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TWR Monday | A Nation Reflects: The Impact of Charlie Kirk's Assassination · The Whitfield Report

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  But giving offense is good. In fact, it's essential.
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  Hello everyone, Welcome to the Monday edition of the Whitfield
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  Report. I don't know about y'all, but
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  it's been a, it's been kind of a, a bit of a crazy past couple
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  days to put it. You know why, even since we last
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  talked. But you know, Max is here
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  joining me for the Monday show, which rarely happens.
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  But I appreciate you joining me, brother.
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  I thought I got thrown out of this joint or something, it's
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  been a while. Yeah, no.
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  Well. I wish it was under more joyous
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  circumstances, although it's been it has been a strange week,
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  I'll grant you that, Sir. Yeah, and you know, I, we were,
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  we were just kind of cracking jokes a little bit before off
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  air. So I, I guess we're, you know,
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  to be honest, like here's the thing.
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  I, I I guess I'm not ready like to fully like return to form.
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  It's it's been a whirlwind of emotions for me as I'm sure has
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  just you and everyone else. The last time we talked, like
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  literally the shad literally just hit the fan.
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  And like, I, I still have not uploaded the audio episode to
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  Spotify for that one. I will.
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  I will probably tonight. But yeah, man, it's just been
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  kind of a wild past couple days. How have you, how have you been
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  holding up I guess is my question.
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  Certainly there's been a lot of people able to sort of voice
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  their thoughts and the vigils all weekend worldwide was wild
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  to see. Yeah.
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  It turns out we, we, our side, we, we don't riot, we, we pray.
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  And they make fun of praying, by the way, when they do thoughts
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  and prayers and they're always mocking of it.
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  You notice it's the consistent strategy, though, is we don't
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  burn down the city and we don't steal a bunch of sneakers and we
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  don't beat people up who are wearing a hat.
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  We we pray. Yeah, but but, Max, what about
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  what about January 6th? Because that that whole tired
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  meme has come up, come up again, like right.
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  Well, which they're. Parking up the wrong tree on
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  this here show because we defended them guys from day one.
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  Yeah, yeah. What?
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  About it? What about it?
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  They didn't shoot anybody in the chest when they were sitting
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  trying to talk, did they? No, actually the only person
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  that did that on January 6th shoot somebody was one of the
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  capital officers to Ashley Babbitt.
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  Right. Yeah.
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  We want to compare the J6 thing to fucking Charlie Kirk.
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  It's not even close. Well, no, it's not, but.
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  They can say it is all they want, but you know what I've
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  noticed? The biggest thing of all I've
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  noticed when people say things are strange is that I think what
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  people are noticing is that normal people see through their.
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  Bullshit about it. Well, well, you don't you want
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  to know what's what's? I don't know whether to call it
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  like a glass half full moment because it's truly it truly is
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  despicable. But like all these demonic
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  psychos who are going out there like on Instagram and TikTok,
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  like laughing about, you know, literally laughing.
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  You know, it used to be a kind of of it used to be a meme that
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  people make fun of Alex Jones for calling the left like
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  demonic psychos. And I think now more than ever,
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  like normies are waking up to the fact that like.
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  You can't just lie to people's faces and expect them to believe
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  it forever. No, you're.
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  More than welcome to interject whenever you would like.
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  Yes, please first. I'd like to say it's been tough
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  week for you and you've gone through a lot of emotions with
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  it. And I'm proud that you do want
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  to say something at all because I know it's been, she's been a
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  little, little nervous and stuff.
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  And as we all have, you know, because to see him before the
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  show, it's because he was a regular guy.
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  He wasn't a politician. And to normal people, that's a
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  very scary proposition. So I just want.
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  Yeah. I, I stayed off social media
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  pretty much four days. I just the, the, the last straw
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  for me was that we were on the show.
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  I was sitting right here and my cousin had posted about what
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  happened and I was very thankful to read what she had said and
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  scrolling and the only thing that I've ever seen of his
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  assassination which I praise, the only thing I see was just
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  like a still shot of after he got hit and.
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  And that's enough. And I was like, that's, that's
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  enough Internet for me today. Yeah.
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  And that's why he was like, aw, she just saw.
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  Yeah, I haven't seen the video. I did, unfortunately oversee the
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  video of the young woman that was murdered on.
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  It was a bus, right? Yeah.
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  Bus or. Subway, Yeah.
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  Bus or subway? Yeah, I I didn't even know.
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  I didn't know she died. I I actually had the misfortune
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  of informing her of that as well.
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  And I started crying because I was like, Oh my God, I watched a
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  woman get murdered. I didn't know he stabbed her,
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  but then also I was just like why the fuck did no one go to
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  her? No one.
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  I would have been like like wrapping my arms around her,
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  making sure she's OK, calling 911.
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  Like someone get that guy. What the hell?
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  But that, that's the thing I think shocks most people.
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  Sorry to interject, but yeah. No, no, it's, it is, it's, it's
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  very shocking. Like, there are people that are
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  making, like pictures and stuff like that.
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  And I've seen a couple that have made me tear up.
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  And I know some people might not appreciate them, but I sort of
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  do where it's Charlie hugging her.
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  Sure. Some of them have them with
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  wings and stuff or him just kind of.
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  And it's like, yeah. That's that's the way people
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  grieve just normally. Because that's what he would do.
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  That's Charlie would. Be like, come with me, we're
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  going together. That's a normal way people
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  grieve though. They, they, they do that all the
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  time. There's nothing wrong with.
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  That no, I know, but some people, some people will say
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  it's like tasteless or whatever, and I think it's quite
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  beautiful. But I stayed off.
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  I I didn't even go back on the only thing I was doing was
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  talking to Penn, but I was like, not on the Instagram part.
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  I was like, Nope, not looking because I had already seen
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  comments and I'd already unfortunately someone that I
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  follow the something hillbillies, but they're just
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  fed up on Instagram. And I don't know if it was
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  something that someone sent to him, like a personal text to him
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  or someone sent them the screenshot, but it was just
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  someone being horrible and nasty and like, fuck you.
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  Fuck Charlie Kirk. He deserved it.
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  Fuck your kids. I hope your kids get killed.
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  And then a video of a close up of when Charlie got shot.
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  Now, luckily it was just a screenshot for us, but I was
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  like, yeah, I can't be on and look at this.
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  I can't. No, you.
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  Don't. Yeah.
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  I said this that night. It's not good for people's
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  mental health. No, it's like a video that I
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  truly do. I would make a sitting that with
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  that young woman on the Foster subway.
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  That's the video that I needed to see.
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  You haven't seen that one. You unfortunately saw the
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  assassination. I think that's the one you
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  needed to see. We saw what we needed to see.
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  Well, and that's you watched the Sam Hyde show.
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  I want to highly recommend if you haven't watched the Sam Hyde
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  show, this is you. You should.
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  It starts real simple with a picture of Charlie Kirk and says
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  this is you. And then a picture of that young
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  woman who was killed and says this is your sister, your
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  daughter, your wife. And another point, picture of
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  Charlie Kirk, this is you and a picture of his wife.
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  This is your sister, your daughter, your wife.
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  You're getting the picture, you know, back and forth because it
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  is. It is all of us.
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  The attack was on all of us, both of them, and the attack on
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  that church this week. And that's what kind of spills
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  into this is I'm glad I waited. I did not go on social media,
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  like true social media until Sunday.
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  And I'm glad I did because that is when I saw, Oh my God, the
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  amount of people that are, you know, going back to church for
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  the first time in two years or going to church for the very
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  first time. And like, I'm going to go up to
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  the the priest, the past or the whatever and say, Charlie
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  brought me here. The amount of people coming out
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  and like, just like I've actually like, I usually have a
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  very short attention span. ADHD is very strong with me.
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  I sat through a 3 minute long prayer that one guy put up on
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  TikTok and just I was just like, yeah, I need to listen to this.
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  I just need to people are coming.
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  Together shout out to Tom McDonald, Charlie shout out also
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  to to Mises song that came out. Yeah.
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  Just like a lot of people creating a lot of amazing art,
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  honoring him, we're talking about it and that that's cool.
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  But the, the, the main point, the important thing to this is
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  that I've been seeing a lot of people that are posting the
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  other want to come back to God and don't know how or they want
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  to come to God for the first time and they they don't know
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  how. And the so many videos I've seen
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  like that and I have. Your dad was a specialist in
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  that, so you got advice. So I have comments at a few time
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  on some people's videos, ones that like, I kind of felt like,
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  yeah, this person needs it. And it's the advice that my dad
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  always gave me whenever I was questioning my faith, the
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  questioning anything mad at God and being like, why would you
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  want like to hear from me again? My dad said it's as simple as
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  praying, Hey, God, it's me. He's listening.
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  You tell him what's in your heart.
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  You tell him how you feel. You tell, you know, say that
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  you're you know, you ask for forgiveness for the fact that
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  you like strayed from him or it took you so long to find him,
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  whatever you feel in your heart and that you just, you want to
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  get to know him better. And God's going to welcome you
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  with open arms. And he was big on.
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  You don't need an intermediary essentially, which is why he, he
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  and I disagreed a lot. And we love to debate the Bible
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  and stuff because he was raised Catholic.
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  I was raised Catholic. I find more value in in
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  Catholicism than he did. But we respected the hell out of
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  each other for that. But one of the things he would
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  criticize it for is I don't need a church, I don't need a priest,
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  I don't need a Bishop, I don't need a Pope.
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  I need my Bible, my heart, and that's it.
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  And. Then she immediately gets his
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  Bible. You know the famous, You know
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  Bob's Bible. Yeah, I actually.
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  She was, yeah. Reading some of it today.
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  She was like, wait a minute. Yeah, that's.
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  Interesting people. Would invest between.
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  I'm still trying to figure this out and learn this.
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  I do not know. How do you read the Bible?
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  Do you just go like a book front to back and and read it?
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  Like do you, you know, because I struggled with that too.
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  And I always did the same thing. I'll just read a like a book
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  start from the beginning. And then today I forget we oh, I
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  was actually talking about like, you know, like one thing that
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  like. You.
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  Like don't hear in Catholicism, but you would hear like from
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  Protestants or whatever. Like other parts of
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  Christianity, there are of like, well, God doesn't make mistakes,
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  right? And so then we started talking
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  about that and you mentioned Genesis.
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  I say Cath. Well what I said was Catholics
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  generally don't believe that that God doesn't make mistakes
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  quote UN quote because there's a few that he is specifically
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  corrected. If you believe in Jesus, then is
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  that not correcting the mistake of not giving us salvation?
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  Like even like my. God.
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  You could say God changed his mind, but that still indicates
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  that at some point he had a difference of opinion with
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  himself. And that's my point, like my
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  example of that, because I always my dad would say that and
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  I was always like pretty sure that like.
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  In the Bible. He kind of mitts like whoops, my
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  bad, you know the. Flood.
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  And then he was like, hey. It's.
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  Not so much like I went too far. Here's the rainbow.
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  Like we're not, you know, and. From a, from a, from a, from an
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  Old Testament perspective, it's not so much mistakes as it is
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  unforeseen consequences. Yeah, even with God.
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  Like God gave them free will, but never in a million years did
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  he expect the bitch to listen to the snake.
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  And so that's the thing, I just like no one saw my.
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  Glasses, that's not a mistake. That's.
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  You mentioned Genesis and I was like, you know what?
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  I'm gonna. I was like, Oh my God.
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  That's like at the front of the Bible.
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  Yeah. Yeah, I guess that's, you know,
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  where the whole Garden of Eden happened.
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  A little embarrassed by that one.
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  And I was like, I'm just gonna flip through.
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  I'm not gonna start, I'm gonna go.
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  And I actually went to the part where it's, you know, Adam and
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  Eve are there and, you know, God's like, yeah, cool, you've
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  got everything. Just this one tree, you don't
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  fucking touch it because you're going to die.
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  And. And I was like, wait, wait.
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  He told them they would die and the bitch still ate the.
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  Fruit. Well, yeah, because the serpent
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  says Nah, then I'm gonna. Do.
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  That Adam, your turn. And then then I looked at him
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  and I went, I never, I didn't get that far.
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  I've never read all that before. Like not like really.
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  And yeah, I get I I get what y'all mean by when it's.
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  Yeah, well, and then she got to read the part because I was
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  like, well, hold on, keep. Going.
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  You got to keep going because how did that turn out for them?
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  Right. And she's like, Oh my God,
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  what's this about the head and the heels?
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  Yeah, I was like, wait, yeah, actually, do you mind if I read?
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  That no go ahead. No.
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  Go ahead, Sam. Fine, you don't mind, do you,
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  Sam? No, not, no, not at all.
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  Cool. Thank you.
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  OK, hold on. I've been trying to put this on
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  for like what, a minute now. Well, the point was she hadn't
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  she hadn't come across the idea that the the pain of bearing
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  rearing children in childbirth is the way curse of the wage of
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  sin. Because the joke is always just
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  periods and then it's like, oh. Yeah, it's a little Yeah.
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  No, no, it's that you're going to have kids and it's going to
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  hurt. So I'm going to, I'm going to go
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  like, so basically like. He asked Adam y'all why you guys
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  hiding? Oh we know we're naked now and
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  well why Oh well she told me to eat the fruit so I did.
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  It's like yeah, throw her under the bus.
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  And so then and the Lord God said unto the woman, what is
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  this that you have has done? And the woman said the certain
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  the serpent beguiled me and I did eat no, you know the talking
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  serpent, the only talking thing we've ever come across ever said
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  like yo you should eat it. So I went OK dumb bitch, sorry.
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  Lord. God said unto Now I asked Max
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  about this. I was like, what's a serpent
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  because it turns into a snake? The Lord God said unto the
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  serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all
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  cattle and above every beast of the field.
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  Upon thy belly shalt thou shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat
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  all the days of thy life. And he's like, yeah, the serpent
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  got turned into a snake. And I was like, my brain's
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  still. 'Cause it crawls on its belly
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  eating shit and. Then what?
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  What's that? Word.
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  Enmity. Enmity, sorry, between thee and
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  the woman, and between thy seed and her seed.
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  It shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.
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  And then I was like, What does that mean?
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  And I kept going on to the woman.
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  He said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception in
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  sorrow thou shalt bring forth children, and thy desire shall
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  be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
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  And I'm like, oh, yeah. So what's the, the, the.
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  Oh, he literally said, so you're going to be pushing the kid out
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  of your cooter and you're going to feel everything.
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  The head's coming out, then the heel.
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  And I'm like, God damn it, Eve, why did you listen to the
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  serpent? But at the same time, if she
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  hadn't. If Adam hadn't, we wouldn't be
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  here. Because they'd be chilling in
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  the garden. Because they would they would
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  never have had children unless they were kicked out of the
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  garden and they ate of the fruit of the tree of knowledge.
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  Right, which is why you say it's not a mistake.
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  It's not a mistake, right? But it isn't something God
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  planned for. Clearly.
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  He told them you're going to die and they did by the way, and the
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  the the the promises that that there would be immortal in this
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  garden. Have everything you ever need.
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  You're just going to be my little pets.
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  It'll be chilling and the snakes like Nah Nah, Nah.
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  What the God What is Gino? He's just he's hiding shit from
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  you. It was a first conspiracy
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  theorist. Sam was the circle.
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  Yeah. God, he got that secret shit.
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  That good shit is on the tree that you're can't eat.
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  Why do you think you can't eat it?
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  He doesn't want you to know. He don't want you to know that
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  shit. And then he was like, yeah, and
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  then they'll fight the power. Oh my God, we're naked.
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  Let's tie these fig leaves together.
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  God's like, Oh yeah, yeah, well, guess what?
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  Now you learned about sex. You know what else you're gonna
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  learn about what happens afterwards, bitch?
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  And you're going to have to be subservient to your husband
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  because you're going to be too busy raising these kids.
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  He going to have to go out and earn a living.
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  And by the way, Adam, that's your fucking punishment.
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  You're going to have to deal with these crazy bitches till
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  the end of time. OK.
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  I do have one question. So at the end of that it says
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  pain in pregnancy. What so does that mean?
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  That that's like a footnote of another place where it
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  references that which is Timothy.
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  I can, I can. If you saw a serpent talking to
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  you, and no other creature had ever spoken to you in your
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  entire existence, would you believe it?
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  Yes, let him. In No.
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  Good boy not he's smart. Depends on how like have I had
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  any edibles? Like what's going on?
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  Well, the in that that's actually like one thing that
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  like that's one thing that like like suppose supposedly had
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  supposedly happened a lot during that time is that like people
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  would supposedly like hear God. Yeah, like supposedly that
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  that's like how Moses like heard the voice of God or or whatever.
