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Is Bible Study Essential? With Nate Vianio - 174 · Marriage Life and More and Bible Study

• 0:07
  Nate Vianio: What is it?
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  Nate Vianio: 2 Timothy 3.16,.
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  Nate Vianio: You know it's God breathed.
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  Nate Vianio: It's useful for training and rebuking and reproof and in Hebrews the writer of Hebrews says that you know it's sharper than a two-edged sword and it can divide.
• 0:21
  Nate Vianio: It's very powerful in its ability to accurately separate between a right motive and a wrong motive, wrapped around the same behavior or the same action.
• 0:32
  Nate Vianio: And you can fool people around you.
• 0:36
  Nate Vianio: You can fool your spouse for a while, you can fool the pastor and everybody you go to church with or work with, or the kids your own kids or whatever.
• 0:43
  Nate Vianio: But, man, when you get serious about letting God have his way in your life and you get into the word, that word will come in there and it'll start to work.
• 0:52
  Nate Vianio: It'll do that.
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  Nate Vianio: It'll start separating.
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  Daniel Moore: This week on Connecting the Gap podcast.
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  Daniel Moore: We're talking to Nate Vainio, the host of Something to Know on podcast.
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  Daniel Moore: We'll be back right after this.
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• 1:31
  Daniel Moore: They say that it is darkest Right before the dawn.
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• 2:03
  Daniel Moore: Hey guys, welcome to another episode of Connecting the Gap.
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  Daniel Moore: I'm Daniel Moore, your host for this podcast.
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  Daniel Moore: Thank you, guys, for joining us this week.
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  Daniel Moore: This week we've got a special treat for you that I know you'll enjoy.
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  Daniel Moore: It's a part one of a two-episode series with Nate Vainio, and we're going to be talking about the legitimacy of the Bible.
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  Daniel Moore: Why should we read it?
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  Daniel Moore: How can it be important in our lives?
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  Daniel Moore: Is it really the spoken word of God?
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  Daniel Moore: Does it really have power?
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  Daniel Moore: We're going to talk about that this week and next week, as I sat down with Nate Vainio and we busted this up into two episodes, so hopefully you'll enjoy that.
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• 2:55
  Daniel Moore: We just finished up our series on spiritual warfare and if you missed any of those episodes, you can check those out on the website as well or go to our YouTube channel.
• 3:04
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• 3:19
  Daniel Moore: Well, as I said, this week we are sitting in with Nate Vainio, the host of Something to Not On podcast.
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  Daniel Moore: He's been doing a series this year on his podcast, a Crash Course Through the Bible, and there's a reason that he decided to do that, so we're going to discuss that with him and figure out just how important the Bible is in our lives for today.
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  Daniel Moore: So, without further ado, let's go ahead and get into the first part of episode one with Nate Bainio.
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  Daniel Moore: Christian Headlines reports that the best-selling book in 2023 was the Bible, but you likely won't find it on any bestseller list.
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  Daniel Moore: The reason for that varies, but according to the New Yorker, the Bible is quote the best-selling book of the year every year.
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  Daniel Moore: In 2006, per the New Yorker, the amount spent annually on Bibles has been put at more than half a billion dollars.
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  Daniel Moore: According to the Guinness World Records, the Bible is the best-selling book of all time.
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  Daniel Moore: George Barnas says 88% of Americans own a Bible and most own multiple copies.
• 4:39
  Daniel Moore: While that's impressive and even encouraging, the big question is whether Americans who own a Bible, actually read it and, more importantly, do they believe it and live according to its teachings?
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  Daniel Moore: In 2021, barna Group estimated that 128 million American adults reach for the Bible with regularity.
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  Daniel Moore: Just over one-third of US adults at 34% reads the Bible once a week or more, while half, at 50%, read the Bible less than twice a year.
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  Daniel Moore: That also includes never.
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  Daniel Moore: With over 5 billion copies sold, the Bible remains the Earth's most read book, but the world in which we read and engage with the Bible is rapidly changing.
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  Daniel Moore: The steady rise of skepticism in creating a cultural atmosphere that is becoming unfriendly to claims of faith, the adoption of self-fulfillment as our culture's ultimate measure of good is reorienting moral authority, and the explosive growth of digital tools such as Bible apps.
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  Daniel Moore: Daily reading plans, study resources and online communities offer unprecedented access to the scriptures.
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  Daniel Moore: In the last six years alone, we've seen unprecedented changes.
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  Daniel Moore: Nearly a quarter of a century ago, in 1991, 45% of American adults told Barna that they read the Bible at least once a week.
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  Daniel Moore: In 2009, 46% reported doing so.
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  Daniel Moore: These percentages were remarkably consistent over the course of nearly two decades, but since 2009, the Bible reading has become less widespread, especially among the youngest adults, as more and more millennials join the ranks of adulthood.
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  Daniel Moore: The national average continues to weaken.
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  Daniel Moore: Today, about one-third of all American adults report reading the Bible once a week or more.
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  Daniel Moore: The percentage is highest among elders, at 49%, and the lowest among millennials, at 24%.
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  Daniel Moore: Welcome to Connecting the Gap podcast.
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  Daniel Moore: I'm Daniel Moore, your host.
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  Daniel Moore: This week.
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  Daniel Moore: We have a special episode as I have Nate Vainio with me here.
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  Daniel Moore: He's with the Something to Not On podcast.
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  Daniel Moore: He's going to be sitting with me this week and we're going to be talking about nothing else other than God's holy word, the Bible.
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  Daniel Moore: Nate, how are you doing today?
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  Daniel Moore: Doing?
• 7:04
  Nate Vianio: excellent.
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  Nate Vianio: Glad to be here, man.
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  Daniel Moore: Awesome.
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  Daniel Moore: Well, it's good to have you on here.
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  Daniel Moore: We've slung ideas back and forth here for the last.
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  Daniel Moore: What year?
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  Nate Vianio: couple years probably or something like that, About a year and a half.
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  Daniel Moore: Yeah, yeah somewhere in that range and it's good to finally connect here and be on a podcast together.
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  Daniel Moore: And if you would, why don't you just tell us a little bit about you and your podcast and what your mission is there with your ministry?
