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Biggest takeaways from week 5 loss | Jags Drive Time: Monday, October 10 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Jacks Drive Time with Ashlyn Sullimsells, John Oshers,
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Speaker 1: Brian Sexton, wo Jags Drive Time. It starts right now
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Speaker 1: this place. I wish I had back to help the arguments,
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Speaker 1: Like I missed that check with that on it when
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Speaker 1: we was backed up. You know, we could have had him,
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Speaker 1: forced him punt the ball, get the ball back in midfield.
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Speaker 1: So it's complementary football. I think when we, you know,
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Speaker 1: allow a team to drive a little bit with a
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Speaker 1: doghents not you know, clinching the redsor we want to
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Speaker 1: give him many chances to get back at it. So
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Speaker 1: it's a it's a team mus. Whenever you lose a
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Speaker 1: team mus, I know I missed them, Tagris, I'm really
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Speaker 1: mad about but you know, uh, get back, focus on
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Speaker 1: practice to get better. I think we're toimes a team
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Speaker 1: that's an unemotional middle linebacker for a a Luican. Yesterday
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Speaker 1: in the locker room after the Jaguars third team to
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Speaker 1: six loss to the Houston Texans, do you want everybody,
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Speaker 1: I'm Brian Sexton along with John Osier, Ashlyn Sullivan his
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Speaker 1: own assignment. Okay, she's not. I thought that sounded good.
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Speaker 1: Uh So let's bring it. John. Hello, John, Hello Bran.
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Speaker 1: How are you this morning? You're saying way over on
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Speaker 1: the other side of the studio. Yeah, I guess I'm
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Speaker 1: supposed to be here and you are. No. Not good.
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Speaker 1: I mean, yesterday wasn't good. And uh, observers and fans
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Speaker 1: are angry and worried, and I think understandably. So, I mean,
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Speaker 1: we hyped this game and talked about this game, and
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Speaker 1: the players talked about the game as a test and
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Speaker 1: they didn't pass it. So and then I should apologize
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Speaker 1: to you because last Wednesday, Last last Wednesday, I said, John, John, relaxed,
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Speaker 1: there's no way they lose this game. Talking to players,
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Speaker 1: a couple of coaches, I asked them to you know,
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Speaker 1: does this team see the opportunity in front of it?
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Speaker 1: They do, They're a team on the rise, and that
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Speaker 1: still may be true. Uh, but we didn't see it yesterday.
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Speaker 1: So here's the question I got from a lot of
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Speaker 1: people walking out of the stadium. And I think, twelve
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Speaker 1: fourteen hours removed from the loss, it bears revisiting. Are
1:55
Speaker 1: these the same old Jaguars that looked yesterday like a
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Speaker 1: very similar team that we've seen the last couple of years.
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Speaker 1: But are they the same old Jaguars. Well, I think
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Speaker 1: there's a few ways to answer it. They are until
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Speaker 1: they're not, because perceptions reality in the sense that fans
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Speaker 1: are gonna feel how they feel. So I think from
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Speaker 1: the fans perspective, that is a storyline. Okay, well we
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Speaker 1: thought you were good, Now it's gonna take you. One
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Speaker 1: of the things I wrote last night was it's gonna
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Speaker 1: take some winning to get back to that good feeling
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Speaker 1: we all had in September because that was built on
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Speaker 1: two good wins that you felt good about, couldn't feel
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Speaker 1: good about that. Are are they in fact the same team? Um? No,
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Speaker 1: I don't think they are the same team in this sense.
