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Growing Big on TikTok with Aims Connor · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to our second episode of A Very Outspoken.
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  Speaker 2: Christmas, our summer series. And today we're.
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  Speaker 1: Joined by the incredible Amy Connor, better known on TikTok
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  Speaker 1: simply as Ames. Now, Ames has over 900,000 followers on
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  Speaker 1: TikTok and shares relatable content about her life as a
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  Speaker 1: nurse and mum. We know you're going to love this episode,
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  Speaker 1: so let's get into it.
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  Speaker 3: I love being interesting. I love being relevant. I love
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  Speaker 3: being funny. I love making people laugh. That's all about
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  Speaker 3: what social media and my content is. And I think
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  Speaker 3: that the reason I've got so many followers is because
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  Speaker 3: people feel that. They see that. They see that I
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  Speaker 3: enjoy what I'm doing. It's a catch-22 when you go
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  Speaker 3: viral because it's like it opens you up to this
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  Speaker 3: dark web because it's just like you're old, you're ugly,
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  Speaker 3: your style's.
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  Speaker 2: None of those things are true at all.
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  Speaker 3: Honestly, a lot of those negative comments actually fuel my
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  Speaker 3: content and you get a lot of engagement when you
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  Speaker 3: snap back at comments like that. So bring them on
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  Speaker 3: because they are actually feeding my content. They're making me
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  Speaker 3: more relevant and they don't even realize that they do it.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us for Outspoken's Christmas special.
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  Speaker 1: We're so excited to have you on the show because firstly,
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  Speaker 1: we were shocked when we saw on TikTok that you
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  Speaker 1: were actually an Outspoken listener.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, I am. I love it. I love the show.
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  Speaker 3: You entertain me on my way to work. I Just
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't do the drive without you guys. I love
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  Speaker 3: hearing a bit of goss. I love being, not being
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  Speaker 3: a part of the drama, but just like hearing about
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  Speaker 3: it and feeling like I'm in there. I think you
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  Speaker 3: guys deliver the news in a way that it's just
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  Speaker 3: so intriguing. And I don't know, there's podcasts out there
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  Speaker 3: that just kind of dribble and you don't. You just
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  Speaker 3: get to the point and you tell it how it
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  Speaker 3: is and it's really entertaining. I love it.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 3: That's so kind. blew some wind up your skirt there.
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  Speaker 1: Much appreciated because usually we have influencers hitting us up
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  Speaker 1: in the dms maybe not too happy with some of
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  Speaker 1: the content oh.
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  Speaker 3: You haven't but you haven't spoken about me exactly i've
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  Speaker 3: got i've got nothing i've got no bad blood hey.
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  Speaker 1: Who are some of the influencers you follow and i
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  Speaker 1: suppose maybe align with because i'd love to know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah well i mean i love like The Sky Wheatley,
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  Speaker 3: the Indy Clinton. I love Lily. Is it Brown? Lily Brown.
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  Speaker 3: Is it Brown?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I love Em Davies. I love that she's just had
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  Speaker 3: a baby. I feel like she's just absolutely in her
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  Speaker 3: element right now and I love seeing it because she just,
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  Speaker 3: I know that she went through a rough time, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like with her mum and stuff. So I just feel
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  Speaker 3: like she's just found her place like the meaning to life,
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  Speaker 3: I think. I don't know. I don't know. Something about her,
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  Speaker 3: her content has changed since she's had a baby and
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  Speaker 3: it's just so wholesome to watch. I love it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
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  Speaker 1: I've been really enjoying her content more recently. And you
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  Speaker 1: mentioned Sky Wheatley. I mean, we've been speaking about Sky
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  Speaker 1: a lot, especially her fox eye surgery. And the thing
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  Speaker 1: about Sky is I agree. I think she's, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think she has a bad bone in her body, but
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  Speaker 1: she's just so controversial. Like every week there seems to
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  Speaker 1: be something that she's done that sort of sparked interest
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  Speaker 1: but I think it's because she's so honest and actually
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  Speaker 1: puts all the stuff out there she doesn't hide a
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  Speaker 1: lot of what's going on in her life like other
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  Speaker 1: influencers do.
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  Speaker 3: It is yeah and that's and that's the thing like
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  Speaker 3: when you get on social media I feel like I've
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  Speaker 3: become quite numb as well to what I put out
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  Speaker 3: there because I don't really want to deal with the
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  Speaker 3: controversy and the hate whereas Skye she's just so brutally
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  Speaker 3: honest and it just tells it how it is and
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  Speaker 3: I feel like yeah she's just she's so young too
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  Speaker 3: you know like she's just learning through, like, and she
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  Speaker 3: grew up on social media as well. So it's just,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, it is nice to see her grow
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  Speaker 3: and become a mum as well.
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  Speaker 1: Last year, we predicted that she would be cancelled again
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  Speaker 1: this year in our little end of year predictions.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't think that's really happened yet.
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  Speaker 1: If anything, I think that more people have celebrated her
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  Speaker 1: because of her appearance on I'm a Celeb.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. I think everyone's fallen in love with her.
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  Speaker 1: And I think everyone has a soft spot for her,
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  Speaker 1: like as the young girl from Big Brother that we watched,
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  Speaker 1: you know, 10 years ago. But I mean, away from
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  Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley, I want to know, Amy, what made you
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  Speaker 1: start your TikTok? Because it started blowing up in 2020.
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  Speaker 1: And this isn't when everyone sort of tried to get
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  Speaker 1: on the TikTok bandwagon. But what made you start? And
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  Speaker 1: I suppose what made your content stand out?
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  Speaker 3: Look, I was a consumer of TikTok for ages, but
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  Speaker 3: I was working and I just had two kids and
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  Speaker 3: I sort of didn't really know anything like didn't really
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  Speaker 3: know what to do with it really. But I always
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  Speaker 3: sort of wanted to. I don't know, like it was
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  Speaker 3: weird and how it all happened because I had Billy
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  Speaker 3: and then lockdown hit and I was like, well, shit,
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  Speaker 3: like I don't even know what clicked in my head
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  Speaker 3: to make a video. But I think like one of
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  Speaker 3: my first few ones went viral and it was back
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  Speaker 3: when TikTok was like just the comedy stuff and like
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  Speaker 3: the skits and the– um, like the trending sounds and
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  Speaker 3: just like coming up with like a funny concept to those. Um,
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  Speaker 3: and I really kind of, I don't know, I think I,
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  Speaker 3: cause I was watching and I studied TikTok. I follow
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  Speaker 3: a lot of like American moms that are just fricking
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  Speaker 3: so funny. So I think, um, I just started doing
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  Speaker 3: those to be honest, and just started doing the TikToks
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  Speaker 3: and like adding, um, and the skits and just like
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  Speaker 3: being the parent and the toddler, because back then my
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  Speaker 3: kids were not, they wouldn't comply to videos and they
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  Speaker 3: still wouldn't really. I don't really like to put them.
