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LNC Gets Severed · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Large Ner Drunk Colladder podcast,
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  Speaker 1: the podcast that's all about the geeky things happening in
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  Speaker 1: the world around us and how very excited we are
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  Speaker 1: about them. I am Ariel Caston, and with me, as
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  Speaker 1: always is the superb Jonathan Strickland.
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  Speaker 2: It's almost February.
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  Speaker 1: It is almost February. For February February.
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  Speaker 2: I say it in a wee rebebrary. Yeah. We're recording
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  Speaker 2: this on the very last day of January in twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty five, so it just sounds diurdy January. Yeah. I
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  Speaker 2: want to say that was in a Hugh Laurie bit.
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  Speaker 2: It was a bit of Fry and Laurie and Hugh
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  Speaker 2: Laurie is playing the piano and singing this song called Mystery,
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  Speaker 2: and so he tries to rhyme January with Mystery, so
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  Speaker 2: it says January. Yeah. I say that because we've got
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  Speaker 2: some stories today that are going to tie in a
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  Speaker 2: little bit to February. Also, it means we're out of
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  Speaker 2: the doldrums of January. There's a YouTube channel called Red
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  Speaker 2: Letter Media. I reference them a few times. They are
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  Speaker 2: pretty blue with their language, but they do a lot
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  Speaker 2: of pop culture related stuff like they watch really bad
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  Speaker 2: movies or they'll do a deep dive on a new
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  Speaker 2: movie that they're both in that the people are interested
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  Speaker 2: in seeing, which isn't always the same as the you know,
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  Speaker 2: the top movies at the theater. But one of the
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  Speaker 2: things they have is a beep you It's January motif
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  Speaker 2: where they talk about it's the month where studios regularly
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  Speaker 2: dump all the films they don't know what to do with.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, as opposed to isn't it like Dar Williams who
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  Speaker 1: has a song about how crappy February is.
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  Speaker 2: It's possible, well, February is a crappy month. Dark Williams,
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  Speaker 2: Gilbert and Sullivan reference it in Pirates of Penzance. You know,
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  Speaker 2: they say twenty eight days for such a beastly month
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  Speaker 2: as February. Twenty eight days as a rule are plenty.
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  Speaker 2: Because they're doing the whole song about how Frederick was
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  Speaker 2: unfortunately born on the twenty ninth of February during a
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  Speaker 2: leap year. Anyway, no one cares about that, apart from
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  Speaker 2: other operetta geeks.
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  Speaker 1: No, that is really that is really cool. I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: that Dar Williams and Gilbert and Sullivan have similar sensibilities
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  Speaker 1: about the calendar.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but theoretically February is at least a little better
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  Speaker 2: than January as far as the quality of films that
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  Speaker 2: come out. For example, I don't see on February slate
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  Speaker 2: a Craven the Hunter, so.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well it's also not on the January slate.
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  Speaker 2: And that's true. That came out in December, didn't it
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  Speaker 2: It did?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I.
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  Speaker 2: Can't even tell what time is anymore.
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  Speaker 1: But oh hey, that that gives me a moment to
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  Speaker 1: say the thing that we cut out of the line
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  Speaker 1: because cutting stuff out makes no sense, which is yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Craven the Hunter did so unwell that Sony has taken
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  Speaker 1: off an untitled Marvel movie from their slate, it's not
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  Speaker 1: quite a full thirty seconds to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah. So so we suspect we have an idea
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  Speaker 2: of what that movie might have been, but we're not sure.
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  Speaker 2: It probably was yet another I mean, it certainly was
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  Speaker 2: another spin off of their little Spider Verse thing there.
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  Speaker 2: They're Spider Man less Spider Verse thing, because you know,
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  Speaker 2: they don't actually use Spider Sometimes they reference them, but
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  Speaker 2: they don't ever have them appearing in them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I watched the The Honest Movie review for Craven
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  Speaker 1: the Hunter and some of the eighty r in that
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  Speaker 1: I just don't understand. I don't understand it. Yeah, does
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  Speaker 1: put out good movies well?
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  Speaker 2: And like I want to say, wasn't it like every
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  Speaker 2: line that the villain had in Madam Webb turned out
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  Speaker 2: to be ADR something? Yeah, so like Sony.
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  Speaker 1: And Morpheus had bad ADR too.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It feels like they're trying to address a bad
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  Speaker 2: script by trying to rewrite it after they've already filmed
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  Speaker 2: it and then use ADR to kind of shove new
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  Speaker 2: lines in there. Or maybe they're like, oh, it turns
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  Speaker 2: out audiences have no idea what's going on because we
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  Speaker 2: didn't really link these scenes together properly. So now we
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  Speaker 2: need to put some obvious exposition in there so that
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  Speaker 2: audiences know what's happening. It's not a good sign. So
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  Speaker 2: it's probably the best decision Sony could make. A lot
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  Speaker 2: of people have been pontificating that Craven the Hunter was
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  Speaker 2: going to be the nail and the coffin for the
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  Speaker 2: Sony Spider Man, like the spinoff stuff, not the actual
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  Speaker 2: Spider Man movies, but all the the extenuating stuff, at
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  Speaker 2: least for the time.
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  Speaker 1: Being, which you know, I will say it's a shame
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  Speaker 1: because it's hard when you're trying to do characters around
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  Speaker 1: a very specific character that has already made a lot
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  Speaker 1: of public appearance in media. But I'm all for lesser
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  Speaker 1: known heroes getting their heyday or anti heroes or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: It is, just you have to do it good.
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  Speaker 2: Well. Yeah, I mean, if you're doing it without the
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  Speaker 2: hero that they're most commonly associated with, then you're like,
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  Speaker 2: the only reason this character exists is because they're part
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  Speaker 2: of the pantheon of this larger, more important character. And
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  Speaker 2: if you're not including that larger, more important character in
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  Speaker 2: these other stories, it turns out there's just not enough
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  Speaker 2: to support them to have their own narrative.
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  Speaker 1: It would be like having an entire Disney movie about
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  Speaker 1: who instead of the rest of the Aladdin characters, right right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: You know, pick in the minor supporting character from any
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  Speaker 2: movie and say, all right, we're gonna do a movie
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  Speaker 2: about this person, but we're never referencing any of the
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  Speaker 2: other characters, let alone the most important ones in the
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  Speaker 2: movie this character's from. Yeah, that would make no sense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and it sounded like I said a poo. I
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  Speaker 1: meant to say a boo, but my lips got very
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  Speaker 1: a little bit chapped and.
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  Speaker 2: Got I almost always say a poo because I forget
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  Speaker 2: that it's a boo. So I'm just gonna put myself
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  Speaker 2: out there as someone who makes that mistake, just, you know, honestly,
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  Speaker 2: and not because my lips get all sticky. So what
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  Speaker 2: have you watched since we last chatted? One thing is
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  Speaker 2: something we both watched.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so I guess I'll start with that one.
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  Speaker 1: So I watched all of season one of Severance over
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  Speaker 1: last weekend and then caught up on season two of
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  Speaker 1: Severance on Monday. And I love it so much. I'm
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  Speaker 1: so mad that I actually, you know what, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: mad that I didn't watch it sooner. The only reason
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  Speaker 1: I'm mad I didn't watch it sooner as because if
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  Speaker 1: it had gotten canceled in the first season, I would
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  Speaker 1: have been a part of the problem. But it's second season.
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  Speaker 1: I'm watching it week to week now. But yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: at the end of season two, episode two, I was like, no,
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait. What I have to wait for the
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  Speaker 1: next episode.
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  Speaker 2: Which I think actually comes out today.
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  Speaker 1: It does, I am watching it tonight.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, it's possible it's already out, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm only up to episode two of season two as well.
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  Speaker 2: I was in the process of rewatching the series, but
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  Speaker 2: I actually didn't finish rewatching season one before season two
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  Speaker 2: came out, and rather than continue on and be patient,
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  Speaker 2: I jumped ahead. But fortunately, if you're like me and
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  Speaker 2: you watch season one but it's been a while, it's
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  Speaker 2: been a while, then you can watch You can watch
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  Speaker 2: season two. The beginning has a nice recap that kind
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  Speaker 2: of gets you back up to speed because there was
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  Speaker 2: some stuff there that I had forgotten about, so it
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  Speaker 2: was good to get the reminder, and it was I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to spoil anything because it's so well done,
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  Speaker 2: but there's a specific way that episode one unfolds that
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  Speaker 2: might some people might find frustrating. But it's fine two. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's fine, Yeah, because episode two takes care of it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna make a quick divergence. You went
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  Speaker 1: it's been a while, which is something they do often
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  Speaker 1: on the Critical Role Tables. Season Bell's Hells is about
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  Speaker 1: to have their final eight hour episode for their third.
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  Speaker 2: Campaign, Good Grevy.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they wanted to like just be able to
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  Speaker 1: wrap everything up.
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  Speaker 2: And is this going to be like the finale for
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  Speaker 2: that those characters and then the next thing they'll do
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  Speaker 2: as a new version or is this like the collusion
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  Speaker 2: of an arc and there'll be another one after it?
