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This is Vikings United, your ultimate destination for everything Minnesota Vikings.
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Bringing together the most passionate fans, insightful analysts, and dynamic creators from
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This is Vikings Unite.
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Welcome into the Scene Project Sports Network.
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I am Bubba Starts, your host.
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That was purple and gold, our theme song.
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The best theme song in Vikingsdom by far.
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Our guy Prince Walker and Chris Clay.
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Man, that song just gets me fired up.
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Every time.
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Every time.
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I'm still waiting for the for the link to be sent to me, so we'll get it.
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It's gotta be with my ringtone.
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I was just saying that to my son that it's gotta be my ringtone too.
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So well, yeah.
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Go go find it on iTunes or something.
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Prince, help us out here, brother.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Boys, how are
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we doing tonight?
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Coach Cody, Big B, with me as always.
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We got some very special guests coming on the show later tonight as well, but I'm gonna keep
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that a secret for now.
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Coach, got that haircut.
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You're looking sexy as fuck.
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Appreciate it.
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Appreciate it.
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I do could do that.
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I thought when
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he was getting his windshield fixed.
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Yeah.
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No kidding.
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But yeah.
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No.
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It's I it was time for a change.
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Had to get it cut and, you know, look a bit more professional, and, not as homeless.
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And, I don't know.
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It it was, honestly, it was a struggle, just to fit it in my time schedule.
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I ended up being about two minutes late to work, but it was all good.
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It had to happen.
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And that'll just get you on some free overtime.
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It's all good.
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Right.
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B, how you doing, man?
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We had an exciting weekend of football last weekend.
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I know we're gonna talk all about it.
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Did you do anything special, did you just get frozen in the house?
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Yeah.
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Get frozen.
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Now worked.
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Caught some of the games at work, at home.
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God, what a what a difference that Broncos Patriots game was towards the end of the third
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quarter, fourth quarter.
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Clear skies or, you know, some snow, and then you blink and there's a blizzard happening and
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stuff like that.
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So definitely excited footballs, coaching, signing, players, you know, doing their thing.
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Sadira Sanders somehow became a pro baller before me, Bubba, and Cody did.
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So I don't know how that happened, but yeah.
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I know.
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I'm already talking to people.
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Before me and you, B, but before Cody, that's unreal.
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I know.
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I mean, I could swing it around a little bit, but maybe not like I used to in high school,
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but yeah.
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Definitely, you know, it was shocking when I saw the news.
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So
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Yeah.
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It was crazy.
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That broncos patriots game, that ending, just with the weather, that's what I've dreamed
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about.
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I can't wait.
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It's gonna happen.
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Oh, man.
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Just coaching on that sideline during the snowstorm, another better.
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Yeah.
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The action on the field too.
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I mean, a lot closer than probably a lot of people were thinking it was going to be.
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The broncos, damn near, pulled it off with a backup QB who's made, what, like, four starts
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in his career or something?
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Was that what it was?
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Something like that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Four starts.
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That's wild, man.
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Like, your your fifth start in the NFL is in a packed stadium in mid January.
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He handled it well, though.
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Yeah.
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Decently well.
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Well, he's good.
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Good.
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He's
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He's playing a new game.
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Yep.
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He's wild.
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We're not gonna get away from a mention in Sam Darnold and the game that he had in the NFC
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championship game.
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My goodness.
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A lot lot of tears shed in Minnesota this weekend watching that one.
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Good for him.
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I mean, you know, it was it was a good game.
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I'm proud of him.
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He's come a long ways.
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I mean, you know, he got drafted by, you know, what, the Jets first and, you know, you just
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been moving around and finally got into the right offense last year, moved over to Seattle.
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You know, again, the right office, right players, and you do your thing.
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You got that monkey off your back that you can't win the big one.
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So props to him.
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Yeah.
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It's a little heartbreaking, but, you know, there's a lot of fans that, you know, think
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that we could have done it with them.
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I you know, maybe, but I I don't know.
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I mean, that offensive line, you know, wasn't really consistent enough.
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So but, you know, hopefully, he takes it all the way and and gets that MVP.
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Yes, sir.
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I was texting with Wrap today.
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He's gonna join us a little bit later in the show, but, really thrilled to have, another
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Vikings content creator on with us.
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That's what Vikings United is all about.
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It's not just about the three guys that you see here every week.
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I mean, Bee has his own Joe as well over on the coast to coast entertainment network.
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It's about putting creators together, talking ball, and, we plan to do a lot more of that in
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the future too.
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So shout out to you, Dylan.
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Thanks for, joining the show tonight.
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We appreciate you being in here.
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Rap will be with us towards the bottom of the hour, man.
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We're looking forward to getting his takes.
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I know he's gonna have some some hot Sam Darnold talk to get into, so I don't wanna
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cover everything too much.
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Coach, what I would like to talk about is, like, the player development side of that.
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Right?
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Like, Sam looks like a different guy this year than he did last year playing in it.
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Do systems matter?
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Yes.
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Systems matter a ton.
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The personnel that you have, surrounding him, you know, that plays a part in it.
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And just, the overall confidence that you have in that, player, when it comes to Sam Darnold,
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I mean, you know, the when he was with the Vikings, yeah, we were winning games, but
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people weren't really believing in him.
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You know, we were just waiting for that one game where he's gonna fall off, and then we
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were gonna just be like, okay.
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This will be expected.
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But after that year, you know, he comes into Seattle, and they're like, hey.
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Yeah.
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You are our guy, and we know we what you can do.
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Now let's go do it.
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And, you know, they're putting them in a perfect scenarios, perfect situations, and it
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and it helps when, you know, you use your running game.
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Yeah.
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And coming from Sam's perspective, I mean, everyone has doubted him since he came in the
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league.
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Right?
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Everyone is always yeah.
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Not really there.
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I mean, even when he was drafted, what was it, third overall?
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Yep.
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That there was a lot of talk of, well, he just, you know, doesn't really have it.
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And and it's been that his whole career.
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And even in last year, Guy caught a lot of strays in that loss.
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And I would say, you know, some deserved, some not so much, but you can't always throw
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everything on the quarterback's shoulders.
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And now being in a place where it's you know, if he makes one mistake, it doesn't feel like
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the, you know, the sky is falling, and the coaching staff can readjust a little bit and
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say, okay.
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Well, we're gonna go and, we're gonna help you.
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You know, what does that do for a player's confidence even inside of the game while you're
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going?
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You know, it's all it makes the world, makes all the difference.
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Just, you know, knowing that, you know, they that the team and the organization has your
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back no matter what.
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If things don't go, you know, right the first time, they're gonna figure it out.
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They're not gonna just throw you off to the side and start fresh and find something else.
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You know, they're gonna stick with you.
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And I just feel like he didn't really have that when the with us.
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Yeah.
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And I know that you can't always see, like, the looks on your coach's face maybe on the field,
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but they're watching TV copies of these games.
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He's seeing the looks on KOC's face when maybe he didn't make the right read or he didn't do
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it, and you don't know what's going on behind closed doors.
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You know, there there's talk that offers were made, you know, to Sam that were comparable to
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what he took in Seattle.
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And it was, you know, from what I had understood early in the season this year was
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that he kinda made the choice to go to Seattle.
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Maybe the deal was a little bit sweeter or whatever, but he had an option to stay.
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It's not like they made him no offer at all.
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I wonder if inside of his head that he's not looking back at his relationship with the
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coaching staff and going, look.
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At the end of the day, they're putting this shit all on me if it goes wrong, and nobody's
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taking any accountability for their own actions.
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And I think you saw a lot of that from KOC even through this season where they were constantly
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putting it on their young quarterback and not taking accountability until it was, you know,
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week 12 and you put Brosmer out there for the debacle in Seattle.
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Yeah.
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I mean, he's just he's put in a way better position right now, you know, as a position
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just to succeed.
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You know, they put pieces around him, you know, a better offensive line.
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That probably was a difference maker too, Not just having that sense of, hey.
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I got my starting five linemen, and they're gonna be set.
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I don't have to worry about moving pieces every week multiple times a week.
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So, I mean, that has to play
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a part in it.
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You know?
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I just feel like the coaching staff in general, better over there in certain with certain
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coaches.
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But, I mean, who knows?
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I just I'm I'm happy for them.
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I mean, man, going from, you know, a high draft pick, would you say, three three third round or
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third overall?
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Mhmm.
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Yeah.
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Going from a high draft pick, people calling you potential bust, you know, this whole seeing
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ghost, and then you flip it around.
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Potentially, you're gonna mess around and win Super Bowl and MVP over here.
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So, I mean, hats off to him.
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Doesn't give up.
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Doesn't
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Dude's got almost 30 wins in the last two seasons.
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Yeah.
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Exact yeah.
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And I saw I saw a graphic.
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He was the first quarterback in that draft class to make a make it to the Super Bowl,
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ahead of, Lamar and, Josh Allen, and there was a few others.
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But I'm like, damn.
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Like, do your thing, Sam.
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Do your thing.
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Bee, what's your feeling on the, you know, if if Darnold was here, the Vikings would be in
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the Super Bowl, and I can't like, what what's your take?
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I I'd love to hear it.
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I mean, you you wanna think that, yeah, they coulda ran it back.
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But the way the offensive line played this year, not protecting, you know, watching Wentz
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get demolished in in with the chargers game.
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I know.
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JJ going down with, you know, his little injuries.
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It it's tough to say.
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I I I think we would have been a better team offensively.
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You know, maybe we maybe we signed some different players.
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Maybe we'd make a move here at the trade deadline or something.
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But, again, it's it's that what if.
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You know, I just look at it that we didn't have a solid running game.
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We didn't have a solid offensive line.
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I don't think we probably would have made the playoffs, you know, with that one game that we
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kinda missed out on.
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I just don't know if Darnell puts up the same numbers that he did, you know, rushing it, you
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know, and stuff like that.
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And I know there's gonna be a lot of people that will probably message me and say, oh,
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you're wrong.
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You know?
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You know, Vikings would have been a better team.
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I mean, you know, I mean, they're saying that beginning of the year when Daniel Jones was
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doing his thing in in the, you know, San Bernardino, Seattle, and, you know, it's just
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hard to say that they would have done it here because the office line was different.
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No running game.
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Yeah.
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We got, you know, the best receiver that, you know, barely got a thousand yards this year.
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I mean, we had to push push that drive.
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So but, you know, like Cody said, props to him.
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Hopefully, he goes out, you know, trips and wins the MVP and wins the Super Bowl and, you
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know, and we're gonna be talking about it forever that, you know, he took two fourteen
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and, you know, two teams to the playoffs and, you know, the first person to do that, two
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separate teams back to back here.
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So, you know, good luck for him.
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Too.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I to me, and he said all the right things.
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You know, he he's never tried to take any shots at the Vikings organization throughout this
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whole year.
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He's been a really class class act through the entire thing, playing the best ball of his
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career by far.
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You know, they really put it on him this year.
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So like you said, wish him the best.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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But you know he's sitting in there looking in his mirror and talking trash about how the
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Vikings let him walk.
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I mean, you know, we all do that when somebody lets us know.
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I I don't subscribe to the fact that they just let him walk.
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I think there was an offer.
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Right?
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And from reports that there was an offer, and Sam chose to walk.
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Right?
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So it's it's the other way around that him and his agent and his team looked at the Vikings as
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a team, looked at the way that he was getting treated by Vikings media, possibly by the staff
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behind the scenes, and went, we don't think your team's gonna be that good next year.
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And we have this Seattle team that we're looking at with a coach like McDonald's and
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and, obviously, you know, his first opening speech to his guys, you know, before not this
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season, but his first Yeah.
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You know, meeting with the team.
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And, you know, they're going into meetings with that coach too and going, I like this guy.
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Right?
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Mhmm.
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I I he he's taking accountability, and he's has a vision for his team and what he's trying to
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build.
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We believe in him more than we believe in this Vikings team.
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That is the damning thing to me.
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Not that you let Sam walk, that Sam chose to walk away from you after winning 14 games.
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Right?
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Like, that to me is almost more damning than, you know, a front office that didn't make a
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thing.
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Because nobody was believing in Sam Darnold at the end of last year, and only because the
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seahawks have done what they've done this year are we even having this conversation.
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Well, exactly.
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And maybe, coach, Cody can, you know, kinda dive into the numbers of it.
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But, I mean, if if we offered you know, because it's been rumored that we offered pretty much
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the same thing that Seattle offer years wise and dollars.
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You know, Cody would have been a good bargaining tool to maybe okay.
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Let's up with a couple million or let's add another year.
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I mean, what goes to the mindset behind the doors when, you know, you get that close?
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You want that quarterback back, but, you know, he wants to walk.
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I mean, what what's your thoughts?
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I mean, it's tough because, you know, it's how far you wanna go.
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You know, how far are you willing to push it and how far is he willing to make you push it.
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So, but at least, you know, at at least throw it out there like, hey.
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What about would another year help out?
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Would another cup couple million help out?
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Like, what would it take?
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Just to get an idea what that number would be and then work from there.
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Yeah.
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You know, he might he might tell you the honest number.
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He might not, but, you know, just to get an idea.
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Mhmm.
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And the thing is too is, you know, at the end of the year, a lot of fans were already
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talking.
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Hey.
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We need to move on, you know, granted the game didn't turn out the way we wanted, but they
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wanted a young quarterback.
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They wanted the the Vikings to go out and draft, you know, a quarterback that draft.
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They draft McDonald or McCarthy.
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You know?
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So the Vikings fans wanted this, and, of course, it didn't turn out the way it is.
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So it is easy, like Bubba said, to look back and be like, yeah.
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We shouldn't have signed Arnold.
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You know, it would have been different.
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You know?
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Maybe another year, you know, so it's the whole one up game.
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We love talking about it.
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Three year deal, you're pretty much canning McCarthy behind him that entire time.
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And why the hell did you waste the top 10 pick on a quarterback then?
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Yeah.
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Right?
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So Yeah.
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Change the subject to it regardless.
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Well, exactly.
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Yeah.
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You're you're kinda damned if you did, damned if you didn't.
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Mhmm.
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Right?
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Where because if you go out, you sign him to this deal even if it's got a quick out, which
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it sounds like the deal did this year where it had a team option on the second and third year
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anyway, that if it went tits up this year again.
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But even if you had a year like you did this year where you won, you were above 500, you
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just missed the playoffs, then you're almost in a worse spot because you're like, well, what do
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we do?
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Right?
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Like, you do now do we start the young guy and we have Sam, but now we're gonna owe him, you
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know, you know, 40 or $50,000,000.
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I you know what I mean?
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Like, his his contract, should the team keep him in Seattle next year, is a hefty one.
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Right?
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I think it's 30 plus million, you know, on the books.
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Now that's probably a lot of, you know, incentive laden and, you know, signing bonuses
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and stuff to that.
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But it was going to be something that was going to look worse as time went on, especially if
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you weren't getting back to that, you know, that second, third round of the playoffs.
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Mhmm.
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So, yeah, it's, 36,000,000.
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The cap hit, 27 of it is cash, and the rest is, you know, like you said, is, you know,
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incentives and stuff.
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So Okay.
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And and this team this team's already you know, the Vikings that is is already up against it
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with the cap.
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Now I think there's a couple of simple moves they can make.
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Obviously, Hawkinson's, you know, injury and then the production just completely falling off
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the table is gonna make him, you know, I would assume a cap casualty soon or possibly a
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restructure in there possible, but they're not paying him what that contract is saying.
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You know, the Hargrave, it seems like Allen's is pretty much unmovable.
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You don't really say it much, but Hargrave's done.
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So there's a way to get, like, to the cap by cutting guys, but then you can't go out and
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sign a bunch more either.
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Right?
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Like, that's kinda we're in the position now and why the, you know, the very poor drafting
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that that Quasi has done or just young guys that you let go.
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What's Neshon that went over to the bears, right, as a pro bowler, as an all pros?
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Like, was a guy that was on your practice squad.
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You have so many players that were on this team a year ago that have gone on to other teams.
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Couple of them playing in the Super Bowl right now or were playing in the championship games
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last weekend that either your coaching staff couldn't develop properly or you just didn't,
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you know, identify your talent in house.
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It's just there's a lot of malpractice right now, and it's I I'm honestly surprised that a
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lot of these front office people still have jobs and are moving forward with kinda status
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quo.
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And I guess we're kinda burying the lead.
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Since we talked last time, guys, Bflow got a contract extension.
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I was wondering when you're gonna write that in there.
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I mean, there's still an out clause in there, but they're the the spots are very, very
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limited.
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I mean, what are we down to?
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The browns and the raiders?
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Oh, browns, raiders, cardinals, I believe.
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Yeah.
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He's not leaving to any of those.
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I know.
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And I think for him that it might have been Steelers or Bust.
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Right?
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And once it kinda seemed like they were leaning McCarthy or McCarthy was going all in on that
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one, that you signed the deal.
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And you had texted me, and, you know, obviously, he has the out for the head
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coaching, but he doesn't sign that unless he's, like, feeling that Yeah.
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Where he wants to go isn't happening.
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Right?
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And What's the hour?
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That he could've took a hour.
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Yeah.
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Oh, he could he yeah.
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If he if he was to take a job as a head coach, he can get the out.
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If he takes the job as a coordinator, then I think we get you know, you would have to do a
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trade or something on it.
