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Jamie Gilcrease Joins: Podcasting, Community, and Creating Change Together · The Scene Projects

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Well, welcome in to this exciting episode of Get Better Together.
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I am your host, Bubba Starts, and with me today is my new cohost, Jamie Gilcrease.
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Jamie, welcome back to the show.
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Yeah.
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Hey, Bubba.
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Well, we had so much fun when we had you on as a guest a few weeks ago, and I thought it would
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be fun to explore at least doing a few episodes with you, as just a cohost where we get into
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more of a back and forth kind of conversation rather than just kinda digging into your shit.
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Right.
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I like that.
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We can dig into mine too.
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So for for people that maybe haven't, haven't seen your your episode with us before, why
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don't you give us a just a short backstory on you and, you know, obviously, businesses and
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everything.
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And then what kind of brought us together?
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Yeah.
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Absolutely.
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I own a coffee house up in Leeds, South Dakota and, met some amazing humans through that.
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I've met you maybe a few times.
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I've heard of from you.
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And then, yeah, I own a coaching business and, have some real estate, and I'm a mom of three
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beautiful young daughters.
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And, yeah, that's kind of
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who I am.
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Well and you have a keen interest in helping people.
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Right?
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Yeah.
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That's what really brought us together is that with your coaching and consulting, and your
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affiliation with, oh, what's the name of the organization again?
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Which one?
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The Lotus Vision?
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Well, Lotus Vision is yours, but with the pathways.
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Pathways.
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Shit, bubba.
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Maybe I'm not saying it right.
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Oh, like, path of love?
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Path of love.
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Thank you.
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Yes.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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Awakening of love.
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I've done a lot of different things.
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So I'm like, what?
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What what?
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Yeah.
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And I think community.
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Right?
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That's a big connection for you and I is community.
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Right.
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Well and and it's definitely that, you know, the wanting to not just better ourselves, but
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to help other people be better, is obviously what what drew us together, now in the Get
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Better Together project.
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Right?
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It is it's finding a way to even beyond just a podcast to find ways to bring this to a live
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setting with, you know, conferences or or seminars or whatever you'd like to call them.
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I think that's a passion for both of to to do that.
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You are officially a podcaster now as you just finished up shooting your first episode and,
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you know, getting on camera and talking.
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Tell us about the process.
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I mean, it's still fresh in your mind.
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I can still see that glow about you right now of having finished it.
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So tell us about kind of how it came about, who your first guest was, and, how it's changed
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your life already.
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Yeah.
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Already.
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So I think I reached out to you and said, hey, Bubba.
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Like, I'm really interested.
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I want to share stories that matter.
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Right?
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And I have conversations.
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And yesterday, you gave me some homework.
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You know?
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You said, why don't you just do it?
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And so actually, last week when we talked, I got all the equipment, and I asked the right
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people and was able to get the ring lights and different things.
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And I asked Tracy Iceland, our island, you know, to come on.
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She's actually a partner in a business that I've got going on here in Spearfish.
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And I said, hey, Tracy.
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We just did a ribbon cutting.
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Would you come and have a video with me?
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Live video.
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Let's just do it.
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And she's like, yeah.
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Absolutely.
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So we set it up, and we just started having conversations around what it is that we're
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doing here, why we're doing it, and it flowed so beautifully.
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Like, it was not it didn't feel hard, and I felt like we had conversations that matter.
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You know?
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What we're doing.
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And that's what most people don't realize about what a podcast is, is it's just a conversation.
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It's just talking, but it's it's kind of ditching the the mentality of, like, oh,
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somebody's going to be listening to this, and I have to be something other than just myself.
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And I think that's probably what trips a lot of people up is you're looking at what we've been
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fed with broadcast television or radio or something like that, and you're thinking that
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you have to fit into, like, this crazy box and to have the radio voice, which, you know, I was
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blessed with, also a face for radio too, but that you have to have, like, some special
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skills to to be a podcaster.
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And it's like, no.
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You just have to know how to talk.
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Are can you be interesting for fifteen to twenty minutes with another human being?
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And really, that's all it is.
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So I was I was so proud, to watch you today on the live and to see it just kind of blossoming
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right in front of our eyes was was a really cool process and a really cool moment for me,
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especially because this is the future of my business.
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Right?
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It's it's training other people and is giving people that confidence to step out and to start
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having conversations that matter of their own.
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Right?
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I'm a 50 episodes in.
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I know.
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I know what it's done for me.
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Right?
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And and I wanna share that with you, but not just by having a conversation with me.
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Go have conversations with people that you find interesting.
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And that could be within your circle or that could be out in the wide world, and and that's
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it was really cool to see that first block in motion.
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Oh my god.
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We got somebody off the sidelines and into the game today.
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Like, I was just thrilled.
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Oh my gosh.
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I'm so grateful because, again, like, I knew that it's supposed to be happening.
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I could feel it.
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Right?
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And then you were you were sharing things about what you're doing, and you're just becoming
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this lighthouse for me and probably so many others.