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  Speaker 1: Think I think it's going to be for the finales. So,
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  Speaker 1: like you know how you had like the Vox mack
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  Speaker 1: in an arc and then you have the Mighty nine arc,
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  Speaker 1: Bell's Hell's. This is the end of it. But they've also,
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  Speaker 1: I guess minor spoiler if you follow this in Aren't
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  Speaker 1: up to date, Mighty nine and Bell's Hell's and Vox
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  Speaker 1: Macna are all working together, and so you have the
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  Speaker 1: same voice actors playing three different people at the table
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  Speaker 1: and it's hilarious. In this game, it is a lot
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  Speaker 1: of fun. It's episode one ten is where it starts
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  Speaker 1: with Bells Hell's or help Yeah, Bell's Hells and Mighty
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  Speaker 1: nine of this third campaign. So they're doing that, and
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  Speaker 1: then they're gonna have another mini arc of Xandria Unlimited
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  Speaker 1: that Brendan Lee Mulligan's gonna run. They just released a
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  Speaker 1: state of the State of the game critical role video
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  Speaker 1: the other day, So this is how I know all
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  Speaker 1: this yesterday, and Brendan Lee Mulligan's gonna run like another
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  Speaker 1: mini campaign of what happened after the Gods Fell, which
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  Speaker 1: is I think a sequel to Calamity.
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  Speaker 2: And then this was a mini campaign he ran pre
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  Speaker 2: Sleep brilliant and so good. And that's something that happens
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  Speaker 2: like way way, way way before the stories of the
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  Speaker 2: various campaigns, right, because that's like history in those campaigns.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so so after he does that, they're going
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  Speaker 1: to have kind of like a a question and answer
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  Speaker 1: session to talk about all the things that happened.
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  Speaker 2: And kind of a debrief.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they haven't announced what they're going to
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  Speaker 1: do next. Of course, you know they were also affected
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  Speaker 1: by wildfires and.
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  Speaker 2: Stuff like that, So sure.
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  Speaker 1: Who knows. But back, just because you had said that,
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  Speaker 1: it reminded me that's something geeky I meant to put
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  Speaker 1: in and didn't. This is the episode. It's gonna be
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: all over the place, But seven they all are. What'd
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  Speaker 1: you think about the commercial I sent you? Because so
• 10:42
  Speaker 1: doing a lot of weird advertising that I love.
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  Speaker 2: So tell everybody what the commercial's for.
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  Speaker 1: It's for Zip Recruiter and it's from the perspective of
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  Speaker 1: Luman trying to get more employees via Zip Recruiter.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so Zip Recruiter, if you're not familiar, is a
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  Speaker 2: service that tries to help with the identifying good candidates
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  Speaker 2: for open positions process. I don't have anything against Zip Recruiter.
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  Speaker 2: I do have something against a lot of companies that
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  Speaker 2: end up listing jobs that don't actually exist. There's a
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  Speaker 2: whole thing about that. It's not Ziprecruiter's fault. That's the
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  Speaker 2: companies that are claiming that they have a position and
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  Speaker 2: it turns out they don't. That's detestable. But the commercial's
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  Speaker 2: hilarious because it is it does have a hint of
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  Speaker 2: that dystopian nature of Lumen Industries in the actual series.
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  Speaker 2: And for a brand to be like, yeah, sure, let's
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  Speaker 2: associate our established brand that's actually being used to help
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  Speaker 2: for corporate hiring as part of the promotional material for this,
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  Speaker 2: and we'll just well trust the fact that everyone knows
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  Speaker 2: its tongue in cheek and that we're not actually recruiting
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  Speaker 2: for Lumen Industries.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I.
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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  Speaker 1: It is one of the great things about media because
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  Speaker 1: because like you watch so many stories and I will
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: actually touch on this a little bit more with Netflix
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  Speaker 1: is thing that we're going to talk about later, but
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  Speaker 1: or I will at least, Like you watch so many
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  Speaker 1: stories and you're like, oh, that looks like it's it's
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  Speaker 1: so fun, but if you actually put yourself in that position,
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  Speaker 1: it wouldn't be fun. So you watched the ZIP Recruiters, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I want to solve mysteries with these people in limit
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  Speaker 1: industries for severance, and no, you probably really don't, but
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  Speaker 1: imagining it.
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  Speaker 2: Is fun, especially what if you read. If you're like
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  Speaker 2: me and you start reading into fan theories about what's
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  Speaker 2: actually going on, you don't want to be a part
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  Speaker 2: of that. Now that I should add, those are all
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  Speaker 2: fan theories and they may be right, or they may
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  Speaker 2: be way off base. It's also possible that they be
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  Speaker 2: what you're looking for, thanks Billy Joel. But it's also
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  Speaker 2: possible that they are right and that the showrunners will
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  Speaker 2: change where they were headed because they don't want, you know,
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  Speaker 2: so go to a destination that everyone already is aware of,
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  Speaker 2: like we've heard of that happening before too, which is
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  Speaker 2: kind of kind of a bummer because it usually means
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  Speaker 2: that whatever story you do end up with is as strong.
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  Speaker 1: I hope if people guess it, they're really good about
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  Speaker 1: purposefully answering just enough that you feel like you got
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  Speaker 1: a crumb without so much that you're like, well, I've
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  Speaker 1: now solved this. So I hope even if people have
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  Speaker 1: guessed it, it's a fun journey there and they keep it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny because I don't even bother trying to
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  Speaker 2: figure out what's like, I'm just enjoying the ride. Like
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  Speaker 2: as I sit down, I sit there and think like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, I haven't really dedicated much thought into
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  Speaker 2: what actually is going on. And when I was looking
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  Speaker 2: at the fan theory is, I was like, oh, part
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  Speaker 2: of the problem is I have not paid enough attention.
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  Speaker 1: I've only read a couple fan theories because I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to spoil it. I'm enjoying the mystery for once.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I'm the Queen of spoilers, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to spoil it. But the couple that I did
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  Speaker 1: come across, which which was mainly like me self soothing
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  Speaker 1: in the middle of an episode of like does this
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  Speaker 1: person actually do this? And it would bring something up.
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  Speaker 1: The fan theories that they came up with. Maybe I
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  Speaker 1: haven't paid enough attention. I would never have gone there.
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  Speaker 1: Like I have my own theories, but I haven't cross
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  Speaker 1: referenced them.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, well some of it is referencing stuff that
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  Speaker 2: was Like it's one of those things where you really
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  Speaker 2: have to pay a lot of attention to everything that's
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  Speaker 2: going on, not just that what's being said, but stuff
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  Speaker 2: that's appearing on screens or on pieces of paper, that
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  Speaker 2: kind of thing, like stuff where you would have to
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  Speaker 2: pause the playback so that you could watch everything. And
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  Speaker 2: I've always appreciated people who go through that kind of trouble.
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  Speaker 2: I have never been one of those people myself, Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But I love watching other people do it. The other
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  Speaker 1: thing I really love about Severance is this weird marketing,
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  Speaker 1: so like they did the thing in Central Station. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they have this zip recruiter commercial. And I read even
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  Speaker 1: this week that when people are posting online that like
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  Speaker 1: comments on social media that they aren't really caring for
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  Speaker 1: season two or couldn't really get into Severance or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: He's responding to all of them, but in like a
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  Speaker 1: very nice chill way, and so like one person's like
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't get into season Severn's one He's like keep
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  Speaker 1: up with it, and they're like, just kidding, I love it.
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted you to respond to me.
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  Speaker 2: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: But I mean like, yeah, it's really cool.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I've had a few experiences of people that I've
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  Speaker 2: admired responding to me online, and I admit, like, that's
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: a special feeling. When when that happens, I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: leave it there. That story turns sad if I go
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  Speaker 2: to any further. So, so don't Ben.
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  Speaker 1: Stiller's being pretty cool and not trolling people who don't
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  Speaker 1: like severance, but rather just being like, hey, I see.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I have you watched besides all of season
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  Speaker 2: one of Severn's in the first two episodes of season two.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: Actually Came Back, which is dropouts kind of Jeopardy type show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, where they give you they give you a statement
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  Speaker 2: that is almost but not quite correct, and the contestants
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  Speaker 2: have to identify what the wrong part of the statement
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  Speaker 2: is by doing the actually interruption.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, And they had an entire shiny, which is like
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  Speaker 1: a special questions like a double double doubledare double Jeopardy
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. It is like a special question that they
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  Speaker 1: treat in a different way about classic universal monsters. And
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  Speaker 1: I on the one hand, don't feel bad that I
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  Speaker 1: don't have all the knowledge that they put forth, and
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  Speaker 1: on the other hand, felt bad that I did so
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  Speaker 1: badly at it.
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  Speaker 2: To be fair to Ariel, I watched this segment and
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  Speaker 2: it wasn't like they were touching on the big classic universe.
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  Speaker 2: In fact, I disagree with the nomenclature because they say
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  Speaker 2: classic Universal Monsters. I'm like, sorry, none of these are classic.
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  Speaker 2: These are all obscure monster movies that were produced by
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  Speaker 2: Universal Studios, or some of them weren't. Like the question
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  Speaker 2: was which ones were and which ones weren't, But none
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  Speaker 2: of them would qualify as classic Universal monsters.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but still I'm like, I shouldn't know enough
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  Speaker 1: to know whether this is true or not because I
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  Speaker 1: also watch a lot of riff tracks so are used to.
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  Speaker 1: But it was good. It was a good first episode.
