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Ep.109 - Matt Kibbe on Why Fauci Will Go to Jail and Trump Is Failing | Free the People | Deep State | Forever Wars · Virtuous Leaders with Dr. Johann D'Souza

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  To resist government oppression, you don't need a majority.
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  You need brave people who are willing to speak up.
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  And we had some of that during the lockdown.
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  It's not nearly as much as I wanted, but later we would
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  discover that those who were speaking up and risking their
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  careers and their families and their livelihoods, they were
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  being systematically suppressed by tech companies at the behest
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  of governments. This is Virtuous Leaders, the
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  podcast for based Catholics who will speak truth, do good or die
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  trying. Here's the show.
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  MSNBC called you the second worst person in the world.
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  You recently produced Adaki series on Fauci calls the Cover
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  Up. But don't you think everyone
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  would be happier if we just let experts rule the world?
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  You know, there's, there's that, that instinct we all have to
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  trust the expert. And it's, it's particularly true
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  when you're, you're going to the doctor, right?
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  Once, once the lab coat is on, you're going to defer everything
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  to that guy. But I don't know, like, I, I
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  think something about Americans is, is quite the opposite of
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  that, that, that we don't, we don't trust authority, we don't
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  trust experts, we don't trust power.
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  And then there's a mindset that says, I want to figure that
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  stuff out for myself. Do.
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  You think that I'm just going to go to jail?
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  Yes, I do. And yeah.
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  Yeah, I'm not sure I've heard a prominent person really as as
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  you have confidence in that view, what makes you so
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  confident? I mean, I hope.
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  I hope that justice is served, but I like the year explanation.
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  Well, it's, it's, it has everything to do with Senator
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  Rand Paul, who made it a point of getting on the appropriate
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  committee. What is it?
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  Government? It's the government oversight
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  committee. I'm forgetting the name of it at
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  the moment, but he is now the chairman and he is the chairman
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  with subpoena power. And there's a there's a whole
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  controversy stirring around Joe Biden's auto pen, right?
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  And, and apparently one of the pardons that was auto pens and
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  potentially illegitimate was Tony Fauci's pardon.
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  But either way, he is only pardoned for crimes he's
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  committed in the past. And when Senator Rand Paul with
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  his subpoena power, insists that Fauci come testify before the
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  committee has two choices, tell the truth or commit perjury,
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  which opens him up to new criminal charges.
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  And, you know, assuming that the Trump Justice Department is
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  willing to actually pursue that, yes, Anthony Fauci will go to
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  jail for the, the crimes he committed.
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  Or he'll explain to us for the first time who he was working
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  for. Because I don't think Anthony
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  Fauci was the, the grand architect of, of lockdowns and
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  gain of function research and, and all of these crimes against
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  humanity. But I do think that I want to
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  know who his boss is. And I have theories, but I'd
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  like to know. May I ask what your theories
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  are? Sure.
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  I saw we, we did this series called The Cover Up, and it was
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  really born out of a conversation I was having with
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  Doctor J Bhattacharya in 2020, maybe 2021.
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  It's probably early 21 and about the boom in funding for NIAID,
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  which which Tony Fauci headed up and NIH and it was explicitly
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  tied to the government's newly declared War on Terror and
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  specifically bioterror. That was part of the IT wasn't a
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  patriotic Patriot Act, but it was part of that cluster of
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  panic legislation that that created a lot of monsters.
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  And and that led me to ask the question, what was this even a
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  health, public health response? Or was this a military
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  intelligence style mad science experiment?
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  And that's that's what we proceeded to uncover in the
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  cover up, particularly talking to a guy named Doctor Richard E
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  Bright, who's at Rutgers and was Anthony Fauci's nemesis going
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  all the way back to 2001 when they started doing all of these
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  wild experiments. So it's to, to me, the whole
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  question is, you know, at the time, according to Ebright,
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  Fauci was tapped by Vice President Dick Cheney.
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  But I believe that Fauci's, Fauci's boss may well be at the
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  CIA or Homeland Security, maybe DoD.
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  And these are the agencies that I think we're running the show.
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  And it really had nothing to do with public health.
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  Here's the Trump administration living up to his campaign
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  balances. I would say mostly no.
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  And, and the exception to that, I think is what RFK Junior is
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  doing at HHS and what Marty Macri is doing at FDA and what
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  Jay Bhattacharyya is doing at NIHII think they're moving in
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  the right direction. And I think people that are
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  criticizing them perhaps don't appreciate how big the messes
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  that they're trying to unravel and how powerful the interests
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  are that they're taking on. But on things like spending, you
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  can't actually unwind the deep state without actually going
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  after the spending that that undercuts it.