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And was like, oh my gosh.
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I I gotta talk to him.
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You know?
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And you're like, just start.
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You know?
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We tied the conversation around how we learn how to walk.
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Right?
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We don't just learn how to walk.
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And I just had to put down the perfect down.
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Right?
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This this sense of I needed to be perfect.
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I'm like, wait.
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I know I don't have to be perfect.
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And so yeah.
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I mean, I'm having these conversations anyways.
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And like I said with Tracy, I said, oh my gosh.
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You know?
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How many times have we had the conversation that we should have recorded this?
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And I think that came out in one of our conversations too that you had felt that way.
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Right?
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Well, yeah, even yesterday's conversation where it's like, now we should have probably recorded
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that, but that's okay.
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That's okay.
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There were some great gems, and I don't even have my notebook.
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I always have my notebook.
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I just had to I just had to write down put down the perfect.
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I don't know if that's a new show or it's just our new motto, that's what it takes.
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And because of my experience as a live performer, right, I've never put pressure on
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myself to be perfect.
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You're gonna get what you're gonna get.
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Right?
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So it kind of gave me that unnatural, confidence and that advantage in this world to
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go, who cares if it's on tape?
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Right?
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Like, probably nobody's listening.
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And if you're talking for an hour, most people aren't listening to the whole thing anyway.
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They might catch a clip on on your social media with a reel or something like that that draws
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them into your world.
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But, yeah, if you're gonna I mean, your life isn't perfect.
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Right?
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But you wake up every day and you step out there into the world and you don't let your not
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perfect life affect you from taking the next breath.
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So why would you let it stop you from doing this?
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And, yeah, it was it was such a cool part of our evolution as a company, as people, as what
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you know, the evolution of what we're going to do together for our future.
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This was a huge first step to that today, and I was really glad that I caught it live, got to
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be in the comment section, and throw some flowers your way.
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And I just I'm so darn proud of you, Jamie.
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You really grabbed it by the horns.
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Thank you so much, Robert.
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I just like, again, like, yesterday saying, like, thank you for being a lighthouse for
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people because, again, I was for so many years, I've wanted to do this, you know, and and just
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have these conversations because I love having conversations with people, and I love gaining
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these these pieces and nuggets from people because everyone around me is just so
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incredible, like, really incredible.
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They've all lived these amazing lives.
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And when you get curious about humans, oh my gosh.
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You know what I mean?
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They just they they just amaze me.
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Every day, I'm amazed by somebody.
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You know?
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I'm learning all the time.
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And yet you you don't know what made someone who they are today.
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Right?
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Like, you're inspired by the man I am now, but how cool to go back in time with a conversation
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and go, what what made you this lighthouse?
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How did you how did you come to this?
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And then to have that conversation with, you know, that you're never gonna run out of people
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to talk to.
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Right?
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Like, there's 8,000,000,000 people on the plane.
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You know?
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Like, you're never gonna talk to all of them, so you're never gonna run out of conversations
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to have.
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You're never gonna run out of people to be inspired by.
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And that's what really, that's what's really unlocked this whole thing for me and why I set
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out with this, you know, start a million podcasters on their journey goal is because
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that you you have to set some outrageous number.
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Because if you set it too low, that it's very achievable.
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Right?
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You know, we could start nine podcasters a day or more.
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Right?
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And that's where this thing like, right now, we have one.
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Right?
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We got Jamie off the bench, and she's out there now, and she and she's doing something.
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You know, to get 10,000 of that in the digital era, it it isn't as hard as it seems like.
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Right?
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With the ability to do webinars and to share knowledge digitally, you know, even even a
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hundred thousand podcasters seemed like a low number to me.
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And maybe I'm crazy.
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Maybe that's all it is.
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Right?
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And I just like throwing big numbers out there because I wanna chase this for the rest of my
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life.
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Right?
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Right.
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And I just can't imagine anything being better for myself.
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I've learned so much about me, right, through having conversations with other people and
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relating to other people and having relationship, right, with other people that,
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you know, present company included, that I can't imagine stopping doing what I'm doing.
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I know I'm gonna enjoy the hell out of teaching other people how to do this and then watching
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their lives changed.
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Right.
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Absolutely.
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And I think that that is such a key point that you just made, you know, and and we don't know
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who we're gonna impact, but we know we're gonna have some impact.
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And it's like, you know, taking taking myself out of the box, I think, was really huge and
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just saying, now what?
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Right?
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Now what?
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You know?
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All of this is in front of me, and, you know, my hair is a little crazy today because, you
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know, I always do it straight.
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I don't know if you know that, but I'm always straightening my hair because it's so curly,
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and it's so crazy.
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Oh, you gotta let those curls go, sweetie.
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I know.
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I know.
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I said my hair is gonna enter the room before I do today.
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Like, that's just what's gonna happen.
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You know?
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But it was like, okay.
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I don't have to be perfect today.
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Like, I don't.
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And and that is really important.
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You know?
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Because we don't other people are like, oh my gosh.