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  Speaker 1: I did way more poorly at it than I have
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  Speaker 1: done it pop Culture Jeopardy, which I also finished up
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  Speaker 1: the I don't remember they're calling it, but the initial
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  Speaker 1: rounds to get to the quarterfinals. The last three episodes
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  Speaker 1: released on Wednesday, so that's what I have watchtched you well.
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  Speaker 2: I watched what If. I finished What If season two
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  Speaker 2: and started what if season three? Only the first two
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  Speaker 2: episodes of one of season three? I know a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people, or at least there's a lot of discourse
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  Speaker 2: online discourses being too kind. There's a lot of trolling
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  Speaker 2: online that essentially dismisses season three and says it was
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  Speaker 2: terrible and there's only like maybe one or two good
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: episodes in it. I wouldn't go that far, but I
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: would say that the the Mecca Hulk episode I didn't
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: didn't do anything for me. The Agatha one I thought
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: was okay, except that my partner hasn't seen the Eternals,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: and the Eternals factor heavily into the not just Agatha,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: but throughout season three, So I've had to do a
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: lot of pausing to explain what's going on with the
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Eternals because she's never watched that film. Not that I
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: would suggest she'd do it. I think it's like, you're
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: not going to get anything out of it. It's not
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: a very well done movie, and the only big question
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: is like, are they ever going to do anything with
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: the Black Night or is that just be one of
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: those long forgotten stingers that never really pays off.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Every time they bring something from the Eternals in I'm
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: just really surprised. But they did bring in the best
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: character from the Eternals.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: For the what If episode. Yeah, I don't disagree with that,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: and and he didn't have to get absolutely jacked because
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: it's voice acting.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I really enjoyed season three of what If. And
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I enjoyed the first two episodes, and I
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: feel bad that I oversold it to you, and I
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: know you told me not to, but.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Well, and like I I thought, I thought it was
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: like the first one. I don't know, it just didn't
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: do anything for me, like the whole one part of
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: that is that you're more of the big monsters than
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: I am. I'm not into that so much. So you
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: like your Godzilla's and your king Kongs.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: And I'm also more into like I wouldn't say Gundam,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: but like Transformers and power interesting there was.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: It was definitely a Vultron thing because like they all
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: came together too, and so it was very vultron Ish
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Power Rangers. Yeah, I didn't do anything for me, but
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: I'm still eager to see the rest of season three.
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: I just haven't had time to do it. Beca's been
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: getting home super late, and by the time she gets home,
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: I'm already asleep, so we haven't had time to you know,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna watch that one on my own. I
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: did watch get Away on my own. We talked about
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: get Away last year when we saw the trailers for it.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: It's a film, a horror comedy film that was written
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: partly by Nick Frost and stars Nick Frost. Yeah. Yeah,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: it's where it's a family, a British family, going to
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: this secluded Swedish island where some sort of weird cult
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: activity is going on. Like you get sort of wicker
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Man vibes from the trailer, but it's clearly like a
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: horror comedy and I'm not going to say anything more
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: about it because it's one of those movies where the
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: more you learn about it, the less reason you have
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: to watch it. Right, Like the stuff that happens in
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: the film you can only really experience once. If you
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: want to watch it again, I guess you could. I
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: didn't think it was very good, honestly, but at the
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: same time, I'm like, yeah, but it's also dependent upon
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: a plot development that if you know about going into it,
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: there's no reason to watch the movie. At all. So
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: so I don't want to say anything more about it.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: I will say, like bits of it I thought were amusing.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: There was one element, one thing happens to one character
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: that is pretty extreme. That's not what bothered me. What
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: bothered me was after it happened, there was no reference
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: to that extreme moment ever again, even though it totally
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: would have impacted that character from that point all the
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: way through the rest of the movie, and like for
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: that to have happened and never be addressed again after
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: the moment had happened, I'm like, all right, you're pulling
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: me out of this, because unless it turns out that
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: there's some sort of supernatural thing going on here to
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: explain how this cannot impact this character, you've lost me
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: because it's not humanly possible. Yeah, anyway, that's that's all
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: the dancing around I'll do. I would say that if
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: you're curious about it, if you like horror comedy, you know,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: you can check it out and see if within the
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: first fifteen minutes or so, if you're vibing with the
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: tone of it, and if you're not, you might as
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: well just jump because it's not going to get better.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: That's good that's good to know. Thank you, Thank you
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: for watching the movie. So everybody else knows how long
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: to invest in it before they decaid whether they want
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: to watch it or not.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you might know before that you might be
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: going like, oh wow, this is like totally my jam,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: that's totally that's legit, you know, stick with it. But yeah,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: I watched the whole thing, Like, I didn't bail on it.
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: I watched it till the end credits. I just can't
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: really recommend it because I don't think it was that
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: strong of a film.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been making a lot of stuff and none
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: of it hits me as particularly strong. But sometimes sometimes
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: you gotta try stuff till something lands.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I still kind of want to see the one
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: that looks like it's a body horror movie more, you know,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: like psycho body horror movie where it's like the it
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: looks like it's a TV studio. Yeah, like it looks
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: like it's a sitcom that where he ends up trapping
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: people in there and then he's like going psycho on them.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I kind of still want to see that one. I
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: don't even remember what the title is. I'd have to
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: look it up again. I just look up Nick Frost
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: and see what one of the twenty horror movies he
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: made last year.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I absolutely do not want to see that one. I
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: know it is not for me in any former fashion.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: The honestly, the one that looks get Away look to
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: the most appealing. But I think probably the one that's
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: going to be the highest quality is the one where
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: he's the cab driver.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I forgot about that one too. You're right, he
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: has done so much.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Now maybe that one's come out too. I don't know.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: I don't watch you guys all know I don't watch
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: a lot of horror movies. So it has to it's
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: got to have a really.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Cool hook for me. So yeah, you know, like like
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: like a movie with like I know what you did
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: last summer where it literally has a cool hook.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Although I was watching After Midnight last night because
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: that's my I need to shut my brain down before
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: I go to bed show. And it had three of
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: the stars who were in the Companion that's coming out,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: or two of the stars.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: So Jack Quaid and No No, it.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Had Wow Lucas Cage, and it had Kitlin Riley. We're
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: both also in Dead Boy Detectives together and Kitlyn Riley
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: does a bunch of stuff on Dropout. But Luke Cage
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: was the cat king.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: Oh got you got you got.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: You Lucas Cage and is also in the Smile too.
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: So two of the actors, I don't know if the
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: third one was in the Campaig, but they showed a
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: little clip from it and it brought it from scary
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: to tongue in cheek and both of the both the
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: actors were saying that it is campy and spoofy, and
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: so I might actually give that a try.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: Now, okay, well there we go. So's there's the stuff
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: what we have watched.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: We're already an hour into the episode, not quite.
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: But you know, we'll get there. So that means that
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: it's time for us to move on to thirty seconds
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: or less. We have a whole bunch in thirty seconds
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: or less, so we'll try and get this going at
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: a good clip. I'm out of my lineup because I'm
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: into my write ups. Am I first, you are first?
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: All right, here we go. We learned this week that
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: actor Rich Thompson will join the cast of the upcoming
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Green Lantern TV series Lanterns as the alien supervillain Sinestro
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: who wields the yellow Power of Fear. Thompson is a
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: very busy actor. He's mostly known for work in European
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: films and television. He'll be joining Kyle Chandler, who plays
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Hal Jordan, and Aaron Pierre, who plays John Stewart. Also,
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Nathan Filliam will guest star as Guy Gardner. Things are lighting.
