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S2 #5 Scallops, Sorrow, and Significant Others · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I almost famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with i R Radio. What's up everybody. I'm Ben, I'm Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: and we have a spectacular podcast for today after a
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  Speaker 1: very dramatic week of Bachelor in Paradise and one of
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  Speaker 1: the lead front one the most Desirable Woman in Paradise.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, Kristen is on the line. Kristeny out there,
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  Speaker 1: I am out here, Ben, Helloi, how you doing scalp fingers?
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  Speaker 1: I know, right? Oh my goodness, gracious, I know. I'm
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  Speaker 1: telling you, girl, I'm trying to make my transition right
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  Speaker 1: now from scalop fingers into something like a little sexier,
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  Speaker 1: maybe like scallop girl, or personally this week I heard
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  Speaker 1: scallet fingers so many times. I actually don't Maybe you
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  Speaker 1: could explain it to me, Christen. I don't get the
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  Speaker 1: intrigue of it, or even the humor behind it. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of funny that at one point you ate scalps,
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  Speaker 1: but everybody scalop right right. No, my thoughts exactly. I
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  Speaker 1: think you probably saw that last week. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I don't get it. I felt like I was asley
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  Speaker 1: on her podcast. Thank you, thank you for that shout out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah girl, what is it understand? Okay, I have a theory. Um, like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not big on following I guess social etiquette or
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  Speaker 1: like social norms. I kind of just beat to my
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  Speaker 1: own drum. So I think that was maybe funny. But
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  Speaker 1: I also my stronger theory is that everyone was really
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  Speaker 1: really hot. Granted we were recording like a little later
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  Speaker 1: into the summer than they normally do, and so everyone
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  Speaker 1: was really hot and getting kind of bored and so crazy.
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  Speaker 1: So that's how I came up with the term scal fingers.
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  Speaker 1: And we all know how they came up with the term,
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  Speaker 1: which is like you ate leftovers in the back of
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  Speaker 1: our neuver or something. Um, can I tell you how
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  Speaker 1: many times I have eaten leftovers in the car in
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  Speaker 1: or inappropriate places. My sister always gets mad at me
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  Speaker 1: for this, and I think this is just what happened
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  Speaker 1: with you. Yeah, this is exactly what happened. It's kind
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  Speaker 1: of like the whole like I'm gonna do me. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not really worried about. I mean, I guess I kind
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  Speaker 1: of get it now. Anytime you eat shellfish that's a
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  Speaker 1: little bit older in the back of a car, it
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  Speaker 1: can't be the most advertising experience for the people around you.
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  Speaker 1: So with that, Kristen, you're in the wrong for eating
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  Speaker 1: shellfish that was a little bit older in the back
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  Speaker 1: of car. But other than that, you know what, let's
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  Speaker 1: put scalt fingers behind us. I don't ask. I mean
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  Speaker 1: maybe I should like issue a public apology, though it
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  Speaker 1: would be like a personal the plane. Have you ever
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  Speaker 1: had the person on the plane that sits next to
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  Speaker 1: you and decides to get like Chinese or me at
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  Speaker 1: the airport and then that is me. I get tuna
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  Speaker 1: sandwiches every time. Yeah. I just tweeted that well yesterday
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  Speaker 1: because he was like, oh my gosh, I'm eating my
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  Speaker 1: hogi on the plane, and I'm like, I just off
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  Speaker 1: my plane and I took my Asian food and pulled
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  Speaker 1: it out and I got some side eyes. Yes, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: of course you did. So that that is just rude.
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  Speaker 1: It's not okay for anybody you have food emvy well, no,
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  Speaker 1: because you smell it you're in a close quarters. But okay,
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  Speaker 1: so you get the words the name scallet fingers. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: do you feel like after watching this back now scallet
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  Speaker 1: fingers behind us, do you think people were being mean
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  Speaker 1: to you? Was it funny. Did you feel bullied? How
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  Speaker 1: how did you feel about watching this bag? Yeah? Yeah, Um,
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  Speaker 1: well when I watched my episode, So I didn't watched
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  Speaker 1: the episode Monday when I came in. Um, I had
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  Speaker 1: watched a cree cut the week before, and it was
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  Speaker 1: extremely overwhelming because at the time, I still had no
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  Speaker 1: idea that everyone had been talking about me, and so
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  Speaker 1: people who I was just kind of like happy, go
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  Speaker 1: lucky with the rest of the time, I didn't know
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  Speaker 1: that they had been that. It was that kind of situation.
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  Speaker 1: I could kind of feel it like when you walk
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  Speaker 1: into a room and you you've probably had that feeling.
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  Speaker 1: You're like, oh, wow, everyone was just talking about me,
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  Speaker 1: and I get that, Yeah, I don't belong. I'm coming
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  Speaker 1: in late to their click. It's kind of rough like
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  Speaker 1: that kind of thing. Um. So I definitely had those
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  Speaker 1: feelings a lot, but I just didn't really know. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know to the degree of like what it was.
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  Speaker 1: So when I watched the pre cut episode, I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I have like a lot of anxiety for a couple
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  Speaker 1: of days because I'm thinking, I have no idea how
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  Speaker 1: people are going to first sieve it, like they're giving
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  Speaker 1: America all this language to use against me, like I
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  Speaker 1: probably need to lead on my social media. I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, well, you know, watching it from my perspective,
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  Speaker 1: I thought you you weren't necessarily bullied. I just don't
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  Speaker 1: think people were kind. I don't think they were they
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  Speaker 1: understood exactly how this could affect you watching it back,
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  Speaker 1: because you do feel and I guess I want to
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  Speaker 1: ask at Actually, you've been a part of Paradise a
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  Speaker 1: few times. Can you relate with Christen and with the
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  Speaker 1: idea that when you walk into Para I you don't
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  Speaker 1: always feel like you belong or did you always feel like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm jumping righting into this, I'm accepted and I'm wanted here.
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  Speaker 1: I always felt accepted because I got further in the process,
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  Speaker 1: so I made deeper friendships I think. But that was
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  Speaker 1: my question for you, Kristen. Yeah, is because you were
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  Speaker 1: limited so early on in next season, did you feel
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  Speaker 1: about because of that? Yeah, definitely, So I think that
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  Speaker 1: was like it was easier. It was it made me
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  Speaker 1: like an easier Um. I'm not trying to say target,
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  Speaker 1: but for that reason, I was, you know, I went home.
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  Speaker 1: When did I go home? I went home the last
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  Speaker 1: day we were in the mansion. So for that reason,
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  Speaker 1: they were like stronger friendships that had formed. And also
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  Speaker 1: I was walking into a group that was all original cats,
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  Speaker 1: So while they all had been there going through everything,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I had not been blown out yet,
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  Speaker 1: so they kind of like had the a store no more.
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  Speaker 1: I think, Um, and you know, I have to I
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  Speaker 1: want to say this, Like when Alexis told the story,
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  Speaker 1: she had no idea what was going to get taken
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  Speaker 1: to the extent that it was. So she told me,
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  Speaker 1: She's like, I did not mean it in a mean
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  Speaker 1: spirited way at all, Like I was just telling a story.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, it didn't seem like when Alexis told us
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  Speaker 1: she was trying to pick on you at all. It's
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  Speaker 1: just it was kind of funny. You know, we'll share
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  Speaker 1: a story. It's what I know about this person. I
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  Speaker 1: get it happened all the time. But there was one
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  Speaker 1: person in Bachelor in Paradise said I felt kind of
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  Speaker 1: cross the line with you. One person that kind of
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  Speaker 1: kept us on our toes and we've talked about on
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  Speaker 1: the podcast before, and that's Jasmine. Um. Two questions for you. One,
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  Speaker 1: did you feel like Jasmine was a bully, and then
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  Speaker 1: the reverse that what's your relationship with with like, what's
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  Speaker 1: your relationship like with her? Now? Yeah? Um, good questions.
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  Speaker 1: So the situation, I don't want to use the term bully.
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  Speaker 1: I want to say that it was tough because I
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  Speaker 1: um had tried talking to her. I just I kind
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  Speaker 1: of felt like I wasn't getting like the same kind
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  Speaker 1: of treatment as like Christina gave zlow kind of thing. Um.
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  Speaker 1: I tried talking to her multiple times in Paradise, and
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  Speaker 1: I thought that we were okay. So things seem to like, um,
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  Speaker 1: calm down and everyone was like more comfortable together and
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  Speaker 1: everything else. And then whenever the episodes were coming around
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  Speaker 1: and I was about to come onto the show, she
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  Speaker 1: was like saying like she'd like put snake watch out
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  Speaker 1: for the snake, get ready for the snake, and stuff
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  Speaker 1: all over her uh social media, which for me was
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  Speaker 1: so hard because I've tried so many times, even after
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  Speaker 1: the show, calling and reaching out to her, like to
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  Speaker 1: just to make sure she knew like I never wanted
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  Speaker 1: to hurt and betray you in my decision. Like that's
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  Speaker 1: a very hard situation to come in with the date
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  Speaker 1: card and already be like so out of your element
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  Speaker 1: having to choose a guy to take on a date. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and so she so so doing that. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: I was pretty like I guess hurt by that because
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, gosh, you're you're really just going out of
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  Speaker 1: your way to try to destroy me, Like is this
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  Speaker 1: you didn't say enough mean things on the show, Like
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  Speaker 1: now you're trying to turn everybody against me, and that's tough. Um.