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Speaker 1: Their losses this season? Uh, well, which old Jaguars are
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Speaker 1: we talking about? Well, you mean are we talking about
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Speaker 1: the del Rio Jaguars that lost heartbreakers? And I felt
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Speaker 1: like you should have been there that felt like this
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Speaker 1: a little bit. I wasn't here for at but where
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Speaker 1: you thought they were close than they thought they were
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Speaker 1: close than they weren't. So maybe that's what that felt
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Speaker 1: like two people. It didn't feel like the last couple
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Speaker 1: of years, because the last couple of years they're getting
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Speaker 1: rolled in a game like that by twenty points. But
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Speaker 1: it's not good enough to sit here and say, well,
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Speaker 1: they don't. They're not number thirty two anymore, so they're okay,
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Speaker 1: that's not the standard they're looking for. The coaches aren't
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Speaker 1: happy about that, so um, I don't think they are,
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Speaker 1: because it feels like they've let one play to play
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Speaker 1: games slide past them. So in that sense, I think
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Speaker 1: they can still make the argument were close. We're doing things. Okay,
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Speaker 1: they've got to get over the top. All right, let's
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Speaker 1: jump into big things and get it started here on
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Speaker 1: a Monday morning following the Jaguars seven laws, and we'll
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Speaker 1: start with statement game. Hey look, I was one of
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Speaker 1: the people that was promoting this. It was an opportunity
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Speaker 1: in the a f C South to go to and Oh,
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Speaker 1: which this franchise has never done in that division, and
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Speaker 1: to beat an opponent that they hadn't beaten five years
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Speaker 1: and they still haven't beating him. So they missed the
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Speaker 1: opportunity to make the statement. And the quarterback understood though
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Speaker 1: that there's still another statement that he felt compelled to
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Speaker 1: make in the locker room after the game. I've got
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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of room for improvement. Um,
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Speaker 1: like I said, we've we've played some really good football
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Speaker 1: this season, and we've we've played some bad football too.
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Speaker 1: So um, the only thing that says is we gotta
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Speaker 1: get better. And that's that's the message, whether we win
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Speaker 1: or lose, but especially when you lose a game like
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Speaker 1: this and you don't play well, especially offensively, So we
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Speaker 1: we gotta like I said, we gotta hold each other accountable,
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Speaker 1: hold ourselves accountable, and we gotta get better. And um,
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Speaker 1: we all just have to do our part. And like
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Speaker 1: I said, our team does a good job of staying together.
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Speaker 1: No one's gonna point fingers, but we do have to
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Speaker 1: step up and and make the plays that are there
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Speaker 1: and and really just be more consistent all the way around.
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Speaker 1: So that's the that's the message is just it's early.
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Speaker 1: We have we have plenty of time, but we gotta
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Speaker 1: make improvements. The big thing, too, is Trevor's trouble. Now
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Speaker 1: we have two weeks in a row where the quarterback
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Speaker 1: has turned the ball over, made iffy decisions, made one
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Speaker 1: flat outright bad decision yesterday to throw the ball into
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Speaker 1: the end zone. He's looked inconsistent despite the fact that
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Speaker 1: he had good protection and the running game was pretty
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Speaker 1: good yesterday they had coach though, for all of the
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Speaker 1: alarms that are sounded this morning, is not one of
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Speaker 1: those folks jumping on that bandwagon. You know. I think that, uh,
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Speaker 1: you know, we we've got the staff. We got to
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Speaker 1: figure out a way to kind of get him settled
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Speaker 1: into the game. Number One, Trevor has to you know, obviously,
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Speaker 1: you know, make sure that he's in a good spot.
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Speaker 1: And you know, he thinks he sees everything, you know,
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Speaker 1: he sees the field. Well, we just got to continue
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Speaker 1: to you know, we gotta continue to keep throwing, you know,
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Speaker 1: and keep putting them in situations like that, and he's
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Speaker 1: gonna get better. He will get better. That's I'm not
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Speaker 1: worried about that at all. We have a lot of
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Speaker 1: a lot of faith and trust in him and he can.
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Speaker 1: He can definitely, you know, do the job. We've seen it,
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Speaker 1: you know, this season. So we just, uh, we just
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Speaker 1: gotta keep working on and big thing three, What were
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Speaker 1: they thinking? You have the last two first overall picks
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Speaker 1: in the NFL draft on your squad, and Trevor's interception
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Speaker 1: and then Trayvon Walker's body slam a quarterback Davis Mills.
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Speaker 1: The kinds of plays that you can't have. And those
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Speaker 1: were the only two head scratching decisions during the game,
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Speaker 1: but those were two that stood out. Those are unacceptable. Um,
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Speaker 1: you know, players that come up and and I keep
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Speaker 1: telling the guys that you know, a game usually comes
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Speaker 1: down to three to five plays and and you just
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Speaker 1: never know which ones are going to be those plays.
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Speaker 1: And you know, Trevor's Trevor's interception, lay that penalty, you know,
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Speaker 1: late in a game like that, I mean, those are
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Speaker 1: those are those are hard to overcome, you know, and
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Speaker 1: and um, just again they're they're all valuable lessons for
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Speaker 1: us as a staff to to to you know, teach
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Speaker 1: and correct a lot like the week before Tyson, you know,
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Speaker 1: running into the kicker and Philly and just those are
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Speaker 1: all moments where you know, we can't we can't take things,
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Speaker 1: you know upon ourselves. We just you know, we just
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Speaker 1: got to do our job. And those are big things.
