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- 0:00Speaker 1: All right, let's head out to the Ramos Law Hotline
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- 0:05Speaker 1: We're joined by the man who just signed his player
- 0:09Speaker 1: to the richest contract in the history of the league.
- 0:10Speaker 2: It is Joe Sackick.
- 0:11Speaker 1: Joe, thank you for joining us.
- 0:12Speaker 2: How are you doing this morning?
- 0:14Speaker 3: I'm doing great. How about you guys?
- 0:15Speaker 4: Doing great. Hey, I sat at the back of the
- 0:17Speaker 4: room yesterday. You know me, I don't ask questions, but
- 0:20Speaker 4: I wanted to ask one, and I'll do it right now.
- 0:23Speaker 4: As far as you being an executive in this league,
- 0:26Speaker 4: have you ever had more of a no-brainer situation than
- 0:29Speaker 4: what you just went through with Cale McCarr and getting
- 0:31Speaker 4: this deal done?
- 0:35Speaker 3: No, I don't think. Well, yeah, when we had Nathan
- 0:38Speaker 3: came up a few years ago. They're equal, equal, yeah.
- 0:42Speaker 3: I mean, and those are the type of guys that
- 0:45Speaker 3: basically write their own ticket because they deserve it. No,
- 0:49Speaker 3: we are just really excited that Cale– I mean, we,
- 0:53Speaker 3: both sides, we are– never wavered off eight years. We
- 0:56Speaker 3: wanted the commitment. He won the commitment. And so it
- 0:59Speaker 3: did having that, uh, definitely helped, uh, help the process.
- 1:05Speaker 1: Uh, Joe, can you take me into the room for negotiations?
- 1:08Speaker 1: Was there a negotiation or is it, was it just
- 1:11Speaker 1: kind of like say the number and then I'll sign
- 1:13Speaker 1: the paper?
- 1:15Speaker 3: No, I mean, yeah, there's a, there's a negotiation, but, uh,
- 1:18Speaker 3: but when you have two sides that want to get
- 1:20Speaker 3: something done and are on the same page, uh, it's
- 1:24Speaker 3: going to get done. I mean, we've probably started mid-July
- 1:29Speaker 3: really focusing on it and you see the numbers come
- 1:32Speaker 3: in and once other contracts came in, we knew where
- 1:35Speaker 3: it was heading and I just think the two sides
- 1:37Speaker 3: wanted to get it done and One of the eight years,
- 1:39Speaker 3: and for us, obviously it's a huge number, but it's
- 1:44Speaker 3: a number that we're excited to be paying. Cale, he's
- 1:46Speaker 3: worth every penny, and we have him for the next
- 1:49Speaker 3: nine years. He'll finish his career in Colorado, which was
- 1:51Speaker 3: always the goal. It's an exciting day for our organization,
- 1:55Speaker 3: and obviously the fans and the city. We've got to
- 1:57Speaker 3: watch his dynamic. One of the best defensemen ever. ever
- 2:04Speaker 3: play the game. You can really say that right now.
- 2:07Speaker 3: So we're lucky to have him here for the next
- 2:10Speaker 3: nine years. It's going to be a thrill to watch
- 2:11Speaker 3: him wear the Avalanche uniform.
- 2:15Speaker 2: Joe, congratulations on getting the deal done. How busy have
- 2:18Speaker 2: you been since McFarland left, and are you ready to
- 2:21Speaker 2: get some help in office, or are you comfortable in
- 2:23Speaker 2: that role right now?
- 2:25Speaker 3: No, we have a great staff, and I've just been
- 2:28Speaker 3: leaning a lot on Andrew Cogliano, who's really done a
- 2:30Speaker 3: great job, Kevin McDonald, Really, our whole staff has done
- 2:37Speaker 3: a great job. When he left, we had to get
- 2:39Speaker 3: ready for the draft, so we were busy with the
- 2:42Speaker 3: draft and free agency. Then summer happens, and really it
- 2:48Speaker 3: was trying to get Cale's contract done. Obviously, we'll continue
- 2:52Speaker 3: talking with Arturi. his representatives, but it's one of those
- 2:56Speaker 3: things that we start the season and see where that goes.
- 3:00Speaker 3: But it's always open dialogue, and then obviously our head
- 3:03Speaker 3: coach is in his last year as well.
- 3:06Speaker 2: Yeah, you're talking about Luckin, and is that a negotiation?
