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No Doubter: Javy Baez Deserves All-Star Nod · Tiger Territory: A Detroit Tigers Podcast

• 0:05
  Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to another episode of Tiger Territory, part of
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: the Foul Territory Network, a the Toy Tiger's Podcast.
• 0:11
  Speaker 2: I'm Kerestec with me as always a man who never ever, ever, ever, ever, ever.
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  Speaker 1: It's prone to exaggeration, but uh, I guess I am
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  Speaker 1: sometimes he.
• 0:20
  Speaker 2: Is Cody Sabanagen. How you doing, how's clever, Kian?
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing good. We are talking post Tiger's victory. All
• 0:28
  Speaker 3: is right with the world again? Beat up on the
• 0:30
  Speaker 3: Pittsburgh Pirates a little bit too homewers for one hobby
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  Speaker 3: are bias who are gonna talk a lot about this episode.
• 0:37
  Speaker 3: Some call him Hobvey. Uh yeah, funny. What difference a
• 0:41
  Speaker 3: couple of days makes, right?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, there was a couple of good
• 0:45
  Speaker 1: omens that were put out there before the game. Will
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  Speaker 1: Vest seems like he's okay. That was something that I'm
• 0:49
  Speaker 1: sure Tigers fans were holding their breath about. And we'll
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  Speaker 1: discuss that a little bit later.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I.
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  Speaker 1: Actually am glad because you know, sometimes we don't want
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  Speaker 1: to be prisoner of the moments. We want to do
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  Speaker 1: like postgame podse every single time because we try to
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  Speaker 1: think like big picture and all that stuff, but sometimes
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  Speaker 1: it's fun to kind of lean into as if this
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  Speaker 1: was some sort of miniature version of a postgame show.
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  Speaker 1: And it felt fitting to do something like that today
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  Speaker 1: because the Tigers, we talked about it Sunday night, they
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: were quite uncharacteristic at the end. I mean literally like
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: they had not dropped the game, that they had a
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  Speaker 1: lead after this em of the inning so far this season,
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  Speaker 1: so like it was completely out of character or what
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  Speaker 1: happened there, and the errors being the more glaring examples
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  Speaker 1: of that, and you get the off day things are stealing,
• 1:44
  Speaker 1: and you have a game like Tuesday night where everything
• 1:48
  Speaker 1: kind of comes back, and if you're a Tigers fans,
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  Speaker 1: like things are as they should be and to peel
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  Speaker 1: back and go a little bit bigger picture, I think
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  Speaker 1: this might be perhaps the best game.
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  Speaker 2: To like, you know, NHL season.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not looking at the score, but it looks like
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  Speaker 1: that's you know, NHL Sea is about to be over,
• 2:14
  Speaker 1: NBA Finals are about to be over this week. If
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  Speaker 1: people are just kind of coming into baseball, just like
• 2:20
  Speaker 1: just in general, and they're like, huh, well, Tiger's seem
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  Speaker 1: to be doing pretty good, Like what's what's up with
• 2:27
  Speaker 1: that this would be a great game to show him
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  Speaker 1: to describe as to like the Tigers. Why if that
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  Speaker 1: makes sense. So obviously schooble school ball, he didn't play today.
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  Speaker 1: But you had three guys that were stars or noteworthy
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  Speaker 1: in this game that were quite frankly kind of left
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  Speaker 1: for dead metaphorically speaking coming into the ear. That's Casey
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  Speaker 1: Mayes who ends up he has two earned runs allowed,
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  Speaker 1: he has six over six innings, four k's walks.
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  Speaker 2: Retires ten of his last eleven.
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  Speaker 1: And again that was there was a time there where
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  Speaker 1: it was looking like it might be shaky, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're talking about a different version of Casey Mice. He
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  Speaker 1: got that squared away Hobby. Well, no, no, Javier.
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  Speaker 2: Commits the air. We're gonna get this right. Javier commits the.
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  Speaker 1: Air and then comes back and hits two home runs.
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  Speaker 1: He was obviously, I mean, it wasn't even on the
• 3:23
  Speaker 1: Gritty Tigs technically last year. And he hits two home
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  Speaker 1: runs and he's the star of the game. And then
• 3:30
  Speaker 1: you have Torque, a guy with no guaranteed spots, just
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  Speaker 1: like the He's just like Hobby and Casey, no real
• 3:38
  Speaker 1: guaranteed spots. Uh has the has the double that sets
• 3:42
  Speaker 1: up the Perez home run and gets the scoring Gum.
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  Speaker 1: This was technically a comeback win. But those guys are real.
