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DA CREW PODCAST SEASON 2_ EPISODE _18_ HOST BLAQUE DIAMOND · DA CREW Podcast

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We do want you to enjoy the podcast tonight. I think it's worth mentioning
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Judging the person does not define who they are, and the difference between
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gossip and rumors is gossip is essentially talking about others and their personal affairs,
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which is sometimes true, and a rumor is information that is unverified, which
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means we don't know if it's true or not. Our perceptions and assumptions can
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be misleading, often obscuring the true essence of an individual. It is essential
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to approach others with empathy, understanding that each person carries a unique story,
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experiences, and struggles. Tonight, my guest is joining us in a three
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part mini series, the Miseducation of an educator, author, and self proclaimed
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ex mistress. Please welcome to Basic Black After Dark. Nicole S. Brown.
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Hello, Hey, Nicole, Hey, how are you? I'm doing
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fine and how are you. I'm good. I'm so happy and so grateful
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that you can join me tonight. The pleasure is mine and I'm very excited
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about this opportunity. Okay, Now, so we're gonna get this started tonight
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because you and I had spoken previously, and we've spoken to you know,
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a couple of times, you know, through LinkedIn, Facebook, even on
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the phone just the other day, and it was a pleasure to speak with
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you, and I'm just really excited to have you on the show. Now.
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Don't usually ask my guests their personal questions or you know, to get
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that personal, but I really want to know how you're doing well. I'm
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hanging in there. It gets tough sometimes, but you know, life is
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tough for we have to roll with the punches because you know, too much,
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who has given much is requard and some people, you know, may
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not have as many all to face that I did, but they may not
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have the reward that I'm gonna get. You know, everybody has their own
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walk. Well tonight, I want you to be able to give people a
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little bit of insight of who Nicold is because you've been through from what you're
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telling me, an awful lot, and it is the missage education of Nicole
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as Brown. You know, some people may not know who you really are,
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and I've gotten to know you, and I like what I've gotten to
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know, and I want people to see that as well. And this is
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why we're doing it in three parts, because I want them to get to
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know you the way I have gotten to know you. Now, you may
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have grown up with other people and been around other people, and they may
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know you differently. That's not here on there and it's not for me to
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judge. But I want people to get to know you, So give me
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a little bit of your backstory, you know, because I understand you have
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quite a story. The first time we spoke, you mentioned that you were
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in a good place and that things were spiraling out of control a little bit,
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that there were people in and out of your life, some good and
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some bad, and that you were the subject of someone else's gossip, and
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that some of these people you mentioned provided a false understanding or idea about you
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which changed the course of your life. So you want to give me a
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little bit of your backstory. Yeah, well, I guess I can say
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this misinformation started when I was in college, and it trickled down into my
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career and even you know, my personal life with family and church and just
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everywhere I went. And although they saw a nice, loving lady, they
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wanted to judge, you know, in what others said based on some things
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that they saw that they shouldn't have solved. Wow. So let me ask
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you what would make this interview a home run if you look back in three
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months, because we're gonna get deep into a lot of things between this show
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tonight, this podcast, and the next two podcasts. So we're gonna take
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it step by stard because I don't want anyone to miss a beat as far
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as who you are, and if they want to, you know, put
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something on the screen and ask questions, and we're here to ask it for
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you to be able to clear up things, because I think it's I think
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it's fair to allow you to just have your say and to be able to
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express what you want to express and to clear up any misconceptions about you.
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Hate Hay Shinnett. Thank you so much for joining us tonight. So yeah,
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if you can look back in three months, what would make this interview
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a home run for you? Oh? Wow? A home run for me
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would be more book sales, lots of views and more donations for the calls,
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the housing calls that I have and just more exposure as as an educator,
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author and Jill of all trades. So that would be a home run
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for me. Hey, Patrice, thank you for joining us tonight. So
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let's get right down to it. Why do you want people to know who
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is Nicole Esprow? Well, like I said, like you said earlier,
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there are misconceptions of who I am based on things that people should have should
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solved that they shouldn't have seen. And even though the true person or the
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true loving person was right in front of them. People chose to see whatever
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they wanted to sing. Native of Monroe, Louisiana. Uh, I have
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two kids. I'm a poly object certified teacher, certified in more than five
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subjects and have fifteen books out. So you were on a path to greatness.