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So
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Yeah.
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There would be at least draft pick compensation of some sort.
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Nice.
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But, yeah, I don't think he was ever going anywhere else to be a DC.
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I think he is happy here.
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I think that's something we alluded to a lot.
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He ended up with the commander's DC job, though, right before he signed that extension.
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Well, hell, yeah.
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He put it on him.
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Right?
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He put it in bargaining chip.
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It sounds like he's gonna be the highest paid coordinator in the league, which I would say
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deservedly so.
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He probably saved your damn season and made it look successful because the offense was as
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atrocious as it was.
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And there's our guy.
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Right on, man.
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I'll bring him in here.
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We got Rap joining us, fellas.
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Alright.
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Alright.
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Alright.
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What happened?
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My brother Rap.
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Welcome to the show, man.
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Man, what's up?
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What's up, fellas?
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Appreciate y'all having me on for sure.
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Man, the pleasure's all ours, dude.
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You've been, you've been at this for a long time.
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Got a, big platform of your own, and I appreciate you taking some time for us tonight
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and jumping on with us.
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We were just talking BFLOW's extension.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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No.
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I'm excited.
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I'm excited.
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I think it was the right thing.
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It was the right thing to do, man.
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Beef flow's extension.
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Did they say how many years it was or no?
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I was just looking.
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Let's see here.
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I know I know they don't normally give out a I signed a three year deal.
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Three year.
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So to match KOCs then.
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Yeah.
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Know.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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So now you got everybody till '29.
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Everybody's on the same, you know, on the same timeline now.
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And at this point, it's Super Bowl or bust.
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Right?
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Like, yeah, to me, it has to be.
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I I don't see any other way that you can look at it that they are saying, okay.
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You guys got the next three years to show us what the hell you got, or I I think it may be
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wholesale changes at that point.
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Quasi might still be on the hot seat next year if this draft is just atrocious again.
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You got 10 picks, and you have to you had a lot of holes, not just holes on the starting line,
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but you need depth on this team badly.
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And and you've really missed or or let go.
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You know, we were kinda touching on the fact that you got guys that were on this team last
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year that are now all pros that are playing in the Super Bowl or were playing in, you know,
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the AFC NFC championship games.
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We talked a lot about Sam Darnold, earlier in the show, but I'd love to go ahead and start
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with your your Sam Darnold takes rap, and, let's get that out of the way.
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Yeah, man.
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So I I still feel like we we made the right move, honestly, like, in my opinion.
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I I think, you know, just based off of Kevin O'Connell, Kwesi committing to JJ McCarthy in
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the draft with a top pick being the tenth pick in the draft.
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I mean, you had to do it.
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You know?
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Nobody really could've nobody really saw this coming of him making the Super Bowl.
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And another thing too is, like, the seahawks are coached better than us in my opinion.
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Like, they just they're I mean, their defense, they they've drafted well the past couple
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years.
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They have players flying around the field.
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We're not the seahawks.
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So it's not like just because we woulda had Sam Darnold in 2025 that we would be playing in the
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Super Bowl.
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I don't think that would be the case.
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You know?
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He I'm not saying he wouldn't had a good season, but, you know, I don't think we would
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have been a Super Bowl contender with Sam Donald this year.
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So it it to me, it's like, hey.
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Happy form.
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Happy form.
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I I think we need to just focus on who we have on the roster, and that's JJ.
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We gotta we gotta buckle up and go through the hard times.
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That's what it is.
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I couldn't agree more, and I think everybody here is kind of in the same boat.
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I I guess I kinda skipped over introductions.
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Now you are a man who does not need one, but I wanna introduce you to our crew.
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I am Bubba Starts, the host of the Scene Projects Sports Network and executive producer
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of the Scene Projects.
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That's my man, coach Cody, up there in the top corner.
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Cody is the former GM and coach of the Saint Paul Bears On his shirt there, he's now the
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assistant head coach and defensive coordinator for the Wyoming cavalry, some indoor football
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league action.
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So he brings kind of our expert, you know, analysis into the table.
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And big b, my man, Brandon Herrera here is from the coast to coast entertainment network.
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He's got another, you know, football show that I've been a guest on as well.
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So, yeah, man.
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Just wanna kinda introduce you to the crew.
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And Nice.
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Nice.
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Yeah, man.
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We we've
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So is your so Bubba Starts is your favorite rapper Bubba Sparks?
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Like, is that where you I mean, I'm That's got that from?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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No.
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No.
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I was just I'm like like, when I first seen it, I'm like, yo.
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Oh, Bubba.
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Bubba.
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Reason.
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Well, right.
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So Star Starts is our last name.
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I've been Bubba my whole life.
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I was actually born in Tennessee.
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Right?
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So when Bubba Sparks became big, I was just like, man, that guy.
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So I just try because that's your whole life.
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Right?
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For the last twenty five years of my life, it's been, oh, like Bubba Sparks.
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No.
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Funny thing is the last time well, not the last time I was in Tennessee, but the last time I
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was at the place where I was born, my I was born in the town my dad went to college to.
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Little ass town, man.
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We went back for his homecoming, and we were partying at one of the frats.
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And who the hell was performing?
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Bubba Bubba Sparks.
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Like, get So is
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it kinda like that building office space?
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Is it kinda like that bit a bit where, oh, you're I can't even think of that guy's name
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now.
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But yeah.
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No.
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It is that posting
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a link in the Discord so you get some people over here, man.
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Come tap me us.
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Oh, man.
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Yeah.
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We appreciate it.
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Woah.
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Yeah.
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Appreciate it, man.
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Less less than a 100 subscribers on our network.
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My well, mostly what I do rap is music related.
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I am a songwriter myself, and then Nice.
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This last year I did music too for a long time, man.
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Awesome, man.
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Yeah.
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So songwriter, and then I just started interviewing other songwriters.
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Got, like, 500 artists that I've interviewed in the last two years.
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Nice.
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Won the content creator of the year award from the Midwest Country Music Organization Okay.
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Based out of Minneapolis and around in the Upper Midwest here.
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So mostly did my thing over in the music world, but I fucking love sports, man.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I was like, well, instead of trying to, like, build something into the music channel,
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was just like, I'll just start another YouTube channel.
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Right?
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Like, it's nothing to me.
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And so, yeah, we started the scene project sports network, SPSN.
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Mostly what I was covering was, like, our high school football team.
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I was doing a coaches show with my high school football coach every week and just hanging out,
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and we'd throw some highlights up on the screen, and he would go through the plays.
31:48
And then my relationship with Cody and with the Viking World Order crew, you know, Darth Viking
31:54
Shout out VWO.
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Picasso.
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Yeah, man.
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Love the VWO.
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Well, we were at the Whiteout game we were at the Whiteout game not this season, but last
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season.
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And, man, I just fell in love with everything that they're about, supporting charities.
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The way that they bring it to the fan like, they're fans themselves, but they become part
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of the show.
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And I was like, I wanna cover you all.
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Like, I wanna figure out something to do, and, that's kinda how everything just kept on
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developing.
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And because I'm so much about, like, other creators that
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Yeah.
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Just having a show like Vikings United where it's not just about us and our takes, it's
32:27
about bringing in the other independent creators like yourself and and a lot of other
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people that are out there doing fan, you know, fan shows like this.
32:35
So, yeah, really grateful to have guys like you out there because we all got something to say.
32:40
Right?
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And we all have our own platform, but it's nice to be able to come together and to kinda cross
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promote each other's channels.
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And, like, we all care about one thing, and that's Vikings football.
32:50
So let's get together and rap about it, no pun intended, as much as we can.
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Yeah.
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No.
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For sure.
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Shout out shout out VWO.
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You know, we do we we go to their event every year too for the home opener, and then they
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also come to our event because we throw an event called Skullfest every home opener too.
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You know?
33:06
So we we all we like sir Deff is somebody who we have strong connections with that he he
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comes to our event every year.
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Shout out to him, man.
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All of all
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of them.
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Shout out to Carl for sure.
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Oh, man.
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He's the man.
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Right here.
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Matter of fact, speaking of that VW, I got a patch right here that I got from Ellen.
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I don't know if you know, Lady Legion.
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Yeah.
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Is that one from the Ravens game this year?
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I got one of those too, dawg.
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Yeah.
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That's good.
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Sitting over on my table, man.
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I was I was there.
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So that was kinda my first you know, we had been to the tailgate, like I said, last season
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for the whiteout game.
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But this year, because I have operation combating veteran suicide on the marketing and
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PR director for and have close ties to that, I wanted to be in Minnesota.
33:48
So I actually came from Nashville.
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I was down there covering a big music award show called the Josie Music Awards.
33:54
I flew from Nashville to Wisconsin where I had left my truck and drove up to drove up to
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Minneapolis, played a show on Saturday night, woke up on Sunday, and went to the tailgate,
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and then ended up going into the game too for that.
34:08
That was fucked.
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Yeah.
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I was in 01:40 watching watching the debacle.
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That was that was the game we had, like, 13 offensive penalties or something.
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Yeah.
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Oh, yeah.
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Ugly.
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Man, it sucked.
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That's what's up, man.
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Shout out shout out to you, man.
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You moving in.
34:23
You moving and grooving, man.
34:24
I like it.
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I let it hear.
34:25
Let it hear, man.
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You gotta you gotta you definitely got a knowledgeable panel here, man.
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You know?
34:30
So I I'm grateful to be on here, and, you know, I'm I'm ready to talk some football, man.
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Let's get to it.
34:36
Awesome.
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Awesome.
34:37
Well, yeah, we were just starting to kind of, touch on, like I said, the b flow extension.
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You know, I I kinda felt like it was gonna get done.
34:47
We really assumed that there was, you know, only a couple of spots, maybe the Ravens and
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Pittsburgh kinda being the two landing spots that made sense for him.
34:56
Obviously, with the Ravens, you know, kinda coming off the board and then the Steelers job
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looking like it was Lena McCarthy and then him taking an interview with the commanders for the
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DC job.
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It seemed inevitable that, like, if the Vikings weren't out to keep him, it's time to put your
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chips on the table and and get it done.
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So glad to see they did this last week.
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Yeah, man.
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Me too.
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I think it was the right thing.
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And then congratulations to Durante, you know, getting his opportunity.
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So, you know, and good for him.
35:25
I I think I like, the sign for that was if Bflow did get a job opportunity, I believe they
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probably were just going to elevate him.
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That Yeah.
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I mean, I didn't know he was so sought after, but, I mean, obviously, teams wanted him.
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And he
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Talking about the DB coach?
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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Deronte Jones.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Yep.
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Yeah.
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So shout out to him, man.
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Cody, nice.
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Hey, man.
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We got your, got your crew dipping in here too, man.
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We we appreciate it.
35:56
We appreciate everybody.
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You bring us all.
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Everybody's here, man.
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I love it.
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You bring the whole damn
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squad with you, man.
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Let's go.
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I wanna get I wanna get Rap's opinion
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for you.
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They're coming in hot.
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There we go.
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Let's go, man.
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Let's get
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it.
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Let's Let's get it.
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Us three have talked about it, but I wanna get I wanna get Rap's opinion.
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Does Harrison Smith come back?
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No.
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Let B flows back.
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Man, so we were talking in my Discord, you know, the Vocal Bike Discord.
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We were talking about maybe Harrison Smith coming back as a as a coach, man.
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Like, I think that would be interesting.
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You know?
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Like, honestly, I think I I think that would be interesting.
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That to me to me, it just makes sense.
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I don't think he should come back as a player, if that's what you're asking my opinion on
36:43
that.
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I don't think he should come back as a player.
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I think you know, he did hit his stride at the end of the at the end of the season.
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I'll give him that.
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Like, he did seem like he was getting back, and it all goes back to that kind of mystery injury
36:54
he had at the beginning if y'all remember.
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Yeah.
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Where he was out for a little while.
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I was like, yo.
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What is it?
36:59
You know?
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Like, what what's up with him?
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And then when he came back, he just seemed lethargic.
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We still don't know the answer to it.
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But, you know, but then towards the end of the season, he started playing like, hold up.
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Maybe he can't go one more year.
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I just think he needs to go out, you know, he he needs to go out with grace, man.
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Just go ahead and hang hang the cleats up, but yet stick around the organization and maybe be
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still an impactful person to the team, which DB coach or whatever wherever they can fit him in
37:25
there, I mean, get him in there.
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I if he's willing to do it, I think that would be interesting.
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Yeah.
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Well, that that DB coach is open now.
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I'm saying and that that's and that's what I'm saying, Cody.
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Like, look.
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Hey.
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Doronte Jones is out of there.
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I mean, if you go and talk and KO see them, they adore Harrison Harrison Smith.
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You know, everybody does, right, in in Minnesota.
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I mean, he's he's a darling to all of us fans.
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So, like, it's one of those deals where, hey.
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That could be easy.
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I mean, you can't tell me he doesn't know about the game.
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You know?
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He's played it so long.
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You can't tell me he don't know the x's and o's and where this player should be and that player
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to be should be.
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So for as a defensive pass, the defensive pass coach or whatever it was.
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Hey.
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Look, man.
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I think that sounds like a fit to me.
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You know?
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Yeah.
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So I definitely wish the Vikings to bring that guy back that's over your right shoulder there
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in some capacity to help out the young receivers there.
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And our Randy Moss.
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Yeah.
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So that's how so, you know, real quick, that's how I became a Vikings fan just so everybody
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knows.
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You know, Randy Moss is the reason I became a Vikings fan.
38:23
You know, if it wasn't for him, I wouldn't be on this show right now.
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So that's shout out to him.
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You know?
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Love that dude.
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Yeah, man.
38:30
Shout out shout out to him.
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You know?
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That's, that's the reason.
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No.
38:35
Something we talked about, the last couple of weeks has been the leadership, and kinda losing
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your CJ Hamm, who'd been around for a long time, and losing Harrison off the field in a
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year where regardless of its if it's people on the team or it's people coming in, this team is
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gonna look a lot different.
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You need a lot of younger, newer talent.
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This team has to get younger.
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And where's that leadership gonna come from?
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And to have such a trusted voice in Harrison Smith, I think finding any way you can to keep
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him around the team is a smart move.
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And and whether that's, you know, just as a special assistant to be flow.
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Right?
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Or it's like, you create a role for a guy like that if he's not gonna be out there on the
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field.
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And and I think that you have to do that.
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I really liked, I liked what they were doing at the end of the year, and I know that it was
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kind of because of injury.
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But, having, was it Byron Murphy they were putting back there?
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Or not Murphy, but the, once they moved Mattelis, and it wasn't Mattelis back there
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deep anymore.
39:41
I I like to train Ward?
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Yeah.
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Jay Ward.
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Back there as well.
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And, yeah, I I think you have some pieces to move around in the defensive backs where you
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can maybe move one of your cornerbacks deeper and be able to, like, go sign a younger
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cornerback.
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But you got holes, man.
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This defense is is gonna need a revamp.
40:05
And, like, Bflow, we set it from the end of the season.
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That was, like, free agent number one.
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Like, you gotta figure that out first or the rest of it's kind of a moot point anyway.
40:15
Right.
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No.
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For sure.
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I agree.
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100%.
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100%.
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Yeah.
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They they definitely we got some moves to be made, man.
40:22
And so, like, another thing too, I'm I'm curious to know about the draft because, you
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know, we I did a I did the first mock of the year last I think it was last night on my
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channel, actually.
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And a lot of us were going towards deep defensive back, whether that was a corner.
40:39
I mean, all of us want want the boy Caleb Downs, but then we had D'Angelo Ponds,
40:44
obviously.
40:44
So, you know, I kinda wanna know what you guys think about that too with the draft.
40:48
Like, what position should we go?
40:49
Because it's always seems like seems like every year DB is always in the conversation, though,
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in the first round.
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And I don't know if Kwasey I don't know if they're gonna pull the trigger on that, but I I
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say why not, especially if Caleb Downs falls that far, which I doubt, but, you know, just
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just for itch and giggles.
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You know?
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I mean, I if if Downs Caleb Downs, if he falls down that far, I'm taking him.
41:15
No no hesitation.
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But, I mean, Beflow doesn't really, mess with, young corners that often.
41:24
You know?
41:24
He's he doesn't he just doesn't really give them a chance.
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So I don't know.
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I'm kinda hesitant to spend a first round draft pick, even a second round draft pick on a
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corner until I see different, but it would have to be a hell of a player.
41:41
Yeah.
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You got a point.
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I mean, yeah, it'd be nice to get a DB.
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I mean, there's there's a lot of things that the Vikings could do in the first round.
41:51
You know, I'd I'd like to see him get a stud running back.
41:55
If love falls, I'd like to see that happen.
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I'm open to almost any position.
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If we can get the number one or number two ranked player depending on whose board you're
42:06
watching, I'm all for it.
42:09
But, yeah, I think I think you guys are right though that Mike has kinda stayed away from
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draft to DB, especially after what happened with what's that guy we dropped a couple years
42:21
ago that got hurt right away.
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Louis scene.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Louis.
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You can't you can't, you know, stay away from it because it happened to one guy.
42:31
I mean, you know?
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So, hopefully, they do their homework this year and let's let's hit that first, you know, home
42:39
run right out of the park in the first round there.
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Yeah.
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For sure.
42:44
I can't.
42:45
I am just laughing.