- 3:08Speaker 2: Can that go throughout the season? Do you have a
- 3:10Speaker 2: deadline tap for that?
- 3:12Speaker 3: No, we don't have a deadline. It's open once the
- 3:15Speaker 3: season starts. We'll continue to talk and see where it goes.
- 3:19Speaker 3: But there's no urgency on either side. I think we're
- 3:22Speaker 3: both sides are comfortable just seeing how this plays out.
- 3:26Speaker 3: But we'd definitely like to have Arturi with our organization.
- 3:30Speaker 3: He's done a tremendous job.
- 3:30Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting when you talk about one of
- 3:33Speaker 4: the best defensemen of all time. Joe, when he first
- 3:36Speaker 4: broke in, I mean, we could obviously see his talent
- 3:38Speaker 4: in the way he plays the game and his competitive
- 3:41Speaker 4: spirit and so on. But then as we get way
- 3:43Speaker 4: into his career here, and every time we put up
- 3:45Speaker 4: a graphic during the broadcast and whatnot, you know, the names,
- 3:48Speaker 4: the Bobby Orr's are there, right? And the Chelios's are there.
- 3:51Speaker 4: And it's just, I guess there comes a day we
- 3:54Speaker 4: have to recognize this is what we are witnessing. And
- 3:57Speaker 4: then 30 years from now, 50 years from now, people
- 4:00Speaker 4: will be talking about this guy, perhaps the way we've
- 4:03Speaker 4: talked about those guys for forever.
- 4:06Speaker 3: Well, absolutely. I mean, he's the standard right now for
- 4:08Speaker 3: this next generation. Quinn Hughes, there's a couple guys like that,
- 4:13Speaker 3: but the way Cale plays the game offensively, but also defensively.
- 4:18Speaker 3: I mean, he can hit, and he's responsible. He penalty
- 4:22Speaker 3: kills as well as power plays, so he brings a...
- 4:24Speaker 3: I mean, he's 30 minutes a night in every situation,
- 4:29Speaker 3: so we're lucky to have that, and I mean, you said, like,
- 4:33Speaker 3: our generation, I guess it would have been, you know, well,
- 4:36Speaker 3: probably before me, Bobby Orr. You mentioned his name. I mean,
- 4:39Speaker 3: that was the standard. He set the standard on how
- 4:41Speaker 3: defensemen play the game. Then you see Paul Coffey come along,
- 4:45Speaker 3: and now Cale and these guys. I mean, the talent just,
- 4:50Speaker 3: what you're seeing out there with these guys and how
- 4:51Speaker 3: talented they are, how they change the game, how they
- 4:54Speaker 3: push the game, how they make the game so much
- 4:57Speaker 3: more exciting is pretty incredible.
- 5:00Speaker 1: Joe Sackick with us. You mentioned coming back into this
- 5:03Speaker 1: role that you're playing now, other guys within the front
- 5:05Speaker 1: office helping a lot, taking on bigger roles. You mentioned Cagliano.
- 5:10Speaker 1: Cagliano taking on a bigger role, is he kind of
- 5:13Speaker 1: being groomed for something bigger down the line, or is
- 5:15Speaker 1: he just doing his job now?
- 5:17Speaker 3: He's just doing a tremendous job. I mean, he's only been,
- 5:21Speaker 3: this is the third year, I believe, and he's a
- 5:24Speaker 3: tremendous worker. He loves the game. He's smart he he's
- 5:28Speaker 3: he's got a good feel and and having a guy
- 5:30Speaker 3: like that who's just recently retired is nice because he
- 5:33Speaker 3: knows the players of today a lot better than the
- 5:36Speaker 3: rest of us would so um he's just being a
- 5:38Speaker 3: huge help yeah.
- 5:40Speaker 2: Go ahead joe we keep hearing the cap is going
- 5:43Speaker 2: to go up um how sure are you of that
- 5:46Speaker 2: and you guys have like a a concrete number of
- 5:49Speaker 2: what it's going to be and when it's going to.
- 5:51Speaker 3: Be Well, from everything we're told, obviously revenues have to
- 5:56Speaker 3: keep going up. But the projection is, yeah, it's going
- 5:59Speaker 3: to go up. Well, what is it? 104 is going
- 6:02Speaker 3: to go to 113, and we're hearing 120s after that.
- 6:06Speaker 3: It's probably going to level off at some point, like
- 6:08Speaker 3: it does. But here in the next couple of years,
- 6:10Speaker 3: it should shoot up pretty good.