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  Speaker 3: I don't really like to put them in the skits
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  Speaker 3: and stuff. They're sort of in the background in the
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  Speaker 3: vlogs and the dancing ones and stuff like that. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: back then they weren't really in it at all. And
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  Speaker 3: it was just, I don't really know. I think it
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  Speaker 3: was just timing for me, to be honest. It was
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  Speaker 3: the right time, the right place, the right sense of humour.
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  Speaker 3: And it just sort of clicked and it all just
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  Speaker 3: went off a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: And you mentioned your kids.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously, you said they do appear more in your content now.
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  Speaker 1: Was that something that you worried about sharing about them online?
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  Speaker 1: Because we've heard recently from Steph Clare Smith and she
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  Speaker 1: came out and said that she now doesn't want to
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  Speaker 1: share her son's face online because he gets recognised wherever
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  Speaker 1: he goes.
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  Speaker 2: Is that a concern to you?
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  Speaker 3: No, not really. It's never really been– I don't want
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  Speaker 3: to sound like naive to the situation, but I think
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  Speaker 3: where we live in particular, we're so out of the city.
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  Speaker 3: Like I feel– I live a little bit rural, so
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  Speaker 3: it's not really– like I obviously think about it, but
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  Speaker 3: I just– I don't dwell on it. Do you know
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  Speaker 3: what I mean? Like I feel like I don't– show
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  Speaker 3: like privacy wise I don't really show what's going on
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  Speaker 3: with them I don't show tantrums I make sure that
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  Speaker 3: like whenever I'm filming they know that mummy's filming video
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  Speaker 3: and like do you want to be in it do
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  Speaker 3: you not want to be in it like they don't
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  Speaker 3: and they know when the video, when the camera's on
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  Speaker 3: and Marley's very, my eldest and my two eldest, they're
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  Speaker 3: just like, if they don't want to be a part
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  Speaker 3: of it, they won't. And even my three-year-old, now she's
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  Speaker 3: just like, she doesn't want to be a part of it.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't force them to do anything. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I still want to talk about the issues and stuff
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  Speaker 3: like that. So I make sure that I, if there's
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  Speaker 3: like an issue that I want to discuss to kind
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  Speaker 3: of open up the conversation and share it to TikTok, which,
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  Speaker 3: you know, advice and stuff like that. And it opens
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  Speaker 3: up you know, like when I do my TikToks talking
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  Speaker 3: about autism or tantrums and stuff like that, I just
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  Speaker 3: make sure I sort of not sharing too much information.
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  Speaker 3: I obviously don't share them in the videos and just
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  Speaker 3: sort of discuss what's going on rather than showing what's
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  Speaker 3: going on, if that makes any sense.
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  Speaker 2: You seem really mindful of it.
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  Speaker 1: And I know it's a really hard one because even
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  Speaker 1: with our sister Kate having a baby recently, I know
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  Speaker 1: that's been a discussion of hers.
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  Speaker 2: She's like, how much do I actually share online?
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  Speaker 1: And it's not like she has a huge personal following,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, most people share photos of their children online,
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  Speaker 1: regardless of if they have a following or not. And
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  Speaker 1: I think the main thing with your content aims is
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  Speaker 1: that you're the main character, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: Like your children are in the background, but it's, as
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  Speaker 1: you say, like you're mindful about what you're sharing, which
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah. And as Amy said, there's so many
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  Speaker 1: parents these days who don't have a following who are,
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  Speaker 1: constantly sharing so much content so it is a really
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  Speaker 1: tough one well it's that thing of weighing it up
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  Speaker 1: isn't it like I hate when people share content about
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  Speaker 1: their kids that you think that kid is going to
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  Speaker 1: be mortified when they grow up and they see that
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  Speaker 1: they've you know the tantrum kind of content.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah like I make sure like you know like
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  Speaker 3: if we're potty training or something like I'll just talk
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  Speaker 3: about it rather than showing what we do like it's
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  Speaker 3: kind of like you know those ones are you definitely
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  Speaker 3: have to respect your kids' privacy in that aspect. And again,
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  Speaker 3: like I ask my kids if they want to be
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  Speaker 3: a part of it or not, and I'll make sure
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  Speaker 3: that they're all okay. But I generally try to keep
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  Speaker 3: them out of it, but they're always in the background anyway.
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  Speaker 1: It's funny because I actually first came across you when
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  Speaker 1: you were sharing the contents of some of your lolly jar.
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  Speaker 1: It was these gummy lollies. And I was like, oh
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  Speaker 1: my God, like I have to follow Ames. You actually
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  Speaker 1: went viral for showing that you feed your kids at 3pm.
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  Speaker 1: And I think everyone's like, wow, this is a fantastic idea.
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  Speaker 1: Can you explain like the reasoning behind this and how
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  Speaker 1: it works?
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  Speaker 3: I copped a lot of slack for people saying that, like,
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  Speaker 3: I thought that I invented it and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 3: So I want to firstly put a disclaimer out that
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  Speaker 3: I do not think that I invented the three-cock dinners. Like,
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  Speaker 3: I know they do them all across the world. I
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  Speaker 3: definitely am not the first to do it. I think
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  Speaker 3: my video just went viral when I was talking about
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  Speaker 3: it and that's just– and some people were like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we've been doing it for ages and some people you know,
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  Speaker 3: were saying we've just started it and it's the most
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  Speaker 3: amazing thing. But basically we've had so many issues with
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  Speaker 3: food from day dot, to be honest, like my first child, um,
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  Speaker 3: Marley had, um, food aversion. So the minute she turned one,
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  Speaker 3: she basically didn't really eat much of anything. So I've
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  Speaker 3: sort of had this really horrible relationship with feeding my
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  Speaker 3: children from day one. So I've gone through a lot
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  Speaker 3: in that sort of aspect where they're always changing and
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  Speaker 3: I'm always trying to find ways to feed them. I'm
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  Speaker 3: always trying to find nutritional foods to put into them
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  Speaker 3: and try and hide the vegetables wherever I can. So
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  Speaker 3: it's always been like a topic for us. It's probably
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  Speaker 3: been the hardest part of parenting in my journey, to
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  Speaker 3: be honest. But I think it started because Marley started
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  Speaker 3: school and she came home. She's basically the main one
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  Speaker 3: that I need to get the most nutrients into because
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  Speaker 3: the others sort of they eat fruit and here and there,
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  Speaker 3: but they're all so different and they all eat different things.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm always cooking different meals anyway. But when she
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  Speaker 3: got home, I found that she was just feeding up
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  Speaker 3: on snacks and like she was so hungry every single
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  Speaker 3: time she'd walk through the door because she doesn't eat
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  Speaker 3: anything at lunch. So her lunchbox is always full still.
