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Hey, actually extremely appropriate because that is the
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music that plays with hijinks ensue.
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And here we are with anime club this week.
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If you like snacks, if you like anime, then you're in the right
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We're here every week and this week I'm your host Phoebe and my
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beautiful Co host himself, the wonderful Konoha Chris.
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All right, just to confirm, we are live now because?
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We are live now just. Before.
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We went live, Chris. Well I forgot to press the go
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live button and I just started going.
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And we were fully going for like a couple of minutes before both
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of us were like, I think this is working.
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So, but we made it in the end. Look at us, 2 old people using
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technology, embracing the modern age.
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It's a beautiful thing. Did I have to put my glasses on
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as well? Oh, did I press that?
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Oh hang on while I make a dad noise as I stand up.
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Do you ever feel yourself doing the tromboning thing with your
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phone as well if you don't wear the glasses?
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No, just me. OK, no, no, I I just bump into
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things in the dark. That's my that's my bad eyes.
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Chris. We are doing an absolute
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classic. I think both of us grew up with
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this anime. Definitely.
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And it's definitely been an absolute delight.
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I've been really excited about doing this this week because
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we're doing Naruto, Naruto, Naruto, no.
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No. Oh yeah.
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How? How do you say it?
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Because I pronounced something weird before, didn't I?
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Yeah. What was it that you?
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Oh yeah. Ship.
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Pudding. Ship pudding.
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Ship Pudding. It's Naruto ship Pudding.
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Comes from tip mines. From comes from hidden in the
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village, hidden into mine in Not Mill, Nut Mill, Hidden up Mill.
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All right. You went to Northern even for me
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there. Yeah, yeah.
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I wouldn't say northern. We hit the Arctic Circle just
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then. I mean, generous of you to say
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Northern and not like anything else because that could have
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been all over the map, really. But yeah, we're doing Naruto
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this week and we have snacks. You didn't actually ask me about
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my snacks beforehand. Why don't you eat the surprises?
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Yeah, you go for it. Oh.
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Did you? I'm I'm nailing it.
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I've gone full packed lunch. Can you hear the crinkling?
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Oh, we got baby Bell. Do you know I recently had some
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baby bell but they didn't make it to fry in the fridge on
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Monday I had baby bell but they didn't make it.
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I do have some dairy triangles though in the fridge, but I'm
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saving those for a Sunday picnic.
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No, I've gone kinder. Kinder bar and mini party rings.
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Yeah. Hey, where's the party?
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In my mouth. Clipped.
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Everyone's invited, actually, not everyone.
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I'm quite selective. Chris, what have you got for
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snacks? This week and so I've got Kit
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Kats again. I've got 4 but the only little
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ones so I can do 4 at a time and.
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I've got, oh, now he's invited to the party I've got.
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Strawberry white chocolate and strawberry milk chocolate and
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green and dogger green. OK, no.
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I feel like, you know, in black Ada when it's like I've got a
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negative purest green. Yeah, All right, Baldrick.
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So you called this baldy there? Oh no, even I'm not that mean.
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I like turnip, yeah. Week I'll have one.
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So I mean, most people have seen this is one of the big three
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anime, right? And actually, yeah.
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I've been doing a secret One Piece rewatch which I haven't
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really talked to anyone about, and the reason I haven't talked
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to anyone about it is because I don't want to get into a
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conversation about what because. I didn't even know about this.
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To cover, did you not know, like I've been doing, I've, I've gone
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right up to I can't even remember where I've gone up to,
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but I'm I'm, I'm in it. I'm in like the hundreds.
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Right, right. Of my rewatch I think they've
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just had like the revolution in the desert with Princess Phoebe.
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No, I've seen it it. Doesn't mean anything to you but
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this week I paused the re watch to do Naruto and about halfway
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through the first episode I was like actually do I want to be re
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watching one piece or do I want to be re watching Naruto?
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It's a hard pick. They're both absolute childhood
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classics. They're both the big, like,
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they're both like, what? Like big anime with long stories
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and characters that you get like, incredibly attached to.
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And I've just had a delight coming back to this this week.
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How has it been for you? Well, so not so secretly, I've
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been doing a One Piece for the watch for the first time as
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well. So I'm up to episode like 50 or
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something because I've been doing watching things in between
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and I haven't had that much time, but luckily I've been
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skiving off work enough so I can watch some.
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And so I'll pause that to watch this your.
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Boss is going to see this. And by your boss, I mean your
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dad. No, he won't watch us.
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I don't think he knows I'd deal with podcasts to be fair.
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I don't think he knows that he employs me.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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My wage, it's weird, my wage packet comes in small claims
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money. Anyway, Yeah, so I've been
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watching this and it's like bring back all of the nostalgia
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I used to. I forgot how much I loved it
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because I've never rewatched Naruto before.
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And I'm like, oh, yeah, there's that character.
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He's amazing. I love his arc.
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Oh, yeah, remember when this happens?
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And then I've slowly been talking to you about this and
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I'm like, oh, can you remember this part?
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And you're like, yes, that's the best bit.
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And oh, isn't this family a bunch of bastards?
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And you're like, yeah, they are. Yeah.
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Oh, they were. Yeah.
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So yeah, I've been spoiler. I've is this amazing?
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I I probably should have picked this for my pick instead of for
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my alchemist. The amount of like nostalgia and
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goodness I'm getting from this and.
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I, yeah, I loved full, I loved doing Full Metal Alchemist.
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It didn't give me the same kind of nostalgia as this gave me.
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And I can remember like I can remember, like reading a lot of
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a lot of fanfic. All right about link down below.
