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[Ep 18] What Doctors Aren’t Saying About Seed Oils | Rob Vasquez & Randy Johns · Age Defiantly with Mark Young

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  Welcome to Performance Driven Living, the podcast where we question everything.
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  We are here at the Performance Driven Living podcast, and we are doing our last podcast
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  at the Dave Aspery Biohacking Expo here in Austin, Texas.
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  I think we're in Austin now.
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  We are in Austin now.
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  We are in Austin now.
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  I'm going to say Dallas, Texas.
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  They're for a minute.
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  There's a little Dallas in the room here, right?
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  We are from Dallas and you're the fence.
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  Yeah, I think that's what was called, but I am joined here.
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  I'm actually going to read this, guys, because I say that I'm going to introduce you, but
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  my team always writes the best intros.
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  Okay.
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  This is good.
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  This is actually the names, right?
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  No, no, not normally.
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  My team always writes these amazing intros, and I always say on the show, like, I would
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  not give you the justice that they do.
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  Now this particular time I'm laughing, because you were kind of like this last minute
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  addition into the calendar.
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  I think there was a misfire, which is cracking me up, so they put the wrong names in, which
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  is hilarious to me, because I've known these guys for ages.
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  I'm going to actually put your real names in here if that's okay.
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  I am joined today by Randy Johns and Rob Vasquez, collectively known as the Happy Healthy
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  Guys.
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  These guys have helped restore thousands of people's energy, helped them lose weight
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  and reverse chronic issues using a simple, natural, and empowering approach to health.
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  Fair?
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  Absolutely.
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  Love it.
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  Yeah.
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  That's the fact that they called you Dr. Derek W and Dr. Derry.
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  Not even offended at all.
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  I'm sure those were really nice gentlemen.
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  I need to know which one is Gary and which one is Derek?
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  No, that's fine.
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  I'm going to go Derek.
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  I'm going to go Derek.
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  I wish you would know from my last name and his last name, which one was Axie, which,
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  if you didn't have those other names on there.
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  I don't know.
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  I mean, Derek and Gary, oh, I'm saying he looks like a Vasquez, right?
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  No.
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  Yeah, exactly.
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  He doesn't at all.
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  It's just Gary Dobby.
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  I know.
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  That may be true.
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  Well, you kind of look like Derek Huffle a little bit.
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  Okay.
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  So like maybe you are Derek, aren't you?
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  I'm not sure.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  What's the main side of the scene?
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  What's the name of Derek Lee?
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  Derek Lee.
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  The boy Ben Stiller.
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  Yeah.
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  Derek Lee.
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  Derek Lee, don't do that.
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  So far too fashionable to be making Zoolander jokes, I'm just saying.
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  So these are the most fashionable male models in all of longevity of guys so excited to sit
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  down and chat here with you guys.
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  You guys do some incredible work, truthfully, and I know your hearts for what you do, which
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  makes it more impressive.
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  And one of the things that I will say this, and I mean this in all sincerity to anybody
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  listening, there's a lot of there's a lot of people in the biohacking space and I often
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  will use this.
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  And again, not that this show is about biohacking specifically, but health is a part of my focus.
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  And obviously that's going to be a lot of where my contacts and where my friends are.
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  So that makes up a lot of our show.
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  The show is really about me learning things and other people just get to watch and learn
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  along.
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  But one of the things that impresses me most about you guys is in a space longevity biohacking
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  so on, so forth, which tends to be a weird space and I've often said that it has two categories
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  of people.
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  There's either the people that are so scientific that they lose everybody else or they're
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  so spiritual that they've lost themselves.
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  Wow.
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  Interesting.
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  Yeah.
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  And there's so few people who stand in the middle.
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  And you guys stand in the middle.
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  And it's like you understand science, you're smart beyond anything, you completely understand
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  you're both doctors.
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  You understand this kind of stuff and can have as many technical conversations in the
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  medical field, but you're also people who have a spiritual bent, but not a spiritual bent
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  that is so lost in mysticism, but a genuine faith in Jesus and a Christian faith.
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  And it's like, and I think that people like that I admire because I think in this space
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  in particular holding that ground is tough.
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  It is tough.
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  In fact, even it's interesting that you brought that up because we were being interviewed
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  last night for a magazine downstairs and they were asking us whether or not we felt like
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  biohacking was a religion.
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  And it was an interesting question because you could see where people have made it their
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  religion, but I think that also, it also depends on what your definition of a religion
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  even is.
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  I want to side with our real quick and come back to that.
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  Brian Johnson, okay, and I don't know Brian personally, so I'm not saying anything negative
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  or whatever, but Brian Johnson made a comment recently.
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  I don't know if you saw that and he said his main competition is Jesus.
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  And I was like, I don't think you're on a competition, I don't think that's a big competition.
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  I don't think this is, you don't want to get in that fight.
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  I was like, your goal is to never die.
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  He actually did it and came back, exactly, exactly, you better test your hip-hop.
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  This is a lot prior to going in there and you hear lightning starting to crackle.
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  But you mentioned, you know, his biohacking a religion and that was the first thing that
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  came to my mind was this comment about my competition as Jesus and I'm like, whoa, like
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  there was so much scumble but around that about, because I think that gives a bad name
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  to the biohacking industry.
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  I do, because I don't think it is about that and I'll say, my bent is I want to live
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  the healthiest, most vibrant, energetic life I know how to and I believe in biofuels and
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  I believe in vibrational effects and I believe all of that stuff is cool and in fact, yesterday
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  I forget who I was talking to but it's this conversation that all of these science people
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  are saying stuff and all of these religious people are saying stuff and I'm like, I've
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  got science degrees and I've got theology degrees and I'm standing in the middle of this
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  conversation going, y'all are saying the same thing, like you're saying that this is
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  all energy field and I'm saying, yeah, did you know his name?
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  And you're saying that this is all about high vibration and I'm like, hello.
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  And you're saying that there's power in the words that people speak and I'm like,
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  hmm, in the beginning, and I'm like, yeah, guys, you're all saying the same thing, like
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  you're here, you're here and I'm like, we both need to get here because that just makes
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  a lot of sense and finding people literally like brothers and arms who are like, yeah,
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  we believe in all this science and longevity but the reason why my focus and I believe
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  yours too and comment on that afterwards, but my focus in wanting to live a long, vibrant
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  passionate life is as Michael Fishman will always say and I give him credit every time
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  I quote it and that is the currency of success is impact.
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  And the success I want to have in life is leaving this place a better place than I found
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  it and I can't do that crippled and I can't do that obese and I can't do that unhealthy
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  because to misquote Bobby Kennedy, a man has 100 dreams when he has no problems but the
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  minute he has one problem, he has only one dream.
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  That you guys are making people healthy again, one at a time, hey, we are and I got really
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  bad news for the biohacking community, we're all going to die true that.
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  So let's take that off the table, right?
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  It's really right not to be colloquial but are you going to live and that's really should
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  be the focus and where I think Rob and I and yourself fit into the spaces, listen, we're
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  dying longer, we're living shorter, nobody even knows what health is and there's no
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  foundation knowing that you're not broken, you're not genetically programmed to be sick
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  that God did make you to be healthy.
