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Bob Nightengale: Buxton upset with Twins? Gallen’s 1-year deal, Padres get Castellanos for revenge tour · Foul Territory

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about Nick Castianos. We were
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: talking about, you know, after his divorce from the Phillies,
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: the Padres landed him, and you put and you wrote
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: in your article the Padres were elated to land a
• 0:13
  Speaker 1: quote baller like Nick Castianos. What was your read on
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: this and him fitting into that clubhouse because as a
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: lot of people have talked about, you know, with personalities
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: like Manny Machado or Fernando Tatis, that seems like a
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: clubhouse he might fit into.
• 0:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, you know, he and Manny grew up together.
• 0:30
  Speaker 2: I mean since you know, nine years old, played against
• 0:32
  Speaker 2: each other, you tournaments and everything else, so they know
• 0:35
  Speaker 2: each other well, you know, being born and raised in Miami. Hey,
• 0:39
  Speaker 2: you know the A. J. Peller did a lot of
• 0:41
  Speaker 2: a research. He talked to coaches who had him, players
• 0:45
  Speaker 2: that played with them and saying, you know what, perfect
• 0:48
  Speaker 2: you know, you get a freebie like many Manchatto said,
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: you know, pennies on the dollar, so it's a no risk. Then,
• 0:55
  Speaker 2: you know, they didn't know about the beer incident, but
• 0:57
  Speaker 2: you know, like Eric and Aj said, you know, no
• 0:59
  Speaker 2: big deal. I remember back in the day come the Royals.
• 1:03
  Speaker 2: The guy was pitching no hitter, and he cracked open
• 1:05
  Speaker 2: a couple of beers on the bench. He's not that
• 1:08
  Speaker 2: big a deal, so I think they thought things got
• 1:12
  Speaker 2: way overblown in Philadelphia. This just gives him a fresh start.
• 1:16
  Speaker 3: He's excited, and it's definitely first base because this team's configuration,
• 1:22
  Speaker 3: he's not he's not playing right field. He's definitely not
• 1:25
  Speaker 3: getting in even the fourth outfielder. So first base is
• 1:29
  Speaker 3: a position that, like you said, it's not even really
• 1:32
  Speaker 3: if he doesn't do well, they can cut him and
• 1:34
  Speaker 3: it's they're not on the hook for anything.
• 1:38
  Speaker 2: Right. But in ty France this morning, Uh so I
• 1:41
  Speaker 2: think they're you're planning to play him on your left field.
• 1:43
  Speaker 2: I think he's gonna see a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Of d H.
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  Speaker 2: So I agree. I mean, uh, Tatis, you know, plays
• 1:49
  Speaker 2: plays a lot. So it's not like he's going to
• 1:51
  Speaker 2: be needing right field. You know, maybe once every few
• 1:54
  Speaker 2: weeks something like that. But I think the big thing
• 1:56
  Speaker 2: would be more DH than anything else.
• 2:01
  Speaker 5: That makes sense, Bob. On this team, they need a
• 2:04
  Speaker 5: first basement, right, they need a first basement. The outfield
• 2:06
  Speaker 5: stack DH can be covered with sheets or whoever they
• 2:09
  Speaker 5: want to use it for. I like this move for
• 2:12
  Speaker 5: the Padres. It's a no lose situation. If he stinks
• 2:15
  Speaker 5: they're like eh, you can always release them and have
• 2:18
  Speaker 5: them move on and try something else.
• 2:19
  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 5: So I mean, listen, I know this as somebody that's
• 2:23
  Speaker 5: had things said about me in the past. When you
• 2:25
  Speaker 5: go to a new team, you go and you say, Okay,
• 2:28
  Speaker 5: what did people say about me?
• 2:29
  Speaker 6: Okay, well maybe.
• 2:30
  Speaker 5: This is whatever, And you look yourself in the mirror
• 2:32
  Speaker 5: and say, maybe this is true, maybe it's not. But
• 2:34
  Speaker 5: then you go and at least for one year that
• 2:37
  Speaker 5: Castian is gonna be on his best behavior. I would think,
• 2:39
  Speaker 5: not that he's a bad guy anyways. He just says
• 2:41
  Speaker 5: what he means. He's honest with people, and people don't
• 2:44
  Speaker 5: like honesty. Bob, trust me, I know that right. He's honest.