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  Well, that's The thing is like I, I had Jamaican, you know,
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  friends growing up with the one Jamaican guy I bought bootleg
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  tapes from and all that. And they definitely believe that
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  they'd be like, yeah, I'm on the caveman be smoking up.
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  And they were so funny. Yeah.
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  They thought they thought well, they also, because they were
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  Rastafarian, that they believed it was a sacred plant chosen by
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  God to be a SAC. Yeah.
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  Well, like not smoking pot is a sin.
• 23:00
  Right. Well, well, Maxine is looking
• 23:04
  that Well, Maxine is looking that up.
• 23:09
  I, I unfortunately, or I guess fortunately, depending on you
• 23:14
  look at it was on social media for a lot of the weekend, mainly
• 23:20
  because like I hardly go on Facebook anymore.
• 23:24
  But like I had people from Turning Point or who I knew who
• 23:28
  had once been with Turning Point, like blowing up my
• 23:30
  messages, like asking for my number to call me.
• 23:36
  So like I basically spent the weekend basically talking and
• 23:42
  basically just listening to people.
• 23:45
  It was, it was, it was like doing a podcast but without, you
• 23:50
  know, recording it. Almost bit of humor there I
• 23:56
  guess. Imagine that, talking to people
• 24:00
  and not recording it. This is I know what.
• 24:04
  We're breaking new ground here on the Whitfield Report.
• 24:07
  Next week. We'll just do that.
• 24:09
  We'll just talk and y'all can imagine what it was like.
• 24:13
  That that would that would be funny if we, if we didn't like a
• 24:17
  whole. Just put up a still frame of you
• 24:19
  and a still frame of me for two hours and just and just put at
• 24:24
  the bottom the text that says and you can imagine what this
• 24:27
  conversation sounded like. We would people would hate us so
• 24:32
  much for that. But that is kind of what we do
• 24:39
  after the show sometimes. But.
• 24:45
  Unrelated, but maybe will bring us all a little bit of joy.
• 24:50
  Yes, there's going to be a new cringing over coffee very soon.
• 24:54
  Oh dear Lord, it's going to be good.
• 24:56
  Because Chris Cantwell put out gay pornography of himself and
• 25:01
  also has AIDS. More on that soon chat.
• 25:06
  Didn't you write a book? He wrote a gay porn.
• 25:08
  Yeah, and it was a best seller on Amazon, Sam.
• 25:11
  How the hell? I'm not like, so angry about
• 25:17
  stuff, he said about being the best anymore.
• 25:20
  Turns out Sam spoiler for the whole cringing over coffee
• 25:25
  episode. Is that in 2015 or 2016?
• 25:30
  I said I was like, I want this on the record and if Cantwell
• 25:33
  doesn't like it, sue me. And I made sure it got sent to
• 25:36
  him. And I said it on the air that my
• 25:38
  prediction is this, that one day Chris Cantwell will come out as
• 25:42
  a homosexual man and that he is a he is a gay pornographer or a
• 25:46
  gay porn star. And I understand how sad
• 25:50
  everybody is. And it is a sad time, but for
• 25:54
  me, this was a very fun moment. I think I could even be angry
• 25:59
  about is like can't was like, Oh yeah, I'm going to show all my
• 26:02
  haters I was gay the whole time. Except he sort of mentions me in
• 26:08
  that he doesn't say my name, but he says there's a certain
• 26:11
  segment of people that will snicker and laugh because they
• 26:15
  always knew and they can enjoy it all they want, just don't
• 26:20
  comment on my post. And I'm like, I ain't going to
• 26:22
  comment on your post, but I am going to do a stream about it
• 26:25
  and we will have a lot of fun with that one.
• 26:28
  And I'm waiting, though, because the mood's still a little, it's
• 26:31
  a little down, but people like she was saying, it seems like a
• 26:35
  lot of people felt better over the weekend getting to.
• 26:39
  Talk to. People and go to church and
• 26:41
  express, yeah. And.
• 26:46
  Did you find Timothy? I did.
• 26:49
  You know it's serious. When you get book.
• 26:52
  Talk involved the women of Book Talk, the authors that are other
• 26:58
  celebrating CC Kirk's assassination or anything
• 27:04
  negative about his family or anything.
• 27:08
  They are literally destroying their books and saying I'm never
• 27:12
  going to buy anything again and like.
• 27:14
  Wow, I do want to give a special shout out now that I'm thinking
• 27:18
  about it for things like this to charliekurtzmurderers.com where
• 27:22
  you can find a list of all of the people saying all of.
• 27:26
  This awful shit. And maybe make a phone call to
• 27:31
  an employer or two, whatever. Hey, the vice president said to
• 27:34
  do it, yeah. The vice president said to do
• 27:37
  it, and so did Sam Hyde, so it seems like we're all on the same
• 27:40
  side. I do want to talk about that
• 27:42
  because there have been a few people, yeah.
• 27:47
  Did you? Catch JD hosting the Charlie
• 27:49
  Kirk show today. Because it was.
• 27:52
  I hadn't watched the whole thing, but I've seen enough
• 27:54
  clips. It was really powerful.
• 27:56
  Yeah, no, I, I have not, but like I I will.
• 28:01
  I will though. And I, I have not seen the I
• 28:05
  have not seen echo Kirk's speech.
• 28:09
  People have people have sent me stuff.
• 28:10
  But like you, you have to understand, and I'm not saying
• 28:14
  this like to you guys. I'm saying it's more to like the
• 28:17
  audience. I've literally been like talking
• 28:20
  to people non-stop, like all weekend even.
• 28:28
  Like, I do want to share. I talked to my friends who were
• 28:34
  what go from, you know, turning point and we're on the best of
• 28:39
  terms with Charlie. And I don't want to mention
• 28:43
  their names, but like, I guess like one of them, at least my,
• 28:51
  you know, the one who is a friend of mine, he he eventually
• 28:56
  like did you know, kind of, I wouldn't say he made-up with
• 29:01
  with Charlie, but they were able to, you know, be amicable.
• 29:04
  And he was, he was heartbroken when he found out the news
• 29:10
  because he was just reflecting on the time when he and Charlie
• 29:15
  were friends. And, you know, all of the all of
• 29:18
  the memories that he had with, you know, Charlie and, you know,
• 29:25
  including like when I met Charlie over Skype that one time
• 29:30
  and I was back in, you know, I was back in Colorado when that
• 29:33
  happened. And you know, Charlie was I one
• 29:38
  day was shy, but he was like a lot more.
• 29:43
  He was a lot more reserved than he was now like, and and that's,
• 29:49
  and that's the trivia thing is like so many people like know
• 29:53
  Charlie as like a big powerhouse, you know, figure.
• 29:58
  And by all, by all means, like he does deserve that
• 30:01
  recognition. But to me, they still shot the,
• 30:07
  they still shot my fellow Eagle Scout, who was one of the first
• 30:12
  people to congratulate me on getting my Eagle Scout.
• 30:15
  And then also, I did not realize this until just like last night,
• 30:23
  but Charlie and I were also Facebook friends, which I had
• 30:29
  forgotten about. And there's a there's a direct
• 30:34
  message from Charlie that I never responded to where he
• 30:38
  where two years ago when I graduated college, he he
• 30:42
  mentioned me and congratulated me.
• 30:46
  And I, I didn't, I did not see that until just this past
• 30:55
  weekend. But like, yeah, that that's the
• 30:57
  guy who was killed, the guy who, you know, checked up on me even
• 31:05
  years after we had spoken. That's.
• 31:10
  The thing is, I'd like to find somebody who has a verifiably
• 31:15
  bad story about Charlie Kurt. Do you know what I mean?
• 31:18
  Like he actually did something, mean spirited or not.
• 31:22
  Not like you're talking about years and years ago
• 31:26
  disagreements. Hell, we've I've even said some
• 31:29
  stuff where I'm like, yeah, I don't think he's hard enough on
• 31:31
  this or he's too hard on that. That's not what I'm right.
• 31:33
  I'm talking about. Did Charlie Kirk ever say
• 31:36
  anything or do anything to anyone that I would consider
• 31:39
  mean spirited? And so far, nobody has been able
• 31:42
  to show a damn thing like that. And Sam, you can't say that
• 31:45
  about me. You might not be able to say
• 31:47
  that about even you. That's a tough one, right?
• 31:51
  To never do anything mean spirited to where people could
• 31:54
  put it as an example and say hey this one time he was a jerk.
• 31:57
  Oh yeah, for sure. I will admit that you know, I've
• 32:01
  said dickish things to, you know.
• 32:05
  Yeah, you're sitting here doing a comedy podcast, so you've made
• 32:08
  jokes that would hurt somebody's feelings, or that's what I mean.
• 32:11
  It's like Charlie Kirk, you don't really have that.
• 32:15
  Well, no, I mean like I've, I've even said, you know, things like
• 32:19
  privately that like I'm not proud of and like, you know,
• 32:22
  I've, I've, you know, I've apologized and you know, like.
• 32:28
  But that, that's what I mean, is we've all gone out of pocket
• 32:31
  before, but here's a guy that nobody can even prove that he
• 32:35
  ever did once. Well, and I mean, I, I do know I
• 32:42
  have heard like some behind the scenes stories, but I, I can
• 32:48
  tell you this like we all go out of pocket.
• 32:50
  Here's The thing is, Charlie's supposedly out of pocket stories
• 32:55
  are so like, are so minute that like they wouldn't even be
• 33:02
  worth. Yeah, it's basically boils down
• 33:05
  to he's very uptight and conservative.
• 33:08
  Yeah. That's far.
• 33:10
  Anytime I've heard a complaint, that's basically what it boils
• 33:13
  down to is he's a little uptight and it's like you'd expect him
• 33:16
  to be. Yeah.
• 33:18
  That's fine. And again, any disagreement I
• 33:21
  had with him politically kind of stemmed from that.
• 33:24
  You know Sam, I'm more of like the populist punk rock, right?
• 33:28
  He's more of the. Buttoned up conservative right,
• 33:31
  you have now found yourself somewhere in between, right?
• 33:36
  Which is where most people find themselves.
• 33:39
  And the populist punk rock right doesn't hate Charlie Kirk and
• 33:42
  never did. No, no.
• 33:47
  And I mean like, I'm not. I mean, I guess the only other
• 33:50
  thing is like. I always thought it was great.
• 33:53
  My wife watched his videos, right, because that's like, Oh
• 33:56
  well, she's getting again. It might be for for you and I
• 34:00
  did we religiously watch the Charlie Kurt show.
• 34:02
  Well, no, because a lot of the debates he's having.
• 34:07
  I mean, it's stuff we've we know it's, it's not stuff that's new
• 34:11
  to us because we're political weirdos.
• 34:15
  But for normal people, Charlie's videos and his debates were a
• 34:19
  great way to teach them very basic principles of, of
• 34:24
  politics, debate and philosophy. So I thought he was a net
• 34:29
  positive. Always have.
• 34:31
  I said I even when you were like, well, but I'm not sure TP
• 34:35
  is to say is run the way I would run.
• 34:37
  It was basically your criticism. And I was like, yeah, but
• 34:39
  they're doing a good job. And you were like, yeah.
• 34:42
  And that, that was our opinion on Charlie.
• 34:44
  Always, right? Yeah.
• 34:46
  And well, and the other thing too is like even even now, like
• 34:51
  my criticisms of Turning Point were always like, I think they
• 34:57
  could do better and they they actually have done better then
• 35:04
  even like my you know, well they have.
• 35:07
  Problems I think people don't understand is that your
• 35:10
  encounters with him are so long ago that it was before Trump got
• 35:15
  elected president the first time and he wasn't sold on Trump,
• 35:20
  especially then, and you were. Like.
• 35:24
  But a lot of us are. You weren't even like, but I am.
• 35:26
  You were like, but a lot of us are.
• 35:28
  Over. Time Charlie Kirk's opinion
• 35:31
  changed to accept your position wholeheartedly that a lot of the
• 35:35
  young guys are pro Trump and he's OK with that.
• 35:38
  Right. And, you know, and now it became
• 35:43
  one of Trump's, like, biggest allies and.
• 35:50
  Just. Donald Trump junior was
• 35:52
  absolutely heartbroken. You could tell.
• 35:55
  Yeah, even like, I don't know if you saw this, but Joe, Joe Rogan
• 36:05
  had on Charlie Sheen on his podcast and, you know, let me
• 36:11
  tell you like I remember. Blood.
• 36:14
  Yeah, well, well, well, the whole podcast, so I've actually
• 36:18
  listened to. That you know what that.
• 36:19
  Is Charlie Sheen talks about fucking men recently the same
• 36:23
  way Cantwell does? Maybe he's just trying to
• 36:25
  emulate. Never mind.
• 36:27
  Anyway. Well, well, what I was going to
• 36:31
  say is like when, when when Mr. Tiger Bod is saying that you
• 36:38
  know people who are wishing Charlie Kirk dead when Charlie
• 36:43
  Sheen is the reasonable. Well, I know you were compared.
• 36:47
  To you. Defender Sam.
• 36:49
  So what's your reaction to the fact that he's been very open
• 36:53
  about that? He loves having sex with men.
• 36:55
  That's weird. Yeah, I agree.
• 37:00
  Don't that that. That that's weird, but also
• 37:04
  like. Like now I'm, I'm not saying
• 37:06
  don't don't have sex with men either.
• 37:08
  I'm saying don't tell everybody about it.
• 37:11
  Yeah. That's all I've ever asked of
• 37:15
  gay guys is just don't tell me about it.
• 37:18
  Right, I think. That's about it.
• 37:21
  Don't tell the school about it. You can have all the gay butt
• 37:25
  sex you want. I think it.
• 37:27
  Behind closed doors. Yeah, I think that's AI think
• 37:32
  that's a fair assessment. You know, keep it in the back.
• 37:35
  She never once bothered me until he started talking about how he
• 37:39
  loves butt sex the last couple months.
• 37:41
  I don't know what's up with that.
• 37:43
  Keep it in your pants. Or don't just don't tell.
• 37:46
  Just don't tell me about it is all.
• 37:49
  But yeah, like, even if even he was saying though that like the
• 37:53
  few videos he saw of Charlie Kirk, we're like, you know,
• 38:01
  Charlie Sheen is a big lip is like a big Lib, last time I
• 38:05
  checked. The libs, The libs that aren't
• 38:08
  crazy lost no better. Whoopi Goldberg was saying this
• 38:12
  is bad. You know what I mean?
• 38:16
  Like because, because there's a level of even if she is one of
• 38:19
  the craziest liberals I've ever fucking seen, there's a level of
• 38:22
  if you can't relate to the humanity of this, then you're a
• 38:25
  fucking monster. I, I do hope for, I do hope for
• 38:30
  real. This is kind of the one thing
• 38:32
  that I am the kind of paused on is I know that after the Trump
• 38:38
  assassination, they were saying that maybe we should tone down
• 38:43
  the rhetoric and then they never did.
• 38:46
  I hope that this actually is like where we actually can start
• 38:51
  to like, you know, get back to like civil discourse.
• 38:57
  Because if we can't, then if you, we're fucked.
• 39:03
  No, it's it's real simple how to do it.
• 39:06
  If you're advocating violence does a solution to your
• 39:09
  problems, politically or otherwise, you cannot be a part
• 39:14
  of our society anymore for one way or another, at least until
• 39:18
  we know that you're not a danger.
• 39:20
  I don't care if that involves mental health treatment.
• 39:23
  I don't care if that involves legal consequences.
• 39:26
  I don't care if that involves jail.
• 39:29
  But we cannot have people advocating violence as a
• 39:32
  political solution in our society.
• 39:34
  Yeah, I don't think that's. Yeah, they'll say.
• 39:37
  But what about the right wingers?
• 39:38
  And I'll say lock them up too if you're going to be violent.
• 39:42
  To which I would. Oh, the shootings that have
• 39:45
  happened that were right wingers, Yeah, like the
• 39:46
  synagogue shootings, for example, or a couple of other
• 39:50
  things I could think of. They're right.
• 39:52
  There is right wing terrorism. Don't, don't, don't argue with
• 39:56
  them when they say that. Say, yeah, we want them locked
• 39:58
  up too. Yeah, all of them.
• 40:01
  Yeah, there's no arguing they're going to do.
• 40:03
  What about ISM? We're not here for what about
• 40:05
  ISM anymore. If you're a violent psycho, you
• 40:08
  need to be locked up. Yeah, that's all there is What?