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Creepy. Kind link down below not
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necessarily the creepy kind, but a lot of fabric about Naruto as
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a like a as a preteen right. So this, it was proper, proper
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nostalgia feels, yeah. It was good.
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I've just. And you can get it all on
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Netflix which was even better. So now I do feel like I am going
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to be doing a Netflix like rewatch of Naruto.
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Is it on Netflix? I'm.
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Going to have to switch. Yeah.
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Oh. I didn't know.
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That yeah, because I got, because it was on Crunchyroll
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and then I was like, what? They don't have English dub?
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I've I've got stuff to do. Fair.
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But and then so then I googled it and it turned out it's on
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Netflix. The English dub is on Netflix, I
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think. Netflix obviously have the
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rights to the English version, right?
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Odds know that I would have watched it.
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Obviously I watched soap for this.
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I watched it soap originally as well.
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And you've just reminded us of one of the because if you're
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admitting embarrassing things, we we fan fix.
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And one one of the most humiliated I've felt on the
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Internet for football was I can't remember what Argo was.
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I think it was just when it was going to M Shippuden ship shit
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pudding and and for some reason I really wanted Naruto and henna
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let it get together. I left a comment and someone
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just commented back innocently. I was like, oh, someone's
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replied they must feel the same way.
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Just saying, what a loser. No, but but you were right,
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Chris. You were matchmaking even then.
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I know, I know. Little, little Chris.
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The perfect matchmaker. That's what happens.
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Spoilers. Oh, no, don't call that face.
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That looks delicious. It looks fancy.
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Is that the strawberry? And milk.
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Yeah, it kind of looks like a Rice Krispie cake with
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chocolates covered bottom and bits of red in it.
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That sounds delicious. What does it taste like?
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Delicious. Yeah, you're regretting pulling
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that face now, aren't you? I thought they were kick cats.
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Apologize. Apologize for that tiny little
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bar of delight. Sorry, yeah, the restaurant kick
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cats all. OK, great.
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The but no, yeah, there's lots of lots of lots of fails.
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And we'll talk about our favorite bits and favorite
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characters. And we're probably not going to
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be able to stay in the first 3 episodes for this because I
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think both of us were just like spinning out and when we were
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watching this. But if you were going to
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describe this to someone who had never seen it before, which is
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probably someone young. Yeah.
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It's someone younger than us. It is 20 odd years old though,
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yeah. Don't stop you hateful person.
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Why would you say that out loud? So I think describing this is
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really hard because it is what, 309 episodes in the first
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series? So if you've watched them all
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and you've came with them on the journey, so you see now grow up
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and do multiple different arcs and things, you kind of pinpoint
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it down to one story kind of. You can kind of say what the
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first couple of episodes are about and maybe he's a bit about
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the character, but I would say it's about a ninja with A9
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tailed fox demon stuck inside of him.
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He's sealed as a baby and he is becoming a ninja because that
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much stuff happens. It's hard.
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He turns into a woman at some point and weirdly tries to
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seduce to old men. In the first episode.
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In fact, yeah, he teams up with a pervy two with a pervy
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frogman. Yeah, who is very pervy.
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I'm a poor. Yeah, poor 1.
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Poor one out for Julia Sensei. So yeah, I think it.
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Fails. It's it's hard, hard, but
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there's so much current development.
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You might start off where I mean, when I first saw the first
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episode, I was like, he's annoying little kid and he like
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painting, painting stuff on the walls and he's just like, I
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can't catch me. You're like, how can this
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stretch out? And you're like, but the amount
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of character development that's in it, you like, you love them
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by the end. Mainly because he changes.
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Yeah, yeah, but we were we were talking about other characters
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that we love in this and Rockley is is came up as like there's a
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particular Rockley moment. So Rockley is someone who
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doesn't have like a lot of I I might get the names of stuff
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wrong now. So ninjutsu, which is like the
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special abilities that's like chakra based.
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He doesn't have a lot of that. But what he can do is the, is it
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genjitsu, the the physical fighting stuff.
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And he's got weights. You find out after after he's
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been fighting like a bad ass for quite a while.
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You find out. Oh no, no, he's got weights on.
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Yeah. And I think it's in the TuneIn
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exams where he goes up against Garra from the Hidden Village of
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Sand for the first time and he takes the weights off.
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And then you see him in like unleashed broccoli form.
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And in that moment, he goes from slightly irritating Boy Scouty,
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like nerdy classmate that everyone's a bit like, oh,
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Broccoli's walked into the room to like total badass.
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And this series is something that where the characters pivot
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on a moment of just like beauty that doesn't look like you're
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enjoying that one as much. Which one was that?
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Dark green. Oh, it looks like not food.
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That looks like something you put in a bath.
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You. Kind of Batty well.
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Do you know what I mean? You know what's?
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Weird as well. Only one I.
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Don't know if you can see that on the camera, but there's a
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little pen and a bit of like squared paper.
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What you meant to write on there?
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Your name. Maybe if you're bringing it in
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for like stacks for school or something.
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Be conscientious. Your name's not that long.
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You'd be fine. Yeah, but but my my full name is
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though. Since when was the when's?
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Who was the last person who called you Christopher rather
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than Chris I? Don't know, don't even the
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doctor like you were good. Just 'cause you, Mr. Reed.
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Yeah, I've already told you, Mr. Reed, put your pants back on.
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This is a waiting. Room.
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Yeah. Can you wait until we actually
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need you to take them off, please?
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And could you step inside the building?
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No. Yeah.
