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Wulf From Atlanta's Metal Rocker Anger Within Breaking Down Through The Eyes Of Bedouin · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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Speaker 2: How's it going, Arrow?
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Speaker 1: Man, I'm fired up, ready to talk with you again, guy,
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Speaker 1: because you love to share those stories, man.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, just a little bit.
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Speaker 1: Well, not only that, but you inspire me with the
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Speaker 1: way that you explore music, too, because, I mean, it
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Speaker 1: just seems like that you're taking your listener for a
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Speaker 1: ride and taking us to a place where we may
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Speaker 1: not know. But when you listen to the lyrics, I
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Speaker 1: feel like that you're taking us somewhere. And that is
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Speaker 1: so important to me as a listener and as a
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Speaker 1: jock on the radio.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: You know, I mean, it's, it's gotta be the whole package,
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Speaker 3: you know, it's gotta, gotta be like, music's gotta be
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Speaker 3: interesting and as well as the lyrics. And so I
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Speaker 3: tried to, uh, you know, I tried to put emphasis on, uh,
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Speaker 3: all that.
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Speaker 1: Now, what is that like for you? Do you drop the, the, the,
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Speaker 1: the guitar riff down first or does a lyric come
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Speaker 1: to you and then you've got to build it from there?
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Speaker 3: Uh, usually it's guitar, guitar first, and then we'll, we'll
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Speaker 3: demo the songs, uh, build uh like uh drums like
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Speaker 3: uh through a program or something like that and then
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Speaker 3: we'll send it out to everybody in the band uh
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Speaker 3: just to have something to work on and then you
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Speaker 3: know i'll come in and and add lyrics uh but
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Speaker 3: you know like the title track of uh our ep
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Speaker 3: through the eyes of the bedouin um You know, I
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Speaker 3: had the ideal for that like forever, you know, since
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Speaker 3: I was like since I was a little kid. So,
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Speaker 3: you know, it was it was great to finally get
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Speaker 3: that out and add that to a piece of music.
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Speaker 1: See, I love that because, you know, there are so
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Speaker 1: many people that are trying to reinvent music in the
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Speaker 1: way of going to A.I. And I love the fact
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Speaker 1: that you went into your own history and brought this out.
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Speaker 1: It's still you being you in this moment of now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. You know, and, you know, telling the story, you know,
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Speaker 3: that was another thing that was a little bit different because,
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Speaker 3: you know, we have the political and social commentary in
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Speaker 3: our music and even personal lyrics and stuff. But this
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Speaker 3: gave me the opportunity to kind of write a fictional
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Speaker 3: song about the Middle East, you know, and from when
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Speaker 3: I lived there, which was like, I think, 79 and
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Speaker 3: and 83.
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Speaker 2: Wow.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'll tell you what I got in watching
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Speaker 1: the video. I was actually hoping for a series. I
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Speaker 1: was hoping that somebody in Hollywood was watching this and going,
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Speaker 1: I want to do a nine-part binge watch on this
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Speaker 1: because it's got that. It's got that storyline about it
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Speaker 1: where I just want more.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was kind of the goal. We want to
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Speaker 3: leave the viewer or the listener completely interested in uh,
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Speaker 3: in the band, you know, draw them in.
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Speaker 2: And that way, you know, we didn't, you know, we
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Speaker 2: didn't have.
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Speaker 3: Like a, a, a series of videos or anything other
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Speaker 3: than the, uh, we had a lyric video as well. Um,
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Speaker 3: But hopefully it draws the listener in and they'll actually
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Speaker 3: give the music a chance and read the lyrics and everything.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's the one thing that I'm learning more and
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Speaker 1: more about about listeners is that they're back to a
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Speaker 1: visual audience again. In other words, they are true. They
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Speaker 1: want to see things. They want to be included into everything.
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Speaker 1: And when you start doing things like this, all of
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Speaker 1: a sudden, they become your followers. And it's like, oh,
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Speaker 1: we've tapped into the imagination again. Whereas in the past,
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Speaker 1: it was like, just set it aside. I'll listen to
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Speaker 1: it with my earbuds in. We're back to visuals again.
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Speaker 1: I love that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. I mean, I, you know, I.
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Speaker 3: not to sound old or anything, but I grew up
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Speaker 3: with MTV and I grew up with, uh, the headbangers ball,
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Speaker 3: you know? And like, uh, when I was a teenager, uh,
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Speaker 3: you know, like every Saturday night from like midnight till 3.00 AM,
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Speaker 3: you know, it was like three hours.
