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- 0:04Welcome to another edition of the Inspired Stories podcast,
- 0:08where leaders share their experiences so we can learn from
- 0:12their successes and be inspired by how they've overcome
- 0:15adversity. My name is Anthony Kotaspodi and
- 0:17today's guest is Bob Reddy, owner and strategic partner at
- 0:21Pridestaff Carlsbad. They are a staffing and
- 0:24employment agency that specializes in matching top
- 0:27talent with the right employers in industries like
- 0:30manufacturing, medical devices, and pharmaceuticals.
- 0:33Their mission is to consistently provide client experiences
- 0:37focused on what they value most, while their employee engagement
- 0:41program helps to build strong relationships now.
- 0:45Over the past 26 years, Pride Staff Carlsbad has earned
- 0:50notable recognitions including the 212° Award for Superior
- 0:55Performance and 13 Presidents Circle Awards for outstanding
- 1:00growth and profitability. Bob is a former Navy recruiter
- 1:04served in a variety of staffing leadership roles, including as a
- 1:09Commodore overseeing all Navy talent acquisition efforts for
- 1:13the Eastern Hemisphere. He also holds an NBA and
- 1:16Manpower Systems Analysis from the Naval Postgraduate School
- 1:20and is currently certified as a Senior Professional and Human
- 1:23Resources. With a strong background in
- 1:26solving organizational challenges, Bob brings a wealth
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- 2:05All right, back to our guest today, owner and strategic
- 2:08partner Pride staff Carlsbad. Bob, ready.
- 2:11I appreciate you making the time to Share your story today.
- 2:14I appreciate you having me on, Anthony.
- 2:16It's a pleasure and privilege to be here.
- 2:19All right. So Bob, I want to start by going
- 2:22way back before you were running your own staffing firm.
- 2:25You actually enlisted in the Navy right out of high school,
- 2:28is that correct? That's correct.
- 2:32So actually, I think before I could even get into that, I
- 2:36probably need to start a little bit before that to talk a little
- 2:40bit about my first job, which was actually selling newspaper
- 2:43subscriptions. It was for the The Baltimore Sun
- 2:47and it was not the the best job. It was my first job and it was
- 2:55it was definitely a learning experience.
- 2:58And, and I also probably should give you some some background.
- 3:00I'm first generation son of an immigrant.
- 3:03My mom unfortunately passed away when I was 2.
- 3:06And so I think the, the things, the, the two main lessons that
- 3:11my dad imparted on me very early on is that life's not fair and
- 3:16it doesn't owe you anything. You've got to work for what you
- 3:18want out of life. And so with that mindset, I had
- 3:21approached this job and found out I'm, I'm pretty terrible at
- 3:27sales. It was so bad that so we'd go
- 3:32out into to neighborhoods in a van, canvassed the neighborhood
- 3:36and I'll come back with our sales slips, meet me not with
- 3:40very many. And so our team leader would
- 3:43pull me aside and, you know, kind of go through everything,
- 3:47go through my sales and start asking.
- 3:51So what's the interaction like with the customer?
- 3:55And he said, do you give up after you get the the first?
- 3:58No. And I usually said yes if, if
- 4:02they tell me no, I, I don't push it any further.
- 4:05It's like, well, you're not doing your job right unless you
- 4:08get 3 no's. And so he would push me out
- 4:12again and encourage me to get 3 no's from every customer before
- 4:17giving up on the sale. This, this factors in trust me
- 4:21here. And so I also happened to be
- 4:26kind of a little bit of a, a weird kid.
- 4:29I think most kids their senior year, if they find out they only
- 4:33have a couple of classes to graduate, they would have a cake
- 4:36senior year and take it easy. I had an older sister that kind
- 4:40of paved the path for me on this.
- 4:42But I figured with those two classes, I could just go to
- 4:47college year early and take those as 100 classes, get
- 4:52college credit as well as high school credit.
- 4:54So that's what I did, started college at age 16 and it was in
- 5:03about a little year and a half in to to college.
- 5:09Right before I graduated from high school, a Navy recruiter
- 5:12started reaching out to me and again, my mindset from that
- 5:17previous sales experiences, he's not going to leave me alone
- 5:21until I give him three no's. So I'm going to go into the
- 5:23office, I'm going to give him three no's and he'll he'll leave
- 5:27me alone. Well, that didn't quite go the
- 5:30way that I thought. As he started asking about what
- 5:34I was doing in college. I, I told him I was on the pre
- 5:37Med track and he asked how that was going.
- 5:40And then he said, have you done the math on this?
- 5:42You realize that you still have to complete another two to three
- 5:47years of college before you can apply to medical school.
- 5:51That's going to be another four years and then additional time.
- 5:54It's going to be quite some time before you can actually practice
- 5:59medical care, start seeing patients.
- 6:02I have an opportunity for you that can have you providing
- 6:07medical care in about 6 months. And we also talked about some of
- 6:14the financial challenges. Having skipped my senior year of
- 6:19high school, I was constantly trying to make sure that I
- 6:23remain scholarship eligible. So I spent a lot of time in the
- 6:26library with books and a few other friends of mine that were
- 6:30in the same situation. But I also had this, this set of
- 6:34friends where mom and dad were paying for college and they were
- 6:38kind of on the eight-year program, going to parties every
- 6:41single weekend. And I figured there's, there's
- 6:43got to be some balance where I can have some life experiences
- 6:49and not have to, to worry about the finances of college.
- 6:53And so this Navy recruiter very astutely picked up on that as a
- 6:57need as well. And basically told me by joining
- 7:01the Navy, I, I could have college taken care of
- 7:04financially as well as get me fast tracked towards medical
- 7:08care. And so I enlisted as a hospital
- 7:11corpsman and it was actually a little different than what the
- 7:15recruiter said in that it wasn't six months, it was closer to
- 7:19three to four months. So he he was definitely true to
- 7:22his word and it was it was a blast.
- 7:26So what does a Hospital Corman do?
- 7:28A. Hospital Corman provides basic
- 7:31medical care and so I'd say it's closest to probably an LPN and a
- 7:37nurse. OK.
- 7:40And so you're learning this, you're providing this service.
- 7:45And at the same time, are you taking college courses or, or
- 7:48does that come later? So I by the time I enlisted, I I
- 7:53enlisted with about a year and a half of college credits.
- 7:57When I enlisted at 17 at my very first command there, I don't
- 8:04want to spend this entire interview sharing sea stories or
- 8:09sharing too many stories about my background.
- 8:11But there's there's a much longer story that got me to
- 8:15Bethesda Naval Medical Center, but known as the President's
- 8:19hospital. And while I was there in the
- 8:24Navy, the most senior enlisted folks that manage you are called
- 8:29Navy Chiefs. And my chief knew that I had
- 8:35pretty close to an associate's degree and so kept bugging me to
- 8:40go back to college to finish that.