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  Speaker 1: And then it's like, all right, well, you had an
• 3:54
  Speaker 1: All Star last year and Riley Green, like, what's going on?
• 3:57
  Speaker 2: Oh Riley Greens still and all Star caliber player.
• 4:01
  Speaker 1: He hit one of the more mammoth home runs that
• 4:04
  Speaker 1: you'll see going out to a left field. That thing
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  Speaker 1: was out in a hurry and wentzel Perez. As I mentioned,
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  Speaker 1: he had the home run and the triple. He would
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  Speaker 1: be wouldn't it be nice if this guy was you
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  Speaker 1: know something guy coming in the last coming from last
• 4:19
  Speaker 1: season you weren't sure. And then of course Dylan Dingler
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  Speaker 1: being catcher one, you know, wouldn't have been nice if
• 4:24
  Speaker 1: he was a decent backup catcher. Turns out he probably
• 4:27
  Speaker 1: should be an All Star catcher. Had the brilliant throwdown
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  Speaker 1: to Hobby with the brilliant tag snow cone tag.
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  Speaker 2: Only the two of them could have done that in
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  Speaker 2: that moment.
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  Speaker 1: I'm convinced, and an old baseball like that, that combination
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  Speaker 1: is the only way that could have played out. So
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  Speaker 1: this is the game, Cody, This is the game where
• 4:44
  Speaker 1: it's like, are the Tigers, like really for real? This
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  Speaker 1: is a game that kind of answers that to someone
• 4:50
  Speaker 1: who hasn't been paying attention to baseball yet, as it's
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  Speaker 1: still for a couple of days short of it being
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  Speaker 1: quote summer.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think it's worth noting coming off a
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  Speaker 3: bad way, they felt a little sleepy through the first
• 5:03
  Speaker 3: few innings, right. You mentioned the air Mize. It wasn't bad,
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  Speaker 3: but he wasn't good either, and he you know, got
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  Speaker 3: into some long counts. He's leaving some stuff over the plate.
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  Speaker 3: At one point the Tigers are trailing three two, it's like, oh, man,
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  Speaker 3: really gonna keep sleepwalking. You're really gonna get beat by
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  Speaker 3: the pirates. And then Hovey Bayas woke everyone from their
• 5:24
  Speaker 3: slumber with that first homer, put them on top, and
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  Speaker 3: the Tigers kind of did not look back from there win.
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  Speaker 3: So as we talked about, great game. But yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: mean the Hobby homer was like an emotional turning point,
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  Speaker 3: I thought. And then suddenly, to our caption down here
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  Speaker 3: if you're watching on YouTube, the Tigers are back. It's
• 5:46
  Speaker 3: never quite simple, but that's what it felt like.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and again, like the marginal things were in their
• 5:53
  Speaker 1: favor today. There wasn't anything crazy base running wise, but
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  Speaker 1: they did have like examples of being aggressive on the
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  Speaker 1: base pass. And then even even Perez again we're talking
• 6:02
  Speaker 1: about Margins here. That ball that he slid and scooped
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  Speaker 1: in right field, I mean, he misses that momentum, you know,
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  Speaker 1: ship like you know that that we could be talking
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  Speaker 1: about a different game. But he did get to it,
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  Speaker 1: and he did preserve it as a single, and it
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  Speaker 1: was just and then and then Hobby in addition to
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  Speaker 1: the tag made some you know, fittingly made the last play,
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  Speaker 1: uh that the final out there, So like again, it
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  Speaker 1: was it just had all the elements of being back.
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  Speaker 3: Even where no one is talking about enough Chase Lee
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  Speaker 3: two point one e r. A game is still kind
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  Speaker 3: of close. You need a bridge to the late innings.
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  Speaker 3: Your bullpen has been in rough shape. You know who
• 6:48
  Speaker 3: hasn't been in rough shape? Chase Lee. He's been kind
• 6:51
  Speaker 3: of a godsend because it's been Kanelee vest and then
• 6:56
  Speaker 3: who else are you really confident in on paper the
• 6:59
  Speaker 3: name Chase Maybe not, but every time he goes out there, man,
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  Speaker 3: he's given the Tigers some big innings and even tonight
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  Speaker 3: it was just one, but it was a really important
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  Speaker 3: bridge inning from a guy no one expected anything off
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  Speaker 3: coming into this year.
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  Speaker 1: No, I mean I think he's he's as I don't
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  Speaker 1: know my speaking at a turn here, he's as trusted
• 7:21
  Speaker 1: as anybody not named Mester Canley out of the pen.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like he's definitely part when he's available. He's
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: not just available, he's like part of the plan from
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  Speaker 1: the feeder Hinch perspective. That like, that's the impression I get.