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  I mean, first John 4 or 4 says greater is he that is in you than he that's in the world
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  and it's not even a religious statement because we already know it's an immutable law that
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  our body heals itself.
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  That is the foundation is really the key principle that everybody has to know because if you don't
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  know that, you don't know how to ask the right questions, how to get the right answers
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  and get the right solutions.
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  110% and one of the journeys that I've been on lately and I'm in it, I'll tell you guys,
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  we haven't really caught up on this but it somebody asked me recently, like, you know,
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  I'm doing a podcast performance, you're living all about me learning new things and talking
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  to experts and like because I just have this insatiable curiosity to know things I don't
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  already know and I'll say like somebody asked like, well, what are you learning?
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  And I'm like, honestly, like, I think I'm doing more unlearning right now that I am learning.
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  Oh, that's yeah, I'm on that same journey.
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  Yeah.
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  I love what you just said.
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  I'm on that exact same journey.
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  Yeah.
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  I think I'm unlearning things faster than I'm learning them.
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  How quickly can you do it will be the greatest skill set you'll ever possess, right?
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  My word.
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  Yes.
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  How quickly can you unlearn everything that you thought you believed because there's
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  there's so much and especially having conversations in quantum spaces and all this other kind
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  of stuff like, okay, that is possible.
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  I need to stop discarding that.
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  I need to stop discarding that.
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  I need to stop ruling that out.
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  I don't need to cling so tightly to this and how much do we just that we think we know
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  that we really don't?
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  And those I think are the beliefs we hold most closely, right?
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  Because we know they're indefensible.
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  Yeah.
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  So they're beliefs, right?
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  They can't falsify it.
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  But we build weird barriers around them and those weird barriers are the harder ones
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  to take down.
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  And I'm like, so that's the stuff that I'm trying to hold less loosely to, or more loosely
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  to, less tightly to, in a way that it's like, what can I, what can I, what can I,
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  unlearn that makes me do this?
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  And so much of that, truthfully, is around this whole concept of in the biohacking space,
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  science has gotten us so far.
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  And every single time somebody says something, I'm like, uh-huh, yet back here, this existed
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  and now we just discovered it.
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  Like, nothing.
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  Wait a minute.
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  Like, I'm having this conversation with Philip on Holtzledor failing, you know, Philip
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  absolutely.
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  Absolutely.
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  And I'm having this, huh?
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  Incredible technology.
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  Amazing guy.
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  Great technology.
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  I got my legal quantum.
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  I know, man.
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  I don't.
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  But I've got this for Holtz, you know, but there's frequencies in here.
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  I just believe it.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  But I'm having this conversation with Philip in this whole conversation I had with him,
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  like, a while back was all about bio fields and how the energy that we emit in the world
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  is the same energy that we received because like attracts, like, and so on and so forth.
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  I'm like, like, Philip, like, I can't disagree with that.
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  I'm like, we're all energy and we do emit energy and we literally can measure vibrational
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  patterns and I'll get there in a minute because there's, I'd love to get your thoughts
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  on something.
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  But, you know, we're going through this and then as I'm unpacking this later, I'm talking
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  to somebody else this week and I'm like, so wait a minute, the energy, literal physical
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  measurable energy that I'm emitting on a regular basis, whether through positivity, whether
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  through negativity, whether through speaking negatively over my life, like, so on and so
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  forth.
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  I'm like, is exactly what I attract them?
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  Like, so let me get this straight.
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  I'm like, so do unto others as you would have them do unto you is actually a science lesson
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  today.
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  Is that accurate?
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  And the person that I was talking to at the time was just like, yeah, I mean, yeah, actually
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  yes.
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  Because from a quantum energetic standpoint, if I'm kind to you, you're kind back.
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  Like, that's scientific.
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  Like, if I'm angry to you, you get angry back.
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  Like, we're proving that through energy fields.
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  And I'm like, so maybe this wasn't just do nice things and nice things or happen.
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  Like, maybe that literally was a science lesson from God going guys, like, I figured this
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  not a long time ago.
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  Like, does that make sense?
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  Like, is that too weird?
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  We're like, am I trying to oversimplify the world?
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  Not oversimplifying at all.
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  Sounds a lot more simple than me, right?
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  Yeah, absolutely.
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  That's really what it's all about, too, is even just for here's where we got to get people
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  to understand as well as how to really ask better questions so that they can be able
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  to be healthier, but really take a look in the mirror at themselves and say, hey, you know
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  what?
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  I'm the person who's responsible for my own health.
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  I can take agency for my health and do exactly what you were saying in that unlearning or
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  letting go or surrender and stop trying to control it with all of these different gadgets
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  that are all over the place that we just saw this last weekend because you're trying
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  to control it rather than just let go and any, I mean, we've all heard that the saying
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  and not to be cheesy about it, but you know, let go and let God.
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  Well, God did give us the sun.
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  He did give us the earth.
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  Take your shoes off and go walk around around the ground.
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  Go do some sun gazing.
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  You can meditate in nature.
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  We don't need to somehow fabricate all of these different things that God's already given
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  us.
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  It's right there.
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  So if we can be able to, again, look in the mirror, take agency for our own health and
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  not depend on those things to make us healthy, depend on the inner wisdom that God's
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  already given us that's on the inside.
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  How cool is that?
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  We already have it.
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  And so just let go and allow that power to be able to heal us.
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  I think we would be so much better off if I had quit doing the damage.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  We're talking about always needing healing.
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  I'm like, you know, there's a way to not need to be healing as much.
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  We're healing.
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  We'll pick about that.
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  That's a great point.
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  Listen, this is a huge thing for me.
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  It's like we don't need more healing when God made us in his image, fearfully and
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  wonderfully made.
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  He didn't leave anything out.
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  The prayer isn't God heal me.
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  The prayer is God.
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  Give me the wisdom to show me where I'm interfering and getting in the way of the healing process.
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  That's a completely different conversation because praying for healing means on some
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  level.
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  Maybe I'm a victim to whatever you want to throw out there.
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  My genes, my age, you know, I don't know.
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  Microscopic germ that nobody can see that's invading and hijacking my cellular DNA and making
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  me sick.
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  Maybe it's a garbage poker hand, all of those victim statements that we own and we take
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  responsive or we don't take responsibility for.
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  Maybe it isn't any more simple than going away to second.
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  I don't need to be praying for more healing.
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  God, show me.
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  How do I begin to take better care of the vessel that you gave me, right?
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  One of the best ways to worship God if we're going to talk about a religion is honor
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  God with your body and He does give us all the things that we need.
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  I think the journey towards finding more healing may be a journey headed in the wrong direction
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  because we really don't know what health is going back to what I talked about earlier.
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  That way to second, health and disease are the exact same thing.
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  The body doing the right thing under the circumstances.
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  What is the role that you're playing in your circumstances?
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  That's a painful conversation sometimes because it's easier to outsource and turn it over
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  and blame something else when maybe we're the problem.
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  It's in full disclaimer.
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  Y'all are going to church here in a minute.
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  Oh man.
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  Well, I love you.
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  You have this conversation.
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  He falls or turn it off.
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  That's all this goes.