• 40:11
  Party you are, and I don't care what planet you think you come
• 40:14
  from. I sure as fuck don't care what
• 40:15
  your pronouns are. I On the note of pronouns, I do
• 40:20
  want to point out that Jeffrey, I guess there was some
• 40:26
  influencer named Jeffrey Star. I didn't know anything about
• 40:31
  him. Love Jeffrey Star.
• 40:33
  I've loved him for years. I told you he wasn't a bad guy
• 40:36
  to like. Apparently.
• 40:41
  Apparently he's getting. A weird creep, but he's not
• 40:46
  insane. He was calling out the they, He
• 40:48
  was calling out the they them weirdos.
• 40:51
  Literally he. Has for.
• 40:53
  He was well, but he was because. He.
• 40:56
  Gets. Called part of that.
• 40:58
  Yeah. I ain't fucking that.
• 40:59
  I'm just Jeffrey. What the fuck?
• 41:01
  They also they they like accused him of being a pedophile and
• 41:04
  he's not even gay. They said he he was with young
• 41:06
  boys and it's like. That was really false.
• 41:09
  Jeffrey Star is gay. OK, but he was getting accused
• 41:13
  to being a pedophile and I know it was completely false.
• 41:15
  No, it was. Completely false because they
• 41:17
  were trying to claim that like the last boyfriend that he was
• 41:22
  with, at least that I know of, like the one that was on the
• 41:25
  videos with Shane Dawson. Yeah.
• 41:28
  They were trying to say that like he groomed him because like
• 41:32
  he wasn't really gay at 1st and then he got with Jeffrey and
• 41:35
  then he came out and he's like no, I always knew that I was bi
• 41:39
  and no. I 20 something or something like
• 41:43
  that when I met Jeffrey like yeah, no, it was all.
• 41:45
  Bullshit. It's just that he went against
• 41:47
  the trans agenda because he's always said as even she pointed
• 41:51
  this out to me, she's like, he says that he's not even a drag
• 41:54
  queen. He's a guy that likes makeup and
• 41:56
  is feminine. Yep.
• 41:58
  And that he's not trying to be trans.
• 42:00
  He is. His name is Jeffrey.
• 42:02
  He says it in that video, right? You see him, He's like, my name
• 42:05
  is Jeff, Jeffrey, Jeff to my father and no one else or
• 42:09
  something. Like that, his father is the
• 42:11
  only. Jeff.
• 42:13
  Everyone else calls him Jeffrey. But he's.
• 42:15
  Yeah, exactly. Because I'm telling you man,
• 42:18
  it's even normal. Gay people have had enough of
• 42:20
  this fucking shit. No, yeah, I, I, I, I wanted to
• 42:24
  point him out though, because like, you know, people are
• 42:26
  saying that like it's all, you know, it's all gays and all
• 42:32
  trans and no, it's the, it's, it's the, it's the cultists.
• 42:40
  No, I mean, like we got a diverse, diverse little rainbow
• 42:43
  around that we talked to of friends of all colors and
• 42:47
  genders and fucking identities and all that fucking shit that
• 42:51
  we have a common agreement, even if we're talking to someone we
• 42:55
  disagree with, the common agreement is we don't believe in
• 42:57
  violence is the answer. And if you want to be in that
• 43:00
  club, it's called humanity, by the way, this club.
• 43:03
  And if you want to be in that club, it's real easy.
• 43:05
  You just got to not think violence is the answer to your
• 43:07
  fucking problems. I, I, I would suggest to the
• 43:13
  people of the gay community, the trans community, all of that,
• 43:18
  that aren't crazy, y'all need to start speaking up because
• 43:22
  you're, yeah, these people are making you look bad.
• 43:25
  Because who was the shooter in the Minnesota, the Minnesota
• 43:29
  school shooting that took out two little boys during mass when
• 43:33
  they were praying? Oh, a transgender person who
• 43:36
  literally wrote on the magazine of the gun for the children.
• 43:40
  Where's your God now? Killed Donald Trump.
• 43:44
  A bunch of horrific fucking things, just like things that
• 43:47
  were written on the bullets that the fucking little asshole used
• 43:50
  to take out Charlie Kirk. The other horrible school
• 43:54
  shooting. What was it?
• 43:55
  Oh, it was it was another transgender that did that one.
• 43:58
  Now, we don't know about the Colorado shooter shooting, which
• 44:01
  unfortunately happened the same day that Charlie Kirk was
• 44:05
  assassinated. By the grace of God, those
• 44:08
  children survived. They were both teenagers.
• 44:10
  They both survived, thank God. But we we know that.
• 44:14
  It was a 13 year. Old, but we don't really know
• 44:17
  what. It's a common theme, and it's
• 44:18
  not even the transgender thing. I know that's the common theme
• 44:22
  right now, but we go back. We go all the way back to.
• 44:25
  Columbine. We go before Columbine.
• 44:27
  He was kind of obsessed with that.
• 44:28
  The theme is real simple. These people always tell on
• 44:33
  themselves ahead of time and you're not stopped.
• 44:38
  They put up. Manifestos.
• 44:40
  They tell friends and family they're in little.
• 44:43
  In this case there's a Discord group apparently.
• 44:45
  Allegedly they do not act completely in a bubble and it's
• 44:51
  time we stopped pretending. Look, I'm sick and tired of
• 44:54
  pretending that the Columbine kids parents aren't partially
• 44:57
  responsible for what happened at Columbine.
• 44:59
  That bitch gave a Ted talk shit. Get the fuck out of here.
• 45:03
  Your son murdered those children and they've been and then
• 45:06
  there's been kids emulating your son for the last fucking 30
• 45:10
  years. Almost 40.
• 45:14
  Yeah, that that was yeah. I mean, I thank you because I
• 45:18
  I've always held that opinion too, Max, even before, like I
• 45:21
  met you. So it's, yeah, it's it's.
• 45:27
  It's often times the parents have the are the ones they get
• 45:29
  the guns from. They don't act in a bubble.
• 45:34
  I'm sick of this ignoring warning signs.
• 45:36
  You know, I, I, I don't talk too, too much about my history,
• 45:40
  but Sam, I was expelled from school for a threat I didn't
• 45:43
  make in 1998. Expelled, kicked out of middle
• 45:48
  school because I said because, okay, I'll explain.
• 45:52
  And I'm going to tell you I made the threat, but not, not the
• 45:55
  threat that I got kicked out for, but I definitely said
• 45:57
  something that was a threat. I said I'm gonna fucking kill
• 46:00
  you. And I said, I'm gonna fucking
• 46:01
  kill you to a kid that was hitting me with a crutch.
• 46:04
  See, we were at gym class, right?
• 46:06
  And the kid didn't like me and he had a broken leg.
• 46:08
  And I was sitting on the fence and the teacher wasn't looking.
• 46:11
  So he came over and he started hitting me with his crutch over
• 46:13
  the fence. So I turned her.
• 46:15
  I stood up, I turned around. I said I'm a fucking kill.
• 46:18
  You and him into all his buddies said he said he's going to shoot
• 46:21
  up the school. And I got kicked out of school.
• 46:24
  Where's that energy these days? I was not Sam.
• 46:30
  By this point in my life. I had never held a gun.
• 46:33
  I'd never seen one in person. I didn't have a family.
• 46:36
  Well, I had seen one in person, I guess, but I hadn't had.
• 46:40
  I didn't have any at home. My parents didn't carry guns.
• 46:43
  I didn't know anybody with guns. I had never.
• 46:46
  There was no possible way I could have carried out on that
• 46:49
  threat. But I got kicked out of school
• 46:51
  and I got sent to a hospital. Jeez, yeah.
• 46:55
  Mean I was going to kill him either.
• 46:56
  I meant I was going to kick his ass, you know that.
• 47:00
  Don't. Yeah.
• 47:01
  Thing you said all the time like I'm going to fucking kill you
• 47:03
  and it's like I'm going to beat the shit at you, but now it's
• 47:05
  like, Oh my God, you're going to kill.
• 47:06
  Me, I'm going to say bad things about you on social media.
• 47:11
  No, it's, but no, these people are literally out there saying
• 47:15
  they're going to kill people and nobody does a damn thing and
• 47:18
  then we're fucked. Oh, we're shocked that they act
• 47:21
  violently. No, we're not.
• 47:22
  They're fucking. There are people there, right,
• 47:24
  left, center, just crazy ass motherfuckers saying they're
• 47:28
  going to do violent shit, doing the violent shit, and nobody's
• 47:30
  fucking stopping them. And that if we could put a lid
• 47:35
  on that, it solves so many other problems that stem from it.
• 47:39
  I did see I own a brief brief article about how there was a
• 47:46
  possible school shooting like it was going to happen.
• 47:49
  They stopped it. Because they did exactly that.
• 47:52
  They saw the kids social media and they went and they stopped
• 47:55
  it. They prevented that school
• 47:57
  shooting from happening. So it's possible to do it
• 48:00
  because they did it in DC. Yeah, and it happens where?
• 48:06
  Look, man, the education system is half the fucking problem in a
• 48:10
  lot of these cases, I'm not going to lie.
• 48:13
  From the top to the goddamn bottom with some of the things
• 48:16
  these teachers are getting fired for.
• 48:17
  Hey, maybe that's a good fresh start.
• 48:19
  Let's get rid of these violent teachers.
• 48:22
  You're a teacher and they're this fucking crazy good.
• 48:24
  Get rid of ya. Gone.
• 48:25
  Or like the teacher that what was it like elementary school?
• 48:30
  I think it was and he showed them. 10 year olds. 10 year
• 48:33
  olds. He showed them the video of
• 48:35
  Charlie Kirk's assassination. And said it was good.
• 48:39
  Oh, and like so I like oh, I, I always get excited or I'm always
• 48:44
  happy when fascists die or some shit like that.
• 48:47
  And it's like. That's the that's the, that's
• 48:53
  the other thing. Like, I'm not one to limit free
• 48:56
  speech, but my, my old friend Larry O'Connor wrote a very good
• 49:05
  thing on Sub Stack, which is we need to stop othering, you know,
• 49:11
  people with concerted values as like Nazis and, you know,
• 49:18
  fascists and all these terms because it's gotten insane.
• 49:23
  Like I said, we get the team of humanity.
• 49:26
  You can be on that team real easy.
• 49:28
  You don't advocate violence. You call it out when you see it.
• 49:32
  You be a decent person. It's not hard.
• 49:35
  And and here's the thing, if you, if you honestly think that
• 49:38
  someone is a fascist or a Nazi, but try talking to them and
• 49:45
  having a dialogue. And yeah, you might not win
• 49:50
  someone over. But like having a, having
• 49:56
  discussions is the very like backbone of our country.
• 50:05
  The ability to agree to this, to disagree.
• 50:09
  And the fact that like this is all like elementary stuff to me
• 50:15
  and to you and to Maxine. But like, I guess to a lot of
• 50:19
  people out there, it's it's not. So a lot of people don't know
• 50:25
  what the real like Nazis are nowadays.
• 50:29
  But like, and, and that's the shame of it, is a lot of people
• 50:34
  watch Nick Fuentes this week. So there's the downside.
• 50:38
  But. Yeah, like him.
• 50:39
  He's a Nazi, and I say that unequivocally.
• 50:42
  He has said that of himself. He is very open about his
• 50:45
  disdain for Jewish people. He doesn't like black people,
• 50:50
  right? He doesn't like Hispanic people.
• 50:52
  So I'm not, I'm not talking out of pocket here.
• 50:55
  Exact opposite of who are Charlie?
• 50:57
  What did he say to Jim? That he's going to be Hitler?
• 51:00
  2-3 and four, right? That's what he said to Mr.
• 51:02
  Medicare. Yeah, which?
• 51:06
  I'm, I'm kind of excited that Milo said that he's coming out
• 51:10
  of retirement, kind of. Yeah, I'm.
• 51:13
  I know that he's still not the greatest, it's just I like it
• 51:16
  because like, I know he's going to hurt feelings and say the
• 51:19
  things I wish I could say. So that's like a good thing.
• 51:21
  But other than that, it's like he's still not the greatest.
• 51:24
  Hey, man. Well.
• 51:26
  Didn't I still? Love him.
• 51:27
  Cantwell to come out of retirement only to switch career
• 51:31
  paths to gay pornography. Well, OK, so here's the thing
• 51:35
  with Mile, like I hope if he does come out of retirement, I
• 51:39
  hope he's at least I hope he's at least like serious.
• 51:42
  And because like when I first started following Mile, he was,
• 51:45
  he was very like intellectual and like very witty and and
• 51:49
  sharp when he when he first went on like the Dave Rubin show,
• 51:54
  like he was articulate. And then he just became like a
• 51:57
  like a kind, like a the worst gay stereotype ever and kind of
• 52:04
  like a, a character. He, he made himself into a fool.
• 52:08
  And it's like I know he's had, I know he's had drug problems
• 52:13
  because he's, he's even talked, talked about it.
• 52:16
  So. Are you saying to me right now
• 52:19
  that you disapprove of people playing a character that makes
• 52:22
  them look retarded? In most.
• 52:26
  In most cases, yes, you're you're you're the you're the
• 52:31
  accepted I I'm not I'm not worried about you doing lines of
• 52:35
  coke and then. Maybe he he just wasn't pure
• 52:42
  about it, you know, Because like pure retardation, you're not
• 52:45
  thinking about a lot of shit. That's what I find anyway.
• 52:49
  What? Listen unironically, you would
• 52:54
  you would be a great any one of us could be a good one to do
• 53:00
  the. No, you turn that switch off and
• 53:03
  you stop thinking about all the shit that you have to think
• 53:06
  about. Yeah, I find it really helps me
• 53:09
  like get in touch with like nothing.
• 53:11
  Well, maybe that's, I mean, maybe that's like a good way to
• 53:15
  have like a discussion with with, you know, people like if,
• 53:22
  if we're going to do the whole, you know, debate me thing that
• 53:27
  Charlie was doing, like maybe that's a good a good strategy.
• 53:34
  I, I just in, in all seriousness, though, like I
• 53:36
  don't know who like with a big profile would be like a good
• 53:42
  equivalent, you know, to have the discussion thing with, you
• 53:49
  know, liberal student. It's not, it's not going to be
• 53:52
  Ben Shapiro because he's because he's a little too pretentious, I
• 53:58
  think. And he would, and he would
• 54:01
  deliberately try and. Can I?
• 54:04
  Can I tell a little secret? Sure.
• 54:08
  It wasn't even really Charlie that people are looking to
• 54:11
  replace, because Charlie wasn't the leader of this whole thing
• 54:16
  and everybody kind of knows that.
• 54:18
  But when people are saying who's going to replace him, what
• 54:20
  they're saying is who is our leader?
• 54:22
  You understand, he wasn't that, but he could have been.
• 54:27
  And everybody recognizes it and they're just saying but but who
• 54:31
  is? They just don't maybe know that
• 54:33
  yet, right? It ain't a replacement thing
• 54:36
  because sure, somebody can fill the role as the head of TPUSA.
• 54:41
  Hell, somebody could do a show on Charlie Kirk's channel and
• 54:46
  even call it the Charlie Kirk Show.
• 54:49
  But no, he can't be replaced. Replaced like that.
• 54:52
  Right. Well, the.
• 54:53
  Leader of the movement, people are looking for a leader that's
• 54:57
  much more far reaching than TPUSA was at this point, right?
• 55:01
  That's kind of what they're talking about.
• 55:03
  And he actually wasn't that in real life.
• 55:06
  And maybe people feel bad because he should have been and
• 55:10
  maybe people are like he was the perfect person for the job.
• 55:13
  There's all kinds of reasons people feel the way they feel,
• 55:16
  but at the end of the day, the closest thing we have to that
• 55:19
  the unifying person is Trump. Yeah.
• 55:22
  And he knows. Trump knows more than anybody
• 55:25
  that we need more than that. That's why he picked JD and men.
• 55:30
  Every day that goes by it seems like a better pick.
• 55:33
  Yep. Yeah, like.
• 55:36
  Ricky said on Charlie Kurt Show. All these people have.
• 55:40
  Called their bosses, report them for what they say.
• 55:42
  I'm like, hell yeah, more people going to be doing it now.
• 55:46
  Yeah, he. Made he made a really, I guess
• 55:51
  well made eulogy for Charlie as well as a friend.
• 55:56
  Like, like I said, I'll have, I'll have to watch that.
