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- 0:21Hello and welcome back.
- 0:22Today is Sunday and hereby time for another
- 0:24episode of the podcast.
- 0:27Today we are going to do a deep
- 0:29dive in one of the most controversial and
- 0:30fascinating figures in alternative archaeology, Michael Tellinger, the
- 0:35South African who went from being a pharmacist
- 0:38and musician to becoming a voice that challenged
- 0:40everything we think we know about human origins.
- 0:45We are going to make a deep dive
- 0:47into Tellinger's claims about the vanished civilization in
- 0:51Southern Africa, about the creative powers of sound,
- 0:55about giants that once walked the earth, and
- 0:57about a very special significance of gold from
- 1:01beings from another world.
- 1:04I'm going to use citations from Michael Tellinger's
- 1:08public performances and in order to avoid any
- 1:11copyright stuff I will read them myself.
- 1:14My voice will change into this artificial language
- 1:18or speech in order to avoid any kind
- 1:22of problems with copyrights.
- 1:26So as Challenger himself puts it in one
- 1:28of his lectures the world is covered in
- 1:33countless unimaginable numbers of ancient megalithic sites built
- 1:38by civilizations and people we know nothing about.
- 1:43We have no idea what happened on this
- 1:45planet.
- 1:46We literally look like babies waking up from
- 1:49a deep sleep.
- 1:51And as we shall see it's particularly in
- 1:54Southern Africa that holds secrets that, according to
- 1:58Challenger, surpass anything else on the planet.
- 2:02Let's start right where Tellinger's own journey really
- 2:06took off, in the eastern South Africa near
- 2:09the town of Waterwall, Bowen.
- 2:11This is where he moved in 2007 and
- 2:15started exploring the strange stone circles shattered around
- 2:19the landscape.
- 2:21And here comes one of the first astonishing
- 2:22claims, the number.
- 2:26By the time I finished counting yesterday, I
- 2:29counted more than 10 millions of those stone
- 2:32structures.
- 2:34Not four and a half thousand, or twenty
- 2:36thousand, or hundred thousand.
- 2:38More than 10 million.
- 2:41Oh my god, we just discovered a vanished
- 2:44civilization nobody knows anything about.
- 2:4710 million stone circles.
- 2:49If that number holds true, that is the
- 2:51largest concentration of ancient ruins anywhere in the
- 2:54world.
- 2:55For comparison, there is about 138 pyramids in
- 2:58Egypt.
- 3:00But what are those circles?
- 3:03According to Tellinger's, the answer is neither houses
- 3:07nor cattle enclosures, because there is one crucial
- 3:10detail.
- 3:12The key thing here is that there's no
- 3:14door and entrances.
- 3:16So this cannot be dwellings for people, or
- 3:19cows, or animals.
- 3:21Because clearly they were not built with doors
- 3:24and entrances.
- 3:26They are something else.
- 3:28As early as 1939, archaeologists noticed the lack
- 3:32of doors and entrances.
- 3:33So what were they then?
- 3:37Tellinger's answer is that they were gigantic energy
- 3:41machines created to amplify the earth's natural frequencies.
- 3:45And the key to understanding this lies in
- 3:47the phenomenon of semantics, the sound's ability to
- 3:51create physical patterns.
- 3:53Every sound frequency has a very specific own
- 3:58shape.
- 4:00The stone circles are just semantic patterns representing
- 4:03the shape of the sound coming out of
- 4:07the ground at that specific place.
- 4:12He refers to experiments where sand on a
- 4:16metal plate forms a complex geometric pattern when
- 4:20the plate vibrates.
- 4:22In the same way, Tellinger's says, each and
- 4:25every stone circles reflect the sound frequencies of
- 4:28the underground, and by placing stones precisely on
- 4:33these patterns, the ancient builders amplified the energy.
- 4:42In the middle of this enormous network of
- 4:45stone circles lies a place Tellinger calls Adam's
- 4:48calendar, rediscovered in 2003 by a pilot named
- 4:52Johan Heine.
- 4:56This site is the oldest example of a
- 4:59working Sun calendar.
- 5:01It still works.