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  Speaker 1: And also another reason that this game like kind of
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  Speaker 1: plays into the you know, the Tigs being back, is
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  Speaker 1: that you know you're up for and it's the eighth inning.
• 7:44
  Speaker 2: What does AJ do? Girls out Canley He's like, I'm
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  Speaker 2: getting to the night of the four run lead. I
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  Speaker 2: don't even care.
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  Speaker 1: Then hannafy uh, you know, metaphorically closes it out. But
• 7:54
  Speaker 1: again AJ four runs close situation in his mind, so
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  Speaker 1: like all the elements were there, and then the maybe
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: we should have known the vibes were good. Cody with
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  Speaker 1: will Vest not going on I l and and being
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  Speaker 1: like it just kind of being thrown around.
• 8:14
  Speaker 2: Is this the word that was used? Scare? Is that?
• 8:16
  Speaker 2: Is that the word that was.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of j said that on the radio early in
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  Speaker 3: the day called it was scare, Well.
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  Speaker 2: What any what kind of update can you kind of
• 8:25
  Speaker 2: give us? Like what was there?
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  Speaker 3: He's not going on the I l this is gonna
• 8:29
  Speaker 3: test our our injuries theory that the first thing we
• 8:34
  Speaker 3: hear is never like right, because I think everyone was
• 8:39
  Speaker 3: very relieved that will Vest is not going on the
• 8:41
  Speaker 3: injured list, right, just something that sounded weird. Threw a pitch,
• 8:45
  Speaker 3: didn't look right, felt something in his pinky finger. It
• 8:49
  Speaker 3: was hard to know what that means, but talking to
• 8:52
  Speaker 3: a couple of people often that's you know, linked to
• 8:54
  Speaker 3: the ulner nerve, which can be linked to a flexer
• 8:57
  Speaker 3: tendon strain, and it's easier for your mind to go there. Well,
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  Speaker 3: will Vest, he ain't going on the aisle. He shows
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  Speaker 3: up as locker, he's joking around, says he feels good.
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  Speaker 3: So he did feel a zing and lost feeling in
• 9:10
  Speaker 3: his bottom two fingers. Still doesn't sound real good to me,
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  Speaker 3: but says, hey, you know, we got checked out. I'm
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  Speaker 3: back to normal. I was talking with Jason Bennetti afterward.
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  Speaker 3: He goes, he goes, I miss will you know, how's
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  Speaker 3: he He's good?
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  Speaker 1: Right?
• 9:25
  Speaker 3: Did he throw, I go, well, We'll said he he tossed,
• 9:29
  Speaker 3: which I think is different than throwing. But Will said
• 9:32
  Speaker 3: he's normal. Then AJ Hinch said he's day to day,
• 9:35
  Speaker 3: which is different than normal. So still I think a
• 9:39
  Speaker 3: little bit weird. But sounds like Will vest is going
• 9:45
  Speaker 3: to be available shortly so when he does pitch, assuming
• 9:49
  Speaker 3: he does pitch again, I'm gonna be keeping a close eye.
• 9:51
  Speaker 3: How's the stuff, how's the mechanics? Is anything off here?
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  Speaker 3: Because I think the vibes were still a little weird,
• 9:58
  Speaker 3: even though for now right here today seems like very
• 10:01
  Speaker 3: good news, all right, And we also once thought we
• 10:05
  Speaker 3: got good news on Jackson joke.
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  Speaker 2: That's true.
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  Speaker 1: Never never go, never go thinking too far ahead. We
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• 10:16
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• 11:32
  Speaker 1: I guess was not like announcement but update which I
• 11:35
  Speaker 1: believe was broken by AJ on his MLB network radio hit.
• 11:38
  Speaker 2: I was this first time it.
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: Was spoken about is that they did go and get
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: a picture in Carlos Hernandez, who, look, we're not gonna
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: give like scouting reports, you know, in depth, but the
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: guy throws hard and it's not always most accurate, but
• 11:56
  Speaker 1: maybe it's something that in the pitching lab they feel
• 11:58
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  Speaker 2: Still I have his age on there.
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah it's twenty eight years old, so still you know,
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: still in his physical prime. He more or less, as
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: it turns out, Will were placed Rebia who obviously was
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: you know, age wise past his prime. So he's another
• 12:15
  Speaker 1: spot in the bullpen to see what Aj and Fedri
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: can do. But at the time you were thinking, oh,
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: well best throws hard and Carlos throws hard, and it's like, well,
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: this might not be the best news, but again we're
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: not getting to it ahead of ourselves. But Carlos Hernandez
• 12:30
  Speaker 1: now member of the Tigers.