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Speaker 1: As the Jaguars licked their wounds today and start focusing
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Speaker 1: on another division game next Sunday in Indianapolis, and John,
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Speaker 1: it comes back to young players who you were counting
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Speaker 1: on doing young player things that you thought they were
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Speaker 1: beyond or I think it's accurate to say you hope
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Speaker 1: they were beyond Well, yeah, I mean, and we talked
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Speaker 1: about Trayvon and uh Trevor walking down from Doug's press
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Speaker 1: conference yesterday, Trevis press conference, and it's it's a tough
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Speaker 1: thing for people to hear, and it's it's it's a
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Speaker 1: tough thing for Doug Peterson to accept or anybody to accept,
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Speaker 1: and I would guess it's a tough thing for Trevor
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Speaker 1: and Treyvon to realize. Um, this team is so young.
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Speaker 1: We made the point that talking together Brian, they don't
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Speaker 1: really have their fifth and sixth and seventh year core
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Speaker 1: guys that veteran mature teams do. So you're depending on
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Speaker 1: your first and second you mean, not rookie and second
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Speaker 1: year core guys to be your guys, and they're paid
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Speaker 1: like it. It's irresponsibility. I don't know that those two
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Speaker 1: players make that awful mistake when they're mature players in
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Speaker 1: their fifth year. So I think some some of the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars woes are still caused by the fact that there
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Speaker 1: are huge holes in this roster where you don't have
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Speaker 1: fifth eight year core. You're young and so you see
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Speaker 1: things that you pull your hair out because you pull
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Speaker 1: your hair with young kids that said, um, you know
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Speaker 1: you don't want to analyze the game too easily and say, well,
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Speaker 1: these two things cost in the game, But yesterday those
8:45
Speaker 1: two things cost in the game. You can make the
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Speaker 1: case that if Trevor scores the touchdown there and Trayvon
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Speaker 1: doesn't throw them down, or you're thirteen to six with
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Speaker 1: the trade. I mean, with Trevor touchdown, and the game
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Speaker 1: tilts in your favor the rest of the way and
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Speaker 1: plays that's it. That's it, and then the trail. I
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Speaker 1: mean one thing, the defense played terrific yesterday, but my
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Speaker 1: my guesses, I haven't talked to my call. I haven't
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Speaker 1: talked to me on the defense about it. You've got
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Speaker 1: them on their own goal line. I think it was
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Speaker 1: third and five and and you let them run it out.
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Speaker 1: Foy I missed the that's I think that's what was
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Speaker 1: talking about in his post game. I'm sure, and he's right.
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Speaker 1: That's an opportunity. Now you get possession back and you
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Speaker 1: go get a touchdown, and all of a sudden, that
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Speaker 1: interception is a blip because you still had tilted field position.
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Speaker 1: That was the moment, even beyond the touchdown they gave
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Speaker 1: up because they're gas at that point. You're and I
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Speaker 1: didn't think they played poorly on the series of the touchdown.
