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Big Thirst in Margarita Canyon | Live, Laugh, Larceny · PNW Haunts & Homicides

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  Live Laugh Larsony discusses true petty crimes that may be disturbing to some.
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  Or could be easy listening to all you psychopaths out there.
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  All stories are based on actual events.
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  Ehhh, but details may vary.
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  Listener discretion is not advised.
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  [Music]
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  Live Laugh Larsony
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  Welcome to Live Laugh Larsony.
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  Blood is thicker than water, and less hydrating.
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  [Laughter]
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  This is Trevon.
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  [Laughter]
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  And I'm Amanda Trevin.
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  You?
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  What's your dreadful dilemma?
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  My dreadful dilemma is that I went to the movies recently.
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  And I didn't have a bad movie experience.
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  Love the movies always will.
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  I'll never say anything bad about the movies.
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  But I gotta say, I once had a dilemma about why do movie trailers have trailers before the
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  trailers? Do you remember this?
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  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Like if you watch a trailer on YouTube or you see it on TV sometimes, it's like
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  the trailer for Spider-Man 12, starting in two seconds.
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  Here's the trailer, trailer, and it's just like, why do you do that?
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  Yeah.
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  So I've got a very similar complaint, but almost to a larger scale.
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  Oh, whoa.
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  You've been taking Lila to see movies recently.
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  Yes.
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  My complaint now is why do movie theaters have to have movie trailers for their theater
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  when I'm already their customer?
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  Oh, I see.
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  Where they're kind of like AMC theater.
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  We've got popcorn.
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  We've got showtime.
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  We've even got a little restaurant like that.
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  Yeah, stuff like that, which I get to a certain point.
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  They're trying to sell their amenities, like the special things they do.
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  But sometimes it's just like, Nicole Kibman.
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  We do movies better here.
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  I get it.
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  I love Unicol.
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  I'll see you later.
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  And then the next time it's two couples who are like going through different
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  off-brain versions of movies I've seen before.
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  And it's like, okay, couple, go off on your movie adventure.
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  Now I know that you're both having a good time at AMC.
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  And then another one comes up and it's like, now our sound is more soundier than sound.
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  Oh.
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  [laughs]
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  Oh.
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  That is so damn true.
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  And I'm like, guys, you already earned my heart.
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  You already earned my love.
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  I'm here.
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  I am here.
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  I bought a ticket.
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  I don't need to be like, this screen is one of the biggest in the state.
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  Yeah, like they'll talk about the popcorn, the sounds, the feels, the Nicole Kibman's.
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  It's like, have you ever dated one of those people that was very self-conscious and so they had
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  to keep demonstrating that they had value to you all the time?
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  And it's just like, oh, you think that's good?
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  Have I shown you that I can also do that?
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  Oh, did I show you I could do this too?
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  Chill, dude.
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  It's like a toddler trying to gain your attention.
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  And it's like, I already birthed you.
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  I'm already staring at you.
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  I'm already applauding you.
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  I don't need you to do another cartwheel and break your neck.
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  Exactly.
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  Yeah, I feel that.
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  I feel that.
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  You already got me, okay?
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  Oh.
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  So that's how that made me feel.
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  I mean, I had a great experience.
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  What movie did you see?
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  Recently I saw two.
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  I saw Long Legs and I also saw the third quiet place movie.
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  Oh shit.
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  Okay.
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  Did you like them?
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  I like them both.
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  There were some things about both that kind of annoyed me, but all in all, very good time still.
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  I don't think I've heard of Long Legs.
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  Long Legs is a horror movie that is kind of like a detective thriller and it's got
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  Nicholas Cage is the bad guy.
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  Oh, Nicholas Cage.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Okay.
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  Well, Treven, I also have a dreadful dilemma this week.
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  And before we recorded, I was telling you just how much I loved my lake trip with my family
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  that I just went on.
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  Which how could it be dreadful?
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  It sounded beautiful.
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  I know.
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  Right.
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  And I'm going to kind of tell the listeners a little bit about it.
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  It was at Beaver Lake just over the border of Missouri into Arkansas.
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  I had never been there.
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  I was explaining to Treven the difference between the lakes and bodies of water here that are mud-based
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  and kind of cloudy and dark water.
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  You're a little terrified the whole entire time you're in there.
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  This lake was pebble-bottomed.
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  It was crystal clear.
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  You could see the fishes.
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  There were even gigantic rocks and you could feel like you were the little mermaid as the bubbling
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  brook just like splashed up to you.
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  Were they good for people to do the skipping stones?
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  It sounds like a skipping stone story.
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  Yeah.
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  Well, that would be Jordan's dreadful dilemma because he tried his
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  d'Artus to skip a stone on that beautiful ass lake and he failed each and every time.
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  Damn.
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  It was really sad to watch, but not my dreadful dilemma.
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  That was actually quite entertaining.
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  But I had great time with my family, my babies.
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  We all were just in the water.
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  And what did I tell you earlier?
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  How did I describe it?
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  The nature like rejuvenated my soul?
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  Yeah, you just said it like made you a new or something.
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  Yeah.
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  Yes.
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  For me, I have such a high fear of mosquitoes
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  and I did not get one single mosquito bite on the whole trip.
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  So this was heaven for you?
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  Heaven on Earth.
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  I could see through the water so I wasn't scared.
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  There was a shallow entrance for my babies.
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  We all had like 500 floaties on us.
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  And it was just genuinely like rejuvenated my soul back into nature again.
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  I feel like I don't get outside enough at all.
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  And this was really, really good for me.
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  You found bliss and beaver lake.
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  I did.
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  I did.
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  So now to the dreadful part.
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  I had a great time with my family.
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  The house that we were staying in was an Airbnb.
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  And it was amazing, plenty of room for all of us.
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  However, on the last night of our trip,
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  we were about to eat dinner.
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  My husband was taking a shower and he came upstairs
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  with a gatorade bottle and he's like, "Guys, guys, look what I just
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  spent an hour trying to trap downstairs in the bathroom."
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  He brings it over.
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  There was a fucking scorpion.
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  Oh, I thought you were going to say snake.
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  No.
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  You.
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  A scorpion.
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  In our bathroom.
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  So my family, my babies, me and my husband, we had the whole basement.
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  It was in the basement bathroom.
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  My kiddo was sleeping so close to that bathroom.
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  I didn't even look at my notes at all, but I did want to tell you guys what kind it was.
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  Apparently there's only one type of species of scorpion that's native to Arkansas.
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  So we looked that one up and we looked at him and we looked at the picture
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  and we determined that it was a striped bark scorpion.
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  And luckily for us, they said, most of the time it will not cause death if you get stung by these guys.
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  Oh, good. Just like amputation or something.
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  Yeah.
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  Maybe you could get somewhat paralyzed or go into anaphylactic shock or heavy breathing,
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  palpitating, sweating, throwing up.
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  So rest assured.
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  Yeah. So rest assured.
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  This was my first time ever in my entire life seeing a live scorpion.
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  Yeah, I don't know if I have outside of the zoo.