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  Speaker 1: So I would say, like, I don't want to use
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  Speaker 1: the trim bully. I just want to say like, um,
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  Speaker 1: she just she was a rude. I think it does.
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  Speaker 1: It says something. But even after this whole thing goes
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  Speaker 1: down and you think, you know, there you guys have
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  Speaker 1: mended your your issues, then she goes out in social media.
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  Speaker 1: Does I don't think it's right. I don't. I don't think.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think especially people within the franchise, I don't
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  Speaker 1: think it's right to UM to any level in social
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  Speaker 1: media kind of bully people because you get it so
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  Speaker 1: much from the everybodeo. Yeah, you need you need your click,
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  Speaker 1: you need your your your friends around you, even if
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  Speaker 1: you are maybe fond of them. I feel like I
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  Speaker 1: have to take um. I don't want to take Jasmine
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  Speaker 1: side right now, but just looking from a different perspective,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like sometimes times there's a lot of the
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  Speaker 1: storyline missing on Paradise, and maybe she was dealing with
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  Speaker 1: some of that frustration. I don't know how to excuse
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  Speaker 1: what she said about Christen being a virgin. Okay, but
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  Speaker 1: that's what I really want. I want to talk to
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  Speaker 1: you about this and what happened on the show. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I want you talk about the virgin shaming that Jasmine
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  Speaker 1: did with you, because obviously I feel like I'm in
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  Speaker 1: your shoes and I think it's just the most ridiculous
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  Speaker 1: thing we talked about on last week's podcast, to just
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  Speaker 1: be like, oh, who would ever want to go on
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  Speaker 1: a date with her? Like? What fun is a virgin?
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  Speaker 1: Peanut Clada? Right? How does that cut you? Um? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So I think that I am, like, I'm very confident
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  Speaker 1: in that decision because I'm like, I'm not a sexual
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  Speaker 1: you know you can relate to that. Oh my gosh. Yes.
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  Speaker 1: I remember getting off my show the Christmas season and
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  Speaker 1: people were like very confused because like, oh I dressed
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  Speaker 1: like that or I like kiss like that, and it's like, well,
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  Speaker 1: you can't be a virgin do that. So I was
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  Speaker 1: getting like virgin shamed that way, like where you couldn't
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  Speaker 1: be as quote sexy virgin as once Ashley Simpson's kind
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  Speaker 1: of stuff with you couldn't be a sexy virgin. People
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  Speaker 1: want to put you in a box your virgin you're
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  Speaker 1: a nun. So that's not the case. Um, but I think, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I know that was honestly the virginine a klata thing
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  Speaker 1: to me was it was kind of funny because I
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  Speaker 1: think if you're if you're confident enough in your own decision,
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of funny. I mean there's part of it
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  Speaker 1: that kind of cut because it's like, why are you
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  Speaker 1: telling all these men like like you don't want that,
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  Speaker 1: Like that's that's just as bad as flush shaming. That's horrible,
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  Speaker 1: that's true. And did you get frustrated by just the
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  Speaker 1: fact that the show wanted to make you a storyline
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  Speaker 1: with you like they had you announced that to everyone? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Did you talk about it in casting? Because I talked
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  Speaker 1: about in casting. Yeah, you probably had the same situation
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  Speaker 1: as me, where like did they ask you about it? Um?
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  Speaker 1: I was pretty I was open about it and casting
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  Speaker 1: because they're like, oh, you know, what's your relationship status?
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, it'll be interesting if I dropped
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  Speaker 1: this bomb on them. Yeah yeah, just watch their faces. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's actually funny, Elan. It's like, I'm so committed to
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  Speaker 1: you and ask oh my god, the things to do. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: He's like, I wanted you a spin off show with
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  Speaker 1: you guys. I'm like, yeah, let's do it. Let's call
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  Speaker 1: the Cherry Race. Oh my guys. Yeah. Alan's like, if
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  Speaker 1: I am not the first phone call you make once
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  Speaker 1: that day happens. Yeah. By the way, everybody out there,
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  Speaker 1: Alan is the executive producer on Bachelor in Paradise, The Bachelor,
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  Speaker 1: and The Bachelor, So Alan has a lot of power.
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  Speaker 1: And he's also I think a really good friend to
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  Speaker 1: Kristen and Ashley and myself. Um, so that's what they're
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  Speaker 1: talking about right now. He's our old confident. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking at it from my perspective. And I know Becca,
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  Speaker 1: and I know Ashley and christ and I don't know you,
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  Speaker 1: but you know I would consider us friends now that
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  Speaker 1: you came onto our podcast. So hello, new friend. And
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  Speaker 1: I know Beckan actually personally, and I know there are
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  Speaker 1: two of the classiest, the most beautiful and the most
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  Speaker 1: beautiful hearted people that I know, and when I when
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  Speaker 1: I talked to talk to them about their decision to
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  Speaker 1: be virgins, it's a conscious decision, right, They've thought through it.
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  Speaker 1: It's it's where they're at in life, and it's the
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  Speaker 1: decision they've made. UM And I respect that completely and
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  Speaker 1: I think people should. I think the idea of virgin
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  Speaker 1: shaming is odd and weird, and I don't think no
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  Speaker 1: matter what UM was done behind the scenes during this,
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  Speaker 1: there was there was nothing that was appropriate for for
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  Speaker 1: Jasmine to say anything about you being a virgin on camera.
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  Speaker 1: My question, though, this is a little personal. We've asked
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  Speaker 1: actually the same thing, UM and share what you want.
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  Speaker 1: Where does that decision come from for you? Yeah? I
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  Speaker 1: know that's a really good question. Um. So for me,
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  Speaker 1: it's a space based based decision. Um. For me, it's
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  Speaker 1: like more about it's just something that I want to
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  Speaker 1: share that special when I meet the right person that
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  Speaker 1: it's not it is a space based face decision. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: uh um. Yeah, So it's a faith based decision for
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  Speaker 1: me and just like a matter of wanting to share
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  Speaker 1: that with the like you know, when I meet the
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  Speaker 1: right person, the person I'm gonna be with forever, etcetera. Um,
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  Speaker 1: And it's also been, like I kind of explained to
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  Speaker 1: one of the guys on the show, like it's been
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  Speaker 1: a really logical decision for me, Like it haven't been
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  Speaker 1: that difficult because everyone who I've started to like progress
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  Speaker 1: with in a relationship, it's they've been the've been like
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  Speaker 1: just um, a total f boy for lack of a
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  Speaker 1: better word. So it's kind of like, why would I
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  Speaker 1: do this, Like, why would I do this right now
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  Speaker 1: with you so you can go do this with someone
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  Speaker 1: else tomorrow kind of thing. Yeah, I mean you picked
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  Speaker 1: an interesting I've said the same thing actually that you
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  Speaker 1: picked an interesting path to date people. If if you're
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  Speaker 1: not looking for that, hey, there are some great guys
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  Speaker 1: out there. I know I'm looking for the yeah, the
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  Speaker 1: diamond and the rough Yeah. And then so you and
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  Speaker 1: actually uh as well are incredible role models. I respect
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  Speaker 1: your decision a ton. I think, Um, it's incredible to
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  Speaker 1: have uh, just the wisdom and the maturity and the
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  Speaker 1: confidence to stand up and say this is what I'm
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  Speaker 1: to do, um for the right reasons. And so I've
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  Speaker 1: told actually this before, I'll tell you this now, keep
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  Speaker 1: doing you, keep being confident in your decision. Um, thank
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  Speaker 1: you for coming on our podcast today. We appreciate it,
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  Speaker 1: and we look forward to the rest of the season
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  Speaker 1: of Bachelor in Paradise. Yeah, don't we wish all guys
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  Speaker 1: were more like than Oh, oh my gosh, can he
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  Speaker 1: just like teach a class for all the guys even
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  Speaker 1: in the franchise? Well, you know before you go for
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  Speaker 1: everyone listening, I don't remember what guy you're with right,
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Kristen, we have talked about your guys
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  Speaker 1: right now, and I had to talk about like, are
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  Speaker 1: you really attracted to these suckers that you're making out with? No? Yes,
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  Speaker 1: wait a little bit. Okay, there's a point where I mean,
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  Speaker 1: these guys are there. They really are incredible guys. Let
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  Speaker 1: me just say that first. I'm not like romantically interested
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  Speaker 1: in any of them. And there's a point in time
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  Speaker 1: where they just keep stealing me one after another, and
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  Speaker 1: like Blake comes to steal me and I think they
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  Speaker 1: showed this and he's like, he's like, can I whisk
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  Speaker 1: you away or whatever? I don't know if I'm line,
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, dude, honestly, like I can't talk to
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  Speaker 1: anyone else until I get food. I'm starving, and so
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  Speaker 1: I go the way to my heart is through my stomach.
