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- 0:01Speaker 1: It's Teal Talk in partnership with Gallagher. My name is
- 0:04Speaker 1: Rhys Parkinson. He is Jay Lawrence. Unfortunately, no relation. And
- 0:09Speaker 1: we have a third wheel today on the show who
- 0:11Speaker 1: we're going to announce very soon. Plus, we have Boye
- 0:15Speaker 1: Aluokan on the show. We've got J-Bell, Jason Bell on
- 0:19Speaker 1: the show as well. It's a very packed episode as
- 0:22Speaker 1: the Jags are now three and one, ready to board
- 0:27Speaker 1: that flight to London. So, Jay Lawrence... Welcome to the show, brother.
- 0:31Speaker 2: Oh, man. Do you know what? We've been waiting for
- 0:33Speaker 2: this for so long, haven't we? Like, we've been for
- 0:36Speaker 2: months and months and months, maybe even the best part
- 0:38Speaker 2: of a year, talking about how the Jags are going
- 0:39Speaker 2: to be back in London and this time they're going
- 0:41Speaker 2: to be playing two. And I don't think we could
- 0:43Speaker 2: have asked for it much better, Rhys, to have started
- 0:47Speaker 2: three and one going into these pair of home games.
- 0:50Speaker 2: And the anticipation is just, oh, it's just all there
- 0:53Speaker 2: at the moment, Rhys. It's all there.
- 0:54Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 0:55Speaker 1: No, the energy is definitely here.
- 0:57Speaker 4: I feel it.
- 0:58Speaker 1: I think it helped as well with the NFL being
- 1:00Speaker 1: in London last week. Just saw a lot of Colts,
- 1:02Speaker 1: a lot of Commanders jerseys. It's like, okay, it's that
- 1:05Speaker 1: time of the year that they're over here. So that's cool.
- 1:08Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel like we're ready. I'm ready for
- 1:11Speaker 1: this Sunday. I'm ready for the Sunday after two weeks
- 1:14Speaker 1: of Jags in a row here in the UK. I'll
- 1:17Speaker 1: take it. Plus, you know, we got Jason Bell on
- 1:21Speaker 1: the show today. That's a big name. We've got Foye
- 1:25Speaker 1: Oluokun on the show.
- 1:26Speaker 4: That's a big name.
- 1:28Speaker 1: We also have, last time I was speaking to this man,
- 1:31Speaker 1: it was on the beach in Jacksonville in the opposite of,
- 1:36Speaker 1: it used to be called the One Ocean Hotel. It
- 1:37Speaker 1: has a different name now, forgive me, but I can't
- 1:39Speaker 1: remember the new name. But we have Ayo. I get
- 1:45Speaker 1: Lola on the show. Let's go.
- 1:48Speaker 2: Let's go.
- 1:49Speaker 1: Former Jags, former Steelers. But we ain't going to talk
- 1:52Speaker 1: about the Steelers either. I think you spent some time
- 1:55Speaker 1: in the CFO, if I'm not mistaken.
- 1:57Speaker 3: Correct. With the Winnipeg Blue Bombers.
- 2:00Speaker 1: With the Winnipeg Blue Bombers. And then some time in
- 2:03Speaker 1: the Swiss, in NFL Europe.
- 2:06Speaker 3: Correct.
- 2:06Speaker 1: I want to hear about that as well.
- 2:07Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 2:09Speaker 1: But to me, you're always going to be a Jag.
- 2:12Speaker 1: I'm just putting it out there. Brother, how are you?
- 2:16Speaker 1: For those that may not be familiar, who are new
- 2:19Speaker 1: to the Jags, talk to us about your time in
- 2:21Speaker 1: Jacksonville and playing for the team.
- 2:24Speaker 3: Great to be on the podcast. Thank you guys for
- 2:26Speaker 3: having me. Good to see you again, Rhys. So I
- 2:29Speaker 3: joined the Jaguars in 2022, Doug Peterson's first year, and
- 2:32Speaker 3: I was there until the summer of 2024. New regime now.
- 2:38Speaker 3: Love what's going on at the Jaguars. They'll always be
- 2:40Speaker 3: my NFL team. The defense is balling. It's really good
- 2:44Speaker 3: to see. I think we're tied for the most picks
- 2:48Speaker 3: or the most turnovers over the last two years. So
- 2:52Speaker 3: that's amazing. The run defense is doing great. Yeah, it's
- 2:55Speaker 3: exciting times to be a Jags fan.
- 2:56Speaker 2: And I just want to really quickly point out, wait,
- 2:59Speaker 2: does that mean that in your playing history, you only
- 3:02Speaker 2: ever played one place warm and it was in Jacksonville?
- 3:05Speaker 2: Is everywhere else cold?
- 3:07Speaker 3: Everywhere else has been absolutely freezing, particularly Winnipeg.
- 3:12Speaker 2: That's it. So Jacksonville has to be your go-to team
- 3:16Speaker 2: no matter what, really, because it's the place where you
- 3:19Speaker 2: got to go to the beach. And do you know what?
- 3:21Speaker 2: We're going to speak to you today about not only
- 3:23Speaker 2: your history in Jacksonville playing for the Jags, but of
- 3:26Speaker 2: course the defence as well, the Jags defence, what you're
- 3:29Speaker 2: taking from it too. I guess before anything else though, Rhys,
- 3:33Speaker 2: we should really mention what's going on over the next
- 3:36Speaker 2: couple of weeks, particularly actually ticket news for the Jags
- 3:39Speaker 2: Texans at Wembley.
- 3:41Speaker 1: Thousand percent. So you can get your tickets at Wembley
- 3:45Speaker 1: right now. All you have to do is go over
- 3:49Speaker 1: to our website, jaguars.co.uk. Tickets are on General Sal. The
- 3:55Speaker 1: Jags hosted the Texans in the iconic. Give me a word, Ayo.
- 3:59Speaker 1: How would you describe Wembley? I'm going with iconic.
- 4:03Speaker 5: Iconic.
- 4:04Speaker 3: Historic.
- 4:05Speaker 2: Yes, historic. That's it.
- 4:07Speaker 1: Jay, you can't steal. Oh, I can't steal it.
- 4:11Speaker 2: I don't know if we can say much better than
- 4:13Speaker 2: iconic and historic, to be honest. It's not as good,
- 4:16Speaker 2: but atmospheric. We'll go with those. There's some good words.
- 4:19Speaker 2: I feel like they're okay.
- 4:20Speaker 3: Atmospheric.
- 4:20Speaker 2: I feel like they're okay, yeah.
- 4:22Speaker 1: No, we've sold it well. Not that it needs selling.
- 4:25Speaker 1: And this week, we're going to make the exciting announcement
- 4:28Speaker 1: of what's going on during the game weeks. Remember, you
- 4:32Speaker 1: can get down to Victoria. So you go to London
- 4:34Speaker 1: Victoria Tube Station, if you're listening from the US or outside,
- 4:39Speaker 1: and you're thinking, okay, where is this takeover? Well, it's
- 4:41Speaker 1: at Tilwood. It's actually called the Greenwood. So head over
- 4:44Speaker 1: to the Greenwood pub. We're calling it Tilwood for this week, well,
- 4:49Speaker 1: for the week of the Wembley game, of course. And
- 4:52Speaker 1: we can't wait. We've got a lot of events planned.
- 4:54Speaker 1: You're going to see Jason Bell. You're going to see
- 4:56Speaker 1: Phoebe Schechter as well hosting a Jags quiz. We have,
- 4:59Speaker 1: of course, Jay Lawrence. We've got Brian Sexton, the OG.
- 5:04Speaker 1: I hope he doesn't mind me calling him the OG,
- 5:05Speaker 1: but he's an OG. We've got the Jacksonville Raw cheerleaders.
- 5:10Speaker 1: Jackson DeVille is going to be there. Union Jackson, everything,
- 5:12Speaker 1: plus a lot of prizes up for grabs as well.
- 5:15Speaker 1: So keep your eyes out on our social media and
- 5:17Speaker 1: head over to jaguars.co.uk. More details are going to be
- 5:20Speaker 1: released this week and next as well.
- 5:23Speaker 3: Right.
- 5:24Speaker 1: Talk to me about, just to set the context as well,
- 5:27Speaker 1: your thoughts. Like Jay mentioned, we want to get your
- 5:29Speaker 1: thoughts on, especially the defense. Anthony Campanelli, what's your opinion
- 5:33Speaker 1: on him? And who were your... You had two DCs
- 5:38Speaker 1: during your time? I know you had Coach Nielsen.
- 5:40Speaker 3: Only one. Mike Caldwell. I left just before Nielsen.
- 5:44Speaker 2: Caldwell, okay.
- 5:45Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 5:45Speaker 1: And how does it work when you go into a team...
- 5:49Speaker 1: that relationship with, obviously you have your positions coach, but
- 5:52Speaker 1: with the DC, what is that like? And what's your
- 5:55Speaker 1: thoughts on Campanelli right now?
- 5:58Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, when you watch a defense, it's a
- 6:00Speaker 3: direct reflection of the DC. So I can tell, I've
- 6:04Speaker 3: never met Campanelli, but I can tell he's an aggressive guy.