- 5:03As you can see, the shadow of the
- 5:05rock closest to us casts a shadow on
- 5:08the calendar stone, and it moves from left
- 5:11to right, from summer solstice to winter solstice.
- 5:14When it reaches the right edge, it comes
- 5:18back.
- 5:19So you can tell every day of the
- 5:22year based on the setting of the Sun.
- 5:26But according to Tellinger, it's much more than
- 5:29just a calendar.
- 5:31It's a powerful energy machine, the most powerful
- 5:33of all the ruins.
- 5:36We measured a beroind 375 gigahertz, 1700 megahertz
- 5:45electromagnetic field running horizontally, and another one running
- 5:50vertically out of it.
- 5:52We definitely have the indication of a toroidal
- 5:57vortex field being generated.
- 6:00He claims the sites generate a toroidal field,
- 6:04a donut-shaped energy vortex, and that drones
- 6:08that flew over the site consistently loses connection.
- 6:14And then there's the oil traditions.
- 6:19Tellinger sought out the late Shul Shaman Kridhu
- 6:25Muthwa, sorry for my pronunciation, who broke down
- 6:32crying when he saw photos of the site.
- 6:36He said he never thought he'll see this
- 6:40special place again because he was initiated there
- 6:44in 1937.
- 6:46He said it was known as Isulu Yiyaka
- 6:51or the birthplace of the Sun, where humanity
- 6:54was created by the gods to be slaves
- 6:56in the gold mines.
- 6:59Created by the gods to be slaves in
- 7:02the gold mines.
- 7:04That brings us to the next layer of
- 7:06Tellinger's theory.
- 7:10Gold, the yellow metal that fascinated humanity for
- 7:13millennia.
- 7:14But according to Tellinger's, our obsession is not
- 7:16our own, it's inherent.
- 7:19And I personally think here he has a
- 7:22point because, you know, by the end of
- 7:24the day, gold is pretty useless.
- 7:27I mean, you cannot make a plow of
- 7:29it, you cannot make a sword of it,
- 7:30you cannot make any kind of practical application.
- 7:34I know it's a lot of money worth,
- 7:36but for the people at that time, it
- 7:40is pretty much useless, unless for jewelry.
- 7:46But back to Tellinger.
- 7:50Human obsession of gold is inherited from the
- 7:54gods, the gods with a small g, the
- 7:58Elohim, the Anunnaki.
- 8:01Here Tellinger draws on the Sumerian text and
- 8:05particularly Zecharia Sitchin's controversial translations describing the
- 8:10Anunnaki beings who came to earth to mine
- 8:14gold.
- 8:16A primitive worker shall be created.
- 8:19Our command he understand.
- 8:21The tools, our tools he will handle to
- 8:26the Anunnaki in the Apsu reliefs shall come.
- 8:30Abzu, according to Tellinger, refers to the southern
- 8:33Africa, the place where the gold came from,
- 8:37and he points to concrete finds.
- 8:41Between 2005 and 2010, Anglo-American did a
- 8:50survey.
- 8:51They found thousands of these ancient arid mines.
- 8:55They found 75,000 of these ancient mines.
- 9:02And just for the listener, Anglo-American is
- 9:04the largest mining company in the world.
- 9:08So, he also tells about a remarkable story
- 9:11about the Sheba gold mine near Barbotown, allegedly
- 9:16one of the richest gold mines in the
- 9:20world.
- 9:20Here the geologist was called during the 1980s
- 9:23to investigate a mysterious phenomenon.
- 9:27He discovered a giant, huge underground cave, larger
- 9:32than the Vatican, and these veins of gold
- 9:36that were oozing out of the walls, slow,
- 9:39thick, jelly-type movements of gold coming out
- 9:43of the walls.
- 9:45Some of these veins were empty, so whoever
- 9:52was mining gold had the technology to suck
- 9:55out the gold of this vein without blasting
- 9:59or destroying any rocks about it.
- 10:01A technology, Tellinger believes, that points to the
- 10:05Anunnaki.
- 10:08A central element in Tellinger worldview is the
- 10:12fundamental role of sound in the creation.
- 10:14He often quotes the opening words in the
- 10:16Bible.
- 10:20God say, let there be light.