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  Nate Vianio: Yeah, so the podcast, just kind of title-wise, came to be driving a truck at one point in time, driving cross-country.
• 7:42
  Nate Vianio: But you hear, you can only listen to the radio so much.
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  Nate Vianio: And I began to get into Bible studies online and podcasts and listening to the Bible like an audible style and what I could remember from listening to some of those, to other pastors, sermons that have changed my life, that have made that I would call benchmark sermons, that I can look back even, you know, 15, 20 years, and remember that one sermon from that one pastor at that one point in time.
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  Nate Vianio: Those are those moments where you walked away from church, going back to the Bible yourself, not just to check up on what the pastor was saying, but because that passage started to speak to you so much you would go and literally gnaw on Scripture.
• 8:36
  Nate Vianio: You know it was yours and you kind of come back to that idea in Joshua 1.8, this word of the law shall not depart from your mouth.
• 8:45
  Nate Vianio: You shall meditate on it day and night and I think we're going to get into that basic idea in our conversation today.
• 8:54
  Nate Vianio: But that's the essence of the podcast was that I've never wanted the podcast to be a central ending point for people to go and listen to it and kind of say, hey, you know, yeah, that was good.
• 9:06
  Nate Vianio: My hope in it is that it sparks people to say that spurs me to get into it more for myself.
• 9:16
  Daniel Moore: Yeah.
• 9:17
  Nate Vianio: Because that's really where the power of it is.
• 9:18
  Nate Vianio: I mean, you and I can say something over the airwaves here and it connect with somebody, and I think of that like more, like a spark.
• 9:26
  Nate Vianio: The fire really takes place when somebody gets into it for themselves.
• 9:31
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, and you know that name of your podcast.
• 9:34
  Daniel Moore: Something's Not On.
• 9:35
  Daniel Moore: I know for myself.
• 9:36
  Daniel Moore: You know a lot of times, you know, when I go to church and I listen to my pastor preach, or if I'm, you know, checking out a sermon online or if I'm listening to a podcast, you know of someone's, I think, the ones that I walk away from, that I actually have some meat that I can kind of chew on for the rest of the week.
• 9:54
  Daniel Moore: You know, those really inspire me and change my life and I think today we have so many empty calories that's out there's probably the best way to put it.
• 10:03
  Daniel Moore: You know there's a lot of podcasting has blown up.
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  Daniel Moore: I mean there are, you know, thousands of podcasts out there now and millions, I think probably probably isn't in millions, I'm sure, but so many of them, you know are, are empty calories, and it's always nice to come across one occasionally that you look forward to every week for the new episode to come out, you know, and what's going to be on there next, and that's one thing about yours that I've always enjoyed.
• 10:31
  Daniel Moore: I actually got hooked up on yours with another fellow churchgoer and he told me about yours.
• 10:37
  Daniel Moore: I didn't know anything about you at that point in time, even though we went to church together.
• 10:41
  Nate Vianio: Yeah, I think we were going to church.
• 10:42
  Nate Vianio: What a couple of years At least, at least before.
• 10:44
  Nate Vianio: I didn't even know who you were until.
• 10:48
  Daniel Moore: But I got a chance to listen to yours and so your podcast is kind of parable style.
• 10:54
  Daniel Moore: Kind of explain that, so yeah.
• 10:58
  Nate Vianio: I guess it takes off with my learning style, which is kind of story-related.
• 11:06
  Nate Vianio: If there's a story that kind of captures my attention and you use that as a parable to convey a deeper, higher spiritual truth or biblical truth, that clicks.
• 11:19
  Nate Vianio: If we're going to sit here and trade intellectual barbs, you know, on a completely monotone level, you're going to lose me real quick.
• 11:29
  Nate Vianio: And there's plenty of that out there and you know, praise God for those who can swim in that pool, but that's not me.
• 11:40
  Nate Vianio: But Jesus taught that way, in the sense that you know, there were so many times that he's telling a parable story, and I think it's very reasonable to argue too that there's a few of those that aren't really parables.
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  Nate Vianio: They're legit stories, you know.
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  Nate Vianio: But he's able to grab something that people can, you know, you can understand agriculture and farming and sowing, then you can understand this parable.
• 12:07
  Nate Vianio: And if you can understand fishing, which that's a good one for me.
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  Nate Vianio: And so the parable style podcast basically started as that of just being able to tell stories.
• 12:23
  Nate Vianio: My dad's a pastor and I remember his dad telling us stories, and just fun stories, just family stories, and there's something about telling, maybe not necessarily a parable.
• 12:35
  Nate Vianio: My daughter corrected me one day, when I was telling, I was saying this is a parable style.
• 12:39
  Nate Vianio: Devotional she's like Dad.
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  Nate Vianio: Parables are fictitious.
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  Nate Vianio: Well, I tell a lot of historical stories, I tell a lot of stories from my past, you know.
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  Nate Vianio: Devotional she's like dad.
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  Nate Vianio: Parables are fictitious.
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  Nate Vianio: Well, I tell a lot of historical stories, I tell a lot of stories from my past, you know, and so so it's a parable style.
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  Nate Vianio: It's that, you know, this is that metaphorical kind of a look at things.
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  Nate Vianio: So there's a lot of stories from my upbringing, my childhood, that would cause somebody to maybe laugh and and grin at the same time, somebody to maybe laugh and grin at the same time.
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  Nate Vianio: Grab scripture and compare those two and you see that one might lay right inside the other and then all of a sudden go oh, my word.
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  chataboutjesus.com: I never saw that in scripture before.
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  Nate Vianio: That's exactly how that passage in scripture applies.
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  Nate Vianio: And you know, there's times I'm a big history buff too, and so I'm a big proponent of that old phrase that truth is stranger than fiction.
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  Nate Vianio: And there are some really incredible stories out there that you'll find with some of the podcasts.
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  Nate Vianio: The stories are just very well-documented factual stories of history, usually war-related World War II, vietnam, things of that nature but at the same time they highlight strange as they may be, they highlight very well some biblical truth and then hopefully, the idea out of that is that hopefully that story, that biblical truth, come to meet like a two-part epoxy at the podcast level and then throughout the week.