- 6:07Speaker 3: You know, the defense is flying around, getting after the quarterback,
- 6:11Speaker 3: being very aggressive, taking a lot of risks. So I
- 6:13Speaker 3: can imagine what kind of DC he is, but the
- 6:15Speaker 3: DC really sets the tone for the defense. If you
- 6:18Speaker 3: see a defense that's aggressive, you've got an aggressive defensive coordinator.
- 6:22Speaker 2: Well, the defense was on point, wasn't it? And that
- 6:25Speaker 2: win against the Bengals, 22-17. Did you catch the game?
- 6:31Speaker 2: Were you able to just see what really stood out
- 6:35Speaker 2: for you in that match?
- 6:36Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, I watch every Jaguars game. Nice.
- 6:39Speaker 2: That's what we want to hear.
- 6:41Speaker 3: Obviously, Foye, AFC Defensive Player of the Week, balled out.
- 6:45Speaker 3: But I expect nothing less from him. Probably the smartest
- 6:48Speaker 3: football player I've ever met, especially on the defensive side.
- 6:52Speaker 3: You know, always racks up the tackles. Was no different
- 6:56Speaker 3: this week. Got the interception, which was great. I was
- 7:00Speaker 3: really encouraged by Travis Hunter. I love the way his
- 7:04Speaker 3: cornerback play is coming along. You know, he got that
- 7:07Speaker 3: pick that went viral where he gave T Higgins a
- 7:09Speaker 3: little bit of a shake. You know, he delivered a
- 7:12Speaker 3: big hit as well. So I was really encouraged by him.
- 7:14Speaker 3: But I think there's an unsung hero in the defense.
- 7:18Speaker 3: Here we go.
- 7:19Speaker 2: What's it going with?
- 7:20Speaker 3: Ventrell Miller.
- 7:21Speaker 2: There we go. Ventrell Miller.
- 7:23Speaker 3: Currently leading the team in tackles. Another really smart player.
- 7:27Speaker 3: Playing next to Foye, I'm sure, makes his job a
- 7:29Speaker 3: lot easier. Very physical. So the defense is trending in
- 7:33Speaker 3: the right direction. It's one of my favorite defenses to watch.
- 7:37Speaker 3: We're great against the run. And yes, definitely trending in
- 7:40Speaker 3: a good direction.
- 7:43Speaker 2: I guess we'll go into that conversation with Foye in
- 7:45Speaker 2: a moment, but just actually, you know, just touch a
- 7:48Speaker 2: bit more, Bon, about your relationship with him. Do you
- 7:49Speaker 2: remember like when you met him and what was he
- 7:51Speaker 2: like with you specifically?
- 7:55Speaker 3: Foye is as intelligent as he is, you know, as
- 8:01Speaker 3: talented as he is, he's such a hard worker. And
- 8:04Speaker 3: that's the thing I always respected most about him. I'm
- 8:06Speaker 3: also a hard worker. So, you know, with being in
- 8:09Speaker 3: the gyms, oftentimes it'd be just us two. We had
- 8:12Speaker 3: a locker pretty close to each other as well. And
- 8:14Speaker 3: Foy is a great guy, man. He's a hard worker.
- 8:16Speaker 3: He's talented. He's smart. He's a bit of a goofball.
- 8:19Speaker 3: Hope you don't mind me saying that, but he's a
- 8:21Speaker 3: funny guy. So yeah, we always had a great relationship.
- 8:25Speaker 2: Is there anything you want us to ask him?
- 8:27Speaker 3: Ask him who's faster, you or I?
- 8:33Speaker 2: Will he want to answer it? I guess we'll find out.
- 8:37Speaker 2: I guess we'll find out.
- 8:40Speaker 1: So I spoke to Foye at training camp and he
- 8:45Speaker 1: was ready for this season. And it doesn't surprise me
- 8:49Speaker 1: that what I was saying, because he was locked in
- 8:52Speaker 1: and focused and ready to go. And then Jay also
- 8:55Speaker 1: spoken to him. So let's check this out.
- 8:59Speaker 2: Welcome Foye, welcome to Tool Talk. Welcome back. How's it going, man?
- 9:02Speaker 2: You doing good?
- 9:03Speaker 4: I'm doing well. How about yourself?
- 9:06Speaker 2: I'm great. I'm great. Look, thank you so much for joining.
- 9:08Speaker 2: I've got so many different questions to ask you, but
- 9:10Speaker 2: I've actually been asked to ask you a question on
- 9:13Speaker 2: behalf of a former teammate of yours, actually, a fellow,
- 9:16Speaker 2: a fellow Brit. Ayo Oyolola. So I don't know if
- 9:20Speaker 2: you remember him from a few years ago. He said,
- 9:24Speaker 2: he said for me to ask you, who's faster, you
- 9:27Speaker 2: or him?
- 9:30Speaker 4: He's fast. He's way faster than me. He knows it.
- 9:32Speaker 4: I always tell the truth.
- 9:34Speaker 3: He's fast.
- 9:34Speaker 4: He's very fast. Yeah, he's a great athlete. So he
- 9:37Speaker 4: got it.
- 9:38Speaker 2: What's your memories of him and being in the facility
- 9:42Speaker 2: with him?
- 9:42Speaker 6: Yeah, he was, like I said, a great athlete, very
- 9:45Speaker 6: eager to learn the game. And the way he learned
- 9:48Speaker 6: was very, very rapid at that point. And then, yeah,
- 9:52Speaker 6: the dog, I mean, whatever we asked him to do,
- 9:55Speaker 6: he was doing it. So, you know, I guess the
- 9:58Speaker 6: ultimate team player, but it was just, very impressive how
- 10:00Speaker 6: athletic he was, a hard hitter. And then you know
- 10:03Speaker 6: his story. He really, you know, started learning football. He
- 10:05Speaker 6: was a linebacker at one point. He had to move
- 10:07Speaker 6: to deep. It's just the athleticism to be able to
- 10:10Speaker 6: be versatile, to be in so many different positions, but
- 10:12Speaker 6: really excel and make it all the way to professional
- 10:15Speaker 6: level was crazy.
- 10:16Speaker 4: So, yeah, he was a ball of athleticism, though.
- 10:20Speaker 2: He's going to be so happy that you said that
- 10:22Speaker 2: he was faster as well. I mean, he's going to be,
- 10:24Speaker 2: he's going to be. Well, look, congratulations for winning AFC
- 10:29Speaker 2: defensive player of the week, obviously after the win against
- 10:32Speaker 2: the Bengals. How do you, how do you feel? How
- 10:34Speaker 2: do these, do these things mean a lot to you?
- 10:37Speaker 6: Yeah, it definitely does. I'm kind of in the moment.
- 10:41Speaker 6: I was kind of already on how we beat the Eagles. So,
- 10:45Speaker 6: you know, getting that it, It's cool to be recognized
- 10:48Speaker 6: for sure because I definitely put in a lot of
- 10:49Speaker 6: hard work and I definitely always credit it to the
- 10:52Speaker 6: team in order to get that award the team needs
- 10:55Speaker 6: to win. So everybody did what they needed to do.
- 10:57Speaker 6: And I keep shouting out Rayon for making the last tackle.
- 11:00Speaker 6: And a lot of guys stepped up and came in
- 11:02Speaker 6: with some injuries through the game and we prevailed and
- 11:05Speaker 6: outstrained them to get that win.
- 11:07Speaker 4: So just being in the right spots and everybody doing
- 11:10Speaker 4: their parts helped me.
- 11:12Speaker 2: You know, there's been so much positive talk about the
- 11:14Speaker 2: Jags defense, not only this year, but last year, of course. And,
- 11:19Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of people in the offseason
- 11:21Speaker 2: saying after the number of interceptions than the defense got
- 11:24Speaker 2: last year, it's like, how can the defense continue to
- 11:27Speaker 2: do that? Like, surely there just has to be a
- 11:30Speaker 2: drop off at some point in the first few games
- 11:33Speaker 2: of the year. It doesn't seem that way, does it?
- 11:36Speaker 2: I mean, so far, so good. What's the secret sauce
- 11:39Speaker 2: for you?
- 11:40Speaker 6: It's communication and anticipation is the way that we prepare.
- 11:44Speaker 6: You can always drill, catching the ball and stuff, but
- 11:46Speaker 6: you're not in the right spot, anticipating a route to
- 11:49Speaker 6: be able to pass them off. Then credit the pass
- 11:51Speaker 6: rush or speeding up a lot of the quarterbacks, having
- 11:54Speaker 6: to throw it off time or feeling like they're about
- 11:56Speaker 6: to get hit if they throw it. But being able
- 11:59Speaker 6: to have that communication in the back end and see
- 12:02Speaker 6: the route before they happen and then being able to
- 12:04Speaker 6: break on the ball is very important, too. kind of
- 12:07Speaker 6: everybody working together, but just celebrating the little things in
- 12:10Speaker 6: order to lead to those interceptions.
- 12:12Speaker 4: I would kind of do it.
- 12:13Speaker 2: I mean, one highlight reel, one highlight interception was Travis
- 12:17Speaker 2: Hunter with his pick against the Bengals. I'm wondering if,
- 12:20Speaker 2: you know, if people were trying to, like doing impressions
- 12:22Speaker 2: of him in the locker room or something at the moment,
- 12:24Speaker 2: you know, doing that nice little juke after he caught
- 12:27Speaker 2: the ball.