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You're an author and as you mentioned, a subject certified teacher. Tell
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us about that. You know, as far as being poly subject certified,
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what is that now? I call it poly subject certified because I have more
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than three So I'm certified in chemistry, physics, general science, vocal music,
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reading, free K through third early childhood. And also I'm also a
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certified principal in four different states in Louisiana, Tennessee, Mississippi, and Missouri.
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Wow. Wow, but your home is there in Louisiana. Yes,
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I've been doing a lot of traveling. So have these rumors? So how
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have these rumors changed you? When did this start to change? Because I
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know you said that you had graduated and things started to happen. You mentioned
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that you were part of the church. Was these things happening in the church
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or was they happening, you know, just outside of the church. Well,
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things didn't really start happening. The attacks that church really didn't start happening
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until I became an author because a situation that I was in, I kept
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it secret and sat grade and the attacks. I didn't even know that I
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really was having direct attacks from somebody an individual until twenty fourteen. But it
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started in two thousand and four when I was student teaching. Because I've always
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been the type of person that was stayed on the grind and I always wanted
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to do what was best for me to make my life better. So I
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really didn't focus on you know who didn't really like me. I was nice
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for him anyway, and I kept doing what I needed to do to be
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able to succeed in life. So what do you Why do you feel that
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people were compelled to start rumors about you? You mentioned that you were author
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early on. Do you think that that was something that made people feel as
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though she's an author, I'm going to talk about him? Or was your
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book? Was your book about them? Or did they feel as though your
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book was about them? It wasn't the first book that I ever wrote.
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It was about education, but due to the fact that my career as an
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educator was attacked at at you know, at the beginning of my career.
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Really as an intern, I really didn't get a fair chance, even though
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it was evident that I was a good teacher and had potential to be one.
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So basically, I don't know if I could say this due to the
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nature of the show, I was attacked by somebody who really didn't like me
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or like people where I from, where I grew up. So we,
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like I had mentioned for those who are just joining us this, Nicole has
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agreed to do a mini series with me, and tonight we're doing The Miseducation
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of Nicole S. Brown and we're gonna be doing two more segments and we're
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going to go in deeper. So some things may seem a little vague tonight,
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but we want to take it step by step because I definitely want people
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to hear her story and to get to know who she is, and I
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don't want her to leave anything out at all. You know, I understand
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some people may have some questions and I'm not gonna say save it until then.
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You can ask the question tonight and she'll do her best to answer the
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questions. You know, looking back on your life, who or what makes
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you instant later? Uh, my kids and well, looking back, really
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who inspired me a lot was my grandmother, my dad, and my brother.
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That's well, my dad and my brother, well all both all three
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of them are deceased, but they really taught me a lot about life and
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how to use encouraged me to use my talents. And my grandma, Uh,
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she's the one that taught me certain things like with cooking and cannon.
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And you're from Louisiana. Grandma was in the kitchen, uh huh, and
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she always taught she was not she she would every weekend, especially when the
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when our parents had to work, she would get in that car and she
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would drive. She would she would drive and get all of her grandchildren and
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she would take us downtown to get ice cream at this place. So family,
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and some of them are no longer around, do you still feel as
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though you have supports with family? No? Those were the really the three
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and maybe a few more people in the family that were really supportive. Everybody
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else I really don't want to even be around anymore because of me having to
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leave a volatile situation. But yeah, my grandmother was always the one that
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told me or made sure and everybody kind of stayed on one according, you
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know, fought for each other, You had each other's back, per se.
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Uh. And my dad he instilled into me a lot of uh to
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stay you know, to be educated, and to do my best and keep
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a positive attitude. He would always say, your attitude determines your altitude,
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because you know, if you have a negative attitude, you know people are
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not gonna work to work with you. And you mentioned that you know these
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rumors had started. You also mentioned that you know it was surrounding some parts
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of the church. Let me ask you this, were some of the people
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who started those rumors? Family members? You know, I can tell me
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the names or what their relationship is, just the yeah, yeah yea.