- 8:42As I shared with you before, I was excited to be out of the
- 8:46library, be be out from behind books and actually being able to
- 8:51get my hands dirty with work. So that was kind of the the
- 8:56lowest priority or the the least thing I had on my mind.
- 9:00That's actually what led me to the Naval Academy.
- 9:04I got approved for tuition assistance and was thinking I'm
- 9:11going to be smart about this and I'm using quotes here.
- 9:15I'll hear quotes. I thought I would slow roll this
- 9:19by taking one college course on the weekend and it just so
- 9:22happened I kept getting assigned for watch those same times that
- 9:25I was approved for college. That one college class, my
- 9:31department head of the time, full full bird Navy captain
- 9:36ended up making a four strike phone call to the watch go
- 9:39coordinator to deconflict it and resulted in me getting all the
- 9:43worst watches, holiday watches after that.
- 9:46But he pulled me into his office later and he says OK I helped
- 9:50you out in the short term, what's your long term plan?
- 9:52And I told him just keep taking college classes and finish off
- 9:57my associates. And he was like wrong answer.
- 10:00He slid across 2 brochures, 1 was for Navy ROTC and one was
- 10:05for the Naval Academy. And he said, pick one, pick
- 10:08both, I don't care, but I want to see an application by the end
- 10:11of the week and really started, started an application because
- 10:16it is a a much longer arduous process than that.
- 10:19Having grown up in Maryland, I figured I'll show him, I'll
- 10:23apply to the Naval Academy. I won't get in and he'll leave
- 10:26me alone and that'll be the end of it.
- 10:29Well, as it turns out, I I got in.
- 10:34So you got in, you end up, you know, earning your Commission
- 10:37through the Academy. And from there, you know, kind
- 10:40of looking at your background here, it looks like a pretty
- 10:43remarkable career climb within the Navy recruiting manpower
- 10:47strategy. You served in Iraq leading some
- 10:50of the Navy's most critical HR operations.
- 10:53But I, if I understand correctly, you know, there was
- 10:57the, the early recruiting role in Minneapolis that I think, you
- 11:02know, you kind of developed a passion for solving manpower
- 11:06challenges. What, what was that experience?
- 11:08Why did that click for you? Why was it so meaningful?
- 11:11So that actually was supposed to be a, a footnote that was not
- 11:18supposed to be part of a continuing career.
- 11:24So what's not in my bio, what's not in my LinkedIn profile is
- 11:30well, I, I chose, I specifically chose FD and F Japan, the USS
- 11:36Cushing, which is a Spruance class destroyer no longer in
- 11:40service. I chose that to get as far away
- 11:45from the East Coast as as I could.
- 11:49As you probably saw, I went to boot camp in Orlando, went to
- 11:52hospital Corpsman, School, Hospital Corpsman, a school in
- 11:57Great Lakes, IL, and back to Annapolis.
- 12:01The Naval Academy really wasn't much of A join the Navy see the
- 12:04world experience at that point. And so wanted to get as far away
- 12:08as I could to, to start experiencing that, that life.
- 12:12I, I kind of craved. But also I knew it was going to
- 12:15be heavy operational and I, I knew it was going to be a
- 12:20challenge, but I also thought it what better way to immerse
- 12:23myself as a surface warfare officer in, in training.
- 12:27And so that was the plan what I wasn't really prepared for.
- 12:32So I left the Naval Academy about £150 on this frame.
- 12:36I'm about 511 and I went on board the ship just like any
- 12:44nuance and got seasick. Didn't really think much about
- 12:48it. I kept this up for a while and I
- 12:54was told don't worry, it'll be fine, it'll just go away.
- 12:59Throughout my career, I kind of had it impressed on me that I'm
- 13:03not a corpsman anymore. And so I need to focus on being
- 13:08a surface warfare officer. And so I kind of turned that
- 13:12side of my brain off and just kind of trusted when when along
- 13:16with whatever was presented to me.
- 13:19And so I just figured I would, you know, get sick over the side
- 13:23and then go back to doing what I'm supposed to do.
- 13:25And then at the end of the night, go see Doc.
- 13:27He would pop a lactated Ringer's IV and I'd get rehydrated and do
- 13:32it all over again. Well, this is not sustainable.
- 13:36And so it got to the point where I lost about 25 lbs in 20 days
- 13:42and I was told to go get checked out by a medical doctor onshore.
- 13:51The recommendation at the time was you need to stay behind and
- 13:56gain some weight back. You're about down to 3% body
- 14:00fat. If you lose any more, you're
- 14:02going to be risking brain damage.
- 14:04And the exo on the ship again. Thought he was trying to help me
- 14:10out. Found a doctor that would clear
- 14:13me, allowed me to get under way. The new Doctor wasn't talking to
- 14:17the corpsman on the ship. They prescribed contraindicating
- 14:20medications and in July of 1999 I briefly died on board Cushing.
- 14:27I was told that they spent about 30 minutes trying to revive me
- 14:33and I was medevacked off. The cool thing was I got to ride
- 14:36the bullet train. Didn't really get to see my many
- 14:39of the sites in Japan because I was deployed 85% of the time.
- 14:44But from there I was stashed at CNFJ and they were trying to
- 14:51figure out what to do with me. And rightfully so, because SWO
- 14:55Ensign's young Surface Warfare officers belong at sea, so there
- 15:00aren't too many shore opportunities for you.
- 15:03The two options that were presented to me was Navy
- 15:07recruiting Minneapolis and MAPS Indianapolis.
- 15:11So the military entrance processing station that
- 15:14everybody goes through when they join, that was in Indianapolis.
- 15:19One of those was in Indianapolis, and that was one
- 15:21of the options. The Navy recruiting district,
- 15:24Minneapolis opportunity wasn't really an opportunity per SE,
- 15:27because it was an O3 billet, A Lieutenant billet.
- 15:31I was only an Ensign, I was an O 1.
- 15:33And so to detail me into a position 2 grades higher than
- 15:38what I'm supposed to be in would require permission from the
- 15:42chain of command. And so I was told you need to
- 15:46call and do a, an interview from Japan with the executive
- 15:50officer. And if they like you and want to
- 15:53take risk on you and put you into that job, they you just
- 15:57need to impress them in the interview.
- 15:59And apparently I did. They decided to take a chance on
- 16:02me and that's how I got to Minneapolis.
- 16:06Wow, that's quite a path. So briefly died.
- 16:12That's the part I'm going to have to go back to there.
- 16:15And so was this because basically you're just, you're
- 16:19not able to retain anything. You're just you're getting sick
- 16:21all the time, probably throwing off your electrolyte levels
- 16:25passed out. Your body just shuts off like
- 16:28like the heart stop like you weren't breathing.
- 16:32Definitely a downward spiral and my body just couldn't keep up.
- 16:38And So what was that process like to revive you?
