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Everything Everywhere All at Once · The Art of Costume Podcast

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I thought as someone who's, like, married to her job, like
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this is her life and she takes great pride in it because she
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knows she's really good at it, which is why she has those dumb
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trophies behind her. That looks like a butt.
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Easy. Hello and welcome to the art of
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casting Black, cast iron Wheels with joy glass and I'm your
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friendly tax agent, Spencer Williams.
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Oh Spencer tax agent for bed. How's it going?
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Elizabeth it's going, it's going it's going.
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You know, it's just going like, I'm just working and like trying
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to do fun things with my life and like, not succeeding.
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So I'm sorry, that's yeah, I guess, two updates. 10.
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I finished stranger things season for last night.
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So modulation, so you're all done, stranger things.
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I'm all done for now, so if I seem a bit off, that's because
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that last episode was two and a half hours long.
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So it was like a movie and it was incredible.
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Very, you're done for now. Isn't this the last season?
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No, there's one more. Oh my gosh.
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I think ever end at least one more.
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Yeah, definitely. One more.
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I think. Anyways, it was crazy.
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So I feel a little messed up. I was up all night watching it.
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Second, I have a large popcorn update.
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Oh, okay, so the movie were Bout to see it.
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I waited a long time to see it, so I have to drive to find a
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theater. That's actually playing this
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movie at this point. Okay?
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So I went, like, 35 minutes out of the lane to this theater and
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it was pretty dumpy, I won't say where it's at.
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In case, any of our listeners, go to the theater or they work
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there? That being said, it was hella
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crowded. A so messy new just falling
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apart, but I want to see this movie.
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With that being said, you know, I still have my My Perks so I
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got to go to the front of the snack line and I was like, you
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know what, I already don't like to see her.
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I know I'm never coming back now is the time to ask for the
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child-size popcorn. Yes.
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And I say, hey, can I do you happen to have like, like kids
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popcorn or something? And they're like, well we do.
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But then you have to get the The kids meal and I was like, oh,
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what's that? And it basically was like a
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kid's popcorn and like a cup of Fruit and like, I don't know.
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It was like a little baby drink or something.
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So I was like, okay, well I don't want all that.
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Like, I already ordered like 500 hot dogs.
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So I do what I said, I did what I had to do and I ended up
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getting a large popcorn and a large blank but like Get a
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medium, get a small, but I got the medium and then upgraded for
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free. You're giving into Corporate
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America. Spencer, I tried, I really
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tried. I finally got the courage after
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talking myself up the entire drive.
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Just get the medium. It's a free upgrade, I mean so
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but like, okay, whatever. So that is the end of my popcorn
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updates and we all know the answer.
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Now, you have to get a kid's meal if you go to the specific
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brand of theater. Mmm.
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Okay. Well I'm actually about to
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cancel my movie subscription to switch over to another movie
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subscription because I really like the theater.
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I go to for this chain but it's like low-key out of my way.
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Hmm. Are you joining my side?
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I want to say names until we start getting sponsored by them.
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I know I think this Sunday is another episode, but whatever,
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so like where I live like we can go down to Delaware like real
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easy and it's like tax-free shopping great.
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And that's where this theater is and it's like, if I If I'm going
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to like go do like a shopping circuit and like go to the
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movies, it's okay. But otherwise it's super out of
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my way and then where I work, there's a theater for the other
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chain, like not like it's literally on my way back to and
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from work. So I'm like and they also have
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like they're like a restaurant theater.
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So they have like actual food. So I think I'm going to switch
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over. She's go to the fancy.
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Theater. Yeah, yeah.
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Because I'm just like, I can't eat like, because my body hates
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me. I can't eat half the theater
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food right at this other place, but I can probably eat something
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at the fancy one, probably, they're going to have like sushi
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and stuff. They're not that fancy.
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They're not fancy. Right, right?
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Well, Elizabeth. I am so excited to talk about
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this week's film. What did we struggle to go watch
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this week? Yeah, you struggled.
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I didn't show. That's right, that's okay.
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They'll feel better. I saw it when it was in many
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Theatres. We saw my wish, this, a
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unexpected favorite of the year. It's my favorite movie of this
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year, everything everywhere, all at once, I love this movie.
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So, so much. I mean, I'm just, we're going to
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talk about it. But already my choice for the
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Oscar for costume design. Bang.
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Oh my gosh, if she does not get a nomination, it's a crime why
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absolute crime and I think Michelle yeoh.
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So be nominated and I think this movie should be nominated for
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best picture. It was not credible.
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I loved every second of it. It was so good.
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It was perfect. It like it was a little long.
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That was the only thing that was wrong with it.
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Okay. I was telling Elizabeth before
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the break because I got a large soda, I had the P like halfway
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through his film. But I was so afraid to go to the
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bathroom because of this film, if you leave, who knows where
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you're gonna come back. Like, they could be rocks by the
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time we come back. True.
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That's true. It was you, you could not would
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not necessarily mean otherwise you would be lost.
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Yeah, Elizabeth full. I think we should just jump into
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it. I'll start us off with a little
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summary when an interdimensional rupture unravels reality and
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unlikely. Hero must Channel her Newfound
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powers to fight bizarre, and Bill will during dangers.
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From the Multiverse, as the fate of the world, hangs in the
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balance. It's a pretty generic.
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Yeah summary. Yes.
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If you have not seen everything everywhere all at once, you
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can't listen to this, you have to go see it.