42:46
Andre is
42:47
the absolute KOC eight club for founder.
42:51
I am
42:52
just I am laughing because we talked a lot about it during the season just like his lack
42:56
of accountability and, the kind of, you know that bugged me a little bit because this was a
43:04
guy who I had a lot of faith in him.
43:06
You know, coach of the year, you saw a lot of things you liked when things were going well.
43:11
And then when things were going bad, his willingness to just, like, throw his guys under
43:15
the bus and and not take any accountability for his shitty play calling, like, was extremely
43:22
frustrating from a fan point.
43:24
Right?
43:25
Where it's just like, come on, man.
43:26
Like, you're throwing the ball 50 times with a guy who not only is a rookie playing some of
43:31
his first games, but he didn't play all of last season.
43:34
Not only did he not play, he didn't practice.
43:36
Like, what are you doing?
43:38
So I'm you know what, Andre?
43:40
You are you are completely, you know, entitled to that role.
43:45
I I think I think you see it the heat's gonna get turned up.
43:49
If this Vikings offense looks as bad as it did this year or, you know, this next season as it
43:55
did this year, he could be seeing the door.
43:58
Right?
43:58
And and it could be B Flo's team at the end of, you know, at the beginning of next off season.
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Who knows?
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Man, they keep the chat popping.
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I fucking love your fans, rap.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
44:09
Got them
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in.
44:09
I'm loving it.
44:10
Shared it.
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I wanted that.
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I you know, I was just making sure it was good with you because I know if I shared it on my
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channel.
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Bring out great content each and every week, so make sure you're there.
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And you already know I'm a be in the chat from now on too, man, supporting you guys.
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So Yeah.
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We appreciate that, man.
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Yeah.
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Absolutely.
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Nice to connect with with other people.
44:36
Right?
44:36
Get all these takes out here.
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Like, this is how we talk it out.
44:38
Like, I live in South Dakota, rap, so I don't I don't like
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I live in South Carolina.
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Yeah.
44:44
I thought it was Really?
44:45
No.
44:45
Oh, damn.
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You know?
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We we we don't have a lot of people.
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Like, this is how we engage with other fans.
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Right?
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Like, I don't have a bar to go to that's full of fans of this team.
44:57
So this is what we have.
44:59
And, yeah, I love it, man.
45:00
I love it.
45:01
How's the weather in South Carolina?
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Did you get some of that snow and ice this last weekend?
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We didn't.
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It was actually really nice.
45:06
We were still in the fifties.
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We we just missed it because I live on the coast, like the Southern Coast.
45:10
It's a 100 degree difference from what me and Cody were
45:14
in last week.
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I'm I'm close I'm closer to, like, Florida.
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Like, I'm down at the bottom of South Carolina on the coast, like, right on the ocean.
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So, like, it's like, we we we miss we always miss out on the cold fronts that swoop through
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and stuff like that.
45:27
You know?
45:27
We have more tropical weather.
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But I looked at the news, you know, and and it says this weekend, there's a possibility we
45:34
might get some.
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So we'll see.
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You know, when when we get snow in my city, because I'm from Charleston, South Carolina,
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when we get snow where I'm at, I mean, it it, like, shuts down, bro.
45:42
You get one snowflake.
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That's all you need.
45:44
One snowflake.
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You know what mean?
45:45
It don't even got a stick.
45:46
It just need to be coming down and everything closes down.
45:50
We'll start Cody down there with his truck so he'll plow you guys out.
45:54
Yeah.
45:54
Like, hey.
45:54
We we panic around here, man.
45:56
If it gets if it gets 30 sometimes even here I mean, if it's if it's, like, you know, the low
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32 degrees, they close schools down and stuff.
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Pop, I'm with you.
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Schools.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I I know that, Bee's Bee's in with you, Pop.
46:10
He he's, right there on the Jeremiah Love train.
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Jeremiah Love.
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I don't think he's gonna be there, man.
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Somebody's gonna take somebody's gonna take him before.
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Where are we picking?
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Is it eighteen?
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18.
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18.
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See, what do you think, Raf?
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And I'll Cody, I'll kinda toss this to you too.
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I mean, because you're in that spot, are you entertaining offers to trade back and maybe
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pick up an extra second round pick, you know, going back to 2021?
46:35
Oh, go ahead, Cody.
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You go first.
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Oh, I mean, if my first two options aren't available, I'm not gonna reach for somebody.
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I'm probably gonna look.
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You know, if I if I can get a second and, you know, some later rounds that I can package to
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get back up until, like, the third, I'll do that.
46:57
If I can get a first for next year, I might even do that.
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I know a lot of Vikings fans would be pissed off about that.
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You know, depending on, you know, how much that pick is actually worth, like, the value of it,
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And we might even be able to get, like, a first this, first next year and a second this year or
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something.
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You know, I I would be looking, though.
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I mean, you're kinda in the in the middle of that first round.
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You're still gonna get a dog, but, you know, they're gonna your first two options are gonna
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start picking off the board real quick by then Yeah.
47:34
By, like, fifteen.
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So me, I'm I'm more on the I'm I'm more on the get the get a good player.
47:41
We pretty much we pretty much have when when Quasie does trade back, it it seems to fail,
47:48
you know, horrific.
47:49
When he does stick and pick so far, which has been who?
47:53
Jordan Addison and Donovan Jackson, it seems that we get at least a halfway good player.
47:59
Right?
47:59
I think Donovan Jackson is actually a great player.
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I think he's gonna be really, really good.
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That was a layup pick, and it was the right pick.
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So I give Plessy, you know, his flowers for that.
48:08
But, you know, this year with 18, I think at 18, you you should still be able to get a
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player that can come in and make an impact right away.
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See, Kwasey and them, they like to get too cute.
48:19
So I fear the trading back thing.
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I just fear there's gonna be too much thinking going on and not enough picking the right
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player.
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You know?
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Too much of that.
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And I don't wanna go through the his first draft, which was, you know, the 2020, what, '3
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2022 draft.
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The Andrew Booth. Yeah. The Andrew
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Yeah.
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The Andrew Booth, the Ed Ingram, that that whole debacle.
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I don't wanna go through that again, man.
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Listen.
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18, get us a player, please.
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And we have a a plethora of picks this year, which feels good as a Vikings
48:47
game too.
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You know?
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We actually got some capital to play with.
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When I signed into the mock draft simulator last night, I'm like, oh, wow.
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Look at this.
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Because last year, you know, we only had four, so we're signing into the simulator.
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It's like, alright.
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What do we do here?
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And we're, like, hitting all these trades to try to accumulate.
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I'm like, now we got a pocket full, man.
49:05
Let's have fun.
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So it's you know, I stick and pick in my opinion, man.
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And and that's the thing is we got the draft capital and maybe some players that maybe move
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up to the mid teens.
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Yeah.
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You know, if one of you know, like Cody said, one of our top three guys are still sitting
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around there, maybe we'd take a gamble and move up.
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Yep.
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You know?
49:25
But I I like sticking where we're at.
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I I'm definitely not for moving back.
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You know?
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I
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think the offer's gotta be right, and I guess that's what I was suggesting.
49:35
Are are you entertaining the offer if somebody's trying to move up to get their guy
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at 18?
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I don't know who they're reaching for in that middle.
49:44
Right?
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But if somebody's at 21, got somebody, and they're willing to give you, you know, probably
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not next year's first, but maybe a a second, an extra second round pick because you have so
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many holes on the team that getting another day two pick kind of fits in.
50:01
Maybe you're able to squeeze them for a second and a sixth, right, and stack up where you can
50:05
maybe leverage a couple of these six and sevens to move into a five, you know, on your day
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three picks because you need guys that are gonna play.
50:14
Right?
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And you're really only getting those in that first and second round.
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And are you really going to lose that much if, say, your guys that you really wanted are
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already gone if you move from 18 to, say, a twenty twenty one, you know, not going all the
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way back to the to the bottom of the draft?
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I don't think you can do that.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
50:35
Shout out Prince, man.
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Shout out
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to you.
50:37
Yeah.
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Well, Prince is, we got his song.
50:41
We got the purple.
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Okay.
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I was just about to
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ask you that because you you
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talked about music, and I was like, you got Prince's song?
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Okay.
50:48
Oh, yeah.
50:48
Again.
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So connected with Prince through Pat Booms.
50:51
So I got some of my content over on Booms TV, and, we started connecting.
50:56
He sent me the song, and I was like, bro, can I use that as the freaking theme song?
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Yeah.
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He performed he performed it at at my event at Skullfest.
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So, you know, he got you on stage and stuff, man.
51:07
Shout out to Prince, man.
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That's a good dude right there and talented, man.
51:11
You gotta you gotta did he send you a Justin Jefferson song?
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Did you hear
51:13
the Not
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yet.
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Nope.
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That's gonna be a pretty Prince,
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man.
51:16
What you
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doing, Prince?
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You gotta send the
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catalog, brother.
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Oh, man.
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No.
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Prince, he like that, man.
51:23
So shout out to him for sure.
51:25
Awesome stuff, man.
51:27
Yeah.
51:27
We're gonna have a lot more draft coverage coming on.
51:29
We kind of been letting the season kinda play out as it was, but I know Cody loves it.
51:34
As a former GM himself and someone who has his eyes on another GM job in the future, I'm sure
51:40
getting his takes on on everything have been really cool.
51:44
You know, somebody who's actually done the job, albeit, you know, a different level of ball,
51:49
it's the same thing.
51:50
You know, putting together a squad is not the easiest thing in the world to do.
51:55
You know?
51:56
And beyond talent, you got personalities too.
52:00
Now I know the charges have been dropped against Jordan Addison for this most recent
52:04
trespass, but what's your take on Addison and having someone like that on a team, especially
52:10
one that's gonna be going through a transition of leadership over this year losing, you know,
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Harrison and CJ?
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Yeah.
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I don't think he's a leader.
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You know?
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I don't think he'll ever be one to me.
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I mean, people are who they are.
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He showed who he is.
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I mean, he's I know I know a 100 people like him, man, in my inner city.
52:29
Right?
52:29
Like, they just trouble will find them.
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And I to me, I love him as a player.
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I think our team is better with a Jordan Addison out there.
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You know?
52:36
I just wanna make that clear.
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Like, I do I believe keeping Jordan Addison, you're gonna benefit from having a wide
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receiver like that.
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But I I also, on the other hand, I I don't believe you can allow somebody to keep, you
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know, keep getting away with that crap, man.
52:51
You know?
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It's because it's nonsense, bro.
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Like, dog, like, come on, man.
52:55
Like, some of the things is just like you just can't make it up, you know?
52:59
And it's it's it's like, man, when are you gonna learn?
53:02
You know?
53:02
And and it it sends a message to the players coming up under him, like the Ty Felton's of
53:07
the world.
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And I know everybody's personality is different, but you will have certain players
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that might be like, oh, damn.
53:12
You can get away with that.
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You can do this, that, and the third.
53:14
And the main thing for me is as a fan, I'm invested in the Vikings, like, emotionally
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invested.
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I I really love our team.
53:23
So, like, on Sundays, when we start a season out three games without being able to see
53:29
number three out there playing, I take it personal as a fan.
53:32
And it's not because he's injured.
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It's because of a mistake that a a boneheaded mistake that he made.
53:37
It's like, bro.
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And then right after that, we go to London and you miss the team practice, bro.
53:43
The team meet, like, come on.
53:44
Dude, just I mean, like, to me, I think you should trade him.
53:48
It may sting a little bit, but he's replaceable.
53:50
You know?
53:51
This is his Yep.
53:53
Well and and we talked a lot about, you know, if he's in for one of those three games, you
53:58
probably win one of them and you're in the playoffs.
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So, I I mean
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Thank you.
54:02
You know, you wanna talk about the KOC, you know, accountability in there.
54:07
Jordan Addison's gotta take some accountability too.
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And and, you know, a little Mia Culpa goes a long ways, and I don't feel like he's really
54:14
got that either.
54:15
I I don't see him really coming out and being like, you know, I'm making poor decisions and
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taking accountability for those things.
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Kinda just takes it on the chin and then goes and screws up again.
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Yeah.
54:27
Has somebody screwed up a lot in his life?
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He is who he is, man.
54:30
You know?
54:31
Like, us as fans are gonna have to deal with it.
54:33
If you want him to stay on the team, you gotta be expecting him to miss a couple games a
54:37
season probably because he's gonna do something.
54:39
And Kayla seeing
54:40
them, same thing.
54:42
Rhett, do you think maybe giving the number to number 84 there to maybe try to put him under
54:47
his wing would help or Chris Carter, or you just think he's in the set?
54:52
I think they've I I to believe it or not, I believe Chris Carter and Moss, you know,
54:56
they're obviously around the building when they need to be.
54:59
And, you you know, I believe they talk to him.
55:02
I'm sure I'm sure there's a relationship there.
55:04
You know, when you're dealing with somebody like at at he just doesn't care, man.
55:08
He don't care who's talking.
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He ain't listening.
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He
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ain't listening.
55:10
No.
55:10
Like, it doesn't matter who's talking to him.
55:12
He is who he is, and he's like, man, man, I'm not trying to hit none of that.
55:16
Like, while you're while while Chris Carter and them were talking to him, he's probably paying
55:20
attention, looking at and nod.
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Yes, sir.
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Yeah.
55:22
Yeah.
55:23
You're right.
55:23
You're right.
55:23
I do need to tighten up.
55:24
You're right.
55:25
And then he'll just go out and do the same.
55:27
Yeah.
55:27
I mean, his locker was right next door to Justin Jefferson.
55:31
Right?
55:31
He's right next to this guy who couldn't be more of a class act and a leader and someone
55:37
that, you know, these young players can look up to.
55:40
And, to me, I think he's just a cancer to the team.
55:42
You find out what you can get for him over the off season and take what you can get and just
55:48
be rid of it because it's only a matter of time.
55:51
Like, he is a he is a ticking time bomb at this point.
55:54
Shout out to Jackson, Bilkes.
55:57
I love Donovan Jackson, and I just wanna see more content of his mom in the I don't know if
56:02
you guys caught rapping, if you caught
56:04
any of
56:04
the The pancake.
56:06
Pulling out the syrup when he was pancaking guys out there.
56:09
Nice.
56:09
Nice.
56:10
Yeah.
56:10
It was so cool.
56:11
I I wanna meet her.
56:13
Like, my goal for next season or even this offseason is to get miss Jackson on the show.
56:18
Missus Jackson, if you are listening on Rap's channel, please, please, I will send you the
56:23
link.
56:24
We would love to talk good things about your boy and talk the ball with you.
56:28
Yes, sir.
56:29
Absolutely.
56:29
Absolutely.
56:30
I get it.
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Yeah.
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For sure.
56:32
That'd be fun.
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Okay.
56:35
That's what it's all about, man.
56:36
It's just having fun, and you could tell I mean, the there's a reason the moms get shouted
56:41
out.
56:41
Right?
56:42
They're they're usually the ones that are taking these boys to their practice.
56:45
I mean, when they make it, they made it.
56:47
Right?
56:48
Like, how gratifying that must be as a mom watching your boy play at the highest level and
56:53
then I'm watching some kick some ass out there on the football field, man.
56:57
That that's gotta feel almost as good.
56:59
Probably better because you ain't having to get your ass kicked while you're out there either.
57:03
You could just sit back, enjoy the highs, and not have to deal with the lows and the
57:07
injuries.
57:08
No.
57:09
Absolutely.
57:10
Absolutely, man.
57:10
I see people are talking about Hockison.
57:14
I'm curious how y'all feel.
57:15
I mean, I've been on the trade Hockison train.
57:17
Let me just throw that out there now.
57:19
I don't I'm curious to know how you guys feel about that.
57:22
Then, like, I just think I just think he's replaceable.
57:25
I'm sorry.
57:26
Yeah.
57:26
Replaceable.
57:27
Yep.
57:27
I I feel the same.
57:29
I've I think, you know, he had some bright spots, but wasn't what I was expecting.
57:36
You know?
57:36
He got way hyped up, and I didn't, didn't do anything for me.
57:42
I'll be honest.
57:42
Yeah.
57:43
Well, I think his best game was what?
57:45
The first or second we got him from Detroit, I think, was his best game.
57:49
Or maybe that New York Giants game.
57:51
I think I I remember that two touchdown game.
57:53
I think it was that Yeah.
57:54
So, yeah, he's definitely replaceable.
57:57
Wouldn't mind him if we can restructure the contract, I think, like, Bubba stated, but, you
58:02
know, we definitely would have to find a solid replacement for him.
58:06
Yeah.
58:06
When I look at the young tight ends around the league, man, we gotta catch up, like, for
58:10
real.
58:10
Yeah.
58:11
We're about
58:11
to be here.
58:12
Especially with the year that Colston Loveland had, this year coming out of Michigan, you
58:17
know, playing obviously for the NFC North rival bears and, you know, Hawkinson ain't that.
58:24
He ain't never been that.
58:25
I I feel like the Vikings kinda maybe got fleeced a little bit with that trade in the
58:29
first place, kinda talk themselves into it when they didn't necessarily need to.
58:34
Well, maybe maybe we'd go reach out to the Raiders to see if Myers is available since they
58:39
got Bowers this year.
58:42
So, you know Yeah.
58:43
Shout out to Andre.
58:44
Got got the hottest takes in the chat by far.