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  Nate Vianio: Maybe my hope and prayer is always that it gives those who are listening something to, literally and for lack of using the word non to ruminate, to meditate, to think about and I think in our culture, in our church culture, biblical culture, christian culture, whatever you want to call it, the ability to, or the Christian discipline to, meditate on Scripture is deficient.
• 14:37
  Daniel Moore: Yeah.
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  Nate Vianio: And the idea behind something in and on is that that something would be Scripture and that gnawing would be like Joshua 1.8, that you would not let that word depart from your mouth.
• 14:46
  Nate Vianio: And that process of if it's not departing from your mouth, if you're saying it, you're thinking it, and if you're thinking it and saying it, I mean there's this process in which you are meditating, You're ruminating on it, You're processing it, You're letting it have its way in your mind, in your spirit and anyhow.
• 15:04
  Nate Vianio: So yeah, you put a quarter in me, man.
• 15:08
  Nate Vianio: That's my podcast, that's what that's, that's the target.
• 15:11
  Daniel Moore: That's what we're shooting to do.
• 15:12
  Nate Vianio: Yeah.
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  Daniel Moore: And you know the word.
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  Daniel Moore: You know you used ruminating and I really like that for a descriptor for you know studying the word.
• 15:24
  Daniel Moore: Because you know cows when they chew their cud, you know they stand there and they regurgitate that and it's going to sound gross here for a little bit, but we've I mean you both kind of used this here recently in our podcast, for examples but but the cows do that and the more that they regurgitate that, they're getting more.
• 15:36
  Daniel Moore: You know minerals and extra things out of that while they're standing there.
• 15:40
  Daniel Moore: You know doing that.
• 15:42
  Daniel Moore: And the same goes with the Word.
• 15:44
  Daniel Moore: You know with the Bible.
• 15:45
  Daniel Moore: Whenever we ruminate or we regurgitate the Word and we sit there and think about it over and over, we keep reading it you always get more nutrients every time you pass through those passages.
• 15:55
  Daniel Moore: You get more light shown on things.
• 15:58
  Daniel Moore: The Holy Spirit reveals more to you as you read Scripture and I know a lot of times people that aren't really what I would consider regular church-going people they'll come up to me and they'll tell me how the Bible's so boring and how they don't get nothing out of it when they read it.
• 16:13
  Daniel Moore: And I'm like well, you obviously haven't read through it enough times, have you?
• 16:16
  Daniel Moore: It's like you need to sit back down and go through it a few more times.
• 16:20
  Daniel Moore: You're going to learn more and more every time you read the scriptures.
• 16:30
  Nate Vianio: Oh man, few more times.
• 16:30
  Nate Vianio: You're going to learn more and more every time you read the scriptures.
• 16:32
  Nate Vianio: What I love is, you know, talking to.
• 16:32
  Nate Vianio: I've had this conversation with a lot of people, but two people that are really in my hip pocket on the podcast are my mom and dad, and I was telling you about this a little earlier.
• 16:39
  Nate Vianio: But what I love is okay.
• 16:43
  Nate Vianio: So they've been in ministry 50 plus years now and there's times that we're talking about what I'm studying in an episode and they'll break out stuff from old Testament history and things of that nature.
• 16:57
  Nate Vianio: It just blows me away, um, but at the same time there are times we're talking about stuff and for all of their time in scripture and studying the word and preaching the Word, they're like man.
• 17:08
  Nate Vianio: I've read that.
• 17:10
  Nate Vianio: I don't know how many times I've read that, but I haven't seen it like that and it's amazing how it's living, it's active and there's also, I think, a reward in Scripture of there are depths of it that it takes a little time to mine out right you know and and so the idea, potentially, that some people would have that.
• 17:35
  Nate Vianio: Yeah, I read it once and you know, it's whatever you know, and I've heard people you know say things of that nature and it's like, oh man, you gotta stick with it.
• 17:43
  Nate Vianio: Yeah, you gotta stick with.
• 17:44
  Nate Vianio: It's like oh man, you got to stick with it, you got to stick with it, Cause it yeah, I just don't realize what they're missing at all.
• 17:49
  Daniel Moore: Uh, so the reason, you know, one of the main reasons that I have you here this week and you're going to be coming back for another episode as well Uh here recently.
• 17:58
  Nate Vianio: You say that now uh we'll see how that goes.
• 18:05
  Daniel Moore: By the end of this episode We'll revisit that.
• 18:07
  Daniel Moore: So here recently on your podcast actually as of I guess about the first of this year you have kind of went a different direction with your podcast a little bit.
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  Daniel Moore: You've kind of got away from the parable style to an extent and you're doing what you've called a crash course through the Bible and of course now you're going through the scenic route of Isaiah.
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  chataboutjesus.com: So it's kind of changed a little bit.
• 18:34
  Daniel Moore: I understand how that works, though, because I do a podcast also.
• 18:37
  Daniel Moore: I totally understand that there's a motif here for those of you who understand grammar terms Exactly Grammatic terms.
• 18:44
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, so Gram exactly terms.
• 18:45
  Nate Vianio: Yeah, so grammatic terms is grammatic terms, right I'm trying to say it works yeah, yeah, let's keep going.
• 18:51
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, head down.
• 18:52
  Daniel Moore: We'll make up our own words as we go.
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  Nate Vianio: We're good we'll provide a glossary at the end yeah, we'll put it in the notes.
• 18:58
  Daniel Moore: There we go.
• 18:59
  Daniel Moore: Uh, so, after doing your podcast the way you have for so long, and then you take this switch and you go to this journey of doing this crash course through the Bible.
• 19:12
  Daniel Moore: What was it that kind of triggered you to decide to go that route all of a sudden, instead of keeping the old format that you were using, what caused you to decide you needed to do something like this crash course?
• 19:25
  Nate Vianio: Yeah, so, uh, I've tried to keep the parable style element to where there's always a story in there that hopefully people can kind of latch the two things together, so there's always that one, two punch I've gotten away from, uh, one of the things that we I don't think we talked about this, but one of the things that I initially started with the podcast was that I tried to keep it like a 15 minute deal, and I've, in this season of that, I've broken away from that and stretched it out anywhere from 15 to 30 minutes, I guess, usually.
• 19:58
  Nate Vianio: But the idea was that, you know, these would be for the Christian, with a short attention span and what have you.