- 10:22For Tellinger, this is not a metaphor.
- 10:25That is a precise description of sound-manifest
- 10:29lights.
- 10:30He points to the phenomenon of solo luminance,
- 10:35where sound waves in water can create small
- 10:38flashes of light.
- 10:41When you put a sound frequency into a
- 10:44body of water, after a little while, a
- 10:47beautiful bubble appears filled with light.
- 10:51Sound in water creates light.
- 10:55He believes that the universe fundamentally consists of
- 10:58sound, and that all the things from atoms
- 11:01to galaxies are toroidal fields, meaning donut-shaped
- 11:05energy structures.
- 11:08Everything manifests as a torus.
- 11:10Electrons are toruses, atoms are toruses, solar systems
- 11:14are toruses, galaxies are toruses.
- 11:16And here comes one of the most radical
- 11:19claims, that sound can travel faster than light.
- 11:24In the Middle Tennessee State University in 2005,
- 11:28a bunch of Stoughton students propelled sound beyond
- 11:31the speed of light.
- 11:33The denser the material, the slower the speed
- 11:35of light.
- 11:37The converse is true for sound.
- 11:39The denser the medium, the faster the speed
- 11:42of sound.
- 11:43So how does sound travel in indifferently dense
- 11:49medium immediately fast?
- 11:53He connects this to the zero point, the
- 11:57infinity dense center in every toroidal field, and
- 12:01argues that this explains phenomena like telepathy and
- 12:05bilocation.
- 12:10Over the years, Tellinger has collected hundreds of
- 12:15strange stone artifacts from ruins.
- 12:20Two types stand out, cone-shaped tools and
- 12:22donut-shaped torus stones.
- 12:25Cone-shaped tools are one of the most
- 12:27ignored tools and artifacts in human history.
- 12:32Once you know how to focus the sound
- 12:34frequencies into a cone-shaped tool, by the
- 12:37time that the frequencies leave the tip, it
- 12:40moves incredibly fast.
- 12:41It becomes hypersound, creating what is known as
- 12:44a Caesar beam.
- 12:46He points to ancient descriptions, Sumerian seals, Egyptian
- 12:50relief, Mayan statues, all showing beings holding cones.
- 12:54And he tells the story of Ed Lietzkalnin,
- 12:59who built the Coral Castle in the Florida
- 13:01with enormous coral blocks.
- 13:06Two boys climb over the wall and saw
- 13:09him levitating those big stones with an ice
- 13:12cream cone.
- 13:14That is why I call it the Ice
- 13:17Cream Cone Phenomenon.
- 13:20The other types of the torus stones.
- 13:23Tellinger has a very special story about them.
- 13:28In 2013, I packed these torus stones in
- 13:32a bubble wrap, threw it in my hand
- 13:34luggage at Doha International Airport.
- 13:37They hauled me off the plane.
- 13:39Five guys with guns, security threat in your
- 13:42back.
- 13:43When I come back, my partner said, when
- 13:46the captain came out of the cockpit, he
- 13:48says whatever was in that bag crashed the
- 13:51TSA security system.
- 13:54So we had a homeland security to thank
- 13:58for proving our scientifically that is where we're
- 14:04dealing with the ancient advanced technology.
- 14:09He also shows thermal images of the torus
- 14:12stones that allegedly shows a temperature difference up
- 14:15to 20 degrees Celsius between the two sides
- 14:18of the stone, which he interprets as evidence
- 14:21that the stone generates energy.
- 14:28In 2018, Tellinger's research took an unexpected turn.
- 14:32During an expedition, he and his team found
- 14:35what they believe are petrified body parts from
- 14:39giants and from unknown creatures.
- 14:43Nothing could have prepared me for the discovery
- 14:46of January 2018, when my first stone circle
- 14:51research team accidentally discovered the mud fossils of
- 14:55giants and other creatures.
- 14:58He describes how for years he walked past
- 15:01strangely shaped stones without understanding what they were,
- 15:06but suddenly it dawned to him.
- 15:10I pick up a stone and thought, why
- 15:13is this stone this weird shape?
- 15:16And when the penny dropped, I said, oh
- 15:19my god, it's a rib.