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Speaker 1: They just gave him a first down. I mean, but
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Speaker 1: you gave away that opportunity. But the Trayvon play, I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's uh, it's one that I'm sure is eating his
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Speaker 1: gut out this morning because you just can't do it.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you can't do it high school. Well, when
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Speaker 1: he gets the fine envelope from the league in his
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Speaker 1: locker tomorrow, it will eat even a little more this
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Speaker 1: time into his pocketbook, so he'll learn that lesson. And
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Speaker 1: I asked you off the top, are these the same
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Speaker 1: old Jaguars? Well, the same old Jaguars. Don't hold their
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Speaker 1: opponent to thirteen points in two forty eight yards. They
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Speaker 1: didn't play well enough to win on that side of
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Speaker 1: the ball because they didn't make enough plays. They had
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Speaker 1: just that one sack. There were no takeaways. They missed
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Speaker 1: key tackles in key moments, but in no takeaways. Was
10:27
Speaker 1: it felt, looking back over the game this morning, by
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Speaker 1: design that the Texans were trying to shorten that game,
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Speaker 1: not make mistakes, So I think that played into the
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Speaker 1: no takeaways. They don't want to give them any opportunities
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Speaker 1: to be themselves. I mean, the Texans didn't want the
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Speaker 1: Jaguars to feel good defensively like that, so they take
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Speaker 1: no chances. And we have touch on Trevor here before
10:46
Speaker 1: we go to our first break, and hey, look, I
10:49
Speaker 1: mean I've never really expressed a lot of concern because
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Speaker 1: he's young, and because I still believe that this is
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Speaker 1: a guy who can be your franchise quarterback. But when
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Speaker 1: you see him throw that ball in the end zone,
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Speaker 1: I mean I was, I was up in the West
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Speaker 1: club and I screamed, run the ball right, which is
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Speaker 1: not what I normally do, but it was so clear
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Speaker 1: that that was the thing to do. You would expect
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Speaker 1: him to be able to do that. Yeah, it's It's
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Speaker 1: what we talked about with young players, and we talked
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Speaker 1: about offensive alignment all the time. They play okay, and
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Speaker 1: then there's the one play and they get and they
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Speaker 1: get killed for it. Well that's the NFL. So Trevor,
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Speaker 1: I watched the game this morning trying to figure out
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Speaker 1: what he missed. A few throws Statistically, I can see
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Speaker 1: why he said what he said after the game where
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Speaker 1: he zips some balls in there he had seven or
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Speaker 1: eight really good throws and where they're moving the ball
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Speaker 1: and you feel like, okay, here we go. Feet were
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Speaker 1: set um and even some of the ones that people
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Speaker 1: were saying he missed, receivers didn't really go make plays
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Speaker 1: for him either, So it wasn't all Trevor. But the
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Speaker 1: NFL is about plays and moments, and you can't make
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Speaker 1: that play at that moment. Say what do you want
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Speaker 1: about Davis Mills. He didn't make mistakes yesterday, and you
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Speaker 1: expect the quarterback taking number one overall to be the
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Speaker 1: guy who doesn't make the mistakes. But that's not the
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Speaker 1: way it's working right, Right, And even if you don't
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Speaker 1: get the pick there and you kick a field goal
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Speaker 1: nine six in a game like that, I talked about
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Speaker 1: tilted field position and momentum. What I mean by that
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Speaker 1: is you're calling plays different moving forward, and you're playing
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Speaker 1: the clock different moving forward. Uh, even if you're nine
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Speaker 1: six and don't have the Trayvon play, make an argument.
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Speaker 1: At the bare minimum, you're in a tie game. At
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Speaker 1: the end you down kick a field goal. So those
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Speaker 1: moments you have to you have to know how to
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Speaker 1: manage situations as a quarterback, and in that situation, Trevor
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Speaker 1: clearly didn't all right. Big things out of the way
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Speaker 1: along with John Osier, Ashland Sullivan out today. She'll be
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Speaker 1: back on Wednesday six. The outcome the Jaguars fall to
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Speaker 1: two and three. Let's give you some highlights. Game was
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Speaker 1: tied six six at the half. Jaguars come out on
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Speaker 1: fire and the quarterback, as we expected, would roll right
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Speaker 1: into it. Here's the first drive of the third quarter
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Speaker 1: at Trevor hits Evan Ingram Lawrence slinging it over the middle,
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Speaker 1: complete beautiful throw, second and eleven Lawrence Here he is
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Speaker 1: looking finding him again, Marvin Jones right, and then here's
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Speaker 1: some place where are just running and you're probably least
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Speaker 1: inside the sprist picked off by Stigley. So they start
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Speaker 1: off on fire with two beautiful throws and you're expecting
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Speaker 1: that here is where the switch is flipped. Yeah, and
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Speaker 1: he made reference to it. It it turned out once
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Speaker 1: the play began that it was not a great play
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Speaker 1: against that defense. And I don't I didn't get the
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Speaker 1: idea that he was criticizing the coaching on there. I
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Speaker 1: just got the idea that sometimes when you call a
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Speaker 1: play and it starts, it's against the defense that's ready
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Speaker 1: for it. So there's nothing there, and his responsibility at
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Speaker 1: that point is to make the right decision. This is
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Speaker 1: what he said, to move on to the next play,
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Speaker 1: and you had a chance to get a first down.