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  Speaker 1: So he brings me a plate of scallops with no fork,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, real fit of course no. Then there's
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  Speaker 1: another point in time where the tickle Monster, who is
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  Speaker 1: actually doctor, comes and he's like, oh, can I steal you? Wait?
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  Speaker 1: And at this point it was just getting funny because
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  Speaker 1: they just keep like, I like yo yoing me around
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  Speaker 1: and he comes over and he like goes in for
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  Speaker 1: the kiss, and and they even show this and I'm like, uh, okay,
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  Speaker 1: you must have wanted to press your teeth after all
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  Speaker 1: that I did. Yeah, they all made out with each other.
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  Speaker 1: Basically that's a lot. I mean, okay, I was going
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  Speaker 1: to say goodbye, but now I'm I'm hooked. I got
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  Speaker 1: to ask about this, Um, how long in this? How
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  Speaker 1: long in between makeout sessions? We're typical for you, like
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  Speaker 1: are you talking minutes? Seconds? I mean, are you from
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  Speaker 1: one to the next? How is this? Like? Well, it's
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  Speaker 1: probably kind of similar to your little bachelor runs. But
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  Speaker 1: I'm not that I haven't I haven't participated the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: This is not to call you out. I'm just wondering. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I know, I'm playing with you. Um, I would say minute, yep, minute.
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  Speaker 1: It was the night christ and I want to talk
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  Speaker 1: to you about beauty before you leave. How do you
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  Speaker 1: feel about looking at your hair the other night? Oh
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  Speaker 1: my gosh, I am. I'm mortified. That's probably the most
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: embarrassing part of the show. I don't think people realize, like,
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: we don't have mirrors. It's two hundred degrees, it's six
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: in the morning, we haven't slept in weeks. Yes, I
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: actually never used a hot well in Paradise. I just
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: you know, slick it back countytail or, just let the
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: humidity do its thing. Also, you have fantastic hair girl.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: My humidity average red block. Yeah, well it was Q
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: in Island. Also, did you not bring um waterproof mascara? Yeah?
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: I did not. Um. Terrible decision. Now it's funny decision.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Terrible decision. And I knew the whole time. I was like,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: this is gonna hurt me. I'm gonna have those raccoon
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: gifts like this is that. You know. If there's one
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: thing I've learned from this process is the more relatable
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: you can be, the better and that was very relatable.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Oh girls, thank you. I gotta share a story real quick. Um,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: I'm learning a lot, And the more and more time
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: I spent with Ashley, the more and more I learned
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: about females and whatever they do have it. Yeah. So
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I'm with Ashley this last week in Tahoe and I
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: show up and her hair is about it twice as long.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Actually tell me if I'm embarrassing you, and you just
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: tell me when to stop if this isn't something I
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: should be sharing on air. Um, but her hair is
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: twice as long as it was the week previous, and
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: I was so confused on how that happens. And I
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: really had no clue that you could add something to
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: make your hair fuller, longer, thicker, shiny or whatever it was.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: But all of a sudden actually had hair down to
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: her butt. Wait, then, you're telling you that you didn't
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: feel any extensions when you're the bachelor, when you like
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: put your hand behind a girl's head and kiss her like,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: girls are terrified that guys are going to feel their
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: extensions in the back of their head. I actually did
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: walk in when I woke up the girls one morning
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: on the show. I walked in there is a I
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: think it was Joe Joe's extensions on the table next
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: to her bed, and she blame it on somebody else.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: So I have learned a little bit about this UM,
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: but not a ton, And so I'm constantly amazed at
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: the things that you have to go through. It is
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: incredible to me. And then you have to look at
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: waterproof mascare I'd say, just rocket girl, keep looking like
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: a raccoon. It's a good look on you, hey thigs
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: then yeah, yeah, So I agree. It's it's very stressful.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: And that's why like whenever it's like, oh, you want
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: to do the show, it's like girls like kicking the
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: high gear, like, well, now I have to get these
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: dresses and waterproof master era. It's too much to keep
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: track of. We could do an entire segment on just
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: the amount of money that it takes to get ready
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: for the No, it's it's as nine. We could do
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: a whole segment on that. UM. Also, I gotta give
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I gotta give you a shout out. Actually, I just
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: like browsed through your Twitter because I had not UM,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: I had not really like caught up on some of
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: your tweets, and I love that you were like, I'm
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: happy to be the pioneer for the virgins. And it's
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: a great point because I think I was only the
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: second one because I can never did paradise right right, Yeah,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: it's just now, it's a thing, it's an obligation. I
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: wonder who will take that title next season past the torch.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: But hey, we're running a time, Kristen, So again, thank
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: you for joining our podcast. Thank you, guy you, thank you.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: I think we could really be friends in real life. Girl,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: I completely agree. Awesome, m yours all right? See Kristina,
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  Speaker 1: we are walking into uh, one of our favorite segments
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: that we've ever came up with on this podcast. We
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: kind of dropped the awkward actually, which I wish you
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: would go back to at some point, I gotta tweet
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: about people missing that today. The segment that we're going
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: into today the famous who the heck are you? And
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: we have Blake E in studio, Blake Blake, Hey, Blake. Um,
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: are we going to get through this interview without talking
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: about Will Boom? Uh? Are you gonna ask a million
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: questions about Lucas and edit it so that that's all
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: that you see? Um? No, So what happened when he
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: went to Paradise where they like, explain your story about
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: how Will Boom ruined your entire experience on Rachel season?
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Did they say something like that, Yeah, every individual person
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: was like, why do you hate Lucas so much? I'm like, yay,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: let me talk about it individually to every person again. Great. Cool.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: So you're like, you're telling me that you never once
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: brought this up on your own He never wants talked
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: about Lucas just on your own accord, never unless it
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: was like it was never unprompted. Everybody would ask like,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: why don't you like Lucas? And I'm like, well, it's
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: kind of hard to summarize. There's it's a complicated history.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Did you guys have like some setup plan because people
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: have conserious conspiracy theories about you and him, saying that
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: you guys knew each other you were on another show together.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: Did you plan on having this big blowout once you're
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: both cast it on the Bachelorette? Uh No, I was not.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: The fight was not planned. That was me really angry
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: in the moment. Okay, I think we should give everyone
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: a bit of a refresher on who Blake is and
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: what we're talking about with this fight with wa Boom.
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: So weeks ago, Ashley and Ben did a dramatic recreation
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: of your fight, and I think we'd like for you
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: to hear it. Oh, I heard it. Let's let's let
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: everyone here it again. Why am I here? You're here
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: to be on blank TV? And why is that because
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: you want to be a comedian. You're a washed up joke.
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I can't help but feel that you weren't here and
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I would have to be a real shot at and
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: I would have a real shot at getting too Rachel.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: But because you were big, is he being what booming
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: and making a joke out of this experience. I'm gonna
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: go home. You win. Lucas, whoa boom. The thing is,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: it's like not about winning. It's about the world. Brother,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: It's about the world, and you have no idea what
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: the world needs. I have. By the time, this is
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: my favorite part. You're the wao boom clown and I'm
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: the nice gentleman. You know. Go back to your protein shakes,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: go back to your steroids. I'm just gonna let you
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: speak for yourself. I know what funny is walka boom
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: pie in your face, walka walker fart joke. If someone said,
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: how would you summarize Lucas in one word? And I
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: feel like this is a compliment to Lucas, I would say,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: whoa boom? Okay, let's stop here. So this is what
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: we got, alright, alright trying Did you know you're creating
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: the finest television when you did that? I did not
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: know that. By the way, kudos to Ben. That was
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: probably the best wah boom of all the wo I mean, okay, Bake.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: There's a lot to unpack there. I need to know,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: like at that point in time, were you jabbing at Lucas?
