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Joe Rogan Experience _2524 - Rupert Low · Luke's English Podcast

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Speaker 1: Robin Podcast check it out. But Joe Logan Experience Trained
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Speaker 1: by Day, Joe.
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Speaker 2: Roggy Podcast by night, all day.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for being really appreciate it.
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Speaker 2: It's my pleasure.
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Speaker 1: And thank you to Brett Weinstein, Jordan Peterson and Elon
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Speaker 1: Musk for helping connect us.
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Speaker 2: Well, we are going to see you on on Sunday.
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Speaker 2: So he's been an incredible support for us. Yeah. So
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Speaker 2: I don't know how you want to play the I'm
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Speaker 2: totally in your hands. I'll follow your lead. But I
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Speaker 2: mean he's been helping us because Britain's in bad shape.
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Speaker 1: And yeah, and that's why you're here. And this is
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Speaker 1: what we're talking about.
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Speaker 2: Talking with the rape gang. We've we've done this is
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Speaker 2: a we've crowdfunded this, okay, which I'm very happy to
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Speaker 2: talk to you about.
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Speaker 1: Which just this title of that rape gang report. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: the idea that there's rape there's actual rape gangs in
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Speaker 1: the UK in twenty twenty six, and it's is it
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Speaker 1: being ignored? Is it being down like, how is it
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Speaker 1: being received by the media and by the politicians over there.
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Speaker 2: Well, the history of it is that basically, as you
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Speaker 2: probably know, Britain after the war decided they were going
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Speaker 2: to play a part in Europe, a bigger part in Europe.
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Speaker 2: Are elite, did the British elite, And to do that
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Speaker 2: they had to basically diminish the power of the nation
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Speaker 2: state and they had to head towards this European superstate,
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Speaker 2: which is the EU. The genesis which was obviously why.
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Speaker 1: Did they have to diminish the power of the nation
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Speaker 1: to do.
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Speaker 2: That, because I think Britain was a proud nation state
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Speaker 2: with with the American help, we'd won the war and
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Speaker 2: we hadn't been invaded or conquered, which most of Europe
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Speaker 2: had been. So you'd had mass dislocation in Europe. Huge
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Speaker 2: numbers of people had been dislocated and pushed all over Europe.
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Speaker 2: And I think the socialists. I was in the European Parliament,
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Speaker 2: so I spent a brief time as an MEP, a
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Speaker 2: member of the European Parliament. When we finally achieved bread,
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Speaker 2: well a kind of brexit, we can talk about that,
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Speaker 2: but it wasn't a proper Brexit. So I think the
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Speaker 2: genesis of the rape gangs. Going back to this was
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Speaker 2: the fact that multi culturalism was the order of the day.
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Speaker 2: They wanted open borders, they wanted a multicultural society. They
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Speaker 2: basically felt the nation state had been the cause of
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Speaker 2: world wars, effectively starting with Napoleon. Then obviously we had
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Speaker 2: the Kaiser, then we had Hitler, and I think they
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Speaker 2: saw it that way, the Monaes, the Spinellas and the
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Speaker 2: people who constructed the European Union. So to the rape
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Speaker 2: Gang report, which was your question, ultimately that the genesis
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Speaker 2: of that is this multicultural invasion almost of Europe.
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Speaker 1: Can I positive for a second, So what you think
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Speaker 1: is that the multicultural invasion, the way it was set up,
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Speaker 1: was on purpose, and it was on purpose to sort
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Speaker 1: of diminish the idea of nationalism.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I think that, well, i'm.
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Speaker 1: And so this was like a long plan. So this
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Speaker 1: was something that they must have had to sit down
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Speaker 1: and like who would be involved in this sort of
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Speaker 1: a discussion where you would be willing to diminish patriotism,
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Speaker 1: diminish this idea that Britain by itself as exceptional and
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Speaker 1: the people are exceptional.
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Speaker 2: It was a long, deceitful plan. So I always implemented it.
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Speaker 2: The European elites in league with our elite, who effectively,
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Speaker 2: if you remember in nineteen seventy five we had what
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Speaker 2: was we joined what was called the European Economic Community.
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Speaker 2: It wasn't effectively anything other than an economic union, but
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Speaker 2: that very quickly changed and effectively. They tried to politically
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Speaker 2: integrate Europe. That failed, and then in ninety seven they
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Speaker 2: tried to force it through with the introduction of the euros.
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Speaker 2: Having failed politically, they tried to do it financially. That
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Speaker 2: was my first foray in to standing as a member
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Speaker 2: of Parliament to fight to save the British pound, because
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Speaker 2: once you lose your currency, effectively you lose your sovereignty
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Speaker 2: and a national identity, and our gold reserves were going
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Speaker 2: to be shipped out to Germany, to Frankfurt and we
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Speaker 2: would have become a vassal state part of the European Union.
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Speaker 2: It would have been irreversible. But in the event we
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Speaker 2: thanks to Sir James Goldsmith, we secured enough votes we
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Speaker 2: forced the Establishment to promise a referendum before they surrendered
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Speaker 2: to the Euro and we ended up saving the pound,
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Speaker 2: which in the end resulted in the referendum in twenty
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Speaker 2: sixteen where the British people voted to take back their sovereignty,
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Speaker 2: which ultimately I think the establishment always knew that the core,
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Speaker 2: the body of Britain or body of England in particular,
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Speaker 2: wanted its own accountable parliament in Westminster. It didn't want
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Speaker 2: to be part of an unaccountable European socialist protection is superstate.
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Speaker 1: So the quote unquote elites in Britain and the elites
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Speaker 1: the United States, it's coordinated with both of them, So.
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Speaker 2: I think less so in America. Joe. I can't speak
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Speaker 2: for America, although when you look at what the Democrats
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Speaker 2: did with USAID and all the stuff that was going
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Speaker 2: on under Joe Biden, you have to wonder whether they
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Speaker 2: began with the World Economic Forum to play a part
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Speaker 2: in this. But I think the post war plan for
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Speaker 2: Europe was founded on as socialist principle, whereas I think
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Speaker 2: America has always been a very sound politically based structure,
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Speaker 2: based on obviously, you know, the founding fathers and your constitution,
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Speaker 2: which I always think returns power to the individual and
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Speaker 2: has always understood that the dangers are status dangers, not
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Speaker 2: individual dangers. So I'm very much in the camp I
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Speaker 2: like the individual and a minimal state, and I think
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Speaker 2: that's much more in your DNA than it is in
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Speaker 2: the European DNA, which tends to be more statist.
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Speaker 1: Right, So they did this on perse and they brought
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Speaker 1: in people from what country specifically.
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Speaker 2: Well, initially you got in Britain, You've got people from Africa.
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Speaker 2: You've got the wind Rush generation, so you've got a
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Speaker 2: lot of Africans came ostensibly to fill jobs that they
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Speaker 2: always say the British people don't want to do. And
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Speaker 2: it gathered momentum. It was relatively slow to start with,
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Speaker 2: so you had an influx of people coming to the UK.
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Speaker 2: You had open borders in Europe, so one of the
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Speaker 2: absolute embedded rules they have is this freedom of movement concept,
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Speaker 2: so they don't have effectively national borders. But we still
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Speaker 2: obviously had the Channel, but we embraced this and we
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Speaker 2: started this immigration. What happened is it gradually happened. And
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Speaker 2: I think these rape gangs have been going on, or
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Speaker 2: we know they have for thirty forty probably fifty years
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Speaker 2: to a lesser extent, But when Tony Blair got in
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Speaker 2: and he undermined a lot of constitutional, sort of historical law,
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Speaker 2: you got an acceleration of immigration from other parts of
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Speaker 2: the world, not not just from Europe but also from
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Speaker 2: other countries South Asian countries in particular, who came to
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Speaker 2: the UK and the genesis of the rape gangs really is,
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Speaker 2: I think the cultural oil and water mix of these
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Speaker 2: people coming from what I call clannish societies in South
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Speaker 2: Asia and coming to very high trust societies such as
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Speaker 2: the one we had and the one you have here,
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Speaker 2: which have taken thousands of years to develop. So there
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Speaker 2: high trust societies where and you know, Lequan, you based
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Speaker 2: Singapore on post war Britain, where you could you had
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Speaker 2: you had honesty boxes for newspapers in London, and you
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Speaker 2: had a country that was completely at peace with itself.
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Speaker 2: So it won the war, it respected peace, it respected freedom,
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Speaker 2: and people were building, rebuilding their lives having fought a
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Speaker 2: Second World War to free Europe from sort of in
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Speaker 2: this case Germany. Previously we'd done it at Waterloo when
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Speaker 2: we relieved Europe of the French with Napoleon. So it
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Speaker 2: really accelerated after ninety seven when a lot of the
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Speaker 2: legislation that Tony Blair and his cohorts passed, such as
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Speaker 2: the Human Rights Act which embeds within it the ECHR.
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Speaker 2: He created the Supreme Court. They passed laws like the
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Speaker 2: Equalities Act and their raft of other legal acts they
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Speaker 2: passed which effectively empowered a multicultural society which in some
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Speaker 2: ways I think damaged the interests of the British people.
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Speaker 1: And you think this is on purpose, And this is
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Speaker 1: my point is what is the benefit for them to
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Speaker 1: be joined up with the rest of Europe? Is it
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Speaker 1: just purely financial? Is it a power based strategy where
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Speaker 1: if you can diminish the quality of life for people
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Speaker 1: and institute more laws and put more restrictions on them,
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Speaker 1: you can control them easier and it's less push back
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Speaker 1: for the politicians, push back for the people that are
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Speaker 1: in charge.
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Speaker 2: Basically, yes, I think it's the age old battle between
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Speaker 2: individualism and collectivism. So I think the EU is a
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Speaker 2: collectivist construct, whereas I think Britain as it was under
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Speaker 2: our constitution, our Bill of Rights, which is you probably
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Speaker 2: know our Bill of Rights in at sixteen eighty nine.
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Speaker 2: A lot of that was lifted to by your founding
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Speaker 2: fathers who embedded it within the US constitution. So and
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Speaker 2: that embeds freedom of speech, it embeds the individual, embeds
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Speaker 2: all of the rights that I think make the Anglo
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Speaker 2: Saxon world great.
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Speaker 1: So how did it deteriorate to the point where they're
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Speaker 1: arresting twelve thousand people a year for social media.
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Speaker 2: Posts show Its shocking and this is why I have
10:03
Speaker 2: got involved in politics. I've been involved in politics since
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Speaker 2: I fought the Master of Treaty and then stood. As
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Speaker 2: I said in ninety seven, I did a lot for business,
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Speaker 2: for Sterling, a lot for vote Leave. Then I stood
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Speaker 2: for the Brexit Party and I was elected there. So
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Speaker 2: I've been fighting this march towards an unaccountable state which
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Speaker 2: effectively rewards collectivism and punishes individualism to the extent that
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Speaker 2: now I find myself at the age of sixty eight,
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Speaker 2: as an MP running a party called Restore Britain to
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Speaker 2: try and reverse this tide, to re empower the individual,
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Speaker 2: to return to our original constitution, and to protect the
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Speaker 2: interests above all else of the British people to whom
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Speaker 2: I think government should be accountable.
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Speaker 1: Do they still have that kind of unchecked immigration? Is
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Speaker 1: it currently ongoing?
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Speaker 2: We still have illegal migrants arriving by vote They can't
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Speaker 2: be under the current laws and treaties that we're part of.
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Speaker 2: That are then not being deported the judges, thanks to
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Speaker 2: the creation of the Supreme Court, they are now a
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Speaker 2: quango awoke quango. I think a lot of our judiciary
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Speaker 2: is corrupt. So the answer question is, we still have
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Speaker 2: illegal migration, and we have people living in Britain illegally.
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Speaker 2: We have a lot of foreign prisons in our prisons,
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Speaker 2: and we have people who've come in under various waves
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Speaker 2: of immigration, one of which the biggest of which was
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Speaker 2: probably under Boris Johnson, who was actually a Conservative prime minister,
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Speaker 2: who allowed thousands, hundreds of thousands of people to come
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Speaker 2: into Britain. And basically they are now a burden to
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Speaker 2: the British taxpayer. So the answer question is they're arriving
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Speaker 2: illegally still, they're living here illegally or living in Britain illegally. Still,
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Speaker 2: we've got foreign criminals in our prisons, and we've got
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Speaker 2: we've still got the legacy of this huge amount of
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Speaker 2: immigration which took place.
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Speaker 1: And are a lot chars percentage of these people receiving
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Speaker 1: welfare from yes, the British government, Yes, what percentage?
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Speaker 2: Well, most of the people who arrive they're all supported.
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Speaker 2: I mean they're put in hotels. As soon as you
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Speaker 2: get there. In parliament, I see the contracts. Thanks to
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Speaker 2: my parliamentary questions I'm allowed to ask questions and scrutinize
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Speaker 2: the contracts. For instance, the Bibi Stockholm was it was
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Speaker 2: a boat which costs the British taxpayer one and a
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Speaker 2: half billion pounds. It's actually now lying redundant and not
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Speaker 2: being used. But I've seen the contracts for these illegal migrants,
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Speaker 2: in terms of the laundry services they get, in terms
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Speaker 2: of the taxi services they get, in terms of the
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Speaker 2: food they require. I mean literally, it is like it's
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Speaker 2: like staying in a very comfortable hotel, and we've now
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Speaker 2: got these people being settled all across our country. How
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Speaker 2: many in hotels? Well, I don't think the government knows, Joe,
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Speaker 2: to answer your question, I don't think they know how
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Speaker 2: many people are living in Britain illegally.
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Speaker 1: Was the similar situation that America had over the last
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Speaker 1: four years, where on the low number they think it
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Speaker 1: was ten million people came in, which is insane. It's
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Speaker 1: an insane amount of people to come in in four years.
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Speaker 2: We think there's enough work to do initially to detain
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Speaker 2: and deport people who are arriving illegally. I mean, to
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Speaker 2: my mind, illegal means illegal. It's fairly straightforward to the
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Speaker 2: people who are arriving illegally, people living here illegally, the
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Speaker 2: foreign criminals. There's plenty of work to do to remove
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Speaker 2: them from Britain. And then I think we need to
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Speaker 2: turn our attention and that's in our mass deportation document.
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Speaker 2: I've given you a copy of that which effectively sets
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Speaker 2: out the constitutional reasons why we have a problem, how
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Speaker 2: we correct those constitutional issues, and how we then practically
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Speaker 2: detain and deport the people who aren't supposed to be here.
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Speaker 2: And once we've done that, well, then turn our attention
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Speaker 2: to people who are living in Britain to your point,
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Speaker 2: who are on welfare, who are going to cost the
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Speaker 2: taxpayer of fortune for the rest of their lives, probably,
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Speaker 2: who aren't working, who are culturally different to us, who
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Speaker 2: have a different view of their religion to the Christian religion,
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Speaker 2: and are increasingly living in small groups of people who
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Speaker 2: haven't integrated, who are living under Sharia law, and who
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Speaker 2: have their own courts, and who have their own court,
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Speaker 2: they have their own called Sharier courts. Yes, parallel a
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Speaker 2: parallel legal system.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so it's unrecognized by the British government. Parallel legal
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Speaker 1: system that exists inside of England, it's tolerated, tolerated, So
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Speaker 1: it's they're aware of it, yes, and they're aware of
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Speaker 1: the punishments that this court dishes out.
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Speaker 2: It's rather like they're policing their own people under their own.
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Speaker 1: Laws, and they're just allowing that that.
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Speaker 2: They're allowing that you have WHOA Now, now, I believe
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Speaker 2: I don't know about you, but I believe if you
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Speaker 2: come to our country, you should live under our laws.
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Speaker 1: Yes. Well, yeah, I mean the idea of well United
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Speaker 1: States in particular is a melting part. And you know,
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Speaker 1: people will come from all over the place and it's
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Speaker 1: one of the cool things that it's all these different cultures.
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Speaker 1: But there's certain cultures that if you allow them to
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Speaker 1: come into your community and then they institute the laws
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Speaker 1: of the country where they came from, you're going to
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Speaker 1: have a real problem. Like they don't live the way
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Speaker 1: you live. They don't have the same respect for women
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Speaker 1: that you have, they don't treat them the same way.
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Speaker 1: They don't allow dogs, like there's a lot of like
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Speaker 1: stuff that a lot of people might not even be
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Speaker 1: aware that come with that problem. It's like the idea
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Speaker 1: is supposed to be that Western society is inclusive and
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Speaker 1: progressive because we're intelligent and educated and we care. But
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Speaker 1: you can care so much that you let in criminals,
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Speaker 1: and then you give those criminals all your money, and
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Speaker 1: then the criminals can take over your country, slowly but surely.
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Speaker 1: And this is the no one thinks that's a possible thing.
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Speaker 1: People look at the coliseum, you look at ancient Greece,
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Speaker 1: and they think, we, I wonder what happened to those guys.
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Speaker 1: What do you think happened? Probably the same shit that's
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Speaker 1: happening right now to England, the same shit that could
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Speaker 1: have happened to America. It's civilizations fall apart for various reasons.
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Speaker 1: And one great way to get them to fall apart
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Speaker 1: is to bring in a bunch of people and they
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Speaker 1: don't have to follow your laws, and they bring the
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Speaker 1: laws of you know, wherever they're from, whatever fundamentalist religion
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Speaker 1: country they're from, where they have a bunch of crazy
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Speaker 1: laws that are kind of archaic.
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Speaker 2: Well, this is Sharia, lord, is Lamic laws. You probably know.
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Speaker 2: I mean, again, to your point, I think the best
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Speaker 2: example I can give people of what happens if you
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Speaker 2: do that is when Lebanon got its got its independence,
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Speaker 2: in nineteen forty eight. They were Christian country and they
16:51
Speaker 2: were very confident country that they were. You know, they
16:54
Speaker 2: had the best universities, They had a very open society.
16:57
Speaker 2: I never went to Beirute. I don't know if you
16:59
Speaker 2: went to Beyrout, but by route in the sixties was
17:01
Speaker 2: meant to be the best place on earth to be
17:03
Speaker 2: a great wine freedom, very very enlightened. It was a
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Speaker 2: great lots of people were there. The minute that the
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Speaker 2: Muslim population went over about fifteen percent, you started to
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Speaker 2: get a problem with a civil war. You've got the
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Speaker 2: Druz and Marinite Christians in a civil war with the Muslims,
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Speaker 2: and now Lebanon's is a Muslim country and Hesbela, backed
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Speaker 2: by Iran, is effectively running the show. So to your point,
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Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more. In the Rape Gang Report, which
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Speaker 2: is which we've written, was crowdfunded by twenty thousand concerned
17:43
Speaker 2: english people who we raised, not a huge amount of money.
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Speaker 2: We've raised about six hundred thousand pounds and varying quantities
17:51
Speaker 2: people gave. And we did it because the government will
17:56
Speaker 2: not have a statuary inquiry. So our government and particularly
17:59
Speaker 2: the Labor Party, have been presiding over this because it
18:03
Speaker 2: goes to the Muslim bloc vote. So we have in
18:07
Speaker 2: the UK a system of postal voting, and in a
18:11
Speaker 2: lot of the inner cities and the places where these
18:13
Speaker 2: Islamic populations live, they are or have historically voted labor.