• 20:03
  Nate Vianio: But where the shift, though, that you speak of came when, now, you were talking about the Barna study here, which I mean, I've known of Barna for years and I've read these studies for years, I saw a study late last year that kind of do you remember going to church and they'd have those Our Daily Bread?
• 20:31
  Daniel Moore: devotionals or whatever.
• 20:32
  Daniel Moore: We get those at work actually.
• 20:32
  Daniel Moore: Yeah, yeah, we're a work at.
• 20:34
  Nate Vianio: So there's an organization Our Daily Bread and what have you.
• 20:37
  Nate Vianio: They had a research team or whatever.
• 20:43
  Nate Vianio: How that's all organized I don't know, but they called it the Center for Bible Engagement and they released a study that happened over and it's a significant study.
• 20:55
  Nate Vianio: It may not be real popular in terms of in church circles recognizing Barna.
• 21:00
  Nate Vianio: I think if you go to any church and you say Barna, most church-going folks are going to know especially pastoral leadership individuals are going to be familiar with Barna.
• 21:07
  Nate Vianio: I think if you go to any church and you say Barna, most church-going folks are going to know especially pastoral leadership individuals are going to be familiar with Barna.
• 21:10
  Nate Vianio: I was not familiar with this Center for Bible Engagement.
• 21:16
  Nate Vianio: In fact, the name sounded kind of odd to me to begin with, but as I dug into it, not only looking at their results but looking at the fact that the manner in which they went about their study was very academically sound we're not talking about a couple of you know guys.
• 21:31
  Nate Vianio: You know shooting out some emails and then you know jotting down some notes.
• 21:36
  Nate Vianio: You know, from response.
• 21:37
  Nate Vianio: We're talking I believe it's well over 100,000 people responding to this over a 10 year period of time, and I think one of them actually might've been pushing 400,000 responses.
• 21:47
  Nate Vianio: So we're talking about and I'll get you the links on those so you can include those in the show notes for people.
• 21:53
  Nate Vianio: But the key, all of that said, building up to this one point that made the difference for me, the key point that they made in their entire study and this goes all the way back to 2000, between 2009 and 2010 I believe 2012 maybe they said that the key Christian discipline, if you want to see growth In a Christian's life, the key discipline would be Not prayer, not church attendance, not giving, not fellowship, not small groups.
• 22:32
  Nate Vianio: There's a laundry list of these Christian disciplines that you would put out there.
• 22:36
  Nate Vianio: The singular, most telling discipline would be Bible reading, and Bible reading four times or more per week.
• 22:52
  Nate Vianio: Now, what it showed was that those who read their Bible four times or more per week are half as likely to have any of your vices going on Immorality issues, tobacco, life-controlling issues, alcohol, drugs, anger, outbursts, even some of the more.
• 23:14
  Nate Vianio: They're spiritually dangerous but they're physically tame in the sense of sins in the gossip jealousy realm, sins in the gossip jealousy realm.
• 23:30
  Nate Vianio: People had reported half as likely to have those difficulties if they're in the word four times or more per week.
• 23:33
  Nate Vianio: If you back that up to three times, two times, one time, one, two, three times per week is exactly equal to zero.
• 23:42
  Nate Vianio: There's no difference in getting into your Bible.
• 23:47
  Nate Vianio: According to their study, there's no difference in the behavioral outcome or current condition of a person's life as far as correlating it to being in the Bible, unless it's four or more times per week.
• 23:59
  Nate Vianio: And that's what their study is, and people know.
• 24:01
  Nate Vianio: People can can read that Now.
• 24:04
  Nate Vianio: Where that clicked for me was is that if you go back to 2014,.
• 24:11
  Nate Vianio: Now I grew up in the church, but without getting into my personal story, uh, completely 2013, 14 and 15 were some pretty rough years in my life, and there were years that God dealt with me pretty, pretty hardcore head on in some areas and what I found in there?
• 24:34
  Nate Vianio: God set me free from some things, but in doing so, it involved me getting into scripture, and this is way before I knew that this study existed, and so when I read that study, I looked at that and I was like man in my life since 2015, when God rearranged it divinely and set me on a course.
• 24:58
  Nate Vianio: The major component to that was me getting in the scriptures daily and spending lots of time in the scripture.
• 25:08
  Nate Vianio: The word is powerful.
• 25:09
  Nate Vianio: You know when Paul talks to Timothy about you know how powerful it is.
• 25:14
  Nate Vianio: And what is it?
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  Nate Vianio: 2 Timothy 3.16,.
• 25:18
  Nate Vianio: You know it's God breathed.
• 25:20
  Nate Vianio: It's useful for training and rebuking and reproof.
• 25:25
  Nate Vianio: And in Hebrews the writer of Hebrews says that you know it's sharper than a two-edged sword and it can divide.
• 25:30
  Nate Vianio: It's very powerful in its ability to accurately separate between a right motive and a wrong motive, wrapped around the same behavior or the same action.
• 25:41
  Nate Vianio: And you know you can fool people around you.
• 25:46
  Nate Vianio: You can fool your spouse for a while, you can fool the pastor and everybody you go to church with or work with, or the kids your own kids or whatever.
• 25:52
  Nate Vianio: But man, when you get serious about letting God have his way in your life and you get into the word, that word will come in there and it'll start to work.
• 26:01
  Nate Vianio: It'll do that.
• 26:02
  Nate Vianio: It'll start separating.
• 26:04
  Daniel Moore: We're sitting in with Nate Vainio this week, the host of Something to Gnaw on podcast, talking about is the Bible relevant?
• 26:11
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• 26:13
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• 26:14
  Daniel Moore: We're going to take a short break here for a moment and when we come back we'll continue this discussion.
• 26:19
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• 28:00
  Daniel Moore: I'm daniel moore.
• 28:01
  Daniel Moore: This is connecting the gap.
• 28:02
  Daniel Moore: We're sitting in with nate vineo this week and we're talking about god's word and how it can be powerful in our lives.
• 28:08
  Daniel Moore: We've made it through the first part of episode one for this week and now we're going to go ahead and continue that discussion with Nate Vainio here on Connecting the Gap.