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  I guess I've seen them like trapped or like for some reason growing up with a dead scorpion in a case
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  as kids we had one.
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  So I've seen them, but like this was a moving scorpion in my residence.
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  And that was terrifying.
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  So what did Jordan do with that?
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  We kept in the Gatorade bottle for a while.
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  My sister-in-law was really fascinated by it.
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  She took lots of pictures of it so I can definitely post it online for you all to see.
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  When I took the kids to bed, my brother and his wife said it free far away from our house outside.
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  But it was a time.
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  Well, that sounds like a real dilemma.
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  I would have also been in the shrieking crowd with that one too.
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  Hell yes. So today we are going to be doing a round of two truths in one lie.
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  I've got three wires. Which one do I cut?
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  I'll give you two truths in a lie.
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  Oh wait, we don't have time for this.
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  We do our playing game.
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  Here go.
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  And I'm doing it first.
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  Yes, you are.
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  So it's been heating up around here.
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  Yes, it has.
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  Tis the summer.
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  And it will still be the summer when this episode comes out.
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  And I've just been wanting to enjoy time on the patio.
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  You know what I mean?
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  Yeah.
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  Chill back.
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  Have a gummy.
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  Yeah.
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  Sipa.
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  Summer time drink.
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  So I figured maybe we should do two truths in a lie about everyone's favorite summer time drink.
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  Margaritas.
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  Oh!
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  Aye, aye, aye.
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  So here we go.
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  Statement number one.
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  The first frozen margarita machine is on display at the Smithsonian.
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  Statement number two.
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  There is a skin reaction nicknamed margarita dermatitis,
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  commonly caused by making the drink.
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  Or statement number three.
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  Jim Henson came up with the colorful designs of the Sesame Street characters at a Mexican restaurant,
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  while on a quote margarita stupor.
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  Oh man, I don't know why, but I'm going to go with
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  A is the lie.
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  And you are incorrect.
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  Damn, was it B?
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  It was actually three.
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  Oh shit.
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  Number three, okay.
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  So the lie was that?
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  Oh god, damn it.
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  I was saying A, B, and C.
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  And you were saying one, two, and three.
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  I gotcha, don't worry.
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  The third option was the lie.
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  Jim Henson did not come up with Sesame Street on a margarita stupor.
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  That was actually the guy who created Doug.
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  Oh.
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  So you know how a lot of the people in Doug have a bunch of colorful skin colors?
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  Yes, skater is blue and what's her name?
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  Patty mayonnaise.
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  She's like orange.
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  Orange-ish, like a bun kind of,
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  like a hamburger bun color.
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  So here's a little quote I have from his Wikipedia.
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  In 1984, Jenkins career took a turn for the worse, as well as his personal life.
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  He had a rough breakup and suffered injuries and a biking accident.
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  During this time, he gained a new outlook on life,
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  desiring to quote, "create a place where there was no overdue rent and no delinquent phone bills."
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  He began doodling and forming the basis for bluffing 10, the central location in Doug.
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  The characters early designs were solidified alongside friend David Campbell at a small Mexican
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  restaurant in New York.
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  He later credited the character's odd coloring choices from being in a margarita stupor.
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  Holy shit, I love that.
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  Did you watch Doug a lot growing up?
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  Oh, I love Doug.
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  Honestly, sometimes I think about this show as like my personal Doug,
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  because he goes into his head and has like the Indiana Jones moments,
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  and then he has a superhero quail man moments.
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  I feel like sometimes these stories are just like my Doug stories in my head.
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  That's a really good point.
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  We do parody stuff, just like Doug does parody stuff.
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  So I like this guy's energy, even though I know he was going through a dark time,
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  he still made a weird children's show out of it. That's cool.
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  I loved the hell out of Doug.
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  I don't know what it was.
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  Maybe it was his imagination and stuff.
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  That really got me. I also liked the music.
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  They said there was a real cynical nature to his writing for it,
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  so maybe I should watch it again and give it a chance.
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  Like here it is an adult because I'm kind of a cynical writer.
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  Yeah, and now that I'm actually thinking about it,
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  Doug in general was kind of not the happiest guy.
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  He was kind of a sad kid.
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  Yeah, he seemed kind of sad, kind of awkward, kind of self-conscious,
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  kind of in his own head a lot.
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  It probably would be good to watch that as an adult.
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  Yeah, I wonder who he has up.
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  So for the truth, the first frozen margarita machine
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  is at the Smithsonian.
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  God damn.
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  This is from Wikipedia as well.
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  The inventor was Mariano Martinez in Dallas, Texas in 1971.
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  He adapted a Slurpy machine to making margaritas and dubbed it,
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  quote, "the world's first frozen margarita machine."
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  Wow, so it wasn't even like invented for that.
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  It was just a slushy maker.
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  They'd poured some alcohol in as well.
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  And then he gets credited for it. I don't know what all he had to change to do that
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  if it really was literally just adding alcohol to it or if he did more to it.
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  I mean, it says he was an inventor.
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  But the machine is now in the National Museum of American History
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  part of the Smithsonian Institute.
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  That seems so silly to me.
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  I'm not going to lie, but it's fun.
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  Margaritas are fun.
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  Yeah, unless you get margarita dermatitis.
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  Apparently.
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  So coming from health.clevelandclinic.org,
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  the science behind margarita burns.
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  Next time you're sipping margaritas on the patio,
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  be careful when squeezing that fresh lime into your drink.
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  The parts of your skin that have been exposed to both the fruit and sun
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  may be vulnerable to a margarita burn.
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  Medically speaking, a margarita burn is known as
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  phyto-photodermatitis, and it's a form of extreme sunburn.
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  What does this mouthful term mean?
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  Phyto means plant, photo means light, or sun,
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  and dermatitis means skin rash.
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  So phyto-photodermatitis is the skin's exaggerated response to the sun,
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  resulting in light to severe blistering that may look like sun poisoning or rash.
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  Okay.
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  It is usually from citrus fruits that contain
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  furo-cumarins, which is an organic compound
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  that just does not mix well with our skin and the sun.
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  It also gets it from celery and carrots, buttercups,
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  fennel hogweed.
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  I don't know how often you sit back and have hogweed, but
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  you know, it's regularly on the menu at my home.
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  Yeah, you can get these.
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  I've never heard of that.
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  I regularly squeeze limes on patios and had no idea.
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  Yeah, dude, me too, always.
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  So I know they're saying it's margarita,
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  but are we just saying if you didn't have any alcohol or a margarita at all,
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  and you had a juice with lime in it, is it the same exact thing?
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  Yes, it's only called the margarita dermatitis because a lot of people on their back
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  patios, like blending them up for summer things.
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  It's the most common with people.
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  It's like, well, I was outside having margarita.
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  Having some margarita?
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  They're like, fuck that margarita.
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  Yeah, so it got the name just because that was the common cause mostly.
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  Damn.
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  So even if you're out there squeezing a lime into your corona out there at a hot
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  baseball game or anything, anything like that at all,
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  you just put on that freaking sunscreen.
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  Try not to get that lime on your hands.
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  Good lord.
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  That's my turn now then.