58:48
Beef Lo gonna sabotage KOC for the head coach job.
58:53
That's that's wild.
58:54
I I don't think
58:55
Andre, we put money on that one or what?
58:59
So, you know and I I feel like I feel like Bflow you know, obviously, the wolves wouldn't
59:05
tell them something like this right now, but maybe thinking like, hey.
59:08
You know, your best opportunity, believe it or not, to be a head coach is right here in
59:12
Minnesota.
59:13
Dude, you might wanna you might wanna sign that that extension, bubba.
59:17
Yep.
59:17
Hey.
59:18
Look.
59:18
The way we're looking right now, we have a coach that gets glorified in KOC where, you
59:24
know, the everybody talks about he's the whisperer.
59:26
He's the greatest offense of mine ever.
59:28
And I'm like, where, bro?
59:30
Because, like, yes.
59:31
Has he done some good things?
59:32
Absolutely.
59:33
But the consistency isn't there.
59:35
Then he's going on his fifth season and hasn't won a playoff game yet.
59:38
Yeah.
59:38
So, like, to me, it's like yo.
59:40
And and every other coach in the NFC now, he's he's he's left out of the party now.
59:45
Every other coach has his playoff wins, including the brand new one and Ben Johnson.
59:51
So there's no excuse, bro.
59:52
Like, you and then you got Mike you know, looking at the variables of the world, looking
59:57
at the McDonald's of the world in Seattle.
59:59
These guys are turning franchises around in one or two years.
1:00:03
Vrable, one year to be specific.
1:00:05
And they're going they're in the Super Bowl.
1:00:07
You know?
1:00:08
I'm not trying to hear it, man.
1:00:09
Like, KOC gotta give up play calling, man.
1:00:11
Yeah.
1:00:12
Well, he to go.
1:00:13
And I'm not saying that B Flo's gonna step in and and save us, but at the end of the day,
1:00:18
like, it's gonna be a point in time where, hey.
1:00:20
K o c, you gotta go.
1:00:21
So now it's the next man's opportunity.
1:00:23
And I think B Flo deserves So I'm here
1:00:25
for What I like about KOC is I feel like he's a good culture builder.
1:00:30
I think what's getting his ass in trouble is his play calling.
1:00:33
He can talk good.
1:00:35
Sport.
1:00:35
He is just play it's his offensive play calling that really gets him into hot water with me
1:00:39
where it's like as a culture builder, head coach, I think, like, clock managing, like,
1:00:43
little detail things in there.
1:00:45
He's really good at, but he can't get out of his own way wanting to play Madden with the
1:00:50
quarterback.
1:00:51
That is not and he wasn't that but that's what's crazy is that, like, he wasn't that
1:00:56
quarterback physically.
1:00:57
And now he's going out there and expecting all these other guys that aren't, you know, the
1:01:02
upper echelon, the Matt Staffords of the world that can see the field, make all the right
1:01:06
decisions, and have the cannon of an arm, and then, like, expecting it to like, he's playing
1:01:11
Madden.
1:01:12
And that's why you end up throwing the ball 50 times a game.
1:01:14
Like, you have thrown you've proven over five years, you're going to throw the ball more than
1:01:18
anybody in the league.
1:01:19
And to me, how do you even entice a top tier running back to come to a team where they know
1:01:25
they're not gonna get the ball?
1:01:26
Thank you.
1:01:26
You're not.
1:01:27
Thank you.
1:01:28
That's why
1:01:28
I said and that's why I said, like, the Jeremiah Love thing, trust me.
1:01:32
I I love him.
1:01:33
Yeah.
1:01:33
Yeah.
1:01:33
Yeah.
1:01:34
But the truth is Vikings fans, I tried to tell y'all to, you know, just just settle down a
1:01:39
little bit because if we get if we get love, you're gonna be mad.
1:01:43
You're gonna be mad that that KOC is gonna go to Miami this year like he does every year.
1:01:48
He's gonna do his interview at the owners meetings, and he's gonna tell us that he's
1:01:52
gonna go back to running the ball, and we're gonna get back to old school football.
1:01:55
He's gonna do it.
1:01:55
He did it two years in a row, told us, lied to right in our face.
1:01:59
Straight up told us that's what he was gonna do.
1:02:01
And then the season's gonna start, and Jeremiah Love is going to get three full carries a game.
1:02:05
They're like, that's what it's gonna be, and now we're gonna be pissed.
1:02:08
So I I just don't I I don't think we're gonna do it, you know, as much as I would want them.
1:02:14
Yeah.
1:02:14
And the thing is is, you know, people brought up that, you know, how is he the quarterback
1:02:19
whisper when the guys that he's improved are veteran quarterbacks that have been in the
1:02:24
league forever, you know, and he hasn't done nothing with the younger guys, you know, like,
1:02:30
you know, JJ this year, Hall last year.
1:02:35
So, I mean, you know, we can't really crown him the whisper if he's done it with the veterans.
1:02:40
I mean
1:02:41
Exactly.
1:02:42
But
1:02:43
See, I and I wanna address this comment real quick while I got it up here.
1:02:47
And is he better than Naylor?
1:02:50
Because his season looked like shit.
1:02:52
Nine drops.
1:02:53
Like, he dropped a bunch of touchdowns.
1:02:56
You know, speaking of Addison, like
1:02:58
No.
1:02:59
No way.
1:02:59
No way.
1:03:00
What I mean?
1:03:00
Does he have did he have that one awesome touchdown run on Christmas day?
1:03:04
Right?
1:03:05
That Enron
1:03:05
And and the question is is is he are they saying is is Addison better than Naylor?
1:03:11
Right.
1:03:11
So will they pay Naylor and try to draft Addison's replacement?
1:03:15
And and he's saying that, you know, he's still a better player than Naylor, but he didn't play
1:03:21
better than Naylor last season.
1:03:22
To me and it's like, what have you done for me lately, bro?
1:03:26
What are you doing on the off season?
1:03:28
Why can't you stay out of trouble?
1:03:29
Are you as committed to being that?
1:03:31
Are you riding that 40 time from three years ago and the fact that you were a first round
1:03:36
pick and you're just gonna ride that out?
1:03:38
Are you putting in the work in the offseason and during the season to be the best player out
1:03:43
there?
1:03:44
Because what I saw this last year would would go to the contrary and say that, no.
1:03:48
You aren't doing the things because you dropped at least three touchdowns.
1:03:52
You dropped three touchdown balls this year that those three touchdowns and those yards
1:03:56
completely change the narrative around your young quarterback as well.
1:04:01
Yeah.
1:04:02
No.
1:04:02
And and and keep in mind go ahead, Cody.
1:04:05
Yeah.
1:04:05
Go ahead.
1:04:05
I was just gonna say, I mean, you see all these athletes, showing off their training, training
1:04:12
videos in the off season with other players.
1:04:16
Not once have you seen anything about Addison.
1:04:19
He's just he doesn't care.
1:04:21
He honestly doesn't care.
1:04:23
I don't care, if his play is even a little bit better than Naylor's.
1:04:28
The off the field stuff's gotta go.
1:04:30
It's gotta go.
1:04:31
Wasn't Addison working with McCarthy all
1:04:35
off season?
1:04:35
Was.
1:04:35
He he he worked out with him a little bit last off season.
1:04:38
He
1:04:39
did.
1:04:39
But it was getting closer to the season too, though.
1:04:41
Yeah.
1:04:41
Mhmm.
1:04:42
It was it
1:04:42
was getting close.
1:04:43
It was almost when everybody was working out.
1:04:45
You know?
1:04:45
Yeah.
1:04:46
Yeah.
1:04:47
Was almost like Just because just
1:04:48
because you start a week
1:04:49
or two ahead of time.
1:04:51
Yeah.
1:04:51
No.
1:04:51
Like
1:04:52
Yeah.
1:04:53
And and, you know, when I talk when I always talk about the nailer in Addison's situation as
1:04:58
far as, you know, what should we do?
1:05:00
Should we try to keep both?
1:05:01
Should we keep one or whatever?
1:05:02
I always look at too is our young quarterback has the best chemistry with Jalen Naylor, in my
1:05:08
opinion.
1:05:09
Like, so, I mean, that that holds a lot of weight.
1:05:11
So I think I think they should consider that when they're making this decision, if they do
1:05:16
make this decision.
1:05:16
And there's some desperate teams out there that feel like they need a wide receiver to put them
1:05:22
over the top.
1:05:24
So with that being
1:05:24
said Come on.
1:05:25
Addison would build to be a raider.
1:05:27
Come on now.
1:05:28
Yeah.
1:05:28
Raider.
1:05:29
I mean, the forty niners are desperate because The Brown with their pro bowl quarterback now?
1:05:34
I mean Thank you.
1:05:36
Boy.
1:05:37
And I mean They got a pro bowler now.
1:05:39
They need a wide receiver, bro.
1:05:41
That's well, I feel like Naylor's just getting slept on.
1:05:45
I mean, when was it?
1:05:46
Last year, for the for at least the first three, four games, he was tied for lead lead
1:05:52
lead to lead in touchdowns.
1:05:54
Like Yeah.
1:05:56
No.
1:05:57
He's he's catching them.
1:05:58
Yeah.
1:05:58
He does his thing.
1:05:59
I like
1:05:59
Put Randy Moss for head coach.
1:06:01
Randy Moss, he never coached a day of football in his life, I don't think, unless he was
1:06:04
coaching one of his kids, Pop Warner teams or something.
1:06:07
A man just got in
1:06:08
with Hey.
1:06:08
But Philip Rivers had a dance.
1:06:11
Which is which is which is ridiculous,
1:06:14
man.
1:06:14
I can't, like well,
1:06:15
I can't believe they did that.
1:06:17
That's ridiculous in my opinion.
1:06:20
Whatever, though.
1:06:22
Yeah.
1:06:23
And, yeah, Pop kinda answered my question.
1:06:25
Somebody said trade Hock, and Pop immediately said trade.
1:06:28
No one's trading for him.
1:06:29
No.
1:06:29
I think, if Hawk doesn't sign something that's seriously restructured, he may be a cap
1:06:34
casualty.
1:06:35
I think he'll get a job somewhere else.
1:06:37
Somebody somebody will take a flyer off.
1:06:38
They're not gonna trade for him.
1:06:40
No.
1:06:40
Nobody's nobody's giving up any any draft capital for that.
1:06:45
Skull, T Bell, thank you.
1:06:46
Nice Jimi Hendrix photo.
1:06:48
Yeah.
1:06:48
I appreciate that.
1:06:49
A as
1:06:50
a music guy, I appreciate it.
1:06:54
Yeah.
1:06:54
That and that's this this speaks to a lot of what the Vikings there's a lot of holes to fill
1:07:01
on this team.
1:07:02
Right?
1:07:02
Like Mhmm.
1:07:03
And if you're trying to build this, like, championship culture, you can't have guys like
1:07:08
Addison around in that, taking up roster spots to not be available.
1:07:13
And to me, Naylor is a guy that obviously put in the work.
1:07:17
What was the knock on him in his his was his rookie year where he had a ton of drops.
1:07:21
Right?
1:07:21
All the speed in the world, but couldn't catch the ball.
1:07:24
Well, it seems like he kinda worked his ass off on that in the off season and kinda came out
1:07:30
and proved that now this year.
1:07:31
Probably made himself a nice little bundle of money.
1:07:34
The shame would be for the Vikings to develop this talent and then not sign him, have him go
1:07:40
somewhere else where he's the one going to a 49ers team that knows exactly what to do with
1:07:45
someone with that amount of speed and goes and becomes another, you know, another pro bowler,
1:07:50
all pro on a different team that the Vikings have go.
1:07:53
You know?
1:07:54
The nation not right thing is damning of this team.
1:07:57
The fact that that man went out and did what he did in Chicago this year, and he was on this
1:08:02
squad last year, that that's not a good look when you have Who
1:08:06
do you blame that on?
1:08:08
I don't I mean, whose decision is it to say let him go?
1:08:13
Right?
1:08:13
You know?
1:08:14
I I I don't know.
1:08:15
I don't know who you put that blame on.
1:08:17
Is that a you know, is that the head co or the defensive coordinator that just can't find a
1:08:24
spot for him, or is it on the player?
1:08:26
Maybe he wasn't the same player, you know, last year on the practice squad and what he was
1:08:30
showing to what and he went and worked his ass off this year to find a spot on a team and to
1:08:36
be that player.
1:08:38
Or is it the I don't want to know scouts that tell us, hey.
1:08:41
We got this guy for agency that looked a lot better than this guy.
1:08:44
So let's take a play on him.
1:08:46
Let that guy walk.
1:08:47
I mean
1:08:48
I think it's a mixture of both.
1:08:49
I think it's a you know, the scout, made a mistake.
1:08:53
I think it's the player.
1:08:54
Maybe the player you know, maybe he wasn't all in right away and needed that, like, reality
1:08:59
check of, hey.
1:09:00
You haven't made it yet, and he didn't make it on this team.
1:09:04
And maybe when he got to the bears, he was like, hey, this might be my last stop.
1:09:08
Because you'd you know, as a rookie, especially one that's on a like, the practice squad or
1:09:13
something, you only have a few stops before they're just done with you.
1:09:19
Yeah.
1:09:19
No.
1:09:20
That's true, man.
1:09:21
He bought out too this year.
1:09:22
Shout out to him, man.
1:09:23
Well, mean, last last season, you had a very solid DB core.
1:09:29
Right?
1:09:29
Like, you had the camp binders and everything, but then you, like, let everyone walk, and
1:09:33
we're like, oh, we're gonna sign Jeff Okuda.
1:09:35
Like, what the fuck?
1:09:37
Which I I was I was on to Jeff Okuda.
1:09:39
I was thinking he would be alright, man.
1:09:40
I I don't know what's up with that guy, man.
1:09:42
Holy.
1:09:43
He wasn't even on the field most
1:09:45
Man, when you watch his college career, man, you're like, yo.
1:09:48
How are you not good, bro?
1:09:50
Like, you were so dominant.
1:09:52
That's why it was picked so high.
1:09:55
Yes.
1:09:55
It's the his I mean, that has to be studied, man.
1:09:58
That that's why it comes down to, yeah, you're you get drafted to the pros, but are you going
1:10:03
to a team that fits your style?
1:10:05
You know?
1:10:05
I mean Yeah.
1:10:06
That's why I hate when the experts are like, oh, this is the guys that can't miss player.
1:10:10
And it's just like, yeah.
1:10:11
Well, he's going to the Raiders who have, you know, 50,000,000 holes to fill.
1:10:15
How good is he gonna be?
1:10:17
You know?
1:10:17
See, I also feel like as a corner, though, like, if you're good, you're good.
1:10:21
It don't matter what team you go to as
1:10:23
as a VP
1:10:24
in my opinion.
1:10:24
You know?
1:10:25
Yeah.
1:10:25
I think you're looking at somebody I think you're looking at somebody kinda what I was
1:10:29
talking about with Addison that's riding that that has that big head as a first round pick.
1:10:34
I don't need to put in the work, not realizing that there are a thousand guys behind you that
1:10:39
want your spot.
1:10:39
You gotta be the hungriest dog.
1:10:41
Whether you got picked first or last or you went undrafted, you gotta be hungry in this
1:10:46
league because NFL stands for not for long.
1:10:49
Right?
1:10:50
And you could your ass could be on the sidelines real quick.
1:10:53
Napster, to answer your question, you can't blame that on QB play.
1:10:56
Hock just the injury set him back.
1:10:59
He's aging.
1:11:00
He he's lost the speed.
1:11:01
He's never been the biggest guy where he's helping in the blocking game.
1:11:06
He just you know, I don't wanna say that he didn't deserve the contract when he got it, but
1:11:11
the injury yeah.
1:11:12
The injury killed him.
1:11:14
Yeah.
1:11:14
I I don't think he deserved that contract.
1:11:17
I don't think he deserved it neither.
1:11:18
Yeah.
1:11:19
I'm with you on that.
1:11:21
I think we yeah.
1:11:22
The TJ Hockison gotta go, man.
1:11:24
Yeah.
1:11:24
I think I did no no doubt.
1:11:27
Like, he is cap casualty number one on this team.
1:11:32
Yeah.
1:11:32
You know?
1:11:33
Hock moves like Kyle.
1:11:35
Yeah.
1:11:35
But he's, like, half the size.
1:11:37
Right?
1:11:37
So he can't help you in the blocking game either.
1:11:40
I'm telling you.
1:11:40
Yeah.
1:11:40
Kyle Rudolph, though, I mean, he was almost I mean, the coaches staff of players, he was
1:11:45
another offensive lineman.
1:11:46
He wasn't a tight end.
1:11:47
He was an offensive lineman.
1:11:48
That's what I'm saying.
1:11:49
Hock can't block nobody either.
1:11:51
Yeah.
1:11:51
Like him.
1:11:52
Rand Rudolph can block.
1:11:54
Right.
1:11:56
Yeah.
1:11:56
Well
1:11:56
and that's yeah.
1:11:57
We got man, there's so many questions on this team right now.
1:12:01
Talking about the draft, and you got no money in free agency right now.
1:12:05
And it's like, man, maybe Andre's right.
1:12:09
Everybody just fire everybody, blow it up, move the team south.
1:12:15
I don't know where they just built a billion dollar stadium, Andre.