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  And, and Doge had all that promise.
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  And I, I did a lot of work on Doge, but if they don't deal
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  with it on the budgetary side, they're just rearranging deck
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  chairs. And the next administration can
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  reverse virtually everything that they do in a way that that
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  they should have, in my mind, pursued pushing good drink
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  things through the Senate in the same way that they pushed some
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  of Trump's better and most controversial nominees through
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  the Senate, like RFK Junior, like Tulsi Gabbard.
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  Jay Bhattacharya was not that controversial because he is
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  disarmingly honest and, and a gentle guy, as you, as you
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  probably know. But they, they, if, if you're
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  going to defund the deep state, which I think needs to be done,
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  I think it's out of control. And I think what we were just
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  talking about with gain of function research is very part
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  and parcel of that. But if you're going to do it,
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  you got to actually do it. You can't just do it by
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  executive order. Why isn't Trump delivering?
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  That that is a bit of a mystery and that that I'll give you a
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  specific example. He's he's spending a lot of time
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  attacking Rand Paul these days and is not only has not only
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  endorsed Lindsey Graham, who is about as deep state as it gets,
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  neoconservative deep state or never saw a forever war that he
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  didn't like. I wish he would have chosen to
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  work more with Rand Paul and spent his his ire going after
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  Lindsey Graham and forcing Lindsey Graham to fall into
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  line. Because Lindsey Graham is up for
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  a primary election next spring and he easily could have put
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  pressure on Lindsey Graham to fall into line instead of Rand
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  Paul. I don't know why he didn't
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  choose to do that. We, you could argue that maybe,
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  maybe this, these were more campaign promises than policy
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  commitments, but it's, it's, it's very disappointing to me.
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  It's very concerning for people who really put their hopes in
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  Trump for better, for worse. And and I hope that there will
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  be a future candidate will be better, but that's no guarantee.
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  Yeah, I mean everything we do. So I'm, I'm a, I'm a recovering
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  political activist. I was involved in in the Tea
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  Party movement and, and very involved in the class, the
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  Republican class of 2010, which was a historic shift in power
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  from the Democrats. And, and we elected guys like
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  Congressman Thomas Massie, Senator Rand Paul, but also
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  people that I'm less proud of, like Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz
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  and, and, and senators like that.
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  But I've come to understand, I always knew this, but I think
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  it's important to say this again and again and again.
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  The politics is downstream of culture and the, the values and
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  ideas that animate civil society are ultimately going to create
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  the, the political choices that you're confronted with.
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  And if you wait until a presidential election and see
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  who the Democrats have to offer and see who the Republicans have
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  to offer, you're going to discover getting the same thing
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  over and over again. Then the increasing American
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  cynicism in the political process.
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  Not that many people know this, but there's more registered
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  registered independence than there are Republicans and
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  Democrats. And but I but I think we have to
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  this, this is sort of a we have to recapture.
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  That's the wrong word, but but reanimate popular culture with
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  with these ideas based on what I believe to be very American
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  ideas, ideas about freedom and responsibility and the potential
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  to do what you will with your life as long as you don't hurt
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  people or take their stuff. I think that is there.
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  It's in all of Americans. But you know, politics
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  manipulates us and exploits us and scares us into agreeing to
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  do things that we wouldn't otherwise do.
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  You're living out that mission with your initiatives.
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  How do you see your initiatives playing a role in this?
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  Well, we believe that the best ideas are presented as a story
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  and as a human story. And I'll give you a specific
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  example of that. So we, we produce documentaries,
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  we do short explainers, we're producing a lot of comedy.
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  I'm about to do a lot of really cool stuff with the iconic
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  Saturday Night Night Live comedian Rob Schneider.
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  But the idea is that, you know, that the gateway to ideas is,
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  is, is a human story or might be a joke.
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  It's something that resonates far beyond sort of political
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  tribalism. And we, we did during lockdowns,
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  I became obsessed with the potentially catastrophic
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  outcomes of, of lockdowns in early March when they first
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  started talking about, about shutting down the world.
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  And that year we made a documentary, a tragic story
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  about a dad in who's in Brooklyn trying to save his family
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  restaurant that that was that was in the family.
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  He built this restaurant with his father.
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  So it was everything to him. And in the middle of lockdown,
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  struggling financially to try to keep his restaurant open in New
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  York City, his son develops grand mall seizures.