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Your hair is so beautiful.
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I'm like, oh god.
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You know, it's so frizzy or whatever.
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And something so simple.
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Right?
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But I was like, I am not letting this stop me.
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I'm not letting it stop me.
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I'm just gonna go with it, and we're doing it.
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So that's all.
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And and oh, well, you're welcome.
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No.
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Thank you.
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You you've completely made my day by just, you know, taking the reins.
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Taking the reins of your own life.
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And for you, your podcast and what you end up doing are going to be so valuable because it
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puts you in front of people every day.
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It's gonna put you out in front of a wider audience than you could ever reach through your
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social media.
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It's gonna get out there.
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You know, once you start talking about, you know, our next level is that we are growing as
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a network.
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Right?
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And I'm learning all of the things behind the scenes of how you bring in the massive
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viewership.
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Right?
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There's tricks to this thing.
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There there's ways that you can do this.
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And and because I was you know, I had a pretty good leg up with the production side of
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podcasting from my years as a musician and just being in that world of recording and editing
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and and producing and broadcasting that now I can focus more attention on how do you make it
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big.
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Right?
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How do you, you know, how do you find the support, you know, financially for these things
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through sponsors, affiliates, or whatever?
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So I'm doing a lot of homework every day too, Jamie.
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It's not just you.
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Yeah.
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But I think better together.
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Right?
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I mean, that, like, that name alone is, like, we are stronger together.
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Like, community.
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Right?
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We look at community, and when we are connecting and bringing in, that's that program
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I've got going on, that superstars program, right, that I can't wait to share with the
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world.
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Which I just love too.
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I we're gonna have to talk about that.
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Put a pin in that because I wanna talk about that today.
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Yeah.
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For sure.
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So it's just we are stronger together.
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Right?
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And democracy at its finest is what came up for me.
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You know, we give it back to the people and have those conversations and and move mountains
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because people are incredible.
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This whole world has been made up.
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So go create your booty off.
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You know?
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Right.
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And no time like the present to do it as the veil is coming off the matrix that we've been
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born and and bred in.
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Right?
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Right.
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Especially, you know, not to get overly political, but to see how much money of our
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money, of our tax money was going back to feed into a propaganda machine to tell us how to
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live our lives.
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Right?
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So if you're you know, I'm I'm 38.
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I'll be 39 this year.
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I know you're a few years older, but now we're same generation, I would say.
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Right?
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And our entire lives have been controlled by a very, very few people.
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Everything that we have watched growing up that we have been taught in our schools, that we
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have had fed to us, that people like us go, this is a wreck.
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That's not what life is.
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That's not what it's like.
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Nothing.
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Right.
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It it just it it never made sense to me.
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It never made sense to me.
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And maybe I read Kerouac too early in life, and that kind of, you know, sparked that.
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It definitely set me on the path to the West Coast, but it it was living in a mostly
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disconnected life.
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And that's probably that time.
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Right?
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As a teenager, I don't I didn't spend a lot of time in front of a TV.
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You know, after that, I was just out in the world.
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I mean, I was experiencing homelessness and drug addiction.
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I wasn't watching ABC and tuning into The Bachelor.
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Right?
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So that wasn't even a that world was never real to me.
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And my world was with broken people, to put it bluntly, and just like myself.
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I mean, I myself was very, very broken.
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I'm I'm starting to mend and heal those pieces, and I owe a huge debt of gratitude to having
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this show to do it.
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Whether it's just me talking with a cohost or it's having a guest on, which you have been or
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or one of our other guests, sharing my life story with people and having them share their
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story with me is changing me.
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It it is affecting me on a DNA level where every single code that gets fed to me unlocks
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something new, and now we get to share that with the world is just what a what a time to be
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alive.
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Oh my gosh.
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Amen.
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Amen, brother.
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Amen.
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Like, I I feel that because through story, through our story, what would what if what were
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we talking about yesterday?
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When it was like, we are living bible.
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Right?
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And I I don't know a lot about the bible.
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I mean, I know some.
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I've studied a little bit on my own.
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I'm not really into organized religion, but what it is is it's like we are living what was
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it you called it?
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The parables.
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Right?
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So Yep.
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We're we're stepping in to these and sharing our stories to help others, and that's exactly
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what the Bible to me is.
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Right?
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And I don't like I said, I don't even know the Bible.
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But it's like, we're sharing these stories.
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We're connecting, and I'm like, oh, I feel that too.
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Oh, I've been through something like that.
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Right?
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And and that's why when, you know, the disciples and followers of Jesus early, you
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know, while he's alive are asking him, why do you speak in parables?
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It and and part of it is because if I just told you the truth with no context and with no human
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connection, you wouldn't get it.
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You you wouldn't get it.
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And not that I'm, like, trying to speak for Jesus here or anything, but but that's why we
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have the parables.
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That's why it was told in that way because we understand thing in stories.
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That's why the movie industry is as big as it is.
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That's why all of these things will grew to that level because that's how on a human level
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we absorb information.