- 12:27Speaker 6: I was joking with him that I could do that
- 12:29Speaker 6: when I was carrying a ball in peewee football, but
- 12:32Speaker 6: I don't think my body moved like that. In fact,
- 12:34Speaker 6: he still had that athleticism. That was crazy nasty. That's
- 12:39Speaker 6: something that he carries, a skill that he carries, and
- 12:42Speaker 6: we love when he does it.
- 12:43Speaker 2: What's it like playing with him and watching him grow,
- 12:47Speaker 2: especially now that he's playing significantly more snaps on the
- 12:50Speaker 2: defensive side of the ball?
- 12:51Speaker 6: It's exciting because we know how talented he is. Like
- 12:54Speaker 6: I'm saying, a lot of defense is being in the
- 12:55Speaker 6: right spot, so he has to see these looks and
- 12:59Speaker 6: understand where he fits in these puzzle pieces in order
- 13:02Speaker 6: to stop the pass game or the run game, so
- 13:04Speaker 6: the more confident he gets in where he's supposed to
- 13:06Speaker 6: be at. then you can see his playmaking ability come
- 13:09Speaker 6: forth and shine. So the more confident that we trust
- 13:13Speaker 6: him to be in the right spots, you're going to
- 13:15Speaker 6: see him keep dominating like that.
- 13:16Speaker 4: So I'm excited to see it keep happening.
- 13:19Speaker 2: You know, Travis Hunter, a guy that can play both ways.
- 13:22Speaker 2: I do feel like you're not getting the credit you
- 13:24Speaker 2: deserve though, Foye, because I did see this thing a
- 13:26Speaker 2: little bit earlier online. This was a tweet from a
- 13:30Speaker 2: few years ago. At 6'3, 200 pounds, Foye Oluokun, force
- 13:35Speaker 2: at wide receiver. His 669 receiving yards in 2011 is
- 13:40Speaker 2: one of the Bombers, your high school, best single season marks.
- 13:44Speaker 2: All league, all district, all state selection. I mean, look,
- 13:48Speaker 2: it sounds like you could still do a job on
- 13:50Speaker 2: the other side of the ball for you.
- 13:51Speaker 4: That was a lot of pounds ago, I'll tell you that.
- 13:53Speaker 4: But I was dynamic.
- 13:55Speaker 6: We had a great running back too, so I always
- 13:57Speaker 6: give him credit in my journey here.
- 13:59Speaker 4: So I didn't really have the proceeding yards.
- 14:01Speaker 6: Many times towards the red zone, they threw it up.
- 14:03Speaker 6: I went in and went and got it. But me
- 14:05Speaker 6: and him were definitely a dynamic duo. He went on
- 14:08Speaker 6: to be a superstar running back with the Cowboys eventually. And,
- 14:12Speaker 6: you know, he kind of inspired me to do my
- 14:14Speaker 6: thing here. So we were definitely very good. But I
- 14:17Speaker 6: was nice on offense as well. I also played defensive back.
- 14:20Speaker 6: I didn't play linebacker until I got to the NFL.
- 14:22Speaker 6: So it was something I had to learn. But I
- 14:25Speaker 6: was multifaceted, I'll tell you that.
- 14:28Speaker 2: If Coach Cohen, you know, put you out wide if
- 14:30Speaker 2: need be after, you know, if necessary, do you think
- 14:32Speaker 2: you could do a job?
- 14:33Speaker 4: I ain't doing that no more.
- 14:36Speaker 6: I'll run deep ball a game and hopefully I get
- 14:38Speaker 6: the intermediate routes or something. I'll do the dirty work
- 14:40Speaker 6: and block. Maybe if I run a deep ball, I'm
- 14:42Speaker 6: running off the field after that.
- 14:44Speaker 2: Yeah, I get that, man.
- 14:46Speaker 3: I get that.
- 14:46Speaker 4: Or red zone jump ball. I got it.
- 14:49Speaker 2: That's it. I'll tell you what, you know what, maybe,
- 14:51Speaker 2: maybe down the line, last, last game of your career,
- 14:54Speaker 2: you know, that Superbowl, maybe you, we can hope that
- 14:56Speaker 2: you're going to get that touchdown at some point. Uh,
- 15:00Speaker 2: now look, I mean, it'd be, I have to, I
- 15:01Speaker 2: have to mention it, didn't I? London soon. Of course. Um,
- 15:04Speaker 2: I'm hoping maybe it's one of your favorite places, you know,
- 15:07Speaker 2: outside of Florida, outside of the U S talk to
- 15:10Speaker 2: me about, um, you know, what you're most excited about
- 15:12Speaker 2: coming over him.
- 15:14Speaker 6: I just feel the atmosphere in the stadium. I think
- 15:16Speaker 6: it's so cool. Uh, playing in front of them. They're
- 15:20Speaker 6: all so excited to see us play because we're loud there.
- 15:23Speaker 6: And I'm, I'm a, I don't know if I get
- 15:25Speaker 6: clown for saying that. I love the way the international anthem,
- 15:27Speaker 6: I was God save the King, I guess. So it's
- 15:29Speaker 6: really cool. Just, uh, it's the atmosphere and energy that
- 15:32Speaker 6: you guys bring to the, to the stadium and seeing
- 15:35Speaker 6: you guys all galvanized around our sport like that. I
- 15:37Speaker 6: guess the world's sport. Now I just like being a
- 15:40Speaker 6: part of it. Then obviously seeing a new city, it's
- 15:42Speaker 6: not as new to me anymore, but I just like
- 15:44Speaker 6: seeing the diversity that the city has. And, um, seeing
- 15:47Speaker 6: all the different types of people kind of working together
- 15:50Speaker 6: and also bustle around. Yeah, it's really cool to me.
- 15:54Speaker 2: I mean, we always have the open practice, don't we,
- 15:56Speaker 2: as well. So that gives you a nice opportunity to
- 15:59Speaker 2: say hello and meet some British fans. I'm wondering if
- 16:02Speaker 2: it's a surprise every single time, you know, almost like
- 16:05Speaker 2: hearing the accent, almost being like, oh, you know, there
- 16:07Speaker 2: are some devout like Jags fans over here in the UK.
- 16:10Speaker 6: I had to readjust my ears when I heard your voice,
- 16:12Speaker 6: to be honest with you. My parents have accents, though,
- 16:16Speaker 6: so I'm used to all different types. I respect accents.
- 16:19Speaker 6: Everybody's speaking English, so we did all speak a little differently.
- 16:22Speaker 6: Got accents here in the countries, in the.
- 16:23Speaker 4: States, I mean, so, yeah.
- 16:25Speaker 2: Have you got plans for the flight? Do you have, like,
- 16:27Speaker 2: a routine? Like, I'm going to watch a film, I'm
- 16:29Speaker 2: going to sit next to... Is it just sleep? Is
- 16:31Speaker 2: it just sleep the whole way?
- 16:33Speaker 6: I sleep and I zone out. It's time for me
- 16:35Speaker 6: to relax. I think I'm so wound up most of
- 16:37Speaker 6: the time, like, when I get on a plane, I
- 16:39Speaker 6: naturally just sleep. uh, listen to music and sleep.
- 16:43Speaker 2: Do you have any advice for somebody that might not
- 16:44Speaker 2: be able to sleep on a plane?
- 16:46Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 16:46Speaker 3: It's tough.
- 16:47Speaker 4: I got no advice for you.
- 16:50Speaker 2: I got that.
- 16:51Speaker 4: That's not my, that's not my problem.
- 16:55Speaker 3: All right.
- 16:56Speaker 2: So that's good advice there from Foy. Well, it's not
- 16:57Speaker 2: my problem. Go to sleep, man. Go to sleep. Uh,
- 17:01Speaker 2: now look, you've got two games, uh, obviously in London, the,
- 17:05Speaker 2: the divisional matchup between the Texans, uh, In a couple weekends' time, obviously,
- 17:09Speaker 2: it's the Eagles first at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. Before that,
- 17:13Speaker 2: this Sunday, Eagles, tough team. Looks like they might have
- 17:17Speaker 2: some injury issues at the moment. But regardless of that,
- 17:22Speaker 2: how do the Jaguars get the win?
- 17:24Speaker 6: I think they play very hard, regardless of their injury.
- 17:28Speaker 6: Their scheme is very challenging. So it's really owning our
- 17:31Speaker 6: calls and playing the way that we play. That's the
- 17:33Speaker 6: only way that we win games here in Jacksonville is
- 17:35Speaker 6: owning what we do in a building. Making teams have
- 17:39Speaker 6: to play us instead of us. You know, always compensate
- 17:42Speaker 6: or trying to figure out exactly how to play other teams.
- 17:45Speaker 6: So we trust that our coaches figure out the good
- 17:47Speaker 6: game plan, but it's really how we make the calls
- 17:50Speaker 6: come to life. And we respect everybody that we play.
- 17:53Speaker 6: So no matter who they put on the field, they're
- 17:55Speaker 6: NFL players and they're very capable. They probably had film
- 17:58Speaker 6: playing the NFL before. I know Some of the guys
- 18:01Speaker 6: we expect them to play, I think, are great players.
- 18:02Speaker 6: So it's on us to make sure that we squash
- 18:05Speaker 6: momentum they're trying to get and make sure they don't,
- 18:08Speaker 6: you know, have positive plays through the game that help
- 18:10Speaker 6: them put them in position to win the game. We
- 18:12Speaker 6: have to do what we do in order to keep
- 18:14Speaker 6: our momentum going and then outlast them through the game.