• 2:47
  Speaker 5: He tells people where they stand, he tells people what
• 2:49
  Speaker 5: they think. And everybody in today's game world, however you
• 2:53
  Speaker 5: want to put it, wants to be told you're the best,
• 2:55
  Speaker 5: you're the best. Nobody wants to hear that, hey, you
• 2:56
  Speaker 5: know what, you're not very.
• 2:57
  Speaker 6: Good at that. Work on it. And so I like this.
• 3:00
  Speaker 5: I think it stirs up the clubhouse a little bit,
• 3:02
  Speaker 5: especially if Manny's on board, because one of the things
• 3:04
  Speaker 5: that you know, and I know from being around San
• 3:05
  Speaker 5: Diego a little bit, is you need Manny on board
• 3:08
  Speaker 5: to make things work with the Padres.
• 3:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's certainly his clubhouse. You know, he's got me
• 3:13
  Speaker 2: on bored. You know, we all know about the Soto
• 3:17
  Speaker 2: things with him and Manning and to tease that sort
• 3:19
  Speaker 2: of thing. But yeah, I think Manning's excited to he's
• 3:22
  Speaker 2: excited and uh, you know, look we didn't hear an
• 3:25
  Speaker 2: these things going on in Philadelphia. Have things with that
• 3:27
  Speaker 2: bad and with the Phillies they could trade him or
• 3:30
  Speaker 2: release them during the season, so you know, things kind
• 3:33
  Speaker 2: of got blown up. I think, you know, big time
• 3:37
  Speaker 2: once he left. I mean, how many times we hear
• 3:40
  Speaker 2: that when when players leave and managers get fired, we
• 3:43
  Speaker 2: hear things. You know, it should have been said at
• 3:45
  Speaker 2: the time, you know, not now when he's gone.
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  Speaker 3: One of the things people need to understand is then
• 3:50
  Speaker 3: Nick got to choose this. Nick didn't get placed on
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  Speaker 3: the Padres or the Padres didn't offer more money. I
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  Speaker 3: think people really understand that part of it was this
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  Speaker 3: Nick's best option of a team that was good. Have
• 4:02
  Speaker 3: you heard or talk to Nick or talk to anybody else,
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  Speaker 3: and the other options that he had.
• 4:08
  Speaker 2: He said he talked to a couple of other teams there.
• 4:09
  Speaker 2: I can't say what it was, but I think that
• 4:11
  Speaker 2: Pottery's was so aggressive. I an Aj Probler yesterday said
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  Speaker 2: that he was talking with Dave Dobrowski and says November
• 4:18
  Speaker 2: just never lined up on a trade. And I think
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  Speaker 2: the thing was, I'm sure he thought, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: we know he's not going back to Philadelphia. Well, summone
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  Speaker 2: trade for him. We're gonna gamble that gets released, got released,
• 4:30
  Speaker 2: and eight pounced on it. You know, he was released
• 4:32
  Speaker 2: on Thursday. They were in a conference call, you know,
• 4:34
  Speaker 2: Friday morning, and then you know, boom playing right out
• 4:37
  Speaker 2: uh to Arizona. So I think it, you know, I
• 4:40
  Speaker 2: think it was a natural fit. You know, probably from
• 4:42
  Speaker 2: last month or two.
• 4:46
  Speaker 1: All right, Bob, when you first joined, we were going
• 4:48
  Speaker 1: to ask you about Zach Gallen and then we.
• 4:51
  Speaker 2: Couldn't hear you.
• 4:52
  Speaker 1: So we'll ask you again about Zach Gallen. You know,
• 4:55
  Speaker 1: every off season we talked about this. At least one
• 4:58
  Speaker 1: free agent who rejects a qualifying offer can can get a.
• 5:01
  Speaker 2: Little bit burned. But what did you make of Zach.
• 5:04
  Speaker 1: Gallen returning to the Diamondbacks. You know, AJ and Eric
• 5:07
  Speaker 1: talked a lot about how it's a comfortable place for
• 5:12
  Speaker 1: him to be. He knows the staff, everybody knows him.
• 5:15
  Speaker 1: It's easier to make adjustments there. What's your take on
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  Speaker 1: that situation?