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  So this absolutely kills me because yes, I absolutely love that and I agree with you
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  because that's one of the best things that we can do for our own health is get out
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  of the way.
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  Like just get out of the way.
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  Like your body knows, your body was made to live.
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  What do we say is chiropractors, right?
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  The body does not need help any healing.
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  It needs no interference.
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  Correct.
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  Right.
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  Let it do what it knows how to do.
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  You got it.
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  Get out of the way.
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  And somebody, I forget who it was, I guess talking to somebody, I want to say, you guys
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  know Sandy Martin.
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  Sandy Martin.
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  I don't know.
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  She runs the biohacking expo down in Miami like she's like, she's a lover, a lover to
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  death.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  We were talking about something and she was talking about her cousin, she's a good friend
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  and her cousin had called her and was just like, I need to, then I'm taking this supplement.
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  Tell me what your thought is on it so on and so forth and she's got a big mouth like
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  the rest of us, right?
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  And he's just like, I'm talking about this like, what do you think?
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  And she looked and she went, look, I'm just going to be real honest with you.
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  You literally drive through McDonald's every day and I know that.
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  Please put the supplement away.
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  Yes.
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  There is no reason.
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  Wow, that's strong.
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  For you to be worried about which supplement you need until you put the big Mac down,
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  don't, don't call me about supplements because I'm not going to tell you that a supplement
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  is effective because you're counteracting anything it does and I'm not going to look
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  like I gave bad advice.
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  And I was like, that's good.
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  All right, let's do it wrong.
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  But it is.
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  It's like quit doing the damage.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  And if you know, stop doing that too and don't be afraid to take charge of your own health
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  as well.
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  And I think fear also stops a lot of people.
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  For example, we were at lunch earlier in at when we ordered they asked, do you have any
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  allergies?
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  If you don't.
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  Seed or 100%.
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  So we say seed oil.
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  So he comes back and he goes, okay, everything we don't cook with any seed oil.
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  Megos, however, these dishes right here, they do have a combination of olive oil and vegetable
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  oil.
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  We're like, vegetable, that is seed oil, no seed oil.
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  So then he comes back and I think there were two things on the entire menu that we could
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  be able to have.
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  But it just makes you think that how many people have been there and just took their word
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  for it.
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  And we're like, or didn't even ask.
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  Or didn't even ask the question and we're like, well, okay.
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  So even when after he was finished waiting on us, he's like, you know what, I just wanted
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  to say thank you.
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  I learned so much from you guys today.
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  I would serve and wait on you any time.
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  So how many, how many people do that?
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  I literally, this team's heard this conversation this week already.
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  Okay.
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  The, I went to dinner.
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  We went to ocean prime.
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  Yeah.
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  Big restaurant.
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  All over the place.
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  New one just opened in Fort Lauderdale and I went to dinner with David all red.
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  If you know, you know, David.
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  Yeah.
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  The dry farm.
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  Absolutely.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  So David and I are at dinner and server comes by and I'm like, well, this salad sounds
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  really good.
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  And I'm like, but can I ask you, it's some fancy name and the dressing that's like, you
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  know, the house paradise dressing or something.
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  I'm like, yeah.
• 18:59
  Can you find out what's in that before you bring me in?
• 19:02
  You know, it's seed oil.
• 19:03
  You know.
• 19:04
  I'm suspecting.
• 19:05
  But sometimes it's some fancy vinaigrette thing and I'm like, can I just ask firsthand?
• 19:10
  Not a problem.
• 19:11
  Okay.
• 19:12
  The reason is I have an allergy to seed oils and I just want to make sure that none of
• 19:16
  that everybody does.
• 19:17
  Everybody.
• 19:18
  Yeah.
• 19:19
  Exactly.
• 19:20
  So I'm just saying everybody does.
• 19:21
  And he's just like, oh, we don't make anything here with seed oil.
• 19:24
  And I went really like, I didn't know that.
• 19:26
  Actually, I thought that what actually would have been a bigger part of your marketing.
• 19:30
  Like there's a restaurant that just opened it down the street that literally promotes
• 19:33
  no seed oils in the restaurant.
• 19:35
  I'm like, that's amazing.
• 19:36
  I didn't know that about ocean prime.
• 19:37
  Oh, yes.
• 19:38
  But I'll confirm with the chef for you.
• 19:40
  Yep.
• 19:41
  Great.
• 19:42
  But later our salads come out and I'm like, comes by and I'm like, but I got a question
• 19:48
  for him.
• 19:49
  Like, my salad came in.
• 19:50
  I'm like, it looks amazing.
• 19:51
  Interesting.
• 19:52
  And I'm like, can you do me a favor?
• 19:55
  Like, did you, I checked with the chef for you and I'm like, oh, okay.
• 19:58
  Did you?
• 19:59
  And he's just like, yes.
• 20:00
  Again, no seed oils.
• 20:01
  This dressing is actually made with canola oil.
• 20:03
  There you go.
• 20:04
  It's a story.
• 20:05
  Yes.
• 20:06
  Organic canola oil.
• 20:08
  And I went, canola oil.
• 20:10
  And he's like, yes.
• 20:11
  Canola oil is not a seed oil.
• 20:13
  Canola oil is made out of corn.
• 20:15
  Oh, wow.
• 20:16
  And I looked at him.
• 20:17
  I went, okay.
• 20:18
  But like, he said he's the wrong person.
• 20:19
  I want to help you.
• 20:20
  I'm like, canola oil is literally made from rapeseed.
• 20:24
  Exactly.
• 20:25
  It just doesn't sound as literally like we can Google this for you.
• 20:28
  If you've got a russic acid, heart toxin, nobody buys rapeseed oil.
• 20:34
  So they call it canola.
• 20:35
  It markets better.
• 20:36
  Yeah.
• 20:37
  And he's like, I mean, yeah, I don't want this.
• 20:40
  I'm like, thank you, but I'm not going to eat it.
• 20:42
  Yeah.
• 20:43
  And that's why I asked you to check before you went and made the salad, right?
• 20:45
  So that, in fact, they did end up going replacing the salad and brought me like olive oil
• 20:49
  with vinegar.
• 20:50
  Yeah.
• 20:51
  I pretended that they don't cut most olive oils with, with some other kind of oil, make
• 20:54
  it cheaper.
• 20:55
  But you thought some more powerful than reality.
• 20:57
  So all the truth.
• 20:58
  And I was like, there's no idea.
• 20:59
  But with the point of the same story, same story.
• 21:02
  And it's like, because people just don't know.
• 21:05
  Yeah.
• 21:06
  And these are servers at nice restaurants.
• 21:07
  Yeah.
• 21:08
  And they did.
• 21:09
  Yeah.
• 21:10
  Yeah.
• 21:11
  Absolutely.
• 21:12
  They don't know the answers.
• 21:13
  And they mean, well, they don't know.
• 21:14
  They're just like another BS question from a crazy customer, right?
• 21:18
  And I said to them, I'm like, I don't mean to sound awful with this.
• 21:20
  I'm like, now, fortunately, I'm like, I really don't have an allergic reaction to
• 21:24
  seed oil, but I choose to keep it out of my body because it's very unhealthy.
• 21:27
  Right.