- 18:18Speaker 2: And lastly, Foye, are you going to have any time
- 18:22Speaker 2: to try and go see some of our football when
- 18:24Speaker 2: you're over there, some soccer at all?
- 18:26Speaker 4: Yeah, I was.
- 18:28Speaker 6: Oh, with Cam, I was going to try, but they
- 18:30Speaker 6: said the game might be Saturday, and I play Sunday,
- 18:33Speaker 6: so that don't sound like me.
- 18:37Speaker 4: Saturday. So we'll see.
- 18:40Speaker 6: I'll have to see if I can handle all my
- 18:42Speaker 6: stuff early ahead of time, but I love watching soccer games.
- 18:46Speaker 6: I really want to get to a big-time soccer game
- 18:49Speaker 6: over there now, or if I can't do it now,
- 18:52Speaker 6: I'll be back one of the off-seasons of my life
- 18:54Speaker 6: because that's been something I always wanted to do. really
- 18:57Speaker 6: feel the atmosphere as a fan of soccer. I went
- 18:59Speaker 6: to the World Cup this past year. I was here
- 19:01Speaker 6: in the States. I saw Columbia play Portugal. So that
- 19:04Speaker 6: was really fun. I wanted to get to another one.
- 19:06Speaker 4: But I couldn't.
- 19:07Speaker 6: I love soccer. I love being a fan of sports.
- 19:09Speaker 6: So if I can't get to that game, I will.
- 19:12Speaker 6: But my priority is winning our football.
- 19:15Speaker 2: And I know you used to play a little bit
- 19:17Speaker 2: of soccer when you were younger. If I were to
- 19:19Speaker 2: bring a soccer ball to the practice, if I were
- 19:22Speaker 2: to put it next to you, do I get to
- 19:23Speaker 2: see any foyer soccer skills at all?
- 19:26Speaker 6: Yeah, they brought one to one of our preseason games
- 19:29Speaker 6: against the Saints. I was juggling around a little bit.
- 19:31Speaker 6: They had the camera rightfully so. But I feel like
- 19:36Speaker 6: I'm still capable of doing a little something with it.
- 19:39Speaker 3: Yeah. All right.
- 19:40Speaker 2: Look forward to it. Let's see if we can make
- 19:42Speaker 2: it happen. Foye, thanks so much for joining us.
- 19:44Speaker 4: All right. Nice seeing you.
- 19:46Speaker 1: Foye Oluokun with Jay Lawrence. What a guy. Foye is.
- 19:52Speaker 1: What a guy.
- 19:53Speaker 2: Just to clarify. Just to clarify, you meant Foye. Thanks
- 19:56Speaker 2: for that, man. Appreciate that. Yeah, cheers, mate. Yeah, thanks
- 19:59Speaker 2: for that. Thanks for that.
- 20:00Speaker 1: I get it. But we need to speak about that
- 20:04Speaker 1: game more, though, because, well, Io and Jay, how.
- 20:09Speaker 1: How big do you think that game was for the team?
- 20:12Speaker 1: When we were speaking at the start of the season,
- 20:14Speaker 1: that was one of the ones I kind of had
- 20:15Speaker 1: a star next to. Like, if you win this, it's
- 20:17Speaker 1: like a tone setter, I feel like. But what do
- 20:20Speaker 1: you both think?
- 20:21Speaker 3: I think it was massive. And the biggest stat for
- 20:24Speaker 3: me from the game was the 23 rushing yards allowed
- 20:28Speaker 3: in the whole game. That is bizarre. And that really
- 20:31Speaker 3: demoralizes a team when you can only get 23 yards
- 20:35Speaker 3: on the ground. Now, the pass defense needs a little
- 20:37Speaker 3: bit of work. They weren't bad. you know, in the
- 20:39Speaker 3: past game, the Bengals offense. But on defense, I think
- 20:42Speaker 3: that will set the tone for the Jaguars defense, but
- 20:44Speaker 3: also opposing offenses. They'll be going in knowing, okay, they're
- 20:48Speaker 3: not going to give us yards. We're going to have
- 20:49Speaker 3: to fight for it. So that was huge in my opinion.
- 20:52Speaker 2: It was one of those stats, wasn't it, where you
- 20:53Speaker 2: read it and you're like, nah, that must be like
- 20:54Speaker 2: in one quarter or something. It just doesn't make sense.
- 20:57Speaker 3: Or is that for one running back?
- 20:59Speaker 2: That's it. I was like, I don't quite understand that,
- 21:01Speaker 2: to be honest with you. But at the same time,
- 21:03Speaker 2: you know, I welcome it. Let's have more of it.
- 21:05Speaker 2: I think it's great. You know, the thing for me
- 21:08Speaker 2: is that I, I believe, and I hope that like,
- 21:11Speaker 2: you know, don't take this, people don't take this in
- 21:13Speaker 2: the wrong way, but if this was a previous season,
- 21:16Speaker 2: I don't know if the Jags walk away with that win,
- 21:20Speaker 2: to be honest with you, because this is an example
- 21:22Speaker 2: of where the Bengals, they, they had some things rolling, right?
- 21:28Speaker 2: You know, Joe borrow is a good quarterback. It felt, yeah. Okay. Their,
- 21:31Speaker 2: their run game wasn't great, but they could move the ball.
- 21:35Speaker 4: Okay.
- 21:36Speaker 2: And I felt like when it was so close and
- 21:39Speaker 2: the Jags had some chances to put points in the
- 21:41Speaker 2: board and it didn't. And even right at the end,
- 21:43Speaker 2: I was thinking when Parker Washington, it looked like he
- 21:45Speaker 2: put the game to bed and he didn't. I was like,
- 21:48Speaker 2: this could just go out of the Jags hands because
- 21:50Speaker 2: we're just used to seeing it. Sorry to say, but
- 21:52Speaker 2: throughout the years we are, we are used to seeing it.
- 21:55Speaker 2: But there was this confidence inside me though, that over
- 21:58Speaker 2: the last couple of seasons, we have seen a different
- 22:00Speaker 2: Jacksonville Janky was side and that are able to see
- 22:02Speaker 2: out wins. And I think that as much as anything else,
- 22:04Speaker 2: and you can tell me otherwise, I suppose, is how
- 22:06Speaker 2: much of this is a mental thing? Because it feels
- 22:09Speaker 2: like that's really been strengthened over the last couple of seasons.
- 22:14Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Liam Cohen, I've never had the pleasure
- 22:16Speaker 3: of meeting him, but I've only heard good things from
- 22:19Speaker 3: my former teammates. They all love him. He's an intense guy, apparently,
- 22:23Speaker 3: but he's intense because he cares. So yeah, when I
- 22:27Speaker 3: look at the Jaguars, when I look at particularly their
- 22:29Speaker 3: first half performance too, I think the Bengals only scored
- 22:32Speaker 3: the field goal in the first half. You know, that's
- 22:34Speaker 3: a mentally strong team. That's a dominant team. And to
- 22:37Speaker 3: your point, Jay, the ability to continue and, you know,
- 22:42Speaker 3: consistently finish games off. That's the mark of a good team.
- 22:46Speaker 3: Good teams find a way to win. Doesn't always look pretty.
- 22:48Speaker 3: And that's what the Jacksonville Jaguars are doing right now.
- 22:51Speaker 2: Ayo, can you just tell us when about, because obviously
- 22:53Speaker 2: you joined the Jacksonville Jaguars as part of the International
- 22:57Speaker 2: Player Pathway program, right? So this is when international players
- 23:00Speaker 2: get the chance to join NFL teams. which has since
- 23:02Speaker 2: expanded since you left. So there's more opportunities now than
- 23:07Speaker 2: there ever has been. Can you tell us what it
- 23:10Speaker 2: was like going into the Jaguars dressing room on that
- 23:14Speaker 2: first day?
- 23:16Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, it's hard to put into words. The
- 23:20Speaker 3: best way I could put it is like, is this
- 23:23Speaker 3: really happening right now? You know, because I was a
- 23:26Speaker 3: Jaguars fan before I joined the Jaguars.
- 23:29Speaker 2: Oh, no way. That's even better.
- 23:30Speaker 3: So, you know, Trevor Lawrence daps me up, Zay Jones,
- 23:34Speaker 3: all these guys, and they're so friendly and welcoming. Um,
- 23:38Speaker 3: and Doug Peterson and Trent were great too. Just everyone
- 23:41Speaker 3: was really excited to see me learn about my story,
- 23:44Speaker 3: committed to helping me grow as a player. So it
- 23:47Speaker 3: was a bizarre feeling, but it definitely helped that everyone
- 23:49Speaker 3: was so welcoming.
- 23:51Speaker 1: How old was he when you joined?
- 23:52Speaker 3: 23 years old. Wow. Yeah. So pretty young. Well, depends
- 23:58Speaker 3: how you look at it.
- 23:59Speaker 1: No, definitely.
- 24:01Speaker 2: Incredibly young it must have been strange like walking about
- 24:03Speaker 2: though and just being like trevor lawrence you know or
- 24:06Speaker 2: just like you know it's like hello josh heinz allen
- 24:09Speaker 2: oh you are as big as i thought you were
- 24:10Speaker 2: oh yeah you're.