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But yeah, so this is yeah. So it's a it's a series where
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the characters have those like where you watching the
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characters, the way that you feel about them changes in a
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moment. And I was wondering if you had a
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moment with Naruto or, or one of the OR one of his like original
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three team mates with Sakura or with Sasa Gay, which like do you
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have a moment in which you kind of went, Oh, actually, I'm this
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is a character I'm willing to root for now.
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Yeah, I think it was episode 2 where court memory's name but
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The Who called Gay's grandson. So it's yeah, so it's got so
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it's kind of defeated the whole car game by performing a sexy no
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jutsu where he turns into like a naked woman.
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It's censored on the anime, but implied boobs and fan and then
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like they're like, oh, you defeated my grandpa.
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My goal is to become the whole car case.
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So I need to learn this technique, become my like you
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can become my teacher and I'll be yours.
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Whatever apprentice. And then he sits and like after
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a couple of things happen, he sits and down in a log and he
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sees like to want to be the whole cargo is a pointless dream
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because he needs to be the strongest ninja.
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That's just like a kind of like a by product.
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I want to be get everyone's trust and stuff.
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And then I start seeing a change, which is very early on.
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It's episode 2. That's why I was like, OK, I can
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see why. I can see myself liking him.
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He's not just A1 dimensional character.
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He's a naughty boy kind of thing.
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I had a similar thing although it was in episode 1 towards the
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end of episode 1 where where you hit.
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So you you hit Iruka who is like who's like his teacher who comes
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to rescue him after one of the bad teachers, Mizuke tricks him
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into stealing a forbidden scroll that he learns his shadow clone
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Jitsu from. And there's a bit where he,
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like, Iruka is like pinned against a tree with like
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Shirokan in his legs and, yeah, bleeding out.
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And he's like, and Mizuki's there like, oh, Naruto's like
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nothing. He just wants like the scroll
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for his own power. And like, you're like foolish to
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believe in him. And for a minute you think that
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Aruka is agrees with Mizuki. And then you hear Aruka's actual
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opinion of, of who Naruto is. And for me, it's that moment I'm
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like, oh, because then it changes.
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And you see like this kind of very scared boy who's made like
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a horrible mistake. Be willing to like face his the
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consequence of his actions and like is ready to like dive in
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front of a blade for someone who.
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It's all weird. Yeah, it's it's not even someone
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that he's just, he would be, I think at that moment, it almost
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doesn't matter. He would be willing to dive in
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front of a blade for anyone because you see him, like
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resolved to be someone who's going to protect people.
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And that for me is such a lovely way to like start a series
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because you're like, oh, yeah, of course.
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Here's someone who no one loves and who everyone is actually
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pretty, pretty shifty too. But you sit like he still has
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like a heart of like sweet, cheerful ramen loving goodness.
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Oh, that's the green light green.
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What's light green like? I'm saving the white chocolate
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strawberry what I lost. Your face is not telling me that
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you like green things. This is the same but not as
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strong. OK.
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I think Molly says might be matcha.
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It might be. I don't think I like Matcha.
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I mean, I don't dislike it, I just don't like it.
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Your face is telling me you do dislike it, and that's OK.
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You're allowed to still like anime.
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If you don't like that. It's not like it's not a
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requirement, no. So yeah, we loved it.
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There's very nostalgic coming back, the music, yeah, I've had
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music stuck in my head all day, all day from this.
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Yeah. What's your favorite part?
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Because we were just before we were on this, I was like, sure,
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we'll have a look at some of the intros and stuff as well.
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Not even just the music that's played, the dead Dead, the
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other, the Japanese shouting in drums and flutes, which is
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amazing. That one, that's my favorite.
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Yeah, well. But what's your favorite
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opening? It's so hard actually, I was
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looking this up. I was looking through them all.
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I do think the Shippuden ones are better than the original hot
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take. I think they're better than the
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originals, but the I actually think the first opening because
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I got like genuine, I think I messaged you to be like, I'm
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getting shivers from the music because I got like this like
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bodily reaction of like sweet nostalgia from it.
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So I don't know if that can count.
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It's just weeb energy. Like it was just the power of
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the weeb compelled me. Yeah.
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Yeah, 100%. But I also that it's not an
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opening, it's the closing one, the climbing the mountain never
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fall down because I learnt. I.
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Taught myself how to play that on the piano.
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I literally sat there and worked it out just so that I could play
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that. Did you impress anyone with it?
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It was just for yourself, You. Did I did it for myself?
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I think I very foolishly then tried to impress someone with
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it, which would have been the boy or girl at the time who I
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fancied, and I think I remember them being profoundly confused
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and impressed and then me being like, maybe music is something I
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just do for myself. Maybe I'll just play this
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inside. Maybe no one needs to see how
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hard I've been working on this all by myself.
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Oh, I would have been impressed. Thanks, Chris.
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Also confused, why were you in Brighton at the time?
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Just because you're not going to pee, Anna.
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Yeah, Weaves travelled for hundreds of miles.
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Yeah. Could you see him, like,
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scampering down? I think because he thinks I've
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dropped some crumbs. So you're a ninja.
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Let's imagine for a moment, OK? Because my favorite way to enjoy
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anime is to pretend that I'm in that world.
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You and ninja. What ninja village do you come
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from? Would you want to pick come from
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one of the existing ones? Or are you going to make up your
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own village with its own name? Yeah.
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What's your, what's your what? Where are you from?
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And then we're going to do. And what was your what would
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your vibe and special powers be? So I'm going to go with the one
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I told because you asked me this before so I'd take a think about
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it. I'm sticking with the same 1 so
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I'm going to pick the village of the hidden disability.