• 55:58
  I mean, I I've been saying I've been saying even you said that
• 56:02
  last week that like I've I've been I was I was like pro JD
• 56:09
  from like day one. Maybe that's just because, like,
• 56:12
  I have the Michigan slash Ohio middle of the country, you know,
• 56:18
  mentality in my I. Definitely think he has
• 56:21
  impressed me more than anybody in the last year for sure.
• 56:25
  Yeah. Even some of the people I
• 56:27
  thought would do well if kind of fizzled out, like Vivek.
• 56:32
  You know, I like Vivek. Still, I'm not one of those
• 56:34
  haters. He's a nice person.
• 56:36
  We've met him. Right.
• 56:40
  Do I? Think he's on the wrong side of
• 56:41
  the H1B visa issue. Yeah, and it cost him a lot, so
• 56:45
  maybe he'll rethink it. I don't know.
• 56:47
  Yeah, I don't. And look like I don't really
• 56:50
  even hate. I don't really hate the Santa's.
• 56:53
  I just don't like the Santa's. I just think it, I just think he
• 56:56
  made bad moves and. We don't even hate a lot of the
• 56:59
  leftist politicians we cover Sam.
• 57:02
  No, you're. Often pointing out the good
• 57:04
  ones. You know, I always point out
• 57:07
  when I think somebody on the left is a good one.
• 57:09
  But I mean, Bill Maher isn't, isn't a politician, but like, my
• 57:12
  God, how you know, people, people have actually complained
• 57:16
  that like, I give Bill Maher too much credit actually.
• 57:20
  When Ruth Bader Ginsburg died, many conservatives celebrated
• 57:25
  and I, and you can ask Maxine this in even in my personal
• 57:29
  life, was telling people you shouldn't because she was a good
• 57:33
  person. She did good work on that court.
• 57:35
  I don't care that she was a liberal.
• 57:37
  And if you think that she's the reason of Roe V Wade was still
• 57:41
  upheld or whatever, you're actually wrong about that.
• 57:43
  Cheering her death was kind of scummy.
• 57:46
  I said that then. And when people cheer Charlie
• 57:48
  Kirk's death, I say it now. Yeah, I never, I never like
• 57:54
  cheered her death. I was just like, man, I didn't
• 57:57
  agree with her. But it's, it's, it's unfortunate
• 58:00
  for her family. She gave us many wins for free
• 58:04
  speech that these people still have the advantage of.
• 58:07
  Yeah, on the right, on the right, us on the right in
• 58:10
  regards to some of the talk radio regulations that they
• 58:13
  threw down and stuff like that, and the FCC free speech on the
• 58:16
  Internet. She ruled on all those cases.
• 58:19
  So to just sit there and boil somebody's career down to like
• 58:24
  this caricature of what you thought they were, that's why
• 58:26
  we're in this mess to begin with.
• 58:28
  Guys. We can't be, we can't be
• 58:29
  dehumanizing the other side as bad either.
• 58:32
  Now, I understand there are some ghouls out there, and I'll tell
• 58:34
  you how you can spot them. Ilhan Omar is one of them.
• 58:38
  Oh yeah. Because they can't.
• 58:40
  Even if you're a politician and you don't have anything nice to
• 58:44
  say, you are literally mandated not to say anything at all.
• 58:48
  Trust me and people are going to make sure you hold to that from
• 58:51
  now on. All the all the all of the like
• 58:56
  all the Democratic congressmen who were like screaming know
• 58:59
  when Bobert like proposed a prayer for, you know, Charlie,
• 59:07
  correct. That's not going to go over
• 59:09
  well. Even my friend Luke Call called
• 59:12
  me, even though he's a very busy man and like he, you know, he
• 59:15
  checked up on me. I think we've.
• 59:20
  Been able to go back and watch our show because we were so
• 59:24
  fresh reacting to everything, you know?
• 59:27
  Well, well, like I said, Max, I'll, I'll upload it.
• 59:30
  But like this is kind of the reason why I wanted to invite
• 59:33
  you and Maxine on tonight's show because like now we've had a few
• 59:39
  days to kind of process everything.
• 59:42
  Like it it was it was literal breaking news.
• 59:47
  And like we actually did extremely well considering like
• 59:54
  I've wasn't some of it. The fact that like I was able to
• 59:57
  hold that any of us were able to hold it together as well as we
• 1:00:01
  did was that's probably the. Hardest bit of news we've ever
• 1:00:08
  covered together and I think I've ever covered it all.
• 1:00:11
  I covered 911 when I was in high school for like the school news
• 1:00:18
  and I watched a lot of that footage and this feels just as
• 1:00:22
  awful. Yeah.
• 1:00:24
  Well, both to cover in a journalism way and just the
• 1:00:27
  event itself. Yeah.
• 1:00:30
  Well, and like, and for me, that was the that was the other thing
• 1:00:33
  too, was like, like, you know, the day after Charlie died was
• 1:00:40
  911. So it was like it was kind.
• 1:00:43
  You don't have to stay, you know.
• 1:00:45
  I know that this is a bothersome I.
• 1:00:47
  Wanted to talk about something good for a second.
• 1:00:51
  Sure to. Do with one of the good friends
• 1:00:54
  of the show. And that shout out on the launch
• 1:00:56
  of his new book there. So.
• 1:00:58
  Yes. I went and got the 30 day free
• 1:01:03
  trial because I have Kindle through Amazon so I was like
• 1:01:06
  I'll do the 30 day trial for the unlimited because.
• 1:01:09
  He. X was like, oh, this book.
• 1:01:11
  And he read me and I went. Oh, I got to read that.
• 1:01:14
  I read the book Pitch, and she's like, wait, Andrew, like the guy
• 1:01:20
  that was on the show? And I was like, yeah, the cop.
• 1:01:23
  And she's like, cops with vampires, you say?
• 1:01:27
  I. Was like, all right, all right,
• 1:01:28
  I gotta I have to read it. So I I actually I just
• 1:01:31
  downloaded it and I was looking at it.
• 1:01:33
  Dude, I didn't even finish reading the the preface and I
• 1:01:38
  went, oh, I like this. I'm gonna like this.
• 1:01:42
  I am I am very excited to read this like it's Oh my God, it's
• 1:01:48
  so up by Ally. It's all like, you know, it's
• 1:01:51
  all the stories used to tell behind, you know, around the
• 1:01:53
  campfire, dragon, stuff like that.
• 1:01:57
  He is. Stories.
• 1:01:59
  What if it's all real and I'm like Yep, Yep, Yep.
• 1:02:02
  Well, I'm very excited. That was what was kind of cool
• 1:02:05
  in a way. And, and I'm, I imagine just
• 1:02:07
  from reading his books in the past, it's going to have this
• 1:02:11
  vibe which is like Vampire the Masquerade a little bit.
• 1:02:14
  The game I've been talking about where it's like the 90s, there's
• 1:02:17
  vampires, but most people don't know about them and and it's
• 1:02:21
  like sneaking around type stealthy and gothic and cool.
• 1:02:26
  And I've been seeing that vampire like that kind.
• 1:02:30
  They tried to bring it back Sam, but this Bloodlines game they're
• 1:02:33
  putting out looks like it's going to be dog shit and it'll
• 1:02:35
  ruin the. French.
• 1:02:36
  So sorry, sorry, Mort, we know, we know you're excited about
• 1:02:41
  about that, but. Mort loves vampires more than
• 1:02:43
  anybody, so he should check this one out.
• 1:02:46
  But you know, also there's this other book that came out
• 1:02:49
  recently I heard about Sam. Oh, also on Kindle Unlimited by
• 1:02:53
  the way, along with all my other books.
• 1:02:56
  Sins of the Assassin, book four in the John Writer series, if
• 1:03:03
  you. Get your Kindle Unlimited.
• 1:03:05
  You can read all of Sam's books. Including Blood Ties Volume 1,
• 1:03:11
  which is going to be the next book to come out if you get
• 1:03:15
  Audible. You could hear the great Doug
• 1:03:18
  Green read all but one right. No, all of them at this.
• 1:03:23
  All of them, yes. All, yeah, all but one, all but
• 1:03:27
  blood ties. And that's because I got like, a
• 1:03:29
  different narrator because it, it's a different universe,
• 1:03:32
  different tones. So fair enough.
• 1:03:35
  Yeah. So.
• 1:03:37
  But book #4 since the Assassin is out.
• 1:03:42
  On that note, ladies and gentlemen, I do want to make
• 1:03:45
  this announcement too. I am already working on book 5
• 1:03:51
  of Shadows of Deception called American Inferno, which and I
• 1:03:59
  want to put this disclaimer out there now because.
• 1:04:02
  Pause button when you say that. Yeah, well, I'm, I'm still
• 1:04:07
  fixing the the sound board, but it'll be it'll be back next
• 1:04:12
  week. But I want to put this out there
• 1:04:14
  now. Book 5 is going to be
• 1:04:18
  fanatically about all this political violence that is going
• 1:04:23
  on, you know, in the country now, the riots in LA and
• 1:04:31
  unfortunately now Charlie Kirk's death.
• 1:04:37
  And I don't want it to seem like I'm writing the simply to grift
• 1:04:42
  off of Charlie's death. But one of the ways that I have
• 1:04:48
  found it helpful to kind of deal with this is to, and this is
• 1:04:54
  kind of how I've dealt with like other events too, is like to
• 1:04:58
  kind of work through these like really tough, like real life
• 1:05:02
  situations and put them in my fictional books.
• 1:05:07
  And so like I'm saying, I don't mean.
• 1:05:10
  I want, I want to aside that Sam, anybody that gets to book 5
• 1:05:14
  reading all of them will understand that to some degree,
• 1:05:17
  I would say because it's it's pretty obvious that there's
• 1:05:20
  parallels to real world events in all of them.
• 1:05:22
  Oh yes, and the whole thing with like veterans dealing with PTSD,
• 1:05:28
  like that's a main through line. I, you know, I even covered like
• 1:05:32
  a present, you know, the presidential assassination
• 1:05:36
  attempt. You know, I book 5,
• 1:05:39
  unfortunately, it is going to cover, you know, a political
• 1:05:43
  assassination. And I'm also going to be
• 1:05:47
  dedicating it to Charlie because and I, I actually talked to one
• 1:05:54
  of my fellow authors about this last night and like, I just feel
• 1:06:00
  compelled to write about it in this setting.
• 1:06:04
  So I, I know people are going to, I know some people are going
• 1:06:08
  to say, Oh, you're trying to grift.
• 1:06:10
  But if you if you think that, that's your.
• 1:06:14
  Opinion people that would say us talking about the subject at all
• 1:06:18
  is a grift. There would people, there are
• 1:06:20
  people that called Charlie a grifter his entire career.
• 1:06:22
  So frankly, those are such silly accusations in this day and age.
• 1:06:29
  I mean, we're not out here. You're not out here making, you
• 1:06:33
  know, a bajillion dollars off of these books anyway.
• 1:06:36
  You're writing what you like and people happen to enjoy it.
• 1:06:40
  Yeah, now if, if someone if someone wants to buy a bajillion
• 1:06:44
  copies and you know, or. Just like or buy the rights to
• 1:06:49
  make the series Amazon. Yeah, please.
• 1:06:58
  Anyone but HBO Max, Sam. That's where we draw the line.
• 1:07:01
  Yeah, I yeah. Or.
• 1:07:07
  Shadows of Deception as a series is better than that, let's face
• 1:07:12
  it. Max.
• 1:07:13
  No. Probably not paramount either,
• 1:07:16
  now that I think about it. I mean, there's got.
• 1:07:22
  There's like, shut up. Well, I mean.
• 1:07:27
  Alienating all the big corbos. I mean, paranoid does have like
• 1:07:31
  some based really it depends on like who's producing it
• 1:07:36
  basically, Hey, you know, if if Scott, if if Scott Eastwood
• 1:07:42
  wants to play John Ryder, like I would be fine, fine by that.
• 1:07:48
  So. But anyway, yeah.
• 1:07:54
  Sorry, I got a little a little invasion there.
• 1:07:58
  So, so, yeah, but and Andrew, Andrew's, you know, putting out
• 1:08:05
  good work. Also Steve Stark, I gave a shout
• 1:08:09
  at him. This this package too.
• 1:08:14
  Because like, people are people are criticizing Stephen King and
• 1:08:20
  Don Winslow for stuff they've said about Charlie.
• 1:08:24
  And maybe that's fair, but rather than giving them negative
• 1:08:28
  attention, I would much rather just promote like authors who we
• 1:08:32
  enjoy and who are not alienating their audiences, you know, with
• 1:08:39
  political. Well, and they're very
• 1:08:41
  approachable, man. Like that's why we're chatting
• 1:08:44
  it up with these guys that look, if you, if you find any of these
• 1:08:48
  authors we recommend and you enjoy their work, just go tell
• 1:08:52
  them so on Twitter and they will almost certainly respond to you
• 1:08:55
  because they have time for the fans of their work.
• 1:08:59
  Yeah, Andrew, I know Andrew's been dealing with like some
• 1:09:04
  personal, you know, family. Yeah, I mean, like, eventually,
• 1:09:10
  if you're just like, hey, I love your books, eventually they're
• 1:09:12
  going to say thank you because you're not going to get that
• 1:09:15
  from Stephen King 99% of the time, even if he wasn't a Dick
• 1:09:18
  head about it. No, you're, I mean, you're not
• 1:09:23
  even going to get that from Jack Carr, who I like just because
• 1:09:27
  the man is busy. You know, yeah, exactly.
• 1:09:32
  But these guys, I mean, the community of authors that you
• 1:09:36
  kind of interact with and then beyond are amazingly
• 1:09:40
  approachable. They, they, they are helpful.
• 1:09:45
  They love to help promote each other.
• 1:09:48
  And it's, it's this awesome. I love to see independent
• 1:09:51
  artists helping each other out. Yeah, it it's and also like all
• 1:09:57
  of them have also, for the most part, unilateral that come out
• 1:10:02
  and said that this, that this was a horrific, you know, thing
• 1:10:12
  even even like authors like, you know, Terence McCall who
• 1:10:16
  disagreed with Charlie on a lot of stuff, like ideologically.
• 1:10:20
  But I mean, he also writes about assassinations in his books.
• 1:10:25
  You know, he's he's written about the Kennedy assassination.
• 1:10:28
  And he was one of the people that actually reached out to me
• 1:10:31
  personally and just, like, checked up on me and like, yeah,
• 1:10:39
  this, this shook a lot of people.
• 1:10:44
  Charlie's death certainly was not in vain.
• 1:10:47
  Which is like little one of the only good things.
• 1:10:51
  From here is up to us. That's the important.
• 1:10:55
  Thing who's going to? Replace Charlie Kirk, they keep
• 1:10:59
  asking. You know what my answer is, Sam?
• 1:11:02
  No one. You.
• 1:11:06
  You. You, All of you.
• 1:11:08
  All of us. Yeah, well, I, I think, I think
• 1:11:12
  much like Rush Limbaugh, Charlie is irreplaceable.
• 1:11:16
  No one's going to be able to truly ever replace them.
• 1:11:20
  But we can all do our own part. But they're asking who's going
• 1:11:25
  to lead a movement. And that's that's the question
• 1:11:28
  they're really asking. And that's why my answer is you,
• 1:11:31
  me, all of us, each of us, if you care about things and you
• 1:11:34
  want to see change, you know, we, a lot of us have been hiding
• 1:11:39
  for a long time, Sam, a lot of us, a lot of us, you know, like
• 1:11:44
  you and I will sit here and talk politics on the show.
• 1:11:46
  But how many people do you know that are like, I'm terrified to
• 1:11:49
  do that, even if I have milquetoast opinions?
• 1:11:52
  And you know, I wish I could share them, but they're afraid
• 1:11:57
  because they see cancel culture and they see all this vitriolic
• 1:12:00
  fucking bullshit. No, I think, I think we're done
• 1:12:03
  with cancel culture as a as a culture.
• 1:12:07
  I mean, yeah. We're also done with violent
• 1:12:10
  psychos running around saying whatever they want.
• 1:12:12
  They, they, they don't, they don't get it because they're
• 1:12:15
  like, oh, this is like cancel culture.
• 1:12:17
  What did they say, Sam? Cancel culture doesn't exist.
• 1:12:20
  It's consequence culture, right? Well, yeah.
• 1:12:24
  Well, they, well, they're about to find out about consequence
• 1:12:28
  culture. Hey, hundreds and hundreds of
• 1:12:31
  them already have. And we're like, it's easy.
• 1:12:36
  See, the thing they don't get it is we know all the rules
• 1:12:39
  already. We know all the ways to fuck
• 1:12:41
  them over just because they've been fucking us over for 10
• 1:12:44
  years. You know how to get around it.