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Were you complimenting him? I'm still confused on that argument
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: that the argument does make no sense to me. Basically,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: we get into an argument and I kind of did
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: like a mic drop, and they're like no, like keep going.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: So the fight continued and it escalated, and I was
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: trying to mock him, and I was basically saying that,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: like like Lucas's style of humor is like pull my
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: finger will be cushioned, pie in the face, like like
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: you're like a You're like the guy that blows up
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: the balloons at the kid's birthday party. Yeah, can you
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about your experience with him
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: on the other reality show? What was it called? How
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: did you Guys get along? There? I would be ecstatic
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: to give context for this. My huge hatred of this.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Have you been able to air this and vent it? Really? Oh? Well,
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: this is your opportunity speak to bouchelor nation. Well, long
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: story short, Lucas and I were on a previous reality show,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: and on that show, couples were had to go to
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: a couple's therapy and they were given a chance to
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: try and reconnect or get over each other. And halfway
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: through the show they brought in five single guys girls.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: It was called Exile on on What Network? On TV? Yes,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: So the show was about five pairs of excess. I
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: got paid as a fitness model to go halfway through.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: I got I got three grand to go to Dominican
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: for seven days. They were like, are you single? Are
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: you open to being in a relationship? I was like, yeah, confused,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: you guys are single, but you're in relationships. No. No,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: The five pairs of couples were in a relationship or
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: breaking up or getting back together whatever. They brought five
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: single guys five single girls halfway through to help them
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: make a connection if they wanted to meet new people.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: So Lucas and I have shared a love interest. Yes.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: So the reason why I'm so frustrated with Lucas is
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: that on that show at the end, the couples can
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: leave by themselves together or with someone knew they made
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: a connection with um. But on that show at the end,
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: he and our similar love and just his quote unquote
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: ex girlfriend chose to leave together. So basically he had
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: to break up with the girl he was saying, and
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: she had to quote unquote breakup with me. Well, the
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: reason why I'm upset and we're talking, we talked about
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: right reasons is because Lucas chose to go home with
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: her but he kept screwing the girl that he saw
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: on the show in the real world. The girl that
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: chose to go home with Lucas actually had a boyfriend
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: in real life, and she told him from the start
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: she would pick Lucas. She's not even though she kissed
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: me and we had a connection. So they were both
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: fake and I was real. But luckily that show made
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: me look good. I get on this show, they tell
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: me that Lucas isn't there. They said they didn't know
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: that he was on another show, and I go, okay, great,
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I've got three options here. The second I saw Lucas,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: I was like, I can pretend like I don't know him,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: and then I'm a fake. I can be friends with him.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be friends with the wa Boom guy,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: or I have to try and distance myself from this.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: But I already knew that I was set up to fail,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: because they're gonna say you both were on a real
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: you both are here for the wrong reason. So I
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: was set up to fail from the start. My frustration
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: now isn't with Lucas, it's with the situation. Well, I mean,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: like we've talked about this in the podcast before and
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: I get where your frustration come from. But I and
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: you might have a different experience than I do. But
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: I've never felt like the show has misedited something. I mean, yes,
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: it cuts out stuff, but the overall storyline always seems
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: to play out exactly how it happened when I was there.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: I disagree with him on this topic, on me or
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: on Ben. Thank you, Yeah, you're welcome. There's a there's
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: a lot missing from storylines. Can I just say backstory
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: that I When producers asked me who I was most
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: excited to see in Paradise, I said, I hope Ashley
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: I is there. Thank you. That's not happening this year.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: They said why. I was like, well, I think she's
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: kind of crazy, but I have a I'm really good
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: with crazy, so I think I could handle her. And
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: they're like, okay, we'll keep good crazy. But you know
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: what it's like to get kind of a you know,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: not fair. I'm sure you don't cry all the time
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: every day, but I did cry every day, Like that's
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: highly accurate. But there are some other things that I
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: think we're mess with along the way. So they just,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: you know, they were moving on. What is the E
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: stand for? In your name, Like, why is it blake
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: E like Chuck E. Well, um, nice, my full name
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: is William Blake Ellerby. But Ellerby is the There was
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: a blake k on the show, so I was Blake
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: that is why. So you have entered into the Ashley
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: I syndromes. You're constantly going to be a blake E
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: from now on. I like my initial Now he did
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: not love it. Um, so should we talk about paradise?
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: You were talking about paradise. Did you like the fact
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: that you had to swap spit with basically two other
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: guys as you just kissed Kristen back to back to back.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: So before my date, I was told that nobody had
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: kissed Kristen and if I did, I would come out
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: in front. And I kissed her at sunset over the
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: water on the date and they didn't show that. Oh
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: that was the second case we saw. I was like,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: what the come on? Like, oh my gosh, I mean
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: walk a walk up. Um, hey, I'm looking at your
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out your last name because
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: I had no clue what it was, and so I
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: looked up your your Instagram Blake and there's a girl
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: topless kissing you on your Instagram? Who is that woman?
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: And was she around for Paradise? No, that's uh, that's
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: my ex girlfriend. And why did you post it on
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: your Instagram? Then when was that? What's the date of
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: the post? It's like just last week or earlier this week?
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: Shut up? Well, Paradise makes me look like, you know,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: a loser that can't get a date. And I just
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: was trying to show people that Paradise paradise romance wise
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: and got crap on me. I have got to check
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: out this girl. Wait, Blake, are you telling me that
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: you're trying to overcompensate by posting a picture? Okay? Oh man, Um, yeah,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: you're honest. Instagram Blake, you need to help me out
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: here because Instagram is always confused me. I talked to
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: Chase about this and it could just be that I
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: just am not um ripped enough to do this. But
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: you've got a lot of shirtless pictures and a lot
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: of underwear picks on here. Um, can you please explain
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: to me the reasoning and the mentality behind posting this stuff. Well,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I'm a personal trainer, I major to nutrition. I'm a
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: certified strength and conditioning specialists I'm a fitness model and
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: that's kind of my world, so it kind of shows
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: what I do. I mean, if somebody wants to get
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: shredded or diet, you need to show them that you've
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: been there first. So I'm just showing what I do perfect. Yeah,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: I mean Chase Chase said something similar, so I I
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: just have no clue about that stuff. I look at
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Instagram half the time, and um, people's lives seem a
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: lot more exciting than mine, and so I just trying
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: to catch up and take cool pictures when I can,
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: and maybe next time I'll do one shirtless. I think
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: you're pretty cool. Thanks, um Blake. Last question, are you
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: happy to Paradise? Uh? No, because I got scalloped. How
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: long were you there for? I was there for well,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: the hotel like three and a half days, but I
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: was literally in Paradise for twenty hours straight. Got up
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: at six, back at the hotel at eight. That was
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: all filmed the same day. That hurts the heart. I mean,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I guess this is okay. So aside you would actually
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: believe that things aren't headed correctly, I would I would say, okay,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: I'd fall someplace in the middle of then, Um there
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: are storylines that don't play out completely accurately to how
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: it's shown, but for the most part, the story is
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: told to what I imagine actually happened. So when we
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: watched last night's episode, it looked like you had a
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: hard time finding a date. Was that the true scenario?
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Or explained to the audience exactly what was going on?
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Do these women really want to go on day two d?