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Speaker 1: You had it was it was an easy decision. In retrospect,
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Speaker 1: he's not sitting there going, boy, I wonder what I
14:38
Speaker 1: should have done. I mean, it was just I think
14:41
Speaker 1: he thought at that moment he saw something, very quickly
14:44
Speaker 1: reacted to it, and you just got it. At some
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Speaker 1: point the percentages have to be playing in your mind
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Speaker 1: at that point and you know automatically not to make it.
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Speaker 1: There's no you can't make that. He talked to a
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Speaker 1: couple of other situations yesterday, and it's a post game
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Speaker 1: about forcing, trying to force things instead of take what
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Speaker 1: they offered to create other opportunities, and he did it
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Speaker 1: on on on the deep ball, I thought he did
15:05
Speaker 1: the same thing where I mean a tragedy, I throw
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Speaker 1: a deep ball thing complet you come back. But in
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Speaker 1: moments like that, in a game like that, uh, every
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Speaker 1: down counts and puts you in a second and ten,
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Speaker 1: which is trickier than a second and five. So that's
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Speaker 1: it felt to me like the Texans were counting on
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Speaker 1: the way they played defense. They were counting on the
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Speaker 1: jag Wars not being able to finish once they got
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Speaker 1: to the red zone, and they were counting on Trevor
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Speaker 1: not to be be able to make the twenty five
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Speaker 1: yard field, not to be consistent enough two. Uh, drive
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Speaker 1: the length of the field and take advantage of the
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Speaker 1: big plays that they got. And they were right yesterday.
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Speaker 1: They were right all right. So the game is still
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Speaker 1: six six and the Texans are near midfield, but they're
15:58
Speaker 1: facing third down and twenty. Here's another one of those
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Speaker 1: game changing plays. So maybe you just get into the
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Speaker 1: range of fair parents, he said a couple of from
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Speaker 1: fifty nowls as when whistle did and there's a late
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Speaker 1: flag by the followed through Trayvon Walker round maybe too
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Speaker 1: much at the end of that play. I didn't think
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Speaker 1: the flag was late at all. I think the flag
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Speaker 1: was right on time. How do you do this? I mean,
16:25
Speaker 1: he is a twenty one year old kid, so as
16:28
Speaker 1: long as he's been playing football, quarterbacks have been protected. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: The only thing you think is did he you know,
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Speaker 1: did he not realize for a moment he was off sides?
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Speaker 1: But even if he had been, even if the play
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Speaker 1: had been live, throwing the quarterback like that we saw
16:47
Speaker 1: with the Tampa game. You know, they're protecting quarterbacks so
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Speaker 1: much that I don't know that you can even live
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Speaker 1: sack a quarterback like that at this point. Uh. So
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Speaker 1: it was it was so had a character because that's
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Speaker 1: not really Trayvon is not really the in your face
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Speaker 1: making it yet. No, No, he's not at all. Maybe
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Speaker 1: that's not what that was. I don't want to put frustration. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and so it was just an incredibly bad timed, bad
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Speaker 1: play that they absolutely didn't need at that point. That
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Speaker 1: you know, in the NFL third and twenty, even dialing
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Speaker 1: back to third and fifteen, your percentage I've been off
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Speaker 1: the field, especially against Davis Mills and the Texans offense,
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Speaker 1: which is not a convert long yardage kind of offense.
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Speaker 1: They had been running in that situation. Keep your cool,
17:39
Speaker 1: they're punting and you're giving the ball back to your
17:41
Speaker 1: with what that's six minutes to go. So now you
17:44
Speaker 1: have a situation where you control it into your four
17:48
Speaker 1: minute offense and set up Riley Patterson for a game
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Speaker 1: winning even after that, Yeah, I got I got a
17:55
Speaker 1: question last night and they said one of the jack
17:57
Speaker 1: was gonna have a good defense. I was like, I
17:59
Speaker 1: don't have much better. Is supposed to play in the NFL.
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Speaker 1: You give up tune and fifty yards and one touchdown.
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Speaker 1: I don't care who you're playing. That's fine, you're supposed
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Speaker 1: to win, and especially seven minutes to go to get
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Speaker 1: a gut punch like that momentum switch, and to still
18:15
Speaker 1: make it difficult for Damian Pierce. I mean he he
18:19
Speaker 1: said to give credit where it's due. I didn't think
18:21
Speaker 1: the Jaguars defense played bad against Damian Pierce. He's a
18:24
Speaker 1: young guy right now at the peak of his running
18:27
Speaker 1: back abilities. He's hard to bring down. That's how he plays.