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That's how it gets through to us.
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And now with with podcasts, we are sharing that story one to one.
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It is no longer we're watching a a a program, and they're called programs for a reason.
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Right?
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We're not being fed that from someone else.
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We are able to share that one to one with people that we respect and people that we have
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a connection with.
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That's what this is about.
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That's like it is that's what a podcast is.
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And and I hope that through us continuing to share our stories that it catches on, that it
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just keeps growing.
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And and that's why I say today was such a big moment because my life being changed by
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podcasting has now affected your life, and you are taking the reins of that now.
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And how many lives are you going to change through this?
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And, it's just it was a really cool moment.
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It's probably like watching the the first cellular division, right, of a newborn, you
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know, at conception and then watching that because now we're gonna start multiplying.
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Right?
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Now it's really gonna start taking off as people see Jamie.
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Oh, well, where'd Jamie learn to do that?
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Oh, well, she learned it from Bubba.
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Oh, okay.
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Well, I'm gonna go ask Bubba if he could help me.
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And now we start growing, and eventually, you know, we talked about it yesterday, but a year
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from now, we're probably not the teachers at all where we've taught other people how to be
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lighthouses themselves, and now they are out there and building an army of lighthouses.
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And how how bright will that light be when you have a million of them lined up end to end
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throughout the whole world?
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I mean, it just
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Barbara, it's like a forest fire.
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Right?
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It's like a forest fire, and it's like once it goes and and then it just just lights up and
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all these beautiful humans are talking and and exchanging stories and being real and
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authentic.
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And I gotta do that with Tracy sitting in my office here.
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And it was just incredible.
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And, you know, we connected and hopefully somebody else was moved by that.
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I mean, moved you seeing
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me, like, stepping into this space.
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Yeah.
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There were six people tuning in live that you that you affected.
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Friends of yours.
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Tracy, I'm sure, was affected by it where she's like, man, I could I could do that again.
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Right?
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And whether it's with you or whether it's with her, I know Tracy.
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Right?
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Like, she's got a massive network of people that she could talk to that could share
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infinite wisdom.
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So it was really awesome to just to witness it.
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Right?
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To be here as not the person involved in it this time, but to watch like I said, it's like
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watching my kid play ball, and and you hit a single today.
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Right?
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You had it on the tee, and you hit one, and you got on base.
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And it's like now now let's go learn how to hit home runs, Jamie.
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Let's learn how to knock this out of the park, and then we're gonna teach other people how to
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do that.
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And it's a big reason why, yesterday, I contacted you to be, the new cohost of the show
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because now you're on fire.
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Right?
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And now that you have these two people that are on fire and on the same page, well, we're gonna
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spread that much faster, and it's gonna continue to just keep spreading.
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And we wanna set people on fire.
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I want you to feel it inside like I feel it.
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Right?
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And I wanna give a little piece of this to you.
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There's a meme going around that's like, you know, a candle loses none of its own flame by
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lighting another candle.
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Right?
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And we wanna we wanna be flamethrowers, baby.
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Let's go.
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Yeah.
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I'm so up for that.
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Like, Flamethrowers, letting people know that their gifts their gifts are so worthy of being
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out there, and their voice matters.
21:22
Oh, but their voice matters.
21:23
And I think that that is when I started to kind of open up a little bit and share my story and
21:29
see how it affected other people to where I was connecting with people.
21:33
And I'm like, oh my gosh.
21:34
I've hidden this part of me for so many years.
21:38
And yet, you know, and these thought processes within me.
21:41
Right?
21:42
Like, I kinda shared a little bit, and I shared with you my book that's not that's not done
21:48
yet, but it's coming.
21:49
It's coming.
21:49
But, you know, it was about my realization around pain.
21:54
Right?
21:55
And that the comparison of pain and and how you can show up in your pain and hurt other people,
22:00
and I really wanted to kind of dive deep into that.
22:04
And when I when I realized this piece around pain that you and I, we both everybody on this
22:11
planet has trauma, some kind of a trauma.
22:13
We all feel pain, the same pain.
22:17
We just got there differently.
22:18
That's it.
22:19
We just got there differently, and your pain isn't more valuable than my pain or anything.
22:24
It's it's still pain.
22:25
And so I wanted to start having those conversations.
22:29
Like, how was that pain affecting people?
22:32
How was that happening and destroying families?
22:35
Right?
22:36
And when we're keeping quiet about these things, like, I wanna bring it to the light.
22:41
Right?
22:42
I wanna bring it to the light and and dissolve whatever is going on in there, that darkness
22:47
that you feel shame around or, you know, then you're blaming other people, and it's like, no.
22:52
No.
22:52
I wanna teach people how to come back home to themselves and share those gifts.
22:57
Get rid of the shame.
22:58
Take a bottle brush in there and get it all out.
23:01
You know?
23:02
And that's that's the work, the path of love work that I've done, the awakening of love
23:06
work, you know, really giving people space to to own it, to own their shit, to own their
23:12
their power.