- 16:41Do you know? Obviously people have told you
- 16:43stories about clearly you don't you don't know you, you don't,
- 16:47you know you weren't aware conscious at the moment.
- 16:50But what, what stories did people relate to you?
- 16:53Oh. They they pretty much so the the
- 16:57exo actually same ethnicity as me, Asian, Indian and also
- 17:06Maryland native so and also went to the Naval Academy.
- 17:12So again, really kind of saw him as somebody that that I wanted
- 17:16to be eventually. He, I think immediately had
- 17:21regretted his decision to get me underway.
- 17:24And I was told that is about as white as the, the pullover that
- 17:29you're wearing. He he, he was pretty relieved
- 17:35when when I was revived and they were able to get me off the ship
- 17:39as quickly as possible. Do you think sort of that
- 17:43feeling bad had something to do with, hey, let's, you know, make
- 17:47this opportunity available for you to kind of like climb a
- 17:49couple of levels? No, so he, he pretty much he, he
- 17:55felt bad about the situation, but he, he just said, you know,
- 18:00they, they probably should have screened this sooner or he, he
- 18:04thought that it, it should have been caught earlier.
- 18:07But now I, I genuinely think he thought if something ended up in
- 18:13my medical record about not being able to get underway, that
- 18:17that would harm my career. And so I think he thought he was
- 18:20doing the right thing. But I get.
- 18:24It, it was playing with fire now looking in the rearview mirror.
- 18:28So you, you still, you had to, you know, they set up this
- 18:31interview for you. They, they, you know, kind of
- 18:34opened up the door, but you, you still had to hit this out of the
- 18:37park. You know, you, you've got to
- 18:39impress these folks. What what do you think you did
- 18:41in that interview that really caused them to sit up and take
- 18:44notice? It's it's hard to say because
- 18:47again, looking back, I was an Ensign.
- 18:49I don't know that I had much to offer other than that.
- 18:53What I found out after getting there is the village I went
- 18:56into. I've been gapped for at least a
- 18:58couple of years. Minnesota's one of those places.
- 19:01If you're not from there, most people don't want to go there.
- 19:04It's, it's a pretty harsh winter and a pretty long lasting winter
- 19:10period. And so it's, it's definitely a
- 19:14hard place to to recruit, but it's also a hard place to to be
- 19:19outside. And, and so the quality of life,
- 19:22I think first perceived by some people is isn't a good one.
- 19:27But I was pleasantly surprised when I got there about how how
- 19:32much it, it's definitely a great family atmosphere and definitely
- 19:36a a great place. It was a place where both of my
- 19:40my daughters were born and definitely a a great place that
- 19:45that I'm happy to have been part of.
- 19:47Do you feel like that? I don't.
- 19:50Do you call it a near death experience or do you call it a
- 19:52death experience? Cause the way you put it, you're
- 19:54like, I actually died for a little bit.
- 19:56Does it, has it changed? Yeah.
- 19:59Like, do you look back at that point in your life and like, was
- 20:03there like a flip of a switch? Like you view life differently
- 20:05now? Kind of, I'm saying.
- 20:08Yes, so I had been told very early on in my naval career by
- 20:14by chiefs, don't don't be a lifer.
- 20:17Don't plan on making this a career.
- 20:21Do it till it's no longer any fun.
- 20:23And it seemed like God advice at first, but essentially the the
- 20:28advice was don't be so focused on getting good performance
- 20:34evaluations or fitness reports to the point that you're not
- 20:38focused on doing a a good job. And, and I thought that was
- 20:43great advice, but because of the death experience or near death
- 20:48experience, it, it definitely taught me nothings to not take
- 20:56anything for granted. Nothing is, is promised.
- 20:59And much like my, my dad had advised me, you're going to have
- 21:02to work for, for everything that you want.
- 21:07It was, it was, it was looking back it, it's still, I think a,
- 21:14a challenging experience, but it definitely shaped who I am.
- 21:19I I think it also gave me a fire to not take any opportunity for,
- 21:25for granted. I think the easy thing when you
- 21:28consider the odds there, there aren't too many people who go
- 21:33from being enlisted to going into the Naval Academy.
- 21:39There aren't too many people who can get into the Naval Academy
- 21:43and then graduate from the Naval Academy.
- 21:45And so I think this point, my career, I'm not going to lie, I
- 21:51felt a little high on myself. I, I felt a little invincible.
- 21:55I felt like I can do anything. And I think this really was a
- 22:02humbling experience, but also was a recentering experience.
- 22:07I I hope I don't offend anybody, any of the listeners by talking
- 22:13about this, but faith definitely played a a huge role in in the
- 22:17way forward. You say more about that, I'm
- 22:22going to hear more about your faith and how how it's helped
- 22:24you. Well.
- 22:26I mean, I, I think when, when you do come close to realizing
- 22:34there's, there's no way forward. And, and even after being
- 22:40revived, after being medevaced, realizing how lucky I am to, to
- 22:44still be alive, feeling how lucky I, I was to, to get to
- 22:51Minneapolis, it was pretty sobering to think this is, this
- 22:59is a, an opportunity to somewhat get back on my feet.
- 23:04But that wasn't the plan. That wasn't the Navy's plan for
- 23:07me. And quite frankly, there were,
- 23:09there were really wasn't a way forward.
- 23:11What I mean was that the Navy's plan was we're going to send you
- 23:15to this recruiting billet and you're going to finish out your
- 23:19obligation to the Navy and and then then we're done where we
- 23:22part ways you separate from the Navy.
- 23:24That was the plan. I I did impress the XO who later
- 23:30fleeted up to be the Co and encountered all other, a lot of
- 23:35other officers that would pull me aside and say, hey, Bob, we
- 23:39would really like you to stay Navy.
- 23:41Have you ever thought about a lateral transition to another
- 23:44community? And even more so I'm going to
- 23:47help you out. And each of these officers would
- 23:51then come back to me and say, hey, Bob, I looked into this.
- 23:53And if if we, if you can't go to see, you're not going to see
- 23:57past O3, you're not going to be able to make it past Lieutenant.
- 24:00There's really not much of A way forward.
- 24:03And so when you go out recruiting, make sure you take
- 24:06your resume with you. You really need to think about
- 24:09your civilian options. And so, and I probably should
- 24:16mention this as well, a few a few months before July and and
- 24:23May of 99, I got married. And, and so my new bride, new to
- 24:30the Navy, new Navy spouse is enduring this whole experience
- 24:35with me. And when we get sent to
- 24:38Minneapolis, she's from Michigan.
- 24:40And so she's thrilled about the location, but she's still trying
- 24:45to wrap her head around, OK, so the organization that nearly
- 24:49killed my husband now wants him to go out and sell this
- 24:54organization. It it's, it's a daunting
- 24:58prospect when you think about it.