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Speaker 2: That's beginning to change. They're beginning to vote for Muslim
18:21
Speaker 2: independence now. And I sit with some of them at
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Speaker 2: the back of Parliament. So effectively, this inquiry we did.
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Speaker 2: We set out with a completely unbiased view of what
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Speaker 2: we would find, and we did it because we were
18:39
Speaker 2: pushing the government to have a statutory inquiry. And a
18:44
Speaker 2: lot of the reason I got involved in it was
18:46
Speaker 2: I think it was Elon Musku triggered he talked about
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Speaker 2: it because a lot of people in the UK, I
18:52
Speaker 2: don't think know the extent to which this has been
18:55
Speaker 2: happening and the length of time it's been happening.
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Speaker 1: What is that? A failure of your media? Is a
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Speaker 1: failure of the politicians? Like why don't people know about them?
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Speaker 2: What's a total favorite failure of the media, because the
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Speaker 2: media are supposed to be an independent body that holds
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Speaker 2: to account failures of the state. And it's basically because
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Speaker 2: this block vote through the postal voting system, which needs
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Speaker 2: to be changed, is effectively or has been, keeping the
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Speaker 2: Labor Party in power, so they've put power ahead of principle.
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Speaker 2: And in the report we cover this, we've covered the
20:31
Speaker 2: reasons why it's so serious and to your point, we
20:34
Speaker 2: even cover, as you quite rightly say, the fact that
20:37
Speaker 2: dogs are not liked by the Islamic faith larger because
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Speaker 2: Muhammad like cats, he didn't like dogs. And what we
20:46
Speaker 2: wanted to do was interview victims, which we did. We
20:50
Speaker 2: did it properly, which took us over a year. We
20:52
Speaker 2: had a rape gang victim, Sammy Woodhouse, who led it.
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Speaker 2: She's got a child by her rapist, and we had
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Speaker 2: a team of people and we literally produced the witness
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Speaker 2: bundles and we listened to the witnesses and then we
21:08
Speaker 2: had a two week hearing in London where people gave evidence,
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Speaker 2: and we had a proper barrister who effectively presided over
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Speaker 2: it and then helped us write the report. It's effectively,
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Speaker 2: Graham Smith that the barrister did a fantastic job. And
21:25
Speaker 2: we didn't start out with any preconceived ideas. It started
21:28
Speaker 2: because we read some court transcripts of some of the
21:30
Speaker 2: people who've been found guilty of this, which the government,
21:33
Speaker 2: by the way, has tried to keep quiet. Some of
21:37
Speaker 2: the historical court transcripts disappear, so we've been calling for
21:44
Speaker 2: these transcripts to be kept. Now we've actually tried to
21:47
Speaker 2: make a noise about that. And the more we read this,
21:52
Speaker 2: and the more we carried on with the rape gang inquiry,
21:56
Speaker 2: the more it became clear to us that obviously there's
21:59
Speaker 2: a link between this power and the abuse and and
22:06
Speaker 2: grooming and if you like, damage that was done to
22:10
Speaker 2: white working class English girls, and it does go and
22:13
Speaker 2: in the report we've looked at the reasons why. To
22:16
Speaker 2: your point, there is a cultural difference of opinion between
22:21
Speaker 2: an open, high trust Christian view of women particularly and
22:27
Speaker 2: the Islamic view of women, which is all in the report. So,
22:29
Speaker 2: for instance, the as you probably know, if a woman
22:34
Speaker 2: accuses somebody of rape, and a lot of these Muslims
22:37
Speaker 2: come from pakistanjo that they're predominantly Pakistan, and they're predominantly
22:43
Speaker 2: from one part of Pakistan called Merpor, and there are
22:46
Speaker 2: some from Bangladesh, there are some from Somalia, there are
22:49
Speaker 2: some from Eritrea that there are other Muslim countries that
22:54
Speaker 2: perpetrate some of this, and of course there are white
22:57
Speaker 2: people who perpetrate rape as well, but nothing on the
23:00
Speaker 2: scale of this. This is quite horrific and our reporter
23:05
Speaker 2: has effectively uncovered this. I think we've played a part
23:09
Speaker 2: with this report in the government saying that they're going
23:12
Speaker 2: to have now a statutory inquiry because we didn't have
23:15
Speaker 2: any statutory powers to be able to force people to
23:18
Speaker 2: appear at our hearing, and they all appeared voluntarily. The
23:21
Speaker 2: government can actually force people legally to appear. They can
23:23
Speaker 2: actually make it a legal requirement that people attend. We
23:28
Speaker 2: couldn't do that. But there had been reports in the past.
23:34
Speaker 2: There was the j Report in twenty fourteen, and there's
23:38
Speaker 2: been the Casey Report, all of which confirmed that this
23:42
Speaker 2: was happening, and the state still continued to try and
23:46
Speaker 2: pretend it was just happening in a small number of
23:49
Speaker 2: siloed areas where you obviously had a high Islamic population.
23:54
Speaker 2: The state has equally failed to collect data on the
23:59
Speaker 2: crimes that are perpetry, so the ethnicity of the people
24:02
Speaker 2: who are perpetrating the crimes, and from there you can
24:04
Speaker 2: extrapolate once you've got the data as to whether or
24:07
Speaker 2: not you've got an extraordinary problem in one particular section
24:11
Speaker 2: of society. And again, using my parliamentary questions, I've been
24:15
Speaker 2: forcing as much disclosure as I can get, and this
24:18
Speaker 2: is how we've discovered that a lot of the data
24:21
Speaker 2: that should be being collected by the police, particularly by
24:24
Speaker 2: in the National Health Service, by social services. A lot
24:27
Speaker 2: of the data has not been properly collected, possibly because
24:31
Speaker 2: the state does I think know that this is happening,
24:35
Speaker 2: but they don't want to admit that their multicultural experiment,
24:39
Speaker 2: which as you probably know, famously Enoch Powell warned would
24:43
Speaker 2: fail with his speech the Rivers of Blood, speech for
24:47
Speaker 2: which he was heavily criticized. So I think they do know,
24:51
Speaker 2: but they don't want to admit it. They don't want
24:53
Speaker 2: to be called racist. They don't want to and this
24:57
Speaker 2: has permeated the whole of British society since people are
25:00
Speaker 2: frightened to be accused of effectively being biased and white,
25:07
Speaker 2: and we're talked about things you probably I don't know
25:09
Speaker 2: when you have it here, unconscious bias and all of
25:12
Speaker 2: the other sort of what I can wort were woke
25:14
Speaker 2: DEI driven rubbish, which which has permeated Britain in the
25:20
Speaker 2: same way. I think it may have originally come from
25:22
Speaker 2: you guys, but it's it's it's certainly had a huge
25:26
Speaker 2: effect on us.
25:27
Speaker 1: I think it had a great grip on us for
25:29
Speaker 1: a few years, and it's lessened.
25:32
Speaker 2: Its hold well thanks to the Donald.
25:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that helped a lot. And I think a
25:36
Speaker 1: big part of it was Elon buying Twitter. Yeah, where
25:39
Speaker 1: you got legitimate free speech, and which is again back
25:42
Speaker 1: to this, twelve thousand people getting arrested each year for
25:45
Speaker 1: social media posts recently, that is, how is that tolerated?
25:50
Speaker 1: I just don't understand how people aren't. I was about
25:53
Speaker 1: to say, up in arms, but that's also part of
25:55
Speaker 1: the problem is that no one's armed over there.
25:58
Speaker 2: We are. Well, I have actually got some guns, Jesse,
26:01
Speaker 2: because I have a farm, So when you come to
26:03
Speaker 2: the UK, I hope you'll come and shoot some pheasants
26:05
Speaker 2: with me. But if you don't have a farm, well,
26:09
Speaker 2: if you don't have a farm, you'll find it very
26:11
Speaker 2: difficult to get a gun of any kind, and even
26:14
Speaker 2: if you have a farm. So Reform tried to politically
26:17
Speaker 2: assassinate me in twenty five early twenty five and made
26:23
Speaker 2: false accusations about me threatening to hit one of the
26:27
Speaker 2: zero us off in a meeting, and somebody was saying
26:29
Speaker 2: I went around Parliament saying I was a very good
26:31
Speaker 2: shot and I was going to shoot zero use. If
26:33
Speaker 2: I mean is if you believe that I've got a
26:35
Speaker 2: completely clean record. I employ lots of people, I have
26:37
Speaker 2: lots of businesses, and I've never had an issue. But listen,
26:40
Speaker 2: four armed police turned up, took all my guns away.
26:43
Speaker 2: I mean, and I'm a member of parliament. I said
26:46
Speaker 2: to them, guys, you could have just called me up
26:47
Speaker 2: and we could have talked about it. But no, it
26:49
Speaker 2: turned up just from an accusation. Nine thirty at night,
26:54
Speaker 2: left at quarter to twelve. We got them on the cameras,
26:58
Speaker 2: took all my guns, all my amma, and it took
27:00
Speaker 2: me five or six months to get them all back.
27:04
Speaker 2: But look, so they don't want the public to have guns,
27:10
Speaker 2: and they are doing their very best to damage the
27:14
Speaker 2: shooters who perfectly legitimately liked to go and shoot clay pigeons,
27:19
Speaker 2: who liked to go and shoot game, who liked to
27:22
Speaker 2: go and hunt. Effectively, they are trying to make that
27:26
Speaker 2: very difficult through the licensing laws for guns. As you
27:30
Speaker 2: probably know, they banned handguns the nineties, right in the
27:33
Speaker 2: late nineties because there was a murder up in Dunblane,
27:37
Speaker 2: one murder, one murder, so everybody. My father used to
27:40
Speaker 2: shoot pistols for Oxford University and he's dead now, bless him,
27:44
Speaker 2: but he had all his pistols were taken away, the gun,
27:47
Speaker 2: the pistols he used to shoot with at Oxford University.
27:50
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean we now have a society which
27:54
Speaker 2: needs radical change and we need to release the individual.
27:59
Speaker 2: And to your point on social media posts, there was
28:01
Speaker 2: a lovely lady, Lucy Conley who was locked up for
28:05
Speaker 2: something for thirty two months for just a very emotional
28:11
Speaker 2: social media post which she deleted after four hours about
28:15
Speaker 2: the Southport killings where this chap Axel Rudik Habana went
28:20
Speaker 2: and knifed three young girls and killed them, despite the
28:25
Speaker 2: fact that the British state through prevent was aware of this.
28:28
Speaker 2: And we've had a similar case recently with Henry Novak,
28:31
Speaker 2: where again it was actually I think on this occasion,
28:35
Speaker 2: a seekh stabbed him and the police despite the fact
28:40
Speaker 2: when they arrived at the scene he told them he'd
28:42
Speaker 2: been stabbed. The police didn't believe him and they tried
28:46
Speaker 2: to handcuff him and as a result of that, it's
28:50
Speaker 2: arguable that they opened up the wound, the stab wound,
28:53
Speaker 2: and he drowned in his own blood. Meanwhile, his murderer
28:57
Speaker 2: was never handcuffed. This is where the British state has
29:01
Speaker 2: gone completely wrong. So instead of one law for everybody
29:06
Speaker 2: and one policing for everybody, this sort of view that
29:11
Speaker 2: the white population is racist, which I don't personally believe
29:15
Speaker 2: them to be. I think Britain is a very torerant country.
29:19
Speaker 1: Do you think that this perspective that society is sort
29:24
Speaker 1: of adopted in the UK about white people being bad?
29:27
Speaker 1: Do you think this was there was architecture to it,
29:33
Speaker 1: this was by design that this was done, or is
29:35
Speaker 1: this just a natural response to people being called racist
29:40
Speaker 1: because there was the cour course, in the past, there
29:42
Speaker 1: was more racism than there is today and people always
29:45
Speaker 1: want to point to that racism as you know, evidence
29:49
Speaker 1: of colonialism, evidence of whatever it is that happened in
29:52
Speaker 1: days past. But why in England do you think that
29:57
Speaker 1: narrative took hold so well?
29:59
Speaker 2: Because I think, Joe, to your point that this post
30:02
Speaker 2: war plan for multiculturalism, I think they realized that they was.
30:07
Speaker 1: By design they've got a problem. So part of it
30:09
Speaker 1: was probably infiltrating the universities and promoting these kind of ideas.
30:14
Speaker 2: It's almost as if with the World Economic Forum, there's
30:18
Speaker 2: this view that the Anglo Saxon nations have commanded and
30:24
Speaker 2: dominated too much of the world's resources, and there's almost
30:27
Speaker 2: like this misguided, altruistic view that we should become more
30:33
Speaker 2: concerned with global welfare rather than the welfare of our
30:35
Speaker 2: own citizens, which I totally disagree with.
30:39
Speaker 1: Well, there's also the you will own nothing and you
30:41
Speaker 1: will be happy.
30:42
Speaker 2: This is this is your Claus Schwab, which.
30:45
Speaker 1: Is someone would even say that out loud. I know,
30:49
Speaker 1: you own nothing and you will be happy? Like is
30:52
Speaker 1: this a part of an or World book? Because this
30:55
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like a real person would say something like that,
30:57
Speaker 1: because who the fuck is going to listen to that
31:00
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense.
31:01
Speaker 2: But George or has been rather accurate in dead On.
31:04
Speaker 1: He was actually pretty optimistic. Like his viewsion, his version
31:08
Speaker 1: of the world was a little bit more palatable than
31:11
Speaker 1: what we're dealing with right now.
31:12
Speaker 2: Interesting man Old Etonian fought in the Spanish Civil War.
31:16
Speaker 2: I mean, he was a very quirky Englishman who clearly
31:22
Speaker 2: had a hugely prescient foresight, and I think probably like
31:25
Speaker 2: certainly like me, he had a healthy disrespect for what
31:30
Speaker 2: I call collectivist statism, and he was very much an
31:34
Speaker 2: individual and a believer in the individual.
31:38
Speaker 1: It's really interesting because when I first read that book
31:41
Speaker 1: was in high school, and I kept thinking, like, what
31:44
Speaker 1: a crazy this had never happened, This is not even possible,
31:47
Speaker 1: But what a crazy world this guy's created in his
31:49
Speaker 1: imagination and things going completely haywire. And then you realize
31:53
Speaker 1: as time goes on, Oh, that's totally possible. It's totally
31:57
Speaker 1: possible that things can get that ridiculous. I mean when
31:59
Speaker 1: you're dealing with you know, male biologically male athletes that
32:04
Speaker 1: can compete against women because they identify as a women
32:07
Speaker 1: and use women's locker rooms. All the craziness that we
32:09
Speaker 1: deal with today, the open border situation. No one's illegal
32:13
Speaker 1: on stolen land? Hey, fuck off, Like what are we
32:16
Speaker 1: what are we doing? Like, what is this?
32:18
Speaker 2: Well, it's almost as if we're if we're subverting all
32:22
Speaker 2: the things that made us great.
32:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know, there's nothing wrong with immigration, but
32:27
Speaker 1: there's it's probably a good idea to make sure someone's
32:30
Speaker 1: on a fucking murderer before you let them in. Like
32:32
Speaker 1: the idea that there should be no border at all
32:35
Speaker 1: is like if the world was perfect, that sounds wonderful.
32:39
Speaker 1: If the world was perfect, everybody paid their taxes and
32:42
Speaker 1: everybody followed the loss. Why have borders? Clearly it's not perfect,
32:47
Speaker 1: you know, go to go to Pakistan, go to Karachi,
32:51
Speaker 1: go go hang out, Go go down the street as
32:54
Speaker 1: a woman in a mini skirt and see how that
32:55
Speaker 1: works out.
32:56
Speaker 2: Go to go to someplace again. This is your quite right,
32:59
Speaker 2: This is I mean, Bakistan is I think the example
33:02
Speaker 2: example of a rogue state basically, and I think their
33:07
Speaker 2: view of as you say, women who dress in ways
33:12
Speaker 2: other than the ways of Sharia I totally covered. Yes,
33:16
Speaker 2: And again it's all in various of the Hadiz which
33:20
Speaker 2: we quote in the Arabiang report, they are considered to
33:24
Speaker 2: be meet And this is something I've never understood. How
33:28
Speaker 2: do you square this circle of this sort of clannish,
33:33
Speaker 2: backward looking culture which comes to a highly open, high
33:37
Speaker 2: trust society and then embeds itself within that society and
33:42
Speaker 2: undermines everything that we've achieved over a thousand years.
33:45
Speaker 1: Acknowledging that is somehow another racist. Acknowledging that some cultures
33:49
Speaker 1: are superior is somehow another racist. But by just understanding
33:53
Speaker 1: human rights, understanding the rights of individuals to be free,
33:58
Speaker 1: they not be subjected to other people's archaic laws. And
34:02
Speaker 1: this is Look, these a lot of cultures in this
34:05
Speaker 1: world live as people live thousands of years ago. No
34:08
Speaker 1: one in the United States wants to live as people
34:11
Speaker 1: lived thousands of years ago.
34:12
Speaker 2: No one.
34:13
Speaker 1: And this is not a racist thing, like you should
34:16
Speaker 1: be able to come over here and practice whatever religion
34:18
Speaker 1: you want. But if your religion has rules that violate
34:23
Speaker 1: the laws that we've all agree are just and fair,
34:26
Speaker 1: then that you're not integrating. And if you take over
34:30
Speaker 1: a whole town and now that town is subject to
34:33
Speaker 1: these archaic laws, we've got a problem. And if you
34:38
Speaker 1: let that problem get bigger and bigger, they take over
34:40
Speaker 1: the country. And that's an actual possibility for certain countries.
34:45
Speaker 1: And we have to recognize that civilization is not as
34:48
Speaker 1: sturdy as we like to think it is. It's kind
34:51
Speaker 1: of kind of flimsy in a lot of ways. A
34:53
Speaker 1: few bad things can happen, and things can go sideways
34:57
Speaker 1: quite quickly.
34:58
Speaker 2: Well, I think liberty is very fragile, are isn't it. Ultimately,
35:01
Speaker 2: if you don't protect liberty, you lose it. Right. It
35:04
Speaker 2: was Margaret Thatcher who was very strong on this, And
35:06
Speaker 2: you have to have laws, you have to have laws.
35:09
Speaker 2: But what you also have to have is everyone should
35:11
Speaker 2: be equal under the law. Yes, and to your point,
35:13
Speaker 2: I couldn't agree more. I mean, Britain used to be
35:15
Speaker 2: a very tolerant society. So for instance, Europe was very antisemitic.
35:19
Speaker 2: Britain was never anti Semitic. We used to welcome a
35:22
Speaker 2: lot of what Jews and Protestants from Europe who were
35:26
Speaker 2: being persecuted, particularly in France with the Protestants. So we
35:30
Speaker 2: were a very tolerant society. But the people who came
35:33
Speaker 2: integrated and they contributed, and that is the essence I
35:36
Speaker 2: think of sensible immigration. So it should be limited, targeted,
35:40
Speaker 2: and it should be only people who accept your religion
35:44
Speaker 2: and your culture.
35:45
Speaker 1: And well, what do you do though, if someone comes
35:47
Speaker 1: over here and then they they're not violent any laws,
35:51
Speaker 1: they're not violating any laws, they achieved citizenship. But then
35:55
Speaker 1: they start bringing over more and more people and then
35:58
Speaker 1: start instituting a lot. What do you do do you
36:01
Speaker 1: deport them all? Like, how do you like this idea
36:04
Speaker 1: of having all these people, recognizing how many people got
36:07
Speaker 1: in illegally, deporting them, mass deportations, deportaining, deporting criminals. It
36:12
Speaker 1: all sounds great until you talk about actually implementing it, like,
36:16
Speaker 1: how do you do that? How are you doing that?