• 1:12:48
  We know where the exploits are, and many of them.
• 1:12:51
  Let me tell you something about cancel culture.
• 1:12:53
  They say it wasn't real. Tell me about Andrew Dodson, our
• 1:12:57
  friend from back in the day, OK, who was a libertarian, OK, and
• 1:13:04
  went to what he thought was a free speech rally called the
• 1:13:07
  Unite the Right in Charlottesville and then got
• 1:13:09
  painted as a fucking Nazi. And his family was ruined.
• 1:13:14
  His his wife left him, his kid took his kids, his job fired
• 1:13:18
  him, and he killed himself. They want to talk about fucking?
• 1:13:21
  There was no cancel culture. Kiss my ass.
• 1:13:25
  You want to say violent psychopathic things on all that
• 1:13:28
  man did was go to an event that Nazis happened to be at.
• 1:13:32
  Yeah. I don't see that as nearly as a
• 1:13:34
  crime as celebrating the murder of an innocent, not politician.
• 1:13:40
  That's why it's it is a political assassination.
• 1:13:43
  But he wasn't a politician to boast.
• 1:13:45
  You could say to him was he was a speaker or a writer or or a
• 1:13:49
  preacher, not a politician. Right.
• 1:13:52
  He was. He was at worst an influencer,
• 1:13:57
  which I know is, is a, which I know is, you know.
• 1:14:00
  You should apologize. That's not nice to say.
• 1:14:04
  Sam's saying mean things now. He called Charlie Kirk an
• 1:14:06
  influencer. He it's a joke.
• 1:14:10
  Yeah. Nobody wants to be an
• 1:14:12
  influencer. That's gross.
• 1:14:13
  Right. Well, well, that's what I'm
• 1:14:15
  saying. At the very worst, that's what
• 1:14:17
  he was. But that's why I said speaker,
• 1:14:20
  writer, debater, I guess. But then people will put master
• 1:14:25
  in front of it. And then it's funny.
• 1:14:27
  That's what South Park did. I don't know if you knew that we
• 1:14:30
  had the whole episode where Cartman was the master debater
• 1:14:34
  and he was supposed to be Charlie Kirk.
• 1:14:36
  Hey do. You know what, Charlie?
• 1:14:38
  Is awesome, yeah, He laughed. About that because South Park,
• 1:14:41
  yeah, they took that. Down now and I'm like, why?
• 1:14:44
  He actually enjoyed that he thought it.
• 1:14:46
  Was I can understand from their perspective why they might take
• 1:14:49
  it down? OK.
• 1:14:51
  Yeah, they might just feel bad about it.
• 1:14:53
  They might feel like with Yeah true because it only came out a
• 1:14:56
  few weeks. Ago, yeah.
• 1:14:57
  I don't know if they took it down or it was like, what are
• 1:14:59
  their own comedy center, right? If they took it down, I don't
• 1:15:01
  know. I just know that the episode was
• 1:15:03
  taken down. Yeah.
• 1:15:04
  I could I could see somebody saying look this is not in good
• 1:15:09
  taste right now, even if it was 2 weeks ago.
• 1:15:13
  Yeah, I mean, I, I mean I'm sure it'll, I'm sure it'll be, I'm
• 1:15:17
  sure like I'm sure it will be, you know, made available again
• 1:15:22
  at some point. But yeah, I mean, I, I, I can
• 1:15:25
  kind. Of available streaming, they're
• 1:15:27
  just not going to replay it on TV as I understand it.
• 1:15:30
  And that's happened a lot with South Park and sometimes it has
• 1:15:34
  been at the request of Matt and Trey.
• 1:15:37
  Some of the imaginationland episodes are the same thing.
• 1:15:40
  Some of the ones that talk deal with like Muhammad.
• 1:15:44
  They, they asked to be pulled. So I, I, I don't like to assume
• 1:15:49
  what their stance on it was, but I'll give them a benefit of a
• 1:15:52
  doubt that you could say, even if Charlie thought it was funny
• 1:15:56
  a couple weeks ago, maybe they just think it's in poor taste
• 1:15:59
  now, which is fair. Yeah, yeah, I, I've been, I
• 1:16:03
  remember like I saw something like one of one of the people I
• 1:16:10
  was talking to actually this past weekend shared a story
• 1:16:13
  about that. Where would where would that
• 1:16:19
  when that episode came out, Charlie, from what I understand
• 1:16:22
  was act like I can't believe, I can't believe like I made it on
• 1:16:28
  to South Park. Like he was, he was kind of
• 1:16:32
  like, OK, now I've now I've made it.
• 1:16:37
  I'm not going to lie, a lot of like the humor pointed at him he
• 1:16:41
  probably would have found funny. Yeah, like legitimately I would
• 1:16:45
  have assumed he would because, yeah, debater immediately.
• 1:16:48
  He would have laughed at that immediately.
• 1:16:52
  Yeah. The master debater club.
• 1:16:53
  Do you think he wouldn't find that fucking funny?
• 1:16:57
  Of course he would. And he did.
• 1:16:58
  Because it's silly, because it is funny, because it's OK to
• 1:17:01
  criticize people. And hey, the people that are
• 1:17:04
  losing their jobs, we ain't talking about criticisms here.
• 1:17:06
  We're talking about celebrations of violence.
• 1:17:09
  Yeah, that, well, that fashion. For violence, which is a crime.
• 1:17:14
  Well, yeah, well, that that so that's the other thing I want to
• 1:17:16
  point out too is, is the the webs are saying, Oh, well, the
• 1:17:19
  right wing is engaging in cancel holder because they're they're
• 1:17:23
  simply getting its people fired who were simply disagreeing
• 1:17:26
  with, you know, Joe. And it's like, no, no, no,
• 1:17:30
  people are getting fired are the ones who were like saying that
• 1:17:34
  they were glad that he died. OK, Sam, still trying to give a
• 1:17:39
  reason to those people? No, the people saying that, Sam,
• 1:17:41
  you know what I say back to them?
• 1:17:43
  Go fuck yourself. You don't get to tell us nothing
• 1:17:45
  no more. We're sick of hearing you.
• 1:17:47
  You don't get to tell us how to grieve.
• 1:17:49
  You don't get to tell us how to act.
• 1:17:51
  You don't get to tell us how to live our lives.
• 1:17:53
  You want to fucking have the right to do that?
• 1:17:55
  Take the fucking power back in this country and force it down.
• 1:17:57
  Our fucking throws at gunpoint. Bitch.
• 1:18:00
  Which, yeah. And we're going to fight you
• 1:18:04
  this time. It ain't like before.
• 1:18:06
  There's I see normies that are ready to fight you.
• 1:18:10
  They don't want to fight Data. That's why they're so upset.
• 1:18:13
  They don't want to fight you. They don't want to fight.
• 1:18:18
  We don't want to fight. We just want to be left alone.
• 1:18:21
  You don't want to leave us alone.
• 1:18:23
  Not in our schools, not in our, not in our our homes, in our
• 1:18:27
  living rooms. You don't want to leave us alone
• 1:18:30
  anywhere. We can't have video games, we
• 1:18:32
  can't have movies. You're a racist.
• 1:18:34
  You have to think about how you're a racist 24 hours a day.
• 1:18:36
  And if you're not a racist, you're a homophobe.
• 1:18:38
  And so you should think about that on and on and on and on and
• 1:18:42
  on. Now you can't even grieve a man
• 1:18:47
  because we think he did some thought crime.
• 1:18:49
  You don't listen to these people no more.
• 1:18:51
  They don't own you. And you don't have to justify
• 1:18:53
  nothing to him. Yeah.
• 1:18:57
  That I was do what a lot of other people have been doing on
• 1:19:01
  their social media. It's like variations, but it's
• 1:19:04
  basically like, you know, I'm this is my name.
• 1:19:09
  This is how old I am. You know, I'm a conservative,
• 1:19:14
  I'm a Christian, you know, whatever, you know, I am Charlie
• 1:19:20
  Kirk. And then there's like another
• 1:19:21
  variation of if you don't like that or if you need another
• 1:19:26
  reason to unfollow me, it's all that stuff.
• 1:19:28
  So it's like if you are celebrating this man's death,
• 1:19:31
  unfollow me. I get it, but not everybody got
• 1:19:35
  to put their head up either. Yeah, but like I still like
• 1:19:38
  maybe not being brave enough to actually doing that, but like
• 1:19:40
  actually to be able to speak out how I actually feel about it.
• 1:19:44
  Because like on my main, my main TikTok, like I kind of want to
• 1:19:49
  do that because I see mutuals, you know, people I follow that
• 1:19:54
  like I'm not friends with, acquaintances with.
• 1:19:56
  And they're like, they're reposting this stuff and I'm
• 1:19:59
  like, they're brave enough to repost this stuff.
• 1:20:01
  And I'm not because I am afraid because of the shit that's going
• 1:20:06
  on. And that makes me so angry
• 1:20:08
  because I know that it's like giving them what they want.
• 1:20:12
  But it's. There's a good reason to be
• 1:20:15
  afraid because the blood is still fresh and it's not right.
• 1:20:20
  And we've all saw it and now everybody in there and and and
• 1:20:24
  the the bastards will make you see it again if you complain
• 1:20:27
  too. Yeah, that's that's what you're
• 1:20:30
  mostly should be afraid of too, is that some of those snakes
• 1:20:34
  will pop up in your fucking comment section and we're
• 1:20:36
  linking you to things that they want you to fucking be
• 1:20:39
  traumatized by. Because this, by the way, hey,
• 1:20:44
  Sam, did you see I called the rocks daughter a ghoul and
• 1:20:47
  ratioed her. Did you see that he.
• 1:20:51
  Did do that? I I did not see that one, but I
• 1:20:54
  will go on. Yeah, Ava Rain.
• 1:20:58
  Ava Rain, NXT's general manager, is The Rock's oldest daughter.
• 1:21:07
  And she retweeted somebody had put something to the effect of,
• 1:21:12
  I find no kind words for people who had no kind words to give in
• 1:21:16
  life. And she retweeted, I can't
• 1:21:18
  believe I have to retweet this, that people should know this.
• 1:21:22
  And I just said nobody's asking from kind words from the likes
• 1:21:25
  of you. We're just asking you to keep
• 1:21:27
  your hatred to yourself, ghoul. And I just keep getting like,
• 1:21:31
  saw that one. I have a feeling she's not going
• 1:21:34
  to be general manager of NXT for very much longer, considering
• 1:21:38
  that that company is like tied to the Trump administration.
• 1:21:41
  Yeah, I mean. It's weird, but OK.
• 1:21:46
  Yeah, people getting fired. I've also seen some really great
• 1:21:49
  tributes. I would say WWE handled it
• 1:21:52
  really well with doing their Triple Mania, which was their
• 1:21:55
  first big event. Not Triple Mania.
• 1:21:57
  World's collide with AAA. Lily Garcia gave a beautiful
• 1:22:02
  rendition of the national anthem and you could tell.
• 1:22:06
  Meant more than any other time she's ever sung that.
• 1:22:09
  Song, except for once, which you could tell she was brought back
• 1:22:13
  to. She sang the first live national
• 1:22:16
  anthem after 911. Yeah, it very much like the same
• 1:22:19
  vibe because they like this is another event that is, it's
• 1:22:23
  crazy because it hasn't only rocked our nation.
• 1:22:27
  It's not just our country, the UK, China.
• 1:22:32
  South. Korea, like all these other
• 1:22:35
  countries having prayer vigils, prayer marches.
• 1:22:38
  I mean, you were even saying that in the UK they're now
• 1:22:41
  saying it was close to like 3 million people were in that
• 1:22:45
  prayer March for Charlie Kirk. The estimates are all over the
• 1:22:50
  place, but it's because the media lied and everybody can
• 1:22:53
  tell that it's more than 100K because 100K in that square,
• 1:22:57
  we've seen it a billion times. It would be nothing.
• 1:23:00
  It would be a blip on the radar. It's still a large rally, don't
• 1:23:02
  get me wrong, but it wouldn't be as big as that.
• 1:23:05
  I'd have to say to these people, I know that part of the reason
• 1:23:12
  why they went after him was they wanted to kill God.
• 1:23:14
  I know that. I just wanted to say to the you
• 1:23:16
  didn't kill God. All you did was woke up his
• 1:23:20
  army, because now we're coming together and we're just like
• 1:23:24
  enough is enough. It's an enough is enough of
• 1:23:29
  going after people for for speaking their mind, their First
• 1:23:32
  Amendment right and because you don't like it, attacking them,
• 1:23:36
  killing them, slandering them, getting them fired.
• 1:23:39
  Enough of you coming after Christians, coming after us,
• 1:23:45
  attacking us, going after our fucking children, you.
• 1:23:48
  Sit fucks. Enough is enough and it's time
• 1:23:54
  for us to fucking take this nation back.
• 1:23:56
  It's time for God to take this nation back.
• 1:23:58
  Like they've they've started a fire within me that I didn't
• 1:24:03
  even know I had there to like be more fucking dedicated in my
• 1:24:07
  faith and be better in my faith. Like I didn't think I had that
• 1:24:10
  in me by fucking do now. Sure as hell do now.
• 1:24:15
  I sit here in a position where this just proves a lot of what
• 1:24:19
  I've been saying, right to a lot of people that didn't hear what
• 1:24:22
  I had to say anyway, so it wouldn't have helped.
• 1:24:25
  But I do know where we go forward from here.
• 1:24:27
  That's the one thing I do know and it's we go forward with hope
• 1:24:31
  because they tried to kill it. You never let them kill your
• 1:24:35
  hope. You don't take the black pill.
• 1:24:40
  That's for pussies. My God, the Krassteins are doing
• 1:24:44
  the fucking meme that well, you, you retweet it, you retweeted
• 1:24:51
  it. But yeah the the Krassteins are
• 1:24:55
  more word out like trans activist being targeted I'd.
• 1:25:01
  Say this, if you're the praying type, one thing you can do is
• 1:25:06
  pray that these people will, you know, come out of it or reject
• 1:25:10
  their wicked ways or whatever you want to say, because
• 1:25:16
  otherwise this is an inevitable fucking conflict.
• 1:25:19
  Well. So it's funny.
• 1:25:22
  So I found the Timothy thing, but you talk about Revelations a
• 1:25:26
  lot, and to be honest, I've never really read it.
• 1:25:32
  I was actually very surprised some of it is in red ink.
• 1:25:36
  Yes. Why is that?
• 1:25:40
  I'm sure you know. Because it's prophetic red ink.
• 1:25:44
  The red ink stuff is prophetic versus the black ink is more
• 1:25:47
  introductory. OK so I found this.
• 1:25:52
  I read it at 1st and I was like very taken aback by it and I was
• 1:25:56
  like Oh my God. Then I kind of looked it up to
• 1:25:58
  get the beating. Yeah, you don't give up hope.
• 1:26:02
  I wanted to say because you're about to give us why, but I want
• 1:26:04
  to give you the real quick one is because we win in the end,
• 1:26:08
  guys says so right here. Go ahead.
• 1:26:11
  So this is the the the part that I got into.
• 1:26:15
  I don't really know who's talking to who.
• 1:26:18
  That part kind of confuses me, but it I think it's supposed to
• 1:26:23
  be Jesus talking to the Thyathic church.
• 1:26:29
  I have no idea how to pronounce it, I'm sorry.
• 1:26:33
  Yeah, it's Theatia. Theatia.
• 1:26:38
  A church at It's a church in the end time.
• 1:26:41
  So he says, I know, I know thy works, and charity, and service,
• 1:26:48
  and faith, and my patience, and thy works, and the last to be
• 1:26:53
  more than the first, notwithstating.
• 1:26:56
  I have few things against thee, because thou sufferest sufferest
• 1:27:02
  sufferest. That woman Jezebel, which called
• 1:27:05
  her, calleth herself a prophetess to teach it to seduce
• 1:27:10
  by servants to commit fornications, I mean to commit
• 1:27:15
  fornication and to eat things sacrificed on to idols.
• 1:27:20
  And I gave her space to repent of her fornication, and she
• 1:27:24
  repented not. Behold, I will cast her into a
• 1:27:28
  bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great
• 1:27:33
  tribulations, except they repent of their deeds.
• 1:27:37
  And I will kill her children with death.
• 1:27:40
  And all the churches shall know that I am which he searcheth the
• 1:27:46
  reins and hearts and will give unto everyone of you according
• 1:27:53
  to your works. Now I read that at 1st and like
• 1:27:56
  what really got I was like, OK, the whole like throwing her down
• 1:27:58
  on the bed thing. I was like, all right, that's
• 1:28:00
  going to mean something that like I need to look into.