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What's your special power? Is it that you can summon
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incident? No, what I'm going to do is I
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can, I can use my chakra when on contact someone and shut
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people's organs down when I, when I punch them, I hit them
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with it. Oh.
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That's kind of cool. That's a little bit what like
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Sakura learns to do in terms of like chakra control.
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There's like a healing E type but anti healing.
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Less slug element. To it like what?
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Sorry, slugs. Doesn't the whole car game can't
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remember her name now the blonde one have a giant slug.
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Yeah, What's her name? I know you mean Sunade.
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That sounds like sounds right. I've to tell you the truth,
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right? The one who drinks and gambles.
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Yeah. So for this episode, yeah, that
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one, the one I can't look, the one I can't look directly down,
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the one who haven't seen. Her feet since puberty.
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Yeah, kind of kind of run up the stairs too fast.
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Yeah. For for this episode, I've done
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0 notes. I've watched the three episodes
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and I'm going from Memo Berries and feelings.
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That's all I'm doing so. Yeah, I love that.
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To be fair, I've only done notes for questions but it came
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flooding back to me in such a sweet and beautiful where I'm in
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but. I just, I just remembered Nedji
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as well. Oh.
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He's another character who thinks a Dick for most of it and
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then right at the end. I think his eyes just creep me
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out a little bit. I'm like, what are those fans
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doing? And he's like.
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You deserve you should treat him better coming from the village
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of the hidden disability. He's visible, so sworn enemies.
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OK, nice. So that's your, that's your
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village, that's your power. What's yours?
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You. Know I posed this question and
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didn't think about it that's. Exactly what I did last week.
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I quite like the village of Rain and like all the lightning and
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stuff from right. I think it's the country, it's
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the rain country, Village of lightning.
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I'd be all storm based. I'd be like stomach summoning
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winds. Oh.
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It's a breeze. Yeah, I'd be eating food,
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summoning winds. There's Beanie Phoebes over
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there. Beanie Thieves.
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I'd be throwing out lightning. Yeah, I think that'd be my vibe.
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Just like Shackra Lightning, a bit like Kakashi does, because
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he's got some fun lightning attacks that he does.
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Is that chidori? Yeah, that is what it is.
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Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I kind of like those. Really flashy.
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Yeah. Bad like ninja equivalent of
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finger guns but like laser guns. I'm just thinking as well, when
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Naruto when Naruto learns a move he uses it like he gets his
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money worth doesn't he? He does those shadow clones.
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Oh my gosh. I do think the shadow clones are
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insanely useful. Yeah, but they are really only.
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The thing I also like is that a lot of the powers have
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limitations. It's a bit like the X-Men in
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that there's there's like always a flaw with the power.
28:40
And I like that the shadow clones can only really be as
28:43
powerful as Naruto himself. So like at the beginning he can
28:47
summon loads of them but they're not that useful because.
28:51
Yeah. Not that skilled.
28:55
Essentially, you've just summoned a bunch of kids.
28:59
Which is like, you know, anyone who's been to a four year old's
29:02
birthday party knows it's not without threat.
29:06
Yeah, but a quick like kick and you can get like three of them,
29:11
at least I've heard. Speaking from experience as a
29:15
father. I said I've I've heard, so that
29:19
puts us in the clear. Would you say 1 of the we've
29:27
already mentioned Naruto does turn.
29:29
He has something also called a sexy no jitsu which he isn't in
29:33
a forbidden scroll. It seems to be something that
29:35
he's just made-up himself. Yeah.
29:40
Which is a whole other whole other ball game.
29:45
Would you use it if you knew how to do it?
29:49
Yes, If it was in that weird ninja world, yeah, probably.
29:55
I don't know what I would use it for, but I would use it because
30:00
it's a it's a weird world because this he uses a sexy
30:03
nujutsu which turns himself into a naked woman.
30:09
But as we know from episode 2, like there's porn in this world.
30:14
There's like nudie mags and stuff.
30:16
So why? Why these men acting like it's
30:19
the first time they've seen Abou before I?
30:23
Don't know. I, I do, you know, my, my
30:25
suspicion, a lot of the ninjas start off as children, like
30:29
child soldiers. And I wonder if there are
30:31
certain elements that they, they just like have missed out on.
30:35
Certain like key milestones maybe.
30:40
Who knows. But I bet there's fanfic out
30:42
there about it. Link below, Link below.
30:49
Like subscribe for my new podcast where I read fanfic out
30:55
loud. Phoebe's fanfics.
30:58
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31:04
Oh, Jordan is I've I've been looking and thinking about what
31:08
you would put as an intro because ours is a big crap and
31:11
because it's just me dancing in whatever position I put it in.
31:14
I could just have you read in a verse of some weird fanfic with
31:17
subscribe as an outro. I I low key would be terrified
31:27
about what fanfic you would pick.
31:31
So I would get late to pick. It maybe we can ask.
31:35
Maybe we should ask people to comment.
31:36
Leave us a link to your favorite fan stick if you want to see me
31:40
read it out. Can I just if?
31:42
Anyone did legitimately comments that I'll read, I'll read an
31:45
excerpt. Can I just can I just clarify
31:49
that send join the discord and send Phoebe the link not me?
31:55
Then I put it in the YouTube comments.
31:57
Straighten the YouTube comments for everyone to see so Narita
32:05
has a swing that he goes and sits on when he's sad.
32:09
That swing gets so much airtime. Where's your sad place?
32:17
When can actually give me two answers?