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  And I had a really fun time with this one.
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  Today, I am going to give you two truths and a lie about vandalism done to the iconic Hollywood
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  sign in the Hollywood Hills of LA, California.
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  Before I do that, I got all of this information just from the Wikipedia page about the Hollywood
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  sign. It was actually extremely informative.
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  I wanted to give a brief little backstory about the sign.
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  It was built in 1923 as a temporary advertisement for a local real estate development area.
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  Did you know that?
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  I did not actually don't know much about the sign, but I've always been curious about it.
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  Yeah. It originally didn't just say Hollywood.
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  It said Hollywood land.
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  And it was a development that they were building homes in that area.
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  And it was just going to be a temporary like, you can see it really good on this hill,
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  you know, and come over here and buy a house.
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  But because it became well known and a landmark for the area, they ended up removing the land
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  at the end and it just remained saying Hollywood.
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  The sign was repaired in 1949.
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  It was completely rebuilt in 1978.
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  It was repainted in 2005 and again repainted in 2023.
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  Oh, cool huh.
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  Spruce throughout a bit.
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  She's nice and shiny right now.
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  Trevin, are you ready?
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  Which of the following words was the Hollywood sign not altered to?
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  So there's been a few vandalisms where people have changed the word to something else.
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  So which of these is the lie?
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  Is it a, Hollywood, B, Hollywood, or C, Hollywood?
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  This is fun.
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  Okay, so I know it's not Hollywood because I was going to say that one as an example.
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  I was going to be like, oh yeah, like Hollywood.
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  Exactly.
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  So sure, you're torn between Hollywood or Hollywood?
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  I'll go with Hollywood.
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  Is the lie?
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  That's the lie.
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  You are right.
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  Oh yes.
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  Good job Trevin.
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  So that one I totally made up.
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  No one has done Hully poop yet, but if it is ever done, can I just claim it here and now that
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  that person was inspired by me?
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  Yes, you can go down as an accomplice when they get arrested.
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  Thank you.
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  I'll take it.
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  So A and B were correct.
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  A little bit about the Hully Boob alteration.
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  This happened on February 1st of 2021.
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  Whoa, that's recent.
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  Very recent.
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  The sign was altered by the YouTuber Joug Squad and Instagram influencer Julia Rose to
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  challenge censorship on Instagram.
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  Because a lot of people been like, why can't I put my nipple on Instagram anymore?
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  It was kind of about that.
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  So the word Hully Boob is anything close to putting a nipple on a screen?
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  I guess.
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  It was their way to do it.
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  I mean, I'm all going through the nipple.
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  I just, I don't see how that fights the war very well.
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  And then Hully Weed, which that was one that I knew.
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  I remember it being done.
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  And it's funny because it was actually changed to Hully Weed multiple times, not just once.
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  The first time was in January of 1976.
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  By Daniel Feingood, it was following the passage of state law decriminalizing cannabis.
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  The sign was altered again early on New Year's Day in 2017.
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  likely as an homage to new California law legalizing recreational cannabis.
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  So it was actually changed to Hully Weed twice.
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  That is so fun.
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  It just made me think of Kevin Smith had a TV show that he tried to launch for like showtime
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  called Hully Weed.
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  Oh.
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  But it didn't really take.
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  That's quite the bummer.
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  He really should have somehow latched on to that big demonstration somehow and made it a thing.
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  Because that's a really funny name.
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  Yeah, it is a fun name.
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  But you know what else is fun?
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  Hully Weed and these ads.
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  And welcome back to the show.
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  Hi.
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  We already said this.
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  It's my week to go first.
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  And I've got a story that was actually requested by a few people.
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  This was one that recently popped up in the news.
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  Went very viral.
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  So I can't really think everybody that told me to cover it.
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  But we had multiple people come in.
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  And I'm so glad that you did not come across it because I think you would have
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  leapt at the opportunity.
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  Oh, hell.
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  Well, now I'm jealous.
• 19:40
  Did it come through our socials or email or both?
• 19:44
  Socials, I think.
• 19:44
  Okay, okay.
• 19:46
  Okay, okay.
• 19:47
  I've seen some other people just sharing it as a meme too.
• 19:50
  Oh, yes.
• 19:52
  So that's another place where I'm like, oh no, what if you see it?
• 19:54
  If you know what I'm talking about, listeners already.
• 19:57
  We're in for a treat.
• 19:58
  And I can't wait to hear what you think of the story too.
• 20:01
  Oh my god.
• 20:02
  So news, viral, and recent.
• 20:05
  Here we go.
• 20:06
  To be human is to navigate a vast array of experiences.
• 20:16
  Trials and tribulations, moments of great success,
• 20:21
  pain, and everything in between.
• 20:22
  Whether the situation was unpleasant or ultimately rewarding,
• 20:26
  it's hard not to feel that its completion deserves a little treat.
• 20:31
  It just makes things better.
• 20:32
  In today's world, we've embraced a culture
• 20:35
  where even the smallest achievements warrant a celebration.
• 20:38
  Survive to Monday.
• 20:40
  Treat yourself to a Jack Daniels cold brew.
• 20:42
  Finally finish that inconvenient task you've been putting off.
• 20:46
  Maybe let the kids make their own dinner tonight.
• 20:47
  We crave praise and validation so much that we've turned every minor milestone
• 20:54
  into a reason for a prize.
• 20:55
  But this raises a crucial question.
• 20:58
  If a punishment can't match a crime,
• 21:00
  should we be celebrating achievements that don't match the accomplishment?
• 21:03
  Are we diluting the importance of our significant milestones by
• 21:07
  celebrating every minor victory with the same enthusiasm?
• 21:10
  It's one thing to reward yourself for getting a new job.
• 21:13
  But is it really necessary to have cake for dinner?
• 21:15
  Just for getting out of bed before noon?
• 21:16
  I need this.
• 21:17
  Our accomplishments start to feel less important when everything deserves a treat.
• 21:22
  Yet there's an even more frightening prospect.
• 21:24
  The excessive celebration.
• 21:27
  We've seen our fair share on this show.
• 21:28
  From a gender reveal kicked off with a gigantic explosion.
• 21:31
  To a young woman's birthday, commemorated with exposed breasts,
• 21:35
  and celebratory shots fired from a moving vehicle.
• 21:37
  It's fair to say that the lines between reasonable observance and unhinged absurdity
• 21:43
  often get blurred here.
• 21:44
  So today, as we dive into the world of over-the-top ceremonies and misplaced rewards,
• 21:50
  ask yourself, what happens when a celebration far outweighs the accomplishment?
• 21:54
  And when does a little treat become a big mistake?
• 21:57
  I'm the award for most masculine man of the month.
• 22:07
  The person who has exuded the least amount of emotion and greatest amount of strength
• 22:13
  goes to…
• 22:14
  From Roll, please.
• 22:16
  Joe, boy, it!
• 22:18
  Congratulations, Joe.
• 22:22
  You get your name framed on the wall for the next 30 days.
• 22:25
  Standing from his chair, the newly crowned, most masculine man of the month,
• 22:31
  gave a bow to his fellow co-workers.