• 1:28:02
  And then like the like killing her children part.
• 1:28:05
  And I was like, OK, First off, I need to like look up who Jezebel
• 1:28:08
  actually is because I know Jezebel was like a prostitute or
• 1:28:13
  something like that. She I know that's where the term
• 1:28:15
  Jezebel comes from. I did not know that they
• 1:28:17
  actually had her teaching at that church and she was actually
• 1:28:21
  teaching them the ways of sin. Yes.
• 1:28:24
  I did not know that part. Yes, so she come into the church
• 1:28:29
  acting as and she said stuff like, you know, to to love
• 1:28:34
  yourself is to love God. You should do, you know, sin
• 1:28:39
  because it's, you know, that kind of thing.
• 1:28:41
  Yeah, that's what she was doing. And.
• 1:28:44
  I do know that I don't know where it is, but I don't, I do
• 1:28:48
  know that it said like the the people that repented their sins
• 1:28:52
  for like being with her and everything were like spared.
• 1:28:55
  But like the people that didn't like yeah, you're screwed.
• 1:28:59
  Yeah, and you can see a lot of parallels with a woman teaching
• 1:29:02
  you into the ways of sin and fornication.
• 1:29:04
  Which is why now I do understand a lot better as to why my dad
• 1:29:09
  was so much against women teaching.
• 1:29:12
  Like he didn't have anything wrong with them being deacons.
• 1:29:16
  He thought that was perfectly fine.
• 1:29:18
  But there was a point at the church that I grew up going to
• 1:29:22
  which they called themselves a non denominational church.
• 1:29:26
  You have explained to me why it's.
• 1:29:29
  Basic bits. Protestant, more or less.
• 1:29:32
  And there was one point where I don't know the whole story, but
• 1:29:37
  I do know that the pastor had this woman that was actually
• 1:29:41
  going to give a service during Sunday.
• 1:29:47
  She was going to do the sermon. And my dad was just like, Nope,
• 1:29:52
  no supposed to do that. Like it says it in the Bible.
• 1:29:56
  We're not supposed to do that. Like not like so.
• 1:29:58
  And and. That's when we actually.
• 1:30:00
  Saw I'm going to I'm going to hold your page, but even as you
• 1:30:03
  can see the Bible that he left to me if you go through right.
• 1:30:09
  Yeah, this is the one he left. To me, it's all like the family
• 1:30:12
  stuff and everything that I filled out.
• 1:30:14
  Yeah, time to do that. But it was in the margins.
• 1:30:20
  That's in the other. Bible.
• 1:30:20
  Oh, the other Bible, Yeah. That's in the one that he.
• 1:30:23
  Specifically. Personal Bible he.
• 1:30:24
  Specifically referenced the Timothy by the verse that it
• 1:30:28
  sent you to. That's why I wanted to see if
• 1:30:30
  you would look it up because that's.
• 1:30:31
  Oh yeah, yeah. Where That's the one, yeah.
• 1:30:34
  That's the yeah, that's why I gave you a look.
• 1:30:36
  Yeah, yeah, that's the one your dad left behind for you and me
• 1:30:41
  and. First Timothy, chapter 2, verses
• 1:30:44
  11. Through 12.
• 1:30:46
  Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection, but I
• 1:30:50
  suffer not a woman to teach, nor to upsurf authority.
• 1:30:55
  You, sorry, usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
• 1:31:01
  For Adam was first formed, then Eve, and Adam was not deceived,
• 1:31:07
  but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.
• 1:31:13
  I need to highlight the rest of that and that, but it was the
• 1:31:15
  first part that I was a huge son of A.
• 1:31:18
  Bitch, you fucking knew, that's what.
• 1:31:19
  It was going to take me to didn't.
• 1:31:20
  You. Yeah, I knew.
• 1:31:21
  It's exactly the verse your dad left for you.
• 1:31:25
  And she'd learn in silence. Well, undo that, just so you
• 1:31:29
  know. Well, funny.
• 1:31:31
  Funny enough, that's like one of the big, you know, talking
• 1:31:35
  points that like the left has as to like why Charlie was like bad
• 1:31:41
  because he was quoting like Bible verses that were sexist
• 1:31:47
  according to them. And I'm like, OK, So what?
• 1:31:53
  I think it goes like 17 by the way.
• 1:31:55
  Yeah, I'm still reading. And I was like, Oh,
• 1:32:03
  notwithstanding she shall be saved and childbearing if they
• 1:32:07
  continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety.
• 1:32:13
  This is a true saying. If a man desire the office of
• 1:32:17
  Bishop of a Bishop, he a good work and then it talks about
• 1:32:28
  like what a Bishop must be because it goes into chapter.
• 1:32:30
  Right. And that that's a good the good
• 1:32:32
  Bishop. So.
• 1:32:33
  Yeah, so it's actually First Timothy chapter 2, verses 11
• 1:32:37
  through 15. Yeah, I thought it was either 15
• 1:32:40
  or 17, something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:32:42
  It basically you shouldn't be taking spiritual advice from
• 1:32:45
  women. That's what the Bible.
• 1:32:47
  Says mean by she shall be saved in childbearing well that's part
• 1:32:51
  continue in faith and charity well.
• 1:32:53
  Because like the the wage of the man is to take care of the woman
• 1:32:58
  and be a good father and the wage of the the sin, the
• 1:33:02
  original sin of the woman is child rearing and child taking
• 1:33:07
  good care of her kid. You see?
• 1:33:10
  Yeah. Basically the goal is the same,
• 1:33:13
  but we have different. So maybe I'm thinking about it a
• 1:33:15
  little too much, but it says she shall be saved and childbearing
• 1:33:18
  if they continue in faith and charity and holiness and
• 1:33:21
  sobriety. So does that mean like, is that
• 1:33:24
  like saying like if a woman and like they don't continue in good
• 1:33:29
  faith and stuff like that's? Well, I mean, it's a it's saying
• 1:33:32
  the path to heaven for a woman is to have faith and sobriety
• 1:33:37
  and temperance and all that and also have kids.
• 1:33:42
  OK. Yeah, it's not saying you can't
• 1:33:45
  get into heaven if you don't have kids, but it's saying
• 1:33:47
  that's the path to heaven. Now sound good?
• 1:33:50
  Yeah, yeah, you're good. Yeah.
• 1:33:53
  For women especially, right that's saying that's the path to
• 1:33:56
  heaven is having kids. Well, and but like.
• 1:34:00
  But obviously some women literally cannot have kids.
• 1:34:03
  I don't think it's ruling that out.
• 1:34:05
  Yeah, I know. It's.
• 1:34:06
  Just saying it's much easier for a woman of good faith and
• 1:34:09
  temperance who has kids. Right, and but you know, like
• 1:34:14
  that's like, you know, it's the point I was just bringing up
• 1:34:18
  there. That's why I like a lot of
• 1:34:20
  people are saying, Oh, well, you know, try quoted that and that's
• 1:34:23
  why he's bad. I honestly don't care what these
• 1:34:28
  people think anymore about him. Like you got you guys, you guys
• 1:34:33
  can, you know, kick and scream about he was this, he was that
• 1:34:37
  whatever. The other thing I love too is
• 1:34:41
  like, I don't know if you've seen this Max, but like all
• 1:34:46
  these people who were mad about Charlie and who thought that he
• 1:34:51
  was like some right wing radical.
• 1:34:54
  They're now discovering that like, they're, they're people
• 1:34:58
  like Andrew Tate and, you know, Nick Fuentes and like actual,
• 1:35:06
  you know, like, they've kind of discovered like.
• 1:35:10
  And then there's people like us who've been pushing back against
• 1:35:13
  Nick Fuentes for so well right. And it's like, thanks assholes,
• 1:35:17
  you just drove like 100,000 kids to go check him out.
• 1:35:21
  Fuck you. Well right you're mate, you're
• 1:35:24
  making more Nazis with this bullshit.
• 1:35:27
  Yeah, I do have. I do have a feeling that like in
• 1:35:33
  this is the odd thing is like I know that Nick Fuentes did like
• 1:35:38
  a eulogy for Charlie Kirk's Mosley.
• 1:35:44
  I don't think it's, I don't think it's sincere at all.
• 1:35:49
  I know that might seem a bit harsh, but just based on past
• 1:35:53
  behavior, I called, I called BS. What I will say is I think
• 1:35:59
  there's I think that there are other individuals out there who,
• 1:36:05
  like we said, we're out. We're all Charlie Kirk now.
• 1:36:09
  And, you know, maybe, maybe one day this show will go viral.
• 1:36:16
  And that woman on the train is your sister.
• 1:36:20
  She's your wife. She's your daughter.
• 1:36:23
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:36:26
  So. That's I think the big take
• 1:36:29
  away. Like I'm saying from the Sam
• 1:36:31
  Hyde thing, I highly recommend people check out what he had to
• 1:36:34
  say. It's it's, it's really honest
• 1:36:38
  and heartfelt and very similar to where I'm at.
• 1:36:43
  Yeah. Check out JD Vance's hosting the
• 1:36:47
  Charlie Kurt Show. It was.
• 1:36:50
  It might make you feel at least a little better.
• 1:36:53
  And yeah, I don't know. I don't know what else.
• 1:36:55
  It's been a tough week. I'm trying to my house.
• 1:36:59
  I had a bunch of shit to do this weekend, so that didn't help.
• 1:37:01
  I'm trying to this week I'm going to chill.
• 1:37:03
  I'm going to try to play some video games and relax and get my
• 1:37:08
  bearings and. Well, we, well we do have a.
• 1:37:13
  Episode of Cringing Over Coffee about how Cantwell is a gay porn
• 1:37:17
  star. Yep.
• 1:37:19
  Because that's funny. We'll, we'll be doing the we'll
• 1:37:23
  be doing the Wednesday show for sure.
• 1:37:25
  I'm sure we'll have more stuff to discuss then I'm I'm going to
• 1:37:31
  be asking people if they want to like here's the thing.
• 1:37:37
  Eventually we will be doing a Charlie Kirk memorial show.
• 1:37:42
  I just don't I it feels a little too soon, but we will do one
• 1:37:48
  eventually. But like I said, I just kind of
• 1:37:53
  wanted to do this pre record one just to, you know what people
• 1:38:01
  share kind of their thoughts or you know, just the three of us
• 1:38:06
  kind of share our initial thoughts so.
• 1:38:12
  Be good to each other. Yeah.
• 1:38:16
  Other than that, do you guys have anything else to say?
• 1:38:22
  Oh no, damn, I think I just said it could be good to each other.
• 1:38:26
  Why you got something? Yeah, if I can find it, I think
• 1:38:30
  it's the right one. Yeah.
• 1:38:33
  OK, cool. So people were saying that it's
• 1:38:38
  like 1223 is like the time of his death, Charlie Kirk.
• 1:38:44
  Sure. So John 23 John, sorry, John
• 1:38:50
  chapter 12 verse 23 But the hour cometh, and now is when the true
• 1:38:57
  worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth,
• 1:39:01
  for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
• 1:39:04
  There was another one that people had mentioned about.
• 1:39:09
  I'm trying to remember because I can't remember what the verse
• 1:39:13
  was, but about how it was like the hour of ah crap.
• 1:39:20
  I can't remember now but it was like the hour that someone was
• 1:39:25
  meant to like come to him to to have something good happen or
• 1:39:30
  something like that. I just can't remember.
• 1:39:31
  I hate sucks that I can't remember that but I remember
• 1:39:33
  this. People are putting that all over
• 1:39:35
  social media, so I just kind of wanted to read that since people
• 1:39:38
  are. And and here here's 1 is.
• 1:39:41
  Just picture this for a moment up in heaven somewhere.
• 1:39:46
  You've mentioned, oh, yeah, he'd see your dad.
• 1:39:48
  He sure would. And then your dad would talk his
• 1:39:51
  damn ear off. And that's probably what's going
• 1:39:54
  on right now, is everybody's waiting their turn to have a
• 1:39:56
  chat with Charlie Kirk. And her dad's just sitting there
• 1:39:59
  like, But hold on. But hold on.
• 1:40:00
  We got to talk about Ezekiel now.
• 1:40:06
  It's funny because when you told me, it was like he said he woke
• 1:40:11
  me up from a nap and he told me honestly that the first thing
• 1:40:15
  that I thought was dad, please be up there for Charlie right
• 1:40:20
  now. He's going to need someone
• 1:40:21
  because I know my dad would be the first one there because he
• 1:40:26
  would like feel the heartbreak of like you were just stolen
• 1:40:30
  from your family. You're going to be like and he
• 1:40:32
  would just be there and be like, I got you brother, like that.
• 1:40:35
  Was my dad? Yeah.
• 1:40:38
  And same with my same with my uncle.
• 1:40:42
  Also, nobody loved to beat the Bible as much as her dad.
• 1:40:46
  That's why I say that is oh, Charlie's the debate guy.
• 1:40:49
  Oh boy, he's in trouble. Well, and my, my uncle was what
• 1:40:56
  is probably debating Charlie on like politics and whatnot,
• 1:41:04
  because as I've said, like my uncle was a liberal back when
• 1:41:09
  like being a liberal used to actually like be like not left
• 1:41:17
  wing. Yeah.
• 1:41:21
  So like they're probably having, they're, they're probably having
• 1:41:24
  like a cordial. They're probably having like a
• 1:41:26
  cordial debate. Maybe not, maybe not even that.
• 1:41:31
  They're probably talking about like music or something is my
• 1:41:34
  guess, because that's like if. It were my dad.
• 1:41:38
  I guarantee you they are sitting up there right now and my dad is
• 1:41:42
  sharing every single freaking embarrassing story from my
• 1:41:48
  childhood with Charlie. Not Yep, that was one thing he
• 1:41:53
  loved. Oh my God, like the first time.
• 1:41:56
  The first time that he actually, like, talked to you, when he met
• 1:42:00
  you, I told you one of the most embarrassing stories from my
• 1:42:02
  childhood and I was like, are you fucking kidding me?
• 1:42:05
  They did Well, yeah. Both of her parents did.
• 1:42:10
  But. He well, yeah, I I would I would
• 1:42:13
  also imagine that that Gary is like, oh, so you you knew my
• 1:42:18
  nephew somewhat. OK, Well, let me tell you this.
• 1:42:22
  I bet you didn't know this. I bet you didn't know know that
• 1:42:28
  so. My God, Can you imagine my dad
• 1:42:30
  and Charlie debating about the Bible and Bible verses?
• 1:42:33
  Well, my dad would be so happy. Well, that's what I'm saying, is
• 1:42:36
  your dad to be in his glory. Yep.
• 1:42:38
  And poor Charlie would be stuck there being like, but wait,
• 1:42:41
  that's not how that goes. Yeah, cuz that's what it was
• 1:42:46
  like for me, Sam. Yeah.
• 1:42:48
  And then and he'd be like, no, I'm certain of it.
• 1:42:50
  And we pull out a Bible and he'd be like, yeah, that's exactly
• 1:42:53
  what I said. And I'm like, that's not even
• 1:42:55
  close to what you just said. Sorry, that's why it was so fun,
• 1:43:00
  but it was also immensely frustrating because sometimes he
• 1:43:03
  materialized Bible verses out of the morphine.
• 1:43:11
  It just kind of concealed a bunch of words from the Bible,
• 1:43:14
  like an AI in his head that just generated new verses that never
• 1:43:18
  existed. I can laugh about that now
• 1:43:21
  because, like, yeah. And dad, dad GB Dada GPT
• 1:43:27
  basically. Yeah, no, no.
• 1:43:30
  She never thought it was funny, though.
• 1:43:32
  That's The thing is she was embarrassed by this shit.
• 1:43:35
  It's just, you know, it's been enough time that she could see
• 1:43:38
  the fun. I thought it was funny though,
• 1:43:40
  because I would just be like, hey, I actually think it's like,
• 1:43:45
  not what you just said at all. Well, Max.
• 1:43:48
  I'm certain of it. And we'd be arguing for like 10
• 1:43:50
  minutes till he finally flipped open his Bible.
• 1:43:52
  And he'd be like, yeah, yeah, that's exactly what I said,
• 1:43:57
  like. So I actually realized that I
• 1:43:59
  read the wrong verse and I have the right one.
• 1:44:03
  So this is actually the IT is John chapter 12, verse 23.
• 1:44:08
  I read the wrong one before because I'm stupid.