- 24:11Speaker 3: Actually bigger than i thought you were treyvon as well
- 24:15Speaker 3: treyvon came in the same year as me largest human
- 24:17Speaker 3: being i've ever met yeah we had a really good
- 24:20Speaker 3: rookie class actually we had devin treyvon you know a
- 24:23Speaker 3: lot of guys who were pretty good.
- 24:25Speaker 2: I mean, it must have been quite a culture shock, though.
- 24:28Speaker 2: I mean, not even just like living in the US,
- 24:29Speaker 2: of course, but like, you know, just being around a
- 24:33Speaker 2: completely different group of people with different life experience, you know,
- 24:37Speaker 2: as much as anything else. And then that day-to-day practice,
- 24:41Speaker 2: which I guess you hadn't had in the same way
- 24:44Speaker 2: before that.
- 24:45Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'd been part of a pro set-up before
- 24:47Speaker 3: in the CFL. The biggest shift was the heat in Jacksonville.
- 24:53Speaker 3: You know, training twice a day in that heat, that
- 24:56Speaker 3: was insane. But you get acclimated to it pretty quickly.
- 25:00Speaker 3: You know, NFL workdays can be anywhere between 12 and
- 25:03Speaker 3: 14 hours. You know, so you live at the facility.
- 25:08Speaker 3: It was great. It was great. I was from London
- 25:10Speaker 3: and people were interested in my story, but I didn't
- 25:13Speaker 3: feel different in any way. You know, I felt like
- 25:15Speaker 3: a guy who came to play, contribute, make the team better.
- 25:19Speaker 3: That's the way they made me feel. And yeah, it
- 25:21Speaker 3: was great.
- 25:22Speaker 2: Uh, this might be the most serious question that I
- 25:24Speaker 2: want to ask today, actually. Um, at what point did
- 25:27Speaker 2: people stop, um, uh, doing your accent?
- 25:30Speaker 3: Never at no point every single day I went in.
- 25:35Speaker 3: So yeah, it was great though.
- 25:39Speaker 1: And, and, uh, what do you think of the, uh,
- 25:42Speaker 1: kid that's killing it at the moment? Say to try or, uh, in, uh,
- 25:47Speaker 1: for the dolphins. yeah what's your is it kind of
- 25:50Speaker 1: you feel a lot of um kind of pride to
- 25:53Speaker 1: see another brick go over there and and ball.
- 25:57Speaker 3: Out 100 i actually trained with seydou when i was
- 26:00Speaker 3: 20 and so he must have been 16 and he
- 26:04Speaker 3: was at the nfl academy and i saw how good
- 26:06Speaker 3: he was from there and i knew he was an
- 26:08Speaker 3: nfl player when i looked at him there so to
- 26:10Speaker 3: see him go to the schools he did an impact
- 26:13Speaker 3: you know A lot of people from my generation who
- 26:15Speaker 3: played football didn't get the opportunity to go to college.
- 26:18Speaker 3: So seeing him do that, get drafted and contribute on Sundays,
- 26:22Speaker 3: it's amazing. And, you know, with people like him, international
- 26:25Speaker 3: football is only going to grow. So it's great to watch.
- 26:29Speaker 2: How does that make you feel though? Because I guess
- 26:30Speaker 2: you were like part of like a real like, you know, kicking,
- 26:33Speaker 2: not kicking it off per se, but you were one
- 26:34Speaker 2: of the, probably the first generations to get a real
- 26:37Speaker 2: good chance at going over there and now to see
- 26:40Speaker 2: it flourishing. How does, how do you feel?
- 26:43Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, it feels surreal. You know, this wasn't
- 26:47Speaker 3: the norm even five years ago. You know, having a
- 26:50Speaker 3: kid born and raised in London, starting to play the
- 26:52Speaker 3: sport late into his teens and then get drafted by
- 26:55Speaker 3: the Miami Dolphins. So it's really encouraging. And I just
- 26:58Speaker 3: want to see more of it. You know, I'd love
- 27:00Speaker 3: it if every year there were kids from the UK
- 27:02Speaker 3: who were drafted and most importantly, at the grassroots level.
- 27:06Speaker 3: I hope that kids are looking at guys like Seydoux
- 27:08Speaker 3: old guys like me, you know, and Dayo, who's at
- 27:11Speaker 3: the Cowboys. He's also from the UK. And thinking, you
- 27:14Speaker 3: know what? I want to play American football. I can
- 27:16Speaker 3: take it somewhere. That's my grand aim.
- 27:20Speaker 1: If you went back, which college would you have wanted
- 27:22Speaker 1: to go to?
- 27:24Speaker 3: LSU.
- 27:25Speaker 2: Oh, what's this? What's up here? What's this up here, man?
- 27:30Speaker 2: What's going on up here above me? I've got a
- 27:32Speaker 2: little flag going on.
- 27:33Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my college team, man.
- 27:35Speaker 4: Okay.
- 27:36Speaker 2: Rhys is thinking, not Colorado. I was hoping you were
- 27:41Speaker 2: going to say Colorado.
- 27:42Speaker 1: You know I'm playing for Coach Prime. You're my guy,
- 27:44Speaker 1: Coach Prime.
- 27:44Speaker 3: You guys aren't doing too good right now, are you?
- 27:49Speaker 2: Are you going to be seeing some former teammates of
- 27:51Speaker 2: yours next week when the Jags are here?
- 27:55Speaker 3: Unfortunately, I might not be able to make it back
- 27:57Speaker 3: to London. I'm based in Atlanta. A lot of the
- 28:01Speaker 3: guys have been hitting me up asking me for restaurants
- 28:03Speaker 3: or recommendations and stuff. So I'll steer them in the
- 28:05Speaker 3: right direction. Did he say Nando's? Nando's.
- 28:08Speaker 2: I have to go to.
- 28:10Speaker 3: Nando's every day and try something new every single day.
- 28:13Speaker 1: Right, we're going to have our predictions coming up. But
- 28:16Speaker 1: first is Jay and Jason Bell.
- 28:20Speaker 2: Welcome back. The UK's premier NFL analyst, former NFL player,
- 28:25Speaker 2: of course, Jason Bell, back to Teal Talk. J-Bo, I need,
- 28:28Speaker 2: I mean, I need, we need to start. I feel
- 28:30Speaker 2: like we need just to get this off our chest.
- 28:32Speaker 2: I feel like we need to repair some relationships right now.
- 28:35Speaker 2: I saw you on Thursday, didn't I? For the Sky
- 28:37Speaker 2: Sports NFL show house. And I was tasked to go
- 28:40Speaker 2: up on stage and give my hot take and argue
- 28:44Speaker 2: with you. And my hot take was the Jags offense
- 28:47Speaker 2: was the best in the league. And I knew, I
- 28:49Speaker 2: knew how you feel. And I was thinking he's going
- 28:52Speaker 2: to have a tough time arguing this, but he's going
- 28:53Speaker 2: to have to do it. And you did it. You
- 28:55Speaker 2: did it.
- 28:56Speaker 3: That was a difficult situation.
- 28:58Speaker 5: I mean, I had to immediately question our friendship, but
- 29:01Speaker 5: I understood the challenge and we were there to make
- 29:04Speaker 5: a good conversation and get the party started right. And
- 29:07Speaker 5: it was difficult because I was negotiating against myself. And
- 29:11Speaker 5: that's one of the number one things they teach you
- 29:12Speaker 5: in business school not to do. And I went out
- 29:16Speaker 5: there and did it anyways.
- 29:17Speaker 3: But you had a very good argument.
- 29:20Speaker 5: You framed the question in a way that I really
- 29:22Speaker 5: did not have wiggle room. So congratulations to you because
- 29:26Speaker 5: you know what? Asking the question the right way is
- 29:30Speaker 5: really the battle.
- 29:31Speaker 3: You did a good job.
- 29:32Speaker 2: Oh, thanks, man.
- 29:33Speaker 3: Thanks, man.
- 29:34Speaker 2: It was fun to see you. It was fun to
- 29:36Speaker 2: have an argument with you on stage. And we had actually,
- 29:38Speaker 2: it was a vote. There was a crowd there. wasn't there?
- 29:40Speaker 2: And they had to vote who won.
- 29:43Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 29:43Speaker 2: And I did not win. So well done to you, Jay, bro.
- 29:45Speaker 3: Well done to you.
- 29:46Speaker 5: I sold the dream of Dallas Cowboys and some other stuff.
- 29:51Speaker 3: You know what?
- 29:52Speaker 5: Whenever you're backed up against the wall and you got
- 29:54Speaker 5: to fight your way out, Uh, you know, I've learned from, uh, leaders,
- 29:58Speaker 5: you shouldn't follow, just be loud and say things that
- 30:00Speaker 5: aren't true.
- 30:03Speaker 2: So at one point in this J bell, you got
- 30:07Speaker 2: up out of your chair and I was like, oh,
- 30:08Speaker 2: this is, this is when I know he's going to
- 30:10Speaker 2: get all passionate. This is what I know. He's all going. So, uh,
- 30:13Speaker 2: congratulations to you. I'm still bitter. Um, let's, uh, let's
- 30:17Speaker 2: crack on. Let's do these five questions. And obviously Jags
- 30:20Speaker 2: beat the Bengals at the weekend. We'll start with who
- 30:24Speaker 2: deserves the game ball.