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Speaker 2: Of, uh, metal videos, you know?
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Speaker 3: And, you know, I, I made, you know, I went
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Speaker 3: out my way to, to to watch that you know
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Speaker 3: and yeah i agree with you that it that's that
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Speaker 3: kind of got lost i think with uh digital music
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Speaker 3: and everything and now it's uh with uh with all
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Speaker 3: these platforms you know to like present your music i
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Speaker 3: think uh i think kids now are starting to get
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Speaker 3: into why watching the visual and the videos and everything.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely. Because don't you think though, the video to eyes
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Speaker 1: is the, it's still a good guy, bad guy kind of,
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Speaker 1: it reminds me of a Western that's set in the
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Speaker 1: middle East and it's like, yeah, go get a man,
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Speaker 1: go get them.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: You know, we wanted to have a, uh, you know,
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Speaker 3: we definitely wanted to have a darker kind of like
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Speaker 3: look and feel to it. Uh, because our, our very
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Speaker 3: first music video, um, um, It was called More of
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Speaker 3: the Feast and it was done on a soundstage and
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Speaker 3: it was like just basically white background and everything. And
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Speaker 3: we were wearing all black. You know, it was kind
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Speaker 3: of like an introduction to it was an introduction to
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Speaker 3: the band. you know, like, uh, here's the band and, and,
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Speaker 3: and whatnot. But this one, you know, with the video,
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Speaker 3: we want to have a darker look to it, uh,
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Speaker 3: kind of the match, kind of like the cover with
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Speaker 3: the Bedouin on the horseback and everything, uh, because that's,
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Speaker 3: that's on the desert plains and, and, and it had a, uh,
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Speaker 3: kind of a night, nighttime feel to it. So we
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Speaker 3: try to kind of like, uh, match that a little
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Speaker 3: bit with the video, the look.
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Speaker 2: Of the video.
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Speaker 1: Did you go over there to do the video or
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Speaker 1: did you do that in California?
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Speaker 2: No. Uh, well we're, we're from Atlanta. So, uh, we,
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Speaker 2: we did. Yeah. Yeah. We did it here in Atlanta.
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Speaker 1: Um, Wow. Technology. Technology.
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Speaker 3: Virtual Adrenaline Productions and Ronnie Winstead, those guys are the,
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Speaker 3: you know, and his team were the ones who did
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Speaker 3: the video for us.
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Speaker 1: Wow. Are you guys pushing for a new rock sound
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Speaker 1: when it comes to Nothing's Ever Done? Because I could
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Speaker 1: totally hear this on 106.5 here in Charlotte. It's got
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Speaker 1: that Metallica meets Gore kind of feeling to it.
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Speaker 3: Well, it was, uh, it was definitely a different, um,
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Speaker 3: it was a different type of song for us because,
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Speaker 3: you know, our, our, our, um, early efforts definitely had
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Speaker 3: more of a thrash kind of death metal kind of
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Speaker 3: sound to it, you know, cookie monster vocals and whatnot,
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Speaker 3: you know, but, uh, you know, I, I, I have
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Speaker 3: an eclectic taste in music. I like everything from like
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Speaker 3: Mozart to Cannibal Corpse and everything in between, you know, and, uh,
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Speaker 3: That song is a bit of a rock song for us,
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Speaker 3: you know, compared to what we normally do.
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Speaker 2: And the whole thing with.
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Speaker 3: That came about was that I only had like two
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Speaker 3: or three songs written for the new EP. And we
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Speaker 3: we got done with those songs at practice one day.
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Speaker 3: And my drummer, Chris, was like, hey, do you have
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Speaker 3: anything else? I had a song that I kind of
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Speaker 3: had on the shelf for like I was saving up
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Speaker 3: for like a side project. uh that was different than
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Speaker 3: anger within and you know i i i love like
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Speaker 3: um bands like from the early 80s like uh hardcore
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Speaker 3: scenes and stuff like uh from washington dc like minor
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Speaker 3: threat and dag nasty and government issue and i i
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Speaker 3: really like dag nasty you know that and Then I
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Speaker 3: also like bands like Jane's Addiction, you know, and like
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Speaker 3: early Jane's Addiction. So when I wrote that song, I
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Speaker 3: was like, yeah, you know, the guys will never like
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Speaker 3: that or whatnot, you know, but I brought it to them.