- 6:13Speaker 4: I was going to ask you about.
- 6:16Speaker 4: Yeah, I was going to ask you real quick, since
- 6:18Speaker 4: we have you here, about last weekend. This was a
- 6:21Speaker 4: treat for me. I haven't done this in a long time. Nellie,
- 6:23Speaker 4: give it a little bit. A couple of tires taken
- 6:28Speaker 4: away by D.U. Bob DeVise intercepted by Sackett. Nice little
- 6:36Speaker 4: sauce to Forsberg. We've seen that about 800,000 times. In
- 6:40Speaker 4: the history of the game, set in front, score! Joe Sackett!
- 6:44Speaker 4: So you're back on the ice in the Avs alumni game.
- 6:48Speaker 4: That was a great goal. How much fun was that
- 6:51Speaker 4: whole weekend, and how much fun was it finally getting
- 6:53Speaker 4: back with your former line mates and everything else?
- 6:57Speaker 3: You know what? We had a great time. I mean,
- 6:59Speaker 3: we're all probably a little nervous. You don't want to
- 7:02Speaker 3: turn and fall down, which probably almost happened. It happened
- 7:06Speaker 3: a few times to me where I was like, whoop,
- 7:08Speaker 3: can't do what I thought I could do. But, yeah,
- 7:11Speaker 3: it was great. It's always great to get back with
- 7:13Speaker 3: the guys. And just us being on the ice, again,
- 7:17Speaker 3: we had a blast. And all of us at the
- 7:18Speaker 3: same were like, whew. It was a tough night, tough
- 7:22Speaker 3: next morning for sure on the body. But it was
- 7:25Speaker 3: a blast. I mean, just getting the guys together in
- 7:28Speaker 3: the dressing room, you reminisce. It's like you're kids again.
- 7:33Speaker 3: You don't have to even see each other for 20 years.
- 7:35Speaker 3: And the minute you get back together, it's almost like
- 7:37Speaker 3: you were just back to being teammates 20 years prior,
- 7:40Speaker 3: trying to win a Stanley Cup. And here we were
- 7:42Speaker 3: at D, having a great time on the ice. So
- 7:45Speaker 3: it was an awesome weekend.
- 7:47Speaker 1: Joe Sackick with us. You know, it's not totally unheard of,
- 7:51Speaker 1: but I would say it is rare to have a
- 7:53Speaker 1: coach going into the last year of his contract. Is
- 7:55Speaker 1: there any status update on Bednar's contract? Is anything going
- 7:58Speaker 1: to happen with that?
- 8:00Speaker 3: No, we're continuing. We're going to talk about it and
- 8:04Speaker 3: see if we can get to an agreement here. But, no,
- 8:08Speaker 3: I mean, coaches, players, there's a lot of people that
- 8:11Speaker 3: have gone in their last year of their deal, and
- 8:14Speaker 3: you find a way to get something done. So I'm
- 8:17Speaker 3: not worried about it. I don't think Betsy's worried about it.
- 8:19Speaker 3: We'll try and get to an extension, and, you know,
- 8:26Speaker 3: hopefully– hopefully working where we can work something out, but,
- 8:29Speaker 3: but there's no urgency either.
- 8:31Speaker 2: Hey, uh, you guys start in September for crying out loud,
- 8:34Speaker 2: which is crazy. How, how abbreviated is the preseason going
- 8:37Speaker 2: to be in the camp and all that business with
- 8:39Speaker 2: the longer season?
- 8:42Speaker 3: Well, we've, we've always said guys come into training camp.
- 8:45Speaker 3: It's such great shape now, um, to have only four games. It's, um,
- 8:49Speaker 3: I think it's a good thing. I mean, obviously we're
- 8:51Speaker 3: playing 84 games, uh, I know when I started, it
- 8:54Speaker 3: was over a month long. It was way too long.
- 8:57Speaker 3: And I think it's about right now where it's two weeks.
- 9:00Speaker 3: You get your training camp up a few games, and
- 9:03Speaker 3: it's such a long, long year. So why not just
- 9:04Speaker 3: get going and get to the real deal right away?
- 9:09Speaker 3: Everybody's excited about that.
