this and so glad
• 39:22
  Speaker 11: they finally decided to step up. Kids are safe, but
• 39:25
  Speaker 11: there's a long road ahead. Please keep them in your
• 39:27
  Speaker 11: prayers and also respect their privacy.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: The sisters, who are also YouTubers state this is their quote.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: For the last three years, we have.
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: Kept quiet on the subject of our sister Ruby Frankie
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: for the sake of her children, behind the public saying
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: we've done everything we could to try and make sure
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: the kids were safe. Really because they weren't the three sisters.
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: They were starving, they were being bound by ropes and
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: duct tape, and what if anything did you.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Do about it?
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Sounds like nothing, because I have a very strong suspicion
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: that if they had called Defects Department, Family Children's Services, CPS,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: CHOP Protitive Services and some jurisdictions that there would have
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: been a response. Would you agree, Donna Kelly.
• 40:17
  Speaker 10: Oh, absolutely absolutely, Guys.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: There's another person arrested. Take a list. Nower cut eighteen
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: Fox thirteen.
• 40:24
  Speaker 11: Eight passengers was taken down earlier this year, and that's
• 40:27
  Speaker 11: when Frankie partnered with Jody Hildebrandt, a licensed therapist, in
• 40:30
  Speaker 11: a channel called Connections, where they gave parenting and life advice.
• 40:34
  Speaker 11: Pictured in Hildebrant's home, the same place Frankie's son escaped
• 40:38
  Speaker 11: from and where her daughter was found being held captive
• 40:41
  Speaker 11: in the basement.
• 40:42
  Speaker 12: It's heartbreaking, and I think it's heartbreaking for the community
• 40:47
  Speaker 12: that watched this family. Knew that something was wrong.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: So people watched the family and knew something was wrong
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: and did nothing. Now I want you to hear more
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: of what the sisters said. We wouldn't feel right about
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: moving forward with regular content without addressing the most recent events,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: their sister getting arrested and her friend, Jody Hildebrant. But
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: they say once we do, we will not be commenting
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: on it further. Ruby was arrested, which needed to happen.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Jody was arrested, which needed to happen. The kids are
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: now safe, which is number one priority. Really, the number
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: one priority. You say you've remained silent for three years.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: Why did you stand by and let this happen to
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: these children? It seems like Ruby, Frankie, and Jody Hildebrant
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: just cannot stay out of the headlines.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Headlines, be damned.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: She mistreated, abused, beat and starved her children. Ruby Frankie,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Jody Hildebrandt. I guarantee you it ain't over yet. Goodbye
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: friend
• 42:01
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