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Because again I was the quiet choir member. I was just like being the
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quiet family member as well. Yeah, family member. Okay, what made
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what made you want to tell you stories on basic Black? Oh that's a
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hard question. I well, I uh, well, she she well,
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what made me want to tell my story is that I wanted to be able
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to really reiterate you know that you know, it's not a crime to uh
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to love all mankind and to to kind of clear by name. Okay,
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all right, Well, I'm glad that you're here, and I I said,
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We're gonna take a step by step to try to support you. What
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motivates you to get up in the morning. Are you drinking by relationships?
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Money? Success? People? What? Success? And success? To me,
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true success comes from God and my kids. You know, they you
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know, because a lot of people think money is that's well, you know,
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you know, causes us to have success. But you know, we
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can't take money with us. You know, we can leave no right now,
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money. We can't take money with us. We can't even take our
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family members with us. But we can leave a legacy for our family and
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not only our family, but the global society. Okay, all right.
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We had Alma who says that grandmas are the key and that she miss our
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grandmother rest in peace, and Rainbow says that she hears that, and she
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did mention something a few minutes ago about Grandma's as well. So with everything
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that you've been through, how was it effected? You're every day living?
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Well? Right now, I'm in a situation where I don't have anywhere to
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live. I'm in a hotel and depending up on donations and such to be
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able to stay here because at first I had a job, and then the
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situation happened again, you know, with the rumors and you know, conspiracy
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that I didn't have it, even though I was preparing to be for with
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the class because I rolled several pools to put on the bullets board and I
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was gonna share one of those today that I was gonna put on the bullet
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Has this affected your self esteem or your confidence? No, because I know
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that I believe in God and I believe you know, I have to be
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scriptural with this. When the enemy comes in like a flood, God was
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set a standard against the enemy. It's just attacks that that that that that's
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proven that you know, I'm moving on to higher heights. Let me ask
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you, Nicole, are you depressed? Do you feel depressed? Sometimes I
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feel down, but everybody it does, you know, But I wouldn't consider
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myself depressed. You had mentioned you had written some poetry, and that's gonna
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be some part about next week as well. But we're gonna do We're gonna
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take a break, and in that break, you are going to recite one
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of your poems. Yeah, okay, And I've heard a couple of your
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poems and I saw are some titles of some of your books, and well,
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of course we're gonna be jumping into that as well. But we're gonna
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take a short break. But during that break, we're gonna hear a poem
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from the Colees Brown. And this is something that you've written in my correct
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Yes, it was supposed to be for my bulletin board. But the bulletin
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board you're talking about at school? Yes, quick question, what grade were
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you teaching? I was supposed to be teaching six, No. Seventh and
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the eighth grade science. Oh well, science one of my favorite subjects.
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But it was two of my favorite grades. So you're gonna go into this
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break, and we're gonna have you stay there so you can well, as
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a matter of fact, you can do your poem right now while we still
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like okay, So I'm gonna sit back and I'm gonna enjoy this poem.
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Ladies and gentlemen, this is put your mind in motion. Like the strong
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waves and seas and oceans. You need to put your mind then motion.
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Don't depend on others to blow your wind. True learning or earning of anything
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comes from within. You must be self driven and have your own unique discipline
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in order to pass all tests and win, put your mind in motion and
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every life's detail and notion. Nothing in this life really has a magic spell
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or potion. Remember to really excel at anything, especially learning, you must
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put your mind to sell into the sea of knowledge, whether or not you
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attend college. Put your mind in motion, rub knowledge in your cerebral cortex
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like low shit. That's that piece. Okay, So is there more to
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this piece? Thank you so much for that piece. Is there more to
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this piece? Uh? Uh? Because no, because I just wrote it
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maybe a couple of weeks ago to put on a bullets and board, so
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I didn't want it to be too long. Okay, So have you written
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other Well, you know what we're going to get into that, Yeah,
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the mini series two. But you see, I have a lot of questions
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for you before because I've seen some of the titles of your books, and
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I'm not gonna make that a smaller tonight. But you know, when this
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shows over, I hope everybody starts to go online and just start looking them
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up and grabbing some copies so they'll come back and they'll be able to ask
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you some questions. But you had mentioned that you're staying in the hotel right
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now, how were you coping with this on? And you're there not by
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yourself, you're with your children, yes, and how are they coping with
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this? And how are you coping with just just being it? Because I
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know it's a shift, it's a change. It's a better change because although
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we were in the house, we weren't you know, we weren't being treated
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right, So it was it's a better uh change. It's a bet.