- 25:01But for me, going back to, to faith, I, I think my mind was
- 25:08really focused on being grateful, but also being very
- 25:11prayerful about the way I had because I couldn't see I, I, my
- 25:19first daughter was on her way. And so to know that I had a
- 25:25child on the way, to know that I don't have prospects to continue
- 25:29in a career that I've known since I was 17, turned 18 in
- 25:34boot camp was, was pretty scary. It was a scary time.
- 25:40But obviously, you know, you do decide to stay in the Navy and
- 25:44you have, I'm going to use the word meteoric.
- 25:47Meteoric rise to the ranks. I think we said in the intro
- 25:51that you were in charge of all recruiting for the entire East
- 25:55Coast. So clearly, you know, I'm going
- 25:59to put words in your mouth. So tell me if I'm right or wrong
- 26:02here. You, you found a passion, you
- 26:04enjoyed kind of this HR aspect of the the Navy that you had
- 26:10discovered, am I right? Eventually, yes, when when I was
- 26:17when the opportunity presented itself in 2001, the Navy stood
- 26:22up a human resources community. So this path didn't even exist
- 26:27prior to me getting stationed in Minneapolis.
- 26:30And again, that's where I can't see that as anything but a God
- 26:34thing. It's definitely not something I
- 26:37could have planned on, but even when that opportunity presented
- 26:42itself and I was heavily encouraged to apply, I wanted
- 26:47nothing to do with it. I pretty much told my superior
- 26:52officers, if I'm going to do human resources, I think I'd
- 26:57rather do that on the outside than in the Navy.
- 27:02And, you know, go to the Naval Academy to become a human
- 27:07resources officer. It was my mindset.
- 27:10You're you're supposed to be a war fighter.
- 27:12And at least that that was my mindset at the time, but I
- 27:19really didn't think through at the time that I, I know now is
- 27:23there's so much that hangs on the behind the scenes work.
- 27:28Something that that I going back to being a hospital corpsman,
- 27:33something that I found was a talent of mine was Vena
- 27:35puncture. And that wasn't a talent I think
- 27:40I was necessarily born with. It's one that I acquired.
- 27:43When you go through hospital Corman a school, you, you
- 27:46practice on each other as, as adults for blood draws and
- 27:51things like that. But I got assigned to to
- 27:54Pediatrics and to draw blood on a three day old baby whose veins
- 28:00are are just developing. It was it was pretty challenging
- 28:05at first, but once I got the hang of it, it was pretty easy
- 28:08to draw blood on adults. And that's the sort of thing I
- 28:12think you don't really think about as a life saving skill.
- 28:16Most people think about like triage, patient care or
- 28:20responding to a code, all the exciting things.
- 28:23You're never going to see a, a poster, you know, highlighting
- 28:26being a puncture for a medic for medical field.
- 28:30That's just something I think we all take for granted.
- 28:33Human resources is one of those things as well.
- 28:35That's behind the scenes. If you do it right, nobody's
- 28:39ever going to take notice. You're never going to see a
- 28:41well, maybe you'll never see, I doubt you'll ever see a Navy
- 28:46poster highlighting Navy HR officers or actually behind the
- 28:51scenes. And it's it's a language that
- 28:54most war fighters don't speak. But when they realize,
- 28:58especially the more senior they get, how important and power and
- 29:01manning are, it's it's an invaluable skill.
- 29:07And so at what point did you make the decision that you were
- 29:10ready to transition from the Navy into civilian life?
- 29:16So that last tour that I did as Commodore, it was pretty
- 29:22grueling Time was I think it was around 2022 when the services,
- 29:28except for the Marine Corps were in the newspapers or the
- 29:31headlines for not being able to make their recruiting goals.
- 29:36That was about the time that I got tapped to to be Commodore.
- 29:40Unlike most other Commodores, I went straight into the job.
- 29:43Most other Commodores, you start out as the deputy and you fleet
- 29:46up and I was afforded the opportunity because of my
- 29:51extensive recruiting background and experience.
- 29:54But it was a it was a tough, tough job at the time and and
- 29:59still is a tough job but. Tough job because you guys
- 30:02weren't making the numbers that you needed to make or, or
- 30:04something else. Yes, tough job because we
- 30:07weren't making the numbers we weren't making.
- 30:09There's a lot of scrutiny on Navy recruiting and it was it,
- 30:15it was, it's, I think in the same way that infection winning
- 30:18can be infectious, I think losing also can be infectious.
- 30:22And so it was a, a tough spot to, to wrap our, our minds
- 30:28around of, of being able to be successful.
- 30:30I think a lot of folks were focused on all the reasons we
- 30:33couldn't instead of the, the ways that we could.
- 30:37But I, I've been there and done that.
- 30:40When I went to Minneapolis back then, there were 31 recruiting
- 30:44districts and we were 31 of 31. And I'm happy to say that by the
- 30:50time I was, by the time I had left, we were consistently in
- 30:54the the top ten, if not top five.
- 30:56And so. I What were some of the big
- 30:59levers that you pulled to affect that kind of rise?
- 31:02I, I really think it boils down to, to teamwork.
- 31:05I, I strongly believe that if you break down the, the stove
- 31:12pipes and you leverage teamwork, I, I, I think there's a lot more
- 31:19that you can accomplish. So specifically when I was on
- 31:24the officer recruiting side, many of the officer recruiters
- 31:28wouldn't share information, share leads with the enlisted
- 31:31recruiters. And I, I can say from my, my own
- 31:36experience, I think typically when you talk to a lot of
- 31:40military recruiters, they're going to talk from their
- 31:42experience and very few of them have been enlisted an officer.
- 31:47So they can't talk to you about both sides of the fence.
- 31:51When I was put in charge of officer recruiting at
- 31:53Minneapolis, that was that was another thing.
- 31:57I was the most junior guy at the command and was a huge lesson in
- 32:03positional leadership to be in charge of more senior officers
- 32:06as a junior officer. But I was later put in charge of
- 32:12enlisted recruiting simultaneously.
- 32:14So I still manage office recruiting and enlisted
- 32:17recruiting and I, I really work to try and break down those
- 32:20barriers to make sure that we were sharing information across
- 32:24lines. And I, I think don't know if
- 32:29you've heard of anybody having this experience, but
- 32:31unfortunately it can be a common one where a, an enlisted
- 32:35recruiter talks to you about joining the military with a
- 32:40college degree and doesn't even talk to you about officer
- 32:43programs. That unfortunately was fairly
- 32:47commonplace until I was put in charge.
- 32:49And we really tried to make sure that that didn't happen.
- 32:52Now it's at least in the Navy, it's policy that that you're
- 32:55supposed to be talked to about officer programs if if you have
- 32:58a college degree, so. Make sure that people know all
- 33:02their options that that are available to them.
- 33:05Yeah, you know, it's good to have that transparency.