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: Up, hi, I love that going from the light side
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: to the dark side. We are getting a Broadway production
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: of the eighties I think, yeah, eighty seven movie The
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Lost Boys. It's the vampire movie. It has had a
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: few little showings so far, mainly just industry insider showings.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: But it should be coming to Broadway's Palace Theater spring
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: of twenty twenty six.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: That's the problem with Broadway, all the damn vampires. Well,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: it's been a strange week for Doctor Strange fans. Early
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: in the week, Benedict cumber Batch dropped a bombshell that
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: Doctor Strange would not show up an Avengers Doomsday. Now
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: that was a surprise because the general rumor was that
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Strange would have played a huge role, a central role
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: in the earlier Avengers plot that still featured Kang the
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Conqueror but no worries because now Benny says he quote
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: unquote misspoke and that he actually is in the movie.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: It must be hard to keep track of all those
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: call sheets.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: All the call sheets in all the universes. More Broadway news,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Hadestown is getting a professional recording, a live recording. They're
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: bringing back the original cast for the main characters. It's
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: being filmed in the West Side, so they've canceled performances
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: for the days that they're filming it, from Friday, Very
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: twenty eight to Saturday March first, And we don't know
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: when they're going to actually show this or where they're
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: actually going to show this, but you know, eventually you
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: might be able to see the original cast in Hadestown
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: if you missed it on Broadway.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Sounds good. Well, while Strange might still show up in
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Avengers Doomsday, Chris Evans maintains he has happily retired from
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: the role of Steve Rogers, which I guess is why
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: everyone still expects him to come back, because he might
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: be stepping into the role of nomad that's a superhero.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: Steve Rogers assumed after some Captain America Shenanigan's happened in
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: the comic books. But Evans is firm on this matter.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: He says he stepped away from the part and he
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: is tot's not pulling in Andrew. I'm not in Spider
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Man Garfield move.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, He's just gonna go sit in some lasagna.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Don't know why I said he hates mondays.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I talk a lot about drop Out because I like
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: a lot of their goofy content and game shows, and
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I also like their done like their actual plays of
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: tabletop games. But I know a lot of my friends
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: don't like watching actual plays. Well, you're in luck because
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: their initial actual play, Fantasy High, is now teamed up
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: with web Tune to give you a comic version of
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: the first season that should be coming out in a
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: couple of months this spring.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: Nice. Well, we'll be talking about Netflix promoting new shows
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: and films very soon. But one bed I wanted to
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: mention comes as part of the promotion for the next
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: season of Stranger Things, Netflix has released a missing team
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: poster for Jane Hopper aka Number eleven, who is apparently
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: five foot four inches tall. At the base of the
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: poster is a phone number, So jot this down seven
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: six five three zero three twenty twenty calling it will
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: serve you up a recorded message from the Hawkins Police
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: Department that might hold some clues for the next season.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Uh, we're gonna talk more about what Netflix is bringing
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: up and coming soon. But one of the things that
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: we're not going to talk about then we're talking about
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: now is there doing a reboot of Little House on
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: the Prairie. Yeah, that's really all I got to say
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: about that. Eventually, you'll be getting your reboot of Little
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: House on the on the Prairie on Netflix.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, story so nice, you said it twice.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: It sounds it's you know, happy media.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: So sure. Mostly. Variety reports that Matthew Lillard will return
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: for Scream seven, which might surprise fans of the franchise
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: since spoiler alert, he is totally killed to death in
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: the very first film. He was one of two killers
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: in that first movie and got stabbed pretty darn good.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Plus he had a TV dropped on him which shocked him,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: presumably to the point of electrocution. But never mind that
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: he's gonna be in Scream seven. Maybe he's in a flashback,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: Maybe he survived, we'll have to see.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Maybe he's his character's long lost twin brother. I dude, Messiah,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: the third in the Dune Treequel Treequel trilogy has officially started,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: and by that I mean Villanovu is writing on working
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: on He's I cannot oh lord uh. The director is
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: writing the script right now. Yeah, they don't know when
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: they're going to get back to set, but one of
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: the actors thinks in the fault m.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: According to collider dot com, no relation. Nosferatu has hit
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: the top thirty grossing remakes ever. Specifically, at the time
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: of the article, it was at number twenty nine. It
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: was just ahead of the nineteen ninety one version of
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Father of the Bride and just behind the twenty sixteen
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: remake of The Magnificent Seven. Though when I Google it
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: seems like Nosparato might actually be ahead of the remake
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: of the remake of the Seventh Samurai. Well, whatever the
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: actual ranking, Great job Eggers for making such a successful remake,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: because those are pretty rare.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah uh uh. Big Knives Out is getting a third movie,
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: and Netflix has told us I'm sorry, I haven't had
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: enough coffee today. Netflix has told us the title now
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: Wake Up, dead Man Knives Out Mystery, and we've gotten
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: a first look at it in which Daniel Craig looks
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: a little shitty. He's got some long hair. I don't
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: know if I like that look for him, but I'm
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: sure it'll fit right into this story.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I haven't actually looked at that yet, so that's
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: on my list of things to do after we record.
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Well, media mega corporation Comcast plans to spin off a
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: quote freestanding, strong collection of businesses with lots of cash
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: flow generation capability for many years to come, good market
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: position and great focus end quote. That's according to Deadline,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: So how this will actually take shape hasn't really been
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: shared yet. It will apparently consist mainly of most of
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: NBC universal cable networks, but the streaming and theme parks
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: sides would still stick with the Comcast part of the
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: company itself, which is clear as mud.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: Last story, I think, yes, last story. Okay, BBC is
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: teamed up with Children in Need, which is a chared
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: to raise money, and they're doing so by auctioning off
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: a bunch of old doctor who prompts in costumes and
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: things like that. So you can get a tartis if
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: you have enough money, you can get many of the
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: doctor's outfits or Donna Noble's bride dress or a dollk
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. The auction goes between February eleventh and
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: the twenty fifth, and we will link the Gismoto article,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: which then links to where you can find out the
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: details about the auction in our show notes, just in
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: case anybody has come across a huge inheritance that is
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: burning a hole in their pocket and they're a doctor
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: who fan nice.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, that's all of thirty seconds or less,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: and that was a ton of stuff. So we've got
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: lots of other stories to talk about because a whole
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: bunch of stuff is going down. And at the top
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: of our lineup, I put in a thing about how
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: you know it's that time of year again when the
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: superb Owl will take over televisions. It's gonna happen on
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: February ninth, So the Big Game, as they say, and
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: traditionally one of the big things about the Big Game
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: is that you get a whole bunch of very expensive commercials.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Sometimes they are very creative or entertaining, sometimes they are lame.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Sometimes the ones that I find to be the most
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: entertaining are the ones that critics find to be the
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: most lame, which maybe just says that I have a
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: really corny sense of humor. But often there are film
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: trailers that are part of that lineup of commercials. Doing that,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: like adding a commercial into the Super Bowl, is expensive,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: like eight million dollars for a thirty second, So for
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: that reason, there actually appear to be fewer companies putting
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: out trailers this year than usual. I watched a video
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: in which the host was talking about the stuff that
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: has been discussed so far. So for example, Warner Brothers
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: apparently is not putting any movie trailers in the actual
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: game itself. They are planning on having a trailer for
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Superman that will play during the Puppy Bowl, Yeah, which
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: presumably would be very Crypto focused. That's what would make sense,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Crypto being Superman's super dog, That's my guess. But that's
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: all I've heard about that. The host said that you
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: shouldn't expect to see any trailers for movies like the
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: Minecraft movie or Final Destination, Final Destination, Bloodline, or Centers,
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: which actually it's really interesting, but that one's probably not
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: going to play either. He also said that Netflix, Amazon,
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: and Lionsgate also don't have any plans to air any
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: trailers during the game. Sony is unknown, but it would
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: be kind of surprising if they did. If Sony does
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: do it, then they might be showing off a trailer
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: for Karate Kid Legends, which I would love, or twenty
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: eight years later. A long shot would be their reboot
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: of I Know What You Did Last Summer. There's a
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: good chance there's not enough footage shot to put together
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: even maybe just a teaser, but that seems like a
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: long shot. The studios that are confirmed to have some
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: sort of trailers in the game include Paramount Pictures. So
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: the guess is that the Smurf movie will have a
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: trailer in there.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Which do you have We talked about that before that
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: totally if it was on our radar, it has slipped
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: to my mind in time.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Probably not. I mean, I know that Rihanna is in
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: this one.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: I know that it's a time traveling musical.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: I've heard that too other Paramount Pictures. Other Paramount Pictures
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: movies that might get a trailer shown during the game
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: include Novacane, Mission Impossible, The Final Reckoning. If that happens,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: it might be a big spectacle type thing that happens
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: in the stadium, because that's kind of Tom Cruise's style
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: at this point. Then you've got Universal, which might include
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: like how to Train Your Dragon Megan two point zero
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: is a good bet, possibly something about Jurassic World Rebirth.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: That's a possibility, and then you have Disney. So with Disney,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: there are three trailers that the host mentioned, and he
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: said that he had heard only two are going to
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: be shown during the game, but he didn't know which
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: two of the three. So the three include Captain America
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: Brave New World, which is possible, but that comes out
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: like Valentine's Day, so it's it's almost here already.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Thunder can't imagine they'd spend money on that at this point.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: That was kind of his point too, But it could
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: just be that they're trying really hard to get that
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: needle to move, because last the last projected box office
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: based upon pre sales is around ninety million, and I'm
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: sure Disney would love to see that number go up.
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Thunderbolts was another possibility. I think that's pretty likely, and
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: then the third one, which is possible, would be Fantastic four.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: It feels like a perfect time to intro.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: It, possibly, as the host pointed out, and I tend
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: to agree like Disney typically is a little like they
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: like to they like to have more control over events
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: where they're showing off big tent pole stuff, So it's
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: like more often at a Disney event than at like
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: a big broad thing like the Game. So we'll see.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: But others that we might see include l e O,
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: the Pixar film that you know we've seen a couple
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: of short trailers for, and the Lilo and Stitch live
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: action movie.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: I want to see trailers for both of those. I usually,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: you know, our listeners know that I usually watch the
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: superb Owl and then all of the commercials and stuff.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: This year, I won't be watching it because i won't
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: be busy doing other things, so I'm gonna have to
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: scrounge up all of the commercials after myself.