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  Speaker 3: So she comes home and she's starving. So I thought, well,
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  Speaker 3: why don't I just try to have dinner ready and
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  Speaker 3: then she can eat her dinner when she gets home.
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  Speaker 3: And then it just started, like, working. And it works
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  Speaker 3: for me too because I prep dinner sort of around
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  Speaker 3: 11 o'clock so when the babies are asleep I can
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  Speaker 3: actually have a rest and I'm not trying to– I'm
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  Speaker 3: not thinking about what I'm going to cook or anything
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  Speaker 3: like that. It's all done. So it's just sort of
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  Speaker 3: worked for me because I always like to be one
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  Speaker 3: step ahead. um and you know in like to be
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  Speaker 3: able to sort of sit down and have a rest
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  Speaker 3: I like to have everything done I like to have
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  Speaker 3: like dinner prepared and the kitchen cleaned and everything sort
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  Speaker 3: of ready to go um that's just a me problem
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  Speaker 3: though I think well you have such.
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  Speaker 1: A busy life because away from TikTok you also work
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  Speaker 1: as a nurse and it's crazy because I think we're
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  Speaker 1: seeing more of this where people are wanting to follow
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  Speaker 1: people who have full-time jobs or work or, you know,
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  Speaker 1: actually have a career. How does that work though as
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  Speaker 1: a nurse? Because surely you get recognized a lot.
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  Speaker 3: I do. I do. I do. It's, um, um, it's
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  Speaker 3: actually like, um, the last sort of few months I've,
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  Speaker 3: really noticed like a lot of people recognizing me look
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  Speaker 3: it's fine like I don't like I just forget to
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  Speaker 3: be honest I I because I do all my videos
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  Speaker 3: basically in the like in my home and as I
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  Speaker 3: said we sort of live out of the city and
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  Speaker 3: stuff like that and people do recognize me down here
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  Speaker 3: but as I said as well it's like a really
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  Speaker 3: safe community around here so it's just kind of like
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  Speaker 3: I mean I say hi to anyone on the street
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  Speaker 3: anyway so it's sort of like just that little bit
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  Speaker 3: of like that extra element of they know everything about
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  Speaker 3: my life. Um, but, uh, well, no working, I'm only
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  Speaker 3: really working, um, as much to keep my registration at
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  Speaker 3: the moment because, um, you know, as you said, like,
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  Speaker 3: it's really quite the logistics of me working isn't really
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  Speaker 3: even worth it at this point. It's more just to
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  Speaker 3: keep my registration so I can go back when all
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  Speaker 3: the kids go back to school and So because everyone's
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  Speaker 3: in such a different routine, like having only one at
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  Speaker 3: school and then two at daycare and then one always
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  Speaker 3: with me, like it's just no one's in the same
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  Speaker 3: routine yet. So even the thought of me going to work,
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  Speaker 3: it's just a logistical nightmare at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: So do you think you'd ever want to become a
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  Speaker 1: full time content creator? Is that something that's on the
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  Speaker 1: cards for you?
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  Speaker 3: Look, I feel like I already am a full-time content
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  Speaker 3: creator and a nurse and I would never, ever, ever
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  Speaker 3: stop nursing. It just, that would be ridiculous, would be
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  Speaker 3: really silly for me because, you know, like I understand
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  Speaker 3: other people do do that and I completely agree with that.
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  Speaker 3: like that's completely their decision. But for me personally, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like I'm 39, like I'm not going to be relevant
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  Speaker 3: forever on this app. Do you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 3: So I'm very realistic with how relevant I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: be for what amount of time. And to give up my,
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  Speaker 3: like I studied for years to, you know, become a
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  Speaker 3: nurse and I've worked really hard to get to the
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  Speaker 3: position that I am at the hospital where I'm able
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  Speaker 3: to just kind of work when I want to. Do
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean? So For me to get
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  Speaker 3: that up would just be silly. And I love being
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  Speaker 3: a nurse. I'm so passionate about being a nurse, but
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  Speaker 3: I love social media as well. So I feel like
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  Speaker 3: I've got the best of both worlds, to be honest. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And it's kind of a double-edged sword, isn't it?
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  Speaker 1: Because people follow you because you're relatable and they want
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  Speaker 1: to see you as a working mom.
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  Speaker 2: And that's sort of a, It's a strange one now,
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  Speaker 2: isn't it?
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  Speaker 1: Because there's so many content creators. For example, there's that
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  Speaker 1: guy who posts about his nine to five, which looks
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  Speaker 1: a bit soul destroying.
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  Speaker 2: Like he could quit his job because he's got so
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  Speaker 2: many opportunities, but he can't. We've had the same conversations too.
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  Speaker 1: Like I feel sad, like us being like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you saying you're 39 and like we're 35. And I
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  Speaker 1: feel like as women, you think, oh, am I like,
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  Speaker 1: is no one going to be interested when I reach
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  Speaker 1: my forties?
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  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like it's a sad.
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  Speaker 1: It's a risk, isn't it? Social media, podcasting, all that stuff.
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  Speaker 1: You just don't know what the future holds.
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  Speaker 3: It's a huge risk. Yeah, yeah. But it's something that
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  Speaker 3: I really enjoy at the moment. So it's like I'm
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  Speaker 3: really happy just riding this wave while I can. Like
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  Speaker 3: for me to be able to stay at home and
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  Speaker 3: make some money and– but not only that, like I
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  Speaker 3: love creating videos just to kind of, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: love being interesting. I love being relevant. I love being funny.
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  Speaker 3: I love making people laugh. Like that's all– about what
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  Speaker 3: social media and my content is like. And I think
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: that the reason I've got so many followers is because
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: people feel that they see that they, they see that
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: I enjoy what I'm doing. So, you know, I, um,
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: I feel like that's something that social media misses. Like
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: there there's only like, there's a lot of negativity out there.