• 22:32
  "I finally did it!" he thought to himself, maintaining a blank expression,
• 22:38
  so no one knew how excited he was.
• 22:39
  With the announcement made, Joe sat back down, knowing the all eyes were on him.
• 22:44
  He thought about how sore the other guys at his warehouse must be,
• 22:48
  knowing that, for the next month, they would drive their giant diesel-guzzling
• 22:52
  trucks while realizing they were no more than second manliest.
• 22:55
  "This identity is expensive."
• 22:57
  For the rest of the day, Joe lifted heavy boxes and completed all of his tasks
• 23:01
  with an ego so full you'd think it just went to a Chinese buffet.
• 23:04
  He held his head high and puffed out his chest.
• 23:07
  After sneaking away to take a 30-minute dump on company time,
• 23:11
  he put his sunglasses on the back of his head for style, swaggering like an 80s action star.
• 23:15
  "Look at world, there's a new man in town."
• 23:20
  As the work day came to a close, Joe took his newfound confidence home with him.
• 23:24
  He walked through the front door, dick first, as if he were led by the source of his masculine power.
• 23:29
  "Merry, his girlfriend, was drawn to his animal magnetism,
• 23:34
  like a tractor beam from a sci-fi film."
• 23:36
  "Something is different about you."
• 23:39
  "Merry said, dabbing away the precipitation from her chest."
• 23:42
  "And I really like it."
• 23:44
  Joe put his hands on his hips in a power stance.
• 23:47
  "Well, you're looking at the manliest man of the month at Big Boy Warehouse," he announced.
• 23:52
  "Merry looked at her accomplished partner. He had been trying to prove that he's the manliest
• 23:56
  since the day she met him. Finally, he did it. His toxic masculine behavior throughout the
• 24:01
  years paid off, and he was given the title of "Man." "Oh my God, babe, this is huge. We have to
• 24:07
  celebrate." "Merry exclaimed, jumping up from the couch." "No, we can't." Joe quickly interrupted.
• 24:14
  "As much as I am happy about my accomplishment, it's the most manly thing for me to put up a fight
• 24:19
  and act like you're inconveniencing me with wanting to celebrate my achievement. It's best that I
• 24:23
  treat your happiness with resistance before eventually giving in and celebrating me anyway."
• 24:27
  "Merry paused at Joe's rare demonstration of self-awareness, knowing that it would be at least
• 24:32
  an hour of arguing before she could get him to do the thing he truly wanted to do. But before
• 24:36
  she began stroking his ego to start the process, she got a great idea. With her hands gripping the
• 24:42
  bottom of her oversized house shirt, she quickly lifted and exposed her ample bosom. Joe's defense
• 24:48
  is fell, as she leaned in and said the most adductive thing she could think of. "Let's go get tacos.
• 24:54
  And after? I'll let you do that thing you always asked to do."
• 24:57
  Joe's body tensed up, causing him to inadvertently squeeze the dog toy he had bought on his way home.
• 25:04
  That act was saved for the most sacred of milestones. Occasion so sanctified, he had only seen one in
• 25:11
  the span of their entire relationship. He licked his lips, thinking of the pleasure coming his way.
• 25:16
  Not only did this mysterious sex act sound like a good time, but tacos on a Tuesday are always
• 25:21
  better than any other weekday. The cheese, the grease, the random table celebrating a birthday nearby,
• 25:28
  and the excuse to get drunk on a weeknight made Joe realize this had the potential to be the best
• 25:34
  night of his life. "I'll do anything you want, mommy," he said, wishing our story forward in time.
• 25:40
  The two sat down near the window at rodeo mexican restaurant.
• 25:46
  Mary scooted herself up against her man, pressing her warm body against him.
• 25:50
  "Whoa, you're really excited aren't you?" Joe asked, loving the closeness.
• 25:55
  "We gotta make room for Bart and Chelsea are."
• 25:59
  "What?" Joe quietly cut Mary off. "You better not be backing on that thing tonight."
• 26:04
  "You said?"
• 26:04
  "Relax." Mary said. "I'm not backing out."
• 26:09
  "I'm well aware of what I'm expected to do later tonight."
• 26:12
  "I just thought I'd share the occasion with our best friends."
• 26:15
  Joe began to relax as he did distort the chip in Aramican, a restaurant-style salsa.
• 26:21
  "Okay, good. Bart is probably gonna be pretty bitter about not getting the most manliest man of the
• 26:26
  month though. I mean, he just got that text as a decent truck. He probably thought he was owed that
• 26:30
  award." Mary rolled her eyes, thinking of all the times Joe reminded her of how dramatic women are
• 26:36
  before having her thoughts interrupted by Bart and Chelsea.
• 26:38
  "Hey guys!" Bart said excitedly. "Thanks for having us here to celebrate the big night.
• 26:44
  Most manliest man of the month. Joe, I never thought this month would come. I guess wearing sunglasses
• 26:50
  on the back of your head well into the night really does send a strong message."
• 26:54
  "I guess it does," Joe responded, quite aware of Bart's catiness. "I just took it one day at a time
• 27:00
  and wore sunglasses in a way that they weren't designed to be worn."
• 27:03
  "It's certainly not a Texas edition truck, is it?"
• 27:07
  The dinner went on with the two couples getting their own respective plates of tacos,
• 27:11
  and keeping their waiter very busy with chips and margarita refills. "Mass drinky pork bar."
• 27:16
  It was a taco Tuesday filled with good food, strong drinks, and tension so thick,
• 27:21
  it would need a carne asada stick knife to cut.
• 27:23
  Joe and Mary overindulged, turning their celebratory nature into increasingly bizarre forms of
• 27:29
  gloating. "Oops, my boob fell out of my shirt." Bart and Chelsea momentarily stopping their drinking,
• 27:35
  just watched the show. "Oh no, how did you nipple fall all the way into my mouth?"
• 27:40
  After Joe had already performed, mouth to boob resuscitation,
• 27:45
  Chelsea had her phone at the ready. Unsure of what the manliest man of the month and his girlfriend
• 27:49
  might do next. It seemed that Joe and Mary had reached the peak of their bizarre antics
• 27:54
  in the booth of the rodeo Mexican restaurant, until Joe remembered the special favor, coming his way.
• 27:58
  "You think that was hot?" Joe drunkenly announced to his friends.
• 28:02
  "You should hear about what risqué thing Mary is going to congratulate me with later."
• 28:06
  All eyes turned to Mary, who shrugged her shoulders in embarrassment.
• 28:10
  She squirmed, worried that the details of this intimate act might change our friends' view to her.
• 28:15
  But then she thought about how shit blasted drunk she was from housing margaritas all night.
• 28:20
  "Hear about it? Why don't we show them?"
• 28:23
  She said, ready to give her boyfriend his present early in the front of everyone.
• 28:28
  "Babe, we would need a funnel," Joe said, ever the realist when it comes to logistics.
• 28:33
  "Let's just ask him."
• 28:34
  Mary yelled, flagging down the waiter they had been abusing all evening.
• 28:38
  "Help me, I help you, ma'am."