36:18
Speaker 1: Are you going to knock on people's doors and pull
36:20
Speaker 1: them out of their homes and ship them back to
36:22
Speaker 1: where they came from? How do you do that?
36:24
Speaker 2: I think the first thing you do is you you
36:26
Speaker 2: stop them coming across. How many they shouldn't becoming anyone
36:29
Speaker 2: under international because they're traveling across safe countries, so they
36:32
Speaker 2: shouldn't be coming.
36:33
Speaker 1: What's the estimate of the amount of illegal immigration that
36:36
Speaker 1: you have in Britain?
36:37
Speaker 2: It's almost impossible to say how many people are living
36:40
Speaker 2: there illegally or living with us illegally, But in our paper,
36:43
Speaker 2: I mean we think it's sort of one point eight
36:46
Speaker 2: to two million people probably that's our estimate. But people arriving,
36:51
Speaker 2: we know how many are arriving. There's a lot arriving
36:54
Speaker 2: every day, particularly when the sea is calm. How many
36:58
Speaker 2: you arrive every day they're coming? We can I mean,
37:00
Speaker 2: you can get a thousand in a day, you can
37:02
Speaker 2: get if the seas rough, you get none, because obviously
37:06
Speaker 2: they suffer if they try and cross in little overcrowded ding.
37:10
Speaker 2: Is that they can't get across. But we're paying the
37:13
Speaker 2: French over half a billion pounds yea to try and
37:16
Speaker 2: stop it that I think is not happening. And as
37:20
Speaker 2: a result of that, you know, our border patrol picks
37:23
Speaker 2: them up, gives them bottles of water, brings them in
37:26
Speaker 2: and settles them in hotels and pays them well, pays
37:30
Speaker 2: them welfare they become and then they apply for residency
37:35
Speaker 2: and they say there are asylum seekers. I argue most
37:37
Speaker 2: of them at economic migrants. But you know, our woke
37:41
Speaker 2: culture is not protecting the interests of the British people.
37:45
Speaker 1: And it's also a massive incentive if you live in
37:48
Speaker 1: a terribly poor country and you can just get to
37:52
Speaker 1: England and then instantaneously you will get money in housing.
37:55
Speaker 1: That's right, Why would you not do that?
37:58
Speaker 2: Well, not only that, you go to the top of
37:59
Speaker 2: the world waiting lists for dental treatment, which British people
38:03
Speaker 2: don't get the NHS at the top of the way.
38:05
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, they get They get access to dental
38:08
Speaker 1: treatment that the British people don't get. Correct, correct, Why
38:11
Speaker 1: why do immigrants get access to it?
38:14
Speaker 2: This, Joe is the mystery of what are leaders. I
38:19
Speaker 2: don't know what they think they're doing, but they have
38:22
Speaker 2: this misguided view that these people are. Actually they call
38:26
Speaker 2: them asylum seekers. They say they need to be looked
38:28
Speaker 2: after and protected. They're not the economic migrants. And to
38:32
Speaker 2: your point, if they know there's welfare when they reach Britain,
38:36
Speaker 2: they'll travel across multiple safe countries to get to the welfare,
38:39
Speaker 2: the free housing and all the other stuff. So and
38:42
Speaker 2: then unless you deal with issues like the rape gangs,
38:46
Speaker 2: and you force them to adhere to UK law and
38:50
Speaker 2: respect our laws, our culture and our religion, they gradually
38:55
Speaker 2: set up their own cultures and with their own laws,
38:59
Speaker 2: as I said, And there are large tracts of the
39:02
Speaker 2: country now where we've got these Islamic settlements which effectively
39:08
Speaker 2: operate almost as a sort of parallel society. I don't
39:12
Speaker 2: know whether it's quite the same here, whether you've got
39:14
Speaker 2: the similar thing with the similies in Minnesota you.
39:17
Speaker 1: Do in Dearborn, Michigan. Dearborn Michigan just had a gigantic
39:21
Speaker 1: Islamic parade where you just see tens of thousands of
39:24
Speaker 1: people holding flags and walking on the street. And yeah,
39:29
Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy. It's crazy that. And they've also
39:32
Speaker 1: foot things. It's funny about Deerborn is all the progressives.
39:36
Speaker 1: It's very liberal place like welcome, welcome, everyone's welcome for
39:40
Speaker 1: all cultures. And as soon as they got into power,
39:43
Speaker 1: they banned the Pride flag. That was the first thing
39:46
Speaker 1: they did.
39:47
Speaker 2: Well, I'm afraid they have quite strong views on that
39:52
Speaker 2: sort of thing.
39:53
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's why. Yeah, Queers for Palestine is always hilarious.
39:56
Speaker 1: And then you see the meme Palestine for queers and
39:59
Speaker 1: throwing people off roof.
40:00
Speaker 2: It's like the champ who runs our Green Party is
40:05
Speaker 2: a gay Jew, So I mean he you know again,
40:07
Speaker 2: he's going to have a problem if these guys get
40:10
Speaker 2: anywhere near power. But that doesn't seem to put the
40:13
Speaker 2: progressives off.
40:14
Speaker 1: They still seem But this is what's crazy is that
40:17
Speaker 1: their society is complete like Islamic society is completely patriarchal.
40:23
Speaker 1: The women are absolutely second class citizens there. They have
40:27
Speaker 1: completely different laws for how the women can dress, what
40:31
Speaker 1: happens to the woman if someone has sex with if
40:34
Speaker 1: someone has first of all, if they commit adultery, they could.
40:37
Speaker 2: Be killed stone stone to death.
40:40
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's a horrible video where a father did
40:44
Speaker 1: it to his daughter. Yes, you do get these killings,
40:48
Speaker 1: honor killings or brothers. The brother will kill the daughter
40:52
Speaker 1: of the daughter, shame the family. It's like, hey, guys,
40:56
Speaker 1: how are you progressive when you're supporting this. And it's
40:59
Speaker 1: because the concept of not being racist, not being called racist,
41:03
Speaker 1: the fear of that is so strong they're willing to
41:06
Speaker 1: adopt all sorts of things that are the complete antithesis
41:09
Speaker 1: of everything they believe in.
41:11
Speaker 2: Well, in the UK, I don't know you have it here,
41:12
Speaker 2: but the Me Too movement it always it fascinates me
41:16
Speaker 2: that they never seem to say anything about these what
41:19
Speaker 2: I call Clanish tribal cultures who have a completely different.
41:23
Speaker 1: View of women.
41:24
Speaker 2: And to your point, you know, again in our report,
41:28
Speaker 2: a woman, if she accuses in Pakistan a man of rape,
41:35
Speaker 2: she has to have four male witnesses who actually have
41:40
Speaker 2: to witness and swear that they've seen her being penetrated
41:44
Speaker 2: by the rapist. And you've actually got women in prison
41:48
Speaker 2: because if she can't prove that she's been raped under
41:52
Speaker 2: those rules, then she can be sent to prison. And
41:55
Speaker 2: there are many women languishing in Pakistani prisons for that
42:00
Speaker 2: very reason. And this is the sort of extraordinary cultural
42:05
Speaker 2: oil and water which just doesn't mix you.
42:07
Speaker 1: So it's also the mental gymnastics that you have to
42:10
Speaker 1: have to accept that as a part of Britain and
42:13
Speaker 1: because you're progressive.
42:15
Speaker 2: Is really crazy.
42:16
Speaker 1: It just shows how these ideologies, these cult like ideologies,
42:21
Speaker 1: can completely defy logic, completely defy common sense, and just
42:26
Speaker 1: you have a set of rules that you're supposed to
42:29
Speaker 1: adhere to. If you deviate from those rules, you're a racist.
42:33
Speaker 1: You don't want to be a racist, right, then everyone's welcome.
42:37
Speaker 2: As you say, it's honor killings, it's tribal, it's your
42:40
Speaker 2: first loyalty is to your tribe and your family, not
42:44
Speaker 2: to your host country who's actually got their own laws.
42:49
Speaker 2: There are all sorts of hadith rulings which they can
42:55
Speaker 2: use to justify it. I mean, for instance, if they
42:59
Speaker 2: rape ay a white girl, that doesn't count in their
43:04
Speaker 2: in their view of life as adultery. So they are
43:08
Speaker 2: effectively taught that a girl who doesn't dress as they
43:12
Speaker 2: would dress is is meet to be abused. And and
43:17
Speaker 2: they have these they have these extraordinary sort of cultural views.
43:22
Speaker 2: You see that they're completely incompatible in my view, with
43:25
Speaker 2: a society like ours, where you know, we are a
43:29
Speaker 2: matriarchal society which respects women. I think we have grown
43:34
Speaker 2: to respect women. Obviously they had, they've now got an
43:37
Speaker 2: omnivotent position within our society, certainly in the UK. I'm
43:40
Speaker 2: sure it's true here too, and quite right they they
43:43
Speaker 2: play a part in our society. They're very, very important,
43:46
Speaker 2: a part of everything. But again under you know, the
43:51
Speaker 2: the Islamic Code, I think that the Muslims are frightened
43:55
Speaker 2: of female sexuality. It's it's all, it's all there and
43:59
Speaker 2: as you know, you get FGM female genital mutilation. So
44:05
Speaker 2: these these cultures, I think, Joe and to your point,
44:09
Speaker 2: are just incompatible unless you have a very strong government
44:14
Speaker 2: which basically protects it's electorate from any subversive behavior which
44:20
Speaker 2: is not compatible with our values.
44:22
Speaker 1: You keep using the term meet. Is that how they actually.
44:25
Speaker 2: Referred to it as that's that's that's how they consider it.
44:28
Speaker 2: What do they say, like, that's it's it's in our
44:31
Speaker 2: report that that's that there was. Actually I think it was.
44:35
Speaker 2: I think it was.
44:36
Speaker 1: Is it a translation?
44:37
Speaker 2: I think Thomas Jefferson, Actually it's in our report. Asked
44:40
Speaker 2: the Barbary pirates about the way in which they treated
44:45
Speaker 2: their their slaves and their women that was particularly slid.
44:48
Speaker 2: They just also slaveries is accepted within within Islamic countries.
44:55
Speaker 2: So so I think they have their own codes, they
44:58
Speaker 2: have their own terms of reference. And there is a
45:00
Speaker 2: quote in there. I'd have to look at the report
45:04
Speaker 2: to give it to you, but where one of them
45:06
Speaker 2: does liken white girls not dressing as Muslim girls dress
45:14
Speaker 2: and he does liken it to meet Jesus. And you
45:19
Speaker 2: know that that is an analogy he used. So I mean, yeah,
45:23
Speaker 2: I think that's what they think.
45:25
Speaker 1: This. So this rape Gang Inquiry report that you have
45:30
Speaker 1: just released, the number, I want you to say it
45:34
Speaker 1: because it sounds so crazy if I say it, people,
45:37
Speaker 1: it's going to sound wrong. What the number of people
45:40
Speaker 1: that were victims?
45:41
Speaker 2: The estimate, Well, we've estimated that a minimum of a
45:44
Speaker 2: quarter of a million rapes have taken place. It's probably
45:49
Speaker 2: much much more, Joe, because because we published in here,
45:53
Speaker 2: I think it's a list of one hundred and forty
45:54
Speaker 2: seven parts of the UK where this is happening. Now
45:57
Speaker 2: the government tries to tell you it's happening in Rochdale,
46:00
Speaker 2: you know, one or two Bradford one or two centers.
46:04
Speaker 2: And that's why their statue to inquiry, the terms of
46:06
Speaker 2: reference of that and have been downgraded, so they make
46:09
Speaker 2: it look as if it's not a systemic problem but
46:12
Speaker 2: just a little local problem, which it isn't. So we've
46:16
Speaker 2: listed here and they're all in here the places where
46:20
Speaker 2: we know it's happening from our rope Gang inquiry. But
46:23
Speaker 2: every time we published this year, I I people emailing
46:27
Speaker 2: us or sending us messages on social media to say,
46:30
Speaker 2: what about red Ruth in Cornwall? What about it's happening here.
46:34
Speaker 2: It's happening here, It's happening here. So I think it's
46:37
Speaker 2: incredibly widespread. And there's other people who've corroborated that quarter
46:42
Speaker 2: of a million figure. That's an incredibly conservative figure. You
46:46
Speaker 2: can't be exact because the state is not collecting the
46:49
Speaker 2: data which it should be doing, and we've been lobbying
46:52
Speaker 2: in Parliament to make sure that the state's collection of
46:55
Speaker 2: the data improves, and then we can actually see the
46:59
Speaker 2: extent of them and you can actually pinpoint it in
47:02
Speaker 2: the same way that we've done it in this report.
47:05
Speaker 2: So this is I think it's linked to organized crime.
47:09
Speaker 2: I think it's linked to the drug trade. I'm pretty
47:13
Speaker 2: sure it's linked to the drug trade. And obviously it's
47:15
Speaker 2: linked to prostitution, so so as usual with an evil
47:20
Speaker 2: like this, and you've got girls who are transported around
47:24
Speaker 2: in the back of pickups and and in cages. And
47:30
Speaker 2: at our rape gang inquiry, we had examples of girls
47:33
Speaker 2: who were raped by dogs and filmed, either aly raped
47:39
Speaker 2: or vaginally raped and literally watched filmed, and a lot
47:44
Speaker 2: of it's about servitude and about you know, there's other
47:48
Speaker 2: stories in here about women having to lick the face,
47:52
Speaker 2: the feet of their of their rapists. It's it's about power,
47:57
Speaker 2: it's about servitude, and it's about the fact that Muslim
48:01
Speaker 2: men are taught to believe that they are superior not
48:05
Speaker 2: only to women, but they're superior to people like you,
48:09
Speaker 2: yourself and myself, who are considered to be if you like,
48:15
Speaker 2: the infidels. And their job is to effectively spread Islam
48:25
Speaker 2: and effectively punish the infidel And as you probably know,
48:29
Speaker 2: in the Crusades, if you lost a saladin and you
48:32
Speaker 2: were a knights templar, a crusader, you had two choices.
48:36
Speaker 2: You either converted to Islam or they killed you. And
48:41
Speaker 2: in the case of a lot of these girls, a
48:44
Speaker 2: lot of them were made pregnant, they were they were
48:48
Speaker 2: impregnated and they then had to convert to Islam. Some
48:53
Speaker 2: of them were trafficked to Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, other parts
48:58
Speaker 2: of the world. So look, I mean this, this is
49:01
Speaker 2: a massive national scandal and I'm hoping now I'm an MP,
49:06
Speaker 2: We've written this report and this should stimulate debate. We
49:10
Speaker 2: send a copy of this on a PDF to every
49:13
Speaker 2: MP and we're going to send this printed copy to
49:16
Speaker 2: all of them as well, because everybody in power should
49:19
Speaker 2: look at this and they should start to correct it immediately.
49:24
Speaker 1: You use the term, the term is used rape gang.
49:27
Speaker 1: Why why are you saying gang? And this is an
49:31
Speaker 1: organized practice? Yes, yes, So it's not as simple as
49:35
Speaker 1: Islamic men are raping poor white girls. It's that they
49:38
Speaker 1: go out in gangs specifically for this purpose.
49:42
Speaker 2: They these are properly organized gangs who are grooming and
49:47
Speaker 2: abusing young girls as young as ten or eleven and
49:51
Speaker 2: then literally trafficking them around the country. We know that
49:56
Speaker 2: from from from from the testaments we've had so originally,
49:59
Speaker 2: when I I went into parliament, I was late elected
50:02
Speaker 2: late so I was elected in July twenty four, so
50:07
Speaker 2: at the tender age of sixty seven. So we heard
50:12
Speaker 2: them being referred to as Asian grooming gangs, which I
50:17
Speaker 2: think is a misnomer because it's unfair on, for instance,
50:20
Speaker 2: the Japanese or other Asian cultures who don't do this.
50:26
Speaker 2: So when we, thanks to Elon Musk, we actually did
50:30
Speaker 2: and as you're quite right, thanks to him giving us
50:32
Speaker 2: a free speech platform. And Facebook's thankfully followed as well.
50:35
Speaker 2: So he's led the charge through his purchase of what
50:38
Speaker 2: was Twitter. So when I got into I gave a
50:41
Speaker 2: speech in Parliament where I didn't. I said, they're not
50:46
Speaker 2: Asian grooming gangs. I'm going to call them what they are.
50:49
Speaker 2: They're Pakistani Muslim rape gangs. So I said this in Parliament.
50:53
Speaker 2: So Jamie Bill drag it up if he goes on
50:56
Speaker 2: to the you know, because everything goes into Hansard. And
50:59
Speaker 2: I gave this speech and it called shock in the
51:03
Speaker 2: House of Commons. Now, I'm not the smartest kid on
51:07
Speaker 2: the block, but what I do in Parliament is I
51:09
Speaker 2: tell the truth. So you know, I'm only interested in
51:12
Speaker 2: telling the truth and getting to the truth and changing
51:14
Speaker 2: way in which were governed. That's what I've gone into
51:16
Speaker 2: parliament for. You know, I haven't gone into this. I
51:19
Speaker 2: give my parliamentary salary to charity. You know, I'm a
51:23
Speaker 2: reasonably successful person who's lived his life. I've been chairman
51:27
Speaker 2: of a football club. I don't know if you're interested
51:29
Speaker 2: in Premier League football, but I was chairman of Southampton,
51:31
Speaker 2: so I built the stadium for Southampton. I used to
51:34
Speaker 2: play competitive hockey and I built up the youth academy
51:38
Speaker 2: at Southampton and I loved the best of my life
51:40
Speaker 2: was when we got to the Cup File in two
51:42
Speaker 2: thousand and three. We lost one nil to Arsenal, but
51:45
Speaker 2: it was the most amazing experience for everybody. So look,
51:48
Speaker 2: I'm not doing this because I want necessarily to be
51:52
Speaker 2: doing it. I'm doing because somebody's got to do it.
51:54
Speaker 2: And if we're going to change Britain, we've got to
51:58
Speaker 2: get the public to buy into what we're doing. And
52:01
Speaker 2: as I say, i'm not a classic politician, I'm not
52:03
Speaker 2: saying you've got to vote for me. I'm saying that
52:07
Speaker 2: we've got to change Britain by twenty nine or I
52:10
Speaker 2: think the country, from what I can see, is interminal decline.
52:14
Speaker 2: So I sit on the Public Accounts Committee. I see
52:16
Speaker 2: the waste, I see the unaccountability, I see the way
52:19
Speaker 2: in which the civil service does not serve the people
52:22
Speaker 2: which is supposed to serve. I see our debt rising
52:26
Speaker 2: to nearly one hundred percent of GDP. I see massive
52:29
Speaker 2: misallocation of procurement on our weapons. I see fraud in
52:34
Speaker 2: the judiciary. I see all the things.
52:37
Speaker 1: That sounds like you're talking about America.
52:38
Speaker 2: Well I'm talking about I'm talking about Britain at the moment, Joe.
52:42
Speaker 1: But I think it's a widespread problem.