• 21:28
  And I'm like, but God forbid, I actually had a real allergy to somebody and you handed
• 21:32
  me an answer like that, like that wouldn't be cool.
• 21:36
  But I want to like, so yes.
• 21:38
  So you're, I totally get your story and I was kind of chuckling while you were telling
• 21:41
  it because I'm like, mm-hmm, same thing two weeks ago.
• 21:43
  Yeah.
• 21:44
  So I want to ask you guys because you deal specifically with helping people detox, particularly
• 21:50
  from seed oil.
• 21:51
  It's funny enough.
• 21:52
  Like your business is literally helping people seed oil detox and actually get into this
• 21:57
  and people realize that as soon as they do, they end up losing weight tremendously and
• 22:00
  so on because their body's not experiencing this crazy inflammatory response.
• 22:04
  But I want to go one place first, okay.
• 22:08
  And that is, you've made a lot of comments about image of God and so on and so forth.
• 22:13
  And a topic that has been coming up in my life a lot has been the power of words and
• 22:19
  the power of the words we speak over ourselves and our own lives.
• 22:25
  And this kind of stuff just keeps becoming a big thing and it's literally become such
• 22:29
  a big part of my life that I am choosing what I say so frequently now.
• 22:34
  And I'm like, even like, you know, somebody's just like, do you say something that's really
• 22:38
  funny?
• 22:39
  And they're like, I'm dying.
• 22:40
  I'm like, nope.
• 22:41
  I'm not saying that.
• 22:42
  They'll say it.
• 22:43
  I'm not going to say those words because and I had this conversation with Luke's story.
• 22:46
  You guys know Luke, I'm sure.
• 22:48
  And so I'm having this conversation with Luke and he's like, oh, wow, you know, I never
• 22:51
  really thought about that that way and when we're chatting, I'm like, Luke, let me give
• 22:54
  you an example.
• 22:55
  If I were like, duck, you know, I'm like, what just happened, you know, because granted,
• 23:01
  you feel safe in my company.
• 23:02
  So you don't actually believe that I'm screaming duck edge.
• 23:04
  Right.
• 23:05
  I'm like, I didn't move.
• 23:06
  But under normal circumstances, both they happen if somebody yelled duck and I'm like,
• 23:10
  your pupils are going to dilate, your sympathetic nervous system is going to get triggered,
• 23:14
  your digestive system is going to shut down, you're going to experience phasodilation,
• 23:17
  you're going to be, you know, and I went through like this list of things that are physiologically
• 23:21
  going to happen.
• 23:22
  I'm like, that's the power of one word from me.
• 23:25
  Like, what does your biology do with all of the statements that you make every day, all
• 23:32
  day?
• 23:34
  And recently, there was this weird switch that flipped in my mind and what I keep referring
• 23:40
  to lately is the IAM statements, okay?
• 23:45
  And I am are some pretty powerful words if we want to take this to a theological sense.
• 23:49
  They would say that they're the most powerful words when he was asking, who are you?
• 23:54
  I am.
• 23:55
  I am them that I am.
• 23:56
  You can I say, sent me.
• 23:58
  I am.
• 23:59
  I am.
• 24:00
  Yeah.
• 24:01
  And it's like, probably the two most powerful words when we translate them into English.
• 24:05
  But what do those words mean when we say things like, I am diabetic.
• 24:11
  I am fat.
• 24:13
  This is big.
• 24:14
  I am abused.
• 24:16
  I am a, I have cancer.
• 24:19
  Yes.
• 24:20
  Yes.
• 24:21
  These words, like we're literally declaring things over ourselves and I have to believe
• 24:28
  that and again, I'm not trying to talk, you know, the steward, small, you know, affirmation.
• 24:34
  Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 24:35
  But the reality is that these types of declarations have biological impacts on us.
• 24:40
  You guys see this every day, like when you're dealing with people who are coming in to talk
• 24:44
  about weight loss or talking about healthy, how do you see this?
• 24:48
  Are you kidding me?
• 24:49
  I mean, like this is like the number one thing you have to almost get them out of auto
• 24:54
  pilot and wake them up to even realize that there's, there's things I've been focused
• 24:58
  on.
• 24:59
  There's three things I've been focused on around this topic and I love this topic.
• 25:03
  What are the words that you're saying to other people?
• 25:08
  Okay.
• 25:09
  What are other people saying to you and then what are you saying to yourself?
• 25:14
  Right?
• 25:15
  So when I received, you know, I received a cancer diagnosis and I was in my pity party
• 25:22
  for several weeks talking about this, saying that word, thinking about it, but very quickly
• 25:27
  I realized that I was going to have to completely change the story I was telling myself.
• 25:32
  And so that's one of the reasons I even left the country got away from people.
• 25:36
  I really protected my thoughts, right?
• 25:38
  Took captive of those words, those thoughts, to make sure that I was not speaking this
• 25:43
  into my life or allowing anybody else to speak it into me.
• 25:45
  So to your point, with the people that we end up working with who come to us wanting
• 25:50
  metabolic help, you better believe it because a lot of times you were talking about people
• 25:55
  who have struggled with their health, their weight, their self image and they've been telling
• 25:59
  themselves things for 10, 20, 30, 40, 50 plus years, not only what they've been saying,
• 26:07
  what people have been telling them and it's become who they are, wow.
• 26:12
  Right there, it's hard to get well if that has been the story that you've believed about
• 26:16
  your life.
• 26:17
  Like, that's not who, it's maybe where you are.
• 26:20
  It is not who you are.
• 26:22
  Yes.
• 26:23
  Yes.
• 26:24
  And I will say even deeper than that one step and that is who we believe we are, changes
• 26:30
  our actions, obviously, because if I believe I'm in prison, I act like I'm in prison,
• 26:35
  right?
• 26:36
  Like we're all familiar with the prison studies that were done psychologically.
• 26:39
  The inmates actually behaved like inmates and everybody's college students in the same
• 26:42
  class, right?
• 26:43
  Yeah.
• 26:44
  But the reality is is that even beyond that, I would say, how do at a cellular level, you
• 26:51
  know, if I tell myself I'm diabetic, I'm diabetic, I'm diabetic all the time, do
• 26:56
  our cells just start behaving like diabetic cells?
• 26:59
  Like we speak this stuff into existence as opposed to, and I'll say like, you both probably
• 27:05
  know Vision Lachyanium, right?
• 27:07
  Of course.
• 27:08
  And, you know, talking with Vision and doing all this stuff or whatever.
• 27:12
  So it's like, I would, I decided I was going to get into like, silver meditation.
• 27:14
  Now, coming from a Christian upbringing, I was always taught the meditation was bad.
• 27:19
  Of course.
• 27:20
  But I've unlearned this.
• 27:21
  Yeah.
• 27:22
  And part of that unlearning process is I cook some meditation.
• 27:25
  What is this?
• 27:26
  And it literally came from a moment that I'm like, what do I think the strongest thing
• 27:29
  about me is because rather than focusing on my weaknesses, I need to double down on
• 27:33
  my strengths, which is a professional goal that I've always had.
• 27:36
  Don't do the things you're bad at, hire somebody to do that and go do the things you're
• 27:39
  great at.