- 15:21And then anything changed.
- 15:24Since then, he collected hundreds of these fossils
- 15:27in his museum.
- 15:29He shows pictures of what he has identified
- 15:32as a heart with visible coronary artery, confirmed
- 15:37by a passing surgeon, ribs, some of them
- 15:40with marks that look like knife cuts, a
- 15:44jawbone 20 times larger than a human, a
- 15:48claw from an unknown creature, a hoof, skin
- 15:52with reptilian-like scales.
- 15:56The fascinating thing is that this fossilized process
- 16:00completely transmutes from horn-filled rocks.
- 16:05You can hardly see the internal organs.
- 16:10It just converts anything into horn-filled rocks
- 16:13that rings like a bell.
- 16:17He knows that many of the stone circles,
- 16:19stones, are actually petrified body parts and that
- 16:23they ring like a bell when struck.
- 16:26Tellinger connects these finds to an ancient text
- 16:29about giants.
- 16:32In the book of Enochs, it clearly talks
- 16:35about giants that were 3,000 eels high,
- 16:40and eels is just short of a half
- 16:42a meter.
- 16:43So 3,000 eels makes these giants one
- 16:46and a half kilometer tall, or just short
- 16:49of a mile.
- 16:51He also showed pictures of a giant footprint
- 16:55in granite near his home.
- 16:59This giant footprint is in granite.
- 17:02When I first started showing this, people said
- 17:05this is impossible to leave a footprint in
- 17:08granite.
- 17:09That's based on this, their feeble and childlike
- 17:14understanding of geology.
- 17:18We now switch to the gold, the Kruger
- 17:21gold.
- 17:23Tellinger connects to the ancient mysteries with more
- 17:28recent history, particularly the Second Boer War that
- 17:32was in 1899 to 1902, in which he
- 17:40called a war over gold.
- 17:44The British Empire sent 470,000 men to
- 17:48fight about 60,000 farmers.
- 17:51The most powerful empire in history fighting a
- 17:54bunch of farmers on horseback.
- 17:56You gotta ask yourself, why?
- 18:00The answer, according to Schellinger, lies in President
- 18:02Paul Kruger's mysterious gold reserve.
- 18:07On June the 4th, 1900, a train filled
- 18:12with gold left Pretoria.
- 18:15It was a train loaded with gold, not
- 18:18one carriage, estimated range from 3 tons to
- 18:223,000 tons.
- 18:26The train vanished without a trace after the
- 18:28town of Machadordorp.
- 18:33Sorry, look in the transcript for the right
- 18:36spelling, but Tellinger also asked different questions.
- 18:43The question is not what happened to the
- 18:45train, the question is where did Paul Kruger
- 18:49get all the gold from?
- 18:51The gold production in 1900 was about one
- 18:59and a half ton per annum, so where
- 19:03did he get dozens or maybe thousands of
- 19:07tons from?
- 19:09His theory is that Kruger's men digging tunnels
- 19:12to hide from the British Empire stumbled upon
- 19:15ancient Anunnaki tunnels filled with gold, hidden before
- 19:19the Great Flood.
- 19:23They probably stumbled upon the ancient Anunnaki tunnels
- 19:27filled with possessed gold, where they only had
- 19:31hidden the gold before the flood came and
- 19:35destroyed everything.
- 19:38This is what made Paul Kruger so incredibly
- 19:41dangerous to the royal bloodlines.
- 19:44He also mentioned the discovery of the pre
- 19:47-Inca statues in the sinkhole tunnel near Charleston
- 19:51in the 1970s as evidence that various ancient
- 19:55sculptures were in South Africa, likely brought here
- 19:59by the Anunnaki.
- 20:06After all this information in the past, Schellinger
- 20:09turns his gaze to the future, because what
- 20:15good is all the knowledge if you don't
- 20:17use it?
- 20:21If we can't put this information into good
- 20:23use, it's completely bloody useless.
- 20:28His answer is the Ubuntu movement and one
- 20:31small town can change the world, his initiative.
- 20:34The idea is simple.
- 20:38Find a small town of around 5,000
- 20:41people who wants to participate in their own
- 20:44makeover.
- 20:45Identities, special skills and talents.