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: Like if we can get, The people who I follow
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: are just so uplifting. They're so energetic. They're so charismatic.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: They're so interesting. So I want to be that for
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: someone else. Do you know what I mean? So yeah,
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: it's really fulfilling at the moment. And I feel like
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: That's another reason I started it is because like when
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: you are a mom and I don't want this to
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: sound negative, but like when we were in lockdown and
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: I had three children under four, it was like everything
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: was so similar. Like the day was the same. We'd
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: wake up. I had this little outlet of TikTok where
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: I could be funny and I could be relevant and
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: people were like watching and loving it and really enjoying it.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: And I love making people laugh. I think that's my
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: main sort of, I love making people laugh and I
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: love allowing people to see my life so they don't
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: feel so alone. Do you know what I mean? Like
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: being a mom, like when I went through everything with
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: Marley's autism diagnosis, I just felt like I was the
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: only one going through it. Like what? And fussy eaters,
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: like what did I do to get this? Like I
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: have not done anything wrong and I've got these children
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: that don't eat anything. Yeah. And then as soon as
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: I started posting about it, like it was such an
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: influx of people going, oh, my gosh, same, same, same.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: So we're all like built this community where we could
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: just bounce off each other and people didn't feel so alone.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: And like people chat in my comments section about like,
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: you know, tricks and like ideas that they have too.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: And it's just sort of helpful and uplifting, I think.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: So even though we're going through this sucky time trying
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: to get vegetables into our children, it's like, you know,
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: someone across the world is doing the same thing so
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: it feels nice to be connected in a way.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: That's the thing people can be so critical of social
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: media and think I mean obviously there's negatives that come
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: with it but there's so many positives as well and
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: I know for Kate at the moment being on maternity
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: leave I think because obviously Amy and I don't have
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: children so it's very hard for her to relate to
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: what's going on in our lives and vice versa.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Well, it can be isolating, can't it?
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: The first time you're on maternity leave, it's probably the
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: most isolating time for women because you.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Don't have that support system with your work colleagues.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: And even with Kate, like she hasn't joined like a
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: mother's group or anything like that. So I think for her,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: like she's really resonated with your content and she's like,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: love following mums in the same like stage of life.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: So it's so important.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: And I think it's so wonderful that people like you
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: are opening up about it because we, I mean, you
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: think about our mums, they probably had not much support
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: at all.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: And There'd be so many unanswered questions.
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, crazy. Like I just, cause like Kate, especially like
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: when she was said that she's like feeding at the moment,
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: I'm like, Oh, I remember that. Cause I was very
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: strict like Kate, Kate is. And I was like, this
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: is feeding time. No one like we're not leaving the house.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: This is it. And like, I didn't lose any friends
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: cause everyone's still there. They're just sort of, they're letting
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: you do your thing. Do you know what I mean? Like,
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm sure friends didn't call me because they
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: knew of my strict schedule, but it doesn't mean that
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: they don't like me. They're just trying to mind, you know,
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: minding my business. So, I mean, I get it. And
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: it like, and that's the thing was like, like, as
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: you said, like, I have no idea what my mom did.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: My mom had me in Venezuela and she had my
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: sister who was, is 18 months older than me. And
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: she lived in like, I think they're in some expat
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: community and she didn't know any Spanish and, like, it
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: was just, I have no idea how she would have
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: done it. She wouldn't have been able to watch TV
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: or anything. Cause it would all have been in a
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: different language. I'm like, how did you not, how did
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: you survive that? Like that would have been so depressing.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: It's a bit like, um, our mom having triplets.
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Cause we've spoken to her and we're like, how did
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: you even leave the house with three children?
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: She's like, I didn't for like over a year.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: Because, yeah, you just hear these stories from your parents
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: and you're like, wow, you guys are incredible. And I
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: think something else that probably a lot of your audience
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: has connected with is that you have candidly shared about
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: your challenges with sobriety in your early 20s. If you
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: do feel comfortable talking about it, are you able to
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: share with listeners your journey?
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I mean, look, I let people know that,
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm sober and I went through this hard
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: time and blah, blah, blah. But I don't really– I've
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: never really kind of gone into it, not because I don't–
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: not because I'm ashamed or anything. It is definitely– it's
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: who I am, you know. It's a part of my story.
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: But I don't– I don't want that to be my content.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: If that makes any sense.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Because, and it's like, I want people to know that yes,
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: I'm sober.
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: I went through a hard time, but this is what
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: happens when you give up. Like this is my life.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: My life now is because I'm not drinking. Do you
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like, it's like, You know, like
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of whenever I mention it, I get
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: a lot of questions. But the second I sort of
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: start answering those questions, my whole content will become that.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: And as I said, I'm not ashamed of it and
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: I do want to help in a way, but I
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: feel like I'd be helping more by sharing what the
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: best that comes out of becoming sober, like what you
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: can have if you give up, you know, that hard life.
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: if you give up the drink, like, honestly, it was,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: it was a really tough time for me. Like my
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: whole twenties, um, is a bit of a blur. Um,
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: I just, I started drinking like normal, like normally, I
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: think I liked to party a lot more than other people,
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: but like, I still, you know, managed to, you know,
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: have a steady job through the week. I studied a
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: whole bunch of things through my twenties. I've I went
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: to TAFE, I went to college and all these different
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: sort of career paths, but none of them really resonated
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: with me as much as nursing does. And I went
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: from in my late 20s, I sort of was in
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: and out of rehab for ages and then finally got
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: sober at 27. And then met my husband at 28
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: and then did my nursing degree. And it just all
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: kind of everything happened in a very quick time. Like
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: I got married, had four kids and all that kind
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: of stuff, have my nursing degree. We bought a house.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: We built a house. Just so many good things came
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: from me because like finally stopping drinking.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: It's kind of become good that yeah.
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: And it, cause I mean, I don't drink and that's
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: just been a choice. I've just never really gotten into it.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: And it's funny because a few people like my husband,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: he didn't drink for, I think it was like three
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: months and he's like, I actually feel so good. And
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: it's good that people are talking about that as well.
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: But I think it's important, as you said, for people
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: to see what's on the other side of you changing
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: your life. So it's really positive to see someone who's
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: made a huge success of their life and The fact
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: that you got through it, you did touch on your husband.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I have to bring this up. He doesn't like being
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: in your content, does he? I can relate to that
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: with my partner.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: It's not so much that he doesn't like being in
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: my content. He's just never liked photos or videos of himself.