• 28:40
  The waiter asked. Mary confidently asked,
• 28:43
  "Do you have any funnels in the kitchen or anything like that?"
• 28:46
  The waiter looked at the inebriated couple and considered how much he hated his job.
• 28:50
  Day in and day out, he dealt with bad tips and complaints about salsa being too spicy.
• 28:55
  He had missed his nephew's birthday from mandatory Cinco de Mayo.
• 28:58
  He could get a different job tomorrow if he wanted.
• 29:00
  Losing this one, maybe worth the story he could tell later.
• 29:03
  "Absolutely!" the man responded,
• 29:06
  "Let me see if I can find a funnel for your drunk ass."
• 29:08
  The waiter disappeared into the kitchen area, as Bart looked over at Chelsea, unsure of what they
• 29:13
  were about to witness. She pulled out her phone and hit record, framing her best friends from across
• 29:18
  the booth. Soon after hitting the red circle on her phone, the waiter returned and handed a dark blue
• 29:23
  funnel to Joe. Joe stood up, turning his hat backwards and giving his best 90s budwaiser bro laugh.
• 29:29
  Mary got on all fours in the booth, pulling down her pants to expose her butt cheeks and light red
• 29:34
  thong. Joe laughed again, lining himself up behind Mary and looking over at his friends.
• 29:41
  With one hand gripping the top of the funnel, he stuck the end in his mouth,
• 29:45
  then pulled it out and lined it up as if to insert in Mary's rectum.
• 29:50
  Chelsea continued to record her body giving every signal to take flight.
• 29:53
  "I'm just kidding!" Joe said, laughing at his humorous misdirection.
• 29:58
  With his crowd recoiling in fear, he placed the funnel at the shallows part of Mary's butt crack
• 30:04
  and lifted his margarita high. Finally, he was going to relive his fantasy of being like the hip-hop artist
• 30:10
  in the music videos. He was going to drink a margarita, poured right down his partner's booty cleavage,
• 30:15
  and the funnel was going to make the job a lot easier within the constraints of the vigno.
• 30:19
  Joe got into position, attempting to balance himself, the funnel, the margarita, and his head.
• 30:25
  Each time he'd lunch forward, he lost all coordination, looking more like a baby trying to dance.
• 30:30
  It couldn't be done. Mexican restaurant booths were not made with the ergonomics of drinking from an
• 30:35
  ass in mind. The funnel was a novel idea, but Joe knew it was now or never. His funnel technique would
• 30:40
  need to be perfected on his own time. Right now, he had his girls butt in the air, his friends
• 30:45
  recording him, and other patrons watching from across the room. It's not polite to stare, Henry.
• 30:50
  Going against everything his parents and teachers taught him, Joe discarded the funnel, and
• 30:54
  raw-dogged that booty booze, lime juice, tequila, salt, and ice, ran down Mary's cavern of curiosities,
• 31:03
  where Joe's mouth waited, attempting to seek nourishment. Joe drank it up, no crumbs, drunk on Jose
• 31:10
  and poo particles, he called out for assistance from the waiter. Excuse me, sir. We seem to have
• 31:15
  had a spill. He said, lifting his finger to his lips and making the face of a bad boy.
• 31:20
  The waiter brought Joe to hell, while Mary went to the restroom to clean herself off.
• 31:25
  "How did that lime get in there?" Everything got cleaned up, Joe paid for the dinner, and tipped with
• 31:30
  his new man money. And Mary left the restaurant feeling a little less vanilla than she once believed
• 31:34
  herself to be. Time went on. Joe's manliest man of the month title changed with the turning of
• 31:40
  the next calendar page. He was back to trying everything he could to be a man once again.
• 31:44
  While Mary was looking at herself, with a bit more confidence,
• 31:47
  everything seemed as it was before the celebration, until a call from Mary's mother changed everything.
• 31:53
  "I heard a rumor about you," she said with sadness in her voice, before going into full detail
• 32:00
  of what she had heard. With no specific spirit, she explained everything that had gone on,
• 32:05
  as if she were actually there. But the part at the end totally caught Mary by surprise.
• 32:10
  "I saw the video, honey. They're calling you one chuggers!"
• 32:14
  Mary's ass went colder than night she had a margarita in it. A abruptly ending the call.
• 32:18
  She jumped in her car and went to Chelsea's work.
• 32:20
  "I let my boyfriend drink a margarita from my ass in front of you in a Mexican restaurant
• 32:27
  in confidence." She yelled, stomping her way up to her friend.
• 32:31
  "I thought we had a nice time. I was at your wedding!"
• 32:35
  She continued to yell, "Listen, the whole night made me really uncomfortable,"
• 32:40
  Chelsea spoke for the first time in the story. "You all were so drunk.
• 32:44
  I didn't pour the margarita up your butthole."
• 32:46
  "It wasn't up my butt!" Mary interrupted.
• 32:49
  "It was down my crack."
• 32:50
  Chelsea sighed, "Either way, you did it in public. I'm sorry my sharing it made you upset,
• 32:57
  but you seemed pretty proud of it at the moment. It's been shared so much. I can't stop it now."
• 33:02
  Mary continued to yell at her friend, before making a threat that was more self-inflicting than she
• 33:08
  had originally intended. "Well, I'm gonna call the police and make them make you take it down."
• 33:14
  "Now."
• 33:14
  In April 2024, Georgia couple, Joe Boyette and Mary Sweat, were filmed by friends as Joe drank a
• 33:23
  margarita poured down Mary's butt crack at rodeo Mexican restaurant in Wakecross, Georgia.
• 33:27
  According to TMZ, the couple's antics began with Mary exposing her breasts, prompting Joe to put
• 33:34
  her left nipple in his mouth as she pulled him closer. Things escalated when they decided to attempt
• 33:38
  the margarita maneuver. Videos show a rodeo restaurant employee, bringing Joe a funnel, as Mary
• 33:44
  got down on all fours in the booth. Joe pretended to use the funnel before discarding it and going
• 33:48
  asked a mouth in front of his friends. The couple miraculously left the restaurant without any incident,
• 33:54
  but the video taken had viral aspirations. For the following 12 weeks, the original cell phone
• 33:59
  recording spread like wildfire among anyone who loves Mexican restaurants, margaritas, and butt crack
• 34:04
  content. Embarrassed and frustrated with the viral attention, Mary went to the police to complain,
• 34:10
  hoping to get the video removed. However, once police investigations uncovered the fanny feasting
• 34:15
  video, arrest warrants were issued. Within two days of the warrants being placed, both Joe Boyette
• 34:21
  and Mary Sweat turned themselves in. They were each charged with a single misdemeanor of public
• 34:25
  and decency. As this is a newer arrest, no punishments have been officially made. According to
• 34:30
  lowpezlaw.com, a class B misdemeanor in Georgia can earn you a maximum of six months in prison and
• 34:35
  a fine of $500. While a class A misdemeanor can result nut to one year in prison and a fine of $1000.
• 34:42
  In case you're wondering, no, I have no idea if Joe and Mary were celebrating anything specific.