32:19
Where was your sad place when you were watching this 20 years
32:22
ago? And where is your current sad
32:25
place? Well when I was watching this 20
32:29
odd years ago, watching Naruto out me a compete, that was my
32:33
sad place. Yeah, fair.
32:42
That's why people watch anime, isn't it?
32:43
An escape and. One of the reasons.
32:49
Yeah, apparently. And you know what it is?
32:53
I don't have a sad place now. Sometimes I turn the radio off
32:57
and drive in silence home. That's all I get.
33:03
That feels so key terrifying 1. You just, if you just bottle up
33:10
your feelings and squeeze them down and repress them,
33:13
everything's fine, yeah. In in the silence of me in the
33:18
road. What's the French call at the
33:23
call of the void? Yeah.
33:27
Where's your sad place, space VP?
33:32
20 years ago when I was watching Deruto, we had an apple tree in
33:39
our garden and sometimes I'd climb up on the tree and sit in
33:43
the tree. Do you know what that reminds me
33:45
of? Have you seen Kevin and Perry
33:47
when he goes in a Hoff and he hangs a boat in the Bush outside
33:49
for God and the. Shout at the door is very that.
33:56
Baby, it's time for tea. OK, Mum.
34:01
The thing is, I got this. I was this height at 13, so it
34:04
didn't stay the sad place for very long because it wasn't a
34:07
very Big Apple tree. Oh, was it one of the baby ones?
34:13
It was one of the ones that you have in like gardens, not in
34:16
like orchards. Oh, right.
34:19
So yeah, I had an idea. You know the ones where you put
34:22
a bit of plastic around because they're still grown?
34:24
I thought you were just sitting on one of them.
34:28
No, no, it was like a it wasn't. It was like a grown up tree.
34:31
I think I could still remember how to get up into it because
34:34
they were like knob anyway, but I distinctly remember going
34:38
there a couple of times because I was just like in 1/2, which
34:43
happened. Fair.
34:45
No, nobody was impressed with me.
34:47
Piano, go up the tree. Although actually the piano was
34:53
probably, and actually still probably is, is practicing
34:59
music. Like I'm feeling like really
35:01
sad. That's the thing that I do to,
35:02
like, get over my half. I'm going to play really badly
35:08
and really loud, and then I'm punishing everyone else while
35:10
I'll feel better. Obnoxious.
35:23
Yeah, so we're watching it 20 years after it was first
35:33
released. Yeah.
35:35
And you've said already that it's it is a 20 year old anime.
35:39
How how do you think it held up? And what are some of the areas
35:43
where you're like, oh, that wouldn't happen today?
35:46
Oh yeah, definitely turning into a naked woman, for example.
35:51
Slave of the worst. And then all these adult men
35:54
being like attracted to the point of being like, yeah, non
35:59
functional. Physically blown back by it.
36:08
The woman is so sexy and so naked and so secretly a child.
36:18
Yeah. Yeah, it's weird.
36:20
So 20 years ago this all went either over my head or I just
36:25
laughed at it because it's like it was the 2000s whatever.
36:29
So the first episode is sad narrator and you'd learn like
36:35
he's an orphan, all that stuff. The second episode is where he
36:38
meets a minor and shows some porn to research what a sexy
36:42
girl looks like and transforms into that sexy girl from the
36:45
knowledge that they've learnt. And then yeah, I don't think
36:50
that would probably be fly today.
36:52
It might to be fair in anime, but I don't think it'd be as
36:56
well received. And then the third one is where
36:59
he transforms into another teammates aske that his other
37:06
team Sakura likes and catfishes them, catfishes her and to the
37:12
point where they just about to kiss.
37:14
Luckily he drank some expired milk and had the had the trots,
37:18
so he couldn't do anything nefarious.
37:20
But yeah, there's a bit of a bit of a yeah.
37:24
Yeah, yeah, it's a bit weird, isn't it?
37:29
Yeah. And also then Saske is like
37:33
fully sticks up for him as well behind his back which.
37:39
I see odd rewatching this and knowing that Saske is a little
37:43
horrible orphan boy as well and it's when Sakura says Oh well
37:48
you doesn't even have any parents like who does that kind
37:51
of thing and he's just like. Who decides not to have parents?
37:56
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he can stay up late and do
37:59
what he wants. What a freak.
38:00
And he's just like, we don't know at the time.
38:03
He's a little orphan boy as well.
38:06
So I think that's the only reason he stuck up from.
38:08
Oh, do you think just because he was pissed?
38:12
Yeah, yeah. He has a shit story, not as in
38:18
like shit is in bad shit is in sad Who Sasuke.
38:22
Yeah, he's he gets a raw deal out of the whole.
38:27
Ninja Village vibes justified Bruton.
38:32
Justified brooding. Yeah.
38:35
Yeah, the original emo kid. In terms of anime characters, I
38:39
was trying to think is there another like an earlier emo
38:42
character and I couldn't think of one.
38:44
For me it's like Sasuke is like the original, the OG emo kid.
38:49
Yeah, I'll see so as well. Yeah, so we talked a bit about
38:58
Rockley being fucking amazing. Who, who, what are the favorite
39:03
characters were you like, who came back to you in as you were
39:07
watching when you were like, oh, I remember this bit.
39:10
That's exciting. Do you know who I forgot that I
39:13
really loved as well? Shikamaru.
39:16
I think he's class, he just doesn't give a shit.
39:18
Shikamaru is amazing. I love him and it's like in like
39:22
I love. I love the energy of someone who
39:24
is so intelligent that they're just bored.