• 27:40
  And I'm like, I have a really strong brain.
• 27:43
  Like, I love my mind.
• 27:45
  Like, I'm smart and I'm willing to speak that over myself, you know, true or otherwise.
• 27:50
  But I'm willing to speak that over.
• 27:51
  I was like, I get a great brain.
• 27:53
  Like, what if I could harness just a percentage more of that power?
• 27:57
  And I mean, literally started doing silver training.
• 27:59
  And I'm like, and I remember being on an airplane one day and being like, I'm sick to my
• 28:05
  stomach that day and I'm like, man, I am just sick to my stomach and I'm on an airplane.
• 28:08
  Like, there's nothing I'm doing about this at this point, right?
• 28:10
  And I was like, oh, no, hmm, like, what if I were to just start having a conversation
• 28:17
  with the cells in my body and just playing the general of my own army here?
• 28:23
  And it's like literally like did my silver, you know, three, two, one, they kind of
• 28:28
  meditation.
• 28:29
  They got myself into my little silver state and whatever.
• 28:32
  And I was just like, all right, guys, this is what we need to do.
• 28:35
  Like, I need all immune response to currently right now, be focused on whatever's going
• 28:39
  on in my God, blah, blah, blah, and it's like, and like a, like a total freak show in
• 28:43
  my head at the time.
• 28:44
  And I'm just like, no, this is what I need.
• 28:46
  I like, any functions in the body that are non-essential, I need you to direct all of
• 28:50
  your bandwidth to supporting this particular system and literally just like started giving
• 28:54
  marching orders.
• 28:55
  Yeah.
• 28:56
  That sickness went away in zero minutes.
• 29:00
  And I was like, what just happened?
• 29:03
  It was the weird, and I was like, do you really have the power to control ourselves in
• 29:08
  that way, you know, taking captive every thought, as you just said?
• 29:11
  Like, and that sort of stuff, like, I want you to dig into this conversation about seed
• 29:15
  oils and all this other kind of stuff.
• 29:17
  But like, I think that's incidental to so much of this other big stuff and not to do all
• 29:24
  the talking.
• 29:25
  But like, I just watched a podcast release that came out the other day.
• 29:28
  I was on a podcast with J.M. Ryerson.
• 29:30
  You probably haven't heard of him, but he's a lot of similar stuff.
• 29:33
  And he's like, what biohack would you recommend to anybody starting today?
• 29:38
  And it's like, I didn't remember the podcast was recorded whatever ago.
• 29:41
  And I'm like, watching this reel and my response, I was like, that's right.
• 29:44
  You get it.
• 29:45
  My response was quit the negative thinking because it doesn't matter what biohack you're
• 29:51
  doing.
• 29:52
  And it doesn't matter what you're eating.
• 29:53
  And it doesn't matter all of this.
• 29:54
  If you are filled with brain toxicity, none of that changes.
• 30:00
  Like, you're just going to keep speaking death.
• 30:03
  Yeah.
• 30:04
  And even like you said, just a few minutes ago, and lately, one of the things that I keep
• 30:09
  on saying back over and over, even to myself, is in Ephesians where it says, end to him.
• 30:16
  It's end to him who will give you, imagine, more than you could ever think.
• 30:20
  Or imagine whose power is within you.
• 30:24
  So if that same power is within me, then I do have that power to be able to heal from
• 30:30
  anything.
• 30:31
  Jesus can be able to come up power to death, right?
• 30:33
  Christ, he's good.
• 30:34
  Yeah, exactly.
• 30:35
  So, but even like you said, you know, I was sick to my stomach.
• 30:38
  So a lot of us have been taught growing up that you're sick, right?
• 30:45
  So saying, I am sick.
• 30:48
  So you're now teaching your body that you are sick.
• 30:51
  One of the things as my kids were growing up, they were never allowed, and I never allowed
• 30:56
  them to say, I am sick.
• 30:58
  What I would always say is they would go, I'm not feeling well and I go, okay, you're
• 31:02
  not feeling well because your body is expressing health.
• 31:05
  That is an expression of health.
• 31:07
  So changing that, I've never once ever heard them say, even one time, I am sick.
• 31:13
  They'll say that I really don't like when I'm expressing health, right?
• 31:17
  Like they're throwing up.
• 31:18
  They've got to coming out one end or the other end, but that's how powerful that is.
• 31:22
  And so then going, okay, my body is expressing health.
• 31:26
  What can I do to be able to help my body better express health?
• 31:31
  That could be getting into that meditative state.
• 31:34
  Checking in with yourself, going, okay, spirit, what do you need?
• 31:39
  Physical body, what do you need?
• 31:41
  This, you can just start checking with those different parts.
• 31:44
  And then they'll let you know, hey, here's what it is that I need right now.
• 31:47
  I need you to shut your stink and think enough right now is what I need you to do and
• 31:52
  start believing in the fact that, yeah, God did put a power in your body to heal.
• 31:57
  Now you need to surrender and like go of that, right?
• 32:00
  Because I really truly believe that there are things and energies that we hold onto and
• 32:06
  we all know that we are energy, right?
• 32:09
  There were even times when over the course of this weekend, and I would tell him, I'd
• 32:13
  be like, you're standing around somebody for example, and there's a lot of people in
• 32:17
  this building that I'm like, you know what, I need to go outside for a minute to be away
• 32:23
  from that energy right there because it's not mixing well with mine.
• 32:29
  And so you got to get clear with that, but think about how that is just on a daily basis.
• 32:34
  And so, yes, words are, and that's, you look at spelling, right?
• 32:39
  Words are spells.
• 32:41
  And we're casting good spells on ourselves on a daily basis, casting bad ones.
• 32:47
  They say the thoughts that we have every single day, repeat themselves.
• 32:50
  We have about 80,000 different thoughts that are going through our heads every single day.
• 32:55
  And what they're shaying is that about 80, 80% of those are negative, right?
• 33:01
  So if that's the case, we're not getting the positive ones through the media, and we're
• 33:04
  not getting positive ones through the media.
• 33:06
  And we really need to start speaking live, and that being is with speaking life into
• 33:11
  ourselves.
• 33:12
  Yeah.
• 33:13
  Hard to believe that.
• 33:14
  Dude, I love that.
• 33:15
  So let me go here with this and let me hear what y'all think.
• 33:18
  So.
• 33:19
  Well, I'm just.
• 33:20
  We spitballed.
• 33:21
  Yeah.
• 33:22
  I've got a couple of savants here, man, I want to learn right now, but I'm thinking like,
• 33:29
  so like even when your story being on the plane, or I remember like thinking when I got
• 33:33
  this cancer diagnosis, or let's say you, you know, you stump your toe and you're, you
• 33:38
  know, and you kick the door at the three a.m. the morning and you scream out this nasty
• 33:42
  cuss word in your own pain.
• 33:44
  But what if, what if we knew that in that moment that whatever our body is doing is a therapeutic
• 33:51
  healing response?
• 33:53
  And the reason I'm saying that is if you don't believe that, then what you're going to dip
• 33:56
  into, and this is where my head goes, you're going to go deep into fear because you don't
• 34:01
  have control of the situation and you think that it's a bad situation.