• 34:48
  For all I know, Joe and Mary might be the most adventurous couple around, with every night filled
• 34:54
  with funnels, cell phone videos, and butt stuff. If I were doing something like this,
• 34:58
  it would have to be for a special occasion. Assuming this was a celebration, I can't imagine
• 35:03
  what accomplishment would warrant this level of observance. Honestly, making a rap video is the
• 35:08
  only milestone worthy of drinking from an ass, but maybe I'm just vanilla. With the rap video
• 35:13
  rule firmly in place, I'm throwing a flag and calling an excessive celebration penalty on this
• 35:18
  Georgia couple. Whether this was for a fictitious award or just a simple taco Tuesday,
• 35:23
  nothing deserves a public display of these proportions. I'm not saying the act itself is bad,
• 35:27
  or worthy of shaming. I just want the celebration to match the accomplishment.
• 35:31
  If you wake up having all your prayers answered, win the lottery and lose 20 pounds,
• 35:36
  buy all means, get your partner's consent, and pour a mudslide down her fudge maker.
• 35:40
  Shotgun a coolers light off her meat seat, or take a simple shot of rum from her bum. As Tray Song's
• 35:45
  aptly puts it, bottoms up. Oh, I love that song bottoms up. I thought you would. I know the whole
• 35:53
  Nicki Minaj rap part to that. Well, maybe one day will have to have you do it for the people.
• 35:58
  One day. One day. I'm actually offended because I am into Mexican restaurants, margaritas,
• 36:06
  and butt crack content. And I have not heard about this viral crime. I think it literally just went
• 36:12
  viral about a week and a half ago from the day we're recording this. Oh my god. Okay, okay, okay.
• 36:17
  I mean, that was before my trip, so I really don't have an excuse. Yeah, it was before your trip.
• 36:22
  I was so scared that you were gonna quickly just say the name and say I'm calling it first because
• 36:25
  I give you a grace period. Okay, you're like, okay, I'll give you two days time. You don't
• 36:32
  dip, it's mine. Yeah, if I got a ride, I'm right in this butt crack story. Damn, ma. I really kind of
• 36:38
  want to watch the video, even though I have to say that's very inappropriate to do in a Mexican restaurant.
• 36:46
  I will agree on that. But on the other token, if one of my friends in quotes takes a video of me and
• 36:55
  I'm hammer doing something idiotic and then post it online without me wanting it on there.
• 37:01
  That's not a real friend either. No, that's not a very good friend. I don't know how good a
• 37:06
  friend's they are. That's kind of why I wrote that they were sort of iffy with each other. Yeah, yeah.
• 37:11
  But she totally spread it and that wasn't making that up about him putting the funnel in his mouth
• 37:16
  and pretending as if to insert it. Yeah, he does that in the video. He lines up behind her and puts the funnel
• 37:22
  in his mouth and was like, and then what lines up? Oh God. He looks over at the camera like,
• 37:28
  does he do the bad boy thing? No, he doesn't do the bad boy thing.
• 37:33
  Where he puts a finger to his mouth. That was so funny when you said that. It just made me think
• 37:40
  of Chris Farley and I just wanted to put it in. I was hoping that D-Dull was true. Yeah, but a lot
• 37:46
  of the details are true. She really did whip out her boobs, did it the nip thing. Holy. And I know
• 37:52
  sometimes we write these silly body stuff in our stories. I say, oh, she got so hot and bothered,
• 37:57
  she just fluped a boob out for a moment. Yeah. But in this situation, when you see how that she
• 38:02
  acted when she got drunk, I could see her drawing him out to dinner by giving him a quick flash.
• 38:07
  Yeah. Sounds very making sense to me. It's all very inappropriate and everyone made mistakes here.
• 38:15
  Okay. But the betrayal and can I just say the Patreon I assume member is who you gave that friend
• 38:23
  role to, right? Oh yes, Chelsea. Thank you for being a patron. Chelsea R was it? I believe so.
• 38:28
  Yes. Even though you did have the role of being the uncomfortable friend that later snitched,
• 38:34
  we appreciate you, Chelsea, for being a felony level Patreon member. Thank you so much.
• 38:41
  If you guys want to be in our story too, you can. Just like Chelsea. Yeah. And you played a very
• 38:45
  integral part of the story because if you watched the video in a sense, you're watching it from your
• 38:49
  perspective. That's deep shit right there. But hopefully not too deep in that shit. If you know what I
• 38:56
  mean, ice cold. When you said her ass turned colder than the night of the margarita. Night she had a margarita
• 39:02
  in it. Oh my god. I died. And honestly, I would be really embarrassed if my grandmother saw a video of
• 39:09
  me doing that. Very embarrassed. I'm not saying that they were in the right because they were doing
• 39:15
  this all in public. I mean, if it wasn't Chelsea R recording it, it was probably anyone else there.
• 39:20
  You know, I just don't like that a friend put it on there. Yeah. That does suck. That's a very
• 39:25
  petty move. So what would you have to accomplish to drink a but margarita? Oh my god.
• 39:32
  To drink it off Jordan's butt or like a cute girl, but these are two different types of butt
• 39:39
  chugging, you know, let's go cute girl, but cute girl, but I wouldn't have to do much. Really.
• 39:45
  I'll do it for that sticker on the table right there. Honestly, god, it wouldn't take that much
• 39:53
  for me to do. Okay, well, how about this way? Let's put you in the girl's position. Okay. What would
• 39:58
  it take for you to be the margarita but. Okay, if Jordan came home and he was like, hey, baby,
• 40:05
  I'd just paid off all our debt. I'd be like, get me a funnel. What a real response. I like that.
• 40:12
  What about you? Oh my god. I don't know. You get us on number one on the Apple charts.
• 40:19
  If we are number one on the Apple charts, I'm setting it up and I'm going to be that friend
• 40:26
  Chelsea R. I'm going to be the friend that posted to our podcast social media if trevine and Emily
• 40:32
  do indeed do that. Okay. So viral. Wow. That was a good one. I'm a little offended. It didn't pop up
• 40:38
  on my feed because sounds like something I would enjoy. Mm-hmm. If it was anything related to salsa,
• 40:43
  I think you would have known. Yeah. I think you would have like felt it in the air. But then again,
• 40:48
  you did the ball sex salsa story and I hadn't heard of that one. That's a good point.
• 40:54
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• 41:08
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• 41:54
  So I also have a story from the news. And right now I currently have, I mean it's a decent handful.
• 42:06
  I think both you and I do we kind of keep story ideas that we see in the news like a storage
• 42:12
  unit full of them, right? We have all these ideas in there. I probably have 200 tabs open up on my
• 42:17
  Google Chrome on my phone and I'm just like, boy you're playing a dangerous game. That is so dangerous.
• 42:23
  I just kind of will copy the main little bit of it and put it in a note folder. That's what I do.