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Speaker 3: And next thing you know, we're jamming on it. And
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Speaker 3: the middle section, you know, like the original middle section
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Speaker 3: was really short. And I thought, well, this song deserves
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Speaker 3: something better. And I had that that acoustic part. part
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Speaker 3: in the middle and that I feel kind of has
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Speaker 3: that kind of Jane's Addiction kind of Jane Says kind
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Speaker 3: of feel to it and I was like you know
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Speaker 3: I think I think that uh brings that song out
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Speaker 3: quite a bit you know and and it definitely for
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Speaker 3: the listener you know kind of raises an eyebrow i
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Speaker 3: think you know and that's that's always been the goal
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Speaker 3: that's always been the uh intention.
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Speaker 1: And then that might be the very reason why i
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Speaker 1: brought up the new rock radio and is is because
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Speaker 1: it does have that jane's addiction kind of a vibe
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Speaker 1: and i always feel like that that genre of music
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Speaker 1: did not get finished there was something that interrupted it
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Speaker 1: And all of a sudden we were going in a
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Speaker 1: brand new direction. And now that you've got this, it's like, okay,
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Speaker 1: it's got to get back on there because when I'm
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Speaker 1: jamming to a terrestrial radio station, I want to be
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Speaker 1: able to have that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. You know, and.
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Speaker 3: I personally don't like to have boundaries when it comes
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Speaker 3: to writing stuff, especially musically. I don't want to sound
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Speaker 3: just like everybody else. I want to have something that
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Speaker 3: like sticks out and, and keeps the, uh, the listener intrigued. So, um,
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Speaker 3: you know, with that song, you know, it, I was
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Speaker 3: a little bit worried that, you know, like nobody would,
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Speaker 3: you know, dig it or whatnot, but I can't worry
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Speaker 3: about that. You know, it's like, I got to worry
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Speaker 3: about what sounds right to us. And, and it turns out, uh,
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Speaker 3: you know, it's, uh out of all the songs that's
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Speaker 3: streaming i think that's the most popular right now you
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Speaker 3: know even though the title track is the is the
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Speaker 3: radio song.
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Speaker 1: Yeah well look at what you're doing with mass incineration
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Speaker 1: oh my god you played with this song and i
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Speaker 1: would i wish i could have been in the studio
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Speaker 1: to watch you build it because i mean there was
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Speaker 1: some thought that went into the levels of this.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's definitely like a throwback to our kind of
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Speaker 3: like our old school roots. You know, I grew up
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Speaker 3: definitely with, you know, like early Napalm Death and Grindcore
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Speaker 3: and like really crazy, you know, that they had the
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Speaker 3: 60 minute, you know, 30 seconds, 60 minute long songs
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Speaker 3: and whatnot. And I didn't want people to kind of
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Speaker 3: think that, Hey, we, we forgot our roots, you know?
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Speaker 3: And it's like, so I decided, Hey, I'm going to
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Speaker 3: write like a 56 second long song and, you know,
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Speaker 3: and just blast it out, you know? And, uh, If
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Speaker 3: you're a drummer, you know that a lot of that
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Speaker 3: stuff has what's called blast beats. Chris is more of
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Speaker 3: a thrash drummer, so he decided to come up with
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Speaker 3: something different for that song. It made the song itself
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Speaker 3: different than if we had just gone the blast beat route.
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Speaker 3: That grabs people's attention as well.
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Speaker 1: Please don't move. There's more with Wolf from Anger Within
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Speaker 1: coming up next. Hey, thanks for coming back to the conversation.
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Speaker 1: Let's get back into it with Wolf from Anger Within.
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Speaker 1: One of the things that a part of the process
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Speaker 1: that the listeners never get to see is when you're
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Speaker 1: dropping the drum tracks and being in the studio and
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Speaker 1: that drummer is doing that. I wish more listeners could
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Speaker 1: go in there because I swear to God that sets
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Speaker 1: the tone when you can see where the drummer goes.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, they're mentally they're just going somewhere.
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Speaker 1: But to fall witness to it, to me, that's what
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Speaker 1: sets up the tone of everything from there forward.