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: Even on our wedding day, it was a struggle to
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: get photos. It's not really about social media. There's no
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: real kind of– I feel like some of my followers
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: want the– the juicy details. I'm like, it's really nothing.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: It's really nothing more than he just doesn't like photos
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: of himself. Um, and he never has, like, I don't
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: think I can, I think his mom has given me
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: like three or four photos of his whole childhood. So
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: it's just him. Like, it's just not, he doesn't like it. So, um,
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: and I don't, I would never force him. Like he's,
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: he's happy now to kind of be in the background. Um,
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: because he realizes, you know, this is our life now.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: And he's really supportive of that. And he's really happy
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: for me. So he's like, he doesn't mind being in
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: the background. He just would never, you know, actively be
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: on camera.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: Well, while we're talking about your husband, which I'm sure
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: he loves us discussing him on a podcast.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: He really doesn't mind anymore. He just doesn't want to
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: be on the camera.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: I mean, I get it.
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: Obviously, this is a Christmas special episode and we want
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: to talk about Christmas, I want to know because everyone,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: I don't know, people's husbands are different at Christmas time,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: but I want to know what is your husband like?
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Is he like a last minute shopper? Do you have
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: to do most of the shopping for the kids or
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: is he quite a good guy when it comes to
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: present buying?
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: I do most of the shopping when it comes to like, um,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Clothes and books and toys. I don't go too crazy.
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: I've set the bar very low with our kids. So
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: they get Santa presents and they usually just get one
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: joint from me and him. But in saying that, like
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: he's very good at... finding things that the kids like
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: so like for example Marley likes surfing so when it
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: comes when it comes to presents let's say it's all
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: or nothing for him so it's like he he will
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: research the best board for a seven-year-old and like he
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: gets really into it that way but he has to
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: sort of know what they like so Indy I think
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: he's he's gonna get some art stuff for Indy like
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: and he'll just randomly come up and be like I've
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: got this really great idea for a Christmas present for
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: blah blah and I'm like yeah that's great do it
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: let's do it we'll wrap it up that's really cute
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: yeah yeah.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: So like he he he's a thinker yeah and you
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: spoke last year a lot on your TikTok about Christmas
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: budgeting because Sophie and I were having this very discussion
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: the other day about like how much you actually spend
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: on a child, because it's the first time we've had
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: a child in the family to buy for.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: And I even had this discussion with my husband and he.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Was like, the kids don't know what they're getting, you know,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: when they're a baby so it doesn't matter. I'm like,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: I don't know, what's your take on that? Like how
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: much do you think you should spend on your children?
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: 100% with your husband on that one. You honestly, for
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Kate's baby, you could get them a set of keys
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: and they'd be right. Like honestly, like a potato masher.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Like seriously, like I– I love the act of giving.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: I love them opening presents and stuff like that, but
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: they really don't need much. They really don't need much.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: And if you set the bar low, like I said,
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: so when I say set the bar low, they're still
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: getting presents. They're getting some books. They're getting some clothes.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: They're getting some toys, of course. Of course, they're getting
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: toys and toys that they like too. I think this
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: is kind of last year and this year, like the
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: first sort of years where the bigger girls are telling
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: me exactly what they want, but then Like in saying
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: that too, they'll be happy with whatever, if that makes
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: any sense. I know what they like. So as long
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: as they get a few really exciting ones and then
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: they've got the books, like they open the presents and
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: they're like, it's just the fact that they're opening presents
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: the paper is actually more exciting than what's inside. Yeah.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: Because the girls are a bit older. I think my
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: budget is obviously going to be a bit bigger and
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: we don't need, they don't need any bikes or anything
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: at the moment. So I think we're going to be
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: pretty cruisy this year. Honestly, we're just pretty humble when
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: it comes to Christmas. And I mean that in like
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: the least dickiest way. Like I don't want to be
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: like a pick me kind of girl, but like we
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: really just, Keep it really low key. And on that,
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: we go to my husband's house usually for Christmas, if
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: not the day, then we pick a day. It depends
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: on his siblings. And his parents spoil them rotten. And
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: they get so much stuff from my parents as well.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: So I think, you know, as long as there's stuff
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: in the Santa sacks, you're fine. I'm probably even going
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: to say $ 50 a kid, to be honest. Yeah.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: You know, like those TikToks from those American kids and
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: they're doing the PowerPoint presentations of what they want and
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: then they do the hauls and they're like, I drank elephant.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: I thought that was satire for so long. I honestly thought.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: I thought there's no way. Like I get it when
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: the kids are a bit older. I understand. Cause like,
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: you know, that like an ad comes on, on TV
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: and my kids are all over it. But at this age,
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: they don't know anything else. Like we don't have a Nintendo.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: We don't, they don't have game boys or anything like that.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: They have, their iPads, and that's it because they don't
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: know any different. I think the second we get a Nintendo,
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: and we're not really a Nintendo family, so I don't
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: think we would ever really get one until they go
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: to someone else's house and say, oh, they've got this Nintendo.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: I really want it because they would have no idea
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: what a Nintendo is until they see it somewhere else.
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? Yeah. As long as, yeah,
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: they don't know anything else. So the only way they're
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: going to know about something is through you. So if
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: you just keep it really low and just make the
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: magic of Christmas be something else, like the act of giving,
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: like maybe even this year I think I might get
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: Marley to, you know, give her a little bit of
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: money to get presents for her siblings and stuff like
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: that so they can give to each other. And I
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: like the fact that, you know, I can take the
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: big girls out and we can go buy daddy a
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: present and get them involved in that side of it
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: rather than just getting things.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: So true about the magic.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Of Christmas and making it special for them because growing
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: up we had a girl at our school and her
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: parents would just go next level about making it magic,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: especially on Christmas Eve. So they'd get up on the
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: roof and they would stomp around and Do you and
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: your husband do anything like that? Like I saw, for instance,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: Steph Clare Smith, they were doing the whole ritual where
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: they nibble on all the carrots and like, what's.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Kind of in trouble for that though?
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: But is there something that you've done that people might?
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: There were all these like grinches who were like, how
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: dare you? My child has seen this.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: And it's like, but why is your five-year-old child on TikTok?
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: I got, actually, I got a bit of slack for
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: it too, because I made a video the night before
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: Christmas Eve, like being Santa basically and wrapping all the
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: presents and I got a lot of people saying, like,
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: you should have put a trigger warning in front of this.
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, really? Like, why are you showing?
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: I blame TikTok. There should be parameters up maybe on
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: TikTok's end. You have to have a trigger warning for
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: everything these days. The amount of things.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And I like even to even as
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: like far as me using sugar these days, like I
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: need to put a trigger warning up. Like it's just like, yeah,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: sugar and vegetable oil. Apparently I'm not allowed like canola,
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: whatever it's called. Oh, yeah.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Everyone says that that's birth now.