• 42:29
  Because yeah, the tabs can be very scary. So I have a handful of these and I was going to go through
• 42:35
  them until one night I woke up. I was kind of in and out of sleep. I was about to fall asleep and I
• 42:41
  shot right up in my bed and I was like, what if there was a crime out there where this and this
• 42:46
  happened? I immediately looked it up, found this one. Also, I've been telling you Trevin how I wanted
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  to do a story from the past. Yes. And this one does technically begin in the 1950s, but most of it
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  happens in the 90s. So I'm going to say this is a win-win. This is the story that had it all for me
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  in this moment. So anyway, without any other build up, here we go. Every individual assesses varying
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  characteristics which make them unique. Maybe it's their rare ability to remember every single food
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  item they had and on what day. I still remember the Tinder roast you made on March 12 of 2002.
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  Or maybe they have a distinct cackle that serves as a GPS if you lose them in a crowd.
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  But there is one way a person can lose all individuality from the moment they are conceived.
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  And that is by being a twin. For a fraternal twins, independence can be stolen over years of being
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  made to wear matching clothing to events. Identical twins are constantly called the wrong name
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  by their loved ones. And can join twins only get half a say about what goes into their body.
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  Although all twins share a connection of some sort, not all of them are similar in the eyes of the law.
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  Today, I'm here to share a mostly true tale of how twinning turned to sinning.
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  Rhae Dean Nugent and Jay Jean Nugent were twins born on July 13 of 1956.
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  Jay was slightly bigger than Ray, shoving himself past a smaller twin to exit the birth canal first.
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  They were fraternal twins, meaning they had slight differences in appearance. While Ray had green eyes,
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  Jay had brown. Ray's hair was straight as an arrow, just like his rule following personality.
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  Jay's hair on the other hand was wavy and wild, just like his rebel persona.
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  Regardless of their differences, their full names and wardrobes were nearly identical of each other.
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  The twins used the similarity to switch identities as needed while growing up.
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  As adolescents, Ray would take math tests that Jay was afraid to fail.
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  And Jay went to second base with Ray's girlfriend for him when he was too scared to make a move.
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  Yet, the older the brothers got, the more they drifted apart.
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  Ray wanted a normal, stable, and boring life. While it was clear that Jay desired an eccentric,
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  transient, and bold existence.
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  In 1988, Ray was in his early 30s and living well in the sunny state of California as a contractor.
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  It had been a few years since he had last seen or spoken to his twin brother, Jay.
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  Some of his closest friends would joke that his evil twin brother was all
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  employed to get him out of trouble. This theory always caused the room to erupt and laughter,
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  as Ray was nothing more than a delightful rule abiding citizen.
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  It was after one of these calm hangouts with his friends that Ray got into his vehicle and drove
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  himself home. He had made sure not to drink at the party, keeping his eyes steady and focused on
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  the road and his hands at 10 and 2. He cruised at an appropriate speed, yielded to oncoming traffic,
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  and even gave others the right way. Suddenly, an adorable squirrel darted out in front of Ray,
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  causing him to swerve into a ditch. Luckily, Ray, his car, and the squirrel were all safe. Yet,
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  a police officer pulled up behind him with their lights on.
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  I see you had an accident and I came by to make sure things were all right. Have you been drinking
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  tonight, sir? I swerve for a squirrel officer. I haven't had a drop of liquor and I can assure you
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  that I mean no harm on the road. Were you aware that one of your headlights is now out?
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  Good heavens no. I'll get that fixed right away. Before that, license and registration, please.
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  Ray eagerly handed over his documentation, sure that he would be back on the road in no time.
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  Only the encounter started taking much longer than he expected.
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  Each long moment of waiting in the driver's seat,
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  caused Ray to grow more worried about getting a ticket. His fears only intensified, when another
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  police cruiser parked behind the first cop. After what seemed like a lifetime, the two officers came
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  back to his vehicle. The first officer spoke again, with the second one standing behind her as backup.
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  Sir, you have an outstanding warrant for a bank robbery and shootout. We are going to need you to
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  put your hands behind your back and come with us. What? This has got to be some sort of a mistake.
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  For five hours at the station, Ray pleaded his innocence to the officers.
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  I promise I'm a good man. I follow all the rules. Have you checked into my evil twin brother?
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  Maybe he has something to do with this. But the cops just continued to gather round and laugh and
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  raise face. After hours of ridicule, one of the head detectives finally stepped in. His face looked
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  stoic, with burrowed brows and a frowny mouthy. Mr. Nugent, it appears there has been a mix-up with
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  your arrest. You see, when you told the officers that you had an evil twin brother, it sounded too
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  ridiculous to be true. However, we have indeed found proof of your twin existing. What was your
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  mother thinking naming you both Ray Dean and Jay Jean? I can't answer that question, but what I
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  can't say is I'm ready to get out of here. Here's the contact information to a member of the FBI
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  if you are to run into this issue in the future. Good luck out there, son. Must be rough having an evil
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  twin. Five years had gone by, with Ray having only minor inconveniences with law since his first
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  false arrest. Sure, he also experienced scorn unknown women claring and spitting at him on the streets.
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  But he tried not to take offense to it. He knew it must be his twin Jay they were really mad at.
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  Besides, he had a pretty great life of his own, regardless of what his twin may be up to.
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  The year was now 1993, and Ray decided to drive down to Malibu for a beach day. He parked his vehicle
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  under a shady tree and quickly walked toward the ocean. He had made it halfway there when he realized
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  he forgot his sunglasses in his car. Ray turned back and was alarmed to see a policeman parked next
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  to his vehicle. Sir, is this your vehicle parked right here under the shady tree? Why yes it is. I
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  thought I had snagged quite the spot for a beach day. You know what else sits underneath this shady tree?
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  A no parking sign, license and registration. Okay, but I have to warn you about my evil twin first.
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  Look, I have an FBI contact card for you to call with questions.
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  Ray reluctantly handed over his ID as the officer laughed off his warning and returned to the cruiser.
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  Not five minutes later, two other police cruisers pulled up behind the first officer with their
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  blue and red lights flashing. They stepped out, armed and aiming at Ray and shouted out demands.
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  Sir, stepped out of the vehicle and put your hands up. Oh my god, not again.
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  For years, Ray Dean Nugent had been mistaken multiple times for his twin
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  Jane G. Nugent's crimes by police officers. Even though the twins had slight differences in
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  appearances as they grew older, such as height, eye color and hair, it still became an issue.
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  While Ray's record was clean, Jay had a warrant out for his arrest for a 1985 armed robbery.
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  The robbery took place at the St. Laundry Bank and Trust Company in small town, Opelosa, Louisiana.
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  Jay was accused of stealing $7,000 from the bank before engaging local officers in a gun shootout
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  and then fling into the woods. So three years later, in 1988, when South Pasadena police pulled over Ray
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  after a minor traffic accident, his twin brothers arrest warrant was incorrectly linked to him.
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  Police held Ray for five hours before detectives discovered their mistake.
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  They then released Ray with an apology and gave him an FBI contact number, should he encounter a
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  similar problem. Get five years later, in 1933, a similar arrest happened after receiving a
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  parking ticket in Malibu, California. Only this time, Ray was held for much longer.