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: Were they already taken? What was happening there that, in
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: your opinion, was shown incorrectly? Uh? Yeah, I'll tell you
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: exactly what happened. Um, I get there. Christina was my
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: first choice, and she seemed kind of hesitant to go
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: out with me, but I wanted to kind of show
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: her that I wasn't that same guy she saw on
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: the show. And when she started a warm up to me,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: I said, okay, well when I come back, if I
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: were to ask you, would you say yes? And she
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: said yes. So after I talked to like four girls
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: and I came back and I asked her first she
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: said no. I was like, you're throwing me onto the bus,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: but more are you doing? And when I spoke to Danielle,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: I spoke to Danielle second I could tell, like there's
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: no chemistry there, but they said, hey, ask her, like,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: if you were to ask her, she'd say yes. And
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I didn't want to do that, but I did, and
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: of course she said no. So they're getting the footage
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: they need of me getting shot down and uh, Raven
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: was like hungover on the ground. They're like, go talk
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: to Raven and I think I spoke to I forgot
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: who else. I spoke to Jasmine, But everybody really pushed
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: for Kristen, and Kristen wasn't really on my radar. But
• 33:35
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• 33:37
  Speaker 1: She was actually really sweet on the date and you
• 33:39
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• 33:42
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• 33:46
  Speaker 1: her contacts wouldn't come out because she was gonna be
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: legally blind if she lost her contact. So I had
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: to go get her like um water bottle caps to
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: put contacts in, and we got her some solution and
• 33:55
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• 33:58
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  Speaker 1: sexy and your glasses, Ben, Come on, I did think
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  Speaker 1: get a pair of glasses. I'm I'm getting old, Ashley.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: I need to have some readers on me, all right. Actually,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: it's time for us to talk a little bit. Are
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: you ready to talk? I just want to talk to
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: you right now. But I'm kind of glad there's the
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: two of us. Yeah, we haven't got to do this
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: yet today and I've been missing you. Um, all right,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: here's a couple of topics. We're gonna keep the topics
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: just the three of them, the three main topics of
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: the episode. But we're gonna start with a tweet that
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: I got yesterday that to me, um, it's sad. Okay,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: I have the tweet read something like this. I don't
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: have in front of me. I wish I did, but
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: it said something like this, Dear Ben, I am going
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: to stop watching The Bachelor because it feels like it's
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: turned into a boy making fun of and shame fast
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: and that's sad to me because that's not what this
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: show should be. It's not what this show used to be.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: But after watching last night's Bachelor in Paradise, I want
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: to know if you can kind of understand where she's
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: coming from, because I can. Um, it seems like to me,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: just off the top of my head, that she's referring
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: to the twins and their antics, which sucks because we're
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: both friends of the Twins and I know that they
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: felt really awkward when they went into Paradise. There wasn't
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: any guys left there the last ones there, Dean denied
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Emily's day, and I knew that she was really looking
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: forward to asking him out. And they've also apologized on
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Twitter a zillion times this week. They've just been like,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: this was not us. We completely lost it. And I
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: have completely lost on the show too. I've said horrible
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: things about people because in the moment, you think it's
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: funny and it is not funny. Um, So I understand
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: and get carried away when you're in that environment and
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: you are frustrated and upset and feel left out. Yeah,
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: I mean I was gonna see you know, I do.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: I knew, I do know. The twins last night watching
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: it was surprising me. I don't think any of us
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: would say that their actions and their words were um
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: kind or appropriate. But twins aside. Now because they have apologized,
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: we'll both accept that apology. It sounds like I will.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: It sounds like you as well, um, kind of. I
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: want to understand the mentality though, to how you lose yourself.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: You just said something at the end of that last
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: statement that I think it might ring true. You feel
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: alone and you feel like an outsider, and so as
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: a result, what you react is that what happens. I think.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: I think, to be quite frank, we all make fun
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: of people when we're at home with our friends, right, Like,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: we all talk smack about other people, especially if we
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: don't like them. I mean, if we had cameras following
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: us around at all times, we'd be caught saying the
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: ugliest things. It's just human nature. So I think that
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: when you get into that interview room, you think you're
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: just talking to your friend, and you don't think about
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: what it's going to look like two months down the
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: road when it's aired. Yeah, that's that's a great point. Yeah,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: you kind of lose yourself and you become so comfortable
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: in the interview room that you have no clue, um,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: what it's gonna look like months later. But that brings
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: up a good point. Any of these people then need
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: to they are held to a standard, right, they have
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: a responsibility, um, And so you have to watch yourself
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: as you speak about people, because you know it's going
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: to come back. I mean at a small example, we
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: look at Uh, we talked to Kristen earlier and she's
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: talking about her scalt fingers. Right, it's kind of funny,
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: it's humorous, but it dragged on and on and on
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: and on, and I can imagine what that nickname did
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: was kind of take away some of the guy's interest
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: in her because that's all they could think about. And
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: that's unfair to Christen at that point. And did you
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: have a moment when you were on either season that
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: you said or did something you regret? Yeah? I mean
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, regret is is an interesting
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: word for me. I've had to apologize to people's uh individually,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: and I've also had to um kind of tuck my
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: table to my legs at times. Yeah. I've definitely done
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: things um in my time on on The Bachelor and
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: Bachelorret that I guess I look back on which I
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: would have done it differently. Yeah, yeah, I mean I
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: think that the most popular one, right is telling two
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: women at the end of The Bachelor's that I love them.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: I mean not that I didn't have strong feelings for
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: them both, but it was an inappropriate use thing to
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: say at a time that was critical in my relationship
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: with my future fiance. I think that was um, irresponsible
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: for me. I think it was unwise. I wish I
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: would have just held those emotions and to save them
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: for that last moment, but I didn't and and as
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: a result, I had to apologize or explain myself um
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: throughout that. So, I mean, I think that would be
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: my my big when when I think about something that
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: happened that really affected somebody else deeply, that would be it.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: And and that's what I said. I mean, that's why
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: I'll I'll forgive the twins in a second. I mean,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: what they said totally uncalled for, not cool, but hey,
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: you said it. It happens. Um in a sense, it's
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: locker room talk. You have to move on. So we
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: we've all been there. But I'm the thing I'm interested
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: in is there's so much weight to each word everybody says,
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: um there in when you're being filmed, and I think
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: we all have a responsibility to participate in the show,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: to hold ourselves to above approach. Um. There's also times
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: where you say things because you think they're going to
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: sound funny, but then they're not funny. Yeah, that you're
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: exactly right. I mean, I think last night's episode, though,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: to me, it felt heavy. I mean, even though there
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: was a lot of um predictability to it, it it felt
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: heavy because I thought there was a lot of people
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: getting their feelings hurt. And one of the person that
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: was getting their feelings hurt was Christina. And she was
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: getting a hurt by one of our good friends, Dean,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: who we just spent the week with, who who I
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: really enjoy spending my time with, and I've got to
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: know him now better than I did a couple of
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: weeks ago when we were just talking on the podcast.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: I love Dean. I think he's a good guy. I
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: think he's young, and I think he's figuring himself out,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: which we all are um. But he hurt Christina deeply
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: last night we saw it and and my react action
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: was that Christina cared and actually, please disagree with me here,
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: but this is my take. Christina cared too much for
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: Dean in this environment. I think she was ready to
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: spend what she believed is the rest of her life
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: with Dean, and he was just like at a glance, saying, hey,
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: I think you're cool. I think they're on completely two
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: different wavelengths when it came to where their heart was at.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, totally. But you can't really predict how you're
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: going to feel there. What does that mean? I mean?
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: I went into Paradise one, my Paradise one, and I
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: was like, I'm not gonna like anyone, Like the producers
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: are going to, like if they want me to stick around,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: they're going to have to force me to like someone.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: And then immediately, like right off the bat, I was
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: just like, fell so hard for Jared. I never thought
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: I'd even like like someone, let alone like borderline love.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: That's I mean, good pointment. And how quickly that happened
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: for you? Actually that happened at first sight, To be honest,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: it was like really weird. It was probably the closest
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: of our ad to love it for a sight. Yeah,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, and there was something there. You you still
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: have a relationship the Jar today, so there was obviously
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: something to back those feelings. And I feel like Dean
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: and Christina aren't done yet. Just by my sense of
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: watching this show, there was too many, too many open
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: ended issues that they didn't get closure on. I wouldn't
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: be surprised if we hear about Dean and Christina again
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: one day. What do you think I agree with you?
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm I loved this. Please don't think
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: any differently of of well, I guess being made his
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: mistakes so you can think pretty differently of him right now.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: But we I love being I respecting. I think he's
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: a good guy. He's making terrible decisions on Paradise that
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I think he's learned from, and if you talked to
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: him today, he would apologize for. But I think Christina's
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: reaction was was I enjoyed it because I thought it
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: was real, it was authentic, it was raw, and she
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: was going crazy because she watched a man I don't
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: want to put words in her mouth that she loved
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: or really liked or had deep feelings for, make out
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: with another woman right in front of her, and it
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: was tearing her up inside. It is not normal. I
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: know we've talked about this in the podcast the past
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks, but it is not normal to have
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: to watch the guy that you love make out with
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: somebody in front of your face. Correct, So why did
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: she not leave? Then? She stuck around and kept trying
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: to date him, and that was my Okay, we're talking
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: about back on the beds where like early in Monday's episode,
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: Early in Monday's episode, I did want her to leave then,
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: and then he probably would have been like, oh my god,
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: I lost her no, I have to get her that
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: hard to get chase things. And then Raven excellent point.
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: I hated it it, you loved it. I hated it
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: because this is what girls do. And Ben, you can
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: explain this. Girls don't listen. They live in La la land.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: I know that's what Christina was doing. And Raven was
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: telling her the truth. I mean, then Raven's telling her
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: the truth, and she did exactly what girls do. Instead
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: of going, you're right, by Dean, she yelled at Raven.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. But you h it was so annoying.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: I was so annoyed because, yeah, Raven is speaking what
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Christina even knows is the truth. But it's not the
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: time for her friend, Raven, who's in this happy relationship
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: and who's at zero bumps along this paradise road, to
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: just be like, oh, you know, I'm going to preach
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: to her about this and like hopefully she gets it.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: I am not a lover of tough love. If you
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: throw tough love at me, I'm probably gonna retaliate more
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: and be like nope, not over. I'm gonna get him
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: like I'm going to try to enjoy making mistakes. I
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: know I will I will because Raven was telling her
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: the truth and Christina. Christina played it wrong from the start.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: Girls need to go by Dean, but I just you know,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: we know we do. It's just something that like in
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: our weird Psyche tells us not to do. The kick
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: ass girls of this world are the ones that can leave,
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: and they're the ones that probably win. I want to
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: ask Ben, Ben, if you were Dean okay and you
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: like them both, which obviously he did, and Christina bails
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: you when you have wanted her, but you would have
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: wanted her more? Um, But actually saying do I want
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: her more? You would have wanted her more if she
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: left early on in Monday's episode or even last week,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: then you would have been like, hey, I'm going to
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: go after this one. Um. I can't say that, honestly.