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: I usually just go through, like I'll find an article
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: that someone wrote where they they divide up the good,
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: the bad, and the ugly, and then I'll just decide
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: which ones I want to watch.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but their opinions sometimes don't reflect the actuality of
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: the event.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Sure, but I mean, like I'll still use them just
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: to learn what the commercial was, right, Like if it's
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: a commercial for a product that I don't like, or
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: a company that I don't like. I'm like, you know what,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: I don't care how good your commercial is. I'm skipping
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: that one.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hope we get a fantastic four.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I understand we may not, but I hope we do.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: I really really want the Lilo and Stitch trailer.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we've only seen little little hints mostly of what
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: Stitch looks like, and nothing of like what the other
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: aliens look like, and it would be kind of fun
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: to see what those designs are. And yeah, I'm hoping
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: we get something like that too. At the moment, I'm
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: mostly just kind of amused by the concept of a
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: live action Lelo and Stitch. I don't have any real
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: desire to see it because I think the cartoon itself
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: is pretty perfect.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: So it is. The cartoon is really good. I've only
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: watched it like one and a half time, so I
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: think ever, But yeah, I like stitches design a lot,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: and I think it fits in well with the world.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: I've said before, it's an imaginary creature, so it doesn't
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: have to look exactly like in a lion or a
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: war hoog or Dalmatian. But but the other aliens could
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: break it, you know, if they look goofy or they
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: don't interact with the real world.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Well yeah, Well on top of that, we got a
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: video that shows off some of the you know, hintset,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: some of the stuff that's coming out on Netflix this year,
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: and that was that was kind of cool. I mean,
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: obviously Netflix has launched off its promotion for all the
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: original content that it's producing or has licensed for twenty
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: twenty five.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I honestly, I think it's their most effective
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: to doom trailer to date. It starts with a woman
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: who is bored in a work meeting and puts Netflix
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: on her phone and doesn't have it on silent, and
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: everybody looks at her, and then she gets pulled into
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: the world of all the nets flicks things that are happening.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: But it starts off with stranger things and her getting
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: smacked through a wall by a Demi Gorgon and landing
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: in squid games, and I'm like, I don't want to
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: live in this world. Yeah, that's not for me. But
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: they also they also talk about a bunch of or
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: they also show a bunch of properties that I didn't
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: know were happening, or I have missed like Isaac Oscar,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: Isaac and Frankenstein. We're getting trolls to troll too, Alison,
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Borderland is when I missed that happened. But it's another
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: dystopian survival game thing.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. At the end of the Netflix video that you
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: were mentioning earlier, there's like a list of projects that
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: start scrolling and then it just picks up speed faster
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: and faster. So it also becomes one of those things
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: where you need to put it on point two five
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: speed to have a chance to even read like half
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: of the things that are on there. It's a pretty
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: impressive list, at least as far as quantity goes quality.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: That's something we'll have to find out that's these things launch.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it does confirm that we'll be getting another season
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: of Samman, which was up in the air considering all
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: of the recent news about the author.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: It.
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: Also they don't mention anything about Bridgerton or One Piece
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: or Outer Banks, which means that those probably won't be
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: coming back until twenty twenty six.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, one thing we know that is on the
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: way is you know, he's a bird, He's a plane,
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: He's Superman. We got a new TV spot for Superman.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: I actually saw this when I was visiting my sister
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: and her family. That happened to come on television. I
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: was like, Oh, that's a new spot, and then next
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: thing I know, it's on our lineup.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you get to see a little bit more of
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Lex Luthor and some robots and.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Uh miss Teskmalker.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it. I think it looks good. I
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: know some people, I know the dog threw some people off.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: I think this looks Everything that I've seen so far
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: from the Superman movie brings me hope, and so I
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: am hopeful for the movie. So forgot Gardner's bullcut, because.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: I mean that's just his comic accurate. Yeah, I think
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: I think the spot looks looks pretty good. It didn't
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: have a whole lot of stuff that we hadn't seen before,
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: apart from like getting a decent look at Lex Luthor,
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: who appears to be up in the Arctic Circle, presumably
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: looking for the fortress of Solitude, which I'm guessing is
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: gets getting a little less solitude. Uh yeah, it's you know,
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: it's it looks like it looks like it's a good
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: I'm actually also jazz that James Gunn said he's not
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: interested in rehashing the origin story for the billion of
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: time because like we've seen that so many different times.
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: And I think that's fine as long as you do
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: establish what Clark's relationship is with his parents and how
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: important they are to his worldview. I think that, like,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: as long as I feel comfortable that that is maintained,
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: I'll feel a lot better than I did with the
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: Zack Snyder films.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, and you can do that because
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: like if you look at Spider Man Homecoming, they didn't
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: rehash Uncle Ben.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't even know if there was an Uncle Ben.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you find it later. But but so you can
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: definitely do that. You can you can bring in points
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: of history without it being the pearls breaking on the
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: ground of Batman's mother getting killed. Yeah, but I you know,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: I think it looks good. I will say there are
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: a couple of the like CGI scenes when Superman is
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: flying where I'm like, did they put Nathan Fillion's face
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: on this? Poor actor.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: James Gunn has said explicitly that there's no CGI on
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: that face. It's that it's a wide angle lens with
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: a shallow depth of field, you know what for it
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: he Just just think of how Adam Scott's face changes
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: whenever he's in the elevator in Severance. It's that, it's
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: that kind of thing. Just imagine how much your face
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: would Just imagine how much your face would change if
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: a face hugger grabbed onto it. Because we got a
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: little teaser, that's my segue for the teaser for the
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Alien Earth television show. Teaser really just shows So let
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: me ask you. Maybe I don't know if you even
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: remember this, but in the teaser, it shows like an
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: alien face hugger that's that's running rampant inside a spaceship
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: that's on a collision course for Earth. And it sounded
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: to me like it with Sigourney Weaver's voice saying containment breach,
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: like it was obviously a prerecorded warning type thing, but
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: sounded like her.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: It did a little bit. Yeah, it was so brief
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: though I couldn't I couldn't quite tell. I was more
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: distracted by the fact that I thought, when they first
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: started talking about this show, which is on FX and
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: who will be on FX and Hulu, that it was
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: going to be focusing less on established Xenomorphsinato space and
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: more on like the Wayland Tutani Corporation, but maybe I'm misremembering.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: Well, then we have a teaser where it alien clearly
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: an alien, even if it's not a face hugger, because it,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, everything's moving super fast, so it's it's hard
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: to really get a good look at the alien design,
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: I guess, unless you're doing that pause, frame by frame thing.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: I didn't for this one. I should have.
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's while.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: I do that real quick.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: No, We've got so much more to get through. Yeah,
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know. I look forward to hearing
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: more about this TV series. Like the alien movies, I
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: go half and half like some of the half of
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: them I really like. In the other half I don't.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, same. I want to like it. I
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: want to like it. I didn't watch Romulus, so I
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: I haven't heard good things, which is a shame because
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: when the trailers came out, we both thought, like, whoa,
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: this looks like super intense, like it's getting back to
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: its horror roots, Like this is definitely not a science
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: fiction action movie. This is a horror movie. But all
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: the all the reviews I saw were pretty mid to negative.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Well, Prometheus and Covenant were also very gruesome horror movies.
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: They were so grucome that my friend, who loves horror
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: movies actually was totally on board with me turning off
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: when I tried to start to watch Covenant. But maybe
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: maybe they've watched it since, but at the time they
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: were like, yep, this is nope. But and they like
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: the Saw movies, so that's something. But uh, yeah, I
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: I think just the first two movies are so strong,
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: and they do a lot with a little that I think.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: I think it was just They're like a perfect two
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: parter and I don't know if I need more, but
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: I'm interested in Wail and Utani and they're interactions with it.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: My new, my new completely conspiracy theory is that alien
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: because it's crash landing on Earth, it wasn't prepared, it
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: doesn't have the proper safeguards in place, it gets smushed,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: it becomes et, and we find out it's actually the
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: first night Xenamore.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: No. I thought it was just gonna end up being
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: the beginning of the live action Lee Low and Stitch movie.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: That would also be pretty funny.
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: Next up, we have a trailer for a fantasy slash
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: kind of horror movie called a Knight's War, or as
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: I call it. We couldn't get the rights to the
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: name Dark Souls, but we're gonna make a movie about
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: it anyway.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw this and I didn't add it, and
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: then Jonathan did. I've never played Dark Souls, so I'm
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: not super familiar with it. Yeah, go ahead, Sorry, you
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: go ahead, No, you go ahead.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: All I was gonna say is that it has some
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: elements that are similar to Dark Soul's games. So in
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: Dark Souls games, you typically play a character who collects
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: souls as you defeat enemies, and you light bonfires, and
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: the bonfires are like safe points, So if you get killed,
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: you resurrect at one of these save points and you
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: lose the souls that you've collected. And in the movie trailer,
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: there's a thing up where one of the there's a
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: character who says to the main character, like, if you die,
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: you'll come back to life, so you can keep trying
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: to complete your quest or whatever. And it has the
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: same sort of visual aesthetic, you know, very dark and
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: grimy kind of fantasy, not your bright, shiny fantasy that
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: reminds me of a from software game.
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which reminds me I meant to add the trailer
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: for the fantasy period piece that was like bits off
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: the Keats or the Yates poem or something like that
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: that I shared.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the one about children being
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: lured away by fairies.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a movie about that too.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: It also looks good. But yeah, that one looks good.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: A night's where I don't think looks good.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: No, it feel very you know how we were talking
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: about all of the movies that Miila Jovovic Jeovivic's husband did.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: It feels like that, like the production quality looks pretty good,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: but it feels very melodramatic.