• 28:19
  Nate Vianio: So I look at that historically, knowing that that's what had happened in my life and God had just radically turned my life around, set me free from an addiction to pornography or a stronghold to pornography.
• 28:31
  Nate Vianio: Maybe calling it an addiction was too far over the top.
• 28:35
  Nate Vianio: For some people it was a stronghold.
• 28:37
  Nate Vianio: Whatever you want to call it, it's not an issue anymore as of 2015.
• 28:42
  Nate Vianio: It's not, and a major component of that is not necessarily just being set free from something, but learning how to live free, and part of that learning how to live free is getting into the Word and learning how to what I call breathe Scripture.
• 28:59
  Nate Vianio: And so when we talk about this season and what was so important about this season was I was looking at that survey and I just had this sense with my podcast of man I just want to do more to get people to get deeper into the Word themselves, and so the longing of my heart in doing that was to step back and do a crash course through the Old Testament.
• 29:29
  Nate Vianio: Now, I haven't taken on the New Testament yet, but think of it like the 50,000-foot view or whatever You're looking at things, and I think sometimes one of the things I was reading in that article was that there are some times that people look at the Bible as somewhat of an ominous and foreboding, and it's I mean, it's thick, you know, you're talking about 66 books, you know, and there's an Old Testament and there's a New Testament, and there's a lot of people that don't understand this.
• 30:00
  Nate Vianio: And so I wanted to just dive in and say, okay, let's take the edge off of this.
• 30:05
  Nate Vianio: Let's not look at this as, first and foremost, it is God's Word.
• 30:14
  Nate Vianio: That's full stop, end of story.
• 30:18
  Nate Vianio: There are those who might look at that and they want to take it apart as a theological document.
• 30:22
  Nate Vianio: Not going to argue with that at all, that's just not my, you know, when I get my doctorate, you know, maybe I could do that, you know.
• 30:29
  Nate Vianio: But you know, to me there's an element of being able to simply understand things based upon understanding that they're a story.
• 30:39
  Nate Vianio: There's a story being told here, and so the crash course through the Old Testament is literally that I cover Genesis, exodus, leviticus, numbers and Deuteronomy in one 30-minute episode, but it's just a massively quick overview and then boom, we're into the history books and history is a story.
• 31:01
  Nate Vianio: And so we start telling the stories about Moses and the Israelites in Egypt and being sent to the promised land and you know running circles in the desert, and then the kings and the judges, and you know you go through all that.
• 31:15
  Nate Vianio: Then we get to the books of poetry or wisdom and what have you, and then we'll get into.
• 31:22
  Nate Vianio: Finally, we ended up getting into the books of prophecy.
• 31:26
  Nate Vianio: We ended up getting into the books of prophecy and about the time I got to the book of Isaiah I had this moment of well, we're going to switch from a crash course through the Old Testament to taking the scenic route.
• 31:39
  Nate Vianio: And I don't know if you've been out and about in a drive with the family, you know cross country or something like that, but there's this great drive across.
• 31:46
  Nate Vianio: If you go across I-90 in South Dakota, you can do your crash course and you can get from east to west through South Dakota, which can be quite boring for the most part.
• 31:56
  Nate Vianio: Sorry to any of our friends from South Dakota, but I do my best to go through there very fast.
• 32:02
  Nate Vianio: But there is a scenic route and you can get out and you can see the Black Hills and you can see Mount Rushmore and you can see the, the uh, the black Hills, and you can see Mount Rushmore and you can see.
• 32:11
  Nate Vianio: You can see some really cool stuff, and so that's what we're going to do with this study in Isaiah.
• 32:15
  Nate Vianio: And then I got to one of the Kings and it's like, oh man, now I'm this study currently is on King Ahaz and it's like, okay, now we've gone from a crash course to a scenic route and now I'm camping out in chapters seven, eight and nine of Isaiah.
• 32:29
  Nate Vianio: So you know, I'm not sure where we're going to end up and when we're going to get there, but for what it's worth, that's the snapshot.
• 32:39
  Daniel Moore: Yeah Well, you guys are tuned in to Connecting the Gap podcast.
• 32:43
  Daniel Moore: I'm Daniel Moore.
• 32:44
  Daniel Moore: I've got Nate Vainio with me this week.
• 32:45
  Daniel Moore: He's the host for Something to Knot On podcast.
• 32:49
  Daniel Moore: And you'll have to excuse my dogs.
• 32:52
  Daniel Moore: They're downstairs doing something and barking.
• 32:54
  Daniel Moore: I'm sure it's probably coming over the microphones here, but we're just going to plow right on through that this week and let that be the case.
• 33:01
  Daniel Moore: So hopefully they're having fun down there doing whatever they're doing.
• 33:05
  Daniel Moore: But yeah, so, as I've been, you know, listening to your podcast here since you've been doing the crash course, I highly recommend that for anyone that really struggles understanding the Word, really struggles with studying the Word and trying to figure out what these chapters are, I think that with the material that you've laid out for each of the different books in the Bible, I think there's just enough nuggets there just to raise somebody's interest you know a little bit and get them curious about what else is there.
• 33:37
  Daniel Moore: And you know we were talking a little bit earlier too.
• 33:40
  Daniel Moore: It's just one of those things where a lot of times I don't know people.
• 33:44
  Daniel Moore: You know, there was a time in my life as well when I kind of thought the Bible was a little boring, but I was younger back then and wasn't really where I needed to be with God, and there was a lot of reasons for that.
• 33:56
  Daniel Moore: But my story is kind of similar to yours as well, because there was a time in my life that pornography was an issue for me and that's one of the ways that I ended up whipping it as well.
• 34:08
  Daniel Moore: Now my wife and I we've been life group leaders for several years now.
• 34:12
  Daniel Moore: We started with kids, we went to youth, we've been to young adults and now we're doing adult life groups.
• 34:17
  Daniel Moore: But the couple about four or five years there that we did the young adults several times and this was like the college age, career aged young adults and we had, you know, several different times we had a run in with some of those that had some addiction or strongholds, I guess you could say, of the pornography and that kind of thing.
• 34:39
  Daniel Moore: And that's one of the first things that I, the very first question I would always ask them.
• 34:44
  Daniel Moore: When they'd come up to me and tell me that they're struggling with something like that, the first thing I'd ask them is how much are you in the Word, how much are you praying and really spending your time with God?