- 33:07And so how did the opportunity to acquire 'cause I want to get
- 33:11to kind of more present day stuff, How did that opportunity
- 33:14to acquire the Pride staff franchise in Carlsbad, CA come
- 33:19about? So it was definitely not a
- 33:22straightforward opportunity. I, I swore after the Commodore
- 33:29job and after retiring from the Navy, I had told myself and my
- 33:33family that I wasn't going to do anything.
- 33:36HR wasn't going to do anything staffing related, was going to
- 33:40do something completely different.
- 33:42And I, I really tried to make good on that.
- 33:46I, I did explore a lot of other opportunities and really didn't
- 33:53resonate with, with any of them. It was doing some exploration
- 34:00with franchises and then more specifically with, with Pride
- 34:03staff. When I came home and told my
- 34:06wife Sally about it, she said you really need to pursue that.
- 34:08And I told her, well, I thought we agreed we're not doing
- 34:11anything in staffing. She said, you, you really need
- 34:14to look at this because this is the first time I've seen your
- 34:17face light up with an opportunity that you brought
- 34:19home. So.
- 34:22Spouses. No, they can see it.
- 34:24Yes, they can see it in your eyes.
- 34:25Yeah, Go ahead. Let's hear more about that.
- 34:29I I really have to credit Sarah Brown.
- 34:32She works with Vetrapreneur, a really great organization and
- 34:37ultimately she is who led me to the the Pride staff resale.
- 34:43But an unexpected person in in my life, somebody I had served
- 34:49with at NRD San Diego, one of my former senior chiefs, John
- 34:53Maceda was really a true mentor and friend.
- 34:56He actually owns a a rival franchise staffing franchise.
- 35:00And yet he was so gracious throughout the process to kind
- 35:05of walk me through things. I I definitely think without my
- 35:11wife's ally support I wouldn't have taken the the leap of faith
- 35:15with it. But there's also lots of prayer
- 35:18involved. No.
- 35:21And so let's see, we're recording this in June of 25.
- 35:24You acquired the franchise in the fall, September of 24.
- 35:30So just just under a year kind of under your belt.
- 35:34How's that transition been? You know, obviously you gained A
- 35:38tremendous amount of HR recruiting experience in the
- 35:43Navy, but you know, got to be some big differences between
- 35:47that and sort of the private sector.
- 35:49Is that right? Yes, huge differences and
- 35:53challenging in some ways and less challenging in others.
- 35:56I, I, I feel like convincing a, an individual or even their,
- 36:02their parents to allow their son or daughter and to go in the
- 36:05harm's way is, is much different prospect than what I do with
- 36:09that pride staff. In fact, I think quite the
- 36:11opposite. I'm, I'm usually trying to look
- 36:15out for the, the welfare of my temporary associates or, or
- 36:19direct hires and really trying to work with companies that are
- 36:23not cutting corners, that are, are very looking at mitigating
- 36:29work workers comp issues and that sort of thing that are OSHA
- 36:33compliant. And so definitely different,
- 36:38different perspectives and, and different approaches to take.
- 36:44There's a, there's a lot of similarities in that while
- 36:51always within the Navy and Navy recruiting the the same exact
- 36:55sail system is the same exact sail system that Pride staff
- 36:59uses currently, but they also use CRMS and, and so there's
- 37:08different CRMS that Pride staff uses than the Navy.
- 37:12The Navy uses Salesforce and like a lot of companies to do
- 37:17Pride Staff uses bullhorn and it's just a a matter of just
- 37:23learning the the differences. But it's, it's been great to
- 37:30have a scoped down responsibility instead of having
- 37:33to worry about 6000 folks, it's now just three additional folks.
- 37:39And it's also great to have a lot more autonomy.
- 37:43There's very few things I have to go to the franchise or for.
- 37:47There's there's a lot of autonomy that I have on my own
- 37:50and. Yeah, that's a big difference
- 37:52from the Navy, right? There's a chain of command.
- 37:54There's sort of a way of doing things that's that's a red tape
- 37:56to to, you know, kind of do things a little bit off script
- 37:59there, right? Yeah.
- 38:01I I also appreciate so it's, it's both ends in in the Navy.
- 38:07It was really the the Navy's the customer that I was trying to
- 38:11staff and and source for on this end.
- 38:16It's I'm I'm trying to trying to recruit and retain the best
- 38:20talent, but for companies, I'm also looking to seek out good
- 38:26clients to align these opportunities with.
- 38:30And it's been gratifying because usually with the Navy, it's 18
- 38:35months to two years is the longest you're spending in one
- 38:38spot. And then it's time to move on.
- 38:41I'm excited to to be in in North County San Diego and and being
- 38:45able to make connections with the the local business community
- 38:50and being able to to help folks out.
- 38:53I have to imagine even, you know, with all that recruiting
- 38:56and staffing experience that you had that, you know, coming into
- 38:58the private sector and you know, it's, it's, it's a business
- 39:02model, different business model now and different approach and
- 39:05different software tools that, you know, you, you have to rely
- 39:09on sort of some of the team that's in place to kind of help
- 39:13you kind of, you know, get coached up and to a place where
- 39:16you can be an effective leader. Can you say more about the the
- 39:20team that you're working with there?
- 39:22Sure. So I mean, in the intro you
- 39:26highlighted several different accolades.
- 39:28The the office is 1 and I, I really have to give all, all the
- 39:32credit to the team. Leilani is my, my branch manager
- 39:36and she's been with the office for almost 6 years.
- 39:39She hails from Oceanside and previous construction management
- 39:43background. Ilani has a really unique way of
- 39:48connecting with a variety of job seekers and clients.
- 39:52There aren't too many folks that can talk to a variety of folks
- 39:57from different professions, but she's very well versed and she
- 40:01genuinely cares about improving your circumstances, I I also
- 40:05think. From experiences I've had with
- 40:08her, she's an out-of-the-box thinker and she often comes up
- 40:10with creative solutions to motivate the team while
- 40:14maintaining accountability. She also always tries to get to
- 40:19to yes for both the associates and the clients and so I I
- 40:23really appreciated having her as the branch manager.
- 40:27Miriam. She recently stepped into my
- 40:29staff and consultant role and she's been with the office for
- 40:33over 10 years. She hails from Vista and she
- 40:36came to us from UEI and happens to also be bilingual.
- 40:41When I first took over, Miriam was kind of a fairly reserved
- 40:45recruiter assistant, but since then she's really blossomed,
- 40:49taking on more and more responsibilities and challenges.
- 40:53I think because of her years of experience and her positive
- 40:55attitude, she handles all sorts of complex tasks and and make it
- 41:01makes it look easy. Payroll is one of those things
- 41:03that you have to get right. Oh, yeah, absolutely.
- 41:10You don't get people paid on time.
- 41:12You make mistakes in their checks.
- 41:14The relationship's going to sour pretty fast.
- 41:16Say, say more about the the role that the Pride staff franchise
- 41:21wore is kind of played in helping you kind of get up to
- 41:24speed and, you know, feel comfortable about the business.