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Yeah, you have to either drive drive drive, drive to find a
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theater. That's still playing it or pay
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for it, and they on your streaming service by time this
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episode Comes out. I just looked this up.
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It should be available to rent. Also perfect or run it.
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Go. You need to go see this.
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Yeah. Before you come back here uses
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pause, go see it now that you're back.
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Let's go behind the Wardrobe. We have directors Dan Kwan and
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Daniel Chenier. Sorry if that's wrong sir AKA
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The Daniels and costume designer.
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Surely kurata, you will know her work from generation, the HBO TV
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series. She was also a costumer in a
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wardrobe assistant on win, a date with Tad.
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Hamilton Alpha Dog. And Spencer.
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What's this? Last note?
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You've put down here. One of her Noble Works was that
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she designed the opening sequence for video game called
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Omega boost Boost. And I put that in here because
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this was like listed as one of her top notable works.
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So I was like, okay. Wow.
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Yeah, because she's like, I like wasn't really familiar but she's
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like a total Fashion Icon. Oh yeah.
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This woman. Yeah.
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Surely kurata is Iconic. I'm obsessed with her and
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everybody should be because she knows her stuff.
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Daniel Kwan, said to the New York Times about her.
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She's able to take the dumbest looking thing.
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It and turn it, turn them into high fashion in a lot of ways.
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She's a Kinder Spirit to our process and very much focused on
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the same Endeavor putting highest and lowest on the same
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level and showing people, maybe there are two sides of the same
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coin. I don't like now I want to know
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this woman. Why we gotta get surely on the
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podcast ASAP, if people are talking like, you just know how
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to lie. Like put everybody on the same
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level and tree everybody with like that kind of kindness.
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I'm like, I want to know you because we need more of that in
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this world. Uh-huh, she talked a lot about
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just being approached for this project producer, John, Jonathan
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Wong, who she'd worked with on various commercials, instead of
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describing the project to her, he just sent her to the script.
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Like, here you go. Would you be interested in
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designing the costumes? And she told him, that it was
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quote, my kind of crazy. We're talking like, yeah, your
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default beautiful for something to be your kind of crazy.
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Can you love it? Can you imagine the script to
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this thing? It must have felt just as
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bananas. No I can't I can't I can you
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imagine what they'd cut out? Out.
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Yeah, it's been insane. How did we first started?
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Reading this thing II just couldn't and surely she spoke to
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the Phil about the film to CBS News.
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She said, I watched a lot of films and preparation for this
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Stephen Chow films. Michelle yeoh films like Wing
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Chun and Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, one car, way films.
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And some of the film's, they Did like Holy Motors and paprika,
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which I haven't heard of those last two films, but I really
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feel like I need to watch peppery Canal.
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Yeah, because I've never heard of it.
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Any movie named after a singular spice, I want to know what's
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going on. Yeah, I want to get into all
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these films, I'm down. Yeah, no.
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I need to see all of these but I love that.
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She's Like okay. This is based on like this huge
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Multiverse and there are a lot of references to other films
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especially like film Styles within it.
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So she was like, okay, let's go see what this is all about and
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watch all the movies, right? And with all that inspiration,
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she just took it and just piled it into the movie.
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So I feel like we should jump into this Spencer or how about
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you? I am so ready.
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I've been wanting to talk about this ever since I stepped out a
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theater. So Let's do it.
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Let's do it. We'll take a quick break and
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then be right back. Hi.
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All right, Elizabeth high-rated. Do your taxes.
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Never but you know we don't have much of a choice in this life.
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So we are going to be doing this film.
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Let's just say this is gonna be a little bit chaotic in sense
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that there is a million and two costumes.
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So, the best way we found to break it down, to be splitting
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this into the three parts, everything everywhere and all at
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once. So let's start with part one.
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Everything. If it's the little out of order,
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you know, don't worry, we'll get to the main costumes eventually.
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All right, so part one, everything Evelyn is a
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chinese-american woman who runs a struggling laundromat with her
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husband. Wayman tensions are high due to
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the laundromat being audited by the IRS by the eye.
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The IRS additionally Wayman is trying to give Evelyn divorce
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papers Evelyn's demanding, father, gong gong has just
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arrived from China and Evelyn's daughter.
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Joy has been trying to get her mother to accept their
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girlfriend Becky. So there's a lot happening when
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we start off, there is so much happening at the beginning of
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this film. I was like, just let them like
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the first, like, ten minutes. You're like, this is enough for
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a film on its own if they just did a film about them like just
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this family unit them trying to A save the laundry mat from the
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IRS fix their marriage and accept their daughter.
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That's a movie within itself. Seriously, they could do so many
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things with us. So, let's talk about our like
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first initial costumes. First of all, Michelle, yeoh, as
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Evelyn Wang obsessed with her, I mean, she just did so great.
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In this film. She did.
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I like she's my favorite right now, between Tween this and Star
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Trek like she's perfect. She's amazing.
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I believe I've read that this was originally written for a
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Jackie Chan and I ended up adapting it for Michelle, yeoh
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and I'm so glad I did that. Right.
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Right. I heard the same thing.
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I heard that he was like, offered it but I wasn't sure if
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it was like, her part or her husband's part.
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Mmm, well, she was made for this role.
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She was made for this role. This is her moment.