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: And then you know a little bit of good news
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: on Alex Laying.
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: Alex Lane went out there in West Michigan through one scoreless,
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: I believe, and watch it. So again no sky report,
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: but that's good because you see Alex Lang you know,
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: around on TV and and all that stuff. But we
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: hadn't really heard that much about him other than the
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: injury reports. And it looks like Matt Berling is gonna be,
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: you know, in his return to play program for you know,
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: all that stuff going in Toledo and and and they
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: seem at least a little bit optimistic that, you know,
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: hopefully this latest thing with his shoulder is behind him.
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: So in terms of arms, Cody and I guess technically
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: hands like things moving in the right direction. After kind
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: of like a week last week between job and then
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: and andvest to Fest to close it out.
• 13:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's good that Tiger's got another arm
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: in here in Carlos Hernandez. They kind of had to
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: do something. On the surface. It kind of feels like
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: just a body to me until they're able to upgrade
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: a little more at the trade deadline. But you never know.
• 13:39
  Speaker 3: Hernandez actually had a pretty good year last season. He
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: had a three three to zero ERA. Yeah, we don't
• 13:45
  Speaker 3: have to go too deep on him, but the strikeout
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: rate is down this year, even for a power reliever.
• 13:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's ever as high as you want.
• 13:52
  Speaker 3: The walker rate is a little bit too high. One
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: thing under the hood, I wonder if the Tiger's like
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: just the percentage of pitches he is throwing that are
• 14:00
  Speaker 3: in the strike zone is actually way up. It's a
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: career high. It's like fifty five percent. So even though
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: the walks are still concerning, he's throwing in the zone more.
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: Now he's giving up a lot of damage on those
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: pitches in the zone. So do you actually feel good
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: about that? How much is that a product of what
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: count you're in? Tough to say, but something to watch.
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: I'll be curious to know if they have any more tweaks,
• 14:23
  Speaker 3: if they can get anything more out of Carlos Hernandez.
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: He's six', four two fifty, Five he's a big, boy
• 14:31
  Speaker 3: throws ninety, seven ninety, eight ninety. NINE i think he's
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  Speaker 3: interesting at the very LEAST.
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: I could deal with interesting for you know that that
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: role in the. Bullpen so, YEAH i mean, again it's
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: a picture you feel confident about What harris and his
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: team identify and then What aj And feder feel like
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: they can. Use so so we'll, see we will see
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: what happens all. Right time for the meat of the,
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: Episode cody and we touched on how a little bit
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: earlier and in the spirit of full disclosure for everybody out.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: There we had kind of planned like this might be
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: kind of The glabor. Episode he just had the two
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: home run game on On. Friday by the, way he
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: had zero two home run games last, season had had
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: one since like Late may twenty twenty. Three you, know
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: that's just some of the research THAT i did THAT
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: I i guess decided to say today BECAUSE i did the,
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: research But i'll have to save it for another. Time
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: and Then hobby hits the home. Run it's, like all,
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: right it's, cool ten year service, Time, Hobby hobby Being.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: Hobby and then he gets the second home. RUN i was,
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: like all, right it's time the. Pivot time the pivot
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: To Hobby, bias who kind, of LIKE i, mean he
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: literally kind of thrust himself into this situation over the
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: course of the. Year but Also cody in The All
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: star voting update which was released On, monday Like i'm
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: looking at. It you, Know glaber's number, one and you
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  Speaker 1: know you Got torque in the mix and Ding leer
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: in the mix and mckinstrey and the, mix and THEN
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  Speaker 1: i look at the outfield spots And hobby is. Fifth
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  Speaker 1: and in terms of people that like kind of, Neat,
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: like don't just automatically get voted for because of name,
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: recognition team and how great they're being this, YEAR i.
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: E Aaron, Judge, like so basically he's fourth because you,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: Know Aaron judge is always going to be number. One so,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: like So hobby is fifth in, outfield which AGAIN i
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: understand how they do, this but like he's technically not
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: what he's technically.
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  Speaker 2: Uh not an outfielder right. Now so so he's fifth
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  Speaker 2: in the.
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  Speaker 1: Outfield and and normally for these Conversations, cody LIKE i
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: look at you know, stats and you know percentiles, this
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: and you know he's done this and and and and
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: that's all well and, good but The hobby thing feels
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: like more of an emotional, play like how he is
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: worth one point eight. War SO i do want to
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: mention that second on the team In war coming into,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: today that chances are that will go up by this time.