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, you know, it's like, you know, when we're
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Speaker 3: in the studio, we it's like building a house. You know,
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Speaker 3: you got to have the sound. You got to have
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Speaker 3: the foundation. And that starts with the drums. And Chris,
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Speaker 3: you know, went to the Atlanta Music Institute of Music.
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Speaker 3: And he's a he's a, you know, a fantastic drummer.
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Speaker 3: and uh you know a schooled drummer you know and
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Speaker 3: when he he went in there man he knocked uh
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Speaker 3: those drum tracks like out of the park he was
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Speaker 3: just on and i and we if you go to
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Speaker 3: our facebook page uh there's a a couple around that
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Speaker 3: time you know there's a couple videos i posted from
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Speaker 3: uh us being in the studio.
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Speaker 2: And you just see him just going you know he's
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Speaker 2: like a machine i'm telling you He was going off.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. I mean, and to me, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's like, you know, people always go, man, did you
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Speaker 1: go to the concert last night and check out the song?
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Speaker 1: I just watched the musicians. What do you mean? You
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Speaker 1: have no idea what I mean. You just go there
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Speaker 1: just to stare at the musicians and watch you guys
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Speaker 1: disappear on stage. And, I mean, how can you explain
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Speaker 1: where you guys go?
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Speaker 3: You know, I mean, it's being focused and, you know, like...
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Speaker 3: having the vision of, of the, uh, songs that's, that's the, uh,
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Speaker 3: You know, that's the main objective, really, you know, for,
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Speaker 3: you know, what we put into the songs and how
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Speaker 3: we execute them.
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Speaker 2: You know, I just I just came back from Charlotte.
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Speaker 1: You did.
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Speaker 2: I went to the the Iron Maiden Megadeth.
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Speaker 1: Yes, you did. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Concert there at the amphitheater, man. And people were asking me,
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Speaker 3: how was that concert? And I said, well, you know,
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Speaker 3: like they were both great. And I said that, you know, Megadeth,
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Speaker 3: you know, have always been a guitar driven band, even
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Speaker 3: though everybody in that band's great. But if you're like
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Speaker 3: a guitar like fanatic like I am, you know, you're
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Speaker 3: you're watching what Dave Mustaine and his lead guitar players
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Speaker 3: are doing, you know.
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Speaker 2: And then same with Maiden.
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Speaker 3: They're like a six piece now with like three guitars.
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Speaker 3: And that really opens up the possibilities kind of like
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Speaker 3: for them musically and be able to do all those,
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Speaker 3: you know, double and triple guitar harmonies and everything. So,
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Speaker 3: you know, you get sucked into that, you know, into
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Speaker 3: the experience, I think.
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Speaker 1: Well, and you have that experience in Planet Retrograding. Because,
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Speaker 1: I mean, when you're talking about what you just did,
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden that song comes to mind. Because
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Speaker 1: I'm going, oh, no, no, no, no. You guys do
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Speaker 1: it too. I hear it in this song because of
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Speaker 1: all the different layers.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, that, you know, that's a, you know,
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Speaker 2: another heavy hitter.
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Speaker 3: And I think one of the reviews for the EP,
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Speaker 3: somebody said that was like a instant mosh.
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Speaker 2: Pit, like, you know, like.
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Speaker 3: Instant mosh pit song, you know, and it's like, yeah,
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Speaker 3: you know, we want, you know, you can do all
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Speaker 3: the fast stuff, you know, and that that's fine. But,
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Speaker 3: you know, sometimes you gotta like put some groove into
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Speaker 3: it and something that like people can kind of go
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Speaker 3: off and dance to and whatnot, you know, and it
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Speaker 3: has that little, little breakdown section in the middle, you know, and,
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Speaker 3: and most of the time when we played that, you know,
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Speaker 3: play that like locally, you know, people have definitely gone
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Speaker 3: off to it.
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Speaker 1: Okay, now when you break it down like that, because
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Speaker 1: I have in my notes here that I went with
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Speaker 1: the breakdown going, they didn't start this song with the drums.
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Speaker 1: And what I mean by that, and what I meant
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Speaker 1: by that was, it was that you didn't start in
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Speaker 1: the studio with the drums on this one, because there's
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Speaker 1: something about when you guys break it down that makes
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Speaker 1: it so raw and so like right now that I'm
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Speaker 1: right there with you. And I'm going, no, no, no, no, no.