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It's a peaceful we have you know, uh we're dealing with, you know,
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not having anywhere to cook or anything. But it's better than what it
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was because I was in a situation where I was with my family and we
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were being mistreated. And I'm just trying to say that in a kind way.
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When the Cold has a go fund me page, and if you would
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like to send some blessing the codes way you can do so at go fund
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dot me, bowt slash eight one E as an Eric, the number four,
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A isn't Apple, the number five, the number eight and E as
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an Eric. Again. She has a go fund me. It's at go
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fund dot me, bowt slash the number eight, the number one, he
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isn't Eric, the number four A isn't Apple, the number five, the
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number eight, and isn't Eric again, So the information will be floating throughout.
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So I'm hoping that you can help support Nicole so we can at least
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try to get her to a comfortable place for her and her children. What
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have you learned about yourself recently? Well, then I'm stronger than I thought
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I was because I've been through a lot, and you know, it was
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times that I did cry, and then sometimes I was I really wasn't able
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to, and uh, there was there was many opportunities to write about and
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reflect about some of the things that I was going through, and a lot
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of poems that I wrote over the over the past five months that I was
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going through all the things that I was going through, and I had gone
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through more than that, But it's it was really trying then that I was
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writing about God. And you know, I even wrote a poem about how
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I wrote sung my first solo and then my grandmother gave me a Jesus pen
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and said that I represent represented Jesus, and I can only I can always
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remember that my my Grandmoa and my dad didn't really get along, but they
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did get they they didn't agree on much, but they did agree on me
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singing the song at church when I was fourteen. Well, Alma says that
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this is only a test about God, about Jesus, about wherever, and
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whatever your heart contents, let no man put you under at all. Alma
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is also saying that it will be your testimony. And I agree with you,
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Alma, I honestly do. It will be your testimony. What's one
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of the things that you think most people get wrong about you? A lot
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of people think that I'm an invalid and belligerent, and I'm not. And
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it's evident that I'm not belligerent. And it's really evident that I'm not an
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invalid either, because I've written four books about education. And you hold several
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degrees. Yes, you gotta be very smart to be having one in chemistry,
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because I look, I couldn't. I could barely scramble eggs. Yeah,
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and talk about having a degree. Yeah, I have a BS in
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chemistry, a Master of Education and reading education, and I have an EDS
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and education leadership and I was recently I had to take off and I probably
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have to reapply, but I did get accepted once to a doctoral program in
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educational leadership. So what seems to be the hold up with you being able
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to get a job in the educational feel is it? Are the rumors what's
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actually causing Yeah, it's the rumors and you know, stuff that they saw
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that they shouldn't have seen, so instead right in your area. Then have
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you ever thought about bringing these individuals that start in these rumors which could be
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considered slander if you have that type of proof. Now, I'm not a
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lawyer. I'm not trying to tell you which direction to go, but I
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know that that's just a question on my mind. Have you ever thought about
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going in that direction? I did, but it kind of goes deeper than
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then, you know, it kind of goes deeper. Yeah, to the
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point, well, to the core of all of that. We're gonna definitely
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get to the core of all of that, because I definitely want you know,
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I know the story of of what you're telling me and what i've I've
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I've read from what you sent me and and me doing my own little research,
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you know, and it just blows me away. You know, everything
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that that you're you had told me that I've read that I again research and
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I just shake my head. You know, often when you see yourself in
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five years. I really see myself as a best selling author, a stay
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at home mom, and working on a lot of crafts that I had played
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to work on, like dealing with creativity, like taking more classes for cooking,
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and working on the doctoral programs and stuff like that. And just wanted
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to travel the world where my books have gone so far, because I really
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haven't gone too many places beyond you know, beyond the South region a little
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bit, maybe into the Midwest a little bit. But I really want to
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be able to travel to where my books have gone, because they're all over
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the world. Wow, fleeting. Again, We're gonna talk more about and
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being an author, But there's a question that you want to ask you.