• 1:44:11
  So this one, I'm going to go with the first one because I
• 1:44:15
  think you need a little bit Philip cometh to telleth Andrew
• 1:44:20
  and again Andrew and Phillip tell Jesus and Jesus answered
• 1:44:24
  them saying the hour is come that the Son of man should be
• 1:44:29
  glorified. And they're saying that's what
• 1:44:32
  it was for for Charlie, like it like the hour for him to be
• 1:44:37
  glorified and whatever. And like it's I I like that.
• 1:44:40
  There was, there was a post really beautiful picture that
• 1:44:46
  somebody had made and it's Charlie and Jesus.
• 1:44:50
  And Charlie says, Father, I could have done so much more.
• 1:44:55
  And Jesus goes, brother, you don't know, but you already have
• 1:44:58
  or something like that or like you don't know what you've
• 1:45:01
  already done. Like, and I was like, yeah,
• 1:45:04
  because I mean, it is, it is astounding to see the entire
• 1:45:10
  world coming together and prayer vigils and and even we're
• 1:45:14
  watching videos. If there's anybody that goes
• 1:45:17
  there and like disrupts A vigil or will trying to destroy a
• 1:45:22
  memorial, people are just like, Nope.
• 1:45:25
  And they're beating them down and getting them arrested.
• 1:45:27
  And it's like, yeah, no, that, you know, Charlie, you did what
• 1:45:31
  you had to do. You spoke your words, you tried
• 1:45:34
  to bring people together. But now we got to take over.
• 1:45:37
  And unfortunately these heathens look man, you need a little bit
• 1:45:41
  of hands on. Ain't all of us got the stones
• 1:45:45
  to just sit there and bite the bullet?
• 1:45:48
  I hate to use that phrase, but that's what it is.
• 1:45:50
  To just sit there and just take it and say let it believe in
• 1:45:54
  God's hands. Some of us, we got that drive.
• 1:45:57
  We got that dog in us to fight back.
• 1:45:59
  Man, We can't all beat Charlie Kirk in that sense, but we can
• 1:46:02
  certainly just not leave his name behind in the dustbin of
• 1:46:06
  history. And As for the people that want
• 1:46:09
  to talk about guns and gun control and guns kill people, a
• 1:46:15
  rock killed Abel, but it wasn't the rock that killed Abel
• 1:46:21
  because it was Cain that picked up the rock.
• 1:46:24
  And he chose to use that rock to kill his own brother because he
• 1:46:30
  was jealous that God liked Abel's offerings more than
• 1:46:37
  Cain's. And God was basically like, you
• 1:46:39
  aren't actually trying, your brother is, but if you do
• 1:46:43
  better, you'll be better. And he took his brother out.
• 1:46:47
  It wasn't the rock that killed Abel, it was Cain.
• 1:46:50
  Cain used the rock. People kill people with guns.
• 1:46:54
  They use the gun to kill people. If you set your gun on the
• 1:46:57
  counter, it ain't going to do shit.
• 1:47:00
  If you set a knife on the counter, it's not going to cut
• 1:47:02
  your cheese for you. It's what someone does with that
• 1:47:07
  object, not the object itself. And they got it's it's rich of
• 1:47:12
  liberals to talk about gun control.
• 1:47:14
  When that shooting in the church previously about a week ago, the
• 1:47:19
  shooter explicitly said that they did it to get gun control
• 1:47:24
  passed. Because we're going to kill your
• 1:47:25
  kids until you give us gun control.
• 1:47:28
  So that's their idea of politics right there.
• 1:47:30
  They don't care for democracy, Sam.
• 1:47:32
  They don't care for constitutions, rules, rights,
• 1:47:35
  none of that. They're just going to scare you
• 1:47:38
  and they're terrorize the community until you do what they
• 1:47:41
  want. Yeah, they're basically doing
• 1:47:43
  like full. So they're going full tariffs
• 1:47:46
  now. That's wonderful.
• 1:47:47
  Yeah. Anyway though, they want you.
• 1:47:51
  Dead. And they want your kids dead.
• 1:47:54
  Yep. They think it's funny.
• 1:47:55
  They. Think it's funny?
• 1:47:57
  I mean, they are they. This is disgusting.
• 1:48:01
  As a mother, as a wife, I cannot.
• 1:48:08
  Erica Kirk is the most badass, strongest woman I have ever
• 1:48:15
  fucking seen. To be able to stand there and
• 1:48:18
  say the things that she said with such conviction and
• 1:48:22
  strength, my God, that woman is a fucking.
• 1:48:25
  Warrior. I know why Charlie married her
• 1:48:28
  and I do not envy what she has to do in the years of raising
• 1:48:34
  those small children. And fuck every single goddamn
• 1:48:39
  person that is criticizing her. For all the.
• 1:48:42
  Blueberry Story you fucking goddamn heartless bitches.
• 1:48:46
  That child is 3 years old, their son younger.
• 1:48:50
  What a year They are going to ask that question, especially
• 1:48:56
  her daughter, over and over and over again.
• 1:49:00
  And that story is going to change.
• 1:49:03
  Each time she tells her daughter or her son where daddy is.
• 1:49:07
  It's going to be different. She chose the best one that she
• 1:49:11
  could think of in the moment of still trying to grieve her
• 1:49:14
  husband and wrap her mind around what just fucking happened and
• 1:49:19
  trying to comfort her 3 year old daughter.
• 1:49:21
  So she said daddy's on a business trip with Jesus to help
• 1:49:24
  budget your blueberry fund. That is fucking beautiful.
• 1:49:29
  That brought tears to my eyes. I think that is beautiful.
• 1:49:32
  And their shirts coming out, my God, red, white and blueberries
• 1:49:36
  made me want to fucking cry. If I could buy that shirt, I
• 1:49:39
  would. There's people talking about
• 1:49:43
  seriously sending them blueberries and saying that it's
• 1:49:47
  from heaven. Like people want to support her
• 1:49:50
  and then other people are. Oh yeah, I've I've been the more
• 1:49:55
  Marthus and I have both been the direct recipients.
• 1:50:00
  Oh, you should. Somebody like you shouldn't be
• 1:50:03
  doing that because you have a condition.
• 1:50:06
  Oh. Fuck yes, that's why.
• 1:50:10
  He knows exactly what it means. They're they're they're fucking
• 1:50:14
  with you. Yeah, Under the guise of concern
• 1:50:18
  for you. People are like the woman who
• 1:50:21
  she's a teacher. I believe she got fired.
• 1:50:25
  I hope she did. Oh, please join me in a moment
• 1:50:28
  of prayer. And then the prayer was
• 1:50:29
  literally mocking the death of Charlie Kirk, correct?
• 1:50:32
  Ha ha ha. And I was like, bitch, you're
• 1:50:35
  lucky I ain't there. I want to fucking punch you in
• 1:50:37
  the goddamn throat. Actually though.
• 1:50:39
  Sorry actually though, like that's not even concern trolling
• 1:50:42
  because at the end she took the mask off Concern trolling.
• 1:50:45
  They don't ever take the mask off.
• 1:50:46
  They constant oh how could she say that to her her to her child
• 1:50:51
  like that? Isn't she awful?
• 1:50:53
  Because they already hate her and they hated her husband and
• 1:50:57
  like. No, that's a beautiful fucking
• 1:50:59
  story, because obviously there's a very deep connection between
• 1:51:02
  her, her father and fucking blueberries.
• 1:51:05
  We don't need, we don't need to explain her.
• 1:51:08
  She doesn't need to explain herself.
• 1:51:10
  We're not fucking playing your game no more.
• 1:51:13
  Dude it was fucking terrible for me to try and explain to our son
• 1:51:19
  when he was 4. Years old.
• 1:51:22
  Of why he was never going to see Papa again.
• 1:51:24
  How can you explain to your child where their grandfather or
• 1:51:30
  their father is when you yourself can't fucking
• 1:51:34
  understand it? She did the best she could as a
• 1:51:37
  mother and I praise her and think that she's a fucking
• 1:51:39
  amazing and strong woman and if I could I would give her a hug.
• 1:51:42
  Yeah, and we're and we're not playing that game of you have to
• 1:51:46
  defend people because my morals, my morals are outraged.
• 1:51:50
  I don't fucking care. You know, you're more a moral
• 1:51:53
  outrage. Looks like a man, an innocent
• 1:51:55
  man getting shot. Our moral outrage is some
• 1:51:57
  prayers. Shut the fuck up.
• 1:52:00
  Shut the absolute fuck up with that.
• 1:52:02
  Shit I we don't fucking. Care no more.
• 1:52:04
  No, I also. With this you have more people
• 1:52:07
  that have one left Democratic Party and other joined the
• 1:52:12
  Republican Party or just weren't anything at all and became
• 1:52:16
  Republicans. You have people that are saying
• 1:52:19
  I want to be Christian. I want to I want to get to know
• 1:52:22
  God. I'm going to go to church for
• 1:52:23
  the first time. Help me.
• 1:52:25
  There's this thing all over TikTok and I actually want to
• 1:52:28
  get it. It is the Bible in 52 weeks
• 1:52:31
  where you it helps you go through the Bible.
• 1:52:34
  I wish I could afford it because yeah, I would love to get that
• 1:52:38
  and go through it and like it like helps you like Bible verses
• 1:52:41
  you should read what you should do talking like showing you like
• 1:52:45
  how you do the things that people are asking.
• 1:52:47
  How do I talk to God? How do I, and I'm like, my God,
• 1:52:49
  I, I, I wish I could get that. I just can't afford it.
• 1:52:51
  But like, this is, this is what's happened.
• 1:52:54
  It's brought people together. It's brought people to God.
• 1:52:57
  It's, it's, it's a sad fucking thing that has made a wonderful
• 1:53:03
  thing start to happen. And.
• 1:53:05
  That's why I think that even if God himself were to whisper in
• 1:53:09
  Charlie's ear, my son, I'm sorry, but this is what has to
• 1:53:13
  happen, Then Charlie would say, well then, father, that's what
• 1:53:17
  has to be done. And I'll be home with you soon.
• 1:53:21
  Because that's the kind he was. Fuck, I didn't want to cry.
• 1:53:24
  It's OK, but but yeah, if you've never heard of concern trolling
• 1:53:29
  before, learn to recognize it. When somebody doesn't have your
• 1:53:33
  best interest in mind at all and they're just criticizing you as
• 1:53:39
  if they're your friend, that's concern trolling.
• 1:53:42
  And the left, that's been their number 1 weapon for about 10
• 1:53:45
  years. Oh my God, you feel that way
• 1:53:48
  are. You're a racist longer sorry for
• 1:53:52
  your. Kids.
• 1:53:53
  Isn't it so bad for their kids that this person's a racist?
• 1:53:57
  That's concern trolling. So it's bullshit.
• 1:54:00
  It's fake bullshit. Hold on, you said you said 10
• 1:54:05
  years. I want to point out that like I
• 1:54:07
  have personally experienced concern trolling since I fucking
• 1:54:13
  started podcasting back in 2007. Oh, oh, Sam, why are you
• 1:54:20
  listening to to Rush Limbaugh? You know he says he says extreme
• 1:54:26
  thing. I'm not so sure You should be
• 1:54:29
  listening to him, buddy. That might.
• 1:54:32
  Not be good for you, yeah. The another example of of
• 1:54:39
  concern trolling that I actually.
• 1:54:43
  To stick on that example, Sam, they would tell you, oh, Rush
• 1:54:46
  Limbaugh says stuff that about handicapped people, right?
• 1:54:51
  Yes. And you would listen to it, and
• 1:54:54
  sometimes it might even sound rough, I guess, if you're a
• 1:54:56
  handicapped person. But you as a reasonable person
• 1:54:59
  can also listen to what Russ says about certain things and be
• 1:55:02
  like, that makes sense, but they want to scare you away.
• 1:55:06
  This is concern trolling. This is exactly.
• 1:55:08
  What, they do the same exact thing with Charlie Kirk, right,
• 1:55:11
  With empathy. So they're like, oh, he says
• 1:55:14
  empathy isn't real and all this shit.
• 1:55:16
  And it's like, listen to what the man actually said.
• 1:55:19
  He said that he doesn't actually like the word empathy.
• 1:55:22
  He thinks that sympathy is a much better word to use because
• 1:55:27
  empathy implies that you feel what that person is feeling and
• 1:55:33
  you cannot feel what another person is feeling, but you can
• 1:55:36
  sympathize with how a person is feeling.
• 1:55:40
  I absolutely agree with that. That's why I hate it when people
• 1:55:43
  are like, oh, you're an impact. I'm like, no I'm not.
• 1:55:45
  I'm just really fucking sympathetic and sensitive you.
• 1:55:48
  Prick. God, it's just, it's just the
• 1:55:53
  thing they use to kind of they control what it means.
• 1:55:58
  And so if you're not, The funny thing is they don't seem to have
• 1:56:03
  any empathy for Charlie Kirk. The other.
• 1:56:07
  The other. Thing too, that I this I guess
• 1:56:11
  is another form of concern trolling.
• 1:56:13
  I saw a lot of this weekend and I actually I and friend people
• 1:56:17
  over this on Facebook was I thought of a yeah, well, I mean,
• 1:56:25
  I don't like the I don't like the fact that he got
• 1:56:28
  assassinated. That was terrible.
• 1:56:30
  But he did say controversial things and so he in a way, he
• 1:56:35
  did kind of bring it on him. Yeah, that he did turn troll,
• 1:56:38
  Yeah. Yeah, I, Oh my, I've I have
• 1:56:41
  really had to. I close my.
• 1:56:44
  Apps because I've seen those exact same things that you're
• 1:56:48
  talking about and I'm just like y'all realize you're still
• 1:56:54
  saying he fucking deserved it right?
• 1:56:56
  Because they do realize. Good, he deserved it.
• 1:56:59
  You're still saying that, you retards just by saying, oh it's
• 1:57:03
  so bad. That's the same thing is when
• 1:57:06
  you say like, you know, not to be mean or not to be rude or
• 1:57:11
  anything, it's this like you're still being rude, you're still
• 1:57:14
  being mean. You're still saying he deserved
• 1:57:16
  it. And that's fucking sick, right?
• 1:57:18
  And because no one deserves that, no Democrat who has ever
• 1:57:22
  been attempted to be assassinated or been
• 1:57:24
  assassinated or been attacked or harmed is OK.
• 1:57:27
  That's fucking wrong. It doesn't matter.
• 1:57:29
  No one fucking deserves that shit.
• 1:57:31
  How fucking hard is it to understand that?
• 1:57:34
  RIP brother. Malcolm.
• 1:57:36
  RIP Brother Martin. All right, I.
• 1:57:40
  I don't stay on just one side. You know, Sam, when I say
• 1:57:44
  Malcolm X's death has affected me and it happened before I was
• 1:57:47
  born, I ain't fucking kidding. And it ain't because of his
• 1:57:49
  politics. It's because of what he had to
• 1:57:51
  say. Yeah, a man Malcolm X is funny
• 1:57:54
  enough, Charlie Kirk in the past is quoted Malcolm X because
• 1:57:57
  Malcolm X cared about family. He cared about integrity.
• 1:58:01
  You heard about standing up for yourself and he said don't trust
• 1:58:04
  any of these fucking media motherfuckers.
• 1:58:06
  They're all liars, didn't he? Also say that like Democrats
• 1:58:09
  were like the most dangerous or something like.
• 1:58:11
  That he said. He said white Liberal Democrats
• 1:58:14
  who pretend to be anti racist are the most racist people.
• 1:58:19
  That's what Malcolm X said. Yeah, yeah, he said white.
• 1:58:22
  He said white liberal. And you know what?
• 1:58:24
  He would. He's fucking right.
• 1:58:27
  He's been proven more right as time has gone on that yeah, that
• 1:58:32
  that's the people that are the most but but but regardless,
• 1:58:35
  it's it's doesn't matter when somebody shut down like this for
• 1:58:39
  their words. I find it a deeply offensive as
• 1:58:42
  an American who believes in the process of a Republic that has a
• 1:58:46
  constitution and human rights and democratic processes through
• 1:58:50
  which we decided our representation.
• 1:58:52
  This has all been decided. Why was that all decided?
• 1:58:54
  Because if we don't have civilization, Sam, we have two
• 1:58:58
  people hitting each other in the head with rocks.
• 1:59:01
  Good question. They are not even a question.
• 1:59:04
  So they they will say to you like, how can you support the
• 1:59:10
  first the 2nd Amendment, but also like be sad about school
• 1:59:15
  shootings? How can you fucking preach about
• 1:59:18
  the importance of free speech when you celebrate a man who was
• 1:59:22
  assassinated for doing exactly that?