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  Despite receiving many calls from family in Arkansas, an Arkansas congressman, and an FBI agent
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  assisted by Ray in the investigation of his brother, he was still jailed without bill on an FBI
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  fugitive warrant from June 9 to June 22, 1993, a total of 13 days.
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  Officials say that the length of time held was particularly due to a mix-up in fingerprints
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  provided by the FBI and that it took nine days before Opelosa, Louisiana police, acknowledged that
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  his prints didn't match the suspect. It then took four more days before he was released.
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  Shortly after, Ray filed federal and superior court lawsuits against the Los Angeles County Sheriff's
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  Department for what he says was false imprisonment and malicious disregard of evidence showing that he
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  was not Jay. He was seeking $13 million in damages, a million dollars for every day he was kept
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  in jail cells with dangerous gangsters. In the end, the board of supervisors agreed to pay Ray a
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  settlement of $150,000 for wrongly putting him in jail for 13 days. Ray was quoted saying,
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  "I love my twin brother, you know. I've never been angry with him, but I am angry about the way
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  the police treated me. I didn't know fun on the streets when a policeman pulls a gun on you.
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  I've always understood it, but I'm tired of understanding it."
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  Authorities at the time believe Jay was somewhere out in the Canadian wilderness.
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  The connection between twins is a mysterious and powerful thing. Used for good, it can create
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  iconic movies or a lasting friendship for life, but used for evil, and it can consume the wrong person's
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  entire identity. For all you twins out there, beware, having an uncontrollable clone running around
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  is sure to come with double the trouble.
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  I can see how the idea of it sprung you to make this search. That is a fun idea that we've never
• 54:07
  done anything like that before. It makes me think of that gripply's fact. You did that one time
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  about the guy who didn't know he had a twin. Yes! I am very fascinated by twins. Yes, I did that
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  fact where they had actually vacation to the same spot. All their lives and never ran into each other,
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  which was crazy. This one, yeah, I specifically wanted to know if there had ever been a time where a
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  twin was blamed for another twins' crimes. Yes, that has happened. I found a few of them. A lot of
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  them were obviously more morbid crimes that we don't talk about. But this one grabbed me because it
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  was an older one like I wanted. It had the twin thing that I was going for. Yes, there was a
• 54:51
  shootout involved, but no one was killed or anything. It was a robbery and a shootout. He was pulled over
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  for the most ridiculous parking tickets and shit. I just thought it was perfect. It makes his brother
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  the petty criminal, but at the same time his treatment is also the petty accident as well. Yes!
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  I wasn't sure we were going to have another thing. Like a surprise or a twist. I was a second thing,
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  yeah. I was kind of trying at the beginning to make you think that maybe I was trying to get back at
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  you for fight clubbing me not long ago. I was trying to tease it. A lot of his friends thought his
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  evil twin was made up. I was trying to throw little things in there. But the main thing was that
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  his brother was a petty criminal. He technically was a petty criminal too because he kept getting pulled
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  over by police for different things. Parking in bad spots. Then he also said that they were being
• 55:47
  petty criminals for keeping him for the 13 days and he ended up getting money. So there was like a
• 55:52
  lot of different attacks. I totally get trying to sue for a million dollars a day. If I had to lose
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  that many days of my precious time. Yeah, I know. Oh my god. I can't imagine if that happened to me,
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  I would just have to go back to work Monday. Nobody would be like, "Oh well, those bills don't have
• 56:09
  to be due." Oh, this doesn't happen. This dude still missed out on a lot of stuff. I know. 150,000. It's a
• 56:15
  good amount of money, but it doesn't reset your life. I know. I know. This was not the first time.
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  These were the only two times that I had documentation of. In one of the articles that I found,
• 56:29
  it did say that this had happened many other times. That's why when I was kind of going through time,
• 56:34
  I was like, "He had a few interactions, but nothing horrible." Then I just talked about those. But
• 56:39
  apparently this was a very common thing in this guy's life. He had an FBI contact. He had the
• 56:46
  Senator of whatever of Arkansas vouching for him. There were all these people and still nobody
• 56:52
  listened. It's bizarre. One of the most frustrating things in the world is when you can communicate
• 56:56
  something and nobody seems to hear what you're saying or process what you're saying. I'm a person
• 57:03
  who overcommunicates because I try not to have a lot of drama issues because I feel like communication
• 57:07
  solves that. For him to say, "I have an evil twin," or, "Hey, I have this FBI card, a legit
• 57:14
  FBI card." At least just call this FBI card before you put me in cuffs. I know. For that to still fail
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  that has got to feel so helpless and awful. I can't imagine how frustrating that situation must be.
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  The dialogue that I wrote, I did purposely make it sound a little more far-fetched. I doubt he was
• 57:33
  like, "I have an evil twin brother." But having the FBI card. Still, he had something and I get that
• 57:40
  that can seem maybe made up too for someone who's desperate, but all they had to do was call the damn
• 57:46
  number and take it seriously a little. Even if that guy wasn't in the office or went to somebody
• 57:51
  who was there, I'm sure they could be like, "Oh yeah, the dude's got a weird tie in with this guy."
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  Easy. Yeah. So I'm glad he did get paid, but it was definitely not the payout he was asking for.
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  No. I was hoping he would at least just get the one millie. No, not even one millie. Damn.
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  A millie, a millie, a millie. No, none of that. Gosh dang trevine. Do we have a connection?
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  So this is the only thing I had. I was kind of just following all of the different back story of yours,
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  so I was kind of missing some, but I do have one connection for sure. Sun glasses. Sun glasses.
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  My manly men were so manly because they were the sunglasses on the back of their head. In the way
• 58:30
  it wasn't designed to be made to be cool. In one year's instances Ray had to go back because he forgot
• 58:35
  his sunglasses on his car. Oh my god. See, I forgot about that part of my story. I'm like,
• 58:41
  what did I tell sunglasses? Yeah. Yeah. I needed a way to get them back there quickly for storytelling
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  purposes. I mean, technically my guys didn't have sunglasses either, so. Yeah. No, made up. We felt
• 58:51
  it was a good plot device. Made up sunglasses got us to the plot for you all. So stay shady out
• 58:59
  there friends. And you know, it's a summer episode still, so maybe we just had summer and sunglasses
• 59:04
  on the brain. Honestly, the summer is coming to an end on this very month at some point. So yeah,
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  I get it. I get it. Well, I hope everyone out there is having the best week. And just remember,
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  no matter the crime, big or small, in the end, we're all doomed. Doom to drink a margarita from a dish.
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• 59:51
  petty crimes, send us your petty crime story to Live Laugh Larsony at gmail.com.
• 59:56
  And radar show the same way the couple from my story would rate their experience at rodeo
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  mechs in restaurant. Five stars, they still brought them a funnel. Radar show wherever you
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  rate podcasts, Apple Spotify or good pods.
• 1:00:16
  Likely as an homage to new California law legalizing recreationable.
• 1:00:21
  Let's keep this recreationable.
• 1:00:26
  Oh my god. Okay. Likely as an homage to new California law legalizing recreationable.
• 1:00:35
  No, I did not just say recreationable a game. Yep. Recreation.
• 1:00:42
  *sniff*