- 30:26Speaker 3: Man, I love this guy.
- 30:28Speaker 5: He's a leader of the defense, finds a way to
- 30:32Speaker 5: make plays, is great at communicating.
- 30:34Speaker 3: And I'm talking about Foye, the linebacker.
- 30:36Speaker 5: Biggest play in the moment, when it mattered, was that
- 30:39Speaker 5: fourth quarter interception. I mean, Joe Burrow, they're driving down
- 30:43Speaker 5: to get a chance to win, to score, and he
- 30:47Speaker 5: comes up with a big play. And the one thing
- 30:48Speaker 5: I love about this defense is, man, they find a
- 30:51Speaker 5: way to make plays in critical situations. They're prepared for it.
- 30:55Speaker 5: They understand it. But you've got to have the playmakers
- 30:58Speaker 5: to do it. And Foye, man, he really clogs up
- 31:02Speaker 5: the middle of that field because of his awareness and anticipation.
- 31:06Speaker 3: Huge play.
- 31:07Speaker 2: So many different answers to this one and what was
- 31:09Speaker 2: a really tight-fought game, of course. But where was the
- 31:12Speaker 2: game won?
- 31:14Speaker 3: You know what?
- 31:15Speaker 5: NFL is a physical game. It's a physical game. You've
- 31:18Speaker 5: got to stop the run and you have to be
- 31:21Speaker 5: able to run. And that's what I think The game
- 31:24Speaker 5: was won, especially on the defensive side. They shut down
- 31:27Speaker 5: the run of Cincinnati. So you make Joe Burrow one-dimensional.
- 31:30Speaker 5: Now he can beat you like that, but it gives
- 31:33Speaker 5: you a chance. You can run coverage. You can attack
- 31:37Speaker 5: him in the pocket, which they did. So their ability
- 31:40Speaker 5: to stop the run really helped them keeping Cincinnati from
- 31:43Speaker 5: being balanced. And then their ability to run the ball
- 31:45Speaker 5: on the other side was key. So the running game
- 31:47Speaker 5: is where it was won.
- 31:49Speaker 2: What about the under-the-radar player or moment? Man.
- 31:53Speaker 3: I like this guy. First of all, you know I
- 31:55Speaker 3: watch the DBs. I mean, that's what I do. Raewon Lane.
- 31:59Speaker 3: Raewon Lane. Man, I'm telling you.
- 32:03Speaker 5: He made that tackle on Chase Brown. right short of
- 32:08Speaker 5: the sticks great awareness closing speed all that but he
- 32:11Speaker 5: was all over the field making tackles and i'm always
- 32:14Speaker 5: looking because in a game on monday that's the one
- 32:18Speaker 5: thing a coordinator would say you know you see all
- 32:21Speaker 5: the guys with all the stats but there are plays
- 32:23Speaker 5: and moments where people don't get the credibility and and
- 32:28Speaker 5: the notice they should the credit and notice and he
- 32:32Speaker 5: does because that play was huge. Came up with a
- 32:35Speaker 5: big tackle all over the field. Also, man, it was
- 32:38Speaker 5: hard because Britton Strange, man, he was doing his thing
- 32:40Speaker 5: out there. But I give it to Lane, the safety.
- 32:44Speaker 2: He had Britton Strange trying his hurdle at some point
- 32:47Speaker 2: as well. I mean, like, you know, sometimes it's successful.
- 32:51Speaker 2: Sometimes it's not, Brendan. You know, sometimes it's not.
- 32:54Speaker 3: Hey, you got to keep jumping.
- 32:56Speaker 2: You got to keep jumping.
- 32:58Speaker 3: Hey, man, keep jumping, man. Don't be scared. He was balling.
- 33:01Speaker 3: I love the way he was finding his ways open
- 33:03Speaker 3: in the zone.
- 33:03Speaker 5: I mean, the fact that you saw Trevor get him
- 33:06Speaker 5: the ball quickly when they anticipated pressure.
- 33:09Speaker 3: They're on the same page. I mean, that's key. Think
- 33:12Speaker 3: about the receiving threats this team has. Outstanding. But I
- 33:16Speaker 3: know you got more questions.
- 33:17Speaker 2: Well, I just want to touch on Lane again, actually, because,
- 33:20Speaker 2: you know, you know better than nearly anybody, J-Bell, that
- 33:24Speaker 2: just because you're in the league doesn't mean that you're
- 33:27Speaker 2: in the league forever. You're always striving and you're always
- 33:29Speaker 2: trying to make sure that you can justify your place
- 33:32Speaker 2: in the roster. And and he's been in this is
- 33:34Speaker 2: his second year in the league. And emotionally, to have
- 33:39Speaker 2: maybe the biggest play in the entire game. Talk to
- 33:42Speaker 2: me how that feels and what that does for you
- 33:45Speaker 2: mentally after that happens.
- 33:47Speaker 5: Well, it gives you confidence. In the play, you're not
- 33:49Speaker 5: thinking about it. But this is the importance of it.
- 33:53Speaker 5: As a safety, especially in the league now, open field
- 33:56Speaker 5: tackling is at a premium because those safeties are playing
- 33:59Speaker 5: with depth. So they're coming downhill, right? They got to
- 34:02Speaker 5: be able to tackle in space. And if you can
- 34:05Speaker 5: do that, you have trust. So they will put you
- 34:08Speaker 5: back on the field if they know you can make
- 34:10Speaker 5: open field tackles and you can communicate at the safety position.
- 34:14Speaker 3: That is the key.
- 34:15Speaker 5: So right now he is, he's probably, obviously to be
- 34:18Speaker 5: in the league, you got to trust and believe in yourself.
- 34:20Speaker 5: But the coaches, by putting them out there and by
- 34:23Speaker 5: those plays, that shows them, hey, we can trust this guy.
- 34:26Speaker 3: We need him out there on the field. He'll make sure.
- 34:28Speaker 3: Think about it. You're the safety.
- 34:30Speaker 5: You got to be back there to keep everything in
- 34:32Speaker 5: front of you and make it safe. And he did
- 34:33Speaker 5: that huge play.
- 34:35Speaker 2: Yeah, you never know. Like, you might look back on
- 34:36Speaker 2: that in however many years' time and think, you know,
- 34:39Speaker 2: that was one of the biggest moments in my career. And,
- 34:41Speaker 2: you know, it might propel things, you know.
- 34:44Speaker 3: Without a doubt.
- 34:45Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 34:45Speaker 3: No doubt.
- 34:46Speaker 1: All right.
- 34:46Speaker 2: Obviously, next game is in London against the Philadelphia Eagles,
- 34:49Speaker 2: Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. We're talking improvements, J-Bell.
- 34:52Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, what was it, 13 penalties for over
- 34:56Speaker 5: 120 yards?
- 34:57Speaker 2: I knew what you were going to say.
- 35:00Speaker 5: I mean, the one that hurt me, man, is Travis
- 35:02Speaker 5: Hunter's interception. I mean, oh gosh, wiped out. How sweet
- 35:06Speaker 5: was that? He's playing outstanding too. Oh man, I love it.
- 35:10Speaker 5: The way he is finding his footing right now at
- 35:13Speaker 5: the position, it shows when you can focus on something,
- 35:16Speaker 5: how good you can get. But yeah, too many self-inflicted mistakes. Now,
- 35:20Speaker 5: I will give Are Jacksonville Jaguars a way out here?
- 35:24Speaker 5: I'm going to give them a little bit because the
- 35:26Speaker 5: league as a whole, man, they're throwing a lot of flags, right?
- 35:29Speaker 5: They're throwing a lot of flags. And that might be
- 35:31Speaker 5: in the beginning of the year. Refs just trying to
- 35:33Speaker 5: make sure they understand we got to clean things up.
- 35:35Speaker 5: We're going to make it hard out of you. But
- 35:37Speaker 5: those are things you cannot do. And especially on offense.
- 35:41Speaker 5: Defensive penalties sometimes I'm okay with. But offensive penalties will
- 35:46Speaker 5: set you behind, which, you know, behind the sticks, which
- 35:49Speaker 5: we know makes it harder. So they're drive killers. So
- 35:53Speaker 5: you want to make sure you clean those up on
- 35:55Speaker 5: offense with a lot of discipline.
- 35:57Speaker 2: How do the Jags beat the Eagles, J-Bell?
- 36:00Speaker 5: You know, going in this game, you look at the
- 36:02Speaker 5: Eagles and you want to, obviously, you see who's available, right?
- 36:05Speaker 5: Who's available for them? So receivers out, running back might
- 36:10Speaker 5: be out. You still got to stop the run. You
- 36:13Speaker 5: need to stop this run and make it.
- 36:15Speaker 3: Very hard on J-Bell. All right, brother.
- 36:17Speaker 5: To try to throw the ball, especially in third and
- 36:19Speaker 5: long situations, with receivers that aren't necessarily beating man-to-man coverage.
- 36:24Speaker 5: You got guys that can cover tight. You want to
- 36:26Speaker 5: make it very hard and one-dimensional on this quarterback to
- 36:30Speaker 5: try to find open receivers. But you have to stop
- 36:33Speaker 5: the run to do that. Then on the other side,
- 36:36Speaker 5: you want to obviously establish to run. Keep leaning on
- 36:39Speaker 5: that running game because you think about it. They're always
- 36:43Speaker 5: ahead of the sticks. This running game is really key.