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: Tomorrow.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: Uh he is one of baseball's best.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Stories and the and the The Midsummer classic is supposed
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  Speaker 1: to be kind of the tale of the season to that,
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Point and there's an argument to be made that you
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: can't tell the tale of this season to this point
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Without Javier, bias Because Hivier bias, is by at least one,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: metric the most valuable non tek skoubal on the best
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: team in The American. League and he's had plenty of
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: moments that like that will be on the highlight reel
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: for the best plays of the first half and certainly
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: the best plays of The tigers first. Half so like
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: he Feels All star worthy and there are numbers to
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: back it up. Too but like he has Hasn't he's
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: gone through ebbs and, flows but he hasn't like regressed
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: regressed like he like his first home run today was clearly.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: A an intentional home. Run what DO i mean by
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: that is, that like he he he.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Was not trying to go after a fast he was
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: fitting soft and he got it and he didn't miss
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: and and and he had the highlight play today like
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: you mentioned about the know the the cot, stealing and
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: he's had plenty in center field as. Well and you,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: know here's my, uh here's my message To Aaron, boone
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: who will be managing this. Team you, know If hobby's
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: on The All star, team it's gonna make your job
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: a lot easier because you can put him anywhere but.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Catcher.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Pitcher, yeah you, know he probably have to borrow somebody's
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: first base was am but like he could he could
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: play anywhere on the field except for picture, Catcher so
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: you could just throw him out there and just make
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: everything work around, him which is somewhat of.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Like what he's been able to do with The.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Tigers and then also like there are these like notions
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: that we've talked about him, too where it's, like you,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: know The tigers need to, upgrade you, know or where
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: can they? Upgrade at the trade? Deadline and you, know
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: shortstop gets thrown around a, lot and then he has
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: a day like, today and then you look at some
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: of these other, metrics it's, LIKE i don't know if
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: you need, to you, know, upgrade you know at, shortstop you.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: Know so Like trout's ahead of.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Them mad respect To Matt Mike. Trout he's coming back from.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Injury he's a point two war.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: Player you. Know Quan Is.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Kwan i'm not gonna say a Bad i'm not gonna
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: say a bad thing About. Kwan and Then Riley green
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: being number two is actually really cool AND i wish
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: that we were and we probably should be talking about
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: that a little bit more. Today but the hobby thing
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: that this, is but that's an example of What i'm talking,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: about is like the hobby story just kind of consumes
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: everything because it's so, fun it's so, unexpected and it
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: plays into like why baseball is beautifully, unpredictable because who
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: would have, thought who would have, Thought cody that that
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: we'd be having this Conversation and, again they're gonna find
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: better people with better percentiles and better numbers this and
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: better numbers that you're not going to find a guy
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: with a better story and a more fun playing style
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: and has the reputation of being like highly respected on
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: top of, everything so like it feels ohso fitting that
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: he could be and in my opinion it should be
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: An All.
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: STAR i Think Kvey bias is going to make The ulcer.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: Game AND i definitely would not have said that before the,
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: Season AND i don't know IF i would have said
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: that even ten days. AGO i, mean he was he
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: was starting to, slide, man he was looking like it
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: was pretty, rough and he's picked it back. Up last fifteen,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: days he's in three twenty. One last seven, days he
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: has over eight hundred. Ops, today we obviously saw what he.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Did we know what the war is his defensive. Value
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: there's a decent statistical. Case and we've talked before about
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: how popular of a Player hobby, is not just In,
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: detroit In chicago And Puerto, rico all over the. World
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: tigers fans have done a good job showing out in
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: the voting For Riley green to be number. TWO i
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: like that For Spencer toorglesing to be right There. Detroit
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: detroit fans have showed up and put their players right
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: there in Consideration, HOBBY i, think especially if he continues
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: to perform for the next couple of weeks in the,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: outfield where you're gonna be able to send a lot of,
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: guys think twenty position players make the. ROSTER i THINK
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: i Think hovey's gonna make, it and that would be pretty.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Remarkable you, KNOW i was last, YEAR i you, know
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: went to the you, know THE mlb fan. Experience it's
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: around The All Star game and they have different like