• 5:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, agree, she was the only one person against burn
• 5:22
  Speaker 2: every year, and he's he was a guy, uh you
• 5:25
  Speaker 2: know in Arizona. Finally say you know what, here's the deadline. Well,
• 5:28
  Speaker 2: we want you to sign by the weekend or forget
• 5:31
  Speaker 2: about it. We're not you know, we're extending money for you. So,
• 5:34
  Speaker 2: you know, fourteen million dollars was deferred. Obviously, would have
• 5:37
  Speaker 2: been better off just taking the uh, you know, the
• 5:40
  Speaker 2: qualifying offer from the get go. He thought he'd get
• 5:42
  Speaker 2: a you know, long term contract. You know, so did
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  Speaker 2: the agent, Scott Borris. You know, I did too, and uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, some teams came, you know, kind of low
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  Speaker 2: ball and multi year offers, but not at twenty two
• 5:54
  Speaker 2: a year. So you better himself, you know. He said,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, I'm going to hit the market again.
• 5:58
  Speaker 2: And I agree with the agent. He said, I think
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: he's gonna have a monster year, and I think he's
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: going to have a big time chip on his shoulder
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  Speaker 2: and said, hey, you could have me, you could have me,
• 6:07
  Speaker 2: let me show what you're missing out on. Uh. You know,
• 6:09
  Speaker 2: he's a Philadelphia area and kid, and he pitches his
• 6:12
  Speaker 2: best when he's facing the big boys like the Yankees
• 6:15
  Speaker 2: and Mets things like that. So I think he's going
• 6:18
  Speaker 2: to have a spectacular here.
• 6:20
  Speaker 3: He was on our show and he actually had on
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  Speaker 3: his phone a list of teams that he had a
• 6:24
  Speaker 3: little bit of a chip on his shoulder about. I
• 6:27
  Speaker 3: think that list probably has gone to about twenty eight.
• 6:31
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's mad at the Rockies that. I
• 6:33
  Speaker 3: think he's fine with how whatever happened with the Rockies?
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  Speaker 6: Is this?
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  Speaker 3: Is this because there's always one there's always one person
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  Speaker 3: each year? Is this enough to get rid of the
• 6:43
  Speaker 3: qualifying offer because there's somebody like this? I get it
• 6:46
  Speaker 3: more than one could have this happen to him. But really,
• 6:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, Zach Allen's the one unfortunate. But do they
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  Speaker 3: change entire qualifying offer because one of fifteen or fourteen
• 6:58
  Speaker 3: to seventeen guys however many got them each year, get
• 7:01
  Speaker 3: screwed because of the qualifying offer.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's going to go away. Remember now, in
• 7:07
  Speaker 2: the last cbamus League Baseball said we'll get with the
• 7:10
  Speaker 2: qualifying offer if we can have an international draft, and
• 7:14
  Speaker 2: that was debated back and forth with the Union and
• 7:16
  Speaker 2: everything else, and the side the international draft was more important.
• 7:20
  Speaker 2: Several agents were upsets. Oh my god, it's going to
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  Speaker 2: hurt free agency. And sure enough. I mean watch all
• 7:26
  Speaker 2: the offers that will pour in for Gallon next year,
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: you know, just like you know, brag me these guys
• 7:31
  Speaker 2: that had those qualifying offers and had to take the
• 7:33
  Speaker 2: opt outs. So no, I do believe it's going to
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  Speaker 2: go away. It's just too big a restriction on players.
• 7:40
  Speaker 2: And there's so many teams. I mean, Atlanta they really
• 7:43
  Speaker 2: badly need them, but they had the twenty fourth pick
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  Speaker 2: in the draft and they weren't going to forfeit that
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  Speaker 2: trade or not porfit, but give up that draft pick
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  Speaker 2: for anybody, whether it was Dylan Cees, Framer Bell Deads
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  Speaker 2: or anybody. That's how important those drapt picks are.
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  Speaker 5: Bob mentioned that in the last CBA it was discussed,
• 9:02
  Speaker 5: and I remember they changed some of the things about
• 9:04
  Speaker 5: you can't get more than one, and if you're traded,
• 9:06
  Speaker 5: you can't have a qualifying offer, and there was a
• 9:08
  Speaker 5: lot of things that they kind of made tweaks to
• 9:10
  Speaker 5: in the last CBA. Well, the CBA, as we all know,
• 9:12
  Speaker 5: is up in December. What is something that the owners
• 9:16
  Speaker 5: would need to get that power back to. I mean,
• 9:20
  Speaker 5: I know the World Draft, but I just don't know
• 9:22
  Speaker 5: that that's ever going to be a thing because of
• 9:25
  Speaker 5: the way the Latin American countries are scouted and guys
• 9:27
  Speaker 5: are signed Japanese guys. But is there something else the
• 9:30
  Speaker 5: players could say, Hey, we hate this qualifying offer, we'll
• 9:33
  Speaker 5: give you besides a salary cap obviously.