• 34:06
  What if it wasn't?
• 34:07
  What if what your body is doing is exactly what it needed to be doing in this moment, in
• 34:14
  the environment and the circumstances that you have created?
• 34:16
  Well, that takes away all the fear because you know, your body is hardwired to heal and
• 34:21
  it would never do anything to hurt you and it's always trying to heal you.
• 34:25
  So I think if you can come from that place as well, whatever you're going to, you can
• 34:28
  remove the fear component away from it and I think that may be the underlying cause connected
• 34:35
  to the thought because really the fear thoughts are the ones that are making us sick.
• 34:40
  I don't know.
• 34:41
  What are your thoughts on that?
• 34:42
  No.
• 34:43
  I agree with that.
• 34:44
  I genuinely believe that what I speak is what I, what I live.
• 34:48
  Yeah.
• 34:49
  Like the words I speak is exactly like you're speaking your own existence.
• 34:52
  Like yeah.
• 34:53
  And again, we'll go back to a biblical text and say, you know, in the beginning God spoke
• 34:56
  and you know, I mean, John one, like literally goes into the beginning was the word, you
• 35:01
  know, and the word became flesh, like literally everything about it, you know, everything started
• 35:07
  with the word and I don't believe that, you know, especially if we want to talk about
• 35:11
  from a biblical perspective, like if we're made in the image of God, then our words have
• 35:14
  power too.
• 35:15
  Yeah.
• 35:16
  Amen to that.
• 35:17
  And the truth of the matter is is like just as his words spoke things into existence and
• 35:21
  his words were able to create or destroy life, I think our words have that same type of
• 35:28
  power.
• 35:29
  And I think there's, there's a metaphysical reaction to a lot of that that's a different
• 35:33
  conversation when we get into like quantum energies and whatnot, but even from a psychological
• 35:38
  standpoint though, you know, Henry Ford, whether you think you can or whether you think you
• 35:41
  can.
• 35:42
  You're right.
• 35:43
  Absolutely right.
• 35:44
  Exactly.
• 35:45
  He was so simple, but so brilliant.
• 35:46
  He was so out there.
• 35:47
  I understand quantum physics and that's okay, maybe, maybe no, but the truth is, like he
• 35:52
  just absolutely understood that, you know, your belief system was going to be what defined
• 35:57
  you.
• 35:58
  Right.
• 35:59
  Rob was just talking a second ago about, I'm sorry, Derek was, he's a derelict, yeah,
• 36:04
  derelict.
• 36:05
  Yeah.
• 36:06
  We was just talking a second ago and made the comment about, what is it?
• 36:10
  That's a loss.
• 36:11
  I called you Derek and then lost my trade of thought, um, which we said a lot, you know,
• 36:15
  he did say a lot of, you know, there was something very specific that you said about, um,
• 36:20
  shoot, I don't remember what I was talking about right there.
• 36:23
  I lost my thought.
• 36:24
  I shouldn't have distracted myself.
• 36:25
  I thought that was so easy.
• 36:26
  Um, but we were talking about the, the power of words and, and being spells, spells
• 36:31
  spell or that.
• 36:32
  Okay.
• 36:33
  But anyway, talking about you don't, we're not, I'm not sick.
• 36:35
  I'm expressing health.
• 36:36
  Yeah.
• 36:37
  The symptoms of being here.
• 36:38
  Everything about our, everything about our health and everything about our words,
• 36:41
  like we're speaking it and our belief system defines it and, and the psychological part
• 36:47
  of that that we, we define existence because we, oh, he was talking about energy and being
• 36:52
  away from people who had negative energy and just needed to step away for a moment.
• 36:56
  It's like, I think the more sensitive you get to that, you know, it's that, you know,
• 37:00
  what you give is what you receive kind of thing.
• 37:02
  And it's like, when you're around people with that type of negative energy, it just, it
• 37:07
  never ends, right?
• 37:08
  Like, you know, I've got a relative of mine.
• 37:11
  You, I found myself being more bold in conversations because, you know, I'll give a phone call and
• 37:17
  we'll talk and talk and talk and talk.
• 37:18
  And some days I just, we're 15 minutes in and I'm like, oh, my gosh, yeah, and I, and
• 37:24
  I love her to death, but I'm like, stop.
• 37:27
  Like just, and I will say, tell you what, why don't you tell me something good right now?
• 37:31
  I don't know.
• 37:32
  Maybe you're having a good hair day.
• 37:33
  Tell me something about what's going on, but I need to hear something positive right
• 37:37
  now.
• 37:38
  Like, because you, you are continuing to create your own existence and I don't want you
• 37:43
  to create mine with that.
• 37:44
  Like, we're, we're drawing a line.
• 37:46
  You're not welcome past here until that shift.
• 37:50
  And, and I told you guys, like I was talking with JJ Virgin yesterday on the show and she
• 37:54
  was telling me all about when she was, when her son was in the accident.
• 37:58
  Yeah.
• 37:59
  We remember.
• 38:00
  And very clearly.
• 38:01
  She just kept going into, you know, the doctor, oh, you know, that, and her other son
• 38:05
  Bryce was just like, wait, I just calculated that that's a point zero, one, two, five percent
• 38:10
  chance then.
• 38:11
  And JJ went, that's not a zero.
• 38:13
  Mm-hmm.
• 38:14
  And I'm like, man, do I love that?
• 38:16
  Yeah.
• 38:17
  And it was just the mindset and she's like, and if a nurse came to walk into the room and
• 38:21
  looked like she was in a bad mood, out, yeah, she's like, I don't want negative energy
• 38:26
  in this room right now.
• 38:27
  And she goes, and it wasn't because I believed that our negative energy was going to cause
• 38:32
  a problem more than it was a care issue.
• 38:33
  She goes, because even when a doctor was working on him, she goes, I would always ask the
• 38:37
  doctor, do you believe we on the shadow of a doubt that what you're going to do is going
• 38:42
  to be effective?
• 38:43
  Yeah.
• 38:44
  And if the doctor couldn't answer, yes, I want a different doctor.
• 38:47
  Absolutely.
• 38:48
  She said, because you are not going into perform a procedure with doubt.
• 38:52
  Because if you doubt, your performance is going to go in without as an option.
• 38:57
  Yeah.
• 38:58
  Doubt's not an option.
• 38:59
  And what I believe is that my son will be restored to 110% of what he was prior to this
• 39:04
  happen.
• 39:05
  And if we don't agree, hallway, yeah, wow.
• 39:09
  And I was like, I mean, that was about as mama bearers, you can be as a great, right?
• 39:12
  Sure.
• 39:13
  Because I'm like, you don't want J.J. Mama bear on your e-mail.
• 39:16
  No.
• 39:17
  Now with those arms.
• 39:18
  Exactly.
• 39:19
  But it just, but it makes me think like, do we approach everything in life that way?
• 39:25
  Like if you don't believe that this is gone, done hallway, like if you're not in a hundred
• 39:32
  percent alignment, fix that.
• 39:35
  And I think we move forward with this limp all the time and then the limp becomes part
• 39:39
  of our identity.
• 39:40
  I agree.