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: kind of lit up pictures posters of guys around the
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: league and for the most, part their stars or you,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: know we're literally all. Stars Now i'm, Walking i'm looking
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: at them and.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: There's. Hobby you, Know Bregady news last year at this,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: time he was not playing like An All.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Star uh, so so like that's an example though of
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: just like the power Of hobby buys is that like
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: even when he was like a you, know quite frankly
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: a bad player at the, time like he was on what,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: was you, know not a good team at the, Time
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: like he was still a guy that the marketing team
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: In Major League baseball, said we got to put a
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: big ass poster Of hobby up there because it's gonna
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: be visually appealing to.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: Everybody so, like, again.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: There are stats, there this or, that the story itself
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: is it almost feels like the only way can end
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: is that we get to, say in the year twenty twenty,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Five Hobby bias was An All. Star and again we
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: talked about this after The boston. Game there's an argument
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: to be, MADE i, know school, school but there's an
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: argument to be made that like is he like YOUR. Mvp,
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: well statistically, speaking he he's pretty, close if, not if
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: not the, guy if you just want to give it,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: to you, know give the nods to someone who plays every,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: day and he's more or less had to replace two
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: guys that The tigers were confident and thinking that they
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: were gonna be everyday. Players now for different Reasons sweeney And,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: parker he has had to fill in that role and.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: AND i think he's in AND i think he's an.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Example all the puff pieces before the, game like all
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: that stuff kind of matters with like the marking of the.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Game there's not a shortage of angles for the national
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: media to consume and do For. Hobby so, uh it's
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: it's hard for me to come up with reasons not
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: because the flashes there where the value is, there and
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: the overall story arc is too good to.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: Refuse so that's my case with. You i'm in on
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: it all, Right and we'll get to.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: Another thing THAT i think kind of Makes hobby look
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: a little bit better given what he's been through with this.
• 24:18
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• 25:26
  Speaker 1: HERE i did think it was Worthy cody for us
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: to give a little bit of analysis or localized thoughts
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: on the biggest story of the baseball season and one
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: that really kind of hung, over you, know one of
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: baseball's most marquee franchises in The Boston Red, sox and
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: that's Obviously Rafael devers being traded from The Red sox
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: to The. Giants and you, know when that trade, HAPPENED
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: i had my in laws, over my parents, over my brother,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: over AND i.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Was, like, man that was The. Tigers you guys won't
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: see me for a couple.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Hours so so shout out to everybody who was working
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: on all the followers that were working On Father's day.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: With that surprise. Trade BUT.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I GUESS i guessed to start, Out, cody you, know
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: what were kind of your, thoughts, uh initially and then you,
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: know kind of you, know a couple of days, later
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: what did you what did you think about About devers
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: being Dealt.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: It's IT'S.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: I think the.
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: TRADE i think The Red sox didn't get enough in.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: RETURN i also thinking about three years, time they were
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: going to be very glad they do not have that.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: CONTRACT i was pretty stunned there was another team willing
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: to take on that. Contract for anyone who thinks The
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: tigers should have Got, DEVS i. DISAGREE i just don't
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: think you want to be saddled with that for the
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: next nine. Years it's. CRAZY i just don't think it's
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: a good. Contract but The Red sox didn't get enough in.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Return it was just aly managed situation from the. Start
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: i'm not a fan Of devors not just being willing
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: to go to first base OR dh or. Whatever. Like come, on,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: Dude i'm sure it's from what we, know there's some.
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: Dysfunction probably was not communicated well to. HIM i do
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: think that situation would not happen on The. TIGERS i
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: don't think A. J hinch would allow it to become
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: that sort of. MESS i think it would have been
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: communicated to the player better from the. Start BUT i
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Think devers should have just done what was best for
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: the team and gotten and played some first base and.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: Whatever but that's not what. Happened and so now here
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: we are and he's going to play first base for The,
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: giants by the, way which is kind of. Hilarious what's
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: the big? Lesson, YEAH i don't. Know don't sign guys
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: who are eventually going to Be DH's to nine year
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: contracts is one. Lesson foster an environment where you have
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: good communication with your players is another? Lesson what do you, Got?