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  And you remember at the time, the mayor and the governor of
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  New York had decided that they knew how to manage hospital flow
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  as if they could know anything about managing hospital flow
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  and, and healthcare. And they, they declared that
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  only people with COVID could, could go to the hospital.
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  And this young man, after some, some initial visits to a doctor,
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  he was, he was, he was turned down and he, he dies.
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  He dies because he can't get the treatment he wants because
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  politics has taken over healthcare.
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  And we don't we don't talk about Andrew Cuomo and we don't talk
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  about the mayor of New York City and we don't talk about the
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  politics of lockdowns or the economics of it.
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  We just tell the story of what Fred lost.
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  And that documentary is a short. And that documentary ended up
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  being selected as the best COVID film in the New York Shorts
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  Festival. And I am going to posit that not
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  a single person that judged that film opposed lockdowns or
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  vaccine mandates or mass mandates or you can't go to work
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  because you're not essential mandates.
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  But when you tell it as a human story that everyone can relate
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  to, it's about, it's about a visceral consequence, a loss
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  resulting from a mindless policy.
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  I think everybody gets that they did it in that way.
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  So, but if I had, if I had done an, an economist thing with,
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  with statistics and numbers and charts, not a single person
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  would have been persuaded is so that's kind of our model.
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  We want to, we want to touch people's hearts because I think
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  as an economist, I, I think about things in it with a, with
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  a certain economic logic, but I don't think most people's brains
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  are wired that way. They process the world through
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  the people they trust and their emotions and, and the human
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  connection they have with others.
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  And and that that's what we try to do it for the people.
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  You call it a documentary, so this is based on a true story.
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  Yes 100% true story and happily the the restaurant is still
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  surviving barely. But if you know anything about
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  the economics of cities post lockdowns, they've changed
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  people's behavior patterns. People people don't go to work
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  in cities so much anymore. So there's a fundamental
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  disruption there that I think is going to have more damage long
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  term than any of us will realize for quite some time.
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  The. Year approach is very wise.
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  You said that politics is downstream of culture.
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  The classical adage is culture has the force of law where
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  custom has the force of law. And in the Republic, Plato said
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  that the poets who rule the city, the poets are the ones who
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  provide the dominance images that's influence people beyond
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  their conscious awareness. I think that's precisely what
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  you're identifying and speaking to you with your emphasis on
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  stories. That's very wise.
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  Yeah. And it's, you know, I'm, I'm a
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  libertarian. I, I still use that word.
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  It may not be perfect, but it's it's pretty useful to describe
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  what I am. And I believe.
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  I believe in rules of conduct. And I believe that those rules
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  come from people figuring out how to survive and cooperate and
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  thrive with each other. And so it's not that that some
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  legislator came along and then passed a law.
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  It's because people had come to this consensus that shouldn't
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  hurt. People shouldn't take their
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  stuff. I mean, it kind of comes out of
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  Adam Smith's theory of moral sentiments.
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  These are these are ingrained in in human beings.
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  And and if you believe that to be true, you better focus on
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  culture, not trying to go to Washington to pass another law.
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  You could, you could tomorrow you could pass a law that said
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  Americans should drive on the other side of the street and
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  they're probably not going to do it.
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  And it probably a lot of people are going to get hurt with this
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  arbitrary mandate coming from government.
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  But I think I think you could describe almost every good
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  sounding law in the same way. They're trying to do something
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  that has to be done through a social consensus to focus on
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  problem solving from the bottom up.
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  Not you don't outsource compassion.
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  You can't outsource integrity. You have to own that yourself.
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  And that, that to me, is the core of what a libertarian is.
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  I'm curious to hear how optimistic you are in seeing
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  your goal fulfilled through the method that you're using, and
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  what's what's holding you back from 10X in your impact.
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  So that the, the challenge for us is always the, the fact that
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  our distribution methods are social media platforms.
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  And as we live through with, with COVID and discovering what,
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  you know, when Elon Musk bought Twitter, we discovered all of
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  these same alphabet intelligence and defense agencies that I was
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  referring to earlier were we had this incredibly granular
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  censorship model that was designed to suppress certain
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  voices and certain ideas. And that's still there that
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  there's been no dismantling of that.
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  And the reality is, you know, X under Elon Musk is is much
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  better than it was under that, that bureaucracy that that had
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  evolved as as Jack got out of it.
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  But it's still a top down system.