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So good. I love her little opening
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costumes. They're very just like cute and
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adorable but also like she's on the go, she's writing this
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laundromat. As we see she, like doesn't ever
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have a chance to sit down and when she does, she's doing the
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tech stuff. So she's really just moving and
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moving and her costume. We don't really know, but this
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costume. Does she ends up wearing to the
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IRS? Building?
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Really is like her main costume for the entire film.
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Yeah. And I I like it because it's
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like it is just it's everyday where they just that's what they
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all have. I kind of liked it because they
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all look just very normal. Like they all look good but they
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look very normal. Like nothing's like overly
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fitted, nothing's like overly fashionable but then her look in
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particular is very like adaptable with like just long
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sleeve shirt and that little that like padded vest she's
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wearing. Yeah it's like oh yeah it's no
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wonder you start fighting people in this like it's not super
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surprising. Let's talk about other
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characters. We have key haiquan as Wayman
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weighing, which I just have to say it was so good to see him in
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this film. It's been a while since I've
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seen the key here, take one. If you don't know which I'm
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looking at Elizabeth's face, I don't think you do know.
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He was a data and Lagoon. Knees and he was Short Round in
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Indiana Jones in Indiana, Jones. That was him.
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Yeah, that's wild. That is wild.
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So fun fact about me. I've never seen The Goonies.
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Oh, come on Elizabeth. I'm sorry.
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You've, but I love his costume individually because he's like,
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Is a dad. He's such a dad.
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He has this like a long-sleeve collared shirt tucked into his
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pants with a fanny pack which becomes a plot Point later on.
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I loved that fanny pack. It's so good.
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I love this entire look. You don't expect anything out of
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him. No, you don't.
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Because he's just, he's, he seems kind of inept, but he has
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killer perk like people skills. Why?
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He's a good guy. He's just a good guy.
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Fantastic guy, which is like the part like Evelyn isn't seeing at
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this point. She doesn't see that like oh
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like just because it's not what you think.
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You need. Doesn't make it any less
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valuable for, right? Then we have James, Hong as
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gong-gong, the legendary James honk, and he is just, he's
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wearing whatever, Evelyn will put on him in the When you know,
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right, he just has all these layers on and he's just kind of
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rolling around a laundromat. They take him with them to the
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IRS and it's such a funny character, such a funny
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character. I do like his look because when
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he's brought into this whole Multiverse thing, like that,
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just like, I feel like it with the Tactical almost vest looking
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thing and what looks like a fishing vest, but it's still
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that like tactical style, then it just he be Comes like very
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like militant. And it's like, oh, good job,
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very adaptable. There's so much like character
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in these characters at the beginning of this film, to set
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them up for later on and you don't even know it which was
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kind of. Yeah.
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And then finally, we have Stephanie shoe as Joy weighing
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and tally medal as Becky, which I thought was such a great name
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for Joy's girlfriend. You know, of course, Becky
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Becky. Just the Becky.
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She's so nice. Yeah, she's loved.
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But joy is wearing a costume that like I recognize this is
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just very grungy she's very over it.
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I mean, she's just trying to get through this.
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She's kind of mad at the world. She's just really in her
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feelings, all the time and she Stephanie shoe does such a great
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job at this role. Absolutely.
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Absolutely. This is the, you know, the just
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classic 20-something postie. High School emo.
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Yeah. Person.
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Like that's kind of what Joy is 100%.
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Like that's who she is. I mean, she has a lot to figure
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out and it doesn't help that her mother is not terribly
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supportive. No, not at all.
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All right. Well, I'm ready to head over to
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the IRS building for real. Oh my gosh, I can we just talk
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about the icon the legend. Jamie Lee Curtis as dear Dre.
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But I only know how to say her last name Deirdre I will go
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with. Wow, this costume was crazy.
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Yes, yes, just looking at it right now I like it's
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ridiculous. It's so ridiculous.
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But you know, I have a lot of respect for her because she
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takes pride in her job. She's good at her job.
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Oh, Jamie, Lee, Curtis enjoyed the hell out of this.
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You could tell she had such Such a good time.
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Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
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You can tell she does want to help them but she's like, I
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don't even know where to start helping you.
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This is a nightmare. I'm also seeing for the first
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time all the pictures of her cat in the office.
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She's three separate pictures of her cat.
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Oh my gosh. I didn't notice that this time.
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That's so funny. Yeah, there's just cat pictures
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everywhere. I love that.
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Shirley talked about Jamie Lee Curtis has character to CBS
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News. She said, Jamie Lee.
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Curtis sent me a photo of her and in costume for the film
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Daddy and them, she was the visual inspiration for Deirdre
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along with some references of tax Auditors that I found and I
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love that about another Jamie Lee.
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Curtis character was the inspiration for this Jamie Lee
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Curtis character right? But also how do you do like
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research on tax Auditors? That sounds so fun.
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Right? Like how does that happen?
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It's just so good. I mean the yellow, the vest, I
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mean cat lady 100% And we didn't see the cat photos.
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Which is what's so crazy about it?
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The bad wig. I mean, everything about it.
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The necklace, like, it's just the whole thing.
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It's perfect. I love it.
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It's perfect because it's like, you Tell she someone who cares
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about her appearance but it's like she just doesn't have the
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time or the money to actually care about her appearance.
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And I feel like that's kind of like most office workers like
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they care. But, like, do not have the time
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or money. I saw someone who's, like,
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married to her job, like, this is her life and she takes great
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pride in his because she knows, she's really good at it, which
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is why she has those dumb trophies behind her.
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That looks like a butt plugs. They were perfect.
