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It’s Hiroshima Day | Cal Tech’s ‘Fraud Squad’ · The Bill Handel Show

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
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  Speaker 1: six forty. You are listening to the bill Handle show.
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  Speaker 2: I am six forty bill Handle here on a Thursday morning,
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  Speaker 2: August six, yes, say one years ago, two day it
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  Speaker 2: was the bombing of Hiroshima. August ninth, it was Nagasaki.
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  Speaker 2: I'll talk more about that coming up at eight thirty
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  Speaker 2: this morning, half an hour from now.
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  Speaker 1: Quick word.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't exist anywhere else on the planet. Full orchestra,
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  Speaker 2: and it is well, I can't even describe it how
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  Speaker 2: good it is. And this year is particularly good. And
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  Speaker 2: so I'm going to suggest you take a look. Tickets
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  Speaker 2: start only forty two dollars. Every seat is good in
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  Speaker 2: the Masters in Laguna Beach and you'll email me and say, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: is as terrific as you say it is?
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  Speaker 1: For sure. Okay, Now, climate change.
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  Speaker 2: We know about the oceans rising, and if you look
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  Speaker 2: at Europe, even if you look at us, the wildfires
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  Speaker 2: are out of control.
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  Speaker 1: Europe is going crazy.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Europe is on fire, Spain and Italy, France.
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  Speaker 2: I mean they're still trying to control it with thousands
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  Speaker 2: of firefighters coming in. So here is another aspect, which
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  Speaker 2: is to spend that I haven't thought about and you
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  Speaker 2: probably haven't either.
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  Speaker 1: That is the two big.
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  Speaker 2: Rivers in Europe in this case, the Danube and the Rhine,
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  Speaker 2: and this trout. Climate change has lowered water levels lower
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  Speaker 2: than they've ever been. In Hungary, one of the four
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  Speaker 2: reactors that packs nuclear power plant shut down because the
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  Speaker 2: Danube lacks enough cooling water.
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  Speaker 1: And the Rhine cargo.
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  Speaker 2: Ships have to reduce their loads because the river is
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  Speaker 2: so low, so rates go up. Companies are curbing production
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  Speaker 2: because there's just no way to move their goods. This
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  Speaker 2: is the drought which is wreaking havoc along the rivers
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  Speaker 2: in Europe. In Romania, authorities set off an explosion beside
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  Speaker 2: a river to divert water to a power plant. In Bulgaria,
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  Speaker 2: two hundred vacationers had to be evacuated from a stranded
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  Speaker 2: cruise ship. It's just the mess over there, and all
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  Speaker 2: signs of how perilously low water levels are on Europe's
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  Speaker 2: most significant waterways. I mean, this is industry that ships
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  Speaker 2: goods along these rivers, the major rivers, not just navigation
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  Speaker 2: for fun and frolic on tours. It's a dry summer,
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  Speaker 2: lack of rain, swelling temperature, stoking wildfires. And now you've
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  Speaker 2: got these major stretches. Stretches of the Danube and the
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  Speaker 2: Rhine have become trickles. And well, it's gotten so low
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  Speaker 2: on the Danube you can walk parts of it, and
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  Speaker 2: it's receated enough to explode World War two era bombs
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  Speaker 2: and even older mammoth bones. You can see mammoth bones.
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  Speaker 2: It's so low. Nuclear plants are shutting down because they
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  Speaker 2: need massive amounts of water.
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  Speaker 1: They are near rivers.
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  Speaker 2: There are near for example, ours, the with San Dieglo
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  Speaker 2: plant in San Diego, which is shut down but for
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  Speaker 2: another reason. And so this week temperatures are set to
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  Speaker 2: rise above one hundred degrees again, and Hungary's Prime minister
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  Speaker 2: said the five most difficult days lie ahead.
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  Speaker 1: So how do they deal with it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, governments are going to be forced to step step
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  Speaker 2: up financial support for the power sector, which means they
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  Speaker 2: have less money to invest in companies and infrastructure. And
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  Speaker 2: here's what happened also, and this is going to affect you.