1:12:18
I know you mentioned moving, but I don't think
1:12:20
the team's going anywhere, buddy.
1:12:22
Yeah.
1:12:23
Yeah.
1:12:24
I I and I'm gonna rely on Cody.
1:12:26
I'm like, we need a we need a young tight end.
1:12:29
I couldn't agree more with Barbara here.
1:12:32
We gotta get younger across the board, right, at all these positions.
1:12:36
And, you know, I I think, there was some talk about offensive line and wanting to build
1:12:41
through there.
1:12:42
I think if you can get a solid you need a solid center.
1:12:45
You're probably not drafting that.
1:12:47
You'll probably end up, you know, finding someone scrap heap that can be serviceable
1:12:53
probably.
1:12:55
But you're feeling pretty good about the left side of this line if you get a healthy Derosaw
1:12:59
back.
1:13:00
Right?
1:13:00
I think I like Jackson.
1:13:02
You know, we kinda touched on it earlier.
1:13:03
I think Jackson's gonna be a hell of a hell of alignment in this league for a long time.
1:13:10
But, you know, yeah, you you can't spend a bunch of don't have the draft capital
1:13:15
necessarily to get top flight offensive linemen in that.
1:13:20
So and you don't have the money to go sign one either.
1:13:22
So you're kinda, like, gonna have to put it together.
1:13:26
Offensive line talk, Chris Cooper lost his job over the last week as well.
1:13:31
Yep.
1:13:32
Rap Rap, what do you what do you think about that?
1:13:35
Do you think Cooper's the blame for the offensive line woes, or you think he's just a
1:13:39
scapegoat?
1:13:40
I I think he's I think he's the blame, to be honest with you.
1:13:43
I'm I'm gonna go I'm gonna say he's the blame because we have we have evidence he's the blame
1:13:48
because you have you have Garrett Bradbury who looks amazing now.
1:13:52
You have Ed Ingram who looks amazing.
1:13:54
You had Ezra Cleveland who looked really good.
1:13:57
These are guys that played under Chris Cooper, and then the moment they leave, they look good.
1:14:02
So, like yeah.
1:14:03
And there is there I'm sure there's other factors that play a part in that.
1:14:06
But, like, for the the I mean, you got to go, Chris Cooper.
1:14:09
We've been calling for his head.
1:14:11
You know?
1:14:11
We've been calling for his head, man.
1:14:13
He gotta get a bad
1:14:14
that was a great move.
1:14:15
That was a great move.
1:14:16
Now one thing I have an issue with is the Vikings sitting on their hands right now and
1:14:21
not really making moves.
1:14:22
I mean, you let the guy go to the Baltimore Ravens, who's that?
1:14:26
Ledford.
1:14:27
You you let the Baltimore Ravens swoop in and get him.
1:14:29
Like, are you are you actively going after his replacement?
1:14:33
Like, that's now that's the issue.
1:14:35
I feel like and and I I've been feeling like this since Quaci and them have hit the
1:14:39
building.
1:14:39
I just feel like they take their time with everything, man.
1:14:42
Like, they they almost take their time with too many things.
1:14:45
Like, they wait till the last minute to bring in quarterback, the veteran quarterback last
1:14:49
year.
1:14:49
They wait till the last minute to fire Ed Donatelle the first year after they realized
1:14:53
the defense wasn't working.
1:14:54
You know, that was a fire that shoulda happened, like, week five.
1:14:57
You know what I mean?
1:14:58
Like, for real.
1:14:59
And then that's why we got smashed in the playoffs.
1:15:01
We coulda we coulda won that game if we had a different defensive coordinator.
1:15:05
But, you know, I I just think they need to start making moves, man.
1:15:09
Quit waiting.
1:15:10
Quit dragging their feet.
1:15:11
Like, make moves.
1:15:12
You're letting everybody get signed.
1:15:13
Where where what are we doing?
1:15:15
You know what I mean?
1:15:16
So
1:15:16
You well, that's
1:15:17
the thing is that you got no money to sign anybody.
1:15:19
You're $50,000,000 over the cap.
1:15:21
Like, you gotta
1:15:21
get I'm talking about coaches.
1:15:22
I'm talking about Yeah.
1:15:26
Well
1:15:26
Yeah.
1:15:27
I'm all getting a
1:15:27
big one done at least.
1:15:29
Like, you know, you couldn't do anything until you figured out your B flow situation.
1:15:33
For sure.
1:15:33
You literally couldn't move.
1:15:35
You're stuck.
1:15:36
But, yeah, you you better get your ass in gear and get moving, and solve some of these
1:15:41
problems.
1:15:42
I don't even know who they got eyes on.
1:15:44
I don't know that anything's kinda leaked out about people they're talking to in those realms
1:15:48
at all.
1:15:49
I don't really you know, I don't follow the coordinator games or or a lot of these
1:15:53
underling coaches enough to know.
1:15:56
I kinda rely heavily on Cody and Bea for the real in-depth, knowledge.
1:16:00
There you go.
1:16:02
I'm just here I
1:16:02
have I have the list right here.
1:16:04
So Dwayne Ledford, which he's already off the table now.
1:16:07
So now it's Frank Smith, Keith Carter, and Pat Mayer are the names.
1:16:11
According to Alec Lewis, by the way.
1:16:13
You know?
1:16:14
He's he's an insider.
1:16:15
So according to him, that's the that's the names right there that we can keep an eye an
1:16:20
eye out for.
1:16:21
Meet Safraekel.
1:16:24
We'll see.
1:16:25
I've got sauce ready, coach.
1:16:27
Actually, I would you know, listen to meat sauce talk draft.
1:16:31
I wouldn't mind him being in the, you know, scouting department and, you know, breaking
1:16:35
down these players.
1:16:36
I think he would be good at that part.
1:16:39
Yeah.
1:16:42
Shout out Norris for us in the building.
1:16:43
I see you Norris, man.
1:16:45
Or is that Eli hen Hendrich?
1:16:48
Hendrich?
1:16:50
He'd he'drich.
1:16:51
Hiderich.
1:16:52
However you say it.
1:16:53
I don't even know who that is.
1:16:55
I don't even know who that is.
1:16:57
Oh, Andre just
1:16:59
Andre be going in, man.
1:17:00
Yeah.
1:17:01
You got it, man.
1:17:02
Andre's getting a link next week, brother.
1:17:04
We're bringing you on the show.
1:17:05
Yeah.
1:17:05
Bring Andre on the show.
1:17:06
Yeah.
1:17:06
For sure.
1:17:11
Is it Bob's
1:17:12
Bob's weed, or is it Bob's weed?
1:17:15
Drain Addy for a fully guaranteed popcorn fart.
1:17:20
Might catch more passes.
1:17:21
Just saying.
1:17:24
Yeah.
1:17:24
She was like, I've never had to
1:17:25
do this much work on the chat sides.
1:17:27
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1:17:29
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1:17:30
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1:17:32
Yeah.
1:17:33
Man.
1:17:33
We appreciate you bringing your whole crew with you, man.
1:17:35
This has been great.
1:17:36
That wasn't my purpose for bringing you in tonight, but I I sure do appreciate it.
1:17:41
I just, you know, watched enough of you and your content to know that I liked your takes.
1:17:45
I think
1:17:46
you got a good sound mind.
1:17:48
A lot of these people out in Vikings fandom are are absolutely fucking crazy.
1:17:55
Yes.
1:17:55
And not like in a funny way like Andre is.
1:17:58
I hope he's serious about all these takes too because I'm totally in for that, but a lot of
1:18:03
people are just you know, the JJ talk this year really just blew my mind.
1:18:07
With people that were so out on this kid play it, it's starting into, like, his third game
1:18:11
and they're like, he's a boss.
1:18:12
I was like Yeah.
1:18:13
But you want Sam Darnold, who everybody labeled a bus seven years ago, back on the team.
1:18:17
Like, what are we talking about?
1:18:19
Well, you wanted Kirk Cousins, or you wanted Danny Dimes, or you want Aaron Rodgers.
1:18:24
I mean, you know, there's all those talks this offseason.
1:18:28
Yeah.
1:18:28
We just have to go through the process, man.
1:18:30
You know, our fan base, we're we're impatient.
1:18:34
And I guess it's for obvious reasons because we haven't won a Super Bowl, and we're trying to
1:18:38
get there tomorrow.
1:18:39
So it it is what it is, and and we expect that JJ well, not me, but you had a group of fans.
1:18:45
The ones that you're talking about, Bubba, is the ones that expected him to come in and beat
1:18:49
Tom Brady.
1:18:50
You know?
1:18:50
They expect him to come in, you know, and automatically throw 50 touchdowns and just
1:18:56
Missing a good quarterback.
1:18:57
Yeah.
1:18:57
It's like, bro, come on, man.
1:18:59
Like, we gotta be a little bit now If the if it was just a straight disaster, I think what was
1:19:05
worse with this season was the the injury.
1:19:07
Like, if you're if with the people that make the argument of availability, you
1:19:11
you can't really
1:19:12
you can't really say anything.
1:19:14
Right?
1:19:14
Because availability is an issue.
1:19:16
Like, you gotta be healthy, bro.
1:19:17
He didn't he didn't suffer from injuries in college, man.
1:19:21
You know?
1:19:21
I I follow Michigan.
1:19:23
So, like, I watched JJ McCarthy's whole college career, and I wanted him.
1:19:26
He was my number two quarterback that I wanted in that draft.
1:19:29
So, like, I always had belief in him, but he does have to stay available.
1:19:33
That's one thing for sure.
1:19:34
I know injuries happen in the NFL, but, bro, they can't happen anymore, bro.
1:19:38
Like, you gotta you gotta be out there.
1:19:40
I expect them to play all 17 games season.
1:19:42
That's all I'm saying.
1:19:43
Well, and that's something too that I brought up on our last show is, you know, with the way
1:19:47
the bears with Kayla Williams, you know, struggled last year and, you know, finally got
1:19:52
another group.
1:19:53
There's some light there that, you know, if we just be patient, you know, good things could
1:19:58
come.
1:19:58
So
1:19:59
Yeah.
1:20:00
Yeah.
1:20:01
Is this crazy?
1:20:03
It's crazy.
1:20:03
Two years ago, a few years ago, like, I would never picture us saying, like, dang.
1:20:10
I wish we had Daniel Jones back.
1:20:12
It's Sam Donald, but damn.
1:20:15
Missed some guys.
1:20:17
Yeah.
1:20:17
I know, man.
1:20:18
You got you know, Daniel Jones actually would have been interesting to keep on the roster,
1:20:22
honestly.
1:20:23
Like, that was I wouldn't have been mad at that keeping him on the roster, but Yeah.
1:20:28
You know, I'm JJ McCarthy.
1:20:29
I'm riding for JJ.
1:20:31
Now, obviously, I know you fellas know.
1:20:33
There's a ton of talks now, obviously, for making the big swing, which is the Joe Burrows
1:20:38
or the Lamar Jackson or whatever.
1:20:40
And every year, it's like that.
1:20:41
Now I'm seeing Justin Herbert, and I'm like, oh, here we go.
1:20:45
You know?
1:20:46
We just gonna be we just gonna be going down this road.
1:20:48
But, again, when when you're talking about players like that, you you having a different
1:20:53
conversation because you're talking about players that can possibly come in and maybe get
1:20:57
you there.
1:20:58
You know?
1:20:58
But I'm still with JJ McCarthy, man.
1:21:00
I'm riding, man.
1:21:01
Let's go through the journey.
1:21:02
Why not?
1:21:02
What are we in a rush for?
1:21:04
We we already made it this far.
1:21:05
You know?
1:21:05
What are in a rush?
1:21:06
And this team's year was last season.
1:21:10
Right?
1:21:10
Like, you had that first pick.
1:21:12
Like, it it was kinda ride or die because you could see the aging of the d you could see the
1:21:17
aging of the team kind of having an effect already.
1:21:21
Right?
1:21:21
And I didn't I wasn't in on, like, the I figured this team would get to around where it
1:21:26
did.
1:21:26
Nine, ten wins.
1:21:27
Maybe you sneak into the playoffs.
1:21:29
Maybe you're able to make some magic happen, but I don't feel like this team is off base.
1:21:33
And now it's Super Bowl by 2029 or everybody's getting fired.
1:21:38
Right?
1:21:38
Like, you put b flow on this track with KOC in there.
1:21:42
Hey, Jackson.
1:21:43
Thanks for the super chat, man.
1:21:44
Our first ever super chat on the channel.
1:21:46
Let's go.
1:21:47
Yeah.
1:21:48
Shout out to Jackson.
1:21:48
Let's go, man.
1:21:49
Shout out to
1:21:50
can draft the boy out of Oregon.
1:21:52
Yeah.
1:21:52
Kenyon Sadiq.
1:21:53
Yeah.
1:21:54
It's it there there's talk, man.
1:21:56
There's this is a huge draft.
1:21:58
This is the biggest draft of Kwesi's career.
1:22:00
A 100%.
1:22:01
And, if he has this stuff, he might get he might get fired before the season starts.
1:22:07
Yeah.
1:22:08
He might not even need to put a team on the field.
1:22:11
Just be able to look back and be like, nope.
1:22:13
We're done with this dude.
1:22:14
Clean clean house.
1:22:17
Yeah.
1:22:17
Lot of Sadik fans.
1:22:19
Lot
1:22:19
of Got a lot of Sadik.
1:22:20
Yeah.
1:22:20
A lot of Sadik fans, man.
1:22:22
That's the dude that's, like, buff.
1:22:23
Isn't that the that's, like,
1:22:24
the big that that Yeah.
1:22:25
He's a dog.
1:22:27
Yeah.
1:22:28
Like, Arnold's just busting out the shoulder pad.
1:22:30
Like, that's that's the dude.
1:22:31
I know who y'all talking about.
1:22:32
He's number 18, I believe.
1:22:34
I gotta go do some I gotta go do some more homework, man.
1:22:37
I I haven't even got into my draft.
1:22:38
Is overrated, and has has chimed in with us before on the channel too, subscribed early.
1:22:46
And Yeah.
1:22:47
Yeah, man.
1:22:47
I'm gonna lean on Nordspius.
1:22:49
Norspieus, you got any tidbits from us?
1:22:51
You just watched the shrine game, man.
1:22:53
Drop in the chat, man.
1:22:54
Anything
1:22:55
Yeah.
1:22:55
He dropped the name.
1:22:56
He dropped the name.
1:22:57
That name I was trying to say.
1:22:58
Yeah.
1:22:58
What was that name I was trying to say?
1:23:01
Heidernreich?
1:23:02
Hinrich.
1:23:02
Yeah.
1:23:03
Something like that.
1:23:03
Yeah.
1:23:04
He's that man.
1:23:04
Heidernreich.
1:23:06
Sorry.
1:23:06
It's the German side of me coming out.
1:23:08
Oh, okay.
1:23:09
There we go.
1:23:10
Let's get it.
1:23:11
Yeah.
1:23:14
Love it.
1:23:15
Time of the year, man, because everybody kinda has their players that they go and they look
1:23:20
at, and they they pound in the table.
1:23:22
You know?
1:23:23
And and they want them to they want us to jive.
1:23:25
I usually pick three player.
1:23:26
I try to keep it to three that I'm like, alright.
1:23:28
These are my three wishes right here for let let's get at least one of these.
1:23:33
You know?
1:23:33
So it's it's fun.
1:23:34
I love this time of the year.
1:23:35
I know it's kinda heartbreaking that the season's over, but then it's also it's also
1:23:40
anticipation, what's gonna happen, this, that, and the third, man.
1:23:44
There's a lot of NFL keeps it interesting, not just for the Minnesota Vikings, just the NFL in
1:23:48
general, man.
1:23:49
They always give us something to talk about.
1:23:51
You know?
1:23:51
So Thanks.
1:23:52
Somebody's gonna come on and say some stupid ish.
1:23:55
Well, that's the Minnesota football sports in general.
1:23:57
I mean yeah.
1:24:00
Yeah.
1:24:01
Yeah.
1:24:01
We'll get some news.
1:24:02
Don't worry.
1:24:05
They'll keep us they'll keep us entertained.
1:24:07
Yeah.
1:24:08
No.
1:24:09
It it there's just there's gonna be a lot of movement.
1:24:11
Right?
1:24:12
And I think, yeah, JJ's their guy, man.
1:24:14
They're they're gonna bring in somebody behind him because we obviously know that we're not
1:24:17
rolling in with JJ and Max Brosmer.
1:24:20
Right?
1:24:20
And what a what a joke the whole Seattle game.
1:24:23
See all the hype on Brosmer leading up to that game, put that young man in such a bad spot.
1:24:29
That's that's that's
1:24:30
I mean, it's safe to say that Max Brozmer should probably I mean, honestly, like, Max
1:24:35
Brozmer probably shouldn't even be on the roster to be he should be a practice squad
1:24:38
player.
1:24:38
Like, I think
1:24:39
Well, he was.
1:24:40
Right?
1:24:40
But you had no backup plan.
1:24:42
Your Carson Wentz backup plan freaking lost his arm halfway through.
1:24:47
This is this is a thing too, man.
1:24:48
Like, this is what I don't like about the Mac.
1:24:51
Like and I I love the whole fact that he's, you know, played in Minnesota, this, and the third,
1:24:56
but then this goes back to Quasie and KOC and how they operate.