• 39:41
  And I think it's, I think it's part of being a human to have some doubt, you know, you
• 39:49
  know what I mean.
• 39:50
  So even just having this conversation, like, yeah, you're right.
• 39:53
  I need to be way better about this.
• 39:55
  But what I'm also thinking right now is even looking at you to, for example, is you guys
• 40:02
  both have stories of being able to overcome a lot of challenges.
• 40:06
  And I really feel like God uses you guys, uses us in these stories for other people to
• 40:12
  be able to see, to go, you know what, that little bit of doubt that I had, if they can
• 40:17
  be able to overcome that, then I can too.
• 40:20
  So we get to be able to be these walking role models and examples for other people.
• 40:25
  And I really feel like even with you doing this podcast, that's helping those people that
• 40:30
  were like, you know what, I didn't think that I could ever do that.
• 40:32
  I didn't think I could ever even, you know, do a podcast, for example, like literally
• 40:38
  both of you walk around and Rob, I know your story about being overweight and then losing
• 40:42
  all of that weight.
• 40:43
  And now being a picture of health for people like you're a billboard for your own business.
• 40:48
  Like you know that and you've always been skinny, I hate you, but I was almost dead
• 40:52
  of cancer.
• 40:53
  I mean, can I at least play the cancer car?
• 40:55
  You know, I've seen Rob and I look back.
• 40:59
  You just had cancer.
• 41:00
  Yeah.
• 41:01
  And you get more sympathy than you try overweight kid.
• 41:04
  You try wearing husky jeans as a kid, but you only leave right now, I mean, but the reality
• 41:13
  is it's like you're you're living an aspirational life.
• 41:16
  Like that's really what it was really like you both live a life that I think people want.
• 41:21
  And I know we've had conversations about this in the past, right?
• 41:24
  It's you call yourselves the happy, healthy guys because just literally that phrase itself
• 41:28
  speaks into existence that the reality that you want to be true and is and I think what
• 41:35
  ends up happening is people are attracted to that and they're like the happy, healthy guys
• 41:39
  like who's like, oh, I don't want to be around that.
• 41:41
  Like who says that, right?
• 41:43
  Like that's clearly is not the thing and you guys are living that though because if you
• 41:48
  both went and gained 50 pounds, you'd be out of business.
• 41:50
  It wouldn't look good.
• 41:51
  No.
• 41:52
  Yeah.
• 41:53
  If they didn't met us 15 years ago, they definitely wouldn't want to follow us around
• 41:56
  back there.
• 41:57
  Yeah.
• 41:58
  Absolutely.
• 41:59
  And that's true.
• 42:00
  But you're living what you're preaching and you have to like you literally have to and
• 42:07
  I think that's what you do so well though is that people are people want to be like you.
• 42:12
  People want to live the lifestyle that you do.
• 42:15
  They want to experience the health and mobility and vibrance that you guys both have.
• 42:19
  Like why would they not want to be part of that and from a business perspective, you're
• 42:23
  a billboard.
• 42:24
  Yeah.
• 42:25
  Absolutely.
• 42:26
  And I love that too because it helps keep us accountable.
• 42:29
  Yes.
• 42:30
  No matter where it is.
• 42:31
  Yeah.
• 42:32
  Exactly.
• 42:33
  I wrote a book called Radical Generosity and when I keep telling people was I'm regretting
• 42:37
  it.
• 42:38
  It's something ultimate accountability to write the book, right?
• 42:41
  Totally.
• 42:42
  Yes.
• 42:43
  Published it and put my face on it clearly.
• 42:44
  And I was like, now when I'm acting in ways that are not radically generous, I'm like.
• 42:49
  Yeah.
• 42:50
  Exactly.
• 42:51
  Same thing.
• 42:52
  But yeah, it's the truth though.
• 42:53
  Like you're walking billboards of living the life that people want to aspire to.
• 42:57
  And I think that's true of any personal brand.
• 43:02
  Yeah.
• 43:03
  And I really like what you said at the beginning about that and I'm really proud of us for
• 43:06
  the fact.
• 43:07
  Like you said, even walking around that room, we get to be able to stand in the middle,
• 43:13
  like understand the spiritual side, understand the science side and really be a practical role
• 43:20
  model that like literally anybody could be able to do the things that we do.
• 43:24
  They don't have to spend a million dollars a year to be able to achieve the health
• 43:28
  outcomes that we have.
• 43:30
  And that's one of the things that I love because everything that we do, and that's
• 43:33
  what we always tease like one of our superpowers is we can take things that are really confusing
• 43:38
  and make them really simple.
• 43:40
  So that we were having a conversation yesterday and somebody was like, oh, your system and
• 43:44
  everything is really complicated or confusing.
• 43:47
  And I'm like, no, no, no, let us explain that to you.
• 43:50
  And then they're like, oh, wait a second.
• 43:52
  That is really simple.
• 43:53
  And I will say this as a testimonial to you both because I did your program.
• 43:57
  Absolutely.
• 43:58
  Two years ago or something now or something and it was funny because I'm very conscious
• 44:03
  of the way I look.
• 44:05
  I'm very conscious of my weight and I'm going to work out every day guy and I'm in the
• 44:08
  middle of a 75 hard right now, which is just absurd.
• 44:11
  Congratulations.
• 44:12
  Yeah.
• 44:13
  I just finished that earlier.
• 44:14
  Oh, did you really?
• 44:15
  Oh, yeah.
• 44:16
  Yeah.
• 44:17
  I did it last year.
• 44:18
  I've got to do it every year.
• 44:19
  Kind of mindset.
• 44:20
  Yeah.
• 44:21
  And it's miserable when you're traveling.
• 44:23
  But the mindset is the beauty of it.
• 44:25
  It really is.
• 44:26
  It's just the discipline of doing it that makes the integrity built yourself into
• 44:32
  insane.
• 44:33
  Yeah, I'll be honest with you.
• 44:34
  There's been a couple of things that I'm like, you know, did I take a progress pick
• 44:37
  that day?
• 44:38
  And I'm just like, well, not, I mean, not like I normally did and I was like, is that
• 44:41
  count is missing a day?
• 44:42
  I'll call you right now on it.
• 44:44
  It counts because anytime you compromise one thing and you're like, eh, maybe this isn't
• 44:49
  that big a deal.
• 44:50
  And the next thing you know, you're cutting corners right in love.
• 44:53
  Yeah.
• 44:54
  Yeah.
• 44:55
  I will.
• 44:56
  I will go to like three in the morning.
• 44:57
  I'm a bit like, oh, I got to do the progress pictures like three am.
• 44:59
  Yeah.
• 45:00
  So I know I've done that.
• 45:01
  And I'm really good about the majors, like making sure that I get at least two workouts
• 45:05
  in a day.
• 45:06
  Great.
• 45:07
  Following a diet plan.
• 45:08
  I'm great.
• 45:09
  But it's like, it's that stupid progress pick that gets me because if I'm at home, I wake
• 45:13
  up and there's a giant mirror hanging nearby and it's like, oh, yeah, that's my mirror
• 45:16
  that I do that.
• 45:17
  And I'm in a hotel, like it just, I don't think about it every day.