52:44
Speaker 2: Well I actually, I actually think America under Joe Biden
52:48
Speaker 2: probably was as bad as that. And if you look
52:51
Speaker 2: at what you know Elon and the boys uncovered with
52:55
Speaker 2: the USAID and all of the misallocation of taxpayer funds,
52:59
Speaker 2: a lot of it to England. Some of it came
53:02
Speaker 2: to woke causes in England. So look, whoever the architects
53:07
Speaker 2: of this are, whether it's the World Economic Forum, whoever
53:10
Speaker 2: they are, whether it's the Builder Burghers, whether it's the
53:12
Speaker 2: Council on Foreign Relations, whether it's whatever malign influence is
53:17
Speaker 2: trying to do this, we have to collectively try and
53:19
Speaker 2: reverse it. So I'm saying to people, if you want,
53:24
Speaker 2: I will do my damnes to reverse it. You know,
53:26
Speaker 2: I've run multiple businesses. I was in the City of
53:29
Speaker 2: London for twenty years, so I know about finance and
53:32
Speaker 2: I will commit to doing whatever I can to reverse
53:36
Speaker 2: this for the British people. But they've got they've got
53:38
Speaker 2: to buy into it. They've got to buy into it.
53:40
Speaker 1: We are there people that are in denial that this
53:42
Speaker 1: is happening, that this rape gang problem is real.
53:46
Speaker 2: Oh, without a shadow of a doubt. Labour, what do
53:48
Speaker 2: they say, Well, Labor just tries to look the other way.
53:52
Speaker 1: But when it confronted, when confronted by the numbers, what
53:55
Speaker 1: is their response.
53:56
Speaker 2: Well, we've been demanding a statutory inquiry. In the end,
54:00
Speaker 2: we crowdfunded this, right.
54:02
Speaker 1: What is their response to that?
54:03
Speaker 2: Well, their response to this has been pretty muted to
54:05
Speaker 2: be frank. I mean, the BBC haven't covered it at all. Really,
54:08
Speaker 2: a national monopolistic broadcaster paid for by a compulsory fee,
54:14
Speaker 2: have not covered this as a as a matter of
54:17
Speaker 2: public interest, nor of Sky, nor properly of the Daily Telegraph.
54:24
Speaker 2: Gb News have covered a tiny Patrick Christis covered one
54:27
Speaker 2: evening of it. Now, this is a massive national scandal
54:31
Speaker 2: that deserves complete, a complete and utter airing.
54:35
Speaker 1: How does the BBC justify not discussing this well.
54:40
Speaker 2: The BBC is part of our problem, Jo, So to
54:43
Speaker 2: your point about you know the Democrats, the BBC is
54:46
Speaker 2: a deeply malign organization. So it was set up to inform,
54:52
Speaker 2: education and entertain and it was set up by Michael Wreath,
54:56
Speaker 2: and Wreath was a highly principled man and I think
54:59
Speaker 2: at the time it set up in the twenties was
55:02
Speaker 2: it probably did have a role. But in the digital
55:07
Speaker 2: age where most of the young people no longer watch
55:12
Speaker 2: their news on the BBC. They get their news from
55:15
Speaker 2: whatever their favorite news channels and whether it's Bright Bart
55:18
Speaker 2: whoever they can and get it from, they get it
55:20
Speaker 2: from somewhere else. But if you want to watch sport,
55:23
Speaker 2: you want to you know, basically have your TV. You
55:26
Speaker 2: have to pay the TV license.
55:28
Speaker 1: There's still a problem that I'm sure exists in England,
55:31
Speaker 1: just as it exists in America. There's a certain subset
55:33
Speaker 1: of our society, a large percentage of our society, particularly
55:36
Speaker 1: older people, that things are not legitimate unless they're discussed
55:40
Speaker 1: in corporate media, and that if it's not The New
55:43
Speaker 1: York Times, if it's not on CNN, if it's not
55:46
Speaker 1: you know, fill in the blank, then it can't be
55:48
Speaker 1: completely legitimate. It has to be a fringe thing, it
55:52
Speaker 1: has to be a conspiracy thing. They still need these
55:57
Speaker 1: these sort of legacy establishments to give them the new
56:00
Speaker 1: is because that has been the way they grew up,
56:02
Speaker 1: that has been how they were trained, and in their mind,
56:05
Speaker 1: they don't understand the Internet completely. They don't go on Twitter,
56:09
Speaker 1: and so all that stuff to them is it's just
56:12
Speaker 1: too fringe. So that's always going to be a problem.
56:16
Speaker 1: And if someone like the BBC doesn't cover this stuff
56:20
Speaker 1: for a lot of people that are woefully ignorant, they
56:24
Speaker 1: can still kind of claim that ignorance and dismiss it
56:27
Speaker 1: because the BBC isn't covering it.
56:29
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. I mean, that's a very good summary
56:32
Speaker 2: because the BBC historically was totally trusted and their news
56:38
Speaker 2: bulletins were designs, i say, to be impartial completely and
56:43
Speaker 2: being a public sector broadcast, so their job was to
56:46
Speaker 2: cover matters like this and create debate. But as we know,
56:51
Speaker 2: monopolies go bad. I mean, monopolies in my view are
56:56
Speaker 2: generally a bad thing, particularly in the digital age, where
56:59
Speaker 2: you know, thanks to Elon Musk and what he did
57:02
Speaker 2: with X, I think he has released free speech. I
57:06
Speaker 2: think he has returned some sort of semblance of people's
57:12
Speaker 2: ability to be able to force debate without being bullied
57:16
Speaker 2: by a monopoly like the BBC. So if I ever
57:20
Speaker 2: get near power, I will responsibly defund the BBC as
57:23
Speaker 2: one of the first things I do. I think the
57:25
Speaker 2: BBC is dripping poison into the veins of Britain every day.
57:30
Speaker 1: What other examples of what the BBC is doing do
57:33
Speaker 1: you think is dripping poison?
57:34
Speaker 2: Well, I think a lot of their coverage is not objective,
57:38
Speaker 2: it's woke. I mean, they're into all this DEI They're
57:41
Speaker 2: into obviously the LGBTQ, plus they're into all of the
57:46
Speaker 2: all of the things which I think, as we said earlier,
57:49
Speaker 2: probably came from this Democrat period. But it's been happening
57:55
Speaker 2: for a long time. I think if you look at
57:57
Speaker 2: the Labor Party again, I don't know if you've ever
58:00
Speaker 2: heard of the Fabian Society. So the Fabian Society is
58:05
Speaker 2: was set up in the in the eighteen eighties and
58:08
Speaker 2: it was basically most of the Labor front Bench and
58:11
Speaker 2: most of the Labor Party are members of the Fabian Society.
58:15
Speaker 2: So the Fabian Society George Bernard Shaw was a member
58:17
Speaker 2: of the Fabian Society. You'll have heard of George Bernonshaw.
58:21
Speaker 2: So he it's the most extraordinary organization. That their emblem
58:25
Speaker 2: is a wolf in sheep's clothing. As if, as if,
58:29
Speaker 2: as if that doesn't tell you what they're doing. That's
58:31
Speaker 2: the emblem.
58:31
Speaker 1: So can I see what that looks like?
58:33
Speaker 2: That's their emblems, wolf in sheep's clothing, Fabian Society. The
58:37
Speaker 2: Fabian Society is I need to see that. You should
58:39
Speaker 2: have a look at that. I might have to get
58:40
Speaker 2: Should I tell you what else they do?
58:42
Speaker 1: I need a shirt?
58:42
Speaker 2: So I tell you what else they were? They were
58:44
Speaker 2: eugenicists originally, whoa yes?
58:47
Speaker 1: When?
58:48
Speaker 2: Well how far back George?
58:50
Speaker 1: That that is damn crazy.
58:53
Speaker 2: Well everyone should look at the Fabian Society because that
58:56
Speaker 2: runs deep through the veins of life. That is damn crazy.
58:59
Speaker 2: What do you think of that?
59:00
Speaker 1: That is damn crazy. So, ladies and gentlemen, if you're
59:03
Speaker 1: just listening to this, this Fabian Society coat of arms
59:07
Speaker 1: is really a black wolf that has a sheep's body
59:11
Speaker 1: strapped on top of its back and it's like covering
59:15
Speaker 1: its But this is insane, that's crazy. That what a
59:21
Speaker 1: what a complete disdain for anybody else's intelligence. Like they'ren't
59:28
Speaker 1: even trying to hide it. They're just like.
59:31
Speaker 2: They're all members the front bench, are all members of
59:32
Speaker 2: the Fabiane society, so that that coat of.
59:35
Speaker 1: Arms starmer is also a member.
59:39
Speaker 2: You want, you want to hold anything you want to society.
59:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, just for a goof they're gonna be hilarious.
59:45
Speaker 2: But no, So that's that runs through the Labor Party.
59:48
Speaker 2: So that's all part of it. So I think the
59:50
Speaker 2: agenda has been to your point, they're infiltrated our education system. Uh.
59:57
Speaker 2: And you know, I'm proud of our history. I mean,
1:00:00
Speaker 2: Britain stopped the slave trade. It cost us a fortune,
1:00:04
Speaker 2: we did it almost unilaterally, and you know, I think
1:00:09
Speaker 2: on the whole have been a force for good in
1:00:10
Speaker 2: the world, not bad. I'm proud to say that I've
1:00:13
Speaker 2: studied a lot of history. I think there are many
1:00:16
Speaker 2: other cultures, probably the Belgians and the French, who have
1:00:20
Speaker 2: far more brutal than us with their colonies. So I
1:00:23
Speaker 2: think we've tended to leave a legacy where we've tried
1:00:26
Speaker 2: to instill the rule of law. Look at India, look
1:00:30
Speaker 2: at a lot of the other countries. That we were
1:00:32
Speaker 2: involved with. They're now flourishing because of the I think
1:00:36
Speaker 2: the structures that we left in place. And it's very
1:00:39
Speaker 2: sad to watch us almost turning in on ourselves and
1:00:44
Speaker 2: having left the legacy in other countries, we ourselves have
1:00:47
Speaker 2: lost sight of what of what we should be doing.
1:00:51
Speaker 1: It's just it's really extraordinary seeing the perspective of a
1:00:54
Speaker 1: lot of young people that are very impressionable, that come
1:00:56
Speaker 1: out of universities and have an utter complete disdain for
1:01:02
Speaker 1: these successful societies. And instead of looking at these successful
1:01:06
Speaker 1: societies and saying, well, yeah, people were really terrible in
1:01:10
Speaker 1: the past, but this is a pretty good example of
1:01:13
Speaker 1: how people should be treated equally today. No it's not perfect,
1:01:17
Speaker 1: but it's progressing in a better direction than it was
1:01:21
Speaker 1: in the past. Right, Instead they look to the past
1:01:23
Speaker 1: and everything is built on this horrible history of outrageous,
1:01:27
Speaker 1: atrocious acts, and therefore it must be punished currently and
1:01:31
Speaker 1: all the people that benefited from its, specifically white people,
1:01:34
Speaker 1: need to be cast out, they need to be silenced.
1:01:38
Speaker 1: They multiculturalism is the only way to go complete open borders.
1:01:43
Speaker 1: Like the way they look at things is like, how
1:01:46
Speaker 1: do you think these countries got so good. What do
1:01:50
Speaker 1: you think is about America or about England, about any
1:01:53
Speaker 1: of these countries that leads them to be where they
1:01:56
Speaker 1: are today. Well, it's a long history of progress, us,
1:02:00
Speaker 1: a long history and along the way, yeah, like, especially
1:02:05
Speaker 1: when you go back hundreds of years ago, people are
1:02:07
Speaker 1: fucking terrible.
1:02:08
Speaker 2: They're terrible everywhere. You know.
1:02:09
Speaker 1: Humans are just getting better at being people, like pretty recently.
1:02:13
Speaker 1: But to throw it all out and abandon it, and
1:02:16
Speaker 1: to think that socialism is going to fix you, Like,
1:02:19
Speaker 1: do you guys read anything. There's not a single example
1:02:23
Speaker 1: of that not turning to tyranny, and their their take
1:02:27
Speaker 1: on it does is always it hasn't been done correctly,
1:02:29
Speaker 1: and that is so wild that people are still willing
1:02:32
Speaker 1: to swallow that. And the only thing that makes sense
1:02:35
Speaker 1: is they've been indoctrinated through universities to think this way,
1:02:38
Speaker 1: because nowhere in the real world do you think that
1:02:42
Speaker 1: a quality of outcome ever makes any sense, Because everybody
1:02:45
Speaker 1: realizes somewhere along the line, when you get your first job,
1:02:47
Speaker 1: when you're a kid, when you're going through school, when
1:02:49
Speaker 1: you're playing sports, there's not a quality of effort. There's
1:02:52
Speaker 1: never a quality of effort, and there's always some people
1:02:55
Speaker 1: that want to put in more effort, and they're put
1:02:58
Speaker 1: in more thought and more focus, and they get further
1:03:01
Speaker 1: and you know, oh, well, they're fucking over all these
1:03:03
Speaker 1: other people. Are you sure that's everything, because it seems
1:03:07
Speaker 1: like it's not. And it seems like as soon as
1:03:09
Speaker 1: you remove any incentive to succeed, then you don't have
1:03:13
Speaker 1: any of the amazing stuff that you have around you
1:03:15
Speaker 1: all the time. The reason why you have beautiful televisions
1:03:19
Speaker 1: and starlink and all its capitalism. You have to incentivize
1:03:24
Speaker 1: people to create these things. Yea, it doesn't mean the
1:03:27
Speaker 1: only way to do it is to fuck other people over.
1:03:29
Speaker 1: That's not correct. It could be done correctly. It could
1:03:32
Speaker 1: be done humanely. It can be done wisely. You could
1:03:36
Speaker 1: vote with your dollars, you could, you know, boycott companies
1:03:39
Speaker 1: that do things that you don't think are ethical. There's
1:03:41
Speaker 1: all sorts of wonderful ways that capitalism could be used
1:03:44
Speaker 1: and you can sort of influence things in the right direction.
1:03:46
Speaker 1: But to throw it all out and say we've got
1:03:49
Speaker 1: to go socialism, like, oh boy, I can't believe people
1:03:53
Speaker 1: are buying that. I just that to me is one
1:03:56
Speaker 1: of the real problems with not allowing conservative voices in universities,
1:04:00
Speaker 1: and these universities, especially in the United States, or a
1:04:04
Speaker 1: lot of especially like in sociology, psychology, and the overwhelmingly liberal, Like,
1:04:12
Speaker 1: surely there's got to be some historians out there that
1:04:15
Speaker 1: are conservative and they would have a different perspective, and
1:04:18
Speaker 1: it might be good to have diversity of opinion as
1:04:23
Speaker 1: well as diversity of national origin, as well as diversity
1:04:26
Speaker 1: of gender, as well as diversity of sexual orientation. Yeah,
1:04:29
Speaker 1: all that stuff's great, but also diversity of opinion. Like,
1:04:32
Speaker 1: the only way to know whether or not this person's
1:04:36
Speaker 1: making sense is to have someone who completely disagrees, that
1:04:39
Speaker 1: has a better point, go up against them, and you
1:04:41
Speaker 1: watch them duke it out. And as soon as you
1:04:43
Speaker 1: silence all that because students don't feel safe, or because
1:04:47
Speaker 1: you know this is promoting X, Y, and Z, this
1:04:50
Speaker 1: person's a Nazi. Oh they're a Nazi. We can't let
1:04:52
Speaker 1: them on there. As soon as you do that, you
1:04:55
Speaker 1: ruin the whole thing that a university is supposed to
1:04:57
Speaker 1: be doing. It's supposed to be preparing young minds for
1:05:00
Speaker 1: discourse and for communicating and for figuring out the world
1:05:04
Speaker 1: on their own. They're eventually going to be independent and
1:05:06
Speaker 1: dependent entirely on their own actions and decisions and go
1:05:09
Speaker 1: out there in the world figure out your way arm
1:05:12
Speaker 1: them correctly. And the way to do that is to
1:05:15
Speaker 1: expose them to all sorts of different competing ideas. The
1:05:18
Speaker 1: idea that that was ever accepted to be shut down
1:05:21
Speaker 1: in this country, especially in America, is a massive failure
1:05:24
Speaker 1: of the education system, Just massive. If you think that
1:05:27
Speaker 1: someone has bad points, come up with better points and
1:05:31
Speaker 1: let them do it out, and don't pull fire alarms
1:05:33
Speaker 1: and don't silence them, and don't scream and protest and
1:05:36
Speaker 1: throw things at them. Communicate. This is what Anybody who
1:05:40
Speaker 1: doesn't do that should be shunned. I agree if you're
1:05:43
Speaker 1: one of those people that says, no, you can't talk
1:05:45
Speaker 1: to Nazis like shun them. Shut They are the enemy
1:05:49
Speaker 1: of thinking, they are the enemy of progress. They are
1:05:52
Speaker 1: the enemy of finding out what's right and what's wrong.
1:05:54
Speaker 1: And the only way we find that out is we communicate.
1:05:57
Speaker 2: Free speech. Free speech well, free speech each and a
1:06:01
Speaker 2: degree of Darwinism. You have to have what we have
1:06:03
Speaker 2: in the UK now is I always say reverse Darwinian theory,
1:06:08
Speaker 2: and again at schools now in my day I'm lucky.
1:06:11
Speaker 2: We we like to win. To win was good, to
1:06:14
Speaker 2: win fairly in a proper game of hockey or rugby
1:06:17
Speaker 2: or whatever was great. But now in schools winning is
1:06:23
Speaker 2: considered to be bad. Everybody needs to have an opportunity
1:06:26
Speaker 2: to be treated the same in sports, often often in sport,
1:06:29
Speaker 2: to win, to be seen as a competitive winner.
1:06:32
Speaker 1: You guys don't have wrestling.
1:06:34
Speaker 2: We don't have a wrestling I know you do. You
1:06:35
Speaker 2: do cage fighting and stuff.
1:06:38
Speaker 1: But I mean wrestling, just wrestling as a sport, just
1:06:40
Speaker 1: wrestling for high school and college. Just like wrestlers. Understand
1:06:44
Speaker 1: meritocracy as good as any human being alive, because there's
1:06:50
Speaker 1: no way to make it unless you work hard.
1:06:52
Speaker 2: But isn't this the battle, the age old battle between
1:06:56
Speaker 2: individualism and collectivism. Yes, because the collective likes to curb
1:07:02
Speaker 2: the individual. I like to foster the individual. And I
1:07:05
Speaker 2: think what the state fears most is highly successful, independent
1:07:12
Speaker 2: minded people who are capable of putting their point of
1:07:15
Speaker 2: view and discussing it with each other. So what they
1:07:18
Speaker 2: try and do through the taxation in the UK, what
1:07:22
Speaker 2: they're doing is they're taxing, to your point, people who contribute,
1:07:25
Speaker 2: to work hard, and there are still a lot of
1:07:27
Speaker 2: people who fight very hard to feed their families. They're proud,
1:07:31
Speaker 2: they don't want to be part of this welfare ism.