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. No, so we do the carrots. We
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: do the carrot and then we do the Santa sacks, obviously.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: And then we leave a biscuit out. We make biscuits.
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: So that's one of my cooking things. I just love
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: like the Christmas cookie, like just the sugar cookie. Love those.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: And we decorate them and then we leave one of
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: those out for Santa with a glass of milk. So, yeah,
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: that's sort of all we kind of do. And we
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: don't go too crazy. We put Christmas lights on. We
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: love a Christmas tree. We get the real ones. But
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: I heard your episode of the Christmas trees. What are
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: they called? The expensive ones.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Oh, see, I mean, we like literally have only recently
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: started getting fake trees because I swore against them. Like
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: we've always been a real Christmas tree family. And I
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: hate that I've become that wanker with a nice like
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: fake tree.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, so, Amy, this is how into real Christmas trees go.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: We are.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: So like, like for 35 years, I've always had a
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: real Christmas tree. And then my husband who doesn't even
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: like Christmas, he connected the dots that I like real
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Christmas trees and went and bought a whole packet of
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: like Christmas tree seedlings to grow at his grandpa's property.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: And so because he realised how expensive they were and
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: he's like, in 15 years we're going to have a
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: whole load of Christmas trees.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: What if I get one of them for free? But
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: I love that you guys have them.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: That's pretty cool, though.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: But I feel like getting a real Christmas tree is
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: so much fun with kids.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Like I've always said to my husband.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: It's the best.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, when I have kids, I'm like, we're going to
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: get two Christmas trees and we'll just have a real
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: one in another room.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: Except when they probably want to pick out the most expensive,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming. Is that what you do? Is that like
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: you have a special day where you go out and
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: pick the Christmas tree up?
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so, yeah, I've always been a real Christmas tree
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: girl and my husband has always had a fake one.
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: But their fake one is epic too. But, like, yeah,
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: I just– something about the smell of the tree is
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: real nostalgic for me. We usually go to– there's a nursery–
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: in town and depending on it's you Shay usually just
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: goes and takes the big girls with him but when
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: the kids grow up a little bit we'll probably all
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: go as a family.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: You touched on sugar cookies and we love debating the
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: top Christmas recipes so I want to run you through
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: some recipes that.
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: Well, not recipes, dishes. Well, not recipes, some dishes and
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: get your rating either if it's a top tier Christmas dish,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: a mid-tier Christmas dish, or if it's in the meh tier.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: So have Lova.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Oh, top tier. Absolute banger. That is like... that's what I,
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: that is something that I look forward to every Christmas.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: I have to, I have to actually disagree. I do
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: love a Pav. I do love a Pavlova Pav.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: I totally get it. You're either a Pav or you're not.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I do like it, but I think because our mum
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: serves it in summertime, not just for Christmas. So that's
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: why it's not like a quintessential Christmas.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: It's the best because it breaks up like, okay, so
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: the next one is pudding. We'll get your take on
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: pudding first before we delve into that debate, but.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: Um, see, I'm, see, I reckon you're either a Pav
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: or a Pudding and I would definitely be a Pav.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: I think, um, I mean, I love, I love Pudding
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: and I love like the warm. you know, warm it
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: up and have the cream on it and stuff like that.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: But like in the middle of summer, it's not the
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: dessert of choice. Do you know what I mean?
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: You have to be sitting under the air conditioning almost
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: to be able to consume that pudding, especially if you've
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: got whole custard. Last Christmas was cold in Adelaide and
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: it just felt wintry.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: So it was like perfect, like the one perfect time
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: to have pudding. What you need is a little bit
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: of pudding. An ice cream or custard and then like
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: the Pav as well and you break up.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you need both I think.
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: They're both good. I usually, yeah, I usually have like
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: a selection of everything. I've got like a massive variety
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: when it comes to food. Like I'm not– like I
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: would never say no to anything really. So pudding, pavlova,
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: like it's all just delicious to me. So, yeah, but
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: I think pavlovas is the one that I had growing up.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: You know what it is I think about pudding?
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Did your family do this where they'd put the coins
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: in the pudding?
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: No.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: See, that's why you don't like it, I reckon.
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: See, this is controversial because I remember we spoke about
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: it I think last year and people were like, some
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: people go, oh, yeah, yeah, I used to have coins
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: in my pudding and other people didn't.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: It's an English tradition, I think.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like our auntie one year, I remember she gave out,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: it was like if you got a piece of pudding,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: you almost got $ 6 in coins out of this pudding. So,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: of course, even if you didn't like it, you wanted
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: it to get the money.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: So I feel like that would be a good service.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Is that sanitary?
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: Like what?
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: You have to boil it.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Well, I think it's like normally you're meant to use like,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: I think the old currency, you were able to boil
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: it up, I think.
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: But now, for example, so they just put it on
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: the side of the plate.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: They wouldn't.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: No, they'd sprinkle it in. Like, I mean, this was
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: in the 90s. So when people probably didn't care about
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: that sort of stuff.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: Oh, my God. I would never, like, don't do that
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: on TikTok. Honestly, I fed my kids popcorn yesterday. I
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: got so much shit for that.
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: Oh, wow.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: No, I won't be putting coins in my dessert.
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: Maybe chocolate coins. That's actually one of those.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: TikToks that probably– Oh, God, someone would call Bloody Child
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Services on me.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: That TikTok would probably go off because of everyone in
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: the comments. Here's a way to go viral on our TikTok, Amy.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: They usually do. It probably would get taken down for
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: community violation. That's so funny.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, everyone listening, please don't put coins in your pudding then.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Maybe just notes. I think that might– It's like that
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: ice cream cake that comes, that Freddo ice cream cake
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: that comes with the little Freddos in them. My kids
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: don't even really like ice cream cake, but whenever we
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: go to my in-laws, they always have that cake for
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: a birthday and they will eat it because it's a
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: competition to see how many Freddos that you get. Oh,
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: I love that.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: That is so cute. Yeah, it's cool. The safer version
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: of the coins in the pudding.
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: On TikTok trends, there's, I'm sure you've seen it, there's
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: that viral brie and cranberry puff pastry reef that.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Everyone keeps doing.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Is that like, do you reckon that would be top tier,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: mid tier or just meh?
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: I reckon that would be, I mean, it's not like,
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: it's not, in my head, like it would be fricking delicious.