39:28
Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got a weird fishnet top on
39:32
with AG lay on and he just lies in the grass like this being I
39:36
can't be asked, I'm too good for this, and then he gets
39:42
challenged and then starts to get his arse together.
39:44
Also in gear. Yeah, that's because that's all
39:48
he needs is just a little bit of challenge.
39:51
Yeah, Yeah, fair. What about you?
39:56
He's a good, he's a good shout. Do you know who I remember that
39:59
I really liked Anko, who's the. So she's one of the TuneIn who
40:05
administers the the forest part of the exam.
40:07
And she's got like purple hair and she's always eating dango.
40:11
Yep, Yep, Yep. And she.
40:12
Yeah, you know who I mean. And she has like a bit of a
40:15
redemption arc to because she's like formerly A traitor now
40:19
having to like earn her place back in and.
40:25
Is also like I'd forgotten how badass she is, but also the
40:29
other the other characters and I got quite excited because I
40:32
fully like went way past episode 3 into episode like 8-8 or nine
40:39
and it's Zabuza. Zabuza and Happy, two of the
40:43
best villains in anime history in my in my book, because a they
40:49
are terrifying once they enter the scene, because there is a
40:53
genuine moment where you're like, is this going to be a
40:55
really short? And obviously we know that it
40:57
goes on for hundreds of episodes after.
41:00
But like in terms of like true peril, it feels like that's the
41:03
first moment of true peril that the the team face.
41:08
And again, it does that thing where you pivot your opinion
41:12
about a character in a moment and you actually you see the
41:16
like injustice of the of war. In.
41:21
The like storyline because it's like, which I find interesting
41:24
because it is basically a show about soldiers, right?
41:26
It's a show about ninja, but it doesn't glorify like the
41:31
violence. The opposite I think.
41:33
I don't think, yeah, I would say the opposite.
41:36
I would say it's a call for like.
41:39
Cooperation and peace. Rather my memories a bit fuzzy
41:42
about Sabaza. So basically from what I
41:44
remember Zabaza got and took in like orphaned kids and trained
41:53
them up as child soldiers but used them as tools.
41:56
He was like literally no affection, no nice at ease.
41:59
He's like you are a tool kind of like a farmer has a dog, it has
42:03
one job. If you don't do it, I don't need
42:05
you, you're out kind of thing. And then whilst fighting with
42:08
Naruto, Sasco and Sakura, and Naruto goes Raj, because he's
42:16
just like, this isn't right, you shouldn't treat people like
42:19
this. And then he's just like, Oh yes,
42:23
maybe I am a bit of a Dick. And then he finally gets his
42:27
redemption knock as he's dying. Yeah, that's what happens, isn't
42:32
it? Yeah.
42:33
Yeah, yeah. And he's got this kind of very
42:36
protective relationship with Haku as well.
42:39
Yeah, who's a feminine appearing boy?
42:42
Very yeah. So like like gender, gender, it
42:48
feels like gender almost gender neutral in terms of their the
42:52
way that they're portrayed. Again, can't can't really think
42:56
of many characters or anime that have that what you're fiddling
43:01
with and. Just just just realized that you
43:10
weren't in the frame properly though you.
43:15
Had one job, Chris. Don't, don't punish me.
43:21
Again, and he has this relationship with Haku who's
43:25
like a kind of like young, very beautiful man.
43:30
It's almost quite kind of queer coded their relationship, I
43:32
think. And and Haku is almost devoutly
43:39
loyal to Zaboos to the point where you feel sorry for him
43:42
because Zaboos are such a prick. And it's their relationship that
43:46
like as they both die because they both die, right?
43:50
Yeah. But they have this moment of
43:53
like realization between the two of them that is genuinely
43:56
heartbreaking. And one of the moments where I
43:59
was like, oh, this anime actually packs a real punch.
44:02
And there are a few other deaths in it that pour one out that
44:08
really catch you as you like. Watch this on.
44:11
So apologies for spoiling that big death for those people who
44:15
haven't watched it, but trust me, there are plenty of others
44:17
you can enjoy. Further down the road, Yeah,
44:22
Definitely. Yeah.
44:24
Do you know what caught me of what death caught me of God,
44:27
though? Which one?
44:29
I don't even think he was a He's a major character.
44:33
Yeah, because it was the Shikimaru, but that because he
44:36
gives them like the the knuckle just of things, doesn't he?
44:40
And I remember watching that and I think I smoked at the time and
44:46
I was just saying, Oh well, Asama smokes kind of thing.
44:48
I was like, oh, I'll have a time for him.
44:51
And you know, I was about to say, like a smoking dad.
44:55
Why does that appeal to you, Chris?
45:02
Yeah, that's a bad one, that one.
45:05
Yeah, that's the one that I think like ruined me for like a
45:09
couple of weeks. Yeah.
45:12
Did you watch it as it was coming out?
45:15
No, I would have watched it. I'd have.
45:17
I'd have found some sort of a dodgy copy of it, I think.
45:21
Yeah, because I don't remember this being one that I watched on
45:25
Toonami. I feel like this was one I
45:27
watched on computer. Yeah, because I'm sure I think
45:32
there is a Funimation version of it because while I've been
45:37
looking up on Spotify like openings and endings, there's
45:42
always different Funimation ones and it doesn't line up or what
45:46
you've been saying because I'm like, I can't remember that one.
45:49
And then apparently sexy nujutsu is different in the kids one.
45:58
Yeah, I think they do. Cut.
46:00
There's some stuff that gets cut out.
46:04
Yeah, don't. They went looking for nudie mugs
46:07
in the Funimation one. Yeah, probably not.