• 9:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think international draft that won't is that
• 9:40
  Speaker 2: big to players. I mean, you know, we know a
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: lot of players that get upset when setting guys over
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: from you know, Cuba and different things like that and
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: don't work out, and things like, hey, if you were
• 9:51
  Speaker 2: born to raise this country, you know you're going to
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: get a maximum signing bonus and a draft where if
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: you come from a foreign country there's no limit when
• 9:59
  Speaker 2: they give you. So I think they'll give that up.
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: They really do, and I think that's all it takes.
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: I don't think that's that big of a give for
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: the Players Association to say, Okay, you can have international draft.
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: We don't want that qualifying offer. We don't want restrictions
• 10:15
  Speaker 2: on free agency ever. Again, I think just too big
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: of a burden. And I think of all the guys
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: who you know, and the qualifying offer attached to him,
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: I think it definitely hurt Gallon by far the most,
• 10:26
  Speaker 2: and nobody else that really came up, but with him,
• 10:29
  Speaker 2: that's all you're heard from everybody was I don't want
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: to give up those raph picks.
• 10:34
  Speaker 3: I want to circle back to the Padres real quick
• 10:36
  Speaker 3: and hit aj Preller aj Prellys comments from you know,
• 10:40
  Speaker 3: from Manny Machado about a J Pereller. Nobody can deny
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: that a J Peller wants to win. Is this season
• 10:48
  Speaker 3: or the coming seasons of the extension and everything all
• 10:51
  Speaker 3: that stuff for him happens. Is this his fault if
• 10:56
  Speaker 3: they lose ultimately some players, but is it his fault
• 10:59
  Speaker 3: if they win? Also because of what's been written about
• 11:02
  Speaker 3: him about how he butts heads, He's been through a
• 11:04
  Speaker 3: lot of managers and they haven't gotten to the place
• 11:07
  Speaker 3: where this roster should be, which is a world series.
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean not too many gms. I'm not sure
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: I can think of when that survived that many manager changes. Well,
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: I think he's fourth or fifth manager. That usually doesn't happen.
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: Usually get two and that's it. They've been knocking the door. Obviously,
• 11:26
  Speaker 2: they sell out most of the games, so financially they're doing
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: well at the gate. You know, it's not his fault.
• 11:31
  Speaker 2: The TV money kind of went away in San Diego.
• 11:34
  Speaker 2: They should have knocked off the Dodgers two years ago,
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: up two games a one in the best of five series.
• 11:40
  Speaker 2: Dodgers in a bullfing game, no Freddie Freeman and blow
• 11:44
  Speaker 2: him out. And then of course one game five, two zero,
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: even though you darbage pitch so well. So they're knocking
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: the door. They're in the playoffs. They spend a lot
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: of money. I mean when Peter Salder was alive, it
• 11:56
  Speaker 2: was almost like the George Darmer days. Get whoever you want.
• 12:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, the only reason they got Xander Bogart so
• 12:02
  Speaker 2: he got two hundred million dollars is good. They were
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: offering over three hundred and fifty million dollars for Trade Turner,
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: and they were going to go over four hundred million
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: even more for Aaron Judge, but he want to go
• 12:13
  Speaker 2: back to the Yankees. So they spend amount of money.
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: You know, now they're kind of, you know, up against it.
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: So I think a year from now will be very
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: be fascinating to see what big contract has to go.
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: And the one guy here he talks about Strtis because
• 12:28
  Speaker 2: his contract is certainly tradable.
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: All right, bob Let's transition to the Twins a little bit.
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: We've heard a lot about this Byron Buxton thing, how
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: he was upset, you know, with the Twins for basically
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: not declaring their loyalty to him, because he felt that
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: he did that for them, you know, when he told
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: the media in the off season and during the season
• 12:51
  Speaker 1: last year that he wasn't going anywhere. He was a
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: little upset that the Twins didn't come out and say, yeah,
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: we want him to stay here, like blatantly. Right, They
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: said that they were hoping he would. But in my mind,
• 13:03
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, isn't that understandable that the Twins didn't come
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: out and say that, because you know, everybody is on
• 13:09
  Speaker 1: the table and they'll listen to offers from other teams.
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: What was your take on that?
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, nowadays it seems like, you know, players
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: are more sensitive to that sort of thing. I mean,
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: they had apologized to get tell Martine Arizona for listening
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: to offers. But Buckston had a you know, no trade class.
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: He was just upset to the Twins and say, hey,
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: you know we're not moving you under any reason. Uh,
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: no circumstance will change that. So he was upset by that.