1:07:35
Speaker 2: They want to provide and they work hard, but the
1:07:38
Speaker 2: state puts everything in their way, or the regulations, the rules,
1:07:42
Speaker 2: the taxes, everything is, everything is the force is not
1:07:46
Speaker 2: with them, and that's got to be wrong. I mean,
1:07:50
Speaker 2: I think what you need is a lot of successful
1:07:52
Speaker 2: individual family businesses, communities which are self sufficient, communities that
1:07:58
Speaker 2: respect each other and effectively can have this debate with
1:08:03
Speaker 2: each other. You get it the truth. And I think
1:08:06
Speaker 2: as a result of that, most of the best inventions
1:08:09
Speaker 2: have come from the UK, the US, from the Anglo
1:08:13
Speaker 2: Saxon world, where individualism, when it's allowed to flourish, does
1:08:18
Speaker 2: a lot of good for mankind. And to your point,
1:08:20
Speaker 2: I think this is what's been undermined by these what
1:08:23
Speaker 2: I call central planners.
1:08:25
Speaker 1: And a lot of these great inventions in America have
1:08:27
Speaker 1: come from people that immigrated legally from other countries because
1:08:30
Speaker 1: they appreciated what America stood for and they really wanted
1:08:33
Speaker 1: to make something happen, and they couldn't do it wherever
1:08:35
Speaker 1: they were.
1:08:35
Speaker 2: With extraordinaty in the UK is We've got a lot
1:08:37
Speaker 2: of support from people who are immigrants into the UK.
1:08:42
Speaker 2: They came to Britain because they respected our structures and
1:08:45
Speaker 2: what they want is they want structure. They don't want
1:08:48
Speaker 2: to see the country.
1:08:50
Speaker 1: In America of the same perspective, the same legal immigrants
1:08:52
Speaker 1: in America are pretty overwhelmingly against the whole open border
1:08:55
Speaker 1: idea because it took was so hard for them to
1:08:58
Speaker 1: become an American citizen. It's a very proud moment for
1:09:01
Speaker 1: them to do it.
1:09:01
Speaker 2: Like a lot of young people are a lot of
1:09:03
Speaker 2: support from the young people who are again people are
1:09:06
Speaker 2: online see this is the thing. So young people are
1:09:09
Speaker 2: much more i want to say informed, but at least
1:09:13
Speaker 2: aware of the issue.
1:09:14
Speaker 1: They're much more aware of things than older people that
1:09:17
Speaker 1: are just again reading the newspaper and watching teal version.
1:09:21
Speaker 2: But don't you think is it may be the same
1:09:23
Speaker 2: here in Britain. A lot of them wealth is tied
1:09:26
Speaker 2: up in what I call the baby boomers. So I'm
1:09:28
Speaker 2: a sort of tail end boomeruse I'm sixty eight, but
1:09:30
Speaker 2: the sort of bulk of them are probably seventy to
1:09:34
Speaker 2: ninety and a lot of the pension wealth is held
1:09:37
Speaker 2: there and a lot of the damage that's been done
1:09:40
Speaker 2: to our financial markets has come from a version to risk.
1:09:44
Speaker 2: Risk is a good thing in my opinion. So people
1:09:46
Speaker 2: need to take risk risk. You know, the entrepreneur takes
1:09:50
Speaker 2: risk and he gets reward if he gets it right.
1:09:53
Speaker 2: But if you tax him into oblivium, he doesn't take
1:09:55
Speaker 2: the risk. And what's happened in Britain is the baby boomers.
1:09:58
Speaker 2: The wealth is all locked up there. They want to
1:10:01
Speaker 2: see their retirement through safely, and not enough money is
1:10:04
Speaker 2: cascading down to the young people to be able to
1:10:07
Speaker 2: build their lives in the same way that the boomers
1:10:09
Speaker 2: were given a chance to make money in this very.
1:10:14
Speaker 1: When you see not enough money is cascading down like
1:10:16
Speaker 1: how so what's the.
1:10:17
Speaker 2: Well the money is all locked up with these old
1:10:20
Speaker 2: baby moves and that they're more concerned with their pensions
1:10:23
Speaker 2: and their retirement than they are with generating an ongoing
1:10:27
Speaker 2: wealth chain, which gives an opportunity for the young to
1:10:30
Speaker 2: be involved.
1:10:30
Speaker 1: So you meaning they're not starting businesses, no very much. Not,
1:10:33
Speaker 1: They're just holding onto their money. They're holding onto their money.
1:10:36
Speaker 1: So that's an England thing.
1:10:38
Speaker 2: In England definitely, I mean, I think it's a big issue.
1:10:41
Speaker 2: I don't know what it's an issue here? Is it
1:10:42
Speaker 2: an issue here?
1:10:43
Speaker 1: Well, there's certainly an issue here with young people feeling
1:10:46
Speaker 1: like the system is completely rigged. Cost of housing is
1:10:51
Speaker 1: through the roof, rent is through the roof, Groceries are
1:10:55
Speaker 1: more expensive. Inflation here is a giant problem. It's a
1:10:58
Speaker 1: giant problem for people that are struggling. We were just
1:11:01
Speaker 1: looking at something the other day on the Internet where
1:11:05
Speaker 1: it was talking about a number of finance a number
1:11:09
Speaker 1: from was it like two thousand and seven or two
1:11:12
Speaker 1: thousand and eight or something like that. There was like
1:11:13
Speaker 1: two hundred and twenty five thousand dollars and it's four
1:11:16
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty thousand dollars in today.
1:11:18
Speaker 2: Like that's crazy.
1:11:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like twenty years ago. Like to have something
1:11:25
Speaker 1: double in twenty years And you just think about how
1:11:28
Speaker 1: many people that are coming up that just feel like
1:11:30
Speaker 1: AI is going to take all their jobs, so they
1:11:32
Speaker 1: don't know what to do. And now they're in student debt.
1:11:34
Speaker 1: Because you guys have free education over there, which is
1:11:37
Speaker 1: a wonderful thing. I mean, I completely support that idea,
1:11:40
Speaker 1: but in America, these kids get saddled down with debt
1:11:44
Speaker 1: that they can't escape.
1:11:45
Speaker 2: Well, we don't have in England. We don't have free
1:11:47
Speaker 2: education in England. In Scotland they do. Scotland has free education.
1:11:52
Speaker 2: We did used to have it. You're quite right, but
1:11:54
Speaker 2: when did it go away? Well now students have to
1:11:56
Speaker 2: take out lens and this is another shocking.
1:12:01
Speaker 1: So I thought you guys had free healthcare and free education.
1:12:03
Speaker 2: We have we have what do you call it free
1:12:06
Speaker 2: healthcare assuming you can get a doctor now because you know,
1:12:09
Speaker 2: most people now are having to source their own medical
1:12:12
Speaker 2: treatment because it takes you so long to get an
1:12:14
Speaker 2: operational to get a doctor's appointment. It's although the sort
1:12:18
Speaker 2: of health service was set up post war to provide
1:12:21
Speaker 2: free healthcare. When it becomes incredibly inefficient, people have to
1:12:25
Speaker 2: seek their own care otherwise they don't get treated. But
1:12:29
Speaker 2: I look, I think with student debt, now.
1:12:33
Speaker 1: What did they change? We're university education.
1:12:35
Speaker 2: It's changed. So now what year was this? Well it's
1:12:39
Speaker 2: been changed for a long time, so yeah, yeah, yeah,
1:12:42
Speaker 2: So my oldest son is thirty five, so he took
1:12:47
Speaker 2: out a student leon. It was less then and then
1:12:49
Speaker 2: the fees shot up so much.
1:12:52
Speaker 1: What's it like for Oxford? What's a typical how much.
1:12:54
Speaker 2: Well, they run up students will run up debt of
1:12:57
Speaker 2: in the UK. Now it's not uncommon to run up
1:12:59
Speaker 2: a debt of sixty pounds.
1:13:01
Speaker 1: So it's very similar to what's going on in the.
1:13:03
Speaker 2: Sixty pounds and they're charged the most hideous rate of
1:13:07
Speaker 2: interest on it.
1:13:08
Speaker 1: Do you want to set your laws in terms of
1:13:10
Speaker 1: bankruptcy over there?
1:13:11
Speaker 2: We do have bankruptcy laws, yeah, but do you have
1:13:14
Speaker 2: bankruptcy student debt? You won't be bankrupt days student debt
1:13:17
Speaker 2: there because because the student debt, they just accrue the interest.
1:13:21
Speaker 2: If you go and work in a foreign country, often
1:13:24
Speaker 2: you don't have to pay the student debt back. I
1:13:27
Speaker 2: think it's a thirty year liability. But once you start working,
1:13:32
Speaker 2: then the student debt organization will take interest and principle
1:13:36
Speaker 2: out of your salary.
1:13:37
Speaker 1: In America, they forge if you go bankrupt. They'll forgive
1:13:40
Speaker 1: credit card debt, all sorts of other debt, but not
1:13:43
Speaker 1: student loan. It's the one loan that you cannot ever
1:13:46
Speaker 1: be forgiven from. In fact, people who have social security
1:13:49
Speaker 1: in America, their social security gets docked because they owe
1:13:53
Speaker 1: student loans.
1:13:54
Speaker 2: Is that right?
1:13:54
Speaker 1: Yeah? It's crazy. You imagine you're at the end of
1:13:57
Speaker 1: your life, you're living on social Security and they're taking
1:13:59
Speaker 1: peace of it for an education that clearly didn't help
1:14:03
Speaker 1: you out when I.
1:14:03
Speaker 2: Did it about you. But in England we've got these
1:14:05
Speaker 2: ridiculous courses in sort of humanities and sort of things
1:14:09
Speaker 2: that are completely abstruse, and these these these kids go
1:14:13
Speaker 2: and do these these what I call bullshit degrees and
1:14:16
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, they come out of
1:14:18
Speaker 2: it with a load of debt and no real skills.
1:14:21
Speaker 1: No skills in a completely ideologically captured mind.
1:14:25
Speaker 2: Very much, sir.
1:14:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's that's it's and there's not a lot of
1:14:31
Speaker 1: other alternatives. It's like most universities are left leaning, you know,
1:14:34
Speaker 1: And that's that's the issue that these kids have. You're
1:14:37
Speaker 1: even if you're from a conservative family or kids grow
1:14:40
Speaker 1: up a certain way, send them off to college and
1:14:43
Speaker 1: they're very impressionable, and they're going to get talked down
1:14:45
Speaker 1: to by a professor who's a communist who's never had
1:14:48
Speaker 1: a real job in his life, and he seems so smart,
1:14:51
Speaker 1: and he's very smug, and he insults you if you
1:14:53
Speaker 1: disagree with him, and he is the ruler of the classroom,
1:14:56
Speaker 1: and everybody like like little kids. They just give into
1:15:00
Speaker 1: this guy's ideas. The next thing you know, you're you're
1:15:04
Speaker 1: organizing on school grounds and you're doing all the same
1:15:07
Speaker 1: things that the other communists are doing, and you're you're
1:15:09
Speaker 1: part of the team. Hey, we're a nice we're gonna
1:15:12
Speaker 1: fix the world. And you don't realize how ridiculous it
1:15:15
Speaker 1: is until like maybe you're thirty five and you have
1:15:18
Speaker 1: a job, and then you have a family and you're like,
1:15:20
Speaker 1: what the fuck are we doing? Like what is this?
1:15:23
Speaker 2: It does change, doesn't it.
1:15:25
Speaker 1: But show me a young man who's that who quoted that?
1:15:30
Speaker 1: Who is that quote from? Show me a young man
1:15:32
Speaker 1: who's not a Was it liberal? Or is it progressive
1:15:36
Speaker 1: or whatever it is? Show me a young man who's
1:15:38
Speaker 1: not a liberal, and I'll show you a man without
1:15:40
Speaker 1: a heart. Show me an old man who's not conservative,
1:15:42
Speaker 1: and I'll show you a man without a brain.
1:15:44
Speaker 2: Yeah no, what identa who said that? But I it's
1:15:46
Speaker 2: it's a common who's a common saying say that? It's
1:15:51
Speaker 2: it's a true? Is it Churchill? Is it Churchill?
1:15:53
Speaker 1: There you go, one of your people. Yeah, brilliant and accurate,
1:15:58
Speaker 1: And it doesn't Being conservative doesn't mean you're not kind silly.
1:16:01
Speaker 1: It's just recognition of human nature, and you can't You
1:16:06
Speaker 1: can't reward people for not putting in effort, because then
1:16:10
Speaker 1: they will find ways to not put an effort. You
1:16:11
Speaker 1: can't reward people for being a quote unquote victim. And
1:16:16
Speaker 1: I don't mean a real victim of a crime. I
1:16:18
Speaker 1: mean victimized by society, victimized by circumstance, victimize. You can't
1:16:23
Speaker 1: weaponize that because people will cling to it. People love excuses.
1:16:29
Speaker 1: Anybody who does sports. You played hockey, people love excuses. No,
1:16:33
Speaker 1: today my back hurts today, I don't feel up to
1:16:36
Speaker 1: it day, I'm a little tired. I can't do the
1:16:38
Speaker 1: final lap. People love excuses. And when you webinize that
1:16:42
Speaker 1: and you give people incentives to be excused, you give excuses,
1:16:45
Speaker 1: and then you put people on their heels like, whoa,
1:16:48
Speaker 1: I don't want to appear that I'm insensitive. Let's help
1:16:51
Speaker 1: you out. And then all of a sudden you've got
1:16:53
Speaker 1: a whole swath of society that has a carte blanche
1:16:57
Speaker 1: over your tax dollars for nonsense.
1:17:00
Speaker 2: Well, this is obviously what's happened in the UK. When
1:17:02
Speaker 2: I was brought up again, competition was a good thing.
1:17:06
Speaker 2: You know if you if you if you felt a
1:17:08
Speaker 2: bit rough, you just carried on. You didn't win, you
1:17:11
Speaker 2: didn't moan, you expected to fight for things. If you
1:17:14
Speaker 2: had to set back, you didn't immediately again and cry
1:17:16
Speaker 2: into your bear. You basically got on with it.
1:17:19
Speaker 1: Well, we need to teach people that that's it's character building.
1:17:23
Speaker 1: Like you're going to have rough days, and you should
1:17:25
Speaker 1: cherish those rough days because from them you will grow.
1:17:29
Speaker 1: You will grow from your rough days. The downtimes are
1:17:33
Speaker 1: the good ones, because those downtimes really give you the
1:17:35
Speaker 1: motivation and the real firepower to get out of whatever
1:17:40
Speaker 1: situation you're in and improve your life.
1:17:42
Speaker 2: And from adversity comes comes success. Yes, I think it
1:17:46
Speaker 2: comes character for characters and success. Yeah, character for sure.
1:17:49
Speaker 2: I mean it doesn't exist without some sort of adversity.
1:17:53
Speaker 2: But I do think I think the young were also
1:17:57
Speaker 2: badly affected by the COVID, by the response to COVID, Joe,
1:18:00
Speaker 2: and I think you and I share something in common.
1:18:02
Speaker 2: I'm a pure blood. I haven't. I didn't have your blood.
1:18:05
Speaker 2: I didn't have those I didn't have those injections. I
1:18:08
Speaker 2: wouldn't go anywhere near them.
1:18:10
Speaker 1: How did you get away with that? In the UK.
1:18:12
Speaker 2: Well, I used to go to Australia a lot, so
1:18:14
Speaker 2: I because I have some businesses in Perth in Western Australia.
1:18:17
Speaker 2: I love those old rocks in Western Australia, you know,
1:18:20
Speaker 2: the mining, the sort of wild West and cal Gurley
1:18:24
Speaker 2: in places like that, you know, which have got a
1:18:26
Speaker 2: huge historical connection to sort of gold prospecting and stuff.
1:18:31
Speaker 2: So I stopped going. I stopped traveling because it was
1:18:34
Speaker 2: very difficult to travel. But I don't know about you.
1:18:37
Speaker 2: I found the lockdown profoundly concerning. I thought, I thought
1:18:43
Speaker 2: things that I thought were not the norm. I was
1:18:46
Speaker 2: losing everything that made sense, and you know, there were
1:18:51
Speaker 2: things happening that I didn't think could ever happen in Britain.
1:18:57
Speaker 2: You know, it's the state literally took over and it
1:18:59
Speaker 2: frights people into submission. In America, and the young people
1:19:04
Speaker 2: suffered most because they didn't have the opportunity to socialize
1:19:09
Speaker 2: and to to your point, discuss ideas and get at
1:19:14
Speaker 2: the truth, they were literally locked up. Everything was online.
1:19:18
Speaker 2: It wasn't it wasn't right. The whole thing was completely wrong.
1:19:22
Speaker 1: And now imagine if you're in high school in America
1:19:24
Speaker 1: and you're in California. Your entire senior year, you're you're
1:19:28
Speaker 1: at home, you graduate, you can't even go to a
1:19:30
Speaker 1: graduation because it's too dangerous. Yeah, the whole the whole
1:19:33
Speaker 1: thing was madness.
1:19:34
Speaker 2: Well Sweden and Sweden got it right. And stand in Sweden,
1:19:37
Speaker 2: he was he was a great man, very brave man,
1:19:39
Speaker 2: and he got he got that right.
1:19:40
Speaker 1: And boy, there was a lot of pushback. It was
1:19:42
Speaker 1: amazing how many people were willing to do the work
1:19:45
Speaker 1: of the government, how many citizens were willing to enforce
1:19:49
Speaker 1: these ideas. It was really shocking. It was shocking to
1:19:53
Speaker 1: watch how many people became lemmings, how many people just
1:19:56
Speaker 1: stepped in line.
1:19:57
Speaker 2: We had people ratting on each other.
1:19:58
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did it because there were rewarding people in
1:20:01
Speaker 1: Los Angeles.
1:20:01
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, they were giving them.
1:20:03
Speaker 1: Financial rewards for telling on their neighbors that we're having parties.
1:20:07
Speaker 2: That's what happened. In England. I have a tennis court
1:20:10
Speaker 2: in the middle of nowhere, so I used to say,
1:20:12
Speaker 2: come up and play tennis, because it's ridiculous to stop
1:20:14
Speaker 2: you playing tennis outside. I mean absolutely mad Anyway, they
1:20:18
Speaker 2: used to come up and play tennis and Noyboy, you
1:20:21
Speaker 2: can see it if they played it in the village.
1:20:24
Speaker 2: Then people would report each other.
1:20:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, in California, we had people report on us because
1:20:28
Speaker 1: this desk is not six feet wide.
1:20:31
Speaker 2: Seriously, Oh yeah, yeah yeah.
1:20:33
Speaker 1: And then they also said we were talking close to
1:20:36
Speaker 1: each other without masks because there was a bunch of
1:20:39
Speaker 1: people that saw people walk in to the studio and
1:20:41
Speaker 1: we shook their hands, so they were ratting on us.
1:20:43
Speaker 1: And so we had to put a sign up in
1:20:45
Speaker 1: the front door of the studio and we had to
1:20:47
Speaker 1: have a bag of masks, a whole bag of Do
1:20:50
Speaker 1: we have to have hand sanitizer?
1:20:52
Speaker 2: Two?
1:20:52
Speaker 1: Did we have that too? I think so. I think
1:20:55
Speaker 1: we had to have hand sanitizer for a while at least.
1:20:58
Speaker 1: But we were getting ratted on because this desk is
1:21:01
Speaker 1: too close. So it's not this destinately five feet wide.
1:21:04
Speaker 1: So it's no social distancing.
1:21:06
Speaker 2: Its pathetic.