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Kieren what do you feel in? This because it's a
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: bad look for The Red, Sox.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: BUT I i'm never okay so, Like i've never understood
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: what The Red sox were trying to. Do and the
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: reason why this is actually really relevant for The tigers
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: in general is that The Red sox WERE i, mean
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: they just swept The yankees like they you, know gotten
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: above five. Hundred, obviously the young talent speaks for. Itself
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: this was very much a case where it's, like you,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: know could this be a you, know either wild card
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: or like the visional round, opponent you know for The,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Tigers like this was something that was you, know very
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: much on the. Table in fact that right now they're
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: in the postseason or at least coming into today during the.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: Postseason so, uh the thing is like you, AGAIN i
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: don't follow, them follow them LIKE i do The. Tigers
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: but it's like you screw up The bets negotiation and
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: wherever you screwed it, up and you deal them, away
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: you screw up The bogart's negotiation and however you screwed that,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: up and then he signs and you get nothing back for,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: him and then you kind of make this reactionary move
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: to Sign devers out of respect probably the least best
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: long term bet physically of the three.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Of, them probably Little bart want that contract.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Right, right but they could have gone for like half
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: if they haven't done it the year. Before so, like in,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: fact you saw bloom whenever that the deal went, DOWN i.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: BELIEVE i think it was like during winter meetings or whatever, anyway.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: So like it felt really reactionary because at FIRST i was,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: like all, right well you Trade devers and.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Then you kind of do this rebuild.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Thing but, no they signed them to the long term
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: and then they you, know just this past, offseason they
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: tray For crochet and then they give him the, extension
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: and then they Signed bregman to like a relatively unique
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: contract in its, structure and it's, like, okay well they're
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: like going forward to and Then coray doesn't want to
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: play the young, players and the we see like the
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: front office wants the young guys in, there and it's
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: just like all these like tensions that are pulling apart
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: from WHAT i WHAT i consider good. Direction so LIKE
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: I i do actually have some like lessons THAT i
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: think The tigers have either like you, know avoided or
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: like actively worked.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: To not be in that. Situation one of them is, Synergy.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Like like all the stuff that we're reading about the
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: RED sox right. Now you, know you KNOW i love
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: this too because you always tell whose side is like?
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: Leaking what? NOW i love this? Stuff.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: Uh it kind of reads like the fictional front, office
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: the manager's, office conflict And.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Moneyball it's kind of what it reads.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: Like whereas Like coorra isn't necessarily in line with everything
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: that Reslo is is, doing so like. It it feels
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: like it does not feel like a cohesive unit like
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: The tigers have shown in The harris. Regime and you,
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: know to be, honest like Oh aj And al got
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: along fine or, whatever they were just too. Different but
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: like They aj was able to get a lot of
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: what he wanted in terms of the direction of the.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Team so for THE i just wanted to say that
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: for the, Record but him And scott, obviously you, know
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: a lot more closer in line power and. Balance this
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: is obviously something That tigers have not had to experience
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: for a long, time where you have a guy in
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: his prime on this big contract and and and he
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: kind of holds a little bit of statutorial. POWER i
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: know that's not a real, word but you understand What i'm.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: Saying and there's like an ANECDOTE i hope people don't
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: get upset about.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: This BUT i read this in A STEPHEN.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: A smith profile years, ago and he was relaying something
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: That Donald trump had told him way pre. Presidency so
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: maybe they'll run for president against each other and this
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: will come up. Again but, Basically Donald trump said that you,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: know if you if the bank loans you one hundred
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars and you can't pay, it then that's a you.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Problem if the bank own loans you ten million dollars
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: and you can't pay, it then it's both yell's. Problem
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: AND i think that analogy kind of makes makes sense
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: here because if If Jace, young WHICH i assume he
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: was probably.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Like, hey AM i gonna be way a third? Base
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: like DO i have a role and blah blah.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Blah If Jace young is wondering like are you gonna
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: Sign Alex, bregman it's kind of A Jace young. Problem
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: but If Rafiel dever's in his ten, year three hundred
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: and twenty five million dollars whatever year, contract uh is,
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: like hey AM i going to play third? Base and
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: you Sign Alex, bregman it's kind of a both of y'all, problem,
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: Right so like so like the whole power and balance
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: THERE i think definitely played a role in the lack
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: of communication and blah blah. Blah and then the direction
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: THING i already spoke.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: About. Uh and then also words, matter, Man.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Like you know you're a, writer you know, This like words,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: matter like what we say like it. Matters and like
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: The Alex core quote remember this in spring training where
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: he was, like, yeah you Know devers was you, know
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: people ask him About devers being promised to beel you,
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: know play third base when he signed his, extension And dever's, like,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: well that's the previous front office or you know something
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: close to, that which you, know it's just kind of
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: like an off putting thing to, say all, right like words.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Matter that obviously Bothered, devers like among other things that Bothered.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Devers and then, also you know during this uh there
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: zoom conference like twenty four hours later after the, Trade
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: craig is, like, YEAH i think we're gonna like win
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: more games now post. Trade and it's, like, dude like,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: there you can't say, That like you can't say that
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: after trading your franchise. Player who's the best designated hitter in?