23:13
I never realized I was so afraid of anger.
23:15
I was so afraid of anger.
23:17
And through the path of love work that I've done, I actually found that anger was my
23:23
freaking superpower.
23:24
It was my passion.
23:25
It was there, and it was like, it needed to come out, but I get to choose how I reveal that
23:31
and how it moves me.
23:33
Right?
23:34
And so I don't need to throw it on other people.
23:36
I don't need to throw mud on people or or share their ickies or whatever.
23:44
But when I share my ickies, you know, it helps other people in a kind manner, you know, from a
23:50
place of curiosity and nonjudgment.
23:52
I realized in the world that I was living in, I was judging people on how I was judging myself,
23:58
and I was afraid that other people are judging me.
24:01
I'm like, oh, I got lots of work to do.
24:04
You know what I mean?
24:05
Because I was like, I couldn't even get into a conversation without curiosity, and I was like,
24:09
oh, I got a lot of work.
24:10
You know?
24:11
And that started in 02/2012, I think.
24:13
I was like, oh, whoo.
24:15
It takes so much it takes so much courage just to get to that point where you're like, I have
24:20
work to do.
24:21
Right?
24:22
So so many people go through their whole lives.
24:26
And I think definitely with generations before, right, we were we were married or not, you
24:30
know, our parents and things.
24:32
Right?
24:33
They were holding on to pain from a generation before them.
24:36
And generational trauma doesn't mean that, like, it's just in your DNA and you're carrying
24:41
it that way.
24:42
It's what happened to you.
24:43
It's what happened to you before you even have memories.
24:45
Right?
24:46
A lot of your trauma is at a very early age.
24:49
Right?
24:49
Most kids don't remember being that age at all.
24:52
Most adults don't remember being those ages.
24:55
And you have to carry this pain and then bury it for thirty years, right, you know, or twenty
25:01
five years, and not be able to do anything with it because nobody really even had the tools or
25:07
very few people had the tools.
25:09
And I think that's the beauty of, you know, the self help world that we're in.
25:13
Now just the beauty of the Internet.
25:15
All of the information is out there.
25:17
It's not behind a door.
25:18
It's not, you know, it's not inside of a book cover.
25:22
It's out here.
25:23
It's out here in the world.
25:24
And now as we keep talking about it, it gets even easier to share in the short form stuff of
25:30
how people actually consume thoughts.
25:33
Right?
25:33
So, I mean, I I don't know that it was possible in the world before now, right, to to be able
25:40
to have the tools to transmute your pain because it has to be changed.
25:45
That energy is not going anywhere.
25:47
And we know now that that energy will manifest itself physically inside of your body, cancer
25:52
or pains and aches and all of these things.
25:54
Right?
25:55
So we know that the things that we've been through have affected us.
25:59
We know that they're in there.
26:00
We know if left unchecked that they may very well cause physical harm and even death.
26:06
Right?
26:06
So we have to find a way to bring them out from under the bush.
26:10
Right?
26:12
And to shine a light on them and then to use our tools to transmute that pain into something
26:18
else.
26:18
And for both of us, I think I can speak for you in this way that the way that we're healing
26:24
ourselves is by being that beacon, that lighthouse, that that something to be called
26:31
to.
26:32
Right?
26:32
Because we've been called.
26:33
You know?
26:34
I know that you've had dreams, and and, you know, me, I just keep following God every day.
26:40
Right?
26:40
I wake up and go to the altar every day and pray, and and my God likes stones and rocks and
26:49
burning of incense and, like, that that's that's who my god is.
26:54
Right?
26:54
I'm not telling you who to go follow or that there's a book out there that you need to read
26:59
to get there.
27:00
You know it inside of you.
27:02
And I think that where we're at in life is that everyone knows that feeling that religious
27:07
texts and things have been trying to teach for millennia, right?
27:11
Everyone is aware of that feeling.
27:14
We just tend to put different names on it.
27:16
So I don't care what you call it.
27:19
Right?
27:19
Right.
27:20
But I want you to Yeah.
27:22
Exactly.
27:23
Source.
27:23
Yeah.
27:24
Creator.
27:25
Whatever.
27:26
Right?
27:27
It doesn't it's all the same name for an energy, for a calling, and to Higher than
27:33
us.
27:34
Yeah.
27:34
And to physically manifest that.
27:36
Like, we are the physical manifestation of God.
27:39
Right?
27:39
Right.
27:39
We are that.
27:40
So us communicating with each other and being the perfect expression of God and sharing our
27:46
imperfectness with each other, that's how we get better together.
27:50
Right?
27:51
Like, it's Yes.
27:54
Well, it's hard not to get goosebumps when you're talking about real stuff.
27:57
Right?
27:58
Like, my my back of my head is just on fire right now.
28:02
I've got it too.
28:03
I'm like, oh, I'm feeling it today.
28:05
It's wild.
28:06
And how do you not wanna just live in that all the time?
28:08
Right?