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They were crazy. Film was insane.
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Especially when the Multiverse comes into action.
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Yeah. So suddenly like things start
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happening real quick. Suddenly Evelyn has these
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little, like, they look like the old school like Bluetooths on
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her ears. Yes.
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And Wayman becomes Alpha Wayman. And next thing, you know,
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Security is rushing in here. I don't know why Evelyn punched
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Deirdre. I was like really girl, but then
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Wayman goes into this whole martial arts scene using his
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fanny pack to like completely destroyed a security guards.
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Amazing, I was just like, this was the point movie.
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I was like, hold on a second. What is happening?
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That's what he uses that fanny pack for a good.
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Like 10 minutes, just Messin people.
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Uh, up every second. I was like, wow, this is great.
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I mean, a costume Point became like a plot point.
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This freaking panty fat Fanny pak.
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Do you know how much time they spent?
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Like trying to find the perfect fanny pack or making one?
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It's so funny to me especially because it's like the perfect
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color against everything else. Like it really stands out even
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though it's not like a bright color, it's this like, I don't
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know, like, terracotta Orange. Brown color but because
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everything else is so, like, tan and like white and colorless.
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It just stands out against everything and then especially
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his shirt. Yeah.
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And then when he turns around and grabs like the Rock from the
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fish tank, I've never been so scared of a fanny pack in my
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life, right? This thing is a dangerous weapon
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but Evelyn just Taps into the Multiverse real quick and is
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like oh another version of me is like an expert Kung Fu like
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master and she's just so confused.
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Yeah, she's very confused but she starts zipping around a
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Multiverse very quickly. So the first look that we were
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going to kind of talk about this like to Kung-Fu Evelyn look
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where we kind of get like these visions and to the other
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Universe where she's like training and kung fu martial
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arts of this up with Appears to be her master.
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She's wearing, like, a very light pink and red look, and
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it's just so beautiful. It's just so crazy.
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How this crazy film they work in these like, really beautiful
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shots. Yeah.
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And this is the first place where you can see like the
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reference to like Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon like those
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movie references because that's, you know, very much what a lot
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of these universes are based off of.
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Oh yeah. You know there's actually funny.
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Daniel and I were talking before we got on and he was asked me,
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if like, is this a martial arts film or, you know, of like the
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traditional kung fu movies. Yeah.
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I like part of it. Yeah.
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But the actual film is not a martial arts film.
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It's, it could be anything really the paint on how you look
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at it. That's true.
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This is just one of them moments.
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I was just so beautiful. I was tossed with it.
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So, this next look, I want to talk about was Wayman Alpha
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wave. Like, little text set up,
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because to me, this is just a direct call out to The Goonies,
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which now, I know. Elizabeth never seen.
27:03
So this moment, feel silly, but for the listeners at home, this
27:07
is a direct call out to data from The Goonies, right?
27:11
Has all the tech all over him. I swear that that's what's
27:15
Happening Here. I am going to trust you.
27:19
I see what you did, surely. I love this because it's very
27:24
like, just like Chocolate pick like tapping into my technology
27:29
to go access to the Multiverse. Like it's very like home-grown
27:35
technology and it looks kind of rough but it does what it needs
27:38
to write. I wonder like if our idea of the
27:41
future is not exactly what's happening here and this you
27:45
know, Multiverse or it's like it's a future still kind of like
27:49
Back to the Future Vibes or the technology looks a little retro
27:52
because that's what it looks like when it's on Alpha Layman.
27:56
All right. Well, we have a main character
27:59
talk about. I was not expecting this, but
28:03
once I saw this character Irene knew that Shirley had to have
28:07
been nominated for an Oscar this coming year jobu to Paki comes
28:12
into the scene and just unleashes like a Multiverse of 1
28:16
million different costumes on us.
28:19
I think there are at least like 10 costume changes within five
28:22
minutes. Yeah.
28:23
Well like this first. And were to booze, like really
28:28
introduced is wild and surely such a CBS News.
28:33
Some of the outfits were scripted or ideas proposed by
28:37
the Daniels like the Elvis suit. The pro wrestler look and the
28:42
gulf look for jobu and all of Michelle's looks were scripted.
28:47
Other looks I suggested like the opening plaid look that jobu
28:51
War. I was only given the note to
28:55
hide her face. Phase.
28:56
So I thought that an all plaid look with a matching visor and
29:02
face mask would be a good opener.
29:05
I also had this vintage plaid Vivienne Westwood suit.
29:09
That's Stephanie really loves. So we decided to do a more old
29:14
Hollywood. 40s inspired Blade Runner look which we see for a
29:18
quick moment in the movie star universe.
29:22
And it's like, oh, like talk about collaboration.
29:26
Shen ya that plaid look was sick.
29:30
I knew it was Joy. I mean as soon as I saw the face
29:34
been covered but still that plaid look was just so beautiful
29:39
to look at like all of them were and just like the like these
29:45
ones like yeah that Elvis suit, like she's barely in it, but
29:49
it's like it's impeccable, it's perfect, it fits her perfectly.
29:53
I love like the flamenco. Oh look that she wants three
29:57
seconds just so much color in it and this film is not afraid to
30:01
play of color. And I love that so much.
30:04
It was just always so bold and bright and never matched the IRS
30:07
building environment which is why I loved it so much.
30:13
It just everything was so perfect.
30:15
Everything was perfect. You know what else was perfect
30:20
was Evelyn's movie star. Look, I mean, sheesh.