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, but it's not like something that
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: I would think, Oh, for Christmas this year, I'm going
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: to do a breed cranberry reef. Like it's not really
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: traditional for me, but if someone brought it, I'd eat
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: it for sure. So I'm like probably mid tier.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: To wrap it up on a controversial one. What about eggnog?
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: Is that something you can do? How is that controversial? Well,
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: because some people hate it. Everyone hates it, don't they?
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: A few people like it. I'm not a fan myself.
• 37:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I bought some last year because it was on special.
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: I had never tried it before. It just tastes like
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: vanilla malt. But I think the one that I got
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: was just one of the– I think– eggnog is one
• 38:02
  Speaker 3: of those things that like you've got to have the
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: real deal for it to be eggnog but then it
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: gets like distributed to all these like different kind of
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: brands and they just kind of put their own twang
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: on it but like what is actually an eggnog it's
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: got like rum in it it's warm it's And the
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: stuff that we would buy down at the shop that's
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: like the same brand as the custard brand, like Peter's
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: or whatever, they're not going to be creating like the
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: real eggnog, are they? So I don't know. But I
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: would definitely not drink that. And I don't think my
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: family has ever had eggnog.
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: I know last year you had this viral video. Sorry,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: it might have been this year. There was a viral
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: video where you showed how you repurposed some of the kids' leftovers.
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Are leftovers a.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Big thing at Christmastime for you? Is there any sort
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: of like go-to recipes that come to mind?
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: If we did, we don't actually do a family, like
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: we don't actually host Christmas at ours. We go to, again,
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: we go to my in-laws. But then she always like
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: divvies up all the leftovers and everyone takes their own packet.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's nice.
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I don't think there's much you could do.
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: like with, but obviously there is like with Christmas ham
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: and stuff like that. But I think my husband's going
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: to be eating that ham before I'm able to kind
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: of do anything with it, to be honest. But honestly,
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: the repurposing videos and stuff only really happened recently with
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: just the amount of– like with my fourth now eating
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: as well, there's just so much waste. And it just
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: gets to a point where I just couldn't handle throwing
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: it out anymore. So I was just– yeah, I just–
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: but it's usually only breakfast stuff, if I'm completely honest,
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: or sandwich crusts and things like that. But when it
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: comes to dinner– like I'm not going to go re-hating
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: chicken three or four times it's just it's it's about
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: a sanitary thing as well and my haters gonna jump
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: on that one too because they they think that I'm
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: cooking up like snotty cereal and stuff like that but it's.
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: Not the case at all it's usually the cereal that
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: I pour and I give it to them because I'm
• 40:13
  Speaker 5: just on autopilot and that's what they had yesterday and
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: then they look at it and they're like no I
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: want some toast and I'm like are you are.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: You kidding me? There's no way I can force my
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: child to eat. And then I'm not going to sit
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: there and tell them to go hungry or eat it.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: That's just not the parenting style I have. So I'm like, okay,
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: it's usually my fault anyway, because as I said, I
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: go on autopilot and I'm just making the same thing
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: as they had yesterday, but maybe they don't want the
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: same thing as they had yesterday.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: I'm sure all the trials would have an issue if
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: you were just like wasting food and throwing it out
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: too so I feel like you can never win with
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: people on there.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah I did this um this bissel ad this vacuum
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: ad and I poured a few little cocoa pops on
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: the ground and they ate it up they were like
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: oh so now like who's the hypocrite like oh my
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: god yeah totally I can't win honestly it's just it's crazy.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: How do you deal with the criticism?
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: Because I know even like on a smaller level with
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: our podcast, I've found the criticism hard and I find
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: myself going and reading negative comments.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: What's your sort of tactic with dealing with it?
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't read the forums anymore because there was
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: one sort of trail of one– what are they even called?
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Is it Tattle?
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: Oh, no, that was– was it? What's the other one called?
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Reddit? No, there's another one.
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: Reddit. Yeah. So there was a Reddit post and it
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: was horrible. It wasn't about me. It was about one
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: of my daughters. So after I read that, Yeah, after
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: I read that, I was like, I'm not going on anymore.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: And that was probably about six months ago. And I
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: was just like, that's it, I'm done. And then ever
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: since I've stopped reading that, I'm pretty good. Like, I'm
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: pretty okay with the comments that come up because they're
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: just so ridiculous. Like... But the forums, that's where I
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: found myself sort of going into a little bit of
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: a hole with, because it's just, they're just literally making
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: up stories and you've got no way to defend yourself.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: And there are people on there defending you, but like,
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: it's just honestly, it did my head in not being
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: able to defend myself and for like, like trying to
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: work out how they even came up with that. For example,
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: like taking my kids to the pool, there was this
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: one thing where it they were saying that I was
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: just sitting there on my phone and my kids are
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: just in the pool by themselves. And I was like,
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: what do you mean? Like my kids, what do you mean? Like,
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: how would I take, how would that even be possible?
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: It's just awful when it's just a flat out lie.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: And as you said, you can't even defend yourself. And
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: I just think that those, like they really need to
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: have some sort of regulations around those forums because It's.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Defamation though as well.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: Because I don't understand how they can get away with
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: some of it. But like the thing I find.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Crazy about Tattle Life, obviously not Reddit, but Tattle Life,
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: is that you can't even join it without getting a
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: referral link. So even if you did want to jump
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: in there and defend yourself, which probably wouldn't be a.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Good idea with those people. I think that would be
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: the worst idea ever. No, but I'm just saying that
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: even if you did, you can't even get on there.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Like it's crazy.
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I always say this to Sophie as well. I'm a
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: sensitive soul. Something like Tattle Life, it's, you know, they
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: tout it as it's a snark site. And so I
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: just think if you go in with the mentality of
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: they're never going to say anything nice about you, like
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: it's literally a place to be vile. I think it's
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: one step further.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: Who makes a threat on a child?