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: I think if I put myself in the Dean shoes,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: or if I was there in Dean's position and had
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: two wonderful women in front of me that I was
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: confused about, I can see where he's coming from. I
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: just think he handled it incorrectly. Um, I would have
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: been I would have felt terrible if she would have
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: got up and left you. I don't know if I
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: would have wanted her more romantically, because I think that
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: would have been almost felt like manipulation, like Hey, I'm
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: gonna get up and walk away, so he chases me.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: But I think I would have felt so sad and
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: so like that I had hurt somebody. I could see
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: it in Dean's eyes as Christina was sitting there explaining
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: herself with tears in her own eyes, and he just
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: didn't have the words at all, which he hasn't exactly
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: had the words through this whole season to explain himself.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, Ben, I want to talk to you
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: about something, Okay. So on Monday night, Dean posted a
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: picture of the cutest, cutest picture of he and Christina
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: in Kentucky during the week of their break, and the
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: caption said, you're out of my league okay, and oh
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: my god, did I get all mushy? And you know,
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: I was so touched, And then Jared goes, that's such
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: b S because whenever I say that you're out of
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: my league, you tell me that that's b S. And
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: I go, that's because that statement is BS. I need
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: to know your thoughts on this statement. You're out of
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: my league is no My dad always told me that
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: if if somebody says there that you are out of
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: their league, just means just yes, I do. It just
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: means that they don't actually like you. It means that
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: they don't like you and they're trying to let you
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: down easily. No person is ever going to be like,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: oh you know what this person she they're too good
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: for me. I'm going to find someone a little bit
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: more mediocre to match me. Like, it's not gonna happen.
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: Which if you had said that to some girl, yes, Ben,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: do you think that that? And it is always a lie,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Yes it is. You're not gonna say, oh, you know what,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: this girl is too good for me. I should have
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: just said no comment here, because you used the line
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: before to let girls down gently. You just said you
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: got mushy. I did, And then Jared said that's a
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: b s because whenever I used the line, you don't
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: believe it. And then I was like, you know what
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: this is b So now you think these posts bs um.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: I think this is the appropriate term. I think this
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: is a better term. I don't deserve you, okay, I
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: mean I get that. Yeah, I think they're there is
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: a time and place in every relationship where you should
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: feel like the other person is too good for you,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: you want to be with somebody who's too good for you.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: You would never turn someone down who's too good for you,
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: so you want to You want to be in a
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: relationship that you feel like that your partner is too
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: good for you. But the reverse of that is you
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: also and I think this is um and an important
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: um topic that we could go into more, but you
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: also want at some level to feel like your partner
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: believes that you're too good for them, because I think
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: that bounces out where both parties are going wow, like
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: I am so lucky because I feel I feel so
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: special and that my partner believes I'm so special and
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: that they love me so much that they're almost confused
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: at the person I am right, Like I've been in
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: relationships before where somebody's looked at me and said you're
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: too good for me, and I've said that's not true.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: I know it's not true, but there's a level there
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: where I feel the same about about her, and it
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: works because both parties just feel so special to be
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: with each other. That's that's why I like the phrase
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: I don't deserve you because I think if you use
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: the words I don't deserve you, that could allude to like,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: you care about me too much and I can't catch
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: up to your feelings and I like that too. Maybe
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: that maybe, uh, you should text Dean and see feel
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: change the caption, cause I think that's what he's trying
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: to say. I'm not I know the love that the
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: loving place that Dean came up with that quote, Like,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to like crap on his caption because
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: I think I know exactly what he means by that
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: you don't really really love. I think he loves Christina.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: I think he truly cares about her. He just is
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: having a very hard time navigating a very unnatural environment. Yeah,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: and that brings me then to this question. You know,
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: we saw something this week that we don't see often.
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: We see about the final two or three weeks of
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: The Bachelor and the Bachelor at but we saw in
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: Paradise and I think you felt very similar to this.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: We saw true heartbreak. I think it would be hard
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: for for anybody to argue that Christina was not heartbroken
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: for for a couple of days here at Paradise. And
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: as hard as that is, to watch. We have to think,
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: I guess Christina for putting herself out there in front
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: of all of us so that we get to watch
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: her journey to find love. And that's what this whole
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: franchise about. Right. It comes back to the first question
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: we asked batually that that's that's from Paradise almost feels
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: like a bully fest right now. It's not right, it's
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: not fair, it's not what we want to watch. What
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: we want to watch is people trying to are people
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: trying to find love, and Christina was going at it.
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: We want to watch people and then feel comforted by
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: the fact that they are going through on TV. But
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: we go through in our daily lives and we don't
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: go through this just making fun of party fest. What
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: we do go through is like heartbreak and love, and
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: that's what people go and watch The Bachelor and The
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: bachel work for. Yeah, let's get back to it, right,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: I mean that, let's let's get back to people attempting
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: to find love and not as much of put each
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: other down. And and and we've lived in this world awhile,
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: Actually I think the two of us want to lift
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: each other up, hopefully, know you lift me up? All
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: the time you said my glass they're sexy. I mean,
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna walk out of here a little more confidently.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: The text that you send me throughout the week just
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: randomly like make my heart burst. So yeah, I mean,
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: that's it is. We want to lift each other up
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: and we can make fun of each other. I can
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: make fun of Blake for taking pictures of the shirt off.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: I think that's weird. I'll never get it, and I'll
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: never tell him that I get it. I think that's
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: just absolutely for a thousand reasons odd. But you know what,
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I don't want to
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: see Blake hurt, even if I think his Instagram is
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: weird or I think his fingers smell funny like scallops.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: I don't want to see him hurt deep down. And
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: I hope this show is not hurting people um to
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: their core. That's that would be terrible. UM. And last
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: night I thought we walked a very thin line into that.
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: I want to just bridge on one topic before we
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: move on. And I am posted on Instagram with Dean
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: yesterday and it was like the weirdest thing because I
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: got so much hate on on my comments section about Dean,
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: and the caption just said, like, everybody makes mistakes, everybody
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: has those days, right, because that's a hand of Montana quote.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: But I knew that he made some bad moves in Paradise,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: but there are a few people that can make me
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: smile and laugh like he does. He's one of the
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: warmest people I've ever met. And people are like, I
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: cannot believe you're condoning his behavior. I'm like, am I
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: condoning his behavior? No? He like, he admits that he
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: made the mistakes, but like you guys can't like villainize
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: him as a bad person because of what he's done
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: in Paradise. Um. Also, I can't stand this expression f boy,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: like there's no po there's no point. And I want
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: to know your definition of when F boy is because
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: this term has just been everywhere on social media regarding
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Dean and I'm tired of it. But I'm tired of
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: it because I think when I think F boy, I
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: think a player that hooks up with different girls with
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: zero guilt, zero guilt attached. And I do not think
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: that that is Dean. In You've answer the question perfectly,
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: you know, it is like when when I think a
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: F boy. I don't know if I know many I've
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: had friends in college that have kind of been like this,
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: b I, it's hooking up without Gil and most of
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: my friends, including myself, in our decisions in life, through
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: college and adulthood. When you've you've interacted with a female,
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: but you've you've had a relationship and and maybe you're
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: kind of over, you harbor this guilt. And I've always
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: said when my buddies asked me about it, right, like,
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: why can't I just go out and mess around with
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: girls like some of the other guys do and not
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: whole gil, I said, no, that's a good thing. That
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: shows you, it really is. It shows your soul. You
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: have a soul, shows you have characters, shows um that
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: your heart breaks for others hearts breaking, um. And the
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: thing we always have to remember on a show or not,
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: these are people. We are people with a soul and
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: with eyes and with feelings, and you don't you don't
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: want to manipulate those feels. You don't want take advantage
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: of those feelings. And people who kind of just sleep
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: around and then say, oh, you know, screw it, like whatever. Um,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: that's the people we want to stay away from. So
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: that would be my destinition. Dean's not one of those. Yes,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: Dean made some really bad decisions, terrible decisions. He did
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: not treat Christina or Danielle Um fairly in this, but
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he could because his heart was
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: being torn in two different directions. But he had guilt. Um.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: He wasn't just doing that to sleep with two beautiful women.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: That wasn't his intention. He he actually wanted to see
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: something work where he could be um a supporter of them.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: And you know, I don't think he did it correctly,
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: but I totally got what you're saying in your post.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: I think you're completely spot on. You love the kid
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: through it, You're gonna stick with him through it. He
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: needs a good woman like you to be there for him.
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  Speaker 1: to talk about Mike Flis and these crazy crazy Okay,
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: let's not call the creator of our beloved show crazy.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: I just think that his tweets are being a little
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: lacky lately. We were analyzing them all weekend long when
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: we were in Tahoe. The one today, the one that
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: he tweeted about two or three hours ago, said unfortunately,
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: Peter will probably not be the Bachelor. And this follows
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: tweets over the past couple of days that said that
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: Wells will not be the Bachelor, that nobody from Jojo
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: season will be the bachelor, and that Dean will also
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: not be the bachelor. So we are left with you
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: and Luke are possible selection, probably probably not. So is
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: he just trying to mislead us? And it's definitely like
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: it's probably not. But the tem per cent chance, well,
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: that's the temper cent it's going to actually end up being. Well, guys,
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: I got a big announcement. I'd like to make him
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: almost famous podcast. I have no clue to the back.