- 9:10Speaker 4: Sorry about that, Joe. Is there anything else left for
- 9:12Speaker 4: you to do between now and then? Are there any
- 9:13Speaker 4: PTOs coming perhaps? Are you keeping your eye out on
- 9:16Speaker 4: that kind of thing? How does that work from this
- 9:18Speaker 4: point until they want to camp?
- 9:20Speaker 3: As of right now, we're just getting ready for camp.
- 9:22Speaker 3: Our guys are rolling in here now, skating together. Right now,
- 9:28Speaker 3: there's nothing. We're just going to keep our eyes open.
- 9:31Speaker 3: We have some young guys that we're excited about, and
- 9:35Speaker 3: we want to give them every opportunity they can do,
- 9:39Speaker 3: either make the team or be the next call-up guys.
- 9:42Speaker 3: But there's some guys in our organization that deserve a
- 9:46Speaker 3: shot on a regular basis, and Lucky for us, we
- 9:50Speaker 3: have a number of them and we'll see who stands out.
- 9:53Speaker 2: You know, we were talking about this on the show
- 9:54Speaker 2: the other day, Joe, and this is how much the
- 9:56Speaker 2: money has changed. And this is everything in life.
- 9:58Speaker 3: It's not just hockey.
- 9:59Speaker 2: But when the Rangers came after you, we found that was, what,
- 10:03Speaker 2: three years, 22 million most?
- 10:05Speaker 1: 21.
- 10:06Speaker 2: Three years, 21? And then you signed a guy for
- 10:09Speaker 2: that much in one year. It's truly remarkable how much
- 10:12Speaker 2: the money. Did you ever anticipate the money moving that
- 10:15Speaker 2: much in your sports?
- 10:18Speaker 3: Well, you always hope, right, especially when you're a player.
- 10:21Speaker 3: But it's no different than when I came in, the
- 10:24Speaker 3: generation before us. I mean, all of a sudden the
- 10:28Speaker 3: money started skyrocketing and kind of plateaued a little bit.
- 10:31Speaker 3: And now with the revenues, with the revenues going up,
- 10:35Speaker 3: I mean, the contracts are going to go up following
- 10:37Speaker 3: the revenues. And I just think it just means the
- 10:40Speaker 3: game's in such a great spot right now. It's such
- 10:42Speaker 3: an entertaining game. And guys deserve the money. They do
- 10:45Speaker 3: what they do. every single day to try and get better.
- 10:50Speaker 3: It's a tough league. It's a physical league. The body
- 10:53Speaker 3: takes a toll, and these guys deserve whatever they can get.
- 10:56Speaker 1: Joe Sackick with us. Last thing for you, Joe, and
- 10:58Speaker 1: I appreciate the time. You've made a lot of great
- 11:00Speaker 1: acquisitions in your time here in the front office for
- 11:02Speaker 1: the Avs. Where does trading Riker to DU rank among
- 11:06Speaker 1: your best trades?
- 11:08Speaker 3: Ha, ha, ha, ha. To be honest with you, I
- 11:11Speaker 3: didn't really want to do that. But it's so funny
- 11:14Speaker 3: because Peter Stashley is our coach, and he knew something
- 11:16Speaker 3: was up. It was probably more of a trade for him.
- 11:18Speaker 3: But Peter kept saying, guys, guys, okay, we've got to
- 11:22Speaker 3: keep it tight. You know, fans want to see a
- 11:24Speaker 3: tight game. So we don't want to run it up.
- 11:26Speaker 3: And then he goes and we trade Riker for Paul Stashley.
- 11:30Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm not sure that really helped out the
- 11:32Speaker 3: cause for Peter, wanting to keep it close.
- 11:34Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 11:36Speaker 3: Joe Sackick.
- 11:39Speaker 2: We will offend the hell out of him. We have
- 11:41Speaker 2: no problem doing that.
- 11:42Speaker 4: The king of the toe pick. When he got traded,
- 11:44Speaker 4: he actually played better. I can't believe he didn't play
- 11:46Speaker 4: like that for you guys. That's funny stuff.
- 11:50Speaker 1: Joe Sackick with us.
- 11:52Speaker 2: Appreciate the time.
- 11:53Speaker 3: We're cutting out here a little bit. I can't hear
- 11:55Speaker 3: you guys. Can you hear me?
- 11:56Speaker 1: We got you.
- 11:58Speaker 2: We're saying goodbye anyway.
- 11:59Speaker 1: Thank you so much for the time, Joe. Appreciate it.
- 12:02Speaker 3: You're welcome, guys. Anytime.