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  Speaker 2: If you happen to be on one of these river cruises.
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  Speaker 2: Viking River Cruise, which is a great line, one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and eighty six passengers had to come up ashore because
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  Speaker 2: they hit a sandbag, a sandbank just too low. Cruise
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  Speaker 2: operators have cancel voyages on the Danube and other rivers.
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  Speaker 2: On the Rhine, there was a Viking ship that ran
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  Speaker 2: a round water level gauge, delivering a daily dose of
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  Speaker 2: unbelievable pain as rivers are just drying up. It is
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  Speaker 2: a mess. It is a mess, and it's costing on
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  Speaker 2: a tourism level, it's you know, I mean, it's small
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  Speaker 2: potatoes to the economy, but on major industrial and transportation levels,
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  Speaker 2: because you've got major companies shipping through Europe along major.
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  Speaker 1: Waterways, they're drying up. Look at Lake.
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  Speaker 2: Powell, the biggest lake we have, I think it's in Utah,
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  Speaker 2: parts of Utah. If you ever watch Planet of the Apes,
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  Speaker 2: when that spaceship comes down in that huge lake. That's
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  Speaker 2: Lake Powell. Look at Boulder Dam or Hoover Dam. The
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  Speaker 2: water is so low that it's about to become a
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  Speaker 2: dead pool, not a movie, a dead pole. The water
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  Speaker 2: is so low that the pumps are going to stop working.
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  Speaker 2: And how many hundreds of thousands of homes rely on
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  Speaker 2: the electricity.
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  Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, climate change is a mess.
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  Speaker 2: And for people that say, oh, no, climate change doesn't exist,
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  Speaker 2: it's the hoax. Take a river cruise and just walk
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  Speaker 2: along the Danube and go, boy, look at these wonderful,
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  Speaker 2: wonderful sites.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 2: Now, peanut butter raises, what the god's name is? Peanut
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  Speaker 2: butter raises? Well, what do you do with peanut butter?
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  Speaker 2: You spread it, and you spread it evenly. So companies
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  Speaker 2: are calling their hiring or actually their increase in pay
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  Speaker 2: to workers getting away from peanut butter style pay raises.
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  Speaker 2: And that is well, for example, unions, all right, the
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  Speaker 2: same worker, if you work for a union or with
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  Speaker 2: the union, you can be lazier than the other worker
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  Speaker 2: and you're still going to get minimum pay, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: short of being fired for cause or fired just because
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  Speaker 2: you're doing that horrible a job.
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  Speaker 1: But in general, everybody.
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  Speaker 2: Gets the same pay. Well, companies are moving away from that.
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  Speaker 2: Why because well, they're a business model. Do they want
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  Speaker 2: more profit? Major companies are doing great, but they want
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  Speaker 2: more profit and they're moving to merit based pay raises.
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  Speaker 2: And it is a little bit different. Now, there are
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  Speaker 2: some merit pay raises out there, but they're few and
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  Speaker 2: far between with especially non union shops. And you've got
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  Speaker 2: this philosophy of everybody should be paid the same across
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  Speaker 2: the board, and you only get merit.
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  Speaker 1: The merit ish only comes in when.
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  Speaker 2: People are promoted, when they're extraordinarily good at what they
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  Speaker 2: do and they stand out. How about the rest of
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  Speaker 2: the beat worker Beece, Well, it's peanut butter pay. The
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  Speaker 2: average wage goes up three percent or three and a
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  Speaker 2: half percent. Thirty two percent of employers say they're planning
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  Speaker 2: a standard across the board increase for workers in twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty seven thirty two percent. Thirty six percent are doing
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  Speaker 2: it this year, so it goes down again next year.
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  Speaker 2: Ruth Thomas of Payscale, which is a compensation and benefit
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  Speaker 2: software companies, said, we're seeing organizations realize they have to
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  Speaker 2: deploy pay raises strategically.
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  Speaker 1: They have to deploy pay strategically.