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, you freaking me out. For a second,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: I was like, this is how it's happening, This is
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: how it's going to happen. Part of this um, I
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: have no clue and it's it's crazy. But here's here's
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: the I know Mike. I think Mike is hilarious. I
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: think Mike is brilliant. I think Mike knows exactly what
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: he's doing, and what he's doing is getting people like
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: us to talk about his crazy tweets. So there is
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: a ton of interest around the next Bachelor. We don't
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: know who it is. I don't even know if they
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: know who it is. Honestly, at this point, I know
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: that the people that he said are not the Bachelor,
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: and I'm going to include Peter and that even though
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: it was a probably, um, they're getting pretty thin and
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: so if it's not me, oh, we're gonna to wait
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: and see on Good Morning Arcade. You possibly hide this
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: from us the entire time, I know, so I'd like
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: to tell everybody out there little stories. So for the
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: last three weeks, I've been planning to surprise Ashley in Tahoe,
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: uh this last week because I couldn't wait to see
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: her and Jared and Dean and Luke. So for three
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: weeks I kept a pretty good secret up until the
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: night that I was supposed to show up. Then actually
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: and Jared found a picture of me at the airport
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: adding the time, so they caught on. So if I
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: can keep that secret, do you think I keep the secret? Ben?
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: Are you the Bachelor? Are you leaving me? On this podcast?
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: Here's the deal. Okay, here's the deal. Mike Flice is
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: a brilliant man. He created show that's played for twenty
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: two seasons, plus The Bachelor at plus Bachelor in Paradise.
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: He's hanging out in Hawaii right now, and he's laughing
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: at all the attention that his tweets are getting. I
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: don't know how this plays out, I don't, but what
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: I do know is that him tweeting like a crazy
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: person is such good at our It's such good entertainment.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: And all of us, including the two of you, will
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: have to wait and find out who the next Bachelor
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: will be. Then, Oh my gosh, okay it. First off,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: you guys want to follow Mike plays Flights and also
• 1:00:12
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• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: But it's at Flice, maister. It's f l E I
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: S S m E I S t E R. And
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: we'd love to hear you break down all the tweets
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: because we have just been analyzing the crap out of them. Yeah. Um,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: And I'm also going to do a little call here.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna challenge Mike Flights to come on this podcast
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: and explain himself all of tweets, uh next week hopefully
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: after the bachelors announced, and um, you'll have to wait
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: and find out. Well, I can't believe that you're the bachelor.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: He's not. But I'm torn if I wanted to be
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: Peter or not now I don't even know. I do
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: want Peter for yourself, because sometimes I wonder the same
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: for me. I'm like, I'm very team Peter and becoming
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: the bachelor, but also should I be thinking more selfishly? Ladies,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: you're getting very excited about this topic, but we're dragging
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: it on a little bit longer than we should be.
• 1:01:04
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• 1:01:06
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• 1:01:08
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• 1:01:10
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• 1:01:13
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• 1:01:15
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• 1:03:00
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• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: to Lauren and Missouri. Hello, Hello, Lauren. Hi, Oh my gosh,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna throw up. I love you so,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh. I'm okay, where are you right now?
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: I'm yes, I'm shaking. You're shaking. We thought you said chafing.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: I thought I was real confused or like you're running.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: It's so funny. Yeah, okay, what do you think? Who
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: is the next Bachelor? Lauren? Okay, so I've been following
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: that producer's tweet and I really think it's been Z
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: from the Paradise season because no, shot, you know what,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know who it isn't. Oh my gosh, ben Zi, dude,
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: you're very kind, but that would be really the season
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: of all time. Do you think he's just so cute? Yeah,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: I mean I think he I think he has a
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: big heart. I don't think knowing Ben first off, I
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: don't think he would be able to handle it. I
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: think he he cares a lot, and I think he would.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: He would get tired of the constant interaction. And he
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: misses dog. That's true, he would miss his dog, sus
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: he would, Lauren. Our follow up question to you then, Okay, Steve,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: I's been watching Bachelor in Paradise. Yes, Um, have you
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: enjoyed this season? Is the first question want to ask. Um.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: It's been okay, Like I don't know what other words
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: to describe. Um, it's kind of been a disappointment. I
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: feel like because the only love story is really Taylor
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: and Derek, and I felt are not really showcasing it.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: It's more about on the other drama. Uh. And I
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: just I guess, like I love Dean at the beginning
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: of the season. Now I'm mad at him and I'm
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: just kind of like, what are you doing? Um? I
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: want to see more of Robbie and Amanda because I
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: love that storyline. UM, But everything else that just seems
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: like it all fizzling out, and I don't know. I
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: don't know what's going on. I was listening to you
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: guys this podcast yesterday from I Guess was it last
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: week about how there's just been a lot of drama
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: and it really hasn't been any love, and I was like, yes,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: I agree with that. It feels like magical are musical chairs?
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: Feels like musical chairs, and every the music stopped and
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: everybody's screwing to find someone, and everybody partners up with
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: someone they don't actually really like. Yeah, no, I agree.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: It's it's all like just having fun with their friends
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: and it's not really about finding that connection. And I
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: feel like everyone's just trying to make it as long
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: as they can on Paradise without even really just trying
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: to find love. Lord. As you're talking there, UM, I
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: thought of something. Okay, it's kind of clipped with me
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: and I could be crazy, So I need to bounce
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: this off some of my my female wisdom here the
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: two of you. Um, you said you know you love
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: Dean beginning of the season, right, everybody loved and now
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: you're just mad at him. Do you kind of feel
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: like Dean is your little brother? Like, I haven't met
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: many women who like absolutely hate them. They're all just
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: annoyed and mad at him, like this is that? Is
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: that kind of how everybody's feeling. I think. I don't
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: know about the brother thing. I just I kind of
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: see him as like a guy in my past that
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: strewed me over, and I'm just kind of like taking
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: my anger out on what happened to me out on
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: him because I'm watching it on national television, if that
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: makes sense. But I could see like the little brother's
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: side of things too, because if my brother did that,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: I would be just as mad. Yeah, I mean I
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: get it, like there isn't many people that hate and
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: you shouldn't hate Bean. I mean you should be upset
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: with his with his decision making, but I feel like
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: he's just so darn cute that everybody's like, oh, you
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: know what, just so mad at you, Dean, But gosh,
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: dang it, I just want to pinch your cheeks. Yeah,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: I cane like to say that, And I was wondering
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: if that's how you felt, Ashley, since you guys are
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: like so close. Yeah, I just don't like the fact
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: that people are villainizing him for mistakes that he's making
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: when like we all make mistakes. I'm not condoning that
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: he don't insensitive things, but nothing's ever been done by
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: him in malicious intent, you know what I mean. People
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: are making see he's trying to hurt people on purpose,
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: and he doesn't feel bad. But I think, you know,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: I think he definitely feels bad about it, or else
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: he wouldn't be as emotional as he is on the show.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: I think if he didn't care about Christina, then he
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: then you would see that, But I think he does.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: I think Christina was just a challenge for him and
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: he didn't know how to handle that because like the
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: right woman for you was going to be intimidating. So
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think he's a villain either,
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: And I don't understand why people are labeling him as
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: a villain because I think he just made a mistake
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: and I think it's just as unfortunate for him. It's
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: on national television. Yeah, he's a good looking feller who
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: got stuck on an island with some really good looking
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: people and he fell for multiple Like, I can't feel
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: that bad for Day, but we can. We can also
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: check him where he's at and say come on, buddy,
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: step it up. So, Lauren, thank you for the call.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Lauren. We're gonna move by talking to you guys.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: So good talking to you all. Right now we're going
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: on to Emily in New Jersey. Hey, Emily, UM, what
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: you're thinking? Hi? Um? First up, I love both of
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: you guys. I'm as past with this podcast. I watched it.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: I listened to it every week. Thank you, Thank you, Emily.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: We really appreciate you saying that. Um. I have a
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: question about whether you whether or not you guys think
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: that there's a possibility of them getting this Bachelor season
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: and having Christina go up as the bachelrette. Did you
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: have my car bugged this morning? Because this is exactly
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: what I was talking about. And the only reason, and
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: I think it's a spectacular idea, the only reason I
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: see it being um impossible, not you know, completely possible,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: nothing impossible. There's something impossible anyway, um, is that they've
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: already casted presumably all the girls for said Bachelor's season,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: and they have not done any casting for the guys. Well,
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: and I mean there's some TV business we got to
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: talk about here. Yeah, So the Bachelor historically brings in
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: UM a lot better ratings than The Bachelorette. UM, it's
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: just kind of time a year, So I mean, I
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: guess it would be different. Time you can really put
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: down and play. But I think that UM, the Bachelor
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: has a female audience, and the females like watching the
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: Bachelor because they can kind of relate with the women
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: and there's more than one woman involved, and then they
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: kind of all like the you and over the Bachelor,
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: and so it brings in more ratings. It's it's it's
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: a higher, higher publicized show. So I think i'd be
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: I would be very surprised. I don't think that would
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: be the case. What I don't think would be surprising
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: it would be if The Bachelor comes outside of the
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: franchise this season. It's so I believe it's not Peter,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: it's not the it's nobody that will at least nobody's
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: participated in this show before. I'd say there's about a
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: seventy possibility that's gonna be the case. I UM suggested
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: an outside celebrity UM to one of the producers, and
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: he seemed about three weeks ago to poo poo that
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: idea of having somebody from outside the franchise. Of course
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: he would. He doesn't want to get you involved in this. Yeah,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: I know. He was like, actually, you just up with
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: a genius idea. We're going to pretend like she wasn't
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: the one who came up with it, and we're gonna
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: go along with it. Actually, I hope if it is
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: a bachelor outside of the franchise that you take credit
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: for it. I take credit for it. That would be
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: I would love that I would come out on this
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: podcast until everyone what happened? You know? The truth to
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: all this is we it is a time where we're
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: excited for this. I mean we're I remember leading up
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: to the announcement of me being a bachelor, and just
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: to let everybody know, I only found out I was
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: gonna be the bachelor about four days before we announced it,
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: which is so silly because you are like, we're the
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: obvious bachelor, you know. So if that took four if
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: that was four days before it was announced, I can't
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: even imagine what it's gonna be like this time around,
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: when it's just so up in the air. Yeah, I mean,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: that's it, and so there's a lot of anticipation. We're
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: all excited. I'm excited. I think we need another great
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: guy to join that this family. Did you say like me?