30:26
I love this because it's kind of a cross between the I'm almost
30:30
like this is like Michelle yo-yos real-life crossed with
30:33
like the Kung Fu Universe. Yeah.
30:36
Well I just Michelle yeoh yeah this is just her life and she
30:44
took a lot of inspiration from In the Mood for Love for this
30:48
scene and it's just like it's glamorous, it's beautiful
30:52
Michelle ego looks like impeccable.
30:55
Bowl. Yeah.
30:56
She's practicing for two Oscars right now when she gets that
31:00
best leading actress award. Absolutely.
31:04
Absolutely. And Weightman.
31:06
He really Wayman looks good. It means up.
31:10
Yeah, it's like it's so funny to see.
31:14
Like, okay, separated you have all this like, personal success
31:19
but like, you never found love and your lives without each
31:23
other. Like, it's so sad.
31:26
Just so as soon as she stepped out of the car I was like I am
31:29
am in love with this. This is just so great.
31:33
But we kind of like snap back into what I think is like the
31:36
main universe. But honestly I didn't really
31:38
know where we were at this point of the film because a joy snaps
31:43
back and she's wearing a golfing.
31:45
Look and Islands. Get ready to do some more
31:49
Kick-Ass moments before she almost kills her daughter for a
31:52
second. She's really going through right
31:53
now. She does not know what's Being
31:56
and neither do we neither do we? Everything's wild like we've
32:00
already seen her in what? 20 costumes and Shirley's hopped
32:05
a filmmaker magazine, that Michele showed up to start
32:09
rehearsals, not too long before we started shooting.
32:12
I love that she trusted my and the Daniels Vision, she would
32:17
say when she didn't like something, but gave me a lot of
32:19
freedom to create. These looks some of them are
32:22
absurd costumes so I was really nervous.
32:26
But she was so open to it. Throw this pizza hat with the
32:30
pizza costume on, she'd say, okay, she was the same same
32:36
thing. Sorry, you're going to have to
32:38
wear a very dad outfit. He was laughing because I was so
32:42
not him, but said it was perfect for joy and Joe Boos costumes
32:49
Stephanie. And I collaborated more because
32:51
her character had so many costumes, and because we had
32:55
such Free rein and so she was like these actors were down for
33:00
anything. I love that.
33:02
I also love that they mentioned. That it was just a dad outfit.
33:06
That was what Shirley was going. Yeah.
33:08
Yes. It's so funny because like, his
33:12
dad outfit, and then when you see him at the movie star
33:14
universes, like, oh, sir, right here fine-looking gentleman like
33:20
that was not expected. So the film continues on and
33:25
we're just Things just start going really wrong because
33:28
suddenly gong gong is like against Evelyn and bringing all
33:32
these people in to fight her becomes one big action movie.
33:36
One of my favorite characters, let's played by Jenny slate.
33:40
Debbie the dog mom, Jesus dog. As a weapon could not stop
33:48
laughing. It's so good.
33:50
Jenny slate like a Pomeranian as a nunchuck.
33:55
It was just So good. Chinese Clay is one of the
33:58
funniest people on this planet. She is.
34:00
I when I saw her in the beginning of this, I was like,
34:03
oh no. Oh no.
34:06
I was like this is about to be real ridiculous.
34:09
Yeah her costume is very like I don't know just like Los Angeles
34:13
girl. Walking her dog Silver Lake
34:16
Area. Like she's very put together but
34:20
just very standard. Yeah, she's one of those people
34:24
who like honor dating. Says that she's a dog bomb.
34:27
You know, like, like mother of two fluffy Pomeranians, we have
34:34
the security guards, who, you know, they're, they're just, you
34:38
know, game mess up left and right until their costumes are
34:41
being altered. Like, when one of them start
34:44
wearing pants because he had to use random tools from dear Joe's
34:48
office to become this crazy. Good fighter.
34:55
I don't like it, it's so funny. It was hilarious.
35:00
And then just like they have all these tax Auditors outside, just
35:05
looking real boring and then like half of them were like
35:08
activated by their alternate universe selves and I was like,
35:12
what is happening? And then Evelyn somehow becomes
35:17
Captain America by tapping into, like a pizza sighing twirler,
35:22
which suddenly she like, you Is her little Shield moment to
35:27
become a Captain America and messes up all the tax Auditors.
35:30
It was insane. It was wild.
35:34
I hope you all watch this film because if you're listening to
35:36
this, you have no idea what we're talking about, and that's
35:39
just, like, the truth of it. It is the truth, especially for
35:44
her for Joe's green feather, ball movement, this was so
35:53
ridiculous. And Shirley said, for these
35:57
kinds of looks really said, to let CBS News.
36:01
I had been working with musician theriot whack, her style is
36:05
quite unconventional. So I was well, versed with
36:07
avant-garde designers and fashion School alum, who were
36:11
making interesting work. So tapping into that world
36:14
definitely helped with creating looks for jobu.
36:17
I'm also a big fan of costume designer.
36:21
I go yoshioka, who did Coppola has Dracula Have all of her
36:26
costumes and they influence Joe booze Bagel Universe.
36:30
Look for some of her other looks I studied Japanese Harajuku
36:36
fashion Publications and blogs which I'm like, this is a wild
36:41
mix of all of that. Always goes back to eiko for us.
36:47
I love the green fuzz ball. Look.