46:12
They were probably looking for something else.
46:14
Oh, we've got to find books for school.
46:19
Oh I've got a compass set for my ninja class ninja truck and it's
46:25
important. This week we're doing circles.
46:29
That's code for titties. Yeah.
46:37
Do you know? My mum asked me today is, is
46:39
anime club suitable for 11 year olds?
46:41
And I had to be like. Yes, make your own call, but.
46:50
I'd rather I'd rather not encourage children to behave
46:53
like Chris and I. I would this should be this
46:57
should be more it's that act like us.
47:03
No, I don't think the world needs that.
47:07
You've already got 1 mini me. Oh yeah.
47:14
So we had a beautiful time watching Naruto this week.
47:19
Has it inspired you to maybe dip your toe back into a rewatch it?
47:23
Has a it made us realise just how much I missed it And you
47:28
were like, oh, should we do should we do like a watch long
47:31
thing? And I'm currently on my first
47:33
watch through of One Piece and I don't think I can do that
47:36
myself. No, I have to watch one or the
47:39
other. And what One Piece is 1000 and
47:43
odd episodes now? I'm only on episode like 50.
47:50
I'm only on the first day of 17 days.
47:54
Do you know what I do love about narrator though?
47:56
The lack of flashbacks that not in the actual episode.
47:59
The lack. Of.
48:00
Last time because I've been watching one piece, right,
48:03
They'll have the intro, which is absolutely fine.
48:05
I'll have the opening, really catchy, love the song.
48:07
And then after that you'll have two minutes of what happened
48:10
last time on the last episode. And I'm like, I've just watched
48:13
it. But when you're watching like 7
48:15
episodes in a row, you're like, yeah, I don't.
48:19
Need this do you? Are you watching it on the BBC?
48:23
IPlayer, yeah, Yeah, I am. And I think Netflix only have it
48:31
later episodes. That's part of it, yeah.
48:35
The That's entirely fair. It is good.
48:39
I what I like about Naruto is that he shows up to every fight,
48:43
whereas what I've noticed in my One Piece watch and all is the
48:47
number of times that Luffy would just destroy the fight.
48:50
So they, the writers just have to write him out of like the
48:53
first half of whatever conflict they're about to enter.
48:56
So he's always getting lost or falling asleep after a big meal.
49:02
It's just like it's constant. He's the most unreliable
49:05
character in the whole series. Yeah.
49:09
But it is quite funny. So would you say is better Luffy
49:15
or Naruto as a character I. Think that in a lot of ways
49:20
they're very similar in terms of their, like, goofiness.
49:25
Yeah. And like their kind of like,
49:27
good heartedness. I think for me, Naruto's more my
49:32
vibe I think than Luffy. I like Luffy as a character.
49:36
I do think he's a bit Opie and that is boring early on when the
49:39
enemies are, you know, when all he has to do is show up and
49:43
punch someone into a little Ting, it just yeah, exciting.
49:49
Or like swallow or like a, you know, swallow a cannonball or
49:52
something. It just feels a bit like, well,
49:54
give him a challenge and I don't think you see that.
49:58
You don't see him really face challenge for a very long time.
50:02
Like I've gone all the way up to the revolution and I don't think
50:05
I've seen it yet. Right.
50:10
So like that's like in the mid mid 100 or something.
50:14
So it's like a long time before you get pay off of Luffy facing
50:19
like a a worthy adversary. Whereas I think Naruto, his
50:24
ability grows with the series so his enemies get progressively
50:27
harder as he gets progressively stronger and it's more about his
50:32
journey and less about the crew with him.
50:35
Like you do get some great side ensemble characters and you get
50:39
some good episodes that are focused on other characters
50:41
other than Naruto. But in terms of like her main
50:44
character, I think he's a more thought out and more sustaining
50:49
of as a main character. Yeah, OK.
50:53
What about you? It's an opinion M so I'm only 50
50:57
episodes in of one Piece, so I cannot make a a informed
51:05
decision. But now it takes it from me at
51:07
the minute, mainly because of the development, as I say, from
51:12
the second episode where he's sitting down with a hookah, his
51:15
grandson, and he's to say, look, you need to be this all round
51:19
fighter and renowned and respected by everyone.
51:24
And I know that happens kind of in One Piece, but I'm not seeing
51:27
that as much yet. But this time, and I did
51:33
actually put a poll in the Discord today, it hasn't ended
51:37
yet, but the Discord agrees with her.
51:40
Naruto's on top. I haven't voted in this because
51:42
I didn't think I was that informed to do it.
51:45
But yeah, 67% Naruto, 33% Luffy. I think there's, I'm glad that
51:53
Luffy isn't like losing by a landslide.
51:56
I'm like, I, I think there's, they both have legitimate
51:59
reasons to be main characters. You know what I mean?
52:01
Like they're good characters to get behind this for.
52:04
I mean happy. That the discord is.
52:07
I'm also happy that I'm right. Called the Discord.
52:12
My most my most toxic trait? Or is it my need for attention?
52:19
It's hard to say. But to be fair, it's we're not
52:26
saying that one's worse than each other because we're just
52:30
talking about the, yeah, personal preference.
52:33
And I know that one piece found to kind of like Jehovah's
52:37
Witnesses and they'll go at you, I think every time I've one
52:41
piece. Community, that's why I haven't
52:44
talked to anyone. I'm doing a watch along.
52:47
I just know that there are a lot of very passionate fans out
52:50
there and I love that and I don't I'm not here to shit on
52:53
your like thing at all. Like it's great.