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Speaker 1: They did the music first, then the drums. And I
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Speaker 1: know I'm completely wrong, but that's what I felt when
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Speaker 1: I heard you break it down.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that, you know, the guitar you want
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Speaker 3: to establish when you're writing songs, I think you definitely
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Speaker 3: want to establish, you know, like the main riff. I'm
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Speaker 3: a riff guy, you know, like I grew up. You know,
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Speaker 3: with old school Metallica, old school Iron Maiden. Yes. You know,
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Speaker 3: you listen to the beginning of, you know, like Two
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Speaker 3: Minutes to Midnight or you listen to the beginning, you know,
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Speaker 3: like of Master of Puppets. It's like that riff is
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Speaker 3: like solidified. And, you know, we tried to do the
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Speaker 3: same with our music, I think, you know. definitely and
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Speaker 3: then you know it's but the thing is the process
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Speaker 3: you know we definitely use uh we definitely use click
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Speaker 3: tracks in the studio uh gotta have it like You know,
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Speaker 3: professional and everything like that. And on time, you know, and,
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Speaker 3: you know, we lay we lay down the drums first.
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Speaker 3: You know, it doesn't sound like it, but the drums
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Speaker 3: are definitely first.
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Speaker 1: Dude, I don't know how you can get along with
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Speaker 1: those click tracks because maybe it's because I'm studying every
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Speaker 1: single frickin instrument by the time I get in there
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Speaker 1: to drop my vocals. My wife had to come in
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Speaker 1: and tap me on the back for the click track
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Speaker 1: because I was just so tuning it out. And she's going,
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Speaker 1: she goes, you've got to listen to the click track, dude.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you're really messing up. I'm going, but I'm
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Speaker 1: getting into the instrumentation. I want to get into what
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Speaker 1: they're doing. And he goes, no, follow the rules, man.
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Speaker 1: Follow the rules.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, both Brian and Chris are schooled.
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Speaker 2: They went both went to AIM.
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Speaker 3: So they're definitely, you know, that's that's kind of how
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Speaker 3: they're used to demoing and recording songs. I was old school.
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Speaker 3: I've done everything by ear. You know, I'm not I'm
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Speaker 3: not schooled by at all. You know, I was like
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Speaker 3: the old school guy that I learned how to play
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Speaker 3: guitar by like moving the needle back and playing it again.
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Speaker 3: you know, this is way before, you know, like YouTube.
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Speaker 3: Now you can like watch YouTube and learn anything, you know, whatnot. But,
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Speaker 3: but back in the day, you know, you, you'd luck
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Speaker 3: out if you had like a, a tablature in a
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Speaker 3: guitar magazine or something like that from your favorite band,
18:24
Speaker 3: you know, you just had to, you know, I, I
18:28
Speaker 3: had to completely learn by ear and whatnot. And the
18:31
Speaker 3: whole thing with the click tracks, you know, it's just, uh, it, it's, uh,
18:36
Speaker 3: I'm not used to that, but to make it sound good,
18:39
Speaker 3: I've had to learn how to.
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Speaker 2: Use the click tracks.
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Speaker 1: Wow. So when you guys were putting together Overcome, come on,
18:47
Speaker 1: tell me you didn't smell that sweat bath that was
18:49
Speaker 1: going to happen at every one of your live shows
18:51
Speaker 1: because that song looks like one that's going to ignite
18:54
Speaker 1: that live crowd. And I mean, this very second it
18:57
Speaker 1: kicks in, I went, holy crap, this is going to
18:59
Speaker 1: be either the wrap-up song of the night or you're
19:02
Speaker 1: going to do it in the middle to pick it up.
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Speaker 1: You're going to use it as a bridge tune.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Oh, you know, um, that song, uh, I had that
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Speaker 3: song for like a while, you know, like kind of
19:13
Speaker 3: like on the back burner or whatnot, you know, started
19:16
Speaker 3: piecing together everything, you know, that has a lot of
19:19
Speaker 3: different moods, different changes and whatnot. And all, you know, really,
19:24
Speaker 3: you know, if I had to compare it to somebody,
19:27
Speaker 3: it would definitely be kind of like a fear factory
19:29
Speaker 3: kind of machine head type vibe, little supple tour in there.
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Speaker 2: And then, you know, we come out.