• 34:54
  Daniel Moore: Because that's always a dead giveaway that they don't have the time.
• 35:00
  Daniel Moore: Their priorities are out of whack.
• 35:02
  Nate Vianio: Yeah, you set yourself up, you create a gross vulnerability in in your own life yeah, you sure do and it's.
• 35:13
  Nate Vianio: And what's interesting is, if that is so and and I'm pretty sure we're going to be developing this a little more as we talk here but you go back to this, um, you know, okay, so there was an era, if we can kind of press pause on that part of it and step backwards to this there was an era.
• 35:34
  Nate Vianio: You go all the way back to the 1500s when you have, say, tyndale, you know, trying to get the Bible into every man's hand, because they've got it captured in the Latin, you know, and it's, you've got this void of God.
• 35:51
  Nate Vianio: God's word is just not in the hearts and the minds of people.
• 35:55
  Nate Vianio: They have no access to it.
• 35:57
  Nate Vianio: And so, tyndale, you know, of course the church comes after him and what have you?
• 36:00
  Nate Vianio: So you see this.
• 36:01
  Nate Vianio: In that area, you see an attack on the word of keeping it out of the hearts and the minds of the people.
• 36:07
  Nate Vianio: Yeah, on the word of keeping it out of the hearts and the minds of the people.
• 36:10
  Nate Vianio: And you see, oppression, and you see and I think there are those probably who would argue about whether or not that is the cause for the dark ages or whatever I think that's kind of the error there.
• 36:19
  Nate Vianio: But on the flip side of that, we are so far the opposite end of that now, and thank God for guys like Tyndale and Gutenberg and the press and all that kind of stuff that made it possible for us to have five Bibles on our kitchen table or our coffee table or what have you.
• 36:39
  Nate Vianio: Now the challenge is, if you got them there, how do we crack it open?
• 36:43
  Nate Vianio: And at the same time, you mentioned it in one of the notations you had in the deal that we went through a moment ago.
• 36:53
  Nate Vianio: I mean, it's a best-selling book, but how available is it online?
• 36:59
  Nate Vianio: Yeah, now there's an interesting—I was thinking about this earlier today.
• 37:04
  Nate Vianio: I had a friend whose dad got audited by the IRS and he was kind of the ornery sort, not a big fan of government, not a big fan of working with somebody who could make your life to steal a phrase from others a living hell in terms of being audited by the IRS.
• 37:26
  Nate Vianio: I can't fathom what that would be like in terms of being audited by the IRS.
• 37:29
  Nate Vianio: I can't fathom what that would be like.
• 37:31
  Nate Vianio: But he received a note for him to bring his documents and his receipts and whatever down for a meeting at the IRS office and whatever, to be audited.
• 37:36
  Nate Vianio: And let's just say he wasn't the greatest with his record keeping and so he took a dolly down there with four uh file boxes full of his stuff, with his organizational prowess, and delivered it.
• 37:56
  Nate Vianio: I said here you go, it's all right here, and uh, needless to say, that didn't really work out well for him.
• 38:03
  Nate Vianio: But at the same time you you know, if you watch any legal thrillers every now and then they'll do stuff like that.
• 38:09
  Nate Vianio: If you're looking for a piece of evidence or whatever, it'll get buried and they have to give it to you when they do their evidence exchange.
• 38:19
  Nate Vianio: I don't know what the legal term for it is whole idea that you get buried in so much.
• 38:28
  Nate Vianio: And it's with the scriptures.
• 38:29
  Nate Vianio: It's so accessible that none of us you know there's so many people just completely bypass it because we have so many bibles sitting here and a bible sitting there.
• 38:41
  Nate Vianio: We have it on our phone, we can download.
• 38:43
  Nate Vianio: You could google a verse and it take you right there.
• 38:46
  Nate Vianio: You don't have to memorize anything anymore because you got google and you can type in four words and it'd take you right there.
• 38:48
  Nate Vianio: You don't have to memorize anything anymore because you've got Google and you can type in four words and it'll pull up because of its algorithm.
• 38:53
  Nate Vianio: It'll pull up that exact verse, you know.
• 38:55
  Nate Vianio: And so the need or necessity to memorize Scripture like people used to in the past isn't as pronounced right now.
• 39:05
  Nate Vianio: And so when you think of people, you know people struggling with those.
• 39:09
  Nate Vianio: When you think of people struggling with things of that nature, that the odd picture of it is they're drowning in it and they've probably got four or five Bibles and access to it on their phone and they're just not getting into it.
• 39:26
  Daniel Moore: And that's painful, that hurts on their phone and they're just not getting into it and that's painful, that hurts, yeah, and you know you can.
• 39:30
  Daniel Moore: You can even go as far, even online, with your phones or whatever.
• 39:34
  Daniel Moore: In a lot of cases you can actually get the context of the scripture and actually dig deeper, you know, if you want to.
• 39:47
  Daniel Moore: And I think knowing all of that and having that kind of knowledge but people not using it is such a shame, yeah, because now I know we do have to be careful because we do want to remember that everything online isn't kosher.
• 39:56
  Daniel Moore: You can get into those false prophet narratives or whatever, those false teachings and that kind of thing, if you're not careful.
• 40:03
  Daniel Moore: But as long as you're staying within the scope of a good biblical sound place that that is coming from, there's really no excuse for why people don't get into the Word.
• 40:19
  Daniel Moore: And I've got tons of Bibles, all different versions and all kinds of different things here at my home and I see that a lot of places that I go I'll see people, they'll have them sitting around or whatever, and a lot of them have dust all over them.
• 40:36
  Daniel Moore: You know, it's just it becomes one of those, one of those things.
• 40:38
  Daniel Moore: But so in your opinion, you know, how does, how does the Bible shape our lives and our daily decisions and you know if, if we get into those issues where we do have upon us such as the pornography or becoming a perpetual liar or all these different things that we can let Satan pronounce over our lives, if the Bible's there and we're having these issues, how can we utilize the Bible to shape those things and fix that stuff?
• 41:14
  Nate Vianio: I would say first that those issues are rarely singular.
• 41:18
  Nate Vianio: It's not like somebody's going to be struggling with an issue like that and it's just the one and only issue.