1:21:07
Speaker 1: It was non sense. It was so crazy. The whole
1:21:11
Speaker 1: thing made no sense, and it completely changed a lot
1:21:15
Speaker 1: of people's ideas about trusting experts and trusting authority. So
1:21:22
Speaker 1: many people thought that the health experts in this country
1:21:25
Speaker 1: were literally just trying to make people healthy, and you
1:21:28
Speaker 1: didn't realize like, oh no, no, no, no, they're trying to
1:21:31
Speaker 1: prop up the pharmaceutical drug cartel, and they're trying to
1:21:33
Speaker 1: make as much money as humanly possible, and the only
1:21:36
Speaker 1: way to do that is to force compliance, and so
1:21:38
Speaker 1: they will do whatever they can. They will keep you
1:21:40
Speaker 1: from flying, they'll keep you from driving, they'll keep it
1:21:42
Speaker 1: from going to school. You can't work if you have
1:21:44
Speaker 1: more than one hundred employees. Everyone has to get vaccinated.
1:21:47
Speaker 1: They were doing crazy shit where you're like, you guys
1:21:50
Speaker 1: are really going for it, and it worked. It worked
1:21:53
Speaker 1: for quite a while, but boy did it ruin young
1:21:56
Speaker 1: people's perspective of authority completely. Don't trust anybody anymore, and
1:22:01
Speaker 1: with good reason.
1:22:03
Speaker 2: Well, I think it damaged them most. Again, it's another
1:22:06
Speaker 2: negative for them. I mean, our National Health Service was
1:22:08
Speaker 2: forcing people to have the inject You had to work
1:22:10
Speaker 2: in the National Health Service, you had to have the jabs.
1:22:13
Speaker 1: And it didn't work.
1:22:14
Speaker 2: It didn't work. That's what's actually crazy. Actually worse than that, Joe,
1:22:17
Speaker 2: it didn't wait. Created major medical problems and I don't
1:22:21
Speaker 2: personally think we've seen the end of it yet. So
1:22:22
Speaker 2: I've got a lot of friends who are fit. They
1:22:24
Speaker 2: ended up having myocardieitis, having strokes, having heart attacks.
1:22:29
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, everybody knows somebody
1:22:31
Speaker 1: that has a horrible reaction to it, does Yeah, everyone,
1:22:35
Speaker 1: And to people that say they don't, I've had conversations
1:22:37
Speaker 1: with people I don't know anybody out of side effect,
1:22:39
Speaker 1: I'm like, fuck you for lying. There's no way that's
1:22:42
Speaker 1: possible unless you are the luckiest person in the world
1:22:46
Speaker 1: and you have an extremely small social circle, and out
1:22:49
Speaker 1: of that social circle, no one had a bad reaction,
1:22:52
Speaker 1: which is very unlikely unless that's true. Like you, you're
1:22:57
Speaker 1: just lying, and because you probably were supportive of the
1:23:01
Speaker 1: vaccine initially and you don't want to seem like you
1:23:03
Speaker 1: were on the wrong side of things.
1:23:05
Speaker 2: Well, I lost friends I don't know about you because
1:23:07
Speaker 2: I people said I hadn't been vaccinated, therefore I was
1:23:11
Speaker 2: a risk to their mom or their dad or their
1:23:13
Speaker 2: their granny. Yeah, I lost a bunch of people and
1:23:15
Speaker 2: I lost friends like that. But I mean in countries
1:23:18
Speaker 2: like India, you know they didn't have the job they
1:23:21
Speaker 2: had it they used ivermectin to a far, far greater extent,
1:23:24
Speaker 2: and that that was just as effective. I think I
1:23:28
Speaker 2: used to treat my it's a wormer. I mectin. I
1:23:32
Speaker 2: used to treat my cattle with ivermectin, but it worked,
1:23:36
Speaker 2: it worked well, and there were other there were other,
1:23:39
Speaker 2: I think treatments which worked far.
1:23:41
Speaker 1: Do you know what happened to me in America over ivermectin?
1:23:44
Speaker 1: Are you aware of that? CNN, like for days was
1:23:49
Speaker 1: running this hit piece on me saying that I was
1:23:52
Speaker 1: taking horsty wormer for COVID. It is, it is a work,
1:23:56
Speaker 1: yeah it is, but it's also you know, it's great
1:23:59
Speaker 1: for river blind news and dang gay fever and yeah,
1:24:01
Speaker 1: I mean it's one the Nobel Prize for Use in
1:24:04
Speaker 1: Human beings. And they were claiming on CNN that I
1:24:07
Speaker 1: was taking veterinary medicine. And they not only that, but
1:24:10
Speaker 1: they changed the color of my face. So they took
1:24:12
Speaker 1: a video. I was supposed to do a concert with
1:24:14
Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle that weekend in Nashville, and I had to
1:24:17
Speaker 1: make a video saying I'm sorry, but we have to
1:24:19
Speaker 1: cancel it because I got COVID. So I said I
1:24:21
Speaker 1: had COVID like two days ago. I was sick, but
1:24:24
Speaker 1: I'm fine now, And I explained all the stuff that
1:24:27
Speaker 1: my doctor threw the kitchen sink at it We took
1:24:29
Speaker 1: all these different things, and one of the things that
1:24:30
Speaker 1: I mentioned was ivermectin, and because of me mentioning that,
1:24:34
Speaker 1: I also said Monocolo antibody z pack. I talked about
1:24:38
Speaker 1: all the different ivy vitamins. I took a bunch of
1:24:40
Speaker 1: different stuff and I got better quick, and they took
1:24:43
Speaker 1: the video and changed the color of my face to
1:24:46
Speaker 1: make me look green on CNN.
1:24:49
Speaker 2: CNN, CNN's a good challenge.
1:24:52
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't know until I saw that.
1:24:55
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, like this is great. I was like,
1:24:58
Speaker 1: do I have to assue CNN? Like this is crazy?
1:25:00
Speaker 2: So is that Bill Harts here when you're talking about
1:25:03
Speaker 2: with the eyes the worm in the eyes? Is that
1:25:05
Speaker 2: the Bill Harts? So you get from the water in Africa,
1:25:08
Speaker 2: but river blindness.
1:25:09
Speaker 1: I do not know what.
1:25:11
Speaker 2: I think it's cool Bill Harts.
1:25:12
Speaker 1: I think I may be wrong, it might be right,
1:25:14
Speaker 1: but I know they also it's used to treat yellow
1:25:17
Speaker 1: fever than gay fever. It's used to treat a bunch
1:25:19
Speaker 1: of different things. But it you know, it also has
1:25:22
Speaker 1: anti viral properties that have been demonstrated, Like there's papers
1:25:26
Speaker 1: on it.
1:25:26
Speaker 2: And it's very cheap.
1:25:27
Speaker 1: Yes, but that's the problem. The problem is anybody can
1:25:32
Speaker 1: make it and you could buy it for like it's
1:25:33
Speaker 1: like a dollar a pill or something like. That's nothing. Yeah,
1:25:36
Speaker 1: And that was the real problem is that, like, if
1:25:39
Speaker 1: you want to have the emergency use authorization of a
1:25:41
Speaker 1: vaccine that hasn't gone through the safety protocols in America,
1:25:45
Speaker 1: you have to have no other medications that are available
1:25:49
Speaker 1: that can treat it. So the reason why they went
1:25:52
Speaker 1: after me on CNN was because clearly I was doing okay.
1:25:56
Speaker 1: It was three days later and I said I never
1:25:57
Speaker 1: got vaccinated, so here's all the stuff that I took. Now,
1:26:00
Speaker 1: I'm fine, And they went crazy, and it was this
1:26:03
Speaker 1: concerted campaign to try to destroy me. Neil Young took
1:26:07
Speaker 1: his music off Spotify because he said he was on
1:26:10
Speaker 1: sound because it said that he said that I was
1:26:11
Speaker 1: promoting vaccine misinformation, and he probably believed that. He probably
1:26:15
Speaker 1: did believe that, but he didn't know what the fuck
1:26:17
Speaker 1: he was talking about. He's just he's another old boomer
1:26:19
Speaker 1: that just watches the news.
1:26:20
Speaker 2: Yes, I did used to like his music when I
1:26:23
Speaker 2: was in school. I still love it still, I still listen.
1:26:25
Speaker 1: I don't care. I mean, I even told a story
1:26:28
Speaker 1: when I made the video about how when I was
1:26:30
Speaker 1: at a Neil Young concert while I was working at
1:26:33
Speaker 1: a Neil Young concert actually when I was nineteen, and
1:26:35
Speaker 1: that was the last day on the job because a
1:26:37
Speaker 1: riot broke out, and I was like, I'm a huge
1:26:39
Speaker 1: No Young fan, Like, I don't care. He just doesn't know.
1:26:41
Speaker 1: He's someone told him this, or he really thinks he's
1:26:44
Speaker 1: doing the right thing by removing his music, Like okay,
1:26:47
Speaker 1: but what you're doing is you're supporting this machine that
1:26:49
Speaker 1: is lying to be telling people the only way to
1:26:51
Speaker 1: get through this is to get vaccinated, when in fact,
1:26:54
Speaker 1: there's really like Udo Pradesh in India where it was
1:26:58
Speaker 1: just very low instances of COVID fatality. All of it
1:27:01
Speaker 1: was through ivermectin. They had amazing success with just ivermectin.
1:27:07
Speaker 2: But again, I think the state knows that it's caused damage.
1:27:10
Speaker 2: I just don't think they can admit it at the moment.
1:27:12
Speaker 1: No, they're not going to admit. They're never going to admit.
1:27:14
Speaker 1: They just gloss over it and move on. And some
1:27:16
Speaker 1: of the same people that were promoting that shit on
1:27:18
Speaker 1: the news, they still deny it. They still deny and
1:27:20
Speaker 1: they've lost debates like Chris Cromo got destroyed by my
1:27:23
Speaker 1: buddy Dave Smith because of it. Like they're in denial
1:27:25
Speaker 1: of like the things that they were actually saying.
1:27:28
Speaker 2: It's like fluorine in water and folic acid in bread
1:27:31
Speaker 2: and all this all that shit. It's all yeah, I
1:27:34
Speaker 2: mean it's it's it's sort of man getting high in
1:27:37
Speaker 2: his own supply, isn't it.
1:27:38
Speaker 1: Well, it's also a business. That's the real problem is
1:27:41
Speaker 1: that there's lobbies in this country that you know, they
1:27:46
Speaker 1: want to continue making money the same way they've been
1:27:48
Speaker 1: making money. And one of the ways they do it
1:27:51
Speaker 1: in America is they advertise on the networks. So the
1:27:55
Speaker 1: pharmaceutical drug companies all advertise on all these networks, the
1:28:00
Speaker 1: enormous part of the advertising budget. I know in England
1:28:02
Speaker 1: that's not legal, and it's only legal in America and
1:28:05
Speaker 1: in New Zealand. Those are the only two countries that
1:28:07
Speaker 1: allow pharmaceutical drug companies to advertise on television. But what
1:28:11
Speaker 1: it effectively does is it stops all criticism of any
1:28:15
Speaker 1: side effects. There's no stories on heart attacks, there's no
1:28:18
Speaker 1: stories on strokes, no stories on milecarditists. Now, if they
1:28:22
Speaker 1: weren't advertising and then someone was making money off of
1:28:26
Speaker 1: something that was killing people.
1:28:28
Speaker 2: That's the news. Yep, the news would be all over it.
1:28:31
Speaker 1: But they have effectively ruined their own reputation by turning
1:28:35
Speaker 1: a blind eye on something that everybody knows.
1:28:38
Speaker 2: But do you think they're turning a blind eye? I
1:28:39
Speaker 2: think they know. I think they know, but they content
1:28:42
Speaker 2: ad message.
1:28:42
Speaker 1: Well, the people, the individuals most certainly must know someone
1:28:46
Speaker 1: who got something from COVID, from the COVID shots, someone
1:28:51
Speaker 1: you know, someone who had a stroke, you know someone
1:28:53
Speaker 1: who's got a neurological condition. I know way too many
1:28:56
Speaker 1: people for you to not know anybody. I have two
1:28:59
Speaker 1: people that I know that peacemakers. Now there's a lot
1:29:02
Speaker 1: of weird, horrible side effects that happened from that. If
1:29:06
Speaker 1: you don't know anybody that had one, I don't believe you.
1:29:08
Speaker 2: Well, I know loads. I mean, my sister in law
1:29:11
Speaker 2: had my carditis. I've had a friend, My best friend
1:29:15
Speaker 2: had a stroke literally a week after having the JAB.
1:29:19
Speaker 2: People have had problems with heart, a rhythmia, yea, all
1:29:23
Speaker 2: sorts of stuff, and there's been some issues with blood too.
1:29:27
Speaker 2: So look, I think, as usual, money probably goes to
1:29:30
Speaker 2: the root of it. Joe absolutely and We had something
1:29:34
Speaker 2: in the Britain called the Nudge Team, which basically was
1:29:36
Speaker 2: I mean, how the government thought that was okay. It's
1:29:38
Speaker 2: a bit like when I was in football people hacking
1:29:40
Speaker 2: my phone and thought that was okay. But with the
1:29:42
Speaker 2: Nudge Team, it was to nudge people into accepting the lockdown,
1:29:46
Speaker 2: and it was effectively very clever manipulation of the population.
1:29:52
Speaker 2: So look, I mean, you can't believe that the state
1:29:55
Speaker 2: thinks that's okay, but they did.
1:29:58
Speaker 1: They did, Yeah, they did, and they did in America
1:30:00
Speaker 1: for depending on which city you were in, to various extents,
1:30:06
Speaker 1: varying extents. The California was bad. It was real bad.
1:30:09
Speaker 1: I mean they closed down all the comedy clubs, They
1:30:12
Speaker 1: lost seventy percent of all the restaurants in Los Angeles.
1:30:15
Speaker 1: I mean it's crazy.
1:30:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, nice to live California, though, I like, it's a
1:30:19
Speaker 2: great place to live California.
1:30:21
Speaker 1: That's why people still tolerated. I mean, if if California
1:30:23
Speaker 1: had the weather of Seattle would be empty, it would,
1:30:27
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's like, the reason why
1:30:29
Speaker 1: people are still there is because God, it's so amazing
1:30:31
Speaker 1: and there's so many cool people there and it's so nice.
1:30:33
Speaker 1: And the weather's incredible, and the views and you could
1:30:36
Speaker 1: beat the ocean, and then two hours later you're in
1:30:38
Speaker 1: the mountains. I mean, it's an amazing place.
1:30:40
Speaker 2: It's an amazing place. So I went filled with dumbasses.
1:30:43
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:30:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was socialist. Unfortunately it's been permeated socialism.
1:30:47
Speaker 1: That and grifters, grifters pretending to be socialists. They were
1:30:50
Speaker 1: essentially those people with the wolf with the sheep wrapped
1:30:54
Speaker 1: around them. That's a large Yeah, that's a large portion
1:30:57
Speaker 1: of the government in Los Angeles and a large portion
1:31:00
Speaker 1: of the government of California in general. And the way
1:31:02
Speaker 1: you know this is how wealthy those fucking people are
1:31:04
Speaker 1: and how it doesn't make sense how they're so wealthy.
1:31:07
Speaker 1: You're making how much a year and you're worth how much?
1:31:10
Speaker 2: Crime?
1:31:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, crime, they're doing crime. Well, do you One of
1:31:14
Speaker 1: the things that happened very recently is they just announced
1:31:17
Speaker 1: that the governor of California, one of the people on
1:31:21
Speaker 1: his staff had been wearing a wire for over a year.
1:31:25
Speaker 1: Did you see that story, Jamie?
1:31:27
Speaker 2: You never know.
1:31:29
Speaker 1: What's that? Well no, no, I don't know what they
1:31:32
Speaker 1: got either, But this lady had been see if you
1:31:35
Speaker 1: can find it, what says, but she had been wearing
1:31:37
Speaker 1: a wire. She's working for the Gavin Newsom organization. Yeah,
1:31:42
Speaker 1: and she was working for the administration, and she was
1:31:45
Speaker 1: wearing a wire for the FBI because they had been
1:31:47
Speaker 1: investigating him. And this was during the Biden administration. They
1:31:51
Speaker 1: started this, So they started this in twenty twenty four.
1:31:54
Speaker 1: If they're investigating him, it's supposed to be like they
1:31:56
Speaker 1: must know that something bad, real shit is going down.
1:31:59
Speaker 1: FBI infiltrated Gavin Newsom's inner circle by convincing Governor's ally
1:32:03
Speaker 1: to wear a wire. Yeah. Not good.
1:32:07
Speaker 2: Not good. But I think it's the same in Chicago.
1:32:10
Speaker 2: You've got some pretty bad spots. San Francisco, I think
1:32:14
Speaker 2: is not good.
1:32:15
Speaker 1: It's a lot of people that are profiting off of
1:32:17
Speaker 1: this idea that you know, the government should be taking
1:32:21
Speaker 1: care of everybody and you should be making all this
1:32:22
Speaker 1: money from taxes. And then you know, California spent twenty
1:32:26
Speaker 1: four billion dollars on the homeless and it just got worse.
1:32:29
Speaker 1: It is like so that now it's an industry. Now
1:32:31
Speaker 1: you have this homeless. Taking care of the homeless is
1:32:33
Speaker 1: now an industry, and there's people on the Homeless Industry
1:32:37
Speaker 1: Board that are making hundreds of thousands of dollars a year,
1:32:39
Speaker 1: and it's like, what are we doing.
1:32:41
Speaker 2: It's the same with compliance, it's the same with as
1:32:44
Speaker 2: you say, DEI. Yeah, there's a whole industry and people
1:32:47
Speaker 2: making vast amounts of money on you know, compliants DEI
1:32:51
Speaker 2: basically wealth creation, which ultimately strips personal responsibility and tries
1:32:58
Speaker 2: to imbue everybody with a very sort of maligned philosophy,
1:33:02
Speaker 2: which which is very damaging to under the.
1:33:04
Speaker 1: Guise of being inclusive.
1:33:06
Speaker 2: Correct.
1:33:06
Speaker 1: And also you're getting wealthy. How many people from these
1:33:10
Speaker 1: nonprofits are getting enormously wealthy, Like this is insane, And
1:33:15
Speaker 1: that was one of the things that USA clearly uncovered.
1:33:18
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if you've ever seen Mike
1:33:19
Speaker 1: Benz and some of his takes on it.
1:33:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was shocking. I couldn't believe it.
1:33:24
Speaker 1: There's so many hours of it. It's almost like there's
1:33:26
Speaker 1: too much information to digest.
1:33:28
Speaker 2: You.
1:33:29
Speaker 1: I could listen to like an hour of it. It's like,
1:33:31
Speaker 1: I gotta stop because I just don't know when this ends.
1:33:34
Speaker 1: I'm not even absorbing this. I'm just so flabbergasted by
1:33:37
Speaker 1: the extent of the corruption, the amount of money that's
1:33:40
Speaker 1: gone to fraud and possibly waste over the years is
1:33:44
Speaker 1: just staggering.
1:33:46
Speaker 2: But it also went all over the world, didn't It
1:33:49
Speaker 2: was it was a philosophy and a poor philosophy that
1:33:53
Speaker 2: was being exported to other countries and particularly the Britain.
1:33:57
Speaker 2: I mean, we have a present call Rory Stewart. His
1:33:59
Speaker 2: wife was being funded by some of this stuff which
1:34:02
Speaker 2: got shut down. Did they shut the whole thing down?