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Speaker 3: Left field completely at the very end of it and
19:38
Speaker 3: have a kind of a galloping part, very, very reminiscent
19:41
Speaker 3: of like iron maiden, you know? And then I would
19:45
Speaker 3: say that Brian definitely gets his inner, uh, Dave Murray on,
19:49
Speaker 3: you know, he lays down, solo it's very reminiscent of
19:51
Speaker 3: dave murray from iron maiden for sure see.
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Speaker 1: What i what i love about your band is you're
19:56
Speaker 1: not afraid of rock and roll's family tree in other
19:58
Speaker 1: words that that everybody is connected through inspiration and or
20:02
Speaker 1: you know them and i love the fact that you're
20:04
Speaker 1: able to take those inspirations and put them inside this ep.
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Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely. I mean, it's.
20:13
Speaker 3: Almost kind of like, uh, you know, the, as far
20:15
Speaker 3: as the inspirations and the influences, it's like almost too
20:19
Speaker 3: many to name really.
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Speaker 2: I've been listening to music, you know, started off with
20:25
Speaker 2: like the.
20:26
Speaker 3: Beatles, you know, and kiss, you know, uh, in the seventies,
20:31
Speaker 3: you know, and then the eighties came around and I, I,
20:35
Speaker 3: I started getting into like black Sabbath and, and, uh,
20:38
Speaker 3: you know, like Def Leppard, Motley Crue, all that stuff,
20:42
Speaker 3: you know, and then I discovered Iron Maiden and I
20:44
Speaker 3: always tell people that, you know, it's like Iron Maiden
20:48
Speaker 3: made me want to like pick up a guitar and,
20:51
Speaker 3: And then, you know, Master of Puppets made me, you know,
20:54
Speaker 3: like Metallica, Master of Puppets, made me want to be
20:58
Speaker 3: in a band, you know. And then as we progressed
21:02
Speaker 3: further down the line, you know, Sepultura and Napalm Death
21:05
Speaker 3: helped me find my sound and my voice.
21:09
Speaker 1: Do you see the AI digital platforms such as, I'm
21:12
Speaker 1: a big Alexa fan as well as I'm a big
21:14
Speaker 1: fan of iHeart. Do you see those as being the
21:17
Speaker 1: new age tower records or music land? Because I'm here
21:20
Speaker 1: in Charlotte, so therefore you're being down there in Atlanta.
21:23
Speaker 1: I mean, we had music land and we had the
21:24
Speaker 1: mall store, but we didn't have a tower records in
21:26
Speaker 1: this side of the world. But don't you see though
21:29
Speaker 1: that today's music formats are really the brand new record store? Yeah.
21:35
Speaker 3: You know, I mean, that's that's why our EP is
21:40
Speaker 3: was digitally released through Pavement Entertainment.
21:43
Speaker 1: Nice.
21:44
Speaker 3: You know, because you have to you have to, you know,
21:47
Speaker 3: like you have to be with the times as far
21:50
Speaker 3: as like, you know, releases go. You know, like we
21:55
Speaker 3: face the facts. You know, a lot of people listen online.
21:59
Speaker 3: you know, to music through their, their platform or whatever
22:02
Speaker 3: they have or their phone or whatnot, you know, and you,
22:05
Speaker 3: you have to cater to that. You know, I'm an
22:08
Speaker 3: old school guy. I still, I still like collecting cassette
22:12
Speaker 3: tapes and vinyl and CDs. And I like opening, you know,
22:16
Speaker 3: the CD and reading the booklet and like pulling out
22:20
Speaker 3: the sheet for the vinyl and, and, and reading the
22:23
Speaker 3: thank you notes and, and the lyrics and everything, you know,
22:27
Speaker 3: and I'll always be like that. But, you know, I
22:29
Speaker 3: do have a lot of those albums, uh, uh, in
22:33
Speaker 3: digital folders on my computer as well. So, you know,
22:36
Speaker 3: you just got, you just got to like roll with
22:38
Speaker 3: the times, you know, cause that's the way it is
22:40
Speaker 3: right now.
22:40
Speaker 1: I've got a Morant sitting right here in front of
22:42
Speaker 1: me at cassette. So when you say cassette, I'm going,
22:45
Speaker 1: we are so on the same page, dude.
22:47
Speaker 2: Yeah.
22:50
Speaker 3: You know, I mean, I remember, you know, like being
22:54
Speaker 3: like 15 years old and always having like my Walkman,
22:57
Speaker 3: you know, and I'd have a pocket full of cassettes,
23:01
Speaker 3: you know, and throw one in, you know, and just
23:03
Speaker 3: jam out to it, you know.