36:49
This is such a cool costume, it might be one of my favorites.
36:53
It you know, real Minds me of like a few pop stars.
36:56
I know they're like currently like Japanese breakfast.
36:59
They're wearing looks like this on the red carpet right now.
37:02
So just to me just felt like we were looking into like a red
37:05
carpet fashion moment, which is cool.
37:07
Yes, this is definitely something like you would see at
37:11
like the Grammys I feel like or the MTV Music Awards.
37:16
Yeah, for sure. That's a cool look.
37:19
I I like had an audible gasp when I saw the first time So
37:24
then you know, an audible gasp she dies Evelyn basically
37:32
overloads and she takes a little nap after she becomes like 100
37:37
people at once and since everyone's taking a nap
37:40
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37:43
don't worry when we come back, there will be hot dogs.
37:46
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Thank you for all your support. Elizabeth Elizabeth, can I offer
39:11
you some hot dogs? Maybe we have to get to the hot
39:17
dog, fingers, look, I think This is my favorite universe but also
39:22
like this was wild. It's just so silly.
39:27
It's so silly. I loved it so much.
39:30
That while I was, I was only one in this theater.
39:33
I looked up because I know that a 24 was selling hotdogs
39:37
fingers. So I was looking them up while I
39:40
was, you know, in a theater because I was going to try to
39:42
wear them to the recording and like, surprise you, they're sold
39:46
out. I'm on a waitlist my God.
39:48
You're no weightless for hot dogs and Hers.
39:55
My gosh, well I 24 if you're listening, if you could pump me
39:59
up that would much appreciate it.
40:03
I okay. I love this universe.
40:07
I love the look of this universe.
40:09
I mostly for the color of it. I surely said to CBS 2 news, I
40:14
knew there was going to be a lot of jump cuts and fast editing.
40:17
So it was important to also make sure Costume looked distinctive
40:22
from each other. So I try to differentiate them
40:25
by either color or shape for the hotdog Universe.
40:30
I wanted the color scheme to be in hot dog colors, beiges, pink
40:36
stands. I carried over the sweater vest
40:40
that Deirdre war in a beige color.
40:43
Post the yellow that she wears in the tax Universe.
40:47
Also that color palette was very distinctive.
40:50
Live from Evelyn's endeared, rose colors in the tax Universe
40:55
good it's at like it was so good it definitely like differentiate
40:59
it from you know everything else.
41:02
Nothing is even the tax office is not this beige I will first
41:12
with this. This reminds me of like SNL
41:14
character that Kate McKinnon and 80 Bryant is to do like these
41:18
two like Cats women but like there they have they love each
41:25
other. So much to have matching hair.
41:27
They're both wearing like matching pussy.
41:29
Blow tops. That's just like different
41:32
colors is so good. I-it's some of my favorites.
41:37
It's so good. And I also love because these
41:39
are very emotional scenes by absurd and kind of like toned
41:45
down. As it as the scenes are.
41:47
It's also a very elegant very A elegant like also kind of
41:52
vintage to oh my gosh, I just noticed a huge cat portrait on
41:55
the back wall, Toyota flat. But you're so right though I was
42:00
I was kind of tearing up watching this scene and then
42:03
like Evelyn's foot like casually comes over and wipes a tear from
42:08
Deer. Just face.
42:09
It started laughing again because I was crying.
42:12
Is that the whole the whole using their feet instead of
42:16
their hands? I was like this is what
42:17
especially playing the piano. Oh yeah.
42:20
Because like I played the piano. It's like not an easy skill to
42:24
play the piano with your feet. I'm just like a nice.
42:28
How they still put the brace on Deirdre is foot to which was
42:32
just, yeah. Top to your costuming.
42:34
I don't know. Yeah, I just feel like this is
42:37
just some of the best costumes I've ever talked about a
42:43
fantastic costume. The singer Universe this, just
42:48
very traditional Oil. Chinese look is fantastic.
42:54
Oh it's a beautiful those costumes on Michelle are just so
42:59
stunning. There's so much detail in it to.
43:02
I got like a bigger shot of it from like head to toe so much
43:07
detail. So beautiful.
43:08
This is a museum piece for sure. Absolutely, absolutely.
43:12
And it, it does that thing of just differentiating itself from
43:17
every other single costume, like, Bright the bright pink and
43:21
blue is like nothing you see on her and any other Universe?
43:26
Yeah, it's just it's it's just so beautiful, you know, I
43:31
wouldn't have like words for it. I just keep thinking like damn
43:34
Oscar Oscar like every costume. Absolutely.
43:41
But probably after the hot dog Universe, loved loved loves the
43:48
wreck kuna. Tui We recruited Ooey.
43:52
I, I cannot stop thinking about Daniel and Chloe during the see
43:56
know. Like they're gonna love this so
43:58
much. Yeah, gratitude, we fans.
44:01
This is hilarious. This was so good.
44:05
I love that. They got Harry shoom Junior
44:10
because like he's one of the, he's like a fantastic actor.
44:13
Who is severely underused in the world and I just, I love Of him.
44:20
I loved him in this. He was so funny.
44:24
So funny. And it was also like so funny
44:27
seeing Evelyn's character like as a step in Yaki chef and it
44:31
was just hilarious. The Twist I put on it though,
44:33
with like, you know the raccoon in the tall tall hat.
44:37
Like how are they doing all this work?
44:39
It's just hilarious. I wonder how they got this
44:41
costume. Who knows who knows?