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  Speaker 2: They have to think about business transformation because business is
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  Speaker 2: changing dramatically and that includes allocating pay budgets differently. So
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  Speaker 2: no more or far less peanut butter style pay raises.
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  Speaker 2: So for twenty twenty seven next year, employers plan to
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  Speaker 2: raise their base pay by three point five percent. This
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  Speaker 2: year it was point one percent, So they're doing people
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  Speaker 2: going to do better, but an average of three point
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  Speaker 2: five percent. Because a lot of these companies are bringing
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  Speaker 2: in a meritocracy. If everybody gets paid the same, and
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  Speaker 2: let's say you're in a manufacturing facility and everybody gets
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  Speaker 2: twenty two dollars an hour, Okay, that's what you get,
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  Speaker 2: twenty two dollars an hour. Well, how about the person
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  Speaker 2: does more work than the other person does a better job. Well,
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  Speaker 2: it's still basically twenty two dollars an hour. Everybody gets paid. Now,
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  Speaker 2: there are promotions, there are bonuses, but for the most part, it's.
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  Speaker 1: Peanut butter pay. And the bottom.
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  Speaker 2: Line, according to this company Payscale, is that the size
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  Speaker 2: of the budget compensation budget. The size of the compensation
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  Speaker 2: budget is not getting bigger. It's just how employers are
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  Speaker 2: choosing to slice it. That's the difference. So there are
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  Speaker 2: pay increases that are keeping ahead of pay inflation.
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  Speaker 1: Not this year, hopefully by next year.
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  Speaker 2: Consumer prices rose an annual three point five percent, and
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  Speaker 2: there are a lot of pay raises that went up
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  Speaker 2: three point two percent, three point four percent. This year
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  Speaker 2: has been miserable. Next year, they're anticipating better and employees
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  Speaker 2: in some industries could see larger and smaller raises than
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  Speaker 2: the three point five percent inflation rate. Keep in mind
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  Speaker 2: that the Fed wants a two percent inflation rate. That
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  Speaker 2: is the sweet spot is a two percent inflation rate,
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  Speaker 2: and we're almost double that right now. The cost of gasoline,
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  Speaker 2: I don't even know the cost of oil. It's dropped
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  Speaker 2: pretty dramatically over the last few days. Because this theoretical
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  Speaker 2: piece with Iran, there is some news. Iran and Oman
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  Speaker 2: just got to deal with each other. Nothing with the
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  Speaker 2: United States. Thing with the rest of the world. Is
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  Speaker 2: the straight of Hormuz open. No, not really, and the
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  Speaker 2: President has said, you got one more day and we're
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  Speaker 2: going to bomb you into oblivion. That bombing was so
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  Speaker 2: supposed to take place on Monday. Okay, that didn't happen.
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  Speaker 2: So Monday afternoon, for the eighth time. The President has said,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna bomb today, but I'm gonna hold off because
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  Speaker 2: the Iranians are desperate for a plea. They begged us
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  Speaker 2: to hold off on the bombing, and other Midi states
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  Speaker 2: that have said the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm going to hold off.
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  Speaker 2: Next couple of days, I guarantee you we're going to
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  Speaker 2: go back to bombing Iran into oblivion. We'll see maybe
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  Speaker 2: the ninth time. It's going to happen. Now, there have
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  Speaker 2: been strikes, there's no question about it. But is it
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  Speaker 2: a full scale war? A full scale war meaning that
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  Speaker 2: the President goes balls to the wall on the bombing
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  Speaker 2: of Iran. Iran takes its drones, missiles, drones and missiles there,
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  Speaker 2: navy has navy has been decimated, but they take their
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  Speaker 2: drones and missiles and attack Midy States and American bases
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  Speaker 2: in the Mid East. That's going to be war. Hopefully
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't happen. Hopefully the President is right that Iran
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  Speaker 2: is going to cut a deal. And by the way,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think he's making it up. I do not
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  Speaker 2: think he's making it up. I think he is hearing
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  Speaker 2: from factions in Iran that they really want a peace
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  Speaker 2: a peace plan. The problem is that there are two
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  Speaker 2: factions in Iran. There is the Government of Iran and
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  Speaker 2: then there's the Revolutionary Guard the IRCG, which controls the economy.