• 41:26
  Daniel Moore: The one and only sin they have.
• 41:28
  Nate Vianio: You're not jealous, you're not unforgiving, you don't have any issues with bitterness, you're not sowing dissension in the church in any way, shape or form.
• 41:37
  Nate Vianio: Some of these other boy, you just have that one deal.
• 41:42
  Nate Vianio: Wow, you're unique.
• 41:44
  Nate Vianio: You know, I'm sorry I kind of poke and prod and joke at that, but the way that I've experienced it is that there are the other things like the lack of forgiveness and bitterness, jealousy, um, some of those things that are a little more subtle have a working effect that push you towards those other things.
• 42:17
  Nate Vianio: So I've got a friend that had come out of I'm thinking he's 30 years sober now, but come out of the AA program, and he made an observation at one point in time in reference to the verse in Romans about making no provision for the flesh to satisfy the lust, and it was very.
• 42:39
  Nate Vianio: It's one of those statements that you might only hear from somebody who's lived that type of life.
• 42:46
  Nate Vianio: You know where he was.
• 42:47
  Nate Vianio: Uh, I mean probably 30 years, 30 years sober and 30 years not sober.
• 42:55
  Nate Vianio: You know, I mean it was that not sober.
• 42:59
  Nate Vianio: You know, I mean it was that, it was that bad.
• 43:00
  Nate Vianio: But um, the drug will create a situation where the drug itself is the only solution to the person who doesn't come to Christ.
• 43:07
  Nate Vianio: Wow, so you know, if, if, if somebody's struggling with alcohol, it's not that alcohol is just going to step up and go hey, here I am, but the alcohol and that addiction is going to create drama, it's going to create hurt, it's going to create pain, and when that hurt and pain reach a certain level, the alcohol steps up and says hey, I can solve your problem.
• 43:36
  Nate Vianio: Alcohol steps up and says hey, I can solve your problem.
• 43:38
  Nate Vianio: Yeah, and it's the same way with pornography, immorality issues, other other in the lists of of sins of the flesh.
• 43:46
  Nate Vianio: There are other things on there that, like I said, what I was saying up, leading up to that, was simply to say that it's rarely one, it's rarely one of those behaviors and usually it's moving.
• 43:59
  Nate Vianio: For me, there was a lot of unforgiveness and bitterness and and, uh, and I can go back and I can look at that historically and see how, um, the hurt would happen, and then out of the hurt would come frustration and anger and irritation and agitation, all those things, and then the bitterness and whatever, and then it would erupt.
• 44:21
  Nate Vianio: And then you know the stronghold to step up and say, hey, I can help you out here.
• 44:26
  Nate Vianio: You know I can, we, can, you know we, we, we can help you out here and it's and, and so what happens is in, in my to to turn the corner on this conversation and come back to how it is that Scripture helps in this was that God revealed to me this way before we got to these surveys we were talking about, but that to quote Scripture, not just to get in and read it, and there's an important conversation that I think we're heading down that path now, not just up until now.
• 45:01
  Nate Vianio: We've talked about, yeah, we really need to be in the Word reading it, but there is a power in speaking Scripture that I think, for the most part, we have really done ourselves a disservice and our fellow brothers and sisters a disservice by not emphasizing as a Christian discipline and we'll get to that here in a minute and I can tell you just a story about where I was at in that moment was when God revealed to me the level of my anger and my hurt and all that nasty stuff, because a lot of times I was thinking about this.
• 45:41
  Nate Vianio: The other day I was like you know, we think about the sin as like you know going off the cliff and hitting the.
• 45:49
  Nate Vianio: You know the bad part of it is when you hit the ground and you know it just all blows up and it's like, well, that's the effect of it.
• 45:56
  Nate Vianio: The sin was taking that first step off and you really didn't feel the pain and suffering of that until you came to a complete stop at a movable object.
• 46:05
  Nate Vianio: So, as God was walking me through this process, obviously we come to a conclusion that, hey, yes, this is a stronghold, this is bad.
• 46:16
  Nate Vianio: Okay, you and I, Lord, we can agree, this is bad.
• 46:20
  Nate Vianio: Pornography is a bad deal, but it wasn't necessarily the cause, it wasn't those provisions of the flesh that led up to that.
• 46:28
  Nate Vianio: And so what ended up happening is the Lord began to reveal to me the anger and the hurt and how to respond to that, and so what ended up happening for me was I was working at the time and this this is going to crack you up, I think if you could picture what this would look like.
• 46:43
  Nate Vianio: But I was driving a forklift in a 400,000 square foot dog food warehouse where they were storing this stuff, and I would be driving along and I'd be thinking about things that were going on, and without anything going on in any provocation, the devil would pop a thought in my mind and next thing, you know man, I'd be gritting my teeth and I'd be thinking about that person and they did me wrong this way and I and I'd be spinning and I'd be all gnarled up and historically I'd have been struggling just because I'm rehashing the same old stuff.
• 47:13
  Daniel Moore: Yeah.
• 47:14
  Nate Vianio: Well.
• 47:14
  Nate Vianio: So I caught a sermon series by a guy named Robert Morris and the sermon series was Free Indeed.
• 47:25
  Nate Vianio: And in the Free Indeed series one of the things he talked about was there's a tempted, and there's so much to talk about in that episode too, in that picture, that episode of the Gospels, jesus' response to him three times in a row is to quote Scripture.
• 47:54
  Nate Vianio: And by all means Jesus has every right, based upon his deity, to say get out of here, leave me alone.
• 48:03
  Nate Vianio: But he faces the devil head on in the same manner in which you and I would face him, and he gives us a picture of how to stand on the word.
• 48:14
  Nate Vianio: And it's to respond to a lie with truth.
• 48:19
  Nate Vianio: It is written and he quotes scripture.
• 48:22
  Nate Vianio: He quotes from deuteronomy now, and that my, and that's part of the reason why I went back to the old testament on that.
• 48:28
  Nate Vianio: You know, the crash course deal is that you understand that.
• 48:32
  Nate Vianio: I mean, that's the background and there's power in deuteronomy j, jesus is quoting it and the devil runs.
• 48:39
  Nate Vianio: Come on.