44:45
Like I have just I Laughed the whole time.
44:51
Yeah. Especially because the
44:53
especially when she gets on his shoulders and starts controlling
44:56
him. I couldn't to save the freaking
45:00
raccoon. The raccoon was like asking for
45:03
help from the back of the truck. Like what are we watching?
45:08
I love it so much. It was hard to focus on all the
45:10
costumes because there's just so much happening and I couldn't
45:13
stop laughing and or crying. I will like the great part of
45:17
these costumes are. It's like, they're very All,
45:20
because the Ridiculousness at least in this universe is not
45:25
the costumes. It is the fact that this man is
45:28
being controlled by a raccoon, it's stupid, love it.
45:36
And there's like other crazy stupid costumes.
45:40
I mean, you just see like little flashes of Evelyn.
45:42
You see? Like the pizza hat and just like
45:44
other looks from different universes.
45:46
Not all of them are crazy University.
45:49
How to, Verse, I loved the rock Universe.
45:52
I thought that was so funny. That was hilarious but I'm like
45:58
oh well I could that would be nice to just be a rock for a
46:00
little bit. I love it.
46:01
They're just sitting that she'll like Joey's been like the
46:04
villain up until this point and then they're just rocks are just
46:08
say next to each other and they're just laughing about
46:10
being rocks and I was like yeah that's a moment.
46:13
Love that. Love it, love it.
46:15
Brilliant. Okay but Have to wear ending
46:21
here with some more show-stopping costumes.
46:24
One of the big finale costumes was Joe, booze, white.
46:29
Look from this The Bagel Universe, Bagel Universe.
46:34
Oh my gosh. I this was just gorgeous and
46:41
Shirley talked about it to filmmaker magazine.
46:44
She said, for the most part Jews, Bagel Universe costume was
46:48
built from scratch. Each the skirt that she's
46:51
wearing was designed by klaudia lie, that was already existing.
46:56
But Lee, also did all the bagel followers costumes, I thought
47:01
she'd be great to collaborate with, for, from that skirt.
47:06
I filled out the rest. I had the rough and bodysuit
47:11
that she's wearing, made and added gloves and accessories,
47:15
but for the most part that was a custom build also, The fly look.
47:21
When we first see Joe, boo Claudia made that and a custom
47:25
visor and face masks to match the coat.
47:28
She's wearing. So she was like, I'm going to
47:31
reach out and collaborate for all these wonderful.
47:34
Wonderful crazy looks and it worked out so.
47:36
Well it's so stunning. I mean it's everything is like
47:42
Bagel Centric so everything's very round.
47:45
I mean, there's pearls her hair is like in a shape of a bagel.
47:48
She has this Elizabethan rough that I just am obsessed with.
47:54
This whole thing was just so beautiful.
47:56
It's like interesting seeing, like what you think is the
47:59
villain like, in lots of white? It feels very Angelic, but
48:02
that's not what's happening. And just like the everything bag
48:06
all why I was obsessed. I was like this is stupid and I
48:11
love it. Yeah, but either get it or you
48:17
don't it was Amazing. I just like an everything bagel.
48:22
What brilliant this is a brilliant.
48:26
This look was so good. The Multiverse start spiraling
48:30
out of control and Evelyn is just fighting gong-gong
48:34
soldiers. After she messes them up, they
48:36
come back up and she has to do all over again.
48:39
But like we have to mention like gongs little Transformer.
48:43
Look, he has on suddenly, he's wearing like, all of the
48:46
computers and keyboards and print.
48:50
Is in the copy machines. He's just a robot now.
48:53
He yeah, he becomes a robot and this again it was just
48:59
ridiculous and there's just so many costume changes and it's
49:02
like like this is like a little bit for our slides on the
49:06
shorter side because there's just so much you can't like it
49:10
get everything. Yeah, exactly.
49:13
I mean, there's just not enough time in the world to like find
49:17
every single costume. And as we're getting near the
49:23
end, like seeing, like Evelyn's look that we saw her in the
49:26
beginning of the film into now, like, it's just like, somehow
49:30
works and became like such like a really cool martial arts
49:34
costume even though it really is nothing special.
49:37
But something about like that red and the collar on that,
49:40
like, padded quilted vest, like really became like something
49:44
that almost like looks like traditionally, a martial arts,
49:48
look, that I would think of Yeah, definitely.
49:52
Especially with like the sleeves of her shirt or just slightly
49:56
bailed out at the bottom. Yeah, which also gives it just a
50:00
little bit of that look. And it's, it's brilliant,
50:03
especially with the googly-eye. What's a googly-eye, good.
50:08
I have to say this film. I mean, it's not really easy to
50:11
compare them, but in terms of Multiverse movies this film,
50:15
really like blue, Doctor. Strange out of the water.
50:18
Yeah. Yeah.
50:20
I mean, Very different. Very debate.
50:22
Yeah. But like, you have two totally
50:24
different messages. Yeah, for sure.
50:26
But sounds that were, like, we need to watch a Multiverse
50:28
movie. It's this one.
50:30
Like it's this one? Yeah, I'm sure.
50:33
Okay. So, like, jobu suddenly is given
50:35
this huge closet of Epic finale, costumes.
50:40
I don't know where to start. Honestly, I will start with her
50:45
like like metal. Kpop, almost All-black.