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  Speaker 2: So you've got the government saying yes, yes, yes, let's
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  Speaker 2: sit down, the Revolutionary Guard saying not a chance.
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  Speaker 1: And therein lies a mess.
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  Speaker 2: And the president is relying on the Government of Iran
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  Speaker 2: and not the RCG. I RCG that has made their statements. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: enough of that. Now today, eighty one years ago the
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  Speaker 2: bombing of Hiroshima when the United States dropped the first
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  Speaker 2: atomic bomb that had ever been created and used in
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  Speaker 2: warfare on Hiroshima three days from now August ninth. The
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  Speaker 2: second city was bomb Nagasaki, and as Neil and I
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  Speaker 2: pointed out, Neil actually three maybe three hundred thousand people
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  Speaker 2: died in those two bombings, mainly civilians. And it is
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  Speaker 2: well a lot of controversy in regard to atomic weapons
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  Speaker 2: and even to this day and even war today, who
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  Speaker 2: which countries have atomic weapons which do not? And the Iran,
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  Speaker 2: the war in Iran is based on in most part,
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  Speaker 2: for Iran creating an atomic bomb.
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  Speaker 1: So let me give you a little bit of history.
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  Speaker 2: The atomic bomb was created actually to bomb Germany. Japan
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  Speaker 2: was really not in the mix when it was first
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  Speaker 2: deemed possible. What really got President Roosevelt over the edge
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  Speaker 2: was a letter by Einstein, Albert Einstein, who said, I
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  Speaker 2: think we can create a weapon of enormous power based
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  Speaker 2: on his theories which had not been tested. Actually, the
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  Speaker 2: atomic bomb tested and confirmed Albert Einstein's theories. A group
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  Speaker 2: of scientists, mainly Jewish scientists who had left Germany because
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  Speaker 2: they had to in the thirties, ended up in the
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  Speaker 2: United States, and they were professors and they were very
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  Speaker 2: high end mathematicians. They got together based on Einstein and said,
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  Speaker 2: we can come up with this, we can develop this weapon.
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  Speaker 2: Because Germany was about to take over the world. Do it.
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  Speaker 2: They knew it, and so they figured out, how do
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  Speaker 2: we get how do we get FDR to pay attention
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  Speaker 2: to us? A letter from FDR from Albert Einstein put
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  Speaker 2: him over the edge. So the creation of the atomic bomb,
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  Speaker 2: no one knew it could be done. It was literally
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  Speaker 2: up in the air, and it was a theory. FDR
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  Speaker 2: backed it up. FDR bought the premise that the United
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  Speaker 2: States could conceive and create and deploy this bomb again
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  Speaker 2: it was mainly for Germany. By the time Hiroshima started,
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  Speaker 2: World War II was over in the Europe and the
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  Speaker 2: only people that were left that was fighting the United
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  Speaker 2: States was Japan. And of course the bomb was utilized
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  Speaker 2: in Japan. I'm going to talk about whether or not
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  Speaker 2: it should have been, because that's a bunch of controversy.
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  Speaker 2: And so the creation of the bomb was an extraordinary
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  Speaker 2: science fiction experiment. Basically no one knew. It was called
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  Speaker 2: the Manhattan Project, and it was so important. It was
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  Speaker 2: so big that the word Manhattan when they compare we're
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  Speaker 2: going to do this like the Manhattan Project. Either it's
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  Speaker 2: going to be a moonshot as describing how important how
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  Speaker 2: big a program is, or it's like the Manhattan Project.