1:25:00
They're too nice.
1:25:01
It's more about being the nice guy, being friendly.
1:25:04
Oh, you played for the gophers.
1:25:06
Me and your coach have a relationship.
1:25:08
I came to some of your practices.
1:25:10
You know what?
1:25:10
You're gonna make the 53.
1:25:11
Bro, you you Right.
1:25:13
He he shouldn't have been on the 53.
1:25:15
Right?
1:25:16
He he he is not an NFL quarterback at the moment.
1:25:20
Can he get there?
1:25:21
Maybe.
1:25:23
But, like, there was no reason for Max Brosman to be going out on that field and playing
1:25:27
football for the Minnesota Vikings this year, bro.
1:25:29
It just I mean, it's just it's obvious.
1:25:31
And it it goes back to, man, let's keep business business, and let's keep your
1:25:36
friendships your friendships outside of the business.
1:25:39
We need to take this serious to actually be able to get over the hump.
1:25:43
Take take building this team serious because a Max Brozmer move is is a move where the league
1:25:50
is laughing at you, and then you absolute and then you have the nerve to roll them out there.
1:25:53
Then you saw what you did.
1:25:55
You killed him.
1:25:55
You killed his confidence, bro.
1:25:57
It's over with.
1:25:58
He may never come back.
1:25:59
You know what mean?
1:26:00
And it's hard to come
1:26:01
back from the two guy And you almost did it.
1:26:04
You own game.
1:26:05
Yeah.
1:26:05
Sorry, Bubba to cut you out.
1:26:06
You almost did it to JJ McCarthy, somebody who's a dog.
1:26:09
Good thing he could overcome it because he's been in those situations before in big time
1:26:14
games, but you you you you almost did it to him as well.
1:26:18
You know, we're we're blessed that he's a he's a d a double g, man.
1:26:21
You know I mean?
1:26:22
Yeah.
1:26:24
Straight up.
1:26:24
The thing that pisses me off the most, and you brought it up, that that Minnesota nice thing.
1:26:31
Yeah.
1:26:31
You know, like, we take it too far, you know, drafting Bro Brosemer, you know, just because
1:26:38
it was a good story, something to talk about.
1:26:40
No.
1:26:41
When did you draft him?
1:26:41
He signed him, obviously.
1:26:43
Yeah.
1:26:43
Yeah.
1:26:44
Undrafted.
1:26:45
Undrafted.
1:26:45
My bad.
1:26:46
My bad.
1:26:46
And then, you know, just going back over the years that Brock Lesnar assigned you know,
1:26:52
bringing him on that Moritz Bohringer or whatever, that wide receiver we took last
1:26:58
seventh pick because he was he was a Vikings fan or something from overseas.
1:27:03
Like, what are we doing here?
1:27:05
It's just like, yeah, man.
1:27:07
Like, it's there there's there's there's situations where you can buy into the story,
1:27:11
and I'm a I'm for that.
1:27:12
But this wasn't the one.
1:27:14
Alright?
1:27:14
This one just made it was just it was just like, man, it was it was just too obvious.
1:27:18
And this was supposedly Quasie's guy.
1:27:20
I mean, you heard about the, oh, Quasie really believed in this dude.
1:27:24
Man, Quasie need to stop believing in play.
1:27:26
Because every time Quasie's name gets brought up behind a player, this the it it it goes down
1:27:31
as one of the worst players to ever put on the jersey damn there.
1:27:35
You know?
1:27:36
We're talking about a Caleb Evans of the world.
1:27:38
We're talking about Lewis Seens of the world.
1:27:40
Now we're talking
1:27:41
about Mac Rose.
1:27:42
Make the decisions.
1:27:43
Somebody take the freaking take the button away from him.
1:27:48
Happy birthday, Jordan Addison.
1:27:49
Great.
1:27:50
So he'll be in the headlines tomorrow.
1:27:53
Hopefully, he ain't out tonight, man.
1:27:54
Shout out class g, man.
1:27:56
That's Nabrowski.
1:27:56
Like you said, he ain't listening to nobody.
1:27:59
Right?
1:27:59
The charges got dropped.
1:28:00
He back in the club.
1:28:01
Let's roll.
1:28:03
Oh my god.
1:28:04
Yeah.
1:28:04
Well, hopefully hopefully, he makes it.
1:28:06
Hopefully, he makes it tonight.
1:28:07
I hope so, man.
1:28:10
Yeah.
1:28:10
Andre.
1:28:12
Andre.
1:28:13
Yeah.
1:28:13
I I feel for you, man.
1:28:14
I feel for you.
1:28:15
You've seen some, you've seen some in times, man.
1:28:19
We get it.
1:28:20
We get it.
1:28:21
Yeah.
1:28:21
That's what I like about my when I'm going live, man.
1:28:23
We have a ton of OGs.
1:28:24
I call them OGs over there, man.
1:28:26
You know?
1:28:26
Like, North Viesta world.
1:28:28
You know?
1:28:28
We have a lot of people that are in my age bracket too in the thirties, but, like, we have
1:28:32
a ton of fans on on my channel when we go live that are that been fans since the early
1:28:37
seventies, and they're like, man, I'm sick of this shit, bro.
1:28:41
Like, they they just want I mean, they want change.
1:28:43
They they kinda know what they want because they've seen a little bit of everything, and
1:28:47
they're like, man, we gotta do this down the third.
1:28:49
And those are the people I tend to listen to, man.
1:28:51
So shout out to the OGs, man.
1:28:53
I love OGs.
1:28:54
Yeah.
1:28:55
And and Napster, yeah, we we understand.
1:28:57
I mean, that's the one thing.
1:28:58
For me, JJ has all those intangible things that you were looking for that Darnold doesn't have.
1:29:04
He just can't stay on the field.
1:29:06
And you're hoping that with the training staff that you have, maybe maybe there's some things
1:29:11
that he can do taking care of his body now with an NFL offseason, maybe with some of those NFL
1:29:16
game checks, although you only get game checks if you're in the damn game, you know, that he
1:29:21
can take better care of his body and build himself up a little bit more, you know,
1:29:25
physically.
1:29:26
The hand thing this year, that shit happens NFL quarterbacks.
1:29:29
But that's why you see a lot of guys when when they're getting pressure are swinging at
1:29:33
sidearm or are doing other things.
1:29:35
Right?
1:29:35
So there's some things that he can do differently to protect himself.
1:29:39
But to me, JJ brings so many of those intangibles.
1:29:42
Being able to have a mobile quarterback, a guy that can run the ball, has a little bit of
1:29:47
attitude, right, the gritty into the end zone in Dallas, I freaking loved it.
1:29:50
I loved it.
1:29:51
Right now, if he kicks that ball out of the end zone and shit, I don't love it.
1:29:54
But I I you you wanted that.
1:29:57
Right?
1:29:57
You were asking for a little bit more than kind of playing Jane Sam Darnold who's gonna shit
1:30:03
the bed.
1:30:04
JJ, on the other hand, like, only shows up when the game's in the big moments.
1:30:09
Right?
1:30:09
Like, he plays his best ball in those moments.
1:30:11
So, I mean, that's that's why, like, you know, McCarthy and why you gotta let this play out,
1:30:17
man.
1:30:18
Like, going and mortgaging the whole farm for Joe Burrow, who is just as injury prone as JJ
1:30:24
McCarthy is, if not more so, you know, albeit a much more proven commodity.
1:30:31
Like, you you but what are you gonna give up?
1:30:33
You're give up three first round draft picks, maybe two set like, what is gonna be the
1:30:37
package that actually brings you Joe Burrow?
1:30:41
It's a
1:30:41
pipe dream to me.
1:30:42
But it also it also goes back to the coaching staff.
1:30:45
You know, we're talking about firing Chris Cooper firing this.
1:30:47
I think they need to reevaluate our medical staff as well.
1:30:51
And then Kevin O'Connell also lying to us right before that game.
1:30:54
I will not put JJ McCarthy out there unless he's 100%.
1:30:58
Alright?
1:30:58
So once again, KOC gets on there, lies to us in our face, forcing the issue.
1:31:03
Same thing with same thing with Kristen Derisol.
1:31:06
Kristen Derisol should have not have been out there.
1:31:08
It just is what it is.
1:31:10
know?
1:31:10
You gotta stop letting the players make decisions.
1:31:13
You have to be a head coach at some point.
1:31:15
You have to start dragging.
1:31:16
I say dragging you nuts, man.
1:31:18
Excuse my language, but that's somebody has to do it.
1:31:21
You know?
1:31:21
Somebody has to do it.
1:31:22
That's what you're here for.
1:31:23
It goes back to the Carson Wentz thing too.
1:31:26
It's like, bro, you shouldn't have been out there when when you saw what was happening to
1:31:30
him, yet you come on after the game and say, well, Carson told me that he wanted I don't
1:31:34
care what Carson told you.
1:31:36
Like, you are the head coach.
1:31:38
Carson, you got it.
1:31:39
Sometimes you have to steal the players from themselves.
1:31:42
You know?
1:31:43
So it's what it is, man.
1:31:46
No.
1:31:46
I mean, Andrew, with that comment there, I've been saying that
1:31:50
Oh, yeah.
1:31:51
For a while.
1:31:51
Yeah.
1:31:52
Keep case.
1:31:52
Run it back.
1:31:54
And and and who was in that draft that, you know, we draft that.
1:31:58
I forgot who it was.
1:31:59
A defensive back, two picks later or two picks before Lamar Jackson.
1:32:03
You draft Lamar Jackson.
1:32:05
You bring Case back.
1:32:06
You had Teddy Bridgewater.
1:32:07
You run it back.
1:32:08
Open open competition.
1:32:11
And okay.
1:32:11
If case is the case, then we go with it.
1:32:14
But then you got a Lamar Jackson, a young, you know, guy back there if he's not the case.
1:32:20
So I I'm glad somebody finally said that.
1:32:23
I've been saying I've
1:32:24
been on that train too.
1:32:25
Yo.
1:32:25
I've been on that one.
1:32:27
I've been on that one too.
1:32:28
That was stupid.
1:32:30
Just let
1:32:30
you Just so y'all know, man, I did not I do not like Kirk Cousins.
1:32:34
Didn't like him.
1:32:35
No.
1:32:35
Great guy.
1:32:36
Great guy.
1:32:37
You know, off the field role model type guy.
1:32:39
You know, you look at him and you say, you know what?
1:32:41
I I would love to meet him and and just pick his brand.
1:32:44
You couldn't give him that money.
1:32:45
But on the field, man, no, sir.
1:32:48
Man, that my whole team was started behind
1:32:51
I mean, that contract changed everybody's contract.
1:32:53
Now everybody's looking for that fully guaranteed contract, and, you know, we're the
1:32:57
ones to blame for that.
1:32:59
So
1:32:59
And that would that that might in my opinion, that might go down as one of the worst moves
1:33:03
the Vikings ever did in in my fandom.
1:33:05
So, you know, so that was just that was just one of the most You
1:33:08
haven't been around for the Herschel Walker trade then?
1:33:11
I I mean, I heard about the Herschel.
1:33:13
Mean, I I was a fan since '99.
1:33:15
So, you know Okay.
1:33:16
It it's but, like, I'm talking, like, I'm into it.
1:33:19
I'm I'm actually looking at cap.
1:33:22
I'm looking
1:33:22
at these and Thank you, class.
1:33:24
Cousins one pissed me off, man.
1:33:26
Look at class g, man.
1:33:28
Shout out to class g.
1:33:29
Let's you.
1:33:30
Yeah.
1:33:30
Let's go.
1:33:31
Man.
1:33:33
Yeah.
1:33:35
I I agree.
1:33:37
Some attitude, that cockiness, clowning energy.
1:33:40
You know?
1:33:40
I he's gonna he's gonna be more mature.
1:33:44
He's gonna pick his spots a little bit better, but I even love when he's in the press
1:33:48
conference after the Dallas game.
1:33:49
And, like, yeah, they told me not to practice, but I did it anyway.
1:33:53
Yeah.
1:33:53
Yeah.
1:33:54
I'm gonna be me.
1:33:55
I'm a do what I'm gonna do.
1:33:57
I don't care.
1:33:58
You know?
1:33:58
Like, to me, as long as it doesn't cost the team on the field, I don't give a fuck what you
1:34:02
do, man.
1:34:03
Have at it, buddy.
1:34:04
Because I see the team is too nice.
1:34:06
Like, the whole Minnesota nice thing.
1:34:08
Yeah, man.
1:34:08
Let's do some damn football games.
1:34:10
Let's smack people around a little bit.
1:34:12
On the and talking about the Minnesota nice thing, and we were touching on some of the
1:34:16
things with them bringing in Minnesota guys.
1:34:20
Rep, what are your feelings on Adam Thielen and his comments during the season about finding
1:34:25
his love for the game again and now officially retiring?
1:34:29
Do you wanna see him come back and retire in purple as someone who Yeah.
1:34:33
Is an out of state fan?
1:34:35
Yeah.
1:34:35
I mean, yeah, I do I wanna see him retire in purple.
1:34:38
I love Adam Thielen, man.
1:34:39
I think Adam Thielen first of all, I think this year, I'll I'll just I'll stand I'll die on the
1:34:44
sword.
1:34:44
Right?
1:34:45
I was advocating to bring Adam Thielen back this year because I had different vision for
1:34:49
him.
1:34:49
See, what happened was KOC sold him a pipe dream.
1:34:52
That's what happened.
1:34:53
They they sold they sold Adam Thielen and said, hey.
1:34:56
We're gonna use you here.
1:34:57
We're gonna do this.
1:34:58
We're gonna do that.
1:34:59
And then when the season started, guess what?
1:35:01
Kevin O'Connell once again, horrible play calling, sold him a pipe dream, and I'm a tell
1:35:06
you, Adam Thielen's gonna come out eventually and tell the truth.
1:35:09
I know he is.
1:35:09
Because now that he ain't playing football anymore, he gonna get on one of them podcasts,
1:35:13
we gonna hear about it, and I can't wait to do the video about it.
1:35:17
Because I know
1:35:17
what you're on this one.
1:35:18
I cussed him out when he made the statements in in pits before, you know, going
1:35:22
back to first.
1:35:23
I feel you.
1:35:24
I feel you on that.
1:35:24
Like, you know, there you have reason.
1:35:26
You have a right to to to say and feel how you wanna feel about that.
1:35:29
I like Adam Thielen as a player just because he has that he was that underdog.
1:35:33
I'm always gonna root for the underdog the way he had to come up and then becoming one of the
1:35:38
better wide receivers in the NFL for a stretch of a couple years, you know, coming from where
1:35:42
he came from.
1:35:43
I mean, you gotta root for the kid.
1:35:44
Right?
1:35:45
But, again, this year right here could have been different if KOC would have stuck to his
1:35:49
word and not lied to him.
1:35:51
And that's why he wanted to get out, man.
1:35:52
You know, he's like, bro, you told me you told me one thing, but then when the season started,
1:35:57
you got me doing something else, man.
1:35:58
You could just see the frustration from the beginning.
1:36:00
I'm not saying Adam Thielen.
1:36:02
And when I was advocating for Thielen, I knew that he wasn't gonna come back to being the
1:36:06
thousand yard receiver and I knew that wasn't the case.
1:36:10
My my whole vision for Adam Thielen in 2025 was, hey, third down because he has sure hands.
1:36:16
He he can be and he's good with spacing.
1:36:19
When you needed him on third down and and and crucial downs, Adam Thielen is somebody you
1:36:24
wanna look at because Justin Jefferson's gonna be pulling people.
1:36:27
Jordan Addison will be pulling people.
1:36:29
Hey.
1:36:30
Adam Thielen can make that catch.
1:36:31
He can make that catch.
1:36:33
Right?
1:36:33
So that's what I was looking forward to, and, obviously, it didn't happen.
1:36:36
You know?
1:36:37
He was on the sideline half the time.
1:36:39
It is what it is.
1:36:40
Yeah.
1:36:41
Well and I think the the drop off in in his skills, obviously, the speed wasn't there.
1:36:46
He wasn't Yeah.
1:36:47
I mean, you just this game catches up to you fast, man.
1:36:50
There are guys that are ten years younger than you, fresh out of college without all the bumps
1:36:55
and bruises along the way and without families at home too.
1:36:59
You know, we like to think that these guys can show up and do a job, but that stuff matters.
1:37:03
Right?
1:37:03
You know?
1:37:03
And and that's what I said with, you know, the young JJ McCarthy got married, had a baby this
1:37:09
season.
1:37:09
You know?
1:37:09
Like, there are a lot of things going on in this young man's personal life as well off the
1:37:14
field that are gonna have an effect on you.
1:37:16
Should it when you're making the kind of money that they are?
1:37:18
No.
1:37:18
But it's going to.
1:37:19
They're human beings, man.
1:37:20
Like, those thing you that baby keeping you up all night, you know, because you haven't got
1:37:25
that big check yet.
1:37:26
Right?
1:37:26
Like, you you can't afford to pay the midwife to stay in house with you and to have all the
1:37:31
amenities that somebody that's making tens of millions of dollars a year as an NFL
1:37:35
quarterback could have.
1:37:37
Right?
1:37:37
So there's a lot going on.
1:37:39
I'm not using that to, you know, scapegoat the kid out, but I thought JJ showed us a lot
1:37:44
towards the end of the season.