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: That's just disgusting. You don't even want to know. It
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: was the most horrible thing. It was talking about their
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: weight as well. It was just the most disgusting post.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: And it had been deleted. So it was just the
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: comments underneath. So I didn't actually read the post. It
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: was just the comments underneath. um, just alluding to the
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: fact that that's what the person originally posted. And it
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: was just so disgusting that I just almost threw my
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: phone and just said never again. Um, but then, but
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: like going past that, just the comments that I get,
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: like they, they honestly, they don't get to me anymore.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: I don't think I ever really did because it's just like,
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: you're old, you're ugly, your style.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Well, none of those things are true at all.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: Well, I think it's more like, honestly, it's just the
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: ones usually that go viral. So it's a catch 22
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: when you go viral, because it's like, it opens you
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: up to this dark web where they're just saying things
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: because they just like, I don't even know why, but
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: To be honest, I really don't care. Honestly, a lot
• 45:00
  Speaker 3: of those negative comments actually fuel my content and you
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: get a lot of engagement when you snap back at
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: comments like that. So to be honest, like bring them
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: on because they are actually feeding my content. They're making
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: me more relevant and I just like and they don't
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: even realize that they do it, I don't think.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I love that.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: I feel like we shouldn't end on– I feel like
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: we shouldn't, and even though that was a really positive
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: sentiment you had, I feel like we shouldn't end the
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Christmas episode talking about trolls. I want to know one
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: last question about what do you want for Christmas this year?
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: Because anyone that's listening that knows you, here's a good
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: way just to drop it so you actually get what
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: you want this year.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: That's a hard question to throw. That wasn't in the
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: approved questions, Amy.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: You know what? I don't want this to sound– it's
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: going to sound cheesy, but– My husband and I actually,
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: like we get so much throughout the year. Like it's just,
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: it's crazy. Like with my line of job, with my
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: line of work, Shay used to be a sponsored surfer.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: So he still kind of get whatever he wants really.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: So it's like I don't really feel like we need things.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: I just love this time of year, you know, when
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: the sun starts to go down at like 8 o'clock.
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: like yesterday at 6.30 in the afternoon, like the kids
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: were on the trampoline jumping with the sprinkler. Like it's just,
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: that's all I want. I just want everyone like just
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: to have a really magical Christmas. That's it. Like, And
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: I know that sounds really cheesy, but honestly, I have
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: everything I need. You know, I just got the ad
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: with Bissell vacuum. So I just– that's sort of like
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: been the most special thing that I've got for a
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: long time because it vacuums and it mops. It's amazing, honestly.
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Your husband's probably sitting here being like, I've listened to
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: this so I can get like the hot tip on.
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: What to get you.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: Do you know what?
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: That's so true about vacuum cleaners though. Like I had
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: never become– I got a Dyson vacuum cleaner like four
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: years ago and I literally– I mean, I paid for
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: it and I literally became the biggest advocate for this
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: vacuum cleaner. They change your life, don't they?
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But, yeah, it's just so, yeah, it's one of
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  Speaker 3: those things that you don't realise you need until you've
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  Speaker 3: got it and you're like, what was I doing without this?
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  Speaker 1: I think Kate wants one of those actually. I saw
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  Speaker 1: she flagged that. Well, that's a good Christmas present.
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  Speaker 3: Idea for her. It's a good one though. The Bissell,
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  Speaker 3: it's a really good one. No, honestly, but, like, I don't– like,
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: we've got– I've got enough– I've got too many clothes.
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: I've got jewellery. I've got makeup. I've got everything. It's
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: just I would prefer to give this year, I think. And, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's sort of the mentality I'm going with. And my husband, too, like,
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  Speaker 3: he doesn't really– need anything. So I think we're just
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  Speaker 3: going to try and focus on spending our money on
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  Speaker 3: the kids and just making Christmas really special.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: So you're not planning on buying your husband a boat
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: like Sarah's day. I don't know if you remember that
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  Speaker 1: back in, was that two years ago?
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  Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? Did she get him a boat?
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: She gave him a boat. It was like a speed boat.
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: It would have cost like, what? Oh, my husband would
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  Speaker 2: love that.
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  Speaker 1: Like he was so envious when he saw that podcast.
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  Speaker 3: Pop up.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, where's my boat? I'm like, I'm so sorry.
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  Speaker 2: We're not in the same tax bracket.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Let's not forget that Sarah's day is worth millions.
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  Speaker 3: Like we're just, we're just very, very basic bitches down
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  Speaker 3: here in Kiama. We're not like pulling, like we're just
• 48:28
  Speaker 3: living in this really old cool house. And like, there's just, um,
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: we're just happy with sort of the, the basics at
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: the moment so yeah I um I don't think I'll
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: be getting him much obviously we get something that like
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: so the kids can see us unwrap stuff but it's
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: usually just I don't know if my husband gets me
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  Speaker 3: like last year he got me a dress to wear
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: for Christmas which was really nice and I opened that
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: and I got him some barbecue tools or something like
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: it's really not like crazy I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Impressed he got you a dress I'm laughing because Amy's
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  Speaker 1: husband like when they first I think it was one
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: of their first Christmases together he bought her a whole
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: bunch of clothes with the hope that she would wear
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: them on one of them on Christmas day and they
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: were literally like I don't know where he got these
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  Speaker 1: things from now he just gets me like hoodies and
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: it was like this track he was like a tomboy
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  Speaker 1: it was like this polka dot dress like these really
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: girly things were like do you know her.
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  Speaker 4: Like this is why oh dear he tried he tried
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  Speaker 4: my husband gets like pretty much all the clothes that
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: you see he dresses me so he's pretty pretty switched
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: on to fashion not in the sort of Just in
• 49:37
  Speaker 4: the way that he knows what looks cool.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. It's weird. I love that. He's just
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: got that sort of, yeah, he's really, you wouldn't pick it,
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: but like because he's like he's a building designer and
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: he's really kind of artsy and crafty. So he's all
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: over the whole fashion stuff. He's got the best fashion.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: He's so much more fashionable than I am.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: This is just making people want to see more on
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: your TikTok, I think. Like you're not helping that cause.
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: No, but it's sort of like this magical unicorn.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: He's the coolest guy, honestly. He's so cool. And like
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: he's just like the coolest surfy dude. Like yesterday we
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: were at the beach and he just jumped on his
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: surfboard and went and had a surf. And I was
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: just like, you know what, this is like I'm living
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: my actual dream right now. Like I've got my little
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: grommets on the beach digging a hole to China and
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: my husband's out catching a few waves and I'm just
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: sitting here cruising. Like it was just it's the best
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: at the moment. Like I'm just absolutely loving life. It's
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: just amazing.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to another episode of
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: A Very Outspoken Christmas. We will be joined in Outspoken
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  Speaker 1: Plus tomorrow with Ames. We are testing her to see
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: how big of an Outspoken fan she really is. We're
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: going to be doing an influencer quiz with her, which
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: is a lot of fun.
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  Speaker 2: This episode was recorded.
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  Speaker 1: On the traditional land of the Kaurna people of the
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  Speaker 1: Adelaide Plains.
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  Speaker 2: We pay respect to Elders past and present.