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You talk heavy on education. I hear him cracking up in the back.
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You talk heavy on education, but you also talk about being an author.
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If you had to give one of those two up, which one would it
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be? Well, I don't think I would want to give up being an
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author. Okay, Okay, So we're gonna talk more about that in a
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few weeks. If you have the attention of the whole world for five minutes,
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what would you say to them, Oh, spread love, I'm hoping
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that the whole world is tonight. I'm hoping the whole world and sitting here
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listening to your story tonight. But what would you say to them? Well,
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what would you say to the listeners? Now? What I would say?
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What I would always tell my kids, don't be a magnet or negativity,
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spread love and reach out to somebody who needs help. Okay, all
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right, Now, if you couldn't leave a mark on the world that preceded
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you, what would it be. I would want people to know that I'm
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a lover of all mankind, that I love everybody. You know, whether
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they love me back or did or give me respect or that that's just how
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ward up. I would want people to know that I love everybody. Okay,
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okay, So is there anything else that we should know about them?
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Well, I kind of told you a little bit, a little bit about
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the educator. Oh yeah. I like the right learning songs. I like
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to write learning songs like the performing in the classroom, and like to teach
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not rigid. I like to use different methods and try to pull creativity out
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about the kids in the class. And I try not to just teach the
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subject, but I try to teach life as well. When we talk about
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the mis education of Nicole S. Brown, what part is the miss Like
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I said, well, they're missing that capable of doing what others say that
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I'm not capable of and that I don't have that I do have a loving
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heart toward all people, and that I'm willing. I'm really uh, like
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I said, qualified to do things in a classroom and some people don't feel
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that way. Also, I'm kind of trying to not tell it all,
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but okay, that's okay, you can hold that back because I'm hoping that
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they want to come in and listen to the rest of the story. You
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know, there's many different ways for an individual such as yourself to educate people.
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You don't always have to be in the school system. You can do
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tuning, you know. You know, many people want tutoring for their children,
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you know, and you can set your prices, you know, to
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do tutoring. And because you're an author and you have this educational background,
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you may want to decide to put something into those books and start telling those
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books on the educational side, so that may be able to generate, you
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know, something for you as well. You know, I'm so sorry that
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you're going through what you're going through. Really, what I want to do
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after I kind of raise my kids and travel the world and do things with
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my books, is that I want to get some kids that people don't people
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kind of push up by on the wayside, because I was kind of pushed
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by the wayside too as an adult that have gone through rough times, gone
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through situations with abuse or whatever, and have learned to challenge channel their talents
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in the wrong way to be able to teach them how to channel their talents
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in a positive way. So everybody, do you see what I say when
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I say the miseducation of Nicoles Brown is just a lot more to it than
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what meets the eye. But sadly we run out of time for tonight.
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It has been interesting talking with you, and I thank you so much for
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giving us some insight into Nicole S. Brown. And thanks to the listeners
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and viewers for tuning in to another great episode of Basic Black after Dark.
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Gossip is one way we judge others, which isn't our job. God oversees
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judging people, not us. Gossip only ends up creating greed, hate or
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envy. Remember, beneath the surface, we all harbor complexities, dreams,
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and vulnerabilities like kindness and compassion. God our interactions. I'll see you next
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week on March eight for our bonus show. We have a bonus show.
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Like I said, this is March Madness. We have a bonus show with
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Youth Writers Founder Youth Writers, Rock founder Pat Johnson Harris and her amazing published.
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That's right, publish youth Authors. But don't forget to tune in on
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March fifteenth for part two of our mini series as we dive a little deeper
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into the miseducation of Nicole S. Brown as the author. After eight,
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after Dark, turn off the lake light, a candle, tonight, a
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man, a mad Let's take a shower shower together,