1:34:05
Speaker 2: They they leave a remnant of it.
1:34:07
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly how much they've left, but essentially
1:34:09
Speaker 1: it's been shut down. Of course, if there was ever
1:34:13
Speaker 1: a Democrat that got elected president in twenty twenty eight,
1:34:16
Speaker 1: they would probably start that bitch right back up, open
1:34:18
Speaker 1: the borders, right back up, business as usual.
1:34:21
Speaker 2: That would not be good jet.
1:34:22
Speaker 1: No. It seems like there's there was a desire to
1:34:26
Speaker 1: move people into blue states and then eventually get them
1:34:30
Speaker 1: on social assistance and then get them to become citizens,
1:34:34
Speaker 1: and then you have guaranteed voters because they you want
1:34:38
Speaker 1: to continue this right, you want to continue living like this,
1:34:40
Speaker 1: so this is the way, and then you would just
1:34:41
Speaker 1: completely take over the presidential elections. And I think they
1:34:45
Speaker 1: were trying to do that. This is Elon's perspective, and
1:34:47
Speaker 1: I think he's right, and you know, he's obviously much
1:34:50
Speaker 1: more aware of the problem in terms of like the
1:34:53
Speaker 1: extent that USAID was involved and these nonprofits and NGOs
1:34:57
Speaker 1: were involved. It seems like there was a concerted aft
1:35:00
Speaker 1: for it to do this, and it's disturbing.
1:35:02
Speaker 2: But again, a lack of respect for tax taxpayer funds
1:35:06
Speaker 2: completely what we have in the UK. I mean, we
1:35:08
Speaker 2: need your help at the moment you've got at least
1:35:11
Speaker 2: you're making a stab at returning to some form of
1:35:13
Speaker 2: normality for now.
1:35:15
Speaker 1: But if we don't fuck it, I mean, we might
1:35:17
Speaker 1: have sucked it up by going Iran. I mean, this
1:35:20
Speaker 1: war is not something anybody that's conservative wanted. Most people
1:35:23
Speaker 1: don't want it except supporters of Israel. They're the only
1:35:26
Speaker 1: people that seem to be thinking it's a good idea.
1:35:29
Speaker 1: In this country. Most people are horrified by the idea.
1:35:32
Speaker 1: Because Trump was elected. One of the pillars that he
1:35:36
Speaker 1: stood for apparently was that he doesn't want any more wars.
1:35:39
Speaker 2: But he was I came out against it on the
1:35:42
Speaker 2: basis for us of rail politique, which is it wasn't
1:35:44
Speaker 2: in the interests of the British nation. And I think
1:35:47
Speaker 2: again most of these leaders should put the interests of
1:35:51
Speaker 2: their tax paying public first. And there's only a reason
1:35:55
Speaker 2: to go to war if it's going to benefit you.
1:35:58
Speaker 2: It was difficult to see what the benefit it was,
1:36:01
Speaker 2: although I think Iran is a sort of malevolent state
1:36:06
Speaker 2: and it is spreading very bad philosophy across Obviously, you know,
1:36:11
Speaker 2: you've got his Bola in Lebanon, and then we've got
1:36:15
Speaker 2: ham Ass causing a problem. So I think I think
1:36:18
Speaker 2: they are a problem, but certainly from our point of view.
1:36:21
Speaker 2: I mean, you're you're you're the only country with a
1:36:23
Speaker 2: with the ability to do anything about it. I mean
1:36:25
Speaker 2: we we we had one warship which which which which
1:36:29
Speaker 2: didn't work properly when it was sent out to help.
1:36:31
Speaker 2: So I mean, goodness knows we you know, we've spent
1:36:34
Speaker 2: all our money on welfare and not enough money on defense.
1:36:38
Speaker 2: So now we need we need help. And I think
1:36:42
Speaker 2: to your point, Elon Musk has been to my mind,
1:36:46
Speaker 2: incredibly helpful in restoring free speech. Because Starmer and and
1:36:52
Speaker 2: these Fabians Fabian pabloist all day in society, as I
1:36:56
Speaker 2: call them, they're sort of all. They're all they've all
1:36:58
Speaker 2: got this malign philosophy. And I think what giving us
1:37:02
Speaker 2: free speech has done is it stopped them crushing the
1:37:06
Speaker 2: spirit of those people who do want to debate, who
1:37:09
Speaker 2: do want to discuss, who do want to get at
1:37:10
Speaker 2: the truth.
1:37:11
Speaker 1: Wherever they've done so much to stop free speech with
1:37:14
Speaker 1: all these arrests, it's extraordinary because they've also they've incentivized
1:37:17
Speaker 1: people to keep their mouths shut because no one wants
1:37:19
Speaker 1: to be in trouble.
1:37:20
Speaker 2: Well, it's two tier policing. You've got to your point
1:37:24
Speaker 2: about you know that the Palestinian marches are tolerated, whereas
1:37:28
Speaker 2: any form of Tommy Robinson march and Tommy Robinson in
1:37:32
Speaker 2: the UK, he's deeply disliked by the establishment. I give
1:37:38
Speaker 2: him credit for what he did again on the grooming
1:37:40
Speaker 2: gangs in two thousand and three. He was warning about
1:37:43
Speaker 2: this in two thousand and three in Luton.
1:37:45
Speaker 1: Not only that, I remember people dismissing that in two
1:37:48
Speaker 1: thousand and three or four, whenever it was when I
1:37:51
Speaker 1: first heard about it, they were talking about him this
1:37:54
Speaker 1: is horrible far right extremist, and that he was making
1:37:59
Speaker 1: up the stories about these grooming gangs and rape gangs.
1:38:03
Speaker 1: I remember hearing that. I remember not knowing, like is
1:38:06
Speaker 1: what's accurate here? Like what's going on?
1:38:08
Speaker 2: Well, I think the accuracy is that he was right.
1:38:11
Speaker 2: The establishment didn't want to admit it because if we're right, well,
1:38:16
Speaker 2: I think we are right about their multicultural post war experiment.
1:38:20
Speaker 2: They realized it was failing because you can't justify the
1:38:25
Speaker 2: sort of abuse and grooming of the most vulnerable people
1:38:28
Speaker 2: in your society by people who've come into the country.
1:38:32
Speaker 2: They should be treated equally under the law. A rape
1:38:35
Speaker 2: is a rape. It doesn't matter whether it's perpetrated by
1:38:37
Speaker 2: somebody is from a Muslim country or a Christian country.
1:38:41
Speaker 2: Rape is rape and it should be treated the same.
1:38:43
Speaker 1: What would you do to stop this? Imagine if you
1:38:47
Speaker 1: got into power right now, what would you do to
1:38:50
Speaker 1: put a stop to that.
1:38:51
Speaker 2: But we have to root it out and we have
1:38:53
Speaker 2: to stop itply the law that the law of our
1:38:57
Speaker 2: land to the people who are perpetrating it. The problem
1:39:01
Speaker 2: is the police have institutionally been been taught that they
1:39:04
Speaker 2: are racist. And we had Stephen Lawrence killing which was
1:39:09
Speaker 2: which was didn't reflect well in the UK, but the
1:39:11
Speaker 2: response to it has created this fear of being being
1:39:15
Speaker 2: being called a racist, which is the Stephen Lawrence, Steven Lawrence.
1:39:18
Speaker 2: I think it was it was late nineties. He was
1:39:20
Speaker 2: he was he was stabbed by some sort of British miscreants.
1:39:26
Speaker 2: And where was he from he died? He was it
1:39:28
Speaker 2: was in London.
1:39:29
Speaker 1: Where was Stephen Lawrence from?
1:39:31
Speaker 2: Where he was? He was a black? A black case.
1:39:33
Speaker 1: So it's a racial crime.
1:39:34
Speaker 2: He was a racial hate crime. And this is and
1:39:37
Speaker 2: it was blown up. And again you find that the
1:39:39
Speaker 2: racial hate crime involving any white people is now blown up,
1:39:42
Speaker 2: whereas the more, the very often and increasingly common acts
1:39:48
Speaker 2: against the indigenous white people are hushed up as much
1:39:51
Speaker 2: as they possibly can be.
1:39:52
Speaker 1: That's a funny thing to say indigenous white people. Yeah,
1:39:56
Speaker 1: and what I mean it is real for England. But
1:39:58
Speaker 1: I mean nobody thinks about that. In a America. You
1:40:00
Speaker 1: would never say, like indigenous way people, well we we
1:40:03
Speaker 1: we do have an identity show of course, is the
1:40:06
Speaker 1: reason why everyone's paid.
1:40:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we do. We do have an identity.
1:40:10
Speaker 2: But is indigenous As I say, we've been very torrant
1:40:14
Speaker 2: of people who needed help. We let them into the
1:40:16
Speaker 2: country and on the whole they have integrated and they
1:40:18
Speaker 2: have contributed, right, And I have no problem with that.
1:40:21
Speaker 2: Like you, I'm absolutely in favor of that right.
1:40:23
Speaker 1: The only problem is the people that aren't integrating.
1:40:25
Speaker 2: If people don't want to come and live and integrate
1:40:28
Speaker 2: and contribute, then they shouldn't come. They should they should
1:40:31
Speaker 2: remain their own Country's.
1:40:32
Speaker 1: Also the idea of incentivizing people to illegally migrate to
1:40:36
Speaker 1: your country is just pure insanity. Yeah, you're going to
1:40:39
Speaker 1: run out of money, and you're also putting a birding
1:40:41
Speaker 1: on these taxpayers for no reason whatsoever. It's a bad
1:40:44
Speaker 1: use of their tax dollars.
1:40:46
Speaker 2: But in our immigration document we put forward, you know,
1:40:48
Speaker 2: the case for is basically a hostile environment. We don't
1:40:52
Speaker 2: want to be handing out welfare. We don't want to
1:40:56
Speaker 2: be encouraging people to come. We want to create a
1:40:59
Speaker 2: hostile environment and encourage people to go unless they're contributing,
1:41:03
Speaker 2: to go back to their own country and live there,
1:41:06
Speaker 2: particularly if they don't like our culture and our laws
1:41:08
Speaker 2: and they don't respect us and they think we're the infidel.
1:41:11
Speaker 1: But do laws exist that would allow you to deport
1:41:15
Speaker 1: those people.
1:41:16
Speaker 2: Well, you'd have to repeal. So that's why that's why
1:41:19
Speaker 2: it's so important we win an overall majority in parliament.
1:41:22
Speaker 2: By twenty nine, because then we can repeal a lot
1:41:25
Speaker 2: of this legislation, which will then empower the nation's state again.
1:41:30
Speaker 1: So this is the legislation that provides healthcare, dental welfare, housing.
1:41:37
Speaker 2: This is legislation largely passed by Tony Blair and his acolytes.
1:41:41
Speaker 1: And this was all just to encourage mass migration.
1:41:44
Speaker 2: I think it was to encourage this mass immigration and
1:41:48
Speaker 2: make it very difficult to stop it. Practically. Interestingly, he's
1:41:52
Speaker 2: quite crafted, because he came out the other day trying
1:41:55
Speaker 2: to distance himself from a lot of the things that
1:41:58
Speaker 2: he has actually created. So he's he's quite a canny
1:42:02
Speaker 2: old fox. And he does look he looks a bit
1:42:05
Speaker 2: like Beelzebub these days. I mean he's got this white
1:42:07
Speaker 2: hair and these piercing sort of eyes. I can't help
1:42:11
Speaker 2: look at him and think of evil, but look so
1:42:14
Speaker 2: he Ultimately, I think him and his team realize what
1:42:19
Speaker 2: they realized what they were doing, and he had he
1:42:21
Speaker 2: had it was all done through the law. You have
1:42:24
Speaker 2: to do. In a country that believes in the rule
1:42:26
Speaker 2: of law, the only way to change it is through
1:42:29
Speaker 2: control of parliament. So you have to do it top
1:42:33
Speaker 2: down through the parliamentary system, so you can repeal the
1:42:36
Speaker 2: laws and you can pass the laws you want to
1:42:38
Speaker 2: pass to and empower the nation state. And at the
1:42:41
Speaker 2: same time, which we're doing, you need to start controlling
1:42:44
Speaker 2: local government as well, because local government's gone badly wrong
1:42:47
Speaker 2: and a lot of the failures from the rape gang
1:42:50
Speaker 2: inquiry weren't just the national government. You had failure at
1:42:54
Speaker 2: local government as well.
1:42:55
Speaker 1: So are the local government wilfully ignorant? Are they denying
1:42:59
Speaker 1: as exists in the case fighting people on it?
1:43:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, in the case of labor, that they've enabled it.
1:43:05
Speaker 2: You know, they I say, I can't see how anybody
1:43:09
Speaker 2: can ever vote labor again after they've read this report,
1:43:11
Speaker 2: because labor has clearly enabled this, both at national level
1:43:15
Speaker 2: by denying what's been going on and at local level
1:43:20
Speaker 2: where you have local government. So it happens mainly in
1:43:23
Speaker 2: labor controlled areas. You've got people denying completely that this
1:43:28
Speaker 2: has been happening, whereas we know it's happening. We have
1:43:31
Speaker 2: people like Sammy Woodhouse as a victim of it, who
1:43:33
Speaker 2: had a child by her rapist. So ultimately, local government
1:43:40
Speaker 2: has to be controlled from the bottom up, and we
1:43:42
Speaker 2: started that process. We won nine out of nine county
1:43:46
Speaker 2: council seats in Norfolk. So my constituency is on the
1:43:50
Speaker 2: coast in England, so it's a coastal constituency. Been very
1:43:54
Speaker 2: badly served by the post war elite. So the fishermen
1:43:57
Speaker 2: in England have been sold down the river a largely
1:44:00
Speaker 2: to the European fishermen as part of the membership of
1:44:03
Speaker 2: the EU. So Norfolk is a county on the east coast.
1:44:08
Speaker 2: It's got rich farmland and farming is my passion. I
1:44:12
Speaker 2: love farming, I absolutely it's my hobby and I love it.
1:44:16
Speaker 2: So at the end of the day, we have to
1:44:18
Speaker 2: control local government and change it bottom up, and we
1:44:21
Speaker 2: have to then get control of national government and change
1:44:24
Speaker 2: it top down. I would imagine if we can do that, Joe,
1:44:26
Speaker 2: I truly think if we can, I truly think we
1:44:29
Speaker 2: can release the spirit of the British people, and I
1:44:32
Speaker 2: think they want it, but they've got to show, They've
1:44:34
Speaker 2: got to show to the ballot box that that's what
1:44:35
Speaker 2: they want.
1:44:36
Speaker 1: I'd imagine there's going to be an enormous amount of
1:44:38
Speaker 1: resistance to this kind of huge change.
1:44:42
Speaker 2: From organized crime, which I think we're now in the
1:44:44
Speaker 2: hands of, from a corrupt judiciary, from a police force
1:44:48
Speaker 2: that's gone wrong, from local government's gone wrong. The NHS
1:44:52
Speaker 2: has gone wrong again. It's a state monopoly and its
1:44:56
Speaker 2: original function I think has been subverted. So you've got
1:45:03
Speaker 2: everything to your point. The education system is wrong. So
1:45:06
Speaker 2: there's a lot of change that needs to happen. But
1:45:09
Speaker 2: I think fundamentally the electorate you saw them in twenty
1:45:13
Speaker 2: sixteen vote to take back their sovereignty. The government wrote
1:45:16
Speaker 2: a letter to all the households in the UK recommending
1:45:21
Speaker 2: they vote to remain in the European Union. This is
1:45:24
Speaker 2: David Cameron, but actually the British people didn't. They voted
1:45:27
Speaker 2: to leave, and they didn't do it I think for
1:45:30
Speaker 2: financial reasons. They did it because they wanted their country back,
1:45:33
Speaker 2: they wanted their sovereignty back, they wanted an accountable parliament
1:45:36
Speaker 2: in Westminster. And some of our problems emanate from the
1:45:39
Speaker 2: fact that Tony Blair's reforms have undermined our parliament. So
1:45:44
Speaker 2: our parliament is supposed to be omnipotent. It's supposed to
1:45:47
Speaker 2: be completely contain the elected representatives of the people. So
1:45:52
Speaker 2: parliament is supposed to be right at the top of
1:45:55
Speaker 2: the chain. But what's happened is it's been undermined by
1:45:58
Speaker 2: these quangos that Tony Blair set up, which is effectively
1:46:01
Speaker 2: created at the life of the rent, so the Supreme Court,
1:46:04
Speaker 2: and literally there are hundreds of these quangos that now
1:46:07
Speaker 2: employ unelected people.
1:46:10
Speaker 1: What's that word quango or.
1:46:12
Speaker 2: Quango is like a quasi national government organization, so they
1:46:17
Speaker 2: are you know, you've got all sorts of bodies, you know,
1:46:21
Speaker 2: the sort of oas standards board. You've got loads of
1:46:25
Speaker 2: bodies which now prevail. You know, you've got bodies on
1:46:29
Speaker 2: almost everything, which which again have flourished since Tony Blair's legislation.
1:46:33
Speaker 2: Prior to that, power lay with Parliament. So that's why
1:46:39
Speaker 2: they've been able to control a lot of what goes
1:46:41
Speaker 2: on because the two party system, the Blues and the Reds,
1:46:45
Speaker 2: the tourism and labor basically have tried to outcompete each other.
1:46:50
Speaker 2: So the entire parliament Blair took it, left, Cameron emulated
1:46:55
Speaker 2: Blair and you didn't actually get proper conservative thought to
1:47:01
Speaker 2: change a lot of this stuff that was wrong. So
1:47:04
Speaker 2: I think, I think, I think this is an opportunity,
1:47:08
Speaker 2: and I think it's our last opportunity, and I and
1:47:11
Speaker 2: all the help we can get from from you, guys.
1:47:13
Speaker 2: I mean we made a bad mistake in letting you
1:47:16
Speaker 2: declare your independence, which you're celebrating tomorrow in the first place.
1:47:20
Speaker 2: Had we had we played our cards better, I think
1:47:22
Speaker 2: you'd still be it should should still be part of
1:47:24
Speaker 2: part of it's worked out for not so well. Sorry,
1:47:30
Speaker 2: but I think we're better off. But I do want
1:47:32
Speaker 2: to see I do want to see otherwise. Well, I
1:47:36
Speaker 2: do want to see the Anglo Saxon world support each other.
1:47:39
Speaker 2: I think there's not enough of that. We're too fragmented.
1:47:42
Speaker 2: There's too much sort of whether it's the World Economic Forums,
1:47:46
Speaker 2: I said, what what what, whatever the reason, there's too
1:47:48
Speaker 2: much fragmentation and too much undermining of of this cohesive
1:47:54
Speaker 2: Anglo Saxon world, which, let's face it, is the reason
1:47:57
Speaker 2: why we all have individual freedom, because, as we said earlier,
1:48:00
Speaker 2: individual freedom is incredibly fragile. We could lose it at
1:48:04
Speaker 2: any minuture.