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, it looks to me like it would be
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: very hard to connect with any of the characters that
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: are shown in the trailer. And that's a problem if
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: you want people to feel like your narrative resonates. So
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: we'll see I mean it as a trailer. It could
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: be that I'm making a completely unfair judgment on something
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: based upon a very tiny sliver of the overall project.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and the other movie I was talking about, I'll
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: let we won't talk about it because I haven't rewatched
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: the trailer, but it's called The Stolen Child. I'll add
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: it to our show notes in case anybody wants to
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: check it out, because it looks beautiful as I'll get out.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that one's the one that's based off the Yates
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: poem where it's about fairies. Well, the poem is about
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: how fairies were children away, So presumably that's what the
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: I mean with the title like that. Presumably it's the
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: same thing that the movie's about. Yeah. And then, on
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: a related note, on a film that seems like it's
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: like could easily bridge the gap between A Knight's War
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: and The Stolen Child, we have Robo Force, the animated series.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: I mean clearly, clearly.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: It's it's like, it's like a kid, It's like a
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: Connecticut Yankee and King Arthur's Court, but with robots.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: No, it's a it's an animated series Robo Force, and
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: Robo Force in question is made up of a bunch
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: of robots that are clearly like a few generations older
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: than current technology, but then they are the ones called
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: upon to uh fight off a threat.
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting because it looks it doesn't look like
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: it's made for kids. Watching the trailer. It doesn't look
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: like it's completely made for kids, although I'm sure kids
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: would enjoy it, but it's also not it's a little
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: bit tamer that I'm used to adult cartoons being nowadays.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: That's not a problem. It just was interesting to me.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like if this had been made by the people
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: by the team behind Archer, for example, you would expect
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: a lot more crude humor relating to the robots, and
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: there really isn't any of that. It's much more goofy silly,
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: and it's it's not goofy silly to the point where
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh, this is going to be a zany
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: comedy where they're just making lots of jokes all the
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: way through. It's just jokes were happening in the trailer.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: But I don't know, it wasn't coming across to me
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: like it was primarily a comedy. It came across more
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: like it's a primarily a action action adventure series with.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: A little bit of comedy. It like maybe they weren't
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: quite sure where they wanted to land on that, But
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm interested to see how it goes. You know,
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: to be is getting a lot more stuff and a
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: lot more original stuff. I was in a film that's
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: on toob so I'm interested in this.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, I like the character design and stuff.
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: I'm curious to see it. Does it feel like it
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: is firmly enough in one camp versus the other for
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: it to be, you know, an enjoyable project. If it's
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: one of those things where it's like it can't make
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: up its mind what sort of genre it's in, and
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: it doesn't do enough to marry the different genres together,
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: that I probably won't stick with it. But if they
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: nail it, that that'd be fun. It's hard to tell
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: from the trailer. Like I didn't. I wasn't totally sold
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: by the trailer, but I was at least intrigued.
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, me too, me too. Once next we've got something
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: that I saw and I didn't add to our lineup
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: because I was like, no, this is just going to
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: be I don't I don't want to become like just
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: a horror podcast. But there's so much of it. Jonathan
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: pointed out in our pre in our pre show gaming
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: session like game plan session, that maybe I was right
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: or my friend was right that we're getting a lot
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: more horror this year. It certainly feels like it.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So in this case, the horror movie trailer that
• 56:29
  Speaker 2: you saw but did not want to add to the
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: lineup and then I did it anyway, is for a
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: movie called Bloat.
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: Yes, and it should be on our lineup because it
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: has to deal with.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: Uh folklore, Yeah, Japanese folklore, so specifically a type of
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: spirit that lives in streams and ponds and such. So
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: the there's there's two things to talk about with this trailer.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: I think one is that there's this folklore aspect where
• 57:02
  Speaker 2: in the course of the story a young boy appears
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: to be possessed by one of these water spirits, and
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: so there's a pressing need to try and rescue the boy,
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: to purge the spirit from the boy and make sure
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: the boy doesn't die. The other part is that it's
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: unconventional as far as your film experience goes. It's kind
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: of in that found footage category or something like unfriended,
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: where all the different sources of video are from things
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: like cell phones and laptops and zoom calls and that
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: kind of thing, which frankly makes me less interested in
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: it interesting.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: I I think sometimes found footage, like obviously it's a
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: Blair Witch project kind of paved the way for it,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I think sometimes it can can be done
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: really well.
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: I there are.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: You know, it's hard because since I'm an actor, sometimes
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: I know about stuff and I don't always know what
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: I can talk about. So I'm going to skip that.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: But I'm going to say sometimes found footage is really
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: cool and compelling, and sometimes it's annoying. And I think
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: that it's nice that they're bringing all of this social
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: media into it. I don't think they'd do it poorly.
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: But like, I've never been a fan of like paranormal
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: activities where it's all just watching the security camera in
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: one room.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I like the first Paranormal Activity movie because it
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: was something different, but I found that as the franchise
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: went on, I found it less interesting over time. It's
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: also one of the problems of like horror that's based
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: on mystery, in that the more of the mystery you reveal,
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: the more heavily you need to lean on your narrative,
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: and if your narrative is not very strong, that it's
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: not going to support the franchise anymore. In this case,
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: there is a reason for it to be like all
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: this various forms of media, and it's that the father
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: in this case, he's in the military and he is
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: not stationed in the same place where his family is,
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: and so he's trying to monitor the situation and to
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: help and to take care of his kid the best
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: way he can when he's not actually there. So all
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: the interactions have to be through like cell phones and
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: zoom calls and all that kind of stuff, and that's
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: how it plays out, at least in the trailer. Like,
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: I don't think there was a single bit in the
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: trailer where it was presented as a normal film shot.
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: I think they were all at least presented as though
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: they were shot on a phone or a laptop. They
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: might they probably weren't, but that's how it's portrayed.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: So I guessess someone who has had to film on
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: a zoom call before. Yeah probably not.
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because you usually and get as good a
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: quality of that. But the uh, I don't know. Like
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: I go back and forth on this. I think the
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: biggest issue I have with most found footage films is
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: that it's really hard to get me to forget, Like, like,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: if it's found footage, I'm sitting there thinking like, okay,
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: but why would you be filming this bit, right, Like,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: if it's just people chatting in a hallway and it's
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: not part like usually it's like a documentary group or something,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: right that they're trying to capture something. But if it's
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: just a mundane conversation in a hallway, I'd be like,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: you would never shoot this. That's too much work to
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: set up the cameras and the sound and all that.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, if it was like a security camera, like
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: just constant, like twenty four hour surveillance, right, maybe sure.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I'm just talking about like specific like, oh,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: what was the one where it was essentially the Jim
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: Jones incident? It was ty West. It was one of
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: his movies and I can't remember what the name of
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: it is now, but it was so years ago with
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Tye West did this film and the guy who played
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: essentially the Jim Jones like cult leader was phenomenal in it.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: But I could not get over the fact that I
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: was watching bits for I was like, yeah, but you
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: would never have the camera on to even capture this
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: little bit here, because you'd want to save you know,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: the digital space and the batteries and everything for when
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: you're actually shooting your documentary as opposed to when you're
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: just chatting about how weird stuff is, you know, like
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: it's not present the sacrament. Thank you. Yeah, I'm not
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: saying that that's how Bloat's going to come across. Bloat
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: might might marry marry the format with the story really well, Uh,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: the trailer did not win me over, But it doesn't
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: mean that it's a bad movie.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: The trailer I made it think like it might be
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: a little scary for me. Knowing that it's like it's
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: it deals with Jemney s folklore does make me much
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: more interested in it. And another thing that makes it
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: a little geeky is the main The dad in the
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: movie is played by Ben McKenzie, who was Jim Gordon
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: on Gotham.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: I know I recognized him, but I could not put
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: my finger on where it was from.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: Same and I was like, no, I know, I know
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: him from somewhere. I've never watched the OC, what is it?
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't look into his IMDb, so I didn't. Yeah,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 2: but now that totally makes sense. Next up, we got
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: another horror movie. This one's like a home invasion thriller
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: horror movie. It's called Everyone is Going To die.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this one I debate. I like, I don't know
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: if it belongs in our lineup. But Jonathan thinks that
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: horror is geeky in and of itself, even if it
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: doesn't have geeky or supernatural elements in the horror story.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: So he lets me do that with action movies.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: I'll let it do it.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: I'll let him do it with horror movies.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think I think that, you know, there
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: are full conventions dedicated to horror, just like there are
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: for science fiction and fantasy. So to me, that shows
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: that there's like that geeky like community of fandom. So
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: for me, horror kind of falls into that. Now there
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: are like I can see where some people would say,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, supernatural horror I get, But silence of the
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: Lambs horror, I don't think merits it like to me,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: the lines are more blurred. But I totally understand people
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: who are like, oh no, the ghosts and demons and
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: boogey monsters. That one I totally understand.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: And that's also because you're a horror fan too, so
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: it is something you are geeky about in general.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so this one, everything everyone is going to die.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: If you've seen Funny Games and or The Strangers. You've
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: probably seen this movie because when I saw like the
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: previous for The Strangers, the first thing I thought was, Oh,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: this looks like a less intelligent version of Funny Games.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: Funny Games is a film that's weird because not only
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: is it about a home invasion where these two guys
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: break into this this this couple's home and then start
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: to torture them for their own amusement, they also break
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: the fourth wall and they address the audience, and they
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: essentially imply that the audience is complicit in the terrible
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: things that are happening because this movie was made for
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: the audience's entertainment. It's a really this is kind of spoilery,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: I guess if you haven't seen it, But that movie's
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: been out forever. So The Strangers is a much more
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: straightforward home invasion story. This looks like it's somewhere in
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: between maybe, but yeah, it's another one where like you've
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: got people living a seemingly quiet, unremarkable day and then
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 2: masked strangers break into their home and then calmly explain
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: they're going to probably kill everybody there. And I guess
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: the mystery is why and does anyone make get out?