- 41:27What what value are they providing?
- 41:29Yeah. I'm sorry, I I would be remiss
- 41:32if I didn't mention Edith. She's the newest member of the
- 41:35team. She just joined last month.
- 41:37She hails from Vista as well and she's also quickly learning the
- 41:41recruiter assistant role. She's also bilingual and has
- 41:44been a great addition to the team.
- 41:47But getting back to your question on the franchise or I,
- 41:52I think one of the, one of the things that I did prior to pride
- 42:00staff is I, I did look into HR consulting just on my own.
- 42:06And aside from the, the experience of being able to, to
- 42:14talk to the folks, being able to help them, there's, there's a
- 42:18lot of doing everything on your own and figuring things out on
- 42:22your own, coming up with your own business plan.
- 42:25And while that's freeing, it's, it's also kind of daunting.
- 42:28And so doing my homework on the different competing franchise
- 42:35Staffs, staffing agencies, Pride staff was one that really spoke
- 42:39to me, really presents as a, a family environment.
- 42:44And they were, they were really great about letting me, you
- 42:50know, actually go out to Fresno to the headquarters, getting to
- 42:54kind of talk with all of the, the upper management.
- 42:57And on a daily basis, like I said before, there's not a whole
- 43:00lot that I have to constantly ask for permission on on a daily
- 43:04basis. But when there are thorny,
- 43:07thorny workman's comp issues or other things like that, they're
- 43:13in the background to support. And so they've been a ready
- 43:15resource. That's terrific.
- 43:18So I didn't realize it. You, you kind of shopped around,
- 43:21you know, it wasn't like it was just the Pride staff opportunity
- 43:24fell in your lap and you're like, oh, OK, this is where we
- 43:26go. It's like, no, you, you did your
- 43:27research, you did your due diligence to look into the
- 43:30different franchise systems, and Pride staff was the one that
- 43:33really felt comfortable to you. It it is.
- 43:37I think it certainly helps that you know, when, when I in doing
- 43:41my due diligence looking at the different franchises, I, I
- 43:48wanted to go to one that actually values my background
- 43:53and, and my service. And about a month after I
- 43:56purchased my Pride Staff location, Pride Staff was ranked
- 44:01by Entrepreneur Magazine as a top franchise for veterans for
- 44:06its 7th consecutive year. And so that was definitely a
- 44:09determining factor when you look at the amount of awards.
- 44:15So the my office is, is 1 consistently a number of awards,
- 44:20but the Pride staff franchise has been awarded clearly rated
- 44:24best of staffing for all three possible areas, client, employee
- 44:28and talent set talent satisfaction.
- 44:32That spoke a lot to me as well. I wanted to work with the
- 44:34company where I I wouldn't definitely be working from the
- 44:38the I wanted to work from the ground up, but I didn't want to
- 44:41have to build a brand on my own. And Pridestaff is one of those
- 44:45brands that is is fairly recognized and awarded for it.
- 44:50So tell us, Bob, about the services that you provide.
- 44:55I don't know if you're doing, you know, temporary temp to
- 44:58hire, direct hire. Like what specific industries
- 45:02are you serving? What size companies kind of
- 45:04paint a picture for us here? OK.
- 45:07So we offer the full spectrum of staffing solutions.
- 45:10We do temporary, we do temp to hire, we also do direct hire
- 45:14really depends on what the client's needs are.
- 45:16And as you mentioned our our mission is to consistently
- 45:19provide clients with what they value most.
- 45:22And so we really start from the client's perspective.
- 45:27Again, this is, this is where given my own experience in
- 45:30recruiting, I think I told you that I didn't really have the,
- 45:35the best start with sales when I first started out.
- 45:39I, I don't think I mentioned this, but when I went through
- 45:43Navy recruiting school before going to Minneapolis, they
- 45:47actually gave us a personality profile and the Myers Briggs
- 45:52test. And I tested out as an introvert
- 45:56and I got pulled aside in class and was told, sorry, you're,
- 45:59you're really going to struggle with this because you're an
- 46:02introvert and you know, the best sales people are extroverts.
- 46:05And so sorry about that. Just be be aware of it.
- 46:09And you're going to need to make sure that you work extra hard on
- 46:13this. So knowing that I was terrible
- 46:16at sales and that I'm an introvert, was really excited
- 46:19going into Minneapolis. The funny thing is the the tour
- 46:24after that, after really recognizing it was a sink or
- 46:28swim opportunity where I, I just had to figure out how to make it
- 46:32happen. The, the tour after that, I, I
- 46:36went to the Naval Postgraduate school where I got my MBA.
- 46:39They tested, they gave me the Myers Briggs as well.
- 46:43And I tested out as an extrovert.
- 46:45And before you start thinking that my personality widely
- 46:50swings, I was a borderline introvert and I tested as a
- 46:53borderline extrovert. And so I, I think what I learned
- 46:56from that whole opportunity is that if you give yourself over
- 46:59to the process, there's opportunities for growth,
- 47:02there's opportunities for change.
- 47:03And, and I think if I can do it, anybody could do it.
- 47:08But getting back to pride staff. I think sorry, before we get
- 47:12back to pride staff for a moment, Bob, sorry, sorry to cut
- 47:15you off because this is this is a really important point.
- 47:17And I, I want to celebrate this a bit because I think as human
- 47:21beings, sometimes we get stuck in sort of this fixed mindset of
- 47:25right, I, oh, I'm terrible at sales.
- 47:26I'm always going to be terrible at sales.
- 47:28I'm an introvert. Introverts are not going to be
- 47:30good at like, and you could insert sort of different
- 47:33descriptors here, you know, oh, I'm not good at sports.
- 47:36Oh, I'm not good at math. I'm not, you know, I'm not a
- 47:39people. What whatever it is, you, you
- 47:41can sort of put yourself into a box and say, well, that's just
- 47:44how I'm always going to, because that's the way that I am now.
- 47:47And I think what your story really highlights is we're
- 47:50malleable, right? When when we put the effort
- 47:54forward, when we put ourselves into these more uncomfortable
- 47:59situations, that's where we really allow for growth to take
- 48:03place. And that's, you know, your story
- 48:06is emblematic of that. Absolutely.
- 48:11I, I, I found that I, I learned the sales process.
- 48:15I, I learned the scripts, but none of those really were me.
- 48:22And, and so where I found the most success in in recruiting
- 48:26and Navy recruiting and, and also with pride staff is
- 48:31starting with listening, building a relationship.
- 48:34And though I found the more that I listened to the people I'm
- 48:38genuinely trying to help, the the better the outcome would be.
- 48:43So instead of trying to do the typical sales hard sell, taking
- 48:47a round peg, trying to jam it into a square hole where you
- 48:52know, it's not necessarily what the, the applicant or the client
- 48:55wants, but it's what, what the organization needs to make
- 48:59happen that that's just building in turnover and transition.