52:56
They are so passionate. So I made a post on Instagram
53:00
just saying, look, I'm starting One Piece and I just put a
53:03
picture of like the intro the first episode and like with some
53:07
one piece music behind. But I didn't realize Instagram
53:10
shared the threads and threads is a bit more public and I've
53:15
had like like loads of people just comment and going, oh, get
53:19
in. I'm doing the same.
53:20
It's amazing. I can't wait till you get that
53:22
part and so supportive and it's amazing that that community is
53:25
there. But it's just like whenever you
53:28
say, oh, I'm wondering what anime I should watch.
53:30
You get like 20 people say One Piece and it's like that
53:33
thousand and odd episode is so intimidating.
53:37
It's just like I kind of commit to dinner on a Friday night,
53:42
never mind 1000 episodes or something.
53:45
I know I have to hold you hostage just to do this podcast
53:47
every week. Please don't release a video.
53:54
Fair enough. So you're doing One Piece.
53:57
We're probably not going to cover it on Anime Club, but good
54:00
luck with it and I might mix my One Piece watch along up with
54:06
Naruto to be honest because I enjoyed it so much.
54:09
Going back, I want to at least go through the tuning exams
54:12
because I think that's some really great anime and a really
54:15
great story arc. But what are we doing next week?
54:22
Oh yes. We did say, yeah, I remember now
54:28
little anime called Escafloni, which I've never seen, I don't
54:34
know anything about. So can you give us a quick
54:37
rundown of what it is? Boys with wings, women with
54:43
tarot. Or like actually boys with
54:47
wings, girl with tarot. Tarot isn't that stuff.
54:52
I since say bones are great. No, it's tallow, tallow.
55:06
And also giant Mex sometimes they fight Dragons.
55:11
I think the first episode there's a fire breathing dragon
55:14
that they fight. It is also, and I didn't say
55:17
this when I was talking about it because I know how you feel.
55:20
I think it's I think it's probably an early example of a
55:24
person getting sucked into another magical world.
55:27
It's a guy. It's a isakai.
55:31
That's fine. That's fine, I guess.
55:37
It'll time cost, but I. That's fine, I'll just.
55:42
I'd rather die before next week. I'll, I'll just get this out
55:47
now, right? I do think that it's a guy's
55:49
overdone at the minute and I stand by it.
55:52
I think just. I yeah, I agree with you there's
55:57
and also there are some really good examples of it.
55:59
There are also some very bad examples of it.
56:01
I don't know what you'll think this one is.
56:04
It's an early example of it, right?
56:08
So if nothing else, it's it's establishing a, it's part of
56:15
establishing a genre, I guess. Is this Back to the Future in
56:19
Issachai? A western Issachai, Sort of.
56:27
Maybe it's. Not another world, it's the
56:29
past. I would say time travel doesn't
56:31
count. To be fair right, some of my
56:34
favorite western films are the guys Pagemasters one.
56:39
Remember that. Pagemaster is definite.
56:41
Pagemaster is definitely yeah. That's.
56:45
That's a good anime hot take. Pagemaster is an It's a guy.
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There's also an can you remember all them 80s and 90s films where
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there was a young bullied boy and language in the wardrobe is
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a guy? A line which in the wardrobe,
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Yeah, it isn't. It's a guy, Alice in Wonderland.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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So anyway, with yeah, we're, we're talking, we're talking,
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it's a guy and we're talking giant Mex.
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And the reason I'm suggesting it is more for the Mex than it is
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for the for everything else, because I know that you've said
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that that's one thing that you would like to explore more
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because you haven't seen a lot of last time anime.
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It's Yeah. I mean, I'll be curious to see
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where it comes on your benchmark of between Gundam and other.
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I'm just sorry, I'm just laughing at you saying come.
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But yeah, the only thing I've seen of it is the animation.
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Yeah, we're definitely not for 11 year olds.
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I think we're like PG13 and up. Maybe.
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Just because we're childish doesn't mean we're child
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friendly. Sorry.
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So what else is what else can people see on Nerdy up North
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this this coming week, Chris? No, I'll just get my notes up
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there. And so on Sunday, you can see me
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with them on the Rocky Horror Podcast Show on the Sunday.
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On Monday we've got monsters up north with them Lake Mungo,
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which I've never heard of but it's might be good.
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Yeah, and also a title that just doesn't sound like it should be
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OK. Yeah, So as soon as as soon as I
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saw that, so Paul posted the promo picture for it and I
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changed the background for, you know, the giant gingerbread man
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from Shrek. Yeah.
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Mungo. But then I realized that's
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that's Mungo, isn't it? Yeah, it works anyway.
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And Tuesday we've got top crumps with Van Wilder's party liaison,
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which I haven't seen in years, so that should be fun.
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And then we've got Doomsday. Doomsday, we've got End Game and
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then wonks back after the 20th parties away.
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So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it, fab.
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And we've got, we've got recording to do for with special
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help October projects. Oh yeah, we've got special
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October projects coming, so do subscribe if you like cryptids,
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ghosts and fairy tales. And we're also doing some
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recordings for some special guests for December, but we'll,
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we won't talk about those just yet.
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We'll wait. But the but we've got a very
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exciting month in December coming up as a special ad
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Christmas weekly Advent treat for you all.
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Thank you all so much for coming.
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I've ordered a costume, Chris, don't laugh.
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I'm excited about it. I've got it.
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I've got a dress up box already. Good.
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Thank you all for coming this week, it was so lovely to see
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everyone to be back live. We'll catch you again next, same
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time next week. Don't be an anime, be top anime
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bye.