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  And someone is still deciding how you get how and if you get
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  to speak to other people. So that that's an ongoing
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  problem of, of not so much deep platforming, but but suppression
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  of of subversive ideas that that someone somewhere in some agency
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  has decided is unacceptable. That said, it's so much
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  radically more liberating than it was when I was a kid and you
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  had three TV networks and Walter Cronkite gave you 20 minutes of
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  allocated news. You didn't actually know where
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  that allocation originated. But at the end of this, you
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  might remember he said that's the way it is.
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  And if you say that's the way it is on Twitter, trust me, you're
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  going to get fact checked and challenged and argued with and
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  out of that, out of that dynamic.
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  It it's something like what I was describing with the, with
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  the engagement of, of free people in a civil society.
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  I think you're going to get closer to the truth by allowing
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  people robustly to express their opinions and argue them out.
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  And that is so much more dynamic with social media, but it's
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  also, it's also a top down system.
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  So we're, we're still anxiously awaiting blockchain technologies
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  that allow us to have unlimited conversation.
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  And I think we're headed there. You believe that the US, and by
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  extension of the world, is being run by a bunch of devil
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  worshipping pedophiles? I think that so I've I've
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  listened to to Tucker Carlson on this and I've I find some of who
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  is the guy He was talking about the.
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  Martyr Maid Guy? Yeah, his name escapes me.
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  Yeah, but the, the, you know, the, the sick pedophile artwork.
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  Oh yeah, yeah, that's Tony. Podesta, is that right?
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  Yeah. Yeah, yeah, Tony Podesta didn't
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  really have that artwork. I, I, I would, I would love to
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  hear his explanation for that because it doesn't sit right
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  with me, but I do. I do think that there is a elite
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  globalist community that that very much fancies themselves are
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  keepers. They're, if they think they're
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  smarter than us, they think they're of the, the right
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  families. Like the original progressive
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  project was going to put the right families taught at the
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  right universities and you're going to give them all this
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  power to, to shepherd the rest of us in a, in a, in a
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  progressively thoughtful way. I think that is very real.
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  And I think you'll, you'll discover going back, going back
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  to COVID and lockdowns, one of the things that that I
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  discovered, or at least I put these threads together.
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  I don't, I don't know what the end of the story is, but I don't
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  think it was an accident that this intelligence cooperative
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  called the Five Eyes. And the Five Eyes are the
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  basically the English speaking countries that, that collaborate
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  and share intelligence and and collude on whatever it is
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  they're colluding on. It is the US and Canada, the UK,
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  New Zealand and Australia, they all locked down the hardest and
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  most of most, most aggressively early on and they and they
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  really led the world on that. That is a globalist thing,
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  right? That is, that is a centrally
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  planned top down. We're smarter than you.
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  We have the knowledge to do this stuff from the top down.
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  That stuff is very real. And I think that's precisely
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  what we need to unwind. And I hope it's, I hope it's not
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  too late to to reassert American sovereignty on that.
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  How do you wake people up from the app?
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  The and ignorance would say that that will raise it's just too
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  difficult for globalists to rule the world.
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  It's not going to happen. Is there a conspiracy theories
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  etcetera? I, I actually think they went
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  too far on lockdowns. I I think that is the great
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  awakening they. Revealed their hands.
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  And, you know, yeah, they revealed their hand and I think
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  they're going to have a very hard time implementing the next
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  central plan. And I, you know, I think, I
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  think their hope is that it's that it's going to be climate
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  change, I suspect, but that, you know, they might change gears
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  and they might make it about war.
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  They might God, God knows what they'll try to do to us.
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  But I think we discovered that there is a there is a censorship
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  industrial complex. There are, is this cabal of
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  elitist, you know, guys like Bill Gates that very much view
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  merit humans as sort of cogs and in a wheel or, you know, a, a
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  program with a bug that needs to be fixed.
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  That's his mindset, right? He's, he's a software engineer.
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  And I, I think that I think that that really rubs people the
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  wrong way. And, and by the way, to, to
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  resist government oppression, you don't need a majority.
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  You need brave people who are willing to speak up.
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  And we had some of that during the lockdown.
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  It's not nearly as much as I wanted, but later we would
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  discover that those who were speaking up and risking their,
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  their careers and their families and their livelihoods, they were
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  being systematically suppressed by tech companies at the, at the
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  behest of, of governments. And then you have this, you
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  know, right now the Digital Services Act that the EU has
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  imposed on EU nations and the UK is even more aggressive.
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  I was having this conversation yesterday.
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  They have a legislation, non criminal hate activity, which is
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  something that you say that the authorities don't like.