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Speaker 1: He was gonna win something. Uh. I didn't think they
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Speaker 1: played poorly on the final drive against he won that matchup.
18:37
Speaker 1: Occasionally that happens. If that had happened when it was
18:40
Speaker 1: twenty seven to six, nobody would have cared. But the
18:43
Speaker 1: one time it happened was when the game was on
18:44
Speaker 1: the line. But they didn't play poorly defensively. Well, here
18:47
Speaker 1: you go. Here's the Damian Pierce touchdown. The ball was
18:49
Speaker 1: put at the thirty eight yard line first and ten
18:52
Speaker 1: for the Texans after Trayvon Walker's errand to play, and
18:55
Speaker 1: it's set up this second Texas, I'd run it again.
18:59
Speaker 1: You got overload to the right, Pierce on the take
19:03
Speaker 1: and he bins it in and the Houston Texans re
19:08
Speaker 1: take the lead here in Jexanville. So now it's thirteen
19:12
Speaker 1: to six, John and the Jaguars are driving, and they
19:15
Speaker 1: get the ball to midfield and they put themselves in
19:18
Speaker 1: a position from midfield to be able to do something
19:22
Speaker 1: about it. Here's one more looking Pierce. You know what,
19:26
Speaker 1: let's let's let we don't even need to show the
19:28
Speaker 1: rest of it. So he scored. Yeah, but but let's
19:31
Speaker 1: let's just dump the rest of the highlights, because the
19:32
Speaker 1: point is the Jaguars had opportunities. Yeah, and uh, turns
19:38
Speaker 1: getting a lot of heat in the mail bag, and
19:40
Speaker 1: I'm sure everywhere else hasn't finished a drive late in
19:44
Speaker 1: the game, hadn't brought them back. Um. I want to
19:47
Speaker 1: point the breaks today on that a little bit. He hasn't.
19:50
Speaker 1: His situations so far this year have been down by touchdown.
19:56
Speaker 1: That's a lot trickier than bringing back from down by three.
20:00
Speaker 1: So uh the So I don't necessarily think it's a
20:05
Speaker 1: huge worry that it hasn't happened yet, because that's that's
20:09
Speaker 1: a tough hurdle to get past for the young guy.
20:12
Speaker 1: What's concerning to me and what you want to see
20:14
Speaker 1: is they haven't really gotten into range to make a
20:18
Speaker 1: play at the end. I would have rather seen a
20:20
Speaker 1: couple of times where their first in goal. I mean,
20:22
Speaker 1: you know, the first and half the fifteen, he's driven
20:24
Speaker 1: them down and then you take four shots. You're not
20:26
Speaker 1: getting there. He hasn't gotten them into situation yet. Um.
20:31
Speaker 1: That needs to happen, and I think that's another thing
20:33
Speaker 1: that we need to watch for in the coming weeks.
20:36
Speaker 1: It's it's it's a developmental thing. It's important to realize
20:40
Speaker 1: you're only five games into the Doug Peterson era. So
20:42
Speaker 1: there's still rookie element there. People don't want to hear that,
20:44
Speaker 1: but that's reality. But it's uh, I understand what we're
20:50
Speaker 1: seeing the last couple of weeks. This is the growing
20:54
Speaker 1: pain and you've got to grow through it. And I
20:57
Speaker 1: understand the concern. All right. Those are the highlights, whether
20:59
Speaker 1: you want them or not. And when we come back,
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21:29
Speaker 1: in and funch the ball in when we need to.
21:32
Speaker 1: We can't go down to the red zone, um, you know,
21:35
Speaker 1: and not take advantage of those opportunities. Um, especially when
21:38
Speaker 1: our defense and our he held the game up pretty
21:41
Speaker 1: good for us. It's Marvin Jones after the game, and
21:45
Speaker 1: there is a almost foreboding sense with this young team
21:50
Speaker 1: in the red zone. Like man, they cannot settle for
21:53
Speaker 1: a field goal here. They need a touchdown. But it
21:55
Speaker 1: seems like a high hurdle for them right now to
21:59
Speaker 1: find success in the zone. Yeah, and uh, they were
22:02
Speaker 1: two three there, but the two we're field goals. See
22:07
Speaker 1: at six points in three red zone trips. Uh again
22:12
Speaker 1: started doing the math in in a game like that
22:15
Speaker 1: where it's tight down there, you get two touchdowns. I
22:20
Speaker 1: was completely different games. I'm saying the obvious, but it's
22:24
Speaker 1: it's it's critical, and I do believe the Texans thought
22:27
Speaker 1: that was the way to play. Hey, they're gonna get
22:31
Speaker 1: some plays. We're gonna make sure they don't get huge plays.