• 1:59:26
  Because they only mean theirs. Exactly.
• 1:59:28
  And that's why the concern trolling.
• 1:59:30
  When you spot them concern trolling, don't explain
• 1:59:33
  yourself, don't defend anybody. Just give them give them a
• 1:59:37
  block, a mute. Or a fuck you, we ain't playing.
• 1:59:40
  Your fucking concern game anymore.
• 1:59:42
  We've been. That's what woke is.
• 1:59:43
  Woke is just concern trolling the whole fucking thing.
• 1:59:47
  They concern troll you into being so afraid to have any
• 1:59:49
  normal opinion so that they can change the whole culture to make
• 1:59:53
  themselves look normal. And guess what?
• 1:59:55
  They've been doing it for almost fucking two decades now.
• 1:59:58
  And do they look normal? No, they have bull rings in
• 2:00:01
  their nose and fright colored hair and the men look like they
• 2:00:04
  suck 50 Dicks a day. You know, it's funny that you
• 2:00:08
  mentioned Martin Luther King Junior because I saw a video was
• 2:00:14
  a black guy sitting in his car. And he said, you know, I hear a
• 2:00:19
  lot of people saying like, why are they so upset about this?
• 2:00:23
  Why are they so vocal about this?
• 2:00:25
  And he looked right into his phone and he said, because he
• 2:00:29
  was there, Martin. That's why, like, Charlie Kirk
• 2:00:37
  is our Martin Luther King junior.
• 2:00:39
  And he too was assassinated for saying things that people didn't
• 2:00:44
  like. My my my stepfather such.
• 2:00:50
  A peace and godliness at that. My stepfather, My stepfather
• 2:00:56
  John, Big shout out to him. He he's he's the same age as RK
• 2:01:03
  Junior. He remembers when MLK was shot.
• 2:01:11
  He hadn't heard of Charlie Kirk, unfortunately, until just this
• 2:01:17
  past few days. But he said that yeah, this is
• 2:01:26
  basically like my generation's equivalent of and.
• 2:01:31
  The Liberals can't see it because they all they see is
• 2:01:35
  black and white. By the way, by the way, he, he
• 2:01:40
  was a former. He was.
• 2:01:44
  He was a JFK Democrat growing up.
• 2:01:50
  Yeah, but these liberals, they can't, they can't see anything
• 2:01:53
  but the black and the white of the situation.
• 2:01:55
  And so they're like, how could you ever see that as the same?
• 2:01:58
  But you know, I, I've already talked to several black guys
• 2:02:02
  that have told me they're like, yeah, this, this is, to me, this
• 2:02:05
  feels a lot like MLK or. Martin well.
• 2:02:08
  Or or Malcolm X and I'm like, I can't deny it feels to me if
• 2:02:12
  that does feel a lot like a Malcolm X Martin situation.
• 2:02:15
  And you know, what scares me about that, Sam, is that Martin
• 2:02:19
  was killed 1st and then Malcolm X, and the Malcolm X was the
• 2:02:23
  more extreme of the two voices. So I'm worried that this is not
• 2:02:26
  going to be the only situation we have.
• 2:02:31
  Yeah. Not not unless, you know, Trump
• 2:02:35
  can do the things that he's saying he wants to do or even
• 2:02:38
  like, you know, go the the people that were a part of that
• 2:02:43
  discord that that fucking you don't have nothing nice to say.
• 2:02:48
  Don't say nothing nice at all. But that little fucking faggot
• 2:02:51
  was a part of that plan. This whole fight.
• 2:02:54
  They all need to be fucking investigated.
• 2:02:57
  They all need to suffer consequences because I mean,
• 2:02:59
  they went on social money. We fucking did it.
• 2:03:01
  OK, so that leads me to think that you had a hand in planning
• 2:03:05
  this. You there's something you did
• 2:03:08
  that helped with this. You need to be investigated,
• 2:03:11
  which I guess like people already are being.
• 2:03:14
  Yeah, we need to make Antifa a fucking terrorist organ.
• 2:03:17
  Like, let's do it. Fucking Trump, he says if he
• 2:03:19
  could do it, he's going to do it.
• 2:03:20
  Like let's fucking do it. We need to.
• 2:03:21
  It's about fucking time. Like if we can do these fucking
• 2:03:26
  things, then like, I mean, yeah, maybe.
• 2:03:30
  But like, I, I am, I am at the point and I hate admitting this,
• 2:03:37
  but I know that the part of me that like wants to like push
• 2:03:40
  back is stronger. I'm like even like I'm scared to
• 2:03:43
  let my kid go out of the house. I'm scared to like sitting here
• 2:03:49
  right now, kind of scared of the things that I've been saying and
• 2:03:53
  I'm saying right now because. There was a point, God.
• 2:03:57
  Damn. I am Charlie Kirk.
• 2:03:59
  I like, I'm like more extreme than he was on some things,
• 2:04:02
  except for like, maybe like, abortion and like contraceptive.
• 2:04:05
  That's like the only part where I was like, yeah, you're a
• 2:04:07
  little strong on that, but mad respect for you being that
• 2:04:10
  strong in your faith. Yeah.
• 2:04:12
  Awesome. That could be me.
• 2:04:15
  And so it's scary because I've seen what people are saying.
• 2:04:18
  I've already seen the people getting the death threats and
• 2:04:20
  I'm like, my God, it's really fucking scary for me.
• 2:04:24
  And. Yeah, I, I.
• 2:04:26
  Wish I could explain that too, but I can't because they're
• 2:04:29
  unfortunately on the liberal side and they don't get it.
• 2:04:33
  And it it, it kind of really hurts not to be able to talk to
• 2:04:36
  them about it. Well, I mean, well, I mean, you
• 2:04:42
  know, if you're, I mean, if it, if it makes you, I don't know if
• 2:04:46
  it if this is going to make you feel any better, but like, I was
• 2:04:49
  thinking at this like I've been, you know, like Charlie and I
• 2:04:53
  came up basically during the same era.
• 2:04:58
  I recognize that my, you know, I, I'm nowhere near as I'm
• 2:05:05
  nowhere near as famous as CC which.
• 2:05:09
  Is crazy because of how you are, but go ahead.
• 2:05:12
  And that, that's honestly. Thank you.
• 2:05:15
  But yeah, I mean. Sam is for you.
• 2:05:17
  I worry for you, Sam, I'm not going to lie.
• 2:05:20
  Like because as much as as much as I went to my husband and it
• 2:05:25
  was like, what if that was you? What if that was Sam?
• 2:05:29
  That that would devastate me, almost.
• 2:05:31
  I'm going to tell you this, if anything ever happens to Sam,
• 2:05:35
  you better believe I'll never be shut up again.
• 2:05:38
  I have, I have friends who and I do not mean this as a threat,
• 2:05:43
  but I do have friends who are ex.
• 2:05:48
  There's a lot of. People that would protect you
• 2:05:50
  with their lives. Actually, I'm one of them.
• 2:05:53
  Yeah, well, and I also have a lot of friends who, God forbid
• 2:05:56
  something were to happen to me, guests on the show who are
• 2:06:01
  retired military, they would go well, they.
• 2:06:09
  All the law enforcement we've had on the show, that's The
• 2:06:12
  thing is like, yeah. You would have your own army.
• 2:06:15
  Yeah. Yeah, but it's still, it is
• 2:06:19
  scary because Charlie knew all kinds of people, you know?
• 2:06:22
  And at the end of the day, yeah, like I do, I do worry for Sam
• 2:06:27
  because Sam's been very public with his full name and stuff as
• 2:06:30
  long as he since he was a teenager.
• 2:06:32
  Which which by the way I. Used to be able to say sorry to
• 2:06:37
  cut you off, but I used to be able to say, but he's not that
• 2:06:40
  extreme, but he's more extreme than Charlie Kirk.
• 2:06:44
  Yeah. And everybody.
• 2:06:45
  Here is that's why a lot of people are saying that now like
• 2:06:48
  I am Charlie Kirk, because it's other.
• 2:06:50
  I have the same exact views, conservative Christian or like,
• 2:06:55
  wow, I'm actually a little bit more extreme than him on some
• 2:06:59
  stuff. And they went after him like,
• 2:07:01
  yeah, it's. We liked it.
• 2:07:05
  Because you mean see. Me and Shroully would always
• 2:07:07
  talk about we are on the more extreme and not even in our
• 2:07:11
  ideas but in the things we talk about, the high end philosophy
• 2:07:15
  type things and psychology and evolutionary psychology and
• 2:07:19
  things like that. The feed into the meta of how
• 2:07:21
  society works, anthropology, things like this.
• 2:07:25
  Most people don't care about any of that shit.
• 2:07:26
  It goes over their head. And so in that way, we're more
• 2:07:29
  extreme, right? But what we actually are is we
• 2:07:32
  look at somebody like Charlie Kirk, a normal person can watch
• 2:07:37
  his debate, follow along and understand that, hey, that's
• 2:07:41
  basically where I'm at. They don't need us to talk about
• 2:07:44
  the the epistemology. They don't need Kurt Doolittle's
• 2:07:49
  high end ethics system. That's stuff for us nerds,
• 2:07:53
  right? And so we always loved having a
• 2:07:56
  Charlie Kirk there for that fucking reason.
• 2:07:58
  He was the voice of an entry level of somebody who could come
• 2:08:02
  in and say what even is going on.
• 2:08:04
  And you've even seen him in real time with people who come from
• 2:08:08
  the other side, and they've said, wait a minute, if what
• 2:08:12
  you're saying is true, I have some questions to ask.
• 2:08:17
  Yeah, like I've watched so many like clips and and videos of his
• 2:08:23
  and I've even watched clips of the Charlie Kirk show.
• 2:08:26
  I mean, I follow it on Twitter. I'm not Twitter, TikTok and
• 2:08:29
  everything. And like, you will literally see
• 2:08:32
  some people there, they're at the mic and they, they got their
• 2:08:35
  phone out and then they're going, they're like, yeah, but
• 2:08:38
  this, but this. And he'll just be like, OK, but
• 2:08:40
  here's a fact. Here's a statement.
• 2:08:42
  Bam, look it up. And they'll be like, no, it's Oh
• 2:08:47
  my God. And it could be whether it's
• 2:08:49
  like that Planned Parenthood was actually founded by a racist who
• 2:08:53
  wanted to use it to work out the black population, that the KKK
• 2:08:58
  was actually founded by the Democratic Party.
• 2:09:00
  No, it was not. Like, oh, the Republican Party
• 2:09:02
  said no. The Democratic Party was doing
• 2:09:05
  that all along. He, the very fine people hoax.
• 2:09:10
  Yeah, he he made everybody, not everybody, but a lot, a lot of
• 2:09:14
  people that were on the other side or on the fence stop and
• 2:09:18
  go. Whoa dude, really like I?
• 2:09:21
  Didn't. And even if he didn't, even if
• 2:09:23
  he didn't, he walked away 99% of the times with a handshake and a
• 2:09:27
  thank you for coming on both parties, not just Charlie.
• 2:09:31
  And I love it because it's absolutely true.
• 2:09:33
  If you, if you drop down to Oh my God, why does your face look
• 2:09:39
  like that? Like, Oh my God, like you can't
• 2:09:41
  get pussy. You can't.
• 2:09:43
  He's married, he's got two kids. He was not.
• 2:09:46
  He was not a bad looking dude. You look like a freak.
• 2:09:50
  You're decked out in fucking rainbow.
• 2:09:52
  Everything purple here. You got the fucking bull nose.
• 2:09:54
  We should just hook you up and drag you off.
• 2:09:57
  When you go to insults, you know you've already lost the debate.
• 2:10:02
  You got not and you, there's nothing you can say, there's
• 2:10:04
  nothing you can contribute. So you attack and that is
• 2:10:07
  Sutton, Charlie always fucking pointed out.
• 2:10:10
  They always go for the personal attacks when they know they've
• 2:10:13
  lost the debate and they have nothing else to bring.
• 2:10:15
  But what did they say about me with the straight pride thing?
• 2:10:18
  I got people on fucking. You're an in cell.
• 2:10:20
  I'm an in cell. OK, well tell my wife about my
• 2:10:24
  in. Cell Ness.
• 2:10:25
  I was at home with the kid that's.
• 2:10:27
  Fine, you go, but you better. Tell him I like him and.
• 2:10:30
  I did. You tried to get like you did,
• 2:10:32
  you tell him and I like that. You tried to get like a picture
• 2:10:33
  or video, but like, yes, it was kind of hectic, but it's like a
• 2:10:37
  little. At least he knows.
• 2:10:38
  I, I just wanted to say, Maxine, this might be the perfect time
• 2:10:43
  as long as you're going down the Charlie Kirk rabbit hole.
• 2:10:47
  And I think Max is knows what I'm about to say.
• 2:10:50
  But while you're looking up Charlie Kirk, you might as well
• 2:10:54
  look up another gentleman that we both admired by the name of
• 2:10:58
  Andrew Breitbart and watch a lot of his video videos too, because
• 2:11:06
  as. Long as we're shouting out,
• 2:11:08
  gentlemen, you should look up. Check out this dude.
• 2:11:11
  He's awesome. It's Murdoch.
• 2:11:13
  Murdoch. Yeah, you've.
• 2:11:15
  Been watching a lot of that lately.
• 2:11:17
  I rewatched the whole series and yo, he they came out of hiding
• 2:11:25
  and passed off a book that he wrote the main guy, and it's
• 2:11:30
  fucking phenomenal. It's absolutely amazing.
• 2:11:34
  Anyway, he came after all these years because they ended the
• 2:11:38
  show Murdoch Murdoch a couple years ago and they just were
• 2:11:40
  like, we're going to stay anonymous, We're gone, we're
• 2:11:43
  never coming back. But this dude, I shout out to
• 2:11:46
  old Sterling on YouTube started making videos like hey, this
• 2:11:50
  cartoon was really funny and and kind of society had a bit of
• 2:11:54
  impact. It's basically it wasn't bad.
• 2:11:56
  It was basically 4 Chan the cartoon in a lot of ways and
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  like it's all about the hero's journey and becoming a man and
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  facing the fact that you become a grown ass man that's playing
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  video games and there's bigger problems in the world, right?
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  And that's kind of the whole arc of the series.
• 2:12:14
  And so he comes out, he sees that this video has gotten real
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  popular, and they sent a message to the guy that made the video,
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  an e-mail with this book. And they even left the voice to
• 2:12:27
  their voices for sure. And so it's them.
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  And it's a book that he wrote, not a fiction book, but about
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  his journey from making Murdoch, Murdoch and like, all the stuff
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  that was going on at the time. And men does it hit home for me
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  because, yeah, that's where I was in the thick of that meme
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  war. And I highly recommend.
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  Check it out. Ain't charging.
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  It's a book I'm promoting that's completely free.
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  He doesn't want any money because he wants to be
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  anonymous, because he and I, he comes back, puts his head back
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  up, and then Charlie Kirk, the most milquetoast guy in the
• 2:13:04
  world, gets murdered. I don't blame him for wanting to
• 2:13:06
  stay anonymous. Yeah, because their stuff is a
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  lot more controversial than that.
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  But yeah, I'm glad that he was able to pass us the book because
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  it's a short. It's it's very short, but it was
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  it was a good read. And I'm glad to know that they
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  are doing OK. The cast of Murdoch.
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  Murdoch is doing OK. Good.
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  Yeah, but in my, I think that'll do it for tonight's show.
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  We'll be back Wednesday. So thanks to everyone who has
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  tuned in. And until next time, you know,
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  stay frosty. Unfortunately, keep your head on
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  a swivel because that's. Don't do gay pornography well,
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  Cantwell needed a reminder. Almost.
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  The entire time and. I didn't hit you and you had to
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  say that. He he already did it, Max.
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  But anyway, we'll be back Wednesday and yeah, take care
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  and we'll talk to you later. The right to offend is not some
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  pesky little part of freedom of speech that we have to put up
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  with. It is the heart and soul and
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  lungs of freedom of speech. It is the coursing lifeblood of
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  human process. It is the instigator of liberty
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  and modernity and science and understanding.
• 2:14:37
  What a laughing stock today's student leaders are that they
• 2:14:41
  can so casually dismiss the right to be offensive without
• 2:14:45
  realizing that their lovely, enlightened lives are the gifts
• 2:14:50
  of individuals who gave offence. Offensiveness is not just
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  something we have to begrudgingly accept.
• 2:14:57
  Offensiveness is the motor of human progress.
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