1:37:45
And he showed you enough to say that, you know, he deserves a shot to still be the starting
1:37:50
quarterback.
1:37:50
Now do you need to bring in somebody that can push him to be the best version of himself?
1:37:55
Undoubtedly.
1:37:56
Because that's not Max Brosmer.
1:37:57
Right?
1:37:58
And that sure as hell wasn't Carson Wentz either.
1:38:00
So I think they kind of you know, I think the Daniel Jones thing Daniel Jones leaving, I
1:38:06
think they thought they had him in the bag, bringing him in at the end of the season last
1:38:09
year.
1:38:09
Like, this is gonna be our guy.
1:38:10
And then that Colts come knocking.
1:38:13
And, obviously, he was justified to say, hey, man.
1:38:16
I'm gonna have a better chance to start over there beating that guy out than beating JJ out
1:38:21
for a job.
1:38:22
And, honestly, he was probably he was right.
1:38:25
I mean, he would Daniel Jones was justified in making the move that he did.
1:38:28
I mean, his career might be done before it even really gets momentum, man.
1:38:33
Like, that Achilles injury is not an easy one to come back from.
1:38:36
You're probably never gonna be the same guy either.
1:38:39
So I don't know that he's done enough in his career and kinda just getting started here to
1:38:45
prove that he's gonna come back and be a starter in the league again.
1:38:48
Maybe a serviceable backup, but I don't think he's someone that's challenging JJ for that
1:38:53
starting job or pushing him in the way that you want to.
1:38:56
Yeah.
1:38:57
No.
1:38:58
For sure.
1:38:59
For sure, man.
1:38:59
Shout out Jackson, man.
1:39:00
Skull from Idaho.
1:39:02
Yeah.
1:39:02
Hell yeah, man.
1:39:03
Idaho.
1:39:05
Idaho.
1:39:06
Idaho.
1:39:07
Skoll.
1:39:07
There you go.
1:39:07
I like it.
1:39:08
He's getting that tattoo.
1:39:10
Jackson, we're gonna give you your your super chat money back, and you gotta get Ida Skoll
1:39:16
tattooed
1:39:16
on you.
1:39:17
Don't if you have it, man.
1:39:18
Who's yet, but you're gonna have one now.
1:39:22
I gotta get the sound yeah.
1:39:23
I gotta get the sound effects going, man.
1:39:25
I gotta up my game.
1:39:26
I'm still a little new to StreamYard.
1:39:28
Man, it's good, man.
1:39:29
It's all gravy, man.
1:39:30
Street, just hit me up.
1:39:32
I got you, man.
1:39:32
I'll plug you in
1:39:33
with everything you need.
1:39:34
Appreciate that.
1:39:37
Yeah, man.
1:39:38
Street walking potato.
1:39:39
I don't know what that means, nor
1:39:41
is Speaking of speaking of JJ, I think, like, towards you know, when you were speaking about
1:39:45
it towards the end of the season, I think I think it it was it was evident to see that he
1:39:52
was getting used to the the speed of the game.
1:39:54
I think that's really I think that's really what we were waiting for.
1:39:58
We were waiting for we were waiting for him to catch up, and and he finally did.
1:40:03
And and that's what we saw at the end of the season.
1:40:05
So, like, I I expect this 2026 season I mean, I expect him to come in, hitting the ground
1:40:13
running and being able to know, like, alright.
1:40:16
This is the speed.
1:40:17
This is where we're at.
1:40:18
I need to make these decisions like this.
1:40:20
I can't hold on to the ball.
1:40:21
I gotta if I see it, I gotta I gotta let it go.
1:40:24
Gotta rip it, man.
1:40:25
I Yeah.
1:40:26
You gotta rip it.
1:40:27
How many times early in the season where I was he get back there, and it was just rip it.
1:40:31
Like, you're speaking and I felt like he was seeing the field okay.
1:40:34
He just wasn't making that decision fast enough, and those gaps closed.
1:40:37
Real
1:40:37
fast throw them open.
1:40:39
Don't stay yeah.
1:40:40
Guys don't stay open.
1:40:41
When you see it, you just gotta throw it.
1:40:43
And I felt like he was starting to do that towards the end of the season.
1:40:46
And that was the disappointing part about the about the injury last year because you were
1:40:52
hoping that behind Darnold, who was the starter, who you knew was gonna be the starter,
1:40:56
that he was gonna have those practice reps and that learning.
1:40:59
And not being on the field for a year is a really tough thing to come back from for any
1:41:03
player.
1:41:04
It regardless of quarterback or anywhere else on the field, it's a tough thing when you don't
1:41:09
have the experience already stacked up to be able to come in missing that time and to hit
1:41:14
the ground running like that.
1:41:15
It just
1:41:16
Man, I think it's safe to say if JJ would have played all 17 games, we would have been a
1:41:20
playoff team.
1:41:21
But it was a
1:41:22
Yeah.
1:41:22
No doubt.
1:41:23
We had the playoffs.
1:41:24
We win one more game for sure.
1:41:26
Absolutely.
1:41:27
You know, probably one of those early games.
1:41:29
Right?
1:41:29
One of the overseas games that we didn't.
1:41:32
The Steelers game, probably.
1:41:33
I I think you could see that one pulling out.
1:41:36
Yeah.
1:41:37
And then you're in.
1:41:38
Right?
1:41:38
And the Packers are out.
1:41:39
Like, you're this close.
1:41:41
Or if Jordan Addison plays or, like, so many things.
1:41:45
KOC wants to fucking run the ball.
1:41:47
You know?
1:41:47
Like, there's so many little things during the 17 game season that could have gone slightly
1:41:54
different, and the whole attitude of this season has changed.
1:42:00
Yeah.
1:42:01
Yeah, man.
1:42:01
Well then but I'm I'm wondering, you know, you had mentioned, you know, we know the wedding.
1:42:07
We know the baby.
1:42:09
Everything just boom boom boom, like, right after another, trying to learn an NFL offense
1:42:15
and then command it and run it smoothly.
1:42:19
You know, there were a few times where we were wasting timeouts, because the play call wasn't
1:42:24
coming in or there was something wrong with the play call.
1:42:28
You know, all that going on, all that excitement, did that get in the way of him
1:42:34
getting into that playbook and knowing the play calls?
1:42:37
Was it, hey.
1:42:38
KOCs in the mic, rattling off a play, and, McCarthy's like, oh, shit.
1:42:44
Yeah.
1:42:44
Never heard this one before.
1:42:46
Like, just just because you made it doesn't mean you made it.
1:42:51
You know?
1:42:52
You still have work to do.
1:42:54
You know, every bar you set and then you, achieve, there's still gonna be another one
1:42:59
set.
1:43:00
So he just I I hope that he's, reflects, you know, he's big on meditation.
1:43:07
And, so I I hope that he reflects on this year, you know, harvest the good.
1:43:12
It is what it is.
1:43:14
Let go and let God.
1:43:16
And, you know, comes back next year, you know, more focused, you know, takes everything and is
1:43:25
more intentional about everything.
1:43:27
Small details, everything.
1:43:29
Yeah.
1:43:29
Any any any fan that's sitting back, you know, and and this goes to the JJ haters
1:43:34
specifically.
1:43:35
Any any JJ hater that's sitting back and saying, oh, we have no chance at all with JJ
1:43:40
McCarthy in 2026, they know they're lying
1:43:43
to themselves. Right. Right.
1:43:43
themselves.
1:43:44
Right.
1:43:44
Right.
1:43:44
You know?
1:43:45
Like, they know they they just don't like JJ McCarthy.
1:43:48
You know?
1:43:48
And and I know where that I know that feeling because I was like that with Kirk Cousins.
1:43:53
So I I understand I understand totally because Kirk Cousins would throw for 4,000 yards and
1:43:59
all this, and I still felt no different.
1:44:01
I was like, I don't care.
1:44:02
Like, for real, I don't care what he does.
1:44:04
And if you don't win a Super Bowl, I don't want him.
1:44:06
I don't I just you know?
1:44:07
And there's and, unfortunately, there's fans like that across every fan base, and JJ's
1:44:13
McCarthy's no different.
1:44:14
He's gonna have those fans too.
1:44:15
Until he wins a Super Bowl, there you're gonna have the haters that are gonna talk about him
1:44:20
and say he's not good enough.
1:44:21
You know?
1:44:22
But it's about us, the ones that do believe, understanding the game the the game of
1:44:27
football, you know, which all you fellas on this panel understand the game of football.
1:44:31
When you watch him, you could see the progression.
1:44:34
You can see that there's something there.
1:44:36
This isn't a bus situation because we've seen multiple bus situations where you like like,
1:44:41
for example, Max Brosber.
1:44:43
Like, you watch that, and you're like, okay.
1:44:46
This this would this this is never gonna happen.
1:44:48
Right?
1:44:48
You watch JJ McCarthy, you're like, okay.
1:44:51
This is gonna happen.
1:44:52
It's just about when.
1:44:53
So
1:44:54
that's kinda where we're at, and 2026 could could be that year, man.
1:44:57
That's what I'm looking forward to.
1:44:59
No.
1:44:59
A 100%.
1:45:00
I agree with everything you just said, man.
1:45:02
Because, like, just the the confidence in him, like, you know, he's he's young.
1:45:08
Yeah.
1:45:08
He's really young, but he trots out there, and we're like, alright.
1:45:13
Let's go to work.
1:45:14
We got this.
1:45:16
You know?
1:45:16
But we've had multiple quarterbacks in the past or, you know, we find out who's starting, and
1:45:21
we're like, shit.
1:45:22
Like Yeah.
1:45:23
I can't do nothing about it.
1:45:25
Joe Webb, Hip Carson, Christian Ponder, Tavares Jackson, like, we were always iffy with them
1:45:33
guys.
1:45:34
Always.
1:45:34
And and the thing is though, Cody, you named off all those guys, and every draft, the
1:45:40
Vikings panicked and and drafted that guy.
1:45:42
I mean, I remember I think it was the the part of Jackson pick where they asked Mel Kuiper who
1:45:48
this guy was, and he barely could say anything because he's just like, I didn't have him on my
1:45:53
board at this high, you know, so I wasn't really paying attention.
1:45:56
So Yeah.
1:45:57
RIP to it.
1:45:58
RIP to the brother though for sure.
1:46:00
Oh, yeah.
1:46:02
Yeah.
1:46:02
Absolutely, man.
1:46:03
No.
1:46:04
That's I'm glad.
1:46:05
Man, look, JJ is the right guy, period, man.
1:46:08
Anybody anybody who mad man be mad.
1:46:10
You just gonna be mad.
1:46:11
You know what I'm saying?
1:46:12
When he when he when he go out there in 2026 and get us them dubs, you'd be alright.
1:46:16
For sure.
1:46:16
You'd be alright.
1:46:17
Hopefully hopefully, the bikers don't do nothing crazy, though.
1:46:19
I know y'all talking about the Joe Burrow, don't Morgan.
1:46:22
Bubba, you talking about don't Morgan the future.
1:46:24
Hey.
1:46:24
Look.
1:46:25
We gotta hey.
1:46:26
With this front office, man, I don't know, bro.
1:46:28
I'm just gonna sit back and wait because they could do some rational stuff, man.
1:46:32
You know?
1:46:33
They I don't know.
1:46:34
Couldn't get mad because their job is on the line.
1:46:37
You know?
1:46:37
The one thing's for sure, time is not on their side.
1:46:40
You know?
1:46:41
And, you know, when they drafted JJ McCarthy, time was still on their side.
1:46:45
They had grace.
1:46:46
Time's not on their side anymore.
1:46:47
They know that if they don't perform in this this season, they know that it's it's it's over
1:46:53
with.
1:46:53
It's a wrap.
1:46:54
Thirty years.
1:46:54
It's over with.
1:46:56
It's done.
1:46:56
Like, they're they're out of here.
1:46:57
So with that being said, it it'd be easy for them to convince the wilfs or whoever else they
1:47:03
need to convince and say, hey, guys.
1:47:05
We have to go for this type of play.
1:47:07
Like, these type of players don't we're gonna hear this whole spiel of these type of players
1:47:11
just don't become available.
1:47:13
We're we're we're in a situation where we have a player of his stature that's available.
1:47:18
We have to swing for defensive line.
1:47:20
I'm telling you, I'm I'm I wouldn't be surprised if the speech happens.
1:47:23
That's all I'm saying.
1:47:25
Oh, the speak the speech has happened, but, I mean, you can't I mean okay.
1:47:31
We get Joel Burrow.
1:47:33
I've seen a lot of reports that JJ is part of the deal, first round pick.
1:47:37
Now we're back in the boat again where, okay, who's our backup?
1:47:40
Who's our franchise quarterback?
1:47:41
Because Burrow is injured from how many years is he gonna play?
1:47:45
You know?
1:47:46
And is he the answer?
1:47:47
I mean
1:47:48
Yeah.
1:47:48
I mean, if we could get said god for cheap and still keep JJ, I'd I'd be open to it.
1:47:55
Yeah.
1:47:55
But I don't wanna kill JJ's confidence either with the stud, you know, with the guy.
1:47:59
Which would.
1:48:00
Which would.
1:48:01
Yeah.
1:48:01
Yeah.
1:48:02
So I'm I'm all for keeping JJ for one more year and to see where it goes, and and people are
1:48:07
throwing out the comments, you know, let's see what happens.
1:48:10
You know.
1:48:10
But again, one play.
1:48:13
I mean, somebody brought it up earlier, the Chicago bears game, that second one.
1:48:17
Yeah.
1:48:18
If we would've stopped that kick return, we're probably playoffs.
1:48:21
And the Vikings the Vikings were that scary team that nobody wanted to play because they
1:48:25
were fighting their stride and beating the teams that they should have been beaten, but
1:48:30
they're beating them pretty good.
1:48:31
So Exactly.
1:48:32
Yeah.
1:48:32
That one play, you know, could have been something else.
1:48:35
So
1:48:36
We we were like Bubba said earlier in the show, we were actually where everybody expected us to
1:48:43
be, honestly.
1:48:44
Like, you know, that's why I don't get I mean, I get the frustration of not making the
1:48:48
playoffs because, obviously, going into every season, we always, you know, playoffs, 10 wins,
1:48:54
and things like that.
1:48:55
But in reality, we kinda we were where we were expected to be, nine to 10 wins, and that's
1:49:01
what we did.
1:49:02
You know what I mean?
1:49:02
We we missed the playoffs.
1:49:05
And and, yes, that's unfortunate, but, again, a couple plays.
1:49:08
I mean, that bears game, like you said, that one stands out the most because Mhmm.
1:49:12
AJ McCarthy was struggling during that game.
1:49:15
He was he couldn't really find And
1:49:16
And the defense was bottling them up.
1:49:18
Right?
1:49:18
Like, when they all met mattered, he drove down.
1:49:21
And then back, and
1:49:21
they gotta go, you know, forty, fifty yards, and then they literally return the kick into
1:49:26
field goal range.
1:49:26
You're like,
1:49:27
what happened?
1:49:28
Yeah.
1:49:28
Vikings, man.
1:49:29
The Vikings way.
1:49:31
You know?
1:49:31
It's just the Vikings way.
1:49:32
It just isn't what it is.
1:49:34
That that's that's just what that's just what that was, but, you know, it's yeah.
1:49:38
You know, I I look forward to this season.
1:49:40
You know?
1:49:41
I look forward to touching base with you guys again throughout this off season too and doing
1:49:45
this some more and and really
1:49:47
Oh, yeah.
1:49:47
Talking about some Minnesota Vikings football, man.
1:49:49
This was great.
1:49:50
I wanna get I wanna get you guys over on my channel as well.
1:49:54
Okay.
1:49:54
You know, we could do one at a time altogether if y'all a package deal, however we wanna do
1:49:59
it.
1:49:59
I know we streamed it on my channel tonight, but, you know, we'll set up a specific one,
1:50:02
man, and go party for sure.
1:50:04
Yeah, man.
1:50:04
I I know we're down for any of that.
1:50:07
Coach Cody's a great get.
1:50:09
Bee and I both snipe him for our own shows.
1:50:12
Let's go.
1:50:13
Alrighty.
1:50:13
So just having someone with as much ball experience as he has as a player, as a coach,
1:50:20
as a GM, totally invaluable, man.
1:50:23
And I think he's kind of our ace in the hole with this network, but also being open to
1:50:27
having everybody on.
1:50:28
Like, I'm trying to get Norsvias and Nick, who I think is pop punk skull.
1:50:33
Yeah.
1:50:33
Don't know, man.
1:50:34
I wanna get them on for our draft coverage stuff.
1:50:36
Right?
1:50:36
They got some great names they're throwing around.
1:50:38
I'm I'm I don't have time, man.
1:50:40
I'm running 13 shows.
1:50:42
I got four networks.
1:50:43
Like Holy.
1:50:44
I'm I I I like Vikings football, but it's my job to produce this thing and get it out there.
1:50:50
Yeah.
1:50:50
I leave the ball really to Cody.
1:50:52
Big b is kind of the stat guy.
1:50:54
I don't have a clue what's going on half the time.
1:50:56
I'm just trying to keep the train on the tracks, Wrap.
1:50:59
Nice.
1:50:59
Nice.
1:50:59
Well, you're doing a great job, man.