• 48:39
  Nate Vianio: You know what's.
• 48:41
  Daniel Moore: That's getting better than that.
• 48:42
  Nate Vianio: Yeah, so there's.
• 48:44
  Nate Vianio: And in the first one, in the first interaction between Jesus and the devil.
• 48:50
  Nate Vianio: There he says you know, Jesus is just coming out of the fast, and you could imagine the angst going on on in his body and spirit, you know, of being tired and hungry and all that good stuff.
• 49:03
  Nate Vianio: And the devil comes at him and says hey, you know if you are, if you are, he challenges his identity.
• 49:08
  Nate Vianio: Yeah, you know if you are who you say you are.
• 49:12
  Nate Vianio: Turn these stones to bread, and, uh, and what I love about his response to it is he addresses it.
• 49:18
  Nate Vianio: He says it is written man shall not live by bread alone and this is the kicker but by every word that proceeds out of the mouth of the Father.
• 49:30
  Nate Vianio: And so you start.
• 49:34
  Nate Vianio: This is a great jumping off point, for and I say jumping off point People are thinking how much longer are they going to be talking about this?
• 49:41
  Nate Vianio: Well, hang tight.
• 49:43
  Nate Vianio: You can press pause.
• 49:43
  Nate Vianio: If this is too long for you, you can press pause and chew on it for a while and come back.
• 49:48
  Nate Vianio: But the beauty of this, though, is when I've spoken and sometimes I can get kind of snarky and jokey or whatever with people, but I've had the opportunity to speak to a couple of groups and I've said this from time to time, but you know, like we were in our living free group and I had the whole group.
• 50:06
  Nate Vianio: Um, just say, Joe and Carolyn, we love you, you know, and and, uh, so everybody hollers, you know.
• 50:13
  Nate Vianio: Joe and Carolyn, we love you.
• 50:14
  Nate Vianio: I said now say that breathing in this will mess with your head for a minute and people kind of looked at me.
• 50:26
  Nate Vianio: I said you know, don't think about it.
• 50:27
  Nate Vianio: When you speak you're breathing out and so when you breathe in you're not speaking.
• 50:35
  Nate Vianio: That's not how the vocal cords work.
• 50:37
  Nate Vianio: You know, I'm half tempted to even try, but I'm not even going to.
• 50:42
  Nate Vianio: You can press pause on the podcast here, try it in your car, wherever, but when you're speaking you're breathing out at the same time.
• 50:52
  Nate Vianio: And the importance of that with regard to this conversation is when you go back to second Timothy 316, most a lot of versions will say all scripture is God or is given by inspiration of God.
• 51:07
  Nate Vianio: The best translation of that that given by inspiration.
• 51:11
  Nate Vianio: That translation is theo noustos in the Greek, which Theo would be God.
• 51:16
  Nate Vianio: Noustos would be breathe or air-powered God, air-powered.
• 51:24
  Nate Vianio: I say air-powered because for the guys that are out there they would recognize the word pneumatic like a pneumatic tool.
• 51:30
  Nate Vianio: You can drive 10 nails with an eighth of an inch movement of your trigger finger with an air nailer, as opposed to swinging a hammer 40 times.
• 51:40
  Nate Vianio: You know to put that many nails down.
• 51:43
  Nate Vianio: So there's power, there's God-breathed power in all of Scripture, as man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of the Father that there's that dynamic of breath and word and each word is thrust forward with breath, with power.
• 52:15
  Daniel Moore: Well, this week we've been sitting in with Nate Vainio.
• 52:17
  Daniel Moore: He's the host of Something to Gnaw on podcast I'm starting to say the host of mine, but I'm Daniel Moore.
• 52:20
  Daniel Moore: I'm the host here with Connecting the Gap podcast and hopefully you guys have enjoyed this first episode with him.
• 52:25
  Daniel Moore: We're going to come back here next week and we'll finish up this interview that we had with Nate some really cool stuff in next week's episode as well and hope that you enjoyed this week.
• 52:35
  Daniel Moore: You know the Bible is God's holy spoken word.
• 52:38
  Daniel Moore: It's very important for today and, as we've, there are now some statistics this week.
• 52:44
  Daniel Moore: You can see that the Bible itself is not being read like it should be.
• 52:47
  Daniel Moore: There's just a lot of cases where the Bible is the most sold book in the world and it is the actual book that more people own than any other book that's ever been printed.
• 53:00
  Daniel Moore: But as you can tell, as we've been talking here, that just because people purchase it or have it sitting on their bookshelves does not mean that they actually read.
• 53:09
  Daniel Moore: God's Word this week has inspired you to maybe pick up your Bible and dust off the covers and open it up and just see what God will speak to you through his holy word, his word, called the Bible.
• 53:27
  Daniel Moore: Well, that's going to do it for this week.
• 53:29
  Daniel Moore: We'll be back next week and we'll finish up this interview with Nate Vainio and we'll get on to other things after that.
• 53:36
  Daniel Moore: He's going to be coming back for some more episodes, also here this month, so we're looking forward to that and I guess until then, you can go to my website, connectingthegapnet, check out everything about our podcast and you can subscribe and share.
• 53:49
  Daniel Moore: And if you think anybody would benefit from this episode and next week episode, once it releases, then please share that to them and maybe it'll inspire someone else to pick up God's Word and read it as well.
• 54:01
  Daniel Moore: The Bible will definitely change your life, there's no doubt about that.
• 54:05
  Daniel Moore: Well, I'm out of here for this week, until next week.
• 54:08
  Daniel Moore: Don't forget that God's Word never fails us.
• 54:10
  Daniel Moore: God's Word has stood the test of time and through Jesus' death on the cross, he has connected the gap.
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  Daniel Moore: You've been listening to Connecting the Gap podcast.
• 54:19
  Daniel Moore: I'm Daniel Moore, the host for this podcast, and I personally thank you for listening.
• 54:23
  Daniel Moore: Each week In this world, there are many disconnects that cause chaos in our lives.
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  Daniel Moore: This podcast is birthed from the desire to share hope and restoration of the power of the gospel by being transparent and open in our biblical walk with God.
• 54:36
  Daniel Moore: Each week, we take a few moments as we navigate God's word and peer into other people's testimonies and encourage each other.
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