1:48:05
Speaker 1: I mean the society that you know, the way we
1:48:08
Speaker 1: look at America, when people look at it the right way,
1:48:12
Speaker 1: or when people are proud of America, they look at
1:48:14
Speaker 1: it as a place where anybody can come and achieve
1:48:17
Speaker 1: your dreams. And it doesn't mean only white people doesn't
1:48:22
Speaker 1: mean only black, It just means Americans. We're supposed to
1:48:24
Speaker 1: be a community, a team, you know, and the fact
1:48:27
Speaker 1: that we're a melting pot, that we're not like you know,
1:48:30
Speaker 1: indigenous white people like England is part of the fun
1:48:32
Speaker 1: of it all that everyone's welcome, just come over here
1:48:36
Speaker 1: and do your thing and follow the rules. But the
1:48:40
Speaker 1: problem with this country is the problem with any country.
1:48:43
Speaker 1: When you're being run by people that are completely corrupt,
1:48:46
Speaker 1: and you're being run by people that are influenced by
1:48:49
Speaker 1: enormous corporations that don't care about the people, that only
1:48:52
Speaker 1: care about the bottom line, how much money they're making
1:48:55
Speaker 1: and how do they rig things. And then you have
1:48:58
Speaker 1: politicians that are making one hundred and seventy thousand dollars
1:49:00
Speaker 1: a year, but they's somehow worth four hundred million dollars
1:49:02
Speaker 1: and no one questions it. No one's in jail. The
1:49:05
Speaker 1: whole thing is bonkers, And it's just you're always going
1:49:07
Speaker 1: to have crooks, and you got to hold them off.
1:49:10
Speaker 1: You gotta hold them off as much as possible. When
1:49:12
Speaker 1: you recognize they're in you got to do a cleaning.
1:49:14
Speaker 1: You got to clean house. You gotta clean house and
1:49:16
Speaker 1: get rid of them. If you don't, you're just gonna
1:49:18
Speaker 1: have the problems. It's gonna get worse because they're going
1:49:20
Speaker 1: to figure out. Okay, it's just like antibiotics when you
1:49:23
Speaker 1: don't take the full round and the stuff doesn't really
1:49:25
Speaker 1: go out of your saying no, well, now you got
1:49:26
Speaker 1: medication resistant bacteria. Congratulations, your medication has made the bacteria worse.
1:49:33
Speaker 1: So if you fight off the corruption a little bit
1:49:36
Speaker 1: and then you stop, they go, oh, well we got
1:49:38
Speaker 1: a we were close, we almost figured it all out
1:49:41
Speaker 1: and got it all rigged. But now we've got to
1:49:44
Speaker 1: make sure that we lock people down and have even
1:49:46
Speaker 1: more laws and even more restrictions.
1:49:48
Speaker 2: And you've summed up what we need to do in
1:49:52
Speaker 2: the UK very well. I mean we are I think
1:49:54
Speaker 2: in the hands of organized crime. I think a lot
1:49:56
Speaker 2: of the institutions that we had previously have become rotten.
1:50:00
Speaker 1: I think it's the right way to recognize it too.
1:50:02
Speaker 2: It's in the and to your point, you know, we
1:50:05
Speaker 2: do need to now punish people who've let us down.
1:50:07
Speaker 1: It's crime. It really is crime, and to just pretend,
1:50:11
Speaker 1: because it's been going on for so long and that
1:50:13
Speaker 1: it's business as usual, that it's not a crime like, no,
1:50:16
Speaker 1: it's crime. It's crime, it's just somehow another crime that's
1:50:19
Speaker 1: tolerated well.
1:50:21
Speaker 2: Letting down people who've elected you and given their trust
1:50:25
Speaker 2: to you is a massive crime.
1:50:28
Speaker 1: It's not just letting down betraying that.
1:50:31
Speaker 2: I mean, we have the same as you, but to
1:50:33
Speaker 2: a lesser extent, because you've obviously got far more wealth
1:50:35
Speaker 2: in us. But you see these officials who end up
1:50:39
Speaker 2: becoming rich, and you wonder how they do it. And
1:50:43
Speaker 2: they're on salaries and they're taxed heavily, and yet they
1:50:46
Speaker 2: always seem to flourish. They never seem to be short
1:50:48
Speaker 2: of money. So I and I look at our judiciary,
1:50:51
Speaker 2: which is again now a quango. The judges are no
1:50:56
Speaker 2: longer appointed by Parliament, they're appointed by this word quango.
1:51:00
Speaker 2: And I had an issue in parliament. You know, I
1:51:04
Speaker 2: challenged Parliament because to the point where I've been saying
1:51:08
Speaker 2: we need to return power to Parliament. They have this
1:51:12
Speaker 2: body called the ICGs Independent Complaint Agreement Scheme. And in
1:51:18
Speaker 2: Parliament we have this system called parliamentary privilege. So I
1:51:21
Speaker 2: can speak on the floor of the House and I
1:51:23
Speaker 2: can't be sued for lif but you can say whatever
1:51:25
Speaker 2: you want that's the essence of free speech in the
1:51:28
Speaker 2: Chamber of the Commons. Now this body has actually been
1:51:32
Speaker 2: expressly taken outside Parliament. And the case I had against
1:51:37
Speaker 2: them was they tried to say I couldn't. I caught
1:51:39
Speaker 2: them doing something I thought was wrong and I wanted
1:51:41
Speaker 2: to take them to court. They said, you can't take
1:51:44
Speaker 2: us to court because we're parliamentary privileged, even though it
1:51:46
Speaker 2: doesn't it's not the chamber, it's not an MP speaking,
1:51:50
Speaker 2: it's got no MPs on this committee. It doesn't report
1:51:52
Speaker 2: to a parliamentary committee. And yet the judge found they
1:51:56
Speaker 2: had parliamentary privilege didn't address the questions. This is how,
1:52:01
Speaker 2: this is how the elected Assembly has been undermined, and
1:52:04
Speaker 2: this is what we have to We have to return
1:52:06
Speaker 2: power to the elected representatives of the people.
1:52:09
Speaker 1: There's also another thing that Britain has done recently that's
1:52:13
Speaker 1: very disturbing, which is eliminate jury trials.
1:52:16
Speaker 2: For they're trying to do that, trying to do that.
1:52:19
Speaker 1: So it's not fit, it's not established it.
1:52:21
Speaker 2: They haven't yet done it because there is there are
1:52:25
Speaker 2: still a few decent labor MPs who fought against it.
1:52:30
Speaker 2: But again I think that's all a manifestation of organized
1:52:34
Speaker 2: crime because if you control the judges, of course, and
1:52:38
Speaker 2: you and you can force more and more people through
1:52:41
Speaker 2: a judge system rather than a jury system. And so
1:52:46
Speaker 2: for libel trials. I fought a libel trial when I
1:52:49
Speaker 2: was in football against the The Times, which is Rupert
1:52:53
Speaker 2: Murdock's paper. And you know, I think I had my
1:52:57
Speaker 2: phones hacked, and I fought a libel trial against them.
1:53:01
Speaker 1: So that newspaper hacked your phone.
1:53:02
Speaker 2: They had when I was in football, they were hacking
1:53:04
Speaker 2: my phone every day.
1:53:05
Speaker 1: Wow, how would they do it?
1:53:07
Speaker 2: Listening in through my voicemails? How they do it? And
1:53:09
Speaker 2: then they can blag a number from the voicemail and
1:53:11
Speaker 2: start listening. So if you called me and left a message,
1:53:13
Speaker 2: they could blag your number off my phone. And they
1:53:16
Speaker 2: thought this was okay. These were national newspapers. And again
1:53:20
Speaker 2: I want to get into your voicemail because they in
1:53:22
Speaker 2: the old days, you you know, people if people had
1:53:25
Speaker 2: a code to to encrypt their phone, and they didn't
1:53:27
Speaker 2: do it properly, so they had zero zero zero zero.
1:53:31
Speaker 2: If you didn't change that, they got into your phone, right,
1:53:33
Speaker 2: So they got into my phone. They got into lots
1:53:35
Speaker 2: of people's phones, Wow, because you never know quite how
1:53:38
Speaker 2: they did it. But so if you'd left me a message,
1:53:39
Speaker 2: they could blag your number and then they start listening
1:53:42
Speaker 2: to your phone and everything else. Now I think you
1:53:45
Speaker 2: know that was that was in this case murderer. But
1:53:47
Speaker 2: Murdock I think has done a lot for the right wing.
1:53:50
Speaker 2: Cause I don't always agree with everything, and I certainly
1:53:52
Speaker 2: didn't agree with him hacking phones. But this all this
1:53:56
Speaker 2: all goes to the point of the establishment coming corrupted,
1:54:01
Speaker 2: and from corruption, I think again you end up with
1:54:06
Speaker 2: oppression and we need to sort that out. And I'm
1:54:10
Speaker 2: hoping if I put myself up and the people agree,
1:54:14
Speaker 2: they will change things. And I think they are in
1:54:15
Speaker 2: a feeble mood, so I'm hoping that they will take
1:54:18
Speaker 2: the opportunity and give us the power to do it.
1:54:20
Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that part up, because we're not
1:54:23
Speaker 1: really aware in America of what the general mood of
1:54:26
Speaker 1: the country is like, where people are leaning in what direction.
1:54:30
Speaker 1: As far as England goes, what is it like is
1:54:34
Speaker 1: a large percentage of the population fed up? I mean,
1:54:37
Speaker 1: what's going on over there?
1:54:38
Speaker 2: Well, I think to your point, you've got this body
1:54:42
Speaker 2: of people who are profiting on the back of these concepts,
1:54:46
Speaker 2: which you and I would agree are completely flawed. So
1:54:49
Speaker 2: they're obviously they're obviously in control at the moment. But
1:54:53
Speaker 2: then you've got the body of people, this increasingly small
1:54:56
Speaker 2: percentage you want to call the private sector, which now
1:55:00
Speaker 2: counts for a smaller and smaller proportion of GDP. So
1:55:04
Speaker 2: your percentage of GDP accounted for by the state is
1:55:08
Speaker 2: much much smaller than ours. So our I mean directly
1:55:13
Speaker 2: and indirectly, I would estimate that our that are the
1:55:17
Speaker 2: share of government now in our in our economy is
1:55:21
Speaker 2: over fifty percent. If you take the effect of these
1:55:23
Speaker 2: quangos and everything else here, you're much smaller than that.
1:55:26
Speaker 2: Now that's come you know, pre Blair Thatcher, we were
1:55:31
Speaker 2: in a very very good economic state and the state
1:55:34
Speaker 2: accounted for you know where it was thirty thirty three
1:55:38
Speaker 2: percent something like that. It's now up to nearly fifty
1:55:40
Speaker 2: percent and rising. And this is what the Fabians want.
1:55:44
Speaker 2: They want a dependency culture, a sort of centrally planned
1:55:49
Speaker 2: USSR style dishing out of taxpayer funds. So they've diminished
1:55:55
Speaker 2: the private sector, which they're taxing into oblivion, which has
1:55:58
Speaker 2: meant that a lot of our most people have left
1:56:00
Speaker 2: the country, so we've lost a lot of our rainmakers
1:56:03
Speaker 2: have gone. So a lot of our best people went
1:56:07
Speaker 2: to obviously Italy, to Dubai, to Abu Dabbi, all over
1:56:11
Speaker 2: the world. Some of them would have come here. So
1:56:13
Speaker 2: the best brains have gone. And I think the non
1:56:18
Speaker 2: doms have gone, which again I think is a huge
1:56:21
Speaker 2: error because they've now been taxed rather than being encouraged
1:56:24
Speaker 2: to spend their time in the UK. So we're being
1:56:29
Speaker 2: hollowed out by this socialist philosophy which is creating damage
1:56:36
Speaker 2: to the private sector and in empowering the public sector.
1:56:41
Speaker 1: Is there a large percentage of young people that are
1:56:44
Speaker 1: aware of.
1:56:44
Speaker 2: There's Oh, the young people have I've been incredibly impressed
1:56:49
Speaker 2: and a lot of them support us, so they know
1:56:52
Speaker 2: they can see that we're trying, I think, to at
1:56:55
Speaker 2: least rebalance this and until we get this right, it's
1:56:59
Speaker 2: going to be very difficult to sort their situation out. Now.
1:57:03
Speaker 2: There's no overnight fixed these days, and I don't know.
1:57:07
Speaker 2: I don't think any of us know quite what effect
1:57:09
Speaker 2: AI is going to have on the employment market, on
1:57:13
Speaker 2: opportunities for young people. I mean, in many ways, if
1:57:17
Speaker 2: they've got a very good brain. They've got the huge
1:57:20
Speaker 2: opportunity to do very well and enrich themselves, but increasingly
1:57:26
Speaker 2: it's fewer and fewer people. It's not like the Industrial Revolution,
1:57:29
Speaker 2: where the majority of people had an increasing standard of living.
1:57:32
Speaker 2: It's going to be very interesting to see how we
1:57:34
Speaker 2: all cope with this incredibly fast moving revolution which is
1:57:41
Speaker 2: what it is, which is arguably going to create some
1:57:45
Speaker 2: incredibly rich people, and those people who haven't got the
1:57:49
Speaker 2: brain power will end up struggling. So it's hard to
1:57:53
Speaker 2: see how that's going to end. But that doesn't mean
1:57:56
Speaker 2: to say we want a state central planning everything. Historically
1:58:00
Speaker 2: that doesn't work, and from that comes a sort of
1:58:05
Speaker 2: shutdown of thought and debate and free speech and all
1:58:09
Speaker 2: the things that that you and I love. I mean,
1:58:13
Speaker 2: that's to me, that's the country I want to live in.
1:58:16
Speaker 2: I don't want to live in a centrally planned mess.
1:58:19
Speaker 2: So we're in very uncertain times. But I'm optimistic that
1:58:26
Speaker 2: if you release the ability, the inate ability of people
1:58:31
Speaker 2: in Britain, in particularly in this case, I think we
1:58:33
Speaker 2: can turn it round. Still can't guarantee it, but I'm
1:58:36
Speaker 2: pretty sure we can still turn it round. But we've
1:58:38
Speaker 2: got to happen now. If it doesn't happen now, it
1:58:41
Speaker 2: would have gone too far.
1:58:42
Speaker 1: Well, I certainly hope you can, because for America and
1:58:46
Speaker 1: when we see what's happening, particularly with the social media
1:58:48
Speaker 1: posts and the arrest, it's so disturbing for us. And
1:58:52
Speaker 1: then of course with the rape gang inquiry report was
1:58:57
Speaker 1: impossible to believe. Simply it's impossible. So you know, we
1:59:04
Speaker 1: hope you guys turn around and when is your elections.
1:59:07
Speaker 2: We don't know, Joe. We've got this character Andy Burnham,
1:59:11
Speaker 2: who Kiir Starmer has stepped down. As you probably know
1:59:16
Speaker 2: Andy Burnham. I call him the Ghostbuster. He is just
1:59:20
Speaker 2: a more user friendly version of Kiir Starmer. He's been
1:59:25
Speaker 2: the mayor of Manchester, he stood in a by election
1:59:29
Speaker 2: recently where he was elected, and he's apparently going to
1:59:34
Speaker 2: be anointed as Prime Minister by the twentieth of July.
1:59:39
Speaker 2: So this is a guy who up until recently wasn't
1:59:42
Speaker 2: even an elected politician. He's been a politician in the past,
1:59:46
Speaker 2: he's been in the cabinet.
1:59:47
Speaker 1: Kiir Starmer can just step down and put another guy
1:59:50
Speaker 1: in his place, and that guy takes over.
1:59:52
Speaker 2: That's what's happening.
1:59:53
Speaker 1: That sounds crazy. I know, what a stupid way to run.
1:59:58
Speaker 2: It's bonkers. But so so the answer your question is
2:00:03
Speaker 2: he could run till twenty nine. That's the backstop date
2:00:07
Speaker 2: he could And everybody says he might have a snap election.
2:00:11
Speaker 2: I think that's highly unlikely. Labour have got the biggest
2:00:14
Speaker 2: post war majority.
2:00:15
Speaker 1: Why would he have a snap election.
2:00:17
Speaker 2: He's got three years left with a huge majority, so
2:00:19
Speaker 2: why would he Why would he take a risk in Manchester?
2:00:23
Speaker 2: He was Manchester mayor. He's actually in the report, in
2:00:28
Speaker 2: the rape gang report. He's mentioned in the rape gang
2:00:30
Speaker 2: report for not doing enough in Manchester, which which is
2:00:34
Speaker 2: a center of rape gangs. So he's involved in that.
2:00:38
Speaker 2: He's involved in that. You know, he's mentioned in our report.
2:00:41
Speaker 2: It's in there. So look, I think in answer question
2:00:45
Speaker 2: when's the election going to be some people would say
2:00:48
Speaker 2: he's going to have an election soon. I don't agree
2:00:50
Speaker 2: with that. I think he'd be mad because I still
2:00:53
Speaker 2: think the public will judge Labor harshly because the economy
2:00:58
Speaker 2: is not going well. Aren't feeling richer, They're feeling poorer,
2:01:02
Speaker 2: their businesses are struggling. Their taxes have gone up, Our
2:01:05
Speaker 2: taxes are at post war hires now, so under waste
2:01:09
Speaker 2: is just off the scale. So when I'm in the
2:01:12
Speaker 2: Public Accounts Committee, which I sit in again, it's all on.
2:01:15
Speaker 2: You can watch it on people watch it on screens.
2:01:19
Speaker 2: It's the Public Accounts Committe is the most powerful committee
2:01:21
Speaker 2: in Parliament and we question these civil servants to try
2:01:24
Speaker 2: and hold them to account for the tax payer. The
2:01:27
Speaker 2: waste is just off the scale. So you've got a wasteful,
2:01:31
Speaker 2: inefficient state which is then taxing the private sector into oblivion,
2:01:35
Speaker 2: the increasingly small private sector. And that's not a recipe
2:01:40
Speaker 2: that's going to encourage risk taking investment. It's not going
2:01:44
Speaker 2: to you know, they're taxing family farms, they're taxing family
2:01:47
Speaker 2: businesses for the first time. They're basically breaking the backbone
2:01:51
Speaker 2: of Britain to the Fabian point they are. They are
2:01:54
Speaker 2: enacting this Fabian agenda which is designed to create a
2:01:58
Speaker 2: society that's reliant on the state. I don't want I
2:02:01
Speaker 2: don't want that.
2:02:02
Speaker 1: Nobody should want that. Well, listen, man, thank you very
2:02:05
Speaker 1: much for being here. I really appreciate it. I really
2:02:07
Speaker 1: appreciate you taking the time. I know it was difficult
2:02:10
Speaker 1: to get here for this day, and this is the
2:02:11
Speaker 1: only day we had opened.
2:02:12
Speaker 2: So no, it's very kind you to have me on journa.
2:02:14
Speaker 2: I know it's some big celebrations tomorrow, say.
2:02:17
Speaker 1: Good luck to you.
2:02:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're we're gonna win. We're gonna I'm amazed at
2:02:21
Speaker 2: the support we've got, and I'm amazed at the number
2:02:24
Speaker 2: of people who, even on the plane come up to
2:02:26
Speaker 2: me and thank me for what I'm doing and say
2:02:29
Speaker 2: they're going to vote for us. And I think Britain's
2:02:33
Speaker 2: on the turn, and hopefully if we if we put
2:02:36
Speaker 2: up shop, tell them what we're going to do, give
2:02:39
Speaker 2: them a chance to vote for us. If they vote
2:02:41
Speaker 2: for us, I shall do my best to change things.
2:02:43
Speaker 2: If they don't vote for me, well that's that's their prerogative.
2:02:46
Speaker 2: That's democracy. Good luck, pleasure,