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: And there were teams that were telling him, hey, hey,
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: waiter trade class to Dodgers waider trade class. Here, we'll
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: take you in a hurry. But those Minnesota you should
• 13:45
  Speaker 2: you should get rewarded for that. But I remember when
• 13:47
  Speaker 2: Kevin Towers was a GM, the San Diego potter Is,
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: and he would tell teams, hey, you want to make
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: an offer for Tony Gwym, You want to make an
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: offer for Trevor Hoffin, go ahead. You know, I don't
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: think there's any way up. We'll move them. But sudden
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: blows away, well sure, think about it. So a lot
• 14:02
  Speaker 2: of jams will say, you know what, we'll listen to everybody.
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: And maybe that's what the Twins were thinking too. Okay,
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: if somebody blows his away from Buckston, let's see if
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: he wants to leave.
• 14:12
  Speaker 5: But Bob, why does it matter. He's Byron bucks He
• 14:14
  Speaker 5: has a no trade clause. Who cares if they say
• 14:17
  Speaker 5: they're like get like, I don't understand why we're mad.
• 14:19
  Speaker 5: Like Byron Buckson is a great player, but why are
• 14:22
  Speaker 5: we you have a full no trade. Guess what, Byron?
• 14:25
  Speaker 5: If you don't ever wave it, you're a twin for life.
• 14:27
  Speaker 5: So why does the team have to come out and
• 14:29
  Speaker 5: say we're not gonna trade him before they even trade you.
• 14:33
  Speaker 5: They'll have to do what they had to do to
• 14:34
  Speaker 5: Nolan Arnado. Hey, Nolan, will you go here?
• 14:37
  Speaker 6: No? I don't want to go there? Okay, will you
• 14:39
  Speaker 6: go here?
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: No?
• 14:40
  Speaker 6: I don't. I'm gonna stay here in Minnesota.
• 14:42
  Speaker 5: And he has that right until the end of time
• 14:44
  Speaker 5: unless they release him and eat the money, which the
• 14:46
  Speaker 5: way the Twins are going, they need to save every penny, Bob,
• 14:48
  Speaker 5: So tell your son not to like get a pretzel
• 14:50
  Speaker 5: at the concession stand or anything, because they might charge
• 14:53
  Speaker 5: him double. Okay, but you see what I'm saying, Like
• 14:56
  Speaker 5: he has the like I don't understand why this is
• 14:58
  Speaker 5: a thing, Like, oh, they didn't say to me that
• 15:00
  Speaker 5: I'm not getting traded Byen you have the power you
• 15:03
  Speaker 5: don't have.
• 15:04
  Speaker 6: You'll never be traded if you don't want to be traded.
• 15:06
  Speaker 5: You can sit right there in Minnesota, fish out on
• 15:08
  Speaker 5: Minnetonka right, go to Maynards, go to wherever you want
• 15:12
  Speaker 5: in Minneapolis and have a great time, and you can
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: be a twin for life.
• 15:15
  Speaker 6: Buddy.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: I think players now just want that kind of support.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: They want the Twins, like you said, even though he
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: has a bower. They want the Twins to come out
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: and say, oh, there's no way in the world will
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: ever trade you. We love you. Then you just players
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: like you want that. I look at Philadelphia, you know,
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: when Date Dobrowski, you know, talked about Bryce Harper helpfully
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: become an elite player again. I think it was a
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: big deal. Sort of that kind of stuff went on forever,
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: but obviously it bothered Harper and he still talked about
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: it extensively yesterday. So I just think it's a different,
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: you know, time and life for players. You know, so
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: a lot different from when you know you played AJ
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: and Eric too, nobody worried about those things, but now
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: I think just everybody's very sensitive.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: Let's take both of those stories, and I want your
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: resolution of both of those stories. Buxton saying what he said,
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: and I agree with AJ. It's kind of like whatever,
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: like it's totally fine, you have all the power. And
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: Bryce Harper being called not elite? Is this the first
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: stepping stone to maybe a time when Byron Buxton changes
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: his mind and says, you know what, I'll play after
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: this season he has two more years, I'll go play
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: somewhere that wants to win. And is there something that
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: could possibly come of the Bryce Harper you know rift
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: or tiff that's going on?
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know Harper still remember you want
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: extension years ago and they said, come on, you said
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: that contract, you didn't want the opt out clause, so
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: nothing really came about it. I still don't think Harper
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: leaving there. I still think he's the you know, face
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: of the franchise obviously, you know, with Kyle Schwarber so
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: beloved there, and I think he likes playing Philadelphia too.