- 20:48Everyone contribute three hours per week towards community
- 20:52projects.
- 20:53Reproduce at least three times as much as
- 20:55we need.
- 20:56One third is distributed freely to the participant.
- 21:00Two thirds sold on the open market, cheaper
- 21:02than any competitor because of free labor.
- 21:06The goal is to create a parallel economy
- 21:09that makes money obsolete.
- 21:13Money will become the tool that destroys capitalism.
- 21:18We use the tool to enslave us, to
- 21:20free us from that slavery.
- 21:24He sees this as an illusionary necessity, a
- 21:31way to break free from the system that
- 21:33he believes has been imposed on humanity by
- 21:36the first royal bloodlines that came from heaven
- 21:39with fierce weapons.
- 21:45Michael Tellinger's universe is one where nothing is
- 21:49what we thought.
- 21:51Where sound is the primary creative force, where
- 21:55giants with a mile tall once walked the
- 21:58earth, where the Anunnaki might go using advanced
- 22:02sound technology, and where the remains of the
- 22:05civilization lies scattered across the southern Africa.
- 22:08Ten million stone circles still humming with energy.
- 22:13Is it science, is it fantasy, or is
- 22:15it a blend?
- 22:17As he said himself, the more questions we
- 22:22ask, the more mysterious things become.
- 22:26And if anybody ever tells you, don't research
- 22:29that, you should probably be on the right
- 22:35track to something.
- 22:39Whenever one thinks Tellinger's conclusions, he is undoubtedly
- 22:43brought attention to a remarkable archaeology landscape that
- 22:48the mainstream research has largely ignored.
- 22:51But let's talk about the traditional scientific view.
- 22:57So how does the established science say about
- 23:01Michael Tellinger's claims?
- 23:03Let's take them point by point.
- 23:07The circular stone structures Schellinger refers to is
- 23:10well known to archaeologists.
- 23:13They are typically assessed with the Balconic culture
- 23:17or the early Sotho-Tswana people and dates
- 23:23to between 1500 and 1800 CE, so it's
- 23:28relatively recent.
- 23:30They interpreted as the combination of dwellings, cattle
- 23:34enclosures, and ritual sites.
- 23:36Many actually has opening contrary to Schellinger's claims.
- 23:41Archaeologists note that the openings are often collapsed
- 23:44or filled with soil over the time, which
- 23:46may explain Tellinger's observations.
- 23:52If we talk about the Adam calendar, the
- 23:55stone formation at Karp's Hoop, which Tellinger's calls
- 24:02Adam's calendar, is according to geologist and natural
- 24:06dolomite formation.
- 24:08South African geologist Maurice Widjo has pointed out
- 24:13that similar natural stone formations exist throughout the
- 24:17region, created by erosion and geological processes.
- 24:26Archaeostromers, who have visited the site, find no
- 24:30convincing evidence of deliberate astronomical orientation.
- 24:33The alignment tells us point to fields which
- 24:36in what will be statistically expected from a
- 24:43random stone placement.
- 24:46Regarding the gold mines and Anunnaki, Tellinger claims
- 24:49that 75,000 ancient mines and Anunnaki prisons
- 24:55rest primarily on royal sources and personal interpretations
- 25:00of Sumerian texts.
- 25:02Sumerologist notes that Zacharias Sitchin's translation, which Schellinger
- 25:07cites, are widely rejected by academic Sumerologists.
- 25:17Sitchin's reading cuneiform does not follow recognized linguistic
- 25:23methods.
- 25:24Abzu in Sumerian mythology means the underworld or
- 25:28the freshwater ocean beneath the earth, not South
- 25:31Africa.
- 25:33And regarding the sound and cymantics, the sound
- 25:38creates visible patterns in sand.
- 25:40Cymantics is a well- documented physical phenomenon.
- 25:44But Tellinger's leap from where to the stone
- 25:49circles being deliberate sound machines lacks scientific evidence.
- 25:55He claims that sounds travels faster than light
- 25:58based on a misunderstanding of the 2005 Middle
- 26:03Tennessee experiment.
- 26:04The experiment concerned phase velocity in a specific
- 26:13medium, not breaking the speed of light barrier
- 26:16in vacuum, which is a fundamental physical constant.