50:51
Look obsessed, so good. That's definitely one of my
50:56
favorites too. And as she has this, this other
51:00
one, where it's just a combination of all these
51:02
different fabrics and this make it that's very like pop art
51:06
inspired. I'm trying to think who the
51:08
artist is this this reference is going to kill me, but this is
51:12
definitely a reference. It it absolutely is and I am
51:17
blanking on the name, I'm sure people are.
51:20
Having right now, listening to the podcast screaming, we get
51:24
it. We just don't remember the name.
51:26
But this look is just so stunning, so stunning.
51:30
Then her heard, teddy bear jacket.
51:35
It's really cute. It was a really cute so cute
51:38
with all the different colors on it.
51:40
It's just, this is all like serious fashion pieces.
51:44
I mean, to me, this is this like is really informative of fashion
51:48
today and in the future is setting trends.
51:50
Ends. I mean as a way is like clue
51:52
listed in a 90s. This is like you know this crazy
51:56
film could be like influencing fashion going forward from this
52:00
film. Absolutely absolutely.
52:02
I'm really great pieces. But like, luckily for us we are
52:08
given a little bit of a break from all the craziness, and we
52:10
go back to Evelyn's New Year's party at the laundromat.
52:15
And it's like really beautiful. It's toned down a little bit.
52:20
But use of the Reds and the Gold's just Evelyn looks amazing
52:26
donning. Yeah, she looks stunning.
52:28
This red turtleneck and coat with the Umbra gold.
52:33
Embroidery. So beautiful.
52:36
So beautiful. While she's like, low-key having
52:39
a meltdown. Yeah, everyone's having a
52:42
meltdown Deirdre shows up. She's still wearing her same
52:46
outfit. She wore to work.
52:47
She's not going to change. No, because she's lonely.
52:50
Loki. Having a meltdown as well,
52:55
everyone's having meltdowns, but it's just so beautiful.
52:59
And it, like ends of like, a really touching scene between
53:02
Evelyn and joy, and I was tearing up again, if she's such
53:07
a good end, which brings us to the next chapter part 3, all at
53:11
once, this, it was just like the culmination of everything, they
53:18
all look slightly. Cooler than they did at the
53:22
beginning, they've all been through some stuff.
53:25
But then like have they really, I don't really know who's been
53:29
through what. But yeah, like they all look
53:34
slightly cooler but they're here to work on everything work it
53:39
out about the movie as a whole Shirley said to CBS News.
53:45
I'm also proud to be part of a movie that gives a voice to the
53:48
Asian American narrative and away.
53:50
Way. That is totally unique,
53:52
thoughtful and creative, but resonates universally and it's
53:56
much in its message of love acceptance and empathy and that
54:01
such a film can have both critical and box office success,
54:07
which in turn, I hope will open the channels for more diverse
54:10
stories to be told and it's like, yes, that's beautiful.
54:15
Yeah, I this movie, I really hope did that.
54:20
Yeah, I would love to see more films like this, you know, it's
54:24
it's really time. I mean this cast was incredible.
54:28
I mean it just this movie was perfect from head to toe
54:32
Michelle. Yeoh, I can't even say enough
54:35
amazing things about her and it's time that we like Embrace
54:40
more stories. Like, surely you mentioned of
54:42
the Asian American narrative? Absolutely.
54:45
It was just brilliant head to toe, okay, just say that story.
54:50
Costume in the final scenes when Wayman is like at the IRS, he's
54:55
like dressed up a little bit. He's still a dad, he's like a
55:00
cool dad now, like this? Yeah, yeah.
55:04
He's like it's great. And now dark and mysterious and
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even Joy. Like she's still like in her
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like Hot Topic phase. But it's like a nicer sweatshirt
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and jeans so she is like a little bit more together.
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If that Elizabeth, there's and have everything everywhere.
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All at once. I mean, this is a hard episode,
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I'll admit because there's just so much I have to say, Spencer,
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I don't think there can be a one costume to rule them all for
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this movie. I think they were, it was just
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so perfectly, orchestrated. Put together styled, surely did
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such a perfect job. Like, I can't choose.
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I can't choose one. Yeah, Daniel world.
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The track the one costume to rule them all.
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I think our choice for one cost of rule them all is all of them,
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everything it is, the move, everything everywhere.
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All of the costumes that once they were just all amazing, they
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are all amazing. I really can't wait for award
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season because if this doesn't, if it doesn't win everything,
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I'm like what are y'all doing? Why you're hearing it here
56:28
first? The Arctic, Asia blogcast
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endorses, surely kurata for best costume design, at least amount.
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Jason, come on, we gotta see it. I know there's gonna be so many
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other good films by the time denominations happen, but this
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one has to be a part of it. It has to it has to, if it's not
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even nominated, I'm not watching the Oscars, right?
56:48
Oh, I won't be watching right. Elizabeth's throwing it down
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right now. You hear that Academy?
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Ah, Spencer. Are you ready to continue our
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hot girl summer series? I'm very excited.
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What? We watching next week.
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Elizabeth answer. We are watching a hawk roll
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Summer Classic. We are watching The Devil Wears
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Prada. I'm so excited.
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This is, I mean you know this is one of the greatest costume
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films of all time. It's the Devil Wears Prada.
57:28
It's about fashion and costume. So we might even have some
57:32
special guests on for this one. I'm really excited.
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costume design. Elizabeth for I think we should
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just jump into it. I'll start us off with a little
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summary. When I move the zoom bar away
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from the summary so I could actually see it.
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Okay, it literally covered only the summary