23:06
Speaker 1: See, that's what riding the school bus was all about, man.
23:08
Speaker 1: I mean, you went to the back of the bus,
23:09
Speaker 1: you know, not to talk to the girls. It was
23:11
Speaker 1: how much can I turn up this music without pissing
23:13
Speaker 1: off the bus driver?
23:15
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely.
23:17
Speaker 3: You know, I mean, I have like a I'm a
23:22
Speaker 3: pretty avid collector and music collector. So I have like
23:25
Speaker 3: this pretty, pretty decent sized music collection. You know, everything,
23:31
Speaker 3: you know, like I said, from cassettes to CDs and
23:34
Speaker 3: vinyl and whatnot, you know, even quite a bit of
23:36
Speaker 3: autograph stuff, too, you know.
23:40
Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about this
23:42
Speaker 1: EP and merchandise? Because, you know, you being down there
23:45
Speaker 1: in Atlanta, so you know what's going on right now.
23:47
Speaker 1: There are a lot of people that are wearing merch
23:50
Speaker 1: right now, and I'll ask them about the band, and
23:51
Speaker 1: they go, well, I got it online. Well, tell me
23:53
Speaker 1: about the band. Don't just tell me that you got
23:55
Speaker 1: it online. I want more people. Buy the stuff, but
23:58
Speaker 1: know the band.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're on all the, pretty much all the streaming,
24:05
Speaker 3: the main streaming platforms. I know this is, like, on
24:10
Speaker 3: Apple Music, Spotify, Google Music. If you look us up
24:16
Speaker 3: on Facebook, you know, do a search for Anger Within
24:19
Speaker 3: or look us up on Instagram, you know, you'll find
24:22
Speaker 3: our page.
24:23
Speaker 2: And there should be a link on there that will.
24:27
Speaker 3: Like, send you to where you can, like, pick up
24:31
Speaker 3: a digital copy of the EP. Now, if you come
24:34
Speaker 3: out to one of our shows, which we're getting ready
24:36
Speaker 3: to do a mini tour here starting Friday, we're hitting Bristol, Tennessee.
24:43
Speaker 2: Wow. Alabama, we're playing in Memphis.
24:48
Speaker 3: We will have physical copies of our EP, like on cassette,
24:55
Speaker 3: on CD, and I think I have a few vinyl
24:58
Speaker 3: left over as well.
24:59
Speaker 1: Is there a side of your personality, your creative personality,
25:02
Speaker 1: that would like to have that CD in the car?
25:04
Speaker 1: You're on Spaghetti Junction. It's 5 o'clock rush hour. I
25:07
Speaker 1: think it would move traffic.
25:10
Speaker 3: You know, possibly, you know, I mean, I don't know.
25:14
Speaker 3: Spaghetti Junction gets, you know, pretty bad here, you know,
25:19
Speaker 3: but that would just make me antsy and just want
25:22
Speaker 3: to hit the gas, you know, and get going.
25:24
Speaker 2: Yeah.
25:25
Speaker 3: Yeah.
25:25
Speaker 1: Yeah. You get those people from chips from the TV
25:27
Speaker 1: show chasing you down. You're going, hell no, man. I
25:30
Speaker 1: got a good CD. We ain't stopping.
25:34
Speaker 3: But that's definitely a, that's definitely an element that we've
25:37
Speaker 3: always had, you know, like the speed, you know, got to,
25:40
Speaker 3: You know, I mean, I'm not saying speed's everything, but,
25:43
Speaker 3: you know, it's like, you know, we're always going to
25:46
Speaker 3: have that in our sound, you know. And, you know,
25:49
Speaker 3: the guys definitely bring it to, you know, make it
25:53
Speaker 3: sound killer and everything.
25:55
Speaker 2: Wow.
25:55
Speaker 1: If you make it over here to Charlotte, we got
25:57
Speaker 1: to have a face-to-face conversation, dude. I'll show you some
26:00
Speaker 1: Charlotte barbecue versus your Atlanta barbecue.
26:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
26:05
Speaker 3: You know, I, I dig, uh, Charlotte, you know, that's been,
26:08
Speaker 3: you know, I've been there a couple of times and
26:10
Speaker 3: I really, really like it. And I hope that one
26:12
Speaker 3: of these days that the, the band, uh, will have
26:16
Speaker 3: the opportunity to play there.