- 49:06And so I, I'd rather enter with the, the right starting point of
- 49:10trying to figure out what, what is it that you find most
- 49:14valuable? What is it that you want the
- 49:16most out of this opportunity? And and that's exactly how Pride
- 49:21staff's geared. And so I think from that
- 49:26perspective, it's just been gratifying to be able to work
- 49:33with lots of you had asked about the profile of the customers
- 49:37that we serve. We work with a lot of small to
- 49:40medium businesses. We do work with some larger
- 49:43businesses as well, but I think it's typically the small to
- 49:47medium customers that really value their personnel.
- 49:51Because they're smaller, they can't afford to spend a lot on
- 49:56turnover and friction because they they're smaller there.
- 50:01There's also not a whole lot of room to hide mediocrity.
- 50:05So they want to make sure that they're getting the full value
- 50:07of their employees and they, they just don't want to be in a
- 50:14cycle of fire and fire. They one of the greatest
- 50:17compliments, but also one of the biggest challenges that I have
- 50:20because my office has been around for over 26 years.
- 50:23When I visit old dormant clients, they'll usually tell me
- 50:29I've I've heard this repeatedly. We love pride staff.
- 50:32You guys do such a phenomenal job.
- 50:34In fact, the person that you sent us three years ago, they're
- 50:36they're still on board our our team.
- 50:38And thank you you'll, you'll be the first call when we need
- 50:42somebody. But sorry, I think you did too
- 50:45good of a job, honestly. So yeah, it it it's.
- 50:51Very, if somebody's not going to give you an order for, you know,
- 50:53some personnel that's the reason that you want to hear is last
- 50:57time we hired you guys, it worked out so well.
- 51:00We're not having that turnover. Yeah, that's great.
- 51:07So been at this 10 months, obviously you know, you did your
- 51:12due diligence sort of getting into before making the decision
- 51:16to to proceed. Anything that surprised you in
- 51:20particular after you acquired the franchise and sort of got in
- 51:25there and looked under the hood? So I, I will say when I first
- 51:30took over in October, I was hearing a lot from clients of,
- 51:34well, there's a lot of uncertainty depending on what
- 51:36happens with the election, we'll be in touch.
- 51:40But there are a lot of folks kind of hedging their bets that
- 51:44has morphed into there's a lot of uncertainty with tariffs and
- 51:48other things. And so they're, they're folks
- 51:51that are uncertain and kind of hedging their bets.
- 51:55I guess what, what has surprised me is just how resilient my, my
- 52:01team has been, but also how determined and, and focused
- 52:08they, they can be. And I, I think a lot of the
- 52:13clients that have stuck with us as well have, have really gotten
- 52:18to, to get full value out of, out of our relationship.
- 52:21There have been ones we've really tried to work hard to,
- 52:28to, to make sure that it's a a mutually beneficial relationship
- 52:33trying to phrase this appropriately.
- 52:38But I, I, I guess in taking over for from the previous owner, I
- 52:45was just looking over contracts and just looking at where we're,
- 52:50where we were at. I guess a regular annual
- 52:53contractor view wasn't a thing. And so that, that's something
- 52:57that that I had to work with each client to let them know.
- 53:01Look, we haven't over the past five years, we haven't adjusted
- 53:06anything for inflation. We haven't adjusted for Fuda and
- 53:10Psuda. And so there's just cost that do
- 53:13go up. And I think there, there's
- 53:18definitely a relationship that you want to maintain, but at the
- 53:20end of the day, it is a business and you need to be able to, to
- 53:23stay in business. And so I, I think just being
- 53:26able to kind of add some, some discipline and record to, to
- 53:30some of the processes. Were those some hard
- 53:33conversations to have with customers, You know, if they've
- 53:35sort of gotten comfortable with their rates being where they
- 53:37were for the last five years? And now here comes the new guy
- 53:41and he's saying, yeah, we we got to revisit this.
- 53:45Yes, just there, there were definitely some difficult
- 53:49conversations and and yet there were some really great clients
- 53:53that I even had some clients that came back and said, wow,
- 53:57this is really fair. You could have really hyped
- 53:59things on us. But I, I appreciate your
- 54:02transparency. I appreciate where you're at
- 54:05and, and those clients are still with us.
- 54:07There are some that I, I think we're thinking that just because
- 54:13of the years that we've had a relationship that somehow I can
- 54:16magically offer some kind of discount for, for that.
- 54:21And at the end of the day, I just needed to keep a solvent.
- 54:26Yeah, I'm sure that, you know, kind of introducing some of
- 54:30those new processes and, you know, turning the dials.
- 54:32Obviously you don't have to reinvent the wheel because it's
- 54:35been a very successful franchise for a number of years.
- 54:38I'm kind of curious maybe from a, a growth perspective, if in
- 54:42the time that you've been there, you've been you've had ideas
- 54:45that you want to implement or you've been able to start
- 54:48introducing some new ideas on, hey, how can we do more work
- 54:52with our existing customers or go and find new customers and
- 54:55kind of get our name out there a little bit more.
- 54:58Yes. So I, I, I think something that
- 55:03was often overlooked and still until we start talking about it,
- 55:06is I, I think there are a lot of businesses that see the, the
- 55:12cost or the expense associated with using a staffing agency,
- 55:15but don't realize the, the cost benefits to using a staffing
- 55:19agency. In times of uncertainty, like
- 55:23now is, is one of the best times to use a, a staffing agency when
- 55:28it, as a business owner, I think I'm constantly mindful of
- 55:32unemployment insurance and the hikes that, that happen when you
- 55:37have lots of turnover. If you're a business that's
- 55:41either growing or, or shrinking and you use a staffing company,
- 55:44then you don't have to take that hit.
- 55:46And so that's, that's where companies like mine can come in
- 55:50and help you grow or, or scale appropriately.
- 55:55I, I, I think that's just making folks more aware.
- 55:59So I, I, I shared the, the feedback that I had gotten about
- 56:05some of our dormant clients not need not utilizing us because we
- 56:10did too good of a job filling their need before.
- 56:13That's not widely known, I think.
- 56:16And so just trying to get that out there to a lot of folks.
- 56:19I, I think just creating more awareness, I think.
- 56:24How would you characterize your superpower?
- 56:30I would I've, it's funny, when I ask other folks, I'm frequently
- 56:38told that I'm unflappable. There are a few folks that have
- 56:42seen me kind of get riled up about a lot of things and I, I
- 56:46attribute that to to a variety of factors.
- 56:49I definitely think faith again comes into it, but I think
- 56:53having a a difficult situation growing up without a a mother,
- 57:02some other challenges, I think enlisted boot camp, I think
- 57:06going through the Naval Academy, I think a little over a year
- 57:11long tour in Iraq. I think all of those things
- 57:13helped shape what's worth getting excited about or
- 57:17changing perspectives on things and definitely the the
- 57:22experience on board Cushing. Yeah, I have to imagine losing
- 57:26your mother at the age of 2. I mean, that just has rippling
- 57:30effects throughout your life. Were there obviously, you know,
- 57:34you mentioned your dad a couple of times.