22:34
Speaker 1: But if they get down inside the thirty, uh, we
22:38
Speaker 1: have a better chance than average of of them not scoring.
22:41
Speaker 1: We're in holding the field goals, maybe one touchdown. And
22:43
Speaker 1: then they really shortened the game. The Texans on the
22:47
Speaker 1: drive right after the interception, they only drove to midfield,
22:51
Speaker 1: but they took like eight minutes to do it, and
22:53
Speaker 1: that really, I thought, compressed it. And now, all of
22:56
Speaker 1: a sudden, you've got a young team playing at home
22:58
Speaker 1: knowing they're supposed to win in all of a sudden.
23:01
Speaker 1: The fourth quarter felt so much different because it was
23:03
Speaker 1: all of a sudden. Upon you you mean, that third
23:05
Speaker 1: quarter felt like it take it took two minutes, And
23:08
Speaker 1: I think that really played into that amic of the
23:10
Speaker 1: game of all of a sudden. I think it felt
23:13
Speaker 1: like the offense felt that a little bit of Okay,
23:15
Speaker 1: we gotta do something and maybe pressed a touch, you know.
23:19
Speaker 1: We we were anxious to see how they would respond
23:22
Speaker 1: and and from the Philly game, and now they've got
23:26
Speaker 1: the Colts in a really important game for them if
23:28
Speaker 1: they have any hope of contending in the division. I
23:31
Speaker 1: shouldn't say it that dramatically, but this is a really
23:34
Speaker 1: important game for them to be able to keep pace
23:37
Speaker 1: with the Titans, who have now won three in a row,
23:39
Speaker 1: and to keep the advantage over the Colts. So do
23:42
Speaker 1: you expect them to come back from this cup punch?
23:44
Speaker 1: And how do you answer that question based on what
23:46
Speaker 1: we saw yesterday. I don't know that I expect anything
23:51
Speaker 1: at this point. I'm not saying that I don't expect
23:54
Speaker 1: any other team. I don't really know how they'll respond. Uh.
23:58
Speaker 1: I think they're very capable of onning well. But it's
24:03
Speaker 1: tough because even they say, well, they beat four nothing
24:06
Speaker 1: two weeks ago or whenever it was four weeks ago,
24:09
Speaker 1: it's different on the road. It's different when yeah, the
24:13
Speaker 1: Coles beat the Chiefs at home two weeks ago. So
24:16
Speaker 1: that sort of math doesn't work. I think it's tough,
24:19
Speaker 1: and it's it's uh, you know, we say it every week.
24:22
Speaker 1: The next thing is the most important. All of a sudden,
24:24
Speaker 1: this is a whole lot of trick or anything they face.
24:26
Speaker 1: So here's my hot take and I wrote it last
24:28
Speaker 1: week and final analysis for you, John, and that is
24:30
Speaker 1: I will not use the word playoffs in this team again. Um.
24:33
Speaker 1: I thought that this was the tea Yeah, this is
24:36
Speaker 1: the last time. Uh, this this one really I talking
24:40
Speaker 1: to coaches and players last week, I thought this was
24:42
Speaker 1: a team on the rise, that they knew it, that
24:44
Speaker 1: they were ready to go and beat a team that
24:46
Speaker 1: they should beat. Well, they're not there yet. They're clearly
24:51
Speaker 1: they're not ready for that yet and they will be
24:53
Speaker 1: as soon as the quarterback and not that it's all
24:56
Speaker 1: on him, but the quarterback is ready to play at
24:59
Speaker 1: that next level where you make those plays. Um, and
25:04
Speaker 1: they're still growth and time in it. So maybe got
25:07
Speaker 1: ahead of myself, you know. I look at the division.
25:09
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a really good division. I think
25:11
Speaker 1: the Jaguars have a very talented young roster, but that
25:14
Speaker 1: doesn't mean they're ready for it yet. So there won't
25:15
Speaker 1: be any talk of division title or any of that stuff,
25:18
Speaker 1: at least not for me. Uh, it's an important game
25:21
Speaker 1: for a young team to get over this game in Indie.