- 36:45Speaker 5: And this is one thing I love about Liam Cohen.
- 36:47Speaker 5: Think about everywhere he's been. He hasn't put it on
- 36:50Speaker 5: the quarterback all the time. Balanced attack. Trevor's got to
- 36:54Speaker 5: make plays. The threat of the run is there. Trevor's
- 36:58Speaker 5: throwing with confidence. That's the key. So keep leaning on
- 37:00Speaker 5: that running game. And then obviously you want to keep
- 37:03Speaker 5: Trevor protected. The Eagles pass rush. You don't want them
- 37:06Speaker 5: to come to life against you. So that'll be the
- 37:09Speaker 5: key to this game. And just you want to make
- 37:11Speaker 5: sure you put them away quickly, man.
- 37:13Speaker 3: Right now.
- 37:14Speaker 5: So Phillies, Phillies got some issues. So you want to
- 37:16Speaker 5: make them feel it early in the game where nothing's working.
- 37:19Speaker 2: Just what you were saying about Liam Cohen as well.
- 37:21Speaker 2: I was reading something the other day about how he's
- 37:24Speaker 2: he's really good with playing with traits. So he is
- 37:26Speaker 2: he'll establish, you know, let's say that a certain player
- 37:30Speaker 2: is is on the field. You're thinking it's going to
- 37:32Speaker 2: be this sort of play and it keeps doing it.
- 37:34Speaker 2: And then he changes it up completely and relies on
- 37:36Speaker 2: that keeps going, keeps going. So he's making the defense
- 37:39Speaker 2: think all the time, okay, this player's on the field.
- 37:42Speaker 2: We've established now it's going to be a run play.
- 37:44Speaker 2: And then he completely flips it up. How important is that?
- 37:48Speaker 5: Okay, think about how you just broke that down and
- 37:50Speaker 5: explained that. First of all, to answer your question, very important.
- 37:54Speaker 5: That being said, he has to, in the moment, make
- 37:58Speaker 5: that happen. So in the moment, the stress, you got
- 38:01Speaker 5: all your analytics, you got your play sheet, but it's
- 38:03Speaker 5: a feel. Play calling is a feel in that you
- 38:06Speaker 5: have all the situations, but when do you make that decision?
- 38:09Speaker 5: And I think his understanding and feel of the game
- 38:12Speaker 5: is what makes him special. Obviously, he's ready, he's prepared,
- 38:17Speaker 5: but you can see the confidence that Trevor has in
- 38:20Speaker 5: those two together and the way they see the game.
- 38:23Speaker 5: They're seeing it, feeling it, and understanding it the same way.
- 38:26Speaker 5: You might have something on the sheet. But you got
- 38:28Speaker 5: to look at that player on the field and think
- 38:30Speaker 5: you can go out and do it right now. I
- 38:33Speaker 5: see because this is the way the game is flowing
- 38:35Speaker 5: and lean into that. And that's the that's what I
- 38:37Speaker 5: love about live football. And that's the essence of play calling.
- 38:41Speaker 2: Well, we need to give give the flowers, give all
- 38:43Speaker 2: the credit to Reese. He's not here. So we can
- 38:45Speaker 2: we don't have to do it for that long because,
- 38:47Speaker 2: you know, I don't want his ego like, you know,
- 38:48Speaker 2: filling up or whatever he went for. A 2017 win
- 38:52Speaker 2: against the Bengals ended up being 22-17. So, you know,
- 38:55Speaker 2: credit to him. That's decent going, J-Bell. That's decent.
- 38:59Speaker 3: He's on a roll. He's locked in. You know what
- 39:01Speaker 3: I'm saying?
- 39:01Speaker 5: Who knows who he's talking to over there, man? He's
- 39:04Speaker 5: got a lot of phone numbers. So we'll give him that. But, yeah,
- 39:07Speaker 5: it's tough, man. So credit to him.
- 39:09Speaker 3: But you're right. Let's not celebrate him too much.
- 39:10Speaker 2: No, not too much. Not too much.
- 39:12Speaker 3: All right.
- 39:12Speaker 2: Well, we'll get into his prediction. We'll go into my
- 39:14Speaker 2: prediction in a bit as well. But first, we'll focus
- 39:16Speaker 2: on you. Eagles up on Sunday. What are you saying?
- 39:20Speaker 5: All right, so this is going to be a tough one.
- 39:24Speaker 5: I'm going to go 24-20 Jacksonville. but I think they're
- 39:31Speaker 5: going to be up and there's going to be a
- 39:32Speaker 5: push at the end by the Eagles.
- 39:34Speaker 3: It's going to get scary.
- 39:36Speaker 5: Towards the end, I can see that happening and that
- 39:39Speaker 5: defense just has to hold tight and make a play
- 39:41Speaker 5: like they always have. But there are going to be
- 39:43Speaker 5: some key turnovers that put Jacksonville on a short field
- 39:46Speaker 5: and we know by the way they've They've been all season.
- 39:50Speaker 3: Trevor Lawrence and that offense always capitalizes.
- 39:52Speaker 2: That's a good one, J-Bell. All right, well, hey, maybe
- 39:55Speaker 2: we'll see you on Sunday.
- 39:57Speaker 3: I'll be there, man. I'm locked in, in the booth,
- 39:59Speaker 3: on the grass, everything, man. Sam, what's up?
- 40:02Speaker 1: So we have J-Bell going for the narrow win for
- 40:05Speaker 1: the Jags at Tottenham this Sunday. Last week, it was
- 40:10Speaker 1: me because my predictions, I am killing it so far.
- 40:15Speaker 3: I went 20-17.
- 40:17Speaker 1: And it was 22-17. That close. So I'm getting some
- 40:21Speaker 1: bonus points there. We all went with a Jaguars win,
- 40:24Speaker 1: which I think we have for the whole... I feel
- 40:27Speaker 1: like there's part of us that feels like we have
- 40:28Speaker 1: to pick the Jags winning every single week.
- 40:31Speaker 2: Only when they're good. And it seems like they're good
- 40:33Speaker 2: at the moment, doesn't it, Rhys?
- 40:34Speaker 3: So, you know.
- 40:34Speaker 1: I'm with you. But we do have a little bit
- 40:37Speaker 1: of a leaderboard so far. I'm on top with six points.
- 40:40Speaker 1: Former NFL player is after me. Jason Bell on five.
- 40:46Speaker 1: And Jay, clearly no relation to the other Lawrence with four.
- 40:52Speaker 1: But we have IO this week as well. So we're
- 40:54Speaker 1: going to need a prediction from yourself. I mean, Jay
- 40:57Speaker 1: Bell's broken the game down. But what we think in... Jay,
- 41:00Speaker 1: let's go with you first.
- 41:02Speaker 3: Give me your.
- 41:03Speaker 2: I was hoping that you were going to go first
- 41:05Speaker 2: reason and I can do it. What is it? Is
- 41:06Speaker 2: it the price is right or something like that? When
- 41:08Speaker 2: you just go ever so slightly close to them, but
- 41:11Speaker 2: just means that like, I can just take advantage of
- 41:14Speaker 2: the fact that you've been doing pretty well. Um, I'm,
- 41:17Speaker 2: I'm going to go, um, very similar to last week.
- 41:20Speaker 2: I have a feeling though, that just generally all of
- 41:23Speaker 2: these London games generally are cagey. They're cagey for a while.
- 41:27Speaker 2: They always, um, They might break apart a bit towards
- 41:31Speaker 2: the end, but a lot of the time they might
- 41:32Speaker 2: be closer than you think. I'm going to say the
- 41:36Speaker 2: same score as this week. I'll say Jags win 22-17.
- 41:40Speaker 4: Hmm.
- 41:43Speaker 3: Okay.
- 41:44Speaker 1: Interesting.
- 41:44Speaker 2: Okay, by the look of the face, by the look
- 41:46Speaker 2: of that response, Rhys, means you disagree, which means that
- 41:48Speaker 2: I'm going to be wrong because you've been doing well.
- 41:50Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Talk
- 41:51Speaker 1: me through the game. How do we get there?
- 41:54Speaker 2: Jags going up, Eagles getting back into the game, and
- 41:56Speaker 2: then it might be another situation where the defense has
- 41:58Speaker 2: to hold strong and hopefully get that win. To be honest,
- 42:03Speaker 2: I'll take it. I'll take it. I'll take it. I'll
- 42:05Speaker 2: take any sort of win. But I would love it
- 42:07Speaker 2: to be, look, don't get me wrong, I would love
- 42:09Speaker 2: it to be a 40-point barnstormer from the Jags offense,
- 42:12Speaker 2: but I'm not sure that London games have ever been
- 42:14Speaker 2: that way, and I don't know if I see it
- 42:16Speaker 2: starting this time against the Eagles, though, despite the fact
- 42:19Speaker 2: that the Eagles do have injuries, especially offensively. Saquon's out, probably.
- 42:25Speaker 2: Tank Bixby's out. They're going to be running Will Shipley
- 42:28Speaker 2: as they're starting running back. So I think that there's
- 42:31Speaker 2: going to be some different personnel for the Eagles, which
- 42:37Speaker 2: you'd assume would maybe help the Jags. But you just
- 42:40Speaker 2: don't know. These games, I think, are funny beings, I think,
- 42:43Speaker 2: these international games sometimes.