28:09
And that's, I guess, why I'm so adamant about, like, figuring out the business of this whole
28:13
thing and how it makes sense because eventually, there's business people that can do
28:18
that too.
28:19
Like, I'm looking for also people that know that and can do that for us so that Bubba and
28:26
Jamie can just go be on fire and get in front of as many people as we possibly can and share
28:32
this fire so we can start that forest fire and to get it burning and to eventually see where
28:38
that goes.
28:39
Right?
28:40
Like Right.
28:40
That's the vision that we have for this is so much bigger than just two people on a Zoom
28:46
call, but this is a great way to get started.
28:50
Yep.
28:51
That's exactly it.
28:52
I mean, that's we're starting.
28:53
Right?
28:53
And we talked about, you know, when we're learning how to walk.
28:58
You know?
28:58
And like I told you today, like, I I started crawling.
29:01
Like, I'm like, okay.
29:02
I'm gonna learn this.
29:03
I don't know what this is, and I'm gonna do it, though, and I'm gonna step and and and take the
29:07
first step.
29:08
And I think that it's important.
29:11
I think it's important to have those conversations.
29:13
Right?
29:14
I think it's important to when something's calling for you, right, write the letter.
29:18
Write the, you know, write the message on Facebook.
29:21
Right?
29:21
I remember when I just forgot to be really vulnerable on Facebook.
29:25
And people are like, Jamie, you're sharing too much.
29:27
And I'm like, you know, and it was a little scary.
29:29
And so I pulled back.
29:30
And then I was like, no.
29:31
I got to because people started saying, thank you so much.
29:35
Right?
29:35
Not on the Facebook itself, but in a personal message.
29:38
Like, wow.
29:39
You're really helping.
29:41
You helped me.
29:42
And I'm like, okay.
29:43
So I was so nervous, and people did.
29:46
They were kinda nasty, you know, at times or whatever, but I knew that I had to get my
29:50
message out there.
29:52
I knew that I had to start navigating some of this stuff and and and just starting.
29:56
Right?
29:57
And so that's kind of how I've met certain people and and changed lives and and connected
30:02
and had stories and we've shared because I just started being vulnerable and saying this is my
30:10
truth.
30:10
Right?
30:11
I remember the first time I was vulnerable around my my past experience and my trauma as a
30:16
child.
30:17
And I always I mean, I kept that, like, closed down because I didn't want nobody to know.
30:23
I didn't even want my husband.
30:24
I was married to a man, and he didn't even know the things that I had lived through.
30:27
I had no idea.
30:29
I had no idea.
30:29
There was people that knew me for so many years didn't know I was adopted.
30:33
I was adopted at age 11.
30:34
I was so afraid.
30:36
You know what I mean?
30:37
And I started sharing because there was a program and a woman that I just love, Jessica
30:43
Noda Boom, and she she challenged me.
30:46
Right?
30:46
I'm always about challenges.
30:48
You challenge me, and I'm on it.
30:50
You know?
30:50
So but she challenged me because I became a part of the boys and girls club.
30:55
Like, I love children and women.
30:56
Like, I really wanna just uplift children and women and and men too, but I really connected
31:01
with women and and children.
31:04
And Jess said, you know, we've gotta raise $25,000 for these kiddos at the Boys and Girls
31:10
Club.
31:10
And I'm like, I'm out.
31:12
Like, I can't do that.
31:13
Like, I'm barely scraping by right now.
31:15
Like you know?
31:16
And so then I had an idea, and I started sharing my story in front of people and asking
31:22
people to give money to those kids because some of these kids have the same story as me.
31:26
Right?
31:26
And so I said, you know, this is this is my story, and I gave a little bit.
31:30
And I raised $10,000 that year just by myself.
31:34
$10,000 for these kiddos to be a part of this program.
31:38
And now I utilize my building at the Lotus Up to raise money for kids.
31:43
I mean, I've raised thousands of dollars for the boys and girls club.
31:46
Now this year, actually, we're gonna do fireworks for the future is what it's called.
31:50
But I use the deck because it's right on, right in front of the big open cut there in lead.
31:55
They do a big fireworks show, and we use use that space and use my property to raise money.
32:01
We're doing it for post prom for kiddos for next year.
32:06
You know?
32:06
And then I've done Young Life.
32:08
Right?
32:08
I gave a checkout last year for Young Life to bring that to Lee Deadwood.
32:11
And, you know, kids matter.
32:14
People matter.
32:15
Humans matter.
32:16
And utilize what you have, and and I make money because I sell coffee and all the things.
32:21
But I also make money for these kiddos.
32:24
Right?
32:24
Share what we have.
32:26
And that's and that's our future.
32:29
Right?
32:29
It is how much because I've seen on a small scale, we had an event last December where we
32:35
raised some money for a local family.
32:36
They have a daughter diagnosed with type one diabetes.
32:40
Shout out to Haley and Ryan Klima.
32:42
Their daughter, say, Avery.
32:44
Thank you.
32:45
They have a foundation now called Saving Avery that kind of spurned out of the event.