- 57:36He was a, a big force in your life.
- 57:38Were there other family members, extended family members around
- 57:42who were able to kind of step in and and help out with things?
- 57:46My unfortunately for my oldest sister, Keitha, she, she pretty
- 57:52much had to kind of take on a lot greater responsibilities.
- 57:58We had an aunt that looked with us and took care of us for
- 58:04several years but but ultimately I think it was a lot of growing
- 58:11up quicker than than probably most kids should.
- 58:15Yeah. Are there any daily habits or
- 58:20practices, maybe even rituals, that Bob either helped to get
- 58:24you started in the day help keep you on track as you're going
- 58:27along? I, I would say both faith and
- 58:32fitness. So I, I definitely like taking
- 58:38the, the morning, taking time out of each day to, to get
- 58:41centered and to get my mind right.
- 58:44But then it's also important to, especially as I get older, to,
- 58:50to keep my body in shape as well.
- 58:54I feel like when I don't do those things, there have been
- 58:57times with the previous job has come or I was travelling quite a
- 59:01bit and it was hard to, to be disciplined about making time
- 59:08for either one of those things. And I, I, I feel like the day
- 59:14just doesn't, I feel like things are a little off when, when I
- 59:17don't make time for those things.
- 59:20How about recommendations for our listeners in terms of a
- 59:25resource that's been helpful to you?
- 59:27Maybe it's a book, a pack, a podcast, a network, a course,
- 59:32something that very helpful and sort of your personal or
- 59:36professional development that other folks might get benefit
- 59:39from. So other than this podcast, I, I
- 59:43would recommend there's a book by Brett Crozier called surf
- 59:49when you can and it's an excellent book on leadership,
- 59:52but it's also a master class in professionalism.
- 59:55You may recognize the name. He was a former Theodore
- 59:59Roosevelt Carrier CEO during COVID and ended up in in the
- 1:00:04news with some really tumultuous impacts on on his career and and
- 1:00:10he's just just an amazing individual to.
- 1:00:14To have served with, but also just to to read about.
- 1:00:19Bob, what's one thing you wish more people understood about the
- 1:00:22staffing industry? I, I think I had on this before,
- 1:00:29but I, I think investing in the right talent, if you don't
- 1:00:34invest in the right talent and we'll, I think a lot of people
- 1:00:37see it as a huge expense in the short term, but over the long
- 1:00:41term, I, I think it, it far outweighs the cost of mediocrity
- 1:00:48and turnover. And I, I think people get stuck
- 1:00:51in this mindset of, well, I, I want to hire people that don't
- 1:00:56have other options. So they'll stay with me for a
- 1:00:59long period of time. And maybe they don't have the,
- 1:01:02all the best skills, but at least they're not leaving me
- 1:01:06instead of going for somebody who might have other options and
- 1:01:09could leave for the, the next best thing.
- 1:01:12But but stays with you because you've made it a great place to
- 1:01:16work. And so I, I think it was Bill
- 1:01:20Gates that had said, take our 20 best people away and I'll tell
- 1:01:25you that Microsoft will become an unimportant company.
- 1:01:28I I found that to to be true in my Navy career and and in this
- 1:01:33career, I think you invest in the right people that that
- 1:01:37really makes or breaks your team.
- 1:01:40Yeah, I'm trying to remember who kind of gave me a similar piece
- 1:01:43of advice early on in my career because I had the same sort of
- 1:01:49thing. I, you know, would find some
- 1:01:50good folks. I would help to develop them,
- 1:01:52invest in their education, their learning, and then get nervous
- 1:01:57that, you know, they were going to leave.
- 1:01:59And, you know, all of that time invested in the great
- 1:02:01relationship that we have is is going to go to waste.
- 1:02:04And somebody kind of helped me reframe it and was like, you
- 1:02:07know, that should be like your proud Dad day.
- 1:02:10You know that you have helped that person move along in their
- 1:02:15personal development and their career development.
- 1:02:17And now this is a, a type of graduation.
- 1:02:20And it's, you know, if you, if you treated them well and you've
- 1:02:23been good to them, This isn't a time for sad reflection, It's
- 1:02:27happy reflection. It's, you know, hey, go spread
- 1:02:30your wings, you know, go to the, the next chapter of your life
- 1:02:34and stay in touch. Let me know how I can be
- 1:02:36helpful. And so it, you know, just sort
- 1:02:38of that, that abundance mindset I found was really helpful.
- 1:02:42Kind of flipping the script for me.
- 1:02:47Bob, I just got one more question for you.
- 1:02:49But before I ask it, I want to do 2 things.
- 1:02:52First of all, everyone listening today, go ahead and hit the
- 1:02:54follow button on your favorite podcast app.
- 1:02:57We've had a great interview here today with Bob Reddy who owns
- 1:03:00the Pride Staff Carlsbad, CA franchise location.
- 1:03:05I got to hear a lot about his meteoric rise through the Navy
- 1:03:09and, you know, his near death experience.
- 1:03:12I want you to continue to get more great stories like this.
- 1:03:15And Bob, I also want to let people know the best way to get
- 1:03:18in touch with you directly or to continue following your story.
- 1:03:22What would that be? Aside from LinkedIn, I can be
- 1:03:25reached at our public phone number, 760-438-0161.
- 1:03:32Great. And we'll put that information
- 1:03:33in the show notes. So, Bob, we've had a great
- 1:03:36conversation today. I hope you and I stay in touch.
- 1:03:38You know, a year from now, we're sitting down and you're
- 1:03:41celebrating something. What is that something?
- 1:03:43What's that one thing that you're excited about?
- 1:03:48So I'm happy to say and hopefully Katie don't kill me
- 1:03:52for this. My oldest daughter Katie is
- 1:03:54expecting in September and so I'm hoping to be celebrating my
- 1:03:59first grandchild's birthday. My wife, Sally Reddy just
- 1:04:05recently took a leap of faith and helping my business but also
- 1:04:10stepping out on her own. She has launched her own solo
- 1:04:13law practice and so I'm hoping to be able to celebrate her
- 1:04:17first year of successful practice.
- 1:04:21And then for for my team, I'm really hoping to be able to
- 1:04:23celebrate another Precedent Circle win.
- 1:04:26I love it. Bob Reddy from Pride Staff
- 1:04:30Carlsbad, I want to be the first to thank you for sharing both
- 1:04:32your time and your story with us today.
- 1:04:34I really appreciate it. Thank you so much for having me,
- 1:04:37Anthony. It's really been a pleasure.
- 1:04:39Folks, that's a wrap on another episode of the Inspired Stories
- 1:04:43podcast. Thanks for learning with us
- 1:04:44today.