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: Oh uh? You guys make me make me laugh. Um.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: But hey, yeah, we'll have to wait and see. But
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: if not, Christina is a choice, let's let's do another
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: Bachelor st season. I always like watching them. I think
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: after Paradise everyone loved it. But yeah, thank you guys,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: thank you for your very poignant thoughts. Emily. We're going
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: to move on to Allison in Pennsylvania. Hey, you are
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: a teacher. No, I am a senior at Tufts University.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: But at Tufts we have this program where you can
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: teach UM seminars to freshman as sort of an orientation class.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: So I'm teaching one with my best friend called The
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: Bachelor and Society baulate tonight. So what exactly does this
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: class until? Well, um, So the first portion of the class,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: we're sort of looking at the production and looking at
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: editing and how the show is physically made. Um. And
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: then the second portion we're really diving into um, looking
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: at social issues through the length of The Bachelor. So
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: we have an episode on gender and sort of heteronormativity
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: dating norm and then we get into races Rachel season,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: and we have a class on uh content and sexual
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: misconduct that works really well, you know from the Paradise stuff,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: but especially for a classical freshman students in college. It
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: sort of worked out pretty well that we're able to
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: talk about that definitely. So what are your thoughts on
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: this season of The Bachelor in Paradise? Um, I think
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: it's been interesting. As I said, the sexual misconduct stuff
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: was horrible, and I thought the whole thing was a
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: big mess, but it has given us a lot of
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: fruit for thought to think of going into our class. Um.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: I think it's a very difficult situation to handle, but
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: that overall the producers tried their best and how to
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: handle it and treat it as a scarious issue. But obviously,
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: you know, when you're thrown into something like that and
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: you're still trying to produce a TV show, it's hard
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: to deal with things delicately and still from the drama
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: the rest of the season, Yeah, what about the love stories,
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, we got some crazy love stories going on,
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: some bickering. Well, Reach just talked to Christen on this podcast.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: She is uh. I think we've nominated to the most
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: sought after Woman in Paradise this year. Um, when you
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: watch this, you're obviously educated. You're intelligent, you're teaching class
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: on it. Do you get emotionally involved in these storylines
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: or do you kind of keep it a distance and
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: you just analyze everything. I do get emotionally involved. I
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: go into it thinking, Okay, I'm going to take my notes,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: so I'm really going to analyze. But always halfway through,
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: I'm smiling, I'm cranking. I'm so excited for the people.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: And I always do believe in the love story, and
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it doesn't work out. I believe in
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: Taylor and Derek. They're very cute. Yeah, I'm with you.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: I mean I've I've watched this before and I emotionally
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: involved myself in a lot of these stories because I
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: do know it can work. I mean, Ashley would be
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: the first to tell you, Hey, true feelings can come
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: from the show every time. I mean, if you if
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: you just open yourself up, who knows where it will go.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: And we saw a little preview after this week's Bachelor
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: in Paradise where somebody was getting down on one knee proposing.
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: It looks like at the reunion special, But do you
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: think that is. I think that it has to be
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: Derek and Taylor, just based on the fact that they've
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: been only sort of solid couple through the whole thing,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: and yes they've had their issues, but they've been about
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: the other one the whole time. Everyone else. I'm just
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: not sure. Amanda. I don't think is ready to jump
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: into anything again, you know, after last season and Kristen
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: you said is juggling a lot of guys. I don't
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: think you can really whittle it down and this short
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: amount of a time, you don't think Amanda's ready, she doesn't.
• 1:15:36
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• 1:15:39
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  Speaker 1: my favorites. We have some great listener emails this week.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, after last week we kind of challenge everybody
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  Speaker 1: right in on their ideas of virgin shaming and the
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  Speaker 1: a plethora of emails. Ben, we should do a bonus
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  Speaker 1: That sounds awesome. Yeah, let's do that, Okay, But for
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: right now, we're just going to talk about Sophia. Sophia
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: wrote to us and she says, just wondering what your
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: thoughts are on Nick and Vanessa's breakup. I know Ben
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: went through a very similar situation. Do you have any
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: insight on what happened? I know it's a person situation,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: but all seems so great and happy for them. Um.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: Obviously we only see what they let us see on
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: social media, but it seems so sudden. By the way,
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: I love the podcast. You guys are the best. Hope
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: you because its discussed this Sophia. Um, Ben, I guess
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: I'll go first, because I think I see Nick more
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: often than you. But all I can say on this
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: matter is truly that Nick and Vanessa had been very
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: private in the relationship. Whenever Nick and I hang out,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: we don't really we don't really talk about that part
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: of life very much. Um. Yeah, that's just something that
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: they've always been very privative, ever since he even got
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: back from the Bachelor. Yeah, I would. I mean, I
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: don't think there is a great way to handle this, right.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: I can only speak from my experience, but it is
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: a private situation that because of your respect for the
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: fans and the people that have watched you, you make
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: it they don't need to tell us that they even
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 1: broke up, right, we could just find out the grapevine,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: and and Lauren, I didn't need to tell everybody publicly
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: they were broke up, but we wanted to out of
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: respect for the fans. Um, you know what leads up
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: to it? It's hard to say. Sometimes relationships in all
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, Sometimes they're going really well and something
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: happens and it changes everything in a split of a
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: in the split of a second. And um, we don't
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: know the backstory here. All I know is from my experience,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: and it's not an easy situation. It's hard no matter
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: how it's done. And I mean, what do you want
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: them to do? Did you want them to post on
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: their social media Instagram is leading up to and say, Hey,
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: we're having issues today, We're getting closer to the breakup. Hey,
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: tomrow you know tomorrow look for us even closer. No,
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: you you you don't know. It will just happen when
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: it happens. Um. My advice to him now, UM, I
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: don't really know. That's that's a tough topic. That's a
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: tough subject. I guess my advice for them now is
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: to keep their heads up, um, not listen to a noise,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: to find a way to love and respect each other.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: UM so much. It's important and um and UM they're
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: both lovely people. You know, Nick and I are very close.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: He's um a guiding a guiding source for me, honestly,
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: and has been for the past couple of years. He's
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: like a big brother to me. And Vanessa. I didn't
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: hang out with her too much, but every time I did,
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: she was lovely, very very nice girl to hang out with.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: That's it. I mean, Nick and Vanessa are now officially
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: moving on. We wish them the best from this podcast. Um,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: we think highly of them and uh we just hope
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: at this time that the hearts are breaking and life
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: is changing, that they are able to keep moving forward.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, that's a sad note to end the
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: podcast on, but it is something we have to address
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: as we are one of the official we are like
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: the official Bachelor podcast. Alright, guys, Well, next week is
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: the finale of Bachelor in Paradise. Can't wait to talk
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 1: about this supposed engagement with you guys, and to see
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: what happens with Deanie babies. Oh and there's a scandal
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: that we don't even know about. And maybe next time
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: we talk to you, we'll finally know who the Bachelor is.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: That is what I'm most excited about. So until then,
• 1:21:19
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