32:49
Look at goosebumps.
32:50
Look at that right here.
32:51
Well and we were able to raise with no marketing, with no major affiliation with any
32:56
of these big, you know, the major media outlets or anything like that.
32:59
Like, nobody was really helping us to do any of that.
33:02
And we raised $2,000 in an evening of just me getting together with my musician friends.
33:07
Right?
33:08
So the fact that I mean, and that's what kinda unlocked it for me.
33:11
That was the first time I'd I'd organized a a bit of a charity event like that, and and now
33:15
I'm doing homework.
33:16
You know, I went to, American Heart Association, the Go Red for Women event a few
33:22
weeks ago or last week in Sioux Falls and watching how they did it.
33:25
And I mean, they raised hundreds of thousands of dollars that night.
33:28
I was like, there's no reason that with our community that we couldn't do that same thing.
33:33
Right?
33:33
And and I think this year, I we have plenty of causes around, but always looking for more
33:38
using our podcast platform to advertise for other charities.
33:43
That's something that I've thrown out there.
33:45
You know, if you have a 501 or you have a charity that thinks, you know, that needs to be
33:50
put out there, we'd love to feature them on ads in our like, it cost us nothing.
33:53
Cost me $0 to put an ad for a charity on our podcast episodes.
33:58
It cost me nothing.
33:59
But I also don't have the time to go and seek out all the charities to to put their name on
34:04
too.
34:04
So kind of put out a call to action, had a few people comment, and I'll do it here again now.
34:09
Right?
34:10
Like, if you have a charity, if you have something that needs to be a benefit or
34:14
anything of that nature, like, that is our function here.
34:18
That that's what I am here for is to to run my mouth for good.
34:23
You know?
34:23
And to to never stop.
34:25
And the and the power of the people.
34:27
Right?
34:28
Isn't that just mind blowing?
34:29
I think that's where the superstars comes in.
34:31
Right?
34:32
I just had this hit, this crazy hit, blah blah blah.
34:35
And I I was in Sioux Falls, got invited to a program called Oda, and, there was a gentleman
34:42
talking about Detroit soup.
34:44
And they these people got together in the arts world and and started just kind of holding
34:50
people up.
34:51
Right?
34:51
Building community, building connection.
34:53
I'm like, I could do that.
34:55
I can do that in my little community.
34:57
And so so I did.
34:59
I asked Kiwanis.
35:01
Tracy Zacker actually was my person of contact, and she went back and and superstars was born.
35:08
Right?
35:08
And then few years later, I took it over as a five zero one c three, started a nonprofit and
35:13
with a small board.
35:14
And and now we have a toolkit for rural communities to do the work.
35:20
And it's people like you and me, $10 at a time.
35:23
It's very transparent, and we go into communities and teach them how to do
35:27
crowdfunding dinners.
35:28
That's what we do, and it builds connection.
35:30
And people talk about their dreams.
35:32
They get five minutes to stand up.
35:34
Spearfish right now has one.
35:35
They bought our first toolkit five years ago, and they have raised, like, 50 plus thousand
35:41
dollars, Bubba, just by people like you and me $10 at a time for amazing things.
35:46
The one they just look at this.
35:47
I have got goosebumps all over.
35:50
Like, it's the power of the people.
35:52
You know?
35:53
Like, people moving people.
35:55
And I think that that sometimes, like, people don't realize how powerful they are.
36:00
Your voice is so powerful, and we get to use it for good.
36:04
We get to use it for things that, you know, will build people up and and support them and
36:08
and and lift them up.
36:11
You know what I mean?
36:11
Because this world is hard, hard enough.
36:14
We don't need to make it harder.
36:15
You know?
36:17
No.
36:17
We don't.
36:18
No.
36:19
And and, you know, guys like Tony Robbins, who I know you're a huge fan of, like, if words
36:23
didn't have power, he wouldn't be a bazillionaire.
36:27
Right?
36:27
You know what I mean?
36:28
Like Yeah.
36:29
The man
36:30
and he has a story too.
36:32
Like, you and I.
36:33
I mean, he's got a story.
36:35
Yeah.
36:35
And share and and sharing that story is is how he changed lives and realizing, you know, early
36:42
on before the Internet or anything that this is, you know, what what he chose to do with his
36:48
life.
36:49
And I'm so so grateful for people like him to to be that beacon for us to look to and go, oh,
36:55
no.
36:55
We can this is how we make people better.
36:58
Okay.
36:58
We get it now.
36:59
Thank you, Tony.
37:00
Thank you.
37:00
We're now we're Tony.
37:01
Yeah.
37:02
And now we have the ability to do that and to keep growing, you know, this little podcast
37:08
following and to grow it into a big community where we can start to go and to visit areas
37:14
personally and to bring ourselves physically and to bring these these, you know, online
37:18
communities, to a physical reality.
37:21
Right?
37:22
To to a space.
37:22
And and then, like, talk about how that room you just everybody should be swimming in
37:27
goosebumps that day.