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  Speaker 2: So the start of the Manhattan Project began, it was
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  Speaker 2: as top secret as it could possibly be, except the
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  Speaker 2: Russians were able to infiltrate and grab all the secrets,
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  Speaker 2: and that is another story onto itself. And so at
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  Speaker 2: point there were hundreds of thousands of people involved because
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  Speaker 2: the plutonium and uranium had to be created in order
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  Speaker 2: to effectuate critical mass so the bomb would explode. And
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  Speaker 2: what Einstein basically said is that in mass that is,
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  Speaker 2: in this case, uranium plutonium released the atoms would cause
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  Speaker 2: this enormous, enormous explosion. And that was again a theory.
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  Speaker 2: So FDR says, Okay, we're going to do it. How
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  Speaker 2: do you pay for something like this? This was two
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  Speaker 2: billion dollars in those days when two billion dollars was
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  Speaker 2: real money in nineteen thirty nine, nineteen forty, nineteen forty one,
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  Speaker 2: and so it had to be so secret. Congress didn't
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  Speaker 2: know about it. The only people that knew about it
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  Speaker 2: were a couple of people with the Pentagon and the
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  Speaker 2: top leadership of the Senate and the House. Two people
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  Speaker 2: on each side knew about it. So how do you
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  Speaker 2: pay for this? The President went to the speaker and said, effectively,
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  Speaker 2: I want you to put ten percent on top of
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  Speaker 2: the budget of the United States and just give it
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  Speaker 2: to me and don't ask questions. How would that happen today?
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  Speaker 2: And so based on all of that, and then there
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  Speaker 2: were nuclear plants at Tennessee that created the material, also
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  Speaker 2: up in Washington in Hanford, Washington, and they finally got
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  Speaker 2: together tiny little bits. It took hundreds of thousands of people,
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  Speaker 2: massive massive factories to produce literally grams of nuclear material grams.
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  Speaker 2: And by the time the bomb was dropped, and I
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  Speaker 2: heard that it was enough for one more bomb. I
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  Speaker 2: heard that it was enough for several bombs. And we're
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  Speaker 2: hearing history tells us both stories. Okay, eighty one years
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  Speaker 2: ago today, the atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima, followed
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  Speaker 2: three days later August ninth with Nagasaki, followed by the
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  Speaker 2: surrender of Japan. And I think I mean officially it
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  Speaker 2: was I think August fifteenth, although hero Hito, who is
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  Speaker 2: the emperor, was the emperor, stay the emperor, and then
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  Speaker 2: his son became the emperor. Because it's a line that
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  Speaker 2: goes back the chrysanthemum throne goes back thousands of years.
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  Speaker 2: I think that is or is that China. I always
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  Speaker 2: get the few confused, and I'm not going to say why,
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  Speaker 2: because Neil will immediately start.
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  Speaker 1: Screaming at me.
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  Speaker 2: All right, So the dropping of the bomb, the decision
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  Speaker 2: to drop the atomic bomb has a lot of controversy.
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  Speaker 2: It was Harry S. Truman that decided that Japan it
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  Speaker 2: was a legitimate target. He had no idea when he
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  Speaker 2: was Vice president that the bomb even existed. FDR did
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  Speaker 2: not share with the Vice President of the United States,
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  Speaker 2: the fact that the US had created an atomic weapon
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  Speaker 2: and they didn't know if it was going to work.
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  Speaker 2: The test that took place in Los Alamos and the
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  Speaker 2: desert of New Mexico. The scientists had no idea. And
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  Speaker 2: it was called Trinity. And it did explode, and when
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  Speaker 2: did and it test did and explode?
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  Speaker 1: Do you know when it did?
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  Speaker 2: When Truman was meeting with Churchill and Stalin at Potsdam
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  Speaker 2: to set up the post war world, and so Truman
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  Speaker 2: told Stalin, we have a weapon and it is a
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  Speaker 2: massive weapon. Stalin already knew about it because no matter
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  Speaker 2: he may have known that before Truman, before FDR, because
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  Speaker 2: Stalin was able to infiltrate the atomic pro the atomic
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  Speaker 2: weapons program. And that's a whole different story with Klaus
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  Speaker 2: Fuchs and Greenland, green Blatt and a few others. But
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  Speaker 2: I'll do that at another point. Way. Japan is about
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  Speaker 2: to surrender. Japan is decimated. There's nothing left of Japan.