26:17
Speaker 2: You know, we're actually going out on tour, um, In March,
26:23
Speaker 2: we're going out.
26:24
Speaker 3: To the West Coast with a metal band called Nervosa.
26:28
Speaker 2: Wow.
26:31
Speaker 3: The front woman is from Brazil, and they definitely have
26:37
Speaker 3: that heavy... like super heavy sound and everything. But, you know,
26:43
Speaker 3: we're hitting like Boise, Idaho.
26:45
Speaker 2: Wow.
26:46
Speaker 3: We're hitting Salt Lake City. We're hitting Denver, Portland, Vancouver, Seattle, Berkeley,
26:55
Speaker 3: Los Angeles, Pomona. We're hitting all those places with Nervosa.
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Speaker 2: Wow. So we're, you know, we're.
27:02
Speaker 3: Definitely looking forward to that and eventually maybe getting a.
27:06
Speaker 2: East coast tour and go up the East coast here, you.
27:09
Speaker 3: Know, because, you know, I'm, I'm originally from, uh, the
27:12
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh area, you know, and, uh, I actually formed the band,
27:16
Speaker 3: you know, in Morgantown, West Virginia. So, um, you know
27:20
Speaker 3: a million years ago so uh it would be great
27:24
Speaker 3: to bring this lineup you know up the east coast
27:27
Speaker 3: and you know so everybody can see the the band
27:30
Speaker 3: that i have now.
27:31
Speaker 1: You know you know what they say about the people
27:32
Speaker 1: from west virginia they fill up the gas tank and
27:35
Speaker 1: wherever the gas ends is where you live you got
27:37
Speaker 1: all the way down to atlanta from west virginia how
27:39
Speaker 1: the hell did you do that what kind of a
27:41
Speaker 1: car were you driving dude.
27:44
Speaker 3: No, I actually moved down here. I think it was
27:48
Speaker 3: December 2006.
27:49
Speaker 2: Wow.
27:50
Speaker 3: So it's coming up on 20 years. I've been in
27:56
Speaker 3: Atlanta and been part of the Atlanta scene here.
27:58
Speaker 2: I formed the band in the early 90s when I
28:03
Speaker 2: was a teenager.
28:04
Speaker 1: Wow.
28:06
Speaker 3: And we went through numerous lineups, several lineups and whatnot.
28:11
Speaker 3: But I felt like there, it's more... It's a college town.
28:15
Speaker 3: Morgantown is a college town. It had more of an
28:17
Speaker 3: alternative indie rock, punk rock vibe. hardcore type scene. And
28:28
Speaker 3: you had to go up to Pittsburgh to experience more
28:31
Speaker 3: of a metal scene. Um, but I didn't, I, I,
28:34
Speaker 3: I was, I'd already lived there and I wanted to
28:37
Speaker 3: live somewhere else, you know?
28:39
Speaker 2: And, uh, the girl that I was dating.
28:40
Speaker 3: At the time, she, uh, moved down to, uh, Atlanta
28:43
Speaker 3: and she's like, you know, like all the bands you
28:46
Speaker 3: talk about, they play.
28:47
Speaker 2: Here like every week.
28:48
Speaker 1: That's it.
28:49
Speaker 2: That's it. Yeah.
28:50
Speaker 3: She showed, she sent me a, a, a clipping from
28:54
Speaker 3: one of the local publications here and, for a place
28:57
Speaker 3: called the masquerade the masquerade downtown uh is the main
29:01
Speaker 3: rock club here and it was sure enough there's like
29:04
Speaker 3: cannibal corpse and napalm death and quicksand and gorilla biscuits
29:09
Speaker 3: playing and i'm like well that's the scene that i
29:11
Speaker 3: need to be a part of you know wow.
29:14
Speaker 1: Well you've got to come back to this show anytime
29:16
Speaker 1: in the future you know that the store is always
29:17
Speaker 1: going to be open for.
29:18
Speaker 2: You dude Yeah, man, I, you know, I definitely appreciate it.
29:23
Speaker 3: You know, it's I definitely love talking to you, man.
29:28
Speaker 2: All right.
29:28
Speaker 1: Well, man, you have yourself a brilliant day today.
29:30
Speaker 2: OK, Wolf. Yeah, you too. Thank you so much for
29:33
Speaker 2: having me on the show.