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Baseball like like and for what you got, back, like you,
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: know maybe some guys might turn out to be, okay
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: even this year with the, pitching but, like.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: No like, no it's not a.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: Thing like In, boston they look like that's as passionate
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: fan base as there.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Is they know. Baseball you can't lie to them like.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: That you.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Know imagine If Scott harris was, like, yeah we traded
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: Away Carson kelly and And Jack flaherty And Andrew, chaffin
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: and uh, YEAH i think because of those, moves we're
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: gonna win more.
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: Games it's like what. Now of course you know they turned,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: out but he was not saying.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: That he was not he was not saying, that and
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: like and so like it just does not feel like
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: a well to do. Operation there's been more stuff, about
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: like baseball executives doing five rounds of of job interviews
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: via A i only like all this like weird, Stuff
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: like it just it feels like a broken system is
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: what they're. Doing and it's not just because they're winning right.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Now we've been saying this for a, while even when
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: they weren't winning as many. Games The tigers have a
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  Speaker 1: fully functional system and it's never shown itself to be that.
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  Speaker 1: Way more than is right, now and you can go
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  Speaker 1: all the way down the farm system to get that.
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  Speaker 1: Indication so like that that's the big thing for. ME
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  Speaker 1: i didn't want to do like should they have traded and,
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: like you, know assess, this assess that we all know
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: the reasons why that wouldn't necessarily be a. Thing but
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: if you want to, say, like, well how are we
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  Speaker 1: different than The Red, SOX i think those THINGS i
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: just laid out there would be the prime examples of
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  Speaker 1: that for.
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  Speaker 3: SURE i don't think The tigers are. PERFECT i think
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  Speaker 3: other parts of the organization there are plenty of. ISSUES
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: i think the baseball, stuff the big stuff right now
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  Speaker 3: they're getting. RIGHT i think synergy you, mentioned we know
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  Speaker 3: the synergy between the clubhouse and the front office seems
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: to be pretty. Good we'll see WHAT i happens when
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  Speaker 3: some of these guys get a little, older get a
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: little more money in their, pockets go through arbitration. Whatever
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  Speaker 3: it's not that. EASY i don't think the point here say,
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  Speaker 3: oh The tigers are so great they would never have any.
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  Speaker 3: Problems BUT i do think they would not have had this.
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  Speaker 3: Problem so the, POINT i don't know if there's a
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  Speaker 3: big takeaway The tigers should have from, this you, KNOW
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  Speaker 3: i think maybe that's my, Takeawak like it's ook a
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  Speaker 3: unique perfect storm to create this weird situation that leads
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  Speaker 3: to one of the oddest and maybe worst baseball trades
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  Speaker 3: we've seen in a.
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  Speaker 1: WHILE i will, like And i'll just kind of wrap
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  Speaker 1: it up like, This like if The tigers were let's
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  Speaker 1: just say they were middling around five hundred at this,
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  Speaker 1: time and then they like up and trade At schoogle
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  Speaker 1: like in that, fashion there would be that the same
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  Speaker 1: kind of.
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  Speaker 2: Reaction there would be that kind of uproar and again not.
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  Speaker 1: Apples to, apples but just like the art of dealing
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  Speaker 1: a you, know an all star like he's he's An
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: All star Player Rafael devers in that, fashion and then
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  Speaker 1: handling it the way that they. Did, no we're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna Sign. Bregnant, okay, yeah but he's gonna play second.
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  Speaker 1: Base actually he's gonna play third. Base so you're just gonna, dh, hey,
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  Speaker 1: actually can you play first? Base poor communication and poorly
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  Speaker 1: handled by a team That, like, again if you had
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  Speaker 1: all that kind of, synergy you're probably not in this.
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  Speaker 1: Situation and, also by the, way you probably didn't have
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  Speaker 1: to trade. Him you probably could just rode it out
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  Speaker 1: and just.
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  Speaker 3: Like couldn't do it in the, offseason couldn't wait till the,
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  Speaker 3: deadline couldn't do it right before the season.
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  Speaker 1: When you had like an idea of what your team would,
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  Speaker 1: be you. Know so so, YEAH i mean crazy times all.
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  Speaker 1: AROUND i couldn't imagine celebrating a sweep of the of.
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  Speaker 2: The yankees and then and then dealing WITH i literally
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  Speaker 2: thought it was.
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  Speaker 1: FAKE i had similar reaction to The luca trade WHERE
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  Speaker 1: i was, like all, RIGHT i gotta verify this with
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  Speaker 1: like eight sources BEFORE i comment on. IT i literally said,
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  Speaker 1: like holy you, KNOW i Got Red sox fans in the.
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