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: He loves that intensity. Nember when both of them were
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: free agent, it's called Harper Machado. I think worked out perfectly.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: I think Harper would have been bored on his mind and
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: seeing Diego, and I'm not sure Manchada would have loved
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: playing in Philadelphia. So worked out great. Busting in our hand,
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: you know, all you got to do is look at
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: both you know Texas and met straight Brandon Nemo had
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: a no trade class too. Obviously something sent him off
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: where he say, you know what, I want to go.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: Samon didn't have no trade cost those two places, but
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: he was probably willing to go to New York. So
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: it could be a case here too where if he's
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: a little discreunted, he can say, you know what, I'm
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: from Atlanta. If Atlanta wants me, I love, I love
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: to go there. You know, keep it quiet, but that
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: we leave. I mean colech Gray had no trade class too.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: It wasn't until Houston came out and say wait a minute, now, uh,
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: you know what's going to happen here he was even
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: thinking about leaving at all. And when they present it
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: to him, he jumped at the opportunity.
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: All right, Bob, let's talk about where you're at right now.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: You're obviously at the Angels camp. And we've heard a
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: lot about Mike Trout in the news a lot recently,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: whether it's talking about center Field, whether it's talking about
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: the WBC. What's the latest with Mike Trout that you're
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: hearing from Angels Camp.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Well, he met with the Perrymanesium in the GM and
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: also with the versus Zuk and the new manager, and said,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: I want to go back to centerfield, and they said, okay,
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: let's work that out. So he plans to play center
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: field now for four or five days a week. He
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: was bored as a DH. They said he was taking
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: thousands of swings during the game. He hated being in
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: DH and he had the worst year of his career.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: His best year was twenty twenty two when he played
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: centerfield for about her and twenty games. So did that's
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: try it? He feels healthy, so he's going to be
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: back in center field WBC. He says he badly wanted
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: to do it, but the insurance was a hang up.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: He's very disappointed. He loved being there in twenty twenty three.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: He kind of feels takes pride that so many guys
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: want to do it now because they had so much
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: fun in twenty twenty three. But you know, insurance reasons.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: Insurance reasons stopped it, and he wasn't going to be
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: you know, the every day you know outfield anyway with
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: that as loaded as that team is. But he's certainly
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: wanted to be.
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: On it, Bob, How could can the Angels be? I mean,
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: they're they're they're kind of in a tough spot right
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: with the Astros, the Mariners, the Rangers are supposed to
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: be should be better this year.
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: What what?
• 19:26
  Speaker 5: What can the Angels be in this division? I know
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: they've tried to make some move, some of their young
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: guys have gotten to take another year, another step, But
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: can the Angels actually compete this year in that Al
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: West which is getting has been good and continues to
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: get better.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: I think it moved closer to five hundred. I don't
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: think they can contempt a division. They're still parrolls still
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: pretty low. You know, they got Rhythm and Dome contract,
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: but it's not like they spent that money. You know,
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: Redomet contract has now deferred. But I think their pared
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: roll is only about one hundred forty eight million dollars,
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: so well before the luxury tax threshold. So I just
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: don't think they want to spend money yet because you
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: don't think they're ready to contend. So I think they're
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: making some slow progress things like that, but I just
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: can't see them being a true contender, and you know,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: and challenging Seattle marriage or Houston Astros, or even Texas
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: for that matter.
• 20:25
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• 20:57
  Speaker 1: You got Dan Wilson, John Schneider, Stephen Ute, Craig Albernas.
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: What do you think aj?
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: Where's Will Venable on that list?
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: Kevin Cash, Patricia But I think Albernas to me is
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: the one on this list. It makes sense just because
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: he's going to a team that's supposed to be super talented,
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: right they've kind of underachieved last year. If he gets
• 21:18
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• 21:21
  Speaker 5: supposed to win votes won two years in a row.
• 21:23
  Speaker 5: They're not going to give him the repeat. I don't
• 21:25
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• 21:28
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• 21:31
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• 21:33
  Speaker 3: Hundred yep one hundred percent and I was boring, but
• 21:38
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• 21:40
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• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Craig Albernas has a playoff team. If he gets him there,
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: the voters will vote for him.
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: Isn't ironic that they're together, they're the same odds and
• 21:54
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• 21:55
  Speaker 6: Isn't that funny? It's funny. I think they have a
• 21:59
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