37:29
Yes.
37:30
Amen.
37:31
That's exactly.
37:32
And I feel that, and I know that that is coming.
37:35
Like, I just do.
37:35
And when I met you and we both had the same vision, I was like, wait.
37:39
You have that vision too?
37:40
Like, I have that vision.
37:41
You know what I mean?
37:42
Like, it was just so beautiful how we were so connected on that level, you know, and what you
37:47
and your wife are doing and and some of the people that I'm connected with and we're doing.
37:52
And I just it's so incredible.
37:54
So incredible.
37:56
And and and it builds an incredible community.
37:58
And that's what I think that we're realizing is that when we kind of combine our powers now and
38:04
in coming together that we have amplified not just ourselves, but our communities.
38:10
Right?
38:10
And and granted ours has a lot of overlap to it as well, you know, to put together an event or
38:16
retreat or a summit or anything in the Black Hills would be very easy for us to accomplish.
38:21
Right?
38:21
I have a very big, you know, loyal following there as well as well as you do.
38:26
And, you know, that's maybe that's the the next step.
38:30
Right?
38:30
Build out this podcast following a little bit further and to come up with a nice framework of
38:36
of the message that we want to deliver and then to just keep doing it.
38:40
Like and just I don't ever wanna stop doing what I'm doing now.
38:45
I I I can't.
38:46
I can't stop.
38:47
So I have to find a way to make it make a little money so that we don't lose our house in
38:52
the meantime.
38:54
Right.
38:55
Yeah.
38:55
No joke.
38:56
And that's a true thing.
38:57
Right?
38:57
I mean, people are looking at that too and and that fear, but it's not letting that fear take
39:02
us out.
39:02
Like, understanding that there's some something so much higher than me.
39:06
And that's the thing, like, we talked about yesterday around, you know, conversations that
39:11
I've had and just with my next level collective, you know, that program that I just,
39:17
launched in January.
39:18
I mean, I I just onboarded nine women nine women into this program and have the
39:24
opportunity to go into corporate, which is just beautiful and brilliant, teaching people how to
39:30
communicate, right, with each other and coach each other and be there for each other, bring
39:33
connection.
39:34
And that's that's that's my purpose on this planet.
39:37
And, yeah, it's like having people be inspired by people, by their stories.
39:43
It's what we're doing.
39:44
You know?
39:46
We're teaching people how to be better humans.
39:49
Yeah.
39:50
Yeah.
39:51
Because I think people do.
39:52
I mean but there's so much fear in the world.
39:55
And if you can get away from that fear and be like, no.
39:57
You know?
39:58
And and that's the thing is that I kept learning that I never did it for the money.
40:02
The money didn't drive me.
40:03
I mean, yeah, it's nice or whatever, and there was moments where, like, money was a thing, but
40:08
I don't know why.
40:09
I just had this, like, total understanding, and maybe it's because I came from nothing.
40:13
I don't know.
40:14
But, like, there was this deeper understanding that I'd be taken care of.
40:18
Right?
40:18
And I have over and over and over again when it looks so glam like, gloomy and nasty.
40:25
All of a sudden, I get a check-in the mail for $25,000, or, you know, I overpaid my taxes.
40:30
That happened.
40:31
I was like, what?
40:32
Like, how do you do that?
40:34
You know what I mean?
40:35
And then it was like, okay.
40:36
Like, okay.
40:38
When COVID hit.
40:39
Right?
40:39
I mean, that's a real thing for people.
40:41
Every bit of community thought process I had was challenged.
40:45
I was in a bad place, baba.
40:47
I was in a bad place because I wasn't I just had launched the superstars, and now they're
40:52
telling me I can't bring people together, and I was a wreck.
40:57
I was a wreck.
40:57
I wasn't able to challenge some of those things.
40:59
I was too afraid.
41:01
And as I was navigating, my coffee house was actually on, like, on fire serving people.
41:08
I mean, we were serving so many people out of drive through window.
41:11
Thank you Jesus for putting in a drive through window.
41:14
I mean, people needed that connection, and I had it.
41:18
I had it.
41:18
I kept every one of my employees moving.
41:21
I they were moving and and working and doing all the things.
41:24
Like, I just I'm so grateful.
41:27
So grateful.
41:29
I,
41:30
like,
41:30
get teary eyed.
41:31
Yeah.
41:32
Well and I'm so grateful to not just know you, Jamie, but to consider you a friend and to have
41:38
you now as the cohost of Get Better Together and just keep growing.
41:42
You know?
41:43
We we both could be hosting 12 podcasts with all the directions that we could go, and maybe
41:49
we'll get there one day.
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But we're gonna focus on, this one together and then getting yours, really moving and walking.
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Right?
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That's our next step.
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You're crawling now.
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It's, you're gonna be grabbing onto furniture and kinda hobbling along real soon.
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And before you'll know it, you'll be flying.
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So Yeah.
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Thank you.
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Well, thank you everybody for tuning in today this episode.
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project.
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Bye.
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Thank you.