25:24
Speaker 1: And that's as far as I'll go. Yeah, mine is
25:26
Speaker 1: probably more of a of a tepid take been hot
25:30
Speaker 1: because we talked about it already. It's uh, this is
25:34
Speaker 1: a gut punch and really hurts. It's kind of honestly,
25:36
Speaker 1: we talked about the whole show now, but boy it hurt.
25:40
Speaker 1: Um because I think fans really thought after the Colts
25:45
Speaker 1: and Chargers that that they were ready for more and
25:50
Speaker 1: and that they would take care of business. And I
25:55
Speaker 1: thought the game would be close. I thought the game
25:56
Speaker 1: would be thirteen where it was seventeen route in the
26:00
Speaker 1: fourth quarter and they would have a drive where he said, Okay,
26:03
Speaker 1: that's now we feel like we're going some arage. Uh
26:07
Speaker 1: now we're ready. Um. And I do think this game
26:12
Speaker 1: dictates how you felt about the last three. Had they one,
26:16
Speaker 1: you would have felt like, hey, they're the Colts and
26:19
Speaker 1: Chargers and they are almost better than the Eagles. Now
26:22
Speaker 1: you feel like Frankly, I think a lot of fans
26:25
Speaker 1: feel like same old Jaguars. I got a lot of
26:28
Speaker 1: emails say at the bottom five in the league. Again,
26:30
Speaker 1: I don't think that's what this is. I think this
26:34
Speaker 1: was more a case of a desperate team in the
26:36
Speaker 1: Texans that was better than people thought. Jaguars played poorly
26:39
Speaker 1: in the Texans, barely got them. It would make you
26:42
Speaker 1: feel any better, But I think that's what you're looking at.
26:45
Speaker 1: But now again they have to go prove that they
26:46
Speaker 1: you know, uh, this morning, that gut punch really hurt.
26:52
Speaker 1: You know, if they had one yesterday, we would be
26:54
Speaker 1: talking about a show that. Yeah, but we've been talking
26:57
Speaker 1: about showdown in Indianapolis this week, right, uh it. So
27:00
Speaker 1: you know there's an old saying that water finds its
27:01
Speaker 1: own level. Well, this team is not ready for that
27:03
Speaker 1: kind of a game yet. They're not ready to be
27:05
Speaker 1: talking about division titles. They still got to figure out
27:08
Speaker 1: how to play consistently. And Doug Peterson and Trevor Lawrence
27:10
Speaker 1: both said it yesterday in their post game locker room,
27:13
Speaker 1: and that's going to be the message is find a
27:15
Speaker 1: way to get back to playing consistent football. Now, it's
27:18
Speaker 1: not out of the question that this team is. I
27:23
Speaker 1: don't want to say it's gonna be two thousand and seventeen,
27:25
Speaker 1: because what happened at the end of that year was
27:29
Speaker 1: you know, all of a sudden it just took off.
27:31
Speaker 1: Remember that two thousand seventeen team had six losses. Where
27:34
Speaker 1: we're sitting here on Monday, going, okay, same, well, you
27:37
Speaker 1: know what, I got rolled by the Titans, lost to
27:39
Speaker 1: the Jets, the lost to the Rams out here when
27:42
Speaker 1: every time, every time that team had momentum early, all
27:45
Speaker 1: of a sudden they would come out and you know,
27:48
Speaker 1: Maron's talking about like one day to you know. So
27:51
Speaker 1: I don't know that this kind of game means it's
27:54
Speaker 1: it's lost. Maybe they're just trying to find themselves and
27:57
Speaker 1: maybe they're an up and down team. That's still very
28:00
Speaker 1: possible for this DA. All right, one more segment when
28:03
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28:38
Speaker 1: got coming this week? What's those own podcast? I believe
28:41
Speaker 1: we are trying to effort. That's a that's a radio
28:44
Speaker 1: attorney like people. Um A yeah, I like for a Lukon.
28:51
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that because he's always very insightful.
28:54
Speaker 1: And uh, I always like to pitch the Huddle Up
28:56
Speaker 1: podcast with Bucky Brooks because his name's on it. Do
28:59
Speaker 1: you spend time with him when he comes into town?
29:01
Speaker 1: Not if I don't have to? No, I did. Great.
29:04
Speaker 1: Your honesty is refreshing. Thanks for carrying the show this morning. Well,
29:08
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29:10
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