- 26:20Sound cannot, under any circumstances, exceed the speed
- 26:24of light in a vacuum.
- 26:27Regarding the giant fossils, Schellinger's mud fossils are
- 26:32interpreted by geologists as natural concreations.
- 26:38Mineral participates can assume organic shapes through natural
- 26:45processes.
- 26:46This phenomenon is well known and is called
- 26:49peridolia, where the brain sees tendencies.
- 26:54The brain has a tendency to recognize simple
- 26:58patterns in a random formation.
- 27:01The large footprint in granite at Mount Pulanga
- 27:05is, according to geologists, an example of different
- 27:09erosions, where softer materials has eroded faster than
- 27:12the surrounding material.
- 27:15That vertebrate fossil transmutes into Humpfield is geological
- 27:23nonsense.
- 27:24Fossilizations preserve the form but does not change
- 27:27the mineralogy into a completely different rock type.
- 27:36Regarding the tar stones and cones, Schellinger's tar
- 27:39stones are known archaeological artifacts that are called
- 27:48board stones or digging stick weights.
- 27:50They are found throughout Africa and is associated
- 27:53with the sand people, which uses them as
- 27:57a weight on digging sticks.
- 28:01Tellinger's claims that they were a kind of
- 28:03energy generator is not supported by any independent
- 28:07measurement.
- 28:09The story of the TSA security system that
- 28:11were crashed is anecdotal and is not documented.
- 28:16Regarding the gold, historians agree that gold was
- 28:21transported out of Pretoria during the war, but
- 28:24Tellinger's figures of thousands of tons lacks historical
- 28:28basis.
- 28:30The total gold reserve of the Transvaal Republic
- 28:32were documented and far smaller.
- 28:36The trained disappearance is the most possibly explained
- 28:41by the gold being distributed and hidden into
- 28:44smaller portions, which is a common practice during
- 28:48wartime.
- 28:49So the summary is that Schellinger is correct
- 28:53that Southern Africa contains a rich archaeology landscape
- 28:57that deserves more attention.
- 29:00The scientific consensus rejects his interpretation of a
- 29:05speculative and lacking methodical foundation.
- 29:10His theory falls in the category of alternative
- 29:14archaeology or some say pseudo-archaeology, a field
- 29:18that often appeals to people fascinating with the
- 29:22unknown, but does not meet the scientific standard
- 29:25for evidence, possibility, and peer review.
- 29:29Nevertheless, Schellinger, with his claim and his charisma
- 29:33and the ability to tell a compelling story,
- 29:36has built a significant following and has brought
- 29:40focus to a fascinating cultural landscape that many
- 29:45would otherwise not have heard of.
- 29:49So if I sum this up...
- 30:56So, if I sum this up, I'm
- 30:41not a scientist, I work with economics.
- 30:42And I'll tell you one thing, that is
- 30:43that nobody builds a million stone circles without
- 30:42a purpose, and especially not at the time
- 30:45of the alleged construction.
- 30:49If it really is true that it's only
- 30:52300 to 500 years old, then there should
- 30:55be remains of, should we say, the construction
- 30:59record.
- 31:00Somebody must know something.
- 31:01One, second, that is a very large construction
- 31:05from a small population that, according to my
- 31:10understanding, was not there at the time.
- 31:11So, bottom line here is, I need an
- 31:16explanation on why so many has been built.
- 31:20It's industrial, and nobody built industrial without a
- 31:24purpose.
- 31:25And I think that challenges us up to
- 31:27something here, because would you build a stone
- 31:31circle for enclosure of cattle?
- 31:32Of course not.
- 31:33You will use something else.
- 31:35I mean, the local materials.
- 31:37You will find, I don't know, some kind
- 31:39of sticky tree or something like that, planted
- 31:43in a circle, and then during the years
- 31:47you will have a perfect enclosure that lions
- 31:50and so on could not pass.
- 31:52Things like that you will do, you will
- 31:54not spend the amount of work hours required
- 31:58for this construction.
- 32:00That is my humble opinion.
- 32:01Thank you.
- 32:02Until then, thank you for listening.