1:51:01
You're doing a great job at it.
1:51:02
For sure.
1:51:02
You're doing
1:51:03
a great
1:51:03
job at Your fans got the chat popping.
1:51:05
I love this, the engagement and being able to bring people in, and that's what it's about,
1:51:09
man.
1:51:10
Kinda turning this into, you know, like a barroom would be for all of us Vikings fans
1:51:14
scattered across The US and and, you know, internationally.
1:51:18
Know as well this show's a little late for our, European, Vikings fans.
1:51:24
But, if they're staying up till three, 04:00 in the morning to hang out with this man, more
1:51:28
power to them.
1:51:29
So lot more draft coverage coming from us, man.
1:51:32
We'd love to have you back in the future.
1:51:33
I I know any of us individually or together would love to come on your channel and talk
1:51:38
some more ball, man.
1:51:40
For sure.
1:51:41
Yeah.
1:51:41
No.
1:51:41
I'll definitely be reaching out, man.
1:51:42
You know, I gotta get out here tonight.
1:51:44
But, hey.
1:51:45
I had a great time.
1:51:46
You know?
1:51:47
This was this was amazing.
1:51:48
So I appreciate you fellas, and we'll we'll definitely get together, man.
1:51:52
We'll get together.
1:51:53
Awesome, man.
1:51:54
Well, hey.
1:51:54
You all know.
1:51:55
That's wrap.
1:51:56
Vocal vic, joining us tonight.
1:51:59
Special guesting with us.
1:52:00
Let's go.
1:52:00
We, we appreciate you, man.
1:52:02
Appreciate you bringing in all your fans with you too.
1:52:04
And, rap, have a great night, man.
1:52:06
We'll be in touch, brother.
1:52:08
Yes, sir.
1:52:09
Alright.
1:52:13
That was awesome.
1:52:14
That was awesome.
1:52:15
Well, that was great.
1:52:16
I mean, yeah, they got a good, you know, following day.
1:52:19
Definitely can't wait wait to get on more shows with him on his show on here.
1:52:24
You know, some of the comments, I mean, are are just dead on.
1:52:29
So, yeah, it's definitely gonna be a good off season for us to get prepared for next season.
1:52:34
Yeah.
1:52:35
No.
1:52:35
He nice.
1:52:36
He left the stream open too for us, so we still get to talk to some of his fans.
1:52:40
You guys make sure you, yeah.
1:52:41
Throsus subscribed.
1:52:43
Norsfius, I put my email into the chat here.
1:52:47
I'll throw it up on the screen again too.
1:52:50
I'd love to hear from you, man.
1:52:51
Would love to hear from you guys.
1:52:53
Would love to bring you onto the show, talk some ball with you, and, talk about this draft
1:52:58
coming up.
1:52:59
We, we got a lot of holes to fill on this team.
1:53:03
I I know we've talked about it, extensively, but, there there's a lot that is going to, a
1:53:11
lot that's gonna happen this year that shapes the next three years of this team.
1:53:17
So I would say, by far, the most important, the most important off season of the Quasi
1:53:25
O'Connell era because this team was kinda put together a little bit to win before they got
1:53:33
here.
1:53:34
Right?
1:53:34
That's why you had the double digit winning seasons that they had kind of first starting
1:53:38
out.
1:53:39
So, yeah, I'm gonna post my email up in there.
1:53:42
You guys just shoot me an email real quick, and I'll make sure that we connect.
1:53:46
And, yeah, then we can get you a link.
1:53:48
Well, Bubba, mean, you're right that, you know, this upcoming year is gonna be, you know,
1:53:55
building for the next three years because if it falls apart again, you know, we've already
1:54:01
talked about it, you're gonna fire KLC, you're gonna fire, you know, the GM, and you're gonna
1:54:07
be starting over.
1:54:08
So we need to have a good year for us to show that, yeah, you know, three, four years, you
1:54:15
know, are there.
1:54:16
But if if we have another bad year, then, yeah, we're gonna be talking about, you know,
1:54:21
firing We'll be talking about head coach Brian Flores leading the Vikings in twenty twenty
1:54:26
seven, twenty eight.
1:54:27
Facts.
1:54:28
Facts.
1:54:28
Real quick.
1:54:30
I think, yeah, that that's no joke there.
1:54:33
Appreciate y'all subscribing to the channel, man.
1:54:36
You guys have been a blast tonight.
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Anything we didn't touch on you guys wanna talk about before we let everybody go tonight?
1:55:20
God.
1:55:21
What did we touch on?
1:55:22
I mean So much happening.
1:55:25
Yeah.
1:55:25
I mean, there's a lot we did I mean, I don't think there's anything we really didn't touch
1:55:31
on.
1:55:32
You know, we talked a lot of, you know, football coming up.
1:55:35
I mean, we really didn't talk about the matchup for the Super Bowl.
1:55:37
I mean, we got a week to talk about that.
1:55:39
But Correct.
1:55:40
Right.
1:55:41
Overall We'll do we'll do picks
1:55:43
on the Super Bowl and everything on our show next Tuesday, obviously, kinda leading up into
1:55:48
the game.
1:55:49
Would expect a lot of I would expect a few coach signings, I think, through the rest of
1:55:55
this week, which is kind of the tragedy about doing a show on Tuesday is that so much of the
1:56:00
news ends up happening Wednesday, Thursday, Friday in the league.
1:56:03
But, it gives us plenty to talk about next week and no football this weekend.
1:56:08
That's weird.
1:56:08
This pause in between, right, is so strange because you've had, what, like, twenty weeks in
1:56:14
a row, twenty two weeks in a row of of football, including
1:56:18
the college football and Right.
1:56:21
Right.
1:56:21
The senior game.
1:56:22
But, you know, Rap Rap touched on something, you know, that was you know, I didn't really
1:56:26
think of.
1:56:27
You know, the Vikings haven't done nothing.
1:56:29
I mean, yes, it's early, you know, but you see teams pick a player here, pick a coach here,
1:56:35
you know, we let a couple coaches walk, but, you know, I I hope the Vikings start looking at
1:56:40
the free agencies and be like, hey.
1:56:42
Can we bring this guy in?
1:56:43
Who do we cut?
1:56:44
I mean, we're gonna have to make have to make cuts before we start signing people, but, yeah,
1:56:48
we definitely have to be more noise.
1:56:49
Like, I don't know if there's a date that they're waiting for to do that because for me,
1:56:55
like, there's a couple of guys that you could already like, the there's a couple that are
1:57:00
tough, like, conversations to have, but you could have done had them already and start
1:57:06
cleaning up your books so that you can move forward.
1:57:09
Like somebody pointed out earlier, this team just drags their feet, and then you end up with
1:57:12
the hand me downs because you're not there out there in the front Right.
1:57:15
Getting the job done.
1:57:17
So, like, get off the pot, man, and get Right.
1:57:20
Get some things done.
1:57:21
You you know that yeah.
1:57:23
I I think I don't even think I mean, we've talked about a restructure with Hawk.
1:57:26
I think you just gotta let us sleep in dog like, just let it go and get younger and fix
1:57:32
that position.
1:57:33
I don't think there's any reason to keep him around.
1:57:36
I don't think he's going to be effective for you next season, which sucks.
1:57:40
I you know, the Hawk is part owner of Pillars of Valor, so I hate to kinda talk shit, but,
1:57:45
you know, I'm
1:57:46
I'm gonna try to grab on that.
1:57:47
Yeah.
1:57:47
You know
1:57:48
what I mean?
1:57:48
But but, ultimately, the business is business.
1:57:50
Right?
1:57:51
Like, we just you know, it it is what it is, man.
1:57:53
You know, I know we just had a baby.
1:57:55
He's made plenty of money.
1:57:56
Right?
1:57:57
Like, he's made the money.
1:57:58
He's gonna get a nice payout.
1:58:00
Like, even if they cut him, he's still getting paid.
1:58:03
Right?
1:58:04
Like, it just comes off the books.
1:58:05
He still gets a nice little check-in that.
1:58:08
Right?
1:58:08
There's a severance package to the
1:58:10
And that and that's what the joker's pointing out is we need that, you know, and maybe that's
1:58:15
what we look for outside the first overall or our first pick is, you know, picks two through
1:58:21
whatever.
1:58:23
You know, maybe we're drafting for depth, you know.
1:58:26
Frozen North, Rap just had a dip out, man.
1:58:28
He's on the East Coast time.
1:58:29
It's 11:00 out there.
1:58:31
We're we're still on his channel.
1:58:32
We're just getting ready to say goodbye, though.
1:58:34
Yeah.
1:58:35
Kinda wrapping up our loose ends.
1:58:37
But shout out to Rap for joining us tonight.
1:58:38
It was really awesome of him to get there.
1:58:41
Absolutely.
1:58:42
Norsfias.
1:58:43
Yeah.
1:58:43
Eli Heidenreich.
1:58:45
Okay.
1:58:46
Middle class Christian McCaffrey.
1:58:48
Okay.
1:58:49
Okay.
1:58:49
We'll
1:58:49
take that.
1:58:50
We'll we'll take that.
1:58:52
But yeah.
1:58:53
No.
1:58:54
You know, with the Vikings coaching, openings and them dragging their feet, I think they'd
1:59:01
had to wait.
1:59:02
You know, we we mentioned this earlier, but they had to wait.
1:59:05
Number one priority was gonna be bleep b flow.
1:59:08
And now that you got him for three years, now you see, okay, what kind of people do you want
1:59:14
under you?
1:59:15
You know what I'm saying?
1:59:16
So I would expect a lot of dominoes to start falling here in the next week or two.
1:59:22
You know, a lot of teams that were still coaching for the playoffs in the playoffs, and
1:59:26
now their coaches are gonna be available, and stuff like that.
1:59:30
So, I I really hope that we start to make some moves and just, get a plan.
1:59:36
One of the fans, commented saying that we, you know, we just always take our time on things.
1:59:42
It's it's go time.
1:59:43
You know?
1:59:44
The they don't their time is ticking, three years, if not, maybe two, and then their
1:59:49
decision's gonna be made on if they wanna continue or not or just clean house.
1:59:53
So they they gotta get their ass in gear quick.
1:59:58
Yep.
1:59:58
Bubba, what are the chances Cody's already put an application in for that opening, DV job?
2:00:03
He better, man.
2:00:04
I I don't know how we're gonna get him the job, but, you know, that's what we're waiting for.
2:00:10
Hey.
2:00:10
I'll I'll I'll take it.
2:00:11
I'll I'll take it, but I feel like it'd be a slap in the face if Harrison Smith did at least
2:00:17
get something.
2:00:19
You know?
2:00:19
Who knows?
2:00:19
I mean, who knows if he wants to.
2:00:21
Right?
2:00:21
Maybe he wants to step away.
2:00:23
I know he's got a young family.
2:00:24
Right?
2:00:25
And, you know, and the coaching coaching is just as just as taxing on your time as, you
2:00:31
know, playing the game, and you're not getting the juice of being on the field.
2:00:34
So maybe he wants a little time away from the game.
2:00:37
Now it would be malpractice for the Vikings not to offer that to him, but maybe in more of a,
2:00:43
like, a special assistant type role or, you know, mentorship role with the team for a few
2:00:48
years.
2:00:48
Let him spend some time with his family.
2:00:50
This this man is dedicated, you know, over a decade to this team and, you know, showing up,
2:00:56
not just being a stand up guy, but, you know, being a face of this franchise.
2:01:01
So, pretty pretty awesome, man.
2:01:04
Pretty awesome.
2:01:06
Yeah.
2:01:06
Well, shout out to everybody joining us on the, on, Wrap's channel.
2:01:12
It's been a pleasure, man, getting to commandeer his channel, have all you guys
2:01:16
in with us, get to
2:01:16
introduce what we do to you all.
2:01:19
You know, we're just we're just fans out here doing the same thing that that they do and, you
2:01:25
know, trying to put out a product and get these takes out here.
2:01:28
You know?
2:01:28
We can't get all of our you know, I I still rely heavily on, like, Purple Daily for the
2:01:33
news side of it, but I don't always agree with them on everything either.
2:01:36
Right?
2:01:37
And we should all have a place to be able to Mhmm.
2:01:42
Get our thoughts out.
2:01:44
Right?
2:01:44
So I really appreciate really appreciate you all.
2:01:47
Norsvius.
2:01:48
Yeah.
2:01:49
Barbara, Norsvius, Nick, y'all, man, I would love to have you on our draft coverage, get you
2:01:56
on the show with us too, and we go every Tuesday.
2:01:59
We go every Tuesday at 8PM on our s s SPSN YouTube channel here.
2:02:06
So through my through my email out there for you guys, just shoot me an email.
2:02:11
We can get in touch that way, and then I'll get you a link on Tuesdays.
2:02:15
And if you wanna tap in, tap in, man.
2:02:17
We'd love to have you all.
2:02:18
So Absolutely.
2:02:19
With that,
2:02:20
I, you know, appreciate you all.
2:02:23
Thanks for subscribing over to our channel as well.
2:02:26
I hope that we get a chance to return the favor to rap and to come on and join him as cohost.
2:02:33
Y'all kept me busy in the chat, man.
2:02:34
I appreciate it.
2:02:35
I I had a great time tonight running the show and just kinda hanging out.
2:02:39
My name is Bubba Starts.
2:02:40
That's coach Cody Hamadall, up there.
2:02:43
He is a former GM and coach of the Saint Paul Bears, now coaching with the Wyoming Cavalry,
2:02:48
assistant head coach and defensive coordinator.
2:02:52
Big b is with the Coast to Coast Entertainment Network.
2:02:55
You can find them on YouTube as well.
2:02:57
You guys still doing your show?
2:02:58
You go all through the year, b?
2:03:00
Yeah.
2:03:00
We're we're gonna be doing our prime time blitz tomorrow covering, you know, some local news
2:03:08
with the PA announcer.
2:03:12
Won't get too much into details with that, but we'll do our picks.
2:03:16
We'll do, you know, the coaching moves, you know, who's should we be drafting?
2:03:20
Should we move up?
2:03:21
Should we move down?
2:03:22
You know, stuff like that.
2:03:24
Yeah.
2:03:25
We definitely will be going at least through the playoffs or the Super Bowl, and then we
2:03:29
will do a special draft coverage around one with Crispy Bacon and Tim Hendricks.
2:03:34
They break down those picks as they happen.
2:03:37
Love it.
2:03:38
And, yeah, Norspious, you were asking where we live, man.
2:03:41
Cody and Bea are both in Cannon Falls, Minnesota, and I am down in rural South Dakota,
2:03:48
just a little town in Southeast South Dakota, man, about five hours outside of Minneapolis.
2:03:52
So yeah.
2:03:55
Hey.
2:03:55
My my my old buddy is BigB too.
2:03:58
He just on the show.
2:04:01
Shout out to y'all, man.
2:04:03
I appreciate Rap letting us So awesome.
2:04:05
Chime in on his channel and link in.
2:04:07
It's been a blast getting to hang with y'all tonight.
2:04:09
Glad you subscribed over to our channel.
2:04:11
Check us out Tuesday nights at 8PM live here on YouTube.
2:04:16
Check out b show, Wednesday nights.
2:04:18
You guys go at 10:00.
2:04:19
Right, b?
2:04:20
Yeah.
2:04:20
We go roughly about 10:00.
2:04:21
I mean, we do we do other shows too.
2:04:23
So we got baseball show coming up, wrestling.
2:04:26
So but definitely, I you know, help us check us out.
2:04:30
We'll definitely you know, we love doing these collaborations with everybody.
2:04:34
So, you know, work it out.
2:04:37
Don't go anywhere after the stream ends.
2:04:39
I got some baseball baseball news I wanna share with you.
2:04:42
Uh-oh.
2:04:42
I had an interesting conversation today.
2:04:44
So hang out for a few minutes after I get stream.
2:04:48
I know Garrison, man.
2:04:49
Yeah.
2:04:49
That's probably about an hour and a half away from me.
2:04:52
Elk Point.
2:04:53
Hell yeah, buddy.
2:04:54
You got it, Norse.
2:04:54
Hey.
2:04:55
Look forward to connecting with you all.
2:04:56
Norse, I hope you come and join us.
2:04:58
Talking some draft coverage.
2:04:59
Maybe in a couple of weeks, you can come back.
2:05:02
Keep stacking them up, man, because I have no idea what's going on.
2:05:04
I have no time to dedicate to looking up all these college players and figuring out where
2:05:09
we're gonna go.
2:05:10
I just run the show, man.
2:05:11
So Thank you, Cody.
2:05:12
Call.
2:05:13
Frozen, thank you, brother.
2:05:15
We we appreciate y'all tapping in with us, man.
2:05:17
This has been a blast here tonight.
2:05:19
Getting to getting to rap with rap is I mean, it's cool, man.
2:05:23
What a cool dude and some great takes.
2:05:25
And, you know, his fans got some really great takes too, so that was awesome to to
2:05:29
communicate with some people that, you know, you're on the level with.
2:05:32
We might disagree on some little things, but I think as far as the the direction of the team,
2:05:37
I I think we're kind of all in agreement on that.
2:05:40
So well, except Andre.
2:05:41
Andre's off the rails, but we appreciate that as we all appreciate you, Joker.
2:05:45
Thanks, y'all.
2:05:46
We hope Thank
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you, guys.
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