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  Speaker 2: And there were those in the not so much the military,
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  Speaker 2: but certainly there were those in the know and scientists
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  Speaker 2: who knew pushed for the bomb only to be used
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  Speaker 2: as an example to the Japanese. Look what we can
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  Speaker 2: do and then that would facilitate the surrender. In reality,
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  Speaker 2: you have the war cabinet in Japan that literally controlled
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  Speaker 2: the military Tojo who was both the prime Minister and
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  Speaker 2: who was head of the war cabinet. These guys were nuts.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they were into taking over as much of
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  Speaker 2: the world as possible, starting in the thirties, going against
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  Speaker 2: Japan and then going into Indonesia and Vietnam and just
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  Speaker 2: going through that whole area part of China, and they
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  Speaker 2: were prepared to go to Warranta and they did and
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  Speaker 2: attack all those countries. And they were fanatic. And the
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  Speaker 2: military in Japan had been wiped out, their air force
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  Speaker 2: had been wiped out, their navy had been wiped out.
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  Speaker 2: The only thing was left was a smattering of army
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  Speaker 2: and the citizens of Japan who were told and would
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  Speaker 2: they would defend Japan to the last man. Woman and child.
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  Speaker 2: Kids were giving were given stakes, were given wooden steaks
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  Speaker 2: that were sharpened. Kids and were told and taught to
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  Speaker 2: attack Americans who are going to invade. And the only
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  Speaker 2: way to in fact win the war against Japan would
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  Speaker 2: have cost would have won. I mean, there's no question
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Japan would have caved but the military leaders in United
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: States figured there would be a million casualties because the
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Japanese were so fanatic about defendingly to surrender.
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: I hope the Japanese were in the process of no surrendering.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: They were nope, because you still had the war. You
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: still had they still had the war cabinet, and you
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: had tojo not doing it.
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  Speaker 1: He was hanged letter.
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  Speaker 2: Later on, you had some within the war cabinet saying yes,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: we're going to surrender. Most said no, and we're going
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: to defend the homeland every man, woman and child. It
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: took Herohito to make the final decision. The emperor decided
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: that we have to surrender because keep in mind that
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: Allied forces wanted unconditional surrender, no ifs ans or butts, unconditional.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: And then one of the big issues was letting hero
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Herohido stay as the emperor, which was agreed to. They
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: let him survive, and Herohito then agreed or actually he
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: told the military it's time to surrender. Because what Truman
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: did is he said, after the first bomb was dropped,
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: if you don't surrender unconditionally, there will be a rain
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: of death like you have never seen before.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't do it. That didn't do it.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: It took one more bomb and finally they realized that
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: it was over. And interestingly enough, Japan did surrender, and
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: they caved immediately. They no longer became a war power.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, when the American forces went
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: into Tokyo and everybody, no one argued, I mean they
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: America had won. Do you know that the people as
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: the American in the tanks and were driving down the
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: road to Tokyo, the main road, all of the people
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: that were lining the road turned their backs on the Americans.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: And the Americans thought that this was a sign of
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: this respect, and as a matter of fact, it went
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: the other way. It was a sign of respect. You
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: can never look at the Emperor, not allowed to be
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: looked at by people. He was just way about it.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: He was basically a god. And that same kind of
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: respect was given by the by the Japanese population to respect.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: We don't want to look them in the face because
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: that is not a sign of enough respect. It is
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: fascinating and I wish I could go on, and I
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: could go on for another hour. But that is a
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: little bit of history of the bombing of Hiroshima.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: And we're done. That's it.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: Tomorrow morning we come back again. I am not going
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: to be here tomorrow, so I'm not going to be
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: here tomorrow. I'm gonna pretend I be and take a
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: day off.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Is it your birthday?
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: I don't take my birthday off. As a matter of fact,
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: on my birthday, I do a double shift. I do
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: my show and then I asked to do Gary and
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Shannon show. No, I just have a pre arranged that
• 26:00
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• 26:02
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