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the trailer does say like the does make it
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: seem like it might be similar to Funny Games, because
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: which I haven't watched, just based off your description, because
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: they're like, it's poignant and there's a conversation to be
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: had about it, so it feels like there will be
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: some message there. It's not just horror for horror sake.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: Well, and the fact that it's titled everyone is going
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: to Die, if we take that on it's on the surface,
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: then we just know no one makes it out. The
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: killers don't make it out, the victims don't make it out.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: Everyone is going to.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: Die, yeah, but we don't know if everyone's going to
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: die in the next horror movie. Like I said, I
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: promise we are not a soul horror podcast. We will
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: find other things to talk about as well. But in
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: the next trailer we have, it's for a movie called Locked,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: starring Bill scars Guard and Anthony Hopkins.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: And for once, Bill's scars Guards not the monster. I mean,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: he's not a good guy, but he's not the bad guy.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: He's the victim.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: He's the guess that's the protagonist of his story.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 2: Is the same way as Carrie Elwiz is in Uh, Saul.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: He's he's a He's a guy who has made some
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: bad choices and he's being punished for them by someone
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: with a psychotic sense of justice in this case Anthony Hopkins,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: also against type. I mean, we've never seen Anthony Hopkins
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: play a murderous psychopath, have we? Never?
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: Have we never?
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: What? I don't remember that movie.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: One of the horror movies I actually like. I haven't
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: watched The Red Dragon, I haven't watched Hannibal, but I
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: did watch Silence of the Lambs and it was good.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: I was I was being facetious.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, back when, back when I could handle that kind
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: of a storyline. I can't anymore.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: But yeah, so uh. The trailer shows Bill Scar's guard.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: He's like, he's like a thief. He pounces on opportunities
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: where he checks doors of vehicles to see if they're
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: unlocked and then tries to steal stuff from them.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: Which is so common I've occasionally. My complex doesn't have
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: an outlet, so we don't get a lot of crime,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: but whenever we do, it's someone who's like, they just
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: opened my car door because it was unlocked and took
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: what was in out opportunistic.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: So yeah, so in this case, he tries it for
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: a few different vehicles, and one of them is this
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: really fancy looking suv and he gets inside of it
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: and then he is locked inside of it, and then
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: the soothing voice of a psychotic Anthony Hopkins comes on
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: over the speaker system and explains that he is now
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: going to be punished for his behaviors. And yeah, it's
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: just about how the Bill scars Guard's character is then
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: punished and tortured and while trying to escape this vehicle
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: that has been reinforced to an extent that any seemingly
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: useful way of getting out has been countered already.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, I don't I don't know if this fits
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: into the line up outside of the fact that it's
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: a horror movie, and horror is a geek genre all
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: of its own. But you know, you have to click
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: on it when you see that it's Bill scars Guard
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: because he's done so many things that are more geeky.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, and Anthony Hopkins too, I would argue, But yes.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: Anthony Hopkins as well, and cars as well too. If
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: you look at Christine, which I've never watched, but.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: Or or the film Cars from Pixar.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah scared, Yeah, nope, my brain doesn't want to go there.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: So yeah, interesting. I don't know if I'll watch it,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: But if you watch either of those two movies, you'll
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: have to let me know how they go.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: I will. What about Sinners? Would you consider watching this one?
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: It's a vampire movie?
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Is it a vampire movie?
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: It's a vampire movie.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: It's not a cannibal movie.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, I guess depends on your view of vampires versus.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: Cannibals, because when I watched, there have been a couple
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: Centers has released a couple of trailers in the past
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks. In the first one I watched, or
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: one of the teasers I watched, had like three of
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: the bad guys come up to a door at a
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: barn concert essentially and a barn party, and it looked
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: like they were not drinking blood but rather just eating
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: they It sounded like they were going to just straight
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: up consume these people. And I can handle vampires, but
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: I can't handle cannibalism. It's a weird line.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 2: I know. Well from what I understand, it's not like
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: so it's not firmly in any one specific category. It's
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: kind of another one of those movies that bridges a
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: few different genres, because yes, there are vampires, and vampires
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: are creatures that are part of this movie, but it's
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: also about the power power of music, like the seemingly
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: mystical power of music. You think about things like the
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: legends of the musician who sells their soul to the
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: devil in order to play better at the crossroads, right,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: Like it seems to feel like yeah, yeah, Like I
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: think there's a lot of that, and then there's like,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: you know, the the things like organized crime or just
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: criminals in general. The main characters are twin brothers, both
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: played by Michael B. Jordan, and you get the feeling
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: like they're both kind of involved in perhaps less than
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: legal activities. You know, it's a story of like Black
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: America in early twentieth century. There's a lot of stuff
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: going on that makes it look really interesting to me.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it does look very interesting to me. It gives
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: me like, I like the story, I like I like
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: the the the music, and like the devil went down
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: to Georgia stuff, and I like, I like, uh, looking
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: at black history because it gives me very like Lovecraft
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: Country vibes. It was literally just because I thought that
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: the bad guys were cannibals that I was like, No,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: it also has the bit I like Michael B.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: Jordan.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: I like a lot of stuff Ryan Coogler has done.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: Both Creed and Black Panther are amazing and so I
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: and I like Hailee Steinfeld who is also in it.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: And uhh knew when me uh Mausaku who was in it.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: She was also in Loki and Lovecraft Country. So yes,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: Initially I was very very drawn to this movie and
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: I want to see it. I was just worried that
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be like people chewing off arms.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's more like chewing on necks and
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: or chests in order to get to that sweet sweet
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: blood juice.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I I I don't. It's one of those
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: ones that like, I want to support it in the
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: theater if it's going to theaters, but I don't know
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: if I could handle it in a theater.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: That's fair. I think that's fair. I think it looks
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: like it looks like it's incredibly well made from a
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: technical perspective, like the cinematography, the lighting, the costumes, all
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: of that stuff looks like they really did a great job. Like,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: if this doesn't get some nominations for technical awards, I'll
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: be surprised because it just looks like it's people at
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: the top of their craft who have worked on this.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know if the film itself is going to
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 2: measure up to all the technical work. I hope it does.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 2: It certainly has me interested. It's one of those where
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: I could see myself going to see this.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: If you go to see it, let me know, maybe
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: I'll come with you and I just will cover my
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: eyes during the scary parts, and if I stand up
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: and scream in the middle of the theater, you can't
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: say you were warned. Yeah, yeah, you don't have to
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: invite me.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: But I would invite you in a heartbeat, because I
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 2: don't like seeing movies by myself, and I don't know
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: who else would go with me to see it.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I am more interested in Sinners than I
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: am in the next movie we're going to talk about,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: called Ash, despite the fact that Aaron Paul is in
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: it and I think he's phenomenal.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a This is the one that made
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: me think of Dead Space, right because I said that
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: A Knight's War made me think of Dark Souls, and
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: Ash made me think of Dead Space. It's a science
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 2: fiction horror and the main character wakes up and has
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: at least partial amnesia and does not really remember who
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: she is or where she is, but has little flashes
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: of moments where like quick snippets of memories flash into
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 2: her mind and there appear to be you know, monstrous
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  Speaker 2: things around and she doesn't know who she can trust,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: and she doesn't like it appears that her crew has
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: been killed off. But she encounters someone and you know,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: is that someone that she could trust or is that
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: someone who's a danger? You know, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: open questions from this trailer. I think it's just to
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  Speaker 2: try and give you a sense of the vibe of
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: the movie. But yeah, I saw this. I've never played
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  Speaker 2: Dead Space, but it just makes me think of that
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: video game series from the stuff I've seen.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I've never played Dead Space. I have watched
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: My husband played Dead Space and he eventually had to
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: give it up. So he likes some like scary video games,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: like Eternal Darkness, which is very good because it messes
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: with you as a player. But yeah, dead Space is
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: very bleak. This looks doesn't quite look as bleak as
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: dead Space to me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe not. I don't know. I think it's the
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 2: whole amnesia thing. Also that's giving me video game vibes
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: because how many games have you played or watched where
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: at the beginning you're playing a character who has no
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: memory of who they are or where they came from.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: And I guess the choice for that is so that you,
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: as the player can feel more like you're inhabiting this character,
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: as opposed to if the character's fully defined and they're
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: different from you, you're not going to feel that connection,
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: I'm guessing. But it's weird to see it in a movie.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. It is a little weird.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: There was another video game that made its rounds recently
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: on social media called like Mouthwash or something like that
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: that looked so disturbing and upsetting but also had to
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: Kenny deal with amnesia and very few left alive on
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: a spaceship. Popular Popular troupe.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And we'll actually talk a little bit more
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  Speaker 2: about video games in just a second, but we got
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  Speaker 2: a couple couple more movie and series trailers to talk about.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: And first up is a trailer for almost a Cohen
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: Brothers esque kind of crime caper. It looks like called
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 2: Riff Raff with Bill Murray in it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Bill Murray, Jennifer Coolidge, Pete Davidson. And then who
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: is the other guy, the other father in it?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I'd have to look it up. I just watched
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: it before.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: We it's Ed Harris.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: Harris, yes, yes, yes, Ed Harris, yes, famous actor, great actor. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And Lewis Pullman, who I'm guessing is Bill Pullman's son,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: because you can't have the same name as somebody if
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: un Yeah, I mean it again. This one. I don't
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: know if it falls into the geek category other than
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: the fact that it looks vaguely Cohen Brothers. Y. It
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: looks like it's two like gangster families that end up
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: staying at somebody's cabin in the woods and they got
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: beef and they're gonna kill each other. I don't know.