- 42:44Speaker 1: What are you thinking, Aya?
- 42:45Speaker 3: I'm going to go 21-14, Jags win.
- 42:47Speaker 1: Ooh.
- 42:51Speaker 3: I think much like Jay, I think the Jags are
- 42:54Speaker 3: going to go up in the first half. I think
- 42:56Speaker 3: the Eagles might make a little bit of a comeback
- 42:58Speaker 3: and that defense is going to hold. I think the
- 43:00Speaker 3: Jags are used to playing in London. I don't remember
- 43:04Speaker 3: the Eagles playing in London in recent history. And I
- 43:07Speaker 3: think that's a big adjustment you've got to get used to,
- 43:09Speaker 3: you know, knowing when to land, knowing how to train.
- 43:12Speaker 3: To Jay's point, Saquon might be out, Tank's definitely out.
- 43:17Speaker 3: So the run game's dead. However, we weren't great against
- 43:20Speaker 3: the pass last week. So I reckon they might get
- 43:22Speaker 3: a touchdown or two there, but I do think we're
- 43:24Speaker 3: going to win.
- 43:25Speaker 2: Reece, good as yours.
- 43:26Speaker 4: Okay.
- 43:27Speaker 1: I don't like this game at all.
- 43:32Speaker 5: At all.
- 43:33Speaker 1: I'm not just being contrarian for contrarian sake, but I
- 43:36Speaker 1: don't like this. Reason being is I hate, like, I
- 43:41Speaker 1: don't think that Eagles are a bad team. I mean,
- 43:45Speaker 1: Saquon out, are we guaranteed not to go up against Saquon?
- 43:49Speaker 2: It's week by week, but I think it's unlikely that
- 43:52Speaker 2: he's going to play, just purely because if he's week
- 43:54Speaker 2: by week, I don't know if they're going to travel
- 43:57Speaker 2: to London to go play a game. I don't know.
- 43:59Speaker 1: I just don't like a team that's like a good
- 44:03Speaker 1: team that comes off, what, two losses. Rams, Bears, Hurts
- 44:09Speaker 1: is going to be not in a good mood. That
- 44:11Speaker 1: whole team's going to want to turn things around. They've
- 44:14Speaker 1: got to get on a plane all together. I have
- 44:17Speaker 1: a feeling that the Spurs stadium, if it's anything like
- 44:19Speaker 1: that Bills game, that felt like a Bills. We were
- 44:23Speaker 1: doing interviews outside with Jags Merch, that game where it's
- 44:26Speaker 1: Jags versus Bills, and the Bills were like, It was
- 44:29Speaker 1: not a nice experience doing interviews wearing Jags merch. Any
- 44:33Speaker 1: one we tried to interview was, I was like, I
- 44:37Speaker 1: can only imagine what the Eagles are going to be like.
- 44:38Speaker 1: I feel like the fans are going to be hyped.
- 44:40Speaker 1: I feel like that is going to be a crazy.
- 44:42Speaker 2: You're going to go for an Eagles win here, Rhys.
- 44:44Speaker 3: Eagles atmosphere. It sounds like that's what he's saying.
- 44:46Speaker 2: That's what he's saying. Are you going for an Eagles win?
- 44:48Speaker 3: Rhys.
- 44:49Speaker 1: I just feel like if there's a game that like,
- 44:53Speaker 1: this is one of those trip up games, I feel.
- 44:58Speaker 1: Like we trip ourselves up. Do you know what I mean?
- 45:01Speaker 1: But I can't pick us with the spread, can I?
- 45:05Speaker 5: No.
- 45:05Speaker 2: It's just a straight up, what is the prediction? And
- 45:08Speaker 2: I'm going to have to push you on this because
- 45:10Speaker 2: otherwise we're going to be here for days.
- 45:11Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. I'm going to go Jags 16-13. Oh.
- 45:21Speaker 2: You didn't even want to do that, did you? You
- 45:23Speaker 2: didn't want to do that.
- 45:24Speaker 1: But I did.
- 45:25Speaker 3: That's what matters.
- 45:26Speaker 2: That's what matters.
- 45:27Speaker 1: That's what matters. I just feel like it's a bit
- 45:28Speaker 1: of a bogey game. Something weird about this game. Yeah.
- 45:31Speaker 1: I just think, yeah.
- 45:33Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what though.
- 45:33Speaker 1: They have to turn this around.
- 45:35Speaker 2: I'll tell you what though, Reece.
- 45:36Speaker 1: It's such a winnable game. At the same time, to
- 45:38Speaker 1: Devil's Advocate at my own point, it is a winnable game.
- 45:41Speaker 2: It is.
- 45:42Speaker 1: So winnable. So it's up to us if we want
- 45:44Speaker 1: to kind of play ourselves.
- 45:46Speaker 2: But no matter what happens, if it is a bogey game,
- 45:48Speaker 2: which I'm confident it won't be, but if it is
- 45:50Speaker 2: a bogey game, then there's the game at Wembley the
- 45:52Speaker 2: week after in there, Reece. And that's the one that
- 45:54Speaker 2: I think that is going to be The big one,
- 45:57Speaker 2: I think. That's it. That's going to be the exciting one.
- 46:04Speaker 2: Whatever happens, Rhys will say that he got it right.
- 46:06Speaker 1: Numbers don't lie, Jay.
- 46:07Speaker 3: I'm talking.
- 46:09Speaker 2: Next week, Rhys is going to be like, do you
- 46:11Speaker 2: know what? I always thought we'd win it. I always thought.
- 46:13Speaker 2: And if Jags don't do so well, he's going to
- 46:15Speaker 2: be like, always said it was a bogey game. I
- 46:18Speaker 2: always said that. I always said it was a bogey game.
- 46:19Speaker 3: That's why he was kind of playing both sides.
- 46:21Speaker 2: That's it. That's it. He's just going to cut. For
- 46:25Speaker 2: social media, he'll just cut the bit that works and
- 46:28Speaker 2: he'll put it up. Oh, the bit where.
- 46:30Speaker 1: Cam Little does a fake field goal and runs into
- 46:33Speaker 1: the end zone. And then on the next play, they
- 46:36Speaker 1: have him at quarterback and he throws a Hail Mary
- 46:38Speaker 1: to Trevor Lawrence.
- 46:40Speaker 3: That's it.
- 46:41Speaker 2: You just keep saying it and someday it will be right.
- 46:43Speaker 2: Not that one.
- 46:44Speaker 1: It's kind of like the Colorado offense.
- 46:45Speaker 2: That's, yeah. All right. Thank you so much for joining
- 46:48Speaker 2: us on the Teal Talk today. What are you up to?
- 46:52Speaker 2: Are you still playing? What are you doing?
- 46:55Speaker 3: Yeah, still playing. Hopefully some exciting news for you guys soon.
- 46:58Speaker 3: That's the most I can say. But yes, I'm still
- 47:01Speaker 3: very much playing.
- 47:03Speaker 2: That's what we want to hear. Well, actually, no, we
- 47:05Speaker 2: want to hear more than that. You couldn't tell us, so,
- 47:07Speaker 2: you know, that's fine.
- 47:09Speaker 1: I have a feeling what he's alluding to, because I've
- 47:12Speaker 1: been seeing some stuff on social media about certain interesting, interesting.
- 47:18Speaker 1: I just put two and two together there. I'm like, interesting.
- 47:23Speaker 2: I wonder. All right, well, I guess we'll leave it there.
- 47:26Speaker 2: Update us when you can. Update us when you can.
- 47:28Speaker 3: I will.
- 47:29Speaker 2: Update us when you can. You guys will be the
- 47:31Speaker 2: best to know. I will see you in a few days, Reece.
- 47:34Speaker 2: I'll see you on Sunday.
- 47:35Speaker 1: Cannot wait.
- 47:36Speaker 4: Cannot wait.
- 47:36Speaker 1: Super excited. Super excited. Come on, Jags 16-13 win against
- 47:44Speaker 1: our bogey, against the bogey game that we win.
- 47:47Speaker 2: You know, next week actually as well because we're going
- 47:49Speaker 2: to be, we'll be doing part of the show straight
- 47:52Speaker 2: after the game at Tottenham Hotspur and we'll be back
- 47:55Speaker 2: next week when we're going to be previewing Jags Texans.
- 47:58Speaker 2: We're going to be at practice as well so hopefully
- 48:01Speaker 2: there'll be loads of players on the podcast so it's
- 48:02Speaker 2: going to be It's going to be a big one, Rhys,
- 48:04Speaker 2: and it's going to be a big one over the
- 48:05Speaker 2: next week or so.
- 48:06Speaker 3: Duval!
- 48:09Speaker 2: In fact, do you know what? No, actually, do you
- 48:10Speaker 2: know what, Rhys? We've got a guest on the show today.
- 48:12Speaker 2: So I'm going to, I'll read it out, and then
- 48:14Speaker 2: it's all over to AO. This has been a Shooting
- 48:16Speaker 2: Shark production for Jacksonville Jaguars, UK and Ireland, in partnership
- 48:20Speaker 2: with Gallagher. We'll be back next week. Give us a Duval, AO.
- 48:25Speaker 3: Duval!
- 48:28Speaker 2: That's what we want. That's what we want.
- 48:29Speaker 4: Let's go.