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  And they're going to come knocking on your door and
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  they're going to put you on a list.
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  But it's not a crime. And it's, it's, it's so
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  Orwellian, it's hard to even imagine.
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  I think all of this ham fisted censorship stuff is, is exposing
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  the machine for what it's trying to do to us.
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  And I I I have to be optimistic about that, but I I see it
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  happening. I respect you man, because you
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  are a careless truth speaker. At what point do you start to
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  fear for your own life? You know, I was thinking about
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  this in the context of Charlie Kirk's assassination.
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  The the good news for me, like so and I, if you Google me from
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  12/14 years ago, I would have been viewed as one of the, the
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  leaders of the Tea Party movement.
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  And I was spending a lot of time on mainstream media and I was
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  going on Bill Maher and I was like the, the whipping boy for
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  the my progressive betters. Back then.
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  It wasn't so hostile. It wasn't so violent, but I see
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  the same dynamic where they, you know, the, the Tea Party
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  ultimately was undermined by by the Republican Party hijacking
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  it. And when we first started
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  electing people like Rand Paul and Mike Lee and Thomas Massie
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  and Justin Amash, the list goes on and on.
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  We caught them by surprise. And then we actually replaced a
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  lot of senior Republican senators for life with with
• 26:07
  better candidates. But I think I think they're now
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  on to that. And I don't, I don't think, I
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  don't think I'm at risk. But I do think that anyone that
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  tries to fundamentally undermine the order and in politics is
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  really where the rubber hits the road.
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  I don't. I don't know exactly what
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  happened to Charlie, but I do know that he mattered in a very
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  visceral, political way that was viewed as a threat.
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  So I've been asking you a lot of questions here.
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  I want to give you a chance to just go off on any of rants that
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  you want to. You have a lot of different
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  ideas and I do a lot of initiatives.
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  What? What would you like throughout
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  the year? So my my obsession at the
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  moment, I'm spending more and more time on foreign policy and
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  I'm a I'm a non interventionist and a realist when it comes to
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  foreign policy. I think a lot of so-called
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  nation building is a form of central planning and it's that
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  arrogant and it's that naive that to think that you could go
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  in and take over Afghanistan and somehow set up a Western
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  democracy in that country. That was a colossal failure.
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  Millions of people died, billions and billions of people,
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  a billions and billions of dollars were spent, trillions in
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  that process. And I think going back to the
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  to, to one of the early questions about about the
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  budget, like if you, if you want to defund the deep state, you
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  have to cut their budgets. If you actually want to
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  eliminate this massive debt allege that's going to make our
• 28:04
  children and grandchildren so poor, you're going to have to do
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  something about forever wars. You're going to have to get
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  Republicans to do something about forever wars because
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  Democrats aren't any better with with a few exceptions.
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  And you're going to have to do something about the surveillance
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  state and this, this very controlling top down set of
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  agencies, I guess we call it the deep state now.
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  And until we do that, we're not going to be able to fix the
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  other problems. So I've been spending more and
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  more time on foreign policy, both as a as a principled non
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  interventionist. I don't, I don't think, I don't
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  think we have enough knowledge to actually reorganize a country
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  like Afghanistan or Venezuela more to the current point, but I
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  also don't think realistically, we appreciate just how much
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  damage you do. There's a reason why Hugo Chavez
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  and Nicolas Maduro have endured and it had a lot to do with with
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  American intervention through USAID, International Endowment
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  for Democracy. All these things that we say
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  that we're unplugging now. So focus on foreign policy and
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  don't take the bait of this is going to be easy.
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  It's going to be simple. Nicolas Maduro is a really bad
• 29:22
  guy. He needs to be replaced because
• 29:24
  we're already seeing the fallout in Syria from regime change and
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  I'm not at all convinced that the new boss is any better than
• 29:31
  the last boss. Matt, how can people follow you?
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  You can find us at Find Me at M Kibbe on X, my favorite platform
• 29:46
  on Instagram. I have a big Facebook page, but
• 29:49
  it doesn't get much action because Facebook is a is a
• 29:53
  horrible place to be. And more importantly, go to
• 29:56
  freethepeople.org to see the kind of video content we
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  produce. I do a show on Blaze TV.
• 30:02
  We produce a lot of documentaries, explainers,
• 30:05
  comedy. It's all there and it's
• 30:07
  organized in a way that you can find you what you want and leave
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  the rest. Thanks for speaking truth, Matt.
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  Thanks for listening. Please like, subscribe and share
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  with your friends. See you next time.