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to tell. Yeah, it's really hard to
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: say what's actually going on. Like the bits they showed
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 2: were more like to give you an idea of characters
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: as opposed to what the story is. So, for example,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: Bill Murray's character is a cantankerous mobster type who sometimes
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: makes somewhat rash decisions as it turns out, which he
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: will be first to admit in his very nonplus, you know,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: deadpan kind of way. And you know, I have a
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: Gabrielle Union is in there. She appears to be just
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: like someone who's caught in the middle of all this craziness. Like,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: I thought that the trailer had a lot of funny
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: little moments in it, even though I couldn't really get
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: a handle on what the story is supposed to be.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: Jennifer Coolidge is very funny and extremely let's say, i'll
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: use the beetle juice word. She's anxious, if you know
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: what I mean.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, which is not completely against type, but it
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: does feel like a different character than I normally see
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: her play.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, she doesn't. She doesn't come across as being totally
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: like clueless or you know, ditsie.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm gonna Lewis Pullman is Bill Pullman's son.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: I am ashamed that I don't know this because he
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: is making rounds in the geekho sphere. Jonathan. He was
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: in Salem, the New Salem's Lot. He's going to be
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: in Thunderbolts. He was in bad Times at El Royal
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: Lessons in Chemistry, so like a bunch of geeky stuff.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: I haven't watched most.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: Of it, but yeah, yeah, I am unfamiliar with his
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 2: work as well. So but this trailer, like I said,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: it looks I mean, it looks funny. It does have
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: that kind of Cohen Brothers weird like a lot of
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: weird characters being thrown together sort of thing. I don't
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: think it feels quite as absurd as your typical Cohen
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: Brothers movie, does. I mean, there's some Coen Brothers movies
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: that aren't absurd at all, that are just, you know,
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: kind of kind of brutal, like No Country for Old
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: Men is not really that absurd, or their remake of
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: True Grit, for example, but a lot of their films
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 2: I just kind of associate with almost like a fairy
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: tale ish feel to it. This doesn't quite have that.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: It does have the odd characters though, yeah.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Speaking of odd characters, Shonda Rhimes is taking a
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: run at Rian Johnson's success with Knives Out by giving
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: us a mystery drama TV series called The Residents Inside
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: the Private World of the White House, which that title
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: makes you go, why are you talking about this on LLENZ,
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: But when you watch the trailer, it feels like knives Out,
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: just with Uzu Aduba as the lead.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, uh, she's attending a function at the White House.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: Don't know why she's there or what the function is really,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 2: but apparently someone appears to have been murdered and she
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 2: starts to look into it. And it's got a lot
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 2: of other like notable actors, a lot of actors who
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: have made a name in comedy, like one of the
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: members of the State is in there.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: She and Carlo Esposito's in there too, and yeah.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: So there's there's a lot of big names in there,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: or names that are notable for their their hefty work.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: So this one also, I feel like it really did
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: have that knives Out kind of vibe where, yes, it's
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: about a murder, it's a murder mystery, but it's clearly
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: got a lot of comedy elements to it.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Ken Marino is a guy from the State,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: which Randall Park. Is it just a huge cast of
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: geeky people.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the residents looks uh looks fun like I will like,
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: I definitely want to see this because I feel like
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: it'll scratch that itch that I have for things like
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: Knives Out or poker Face.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm I also want to see it. And
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: I skipped over the trailer three times in looking for
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: things to talk about this week.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: I'm really glad. I finally looked, Yeah, well, we've got
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: a couple of video game stories to talk about, like
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: that aren't related to the movies we just mentioned. Ariel,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: you came across a couple of videos, one about a
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: game that I had not heard of yet, and one
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: that finally gave us more details about a game I've
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: been anticipating ever since I saw the teaser.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The first is a it is described by Bloody
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: Disgusting as Lovecraft meets a medical sim It's called Do
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: No Harm, and it's you're, yeah, you're this doctor who
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: has to see patients and treat them based on their maladies.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: But some of them might be old ones or deep
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: ones or Cathulian horrors.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's set in like the you know,
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: early twentieth century too. Like it's like or maybe even
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: late nineteenth century, based upon the outfits that you see
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 2: and like, so we're not talking about modern medicine. Here
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: we're talking about like someone out in the sticks who's
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 2: seeing to the residence of some like out of the
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: way town or village or something.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: You've got like four different glass jars of different colored fluids.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: So it might be even be like balancing humors. Who knows.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems to me like it reminds me of
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: a game like Papers Please, where you have someone come forward,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 2: you have to assess that person based upon the what
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 2: you are able to observe. You. Then you know, you
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: reference your material to see what is the proper treatment
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: on your diet based on your diagnosis, and so like you,
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: like Ariel was saying, you've got these four different colors
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: of liquid, my guess it will be something like, oh, okay,
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: well it needs to be two ccs of red and
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: one cca of blue and maybe one sec of yellow,
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 2: and then that cures this particular ailment. And so it's
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: something where you have to decide, oh, based upon what
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: I'm observing, it's most likely the patient has this particular
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: illness which has this particular treatment. But because there's also
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: this weird lovecrafty and element to the game, there may
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: be cases where you're faced with the decision of do
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: you help this person are they a person at all?
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: And that brings us back round to the title of
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: do no Harm, which of course is a central tenet
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: of medicine.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: I'm super interested in this game, super interested in this game.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: It looks cool.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I enjoyed. I was bad at papers Please,
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: but I really enjoyed it. So the other one we're
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: going to talk about is South of Midnight, which we've
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: talked about a couple of times. We got the story
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: trailer which shows us that the main character is looking
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: for her mom after they got hit by a hurricane
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: and her house got swept away.
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you don't remember the teaser for this ages
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: and ages ago, it has a very strong, like Louisiana
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: sense of place and that there appeared to be some
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: sort of weaving element of magic. We didn't really see
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: any weaving of magic in this particular trailer, but we
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 2: did see lots of magical critters. And yeah, like Aeriel
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: was saying, now we know that the young woman, the
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: protagonist of the video game that you play as, is
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: out to try and rescue her mother. They had just
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: had an argument. It's that classic trope of two people
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: have an argument, one of them leaves, and then immediately
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: some calamity befalls the other one, And so the person
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: who's left behind is filled with guilt and shame because
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: their last interaction was, you know, an argument, and they
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: really love the person who's been taken away, so now
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: they're extra motivated to go and rescue them. It just
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: so happens that this also is taking place in a
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: world that's filled with magic and mystical creatures, including alligators
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: that are the size of an island.
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and giant giant caffish. It looks like part of
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: her job in unweaving this unweaving this mystery is that
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: she might have to help some of these animals that
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: got contorted by Mattings.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it looks really interesting to me. I've been
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: saying that since I saw the teaser. Like the teaser
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: struck me as being really super cool.
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a great art style. It looks like
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: a a fun story. The music and it is wonderful
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: from what I've seen from the trailers. Yeah, I'm very
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: interested in this game too. I guess I gotta start
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: playing video games again.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this week i've heard of like four
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: different games, and I want to try all of them now,
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: So I'm like, I don't know where I'm gonna get
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: the time to do that.
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: There's like a split something. There's like a something hard
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: something of this romance of this seae, Like a bunch
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: of really interesting video games have come out this week.
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: I almost added them all, but our show is already
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: running very long.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so maybe we should wrap this up.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah we should, so, Jonathan.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: Uh huh, how do people reach you? Well, what you're
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: gonna do is you're gonna go and they're gonna watch
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: Scream eight. And I know they haven't even put out
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 2: Scream seven yet, but you're gonna have to go and
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: watch screenmate, because here's the crazy thing. It's gonna be
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: revealed about three quarters of the way through Scream eight
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: that the person who appears to be pulling the strings.
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: Though obviously this is a misdirect, you're never going to
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: find out three cords of the way through who the
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: killer is, but you're gonna be led to believe that
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 2: it's me, which is weird because I didn't even get
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: cast in that movie. And you're going to watch, as
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: I have seen after seen with other characters, and everyone
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: grows increasingly more suspicious of me until I run off
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: the side of the screen like I'm exiting screen stage
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 2: right and then house left. I come around the back
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 2: of the screen. I'm there in person, and I'm yelling
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: back Metropolis style at the screen behind me, and Nev
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: Campbell looks really confused, and she's gonna ask me a question.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: You're gonna have to wait your turn because I'm gonna
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: have to answer her first because otherwise the movie doesn't happen.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: And then after that you can ask me what your
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: question is.
• 1:27:57
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