• 45:21
  It's like, I'm, now I'm taking pictures every day because I'm in a bunch of pictures.
• 45:24
  And I'm like, well, yeah, those are pictures.
• 45:25
  And I'm like, if they're not shirtless pictures in the bathroom, right?
• 45:28
  Like it's out there.
• 45:29
  The same picture, although I'm taking pictures and like that kind of stuff, but or sometimes
• 45:34
  if it's like an outdoor workout, like if today's workout is like, I have to do two indoors,
• 45:40
  I forgive myself for that.
• 45:41
  And like, I'm okay with two indoor workouts because to me, the point is two workouts.
• 45:45
  But the, the point of the matter is is like, I've done your program, you know, I did it
• 45:49
  a couple of years ago and I mean, literally, I was like losing weight in a week and I'm
• 45:54
  like, holy smokes.
• 45:55
  And it's like, and I'm not, I'm not a big guy as much as my body dysmorphia would argue.
• 45:59
  Yeah.
• 46:00
  But the reality is, I mean, it was just like instant and I was like, what in the world?
• 46:05
  Like, and it literally was this combination of small things and it was, you know, the
• 46:11
  gorge the first day, you know, but the SET and the minerals and the salt and stuff that
• 46:17
  you're adding into the diet, but it, it literally is seed oil reductions, right?
• 46:21
  Like that's really what most of it boils down to is certainly mixing up your food so
• 46:25
  that you're getting multiple different types of nutrients and not the same one over and
• 46:28
  over again because I eat my vegetables because I have a sparigus every day.
• 46:31
  Yeah.
• 46:32
  But mixing that kind of stuff up and it's like, but it's, it's simple.
• 46:38
  And I would say that it's not revolutionary science.
• 46:43
  Hear me out of that.
• 46:44
  I'm just going to disin the program.
• 46:45
  I'm saying that it's almost basic stuff.
• 46:48
  Yeah.
• 46:49
  It is basic stuff.
• 46:50
  And I would say that the science behind why it's happening is really brilliant, which
• 46:55
  is taken about 15 years to even get to that point because, yeah, you're right on the
• 47:00
  front end.
• 47:01
  There's really only three steps, the re-awakened day, that course day like you were saying
• 47:05
  the SET oil and then spending five weeks helping the body to be able to detox from all
• 47:12
  that SET oil that's inside there.
• 47:14
  And people don't realize that that is a metabolism disruptor.
• 47:19
  And so it's 100% disrupting and stopping the body's metabolism from being able to work.
• 47:24
  And then that's where magic starts happening in your body is losing the weight.
• 47:28
  But it is utilizing real food sequencing that we've literally studied on what combinations
• 47:35
  and how to put those things to be able to get together in the very right recipe.
• 47:40
  Yeah, it is real food, proteins, right, vegetables, fruits.
• 47:46
  There's nothing revolutionary about that.
• 47:48
  Those are all the foods that God's given as she can go shop for them at the grocery store,
• 47:52
  but it's putting them together in the right combination that's going to be healing for
• 47:57
  that particular person's body.
• 47:59
  Yeah.
• 48:00
  And one of the things I would say is that the, yeah, I don't mean to discount the combination
• 48:06
  of science behind that.
• 48:08
  But it's eat healthy.
• 48:10
  Yeah.
• 48:11
  We're introducing garbage into your life.
• 48:13
  And the one thing that you guys taught me so much, because I'm in total SET oil detox
• 48:18
  right now as well.
• 48:19
  And again, RFK is now shining the light on SET oils and everything.
• 48:23
  And you guys are like, oh, I've been screaming this for a while.
• 48:26
  Didn't see that.
• 48:27
  Exactly.
• 48:28
  The one thing that I think, and I don't know if most people even think about, but it was
• 48:30
  literally your program that drew my attention to it as crazy as this is, is like, sure,
• 48:35
  I can go to Ocean Prime and tell them to make sure there's no SET oil on there.
• 48:39
  But when I went and got a massage that weekend, exactly.
• 48:42
  Did I pay attention to what was being rubbed from head to toe all around my skin?
• 48:47
  Yeah.
• 48:48
  And I was like, oh, wait, and it's like, and I've got, I love in Florida, right?
• 48:53
  Like so living in Florida, you just expect the occasional over sun exposure, because if
• 48:57
  I'm actually home, I'll go play beach volleyball or something, and I love outdoor time.
• 49:01
  Absolutely.
• 49:02
  So outdoor time comes with having to take care of your skin, too.
• 49:06
  And I was disrupted looking at the backs of bottles that existed in my bathroom, because
• 49:13
  I thought because I wouldn't use normal sunblock that I was absolutely, you know, I'll use
• 49:18
  third rock.
• 49:19
  You think if I'm out there for any period of time, like very gurney stuff, like I will
• 49:23
  absolutely use third rock, or I'll use like young goose's bio shield if it's just a regular
• 49:28
  day.
• 49:29
  I know, well, first I know the formulators, which is kind of gives me a little bit of a leg
• 49:32
  up on the average sunbite.
• 49:34
  Those are really good products, and I'm comfortable with those.
• 49:37
  But I started turning over, because I'm like, I won't use, you know, banana boat sunscreen,
• 49:42
  like I'm not going to use a garbage, you know, I understand that this is, you know, nano
• 49:46
  based non-zinc, like, and logically, I know I don't want that stuff absorbing into my
• 49:51
  skin, because literally I understand that it's going into my skin, and then immediately
• 49:55
  into my bloodstream.
• 49:56
  And what am I doing?
• 49:57
  Yeah.
• 49:58
  And then I started looking like Neutrogena body oil, like sunflower, and I'm like, there
• 50:03
  you go.
• 50:04
  Wait a minute.
• 50:05
  And literally, I'm like, Google it, and I'm like, a sunflower considered a pseudo, I see
• 50:08
  other.
• 50:09
  Very high omega liquid.
• 50:10
  Literally.
• 50:11
  Literally.
• 50:12
  Literally.
• 50:13
  I'm just like, oh my gosh.
• 50:15
  I turned over, darnly, every bottle in my bathroom, and it's like, son of a, like, man,
• 50:20
  actually.
• 50:21
  And I was like, this is insane.
• 50:22
  And I mean, I literally went out, and you'll laugh at this, because I bought a bottle
• 50:26
  of oil, deliberately, that's avocado-based massage oil.
• 50:32
  And I'm like, anytime that I go get a massage, I'll take my own stuff, I don't know what
• 50:38
  toxins are rubbing on me, so we're going to use this if that's okay.
• 50:41
  And I do the exact same thing.
• 50:43
  Isn't it funny?
• 50:44
  Yeah.
• 50:45
  Yeah.
• 50:46
  We are bringing, well, I don't want anything on my body if I'm that diligent.
• 50:49
  I'm not going to eat it.
• 50:50
  Don't rub it on my skin.
• 50:51
  You can't do it.
• 50:52
  Yeah.
• 50:53
  But, and that's what I think the, everybody kind of has a seed oil consciousness now, but
• 50:58
  I don't think they fully understand this conversation, really, how damaging these oils really
• 51:05
  are, and they don't just, you can't just quit eating them.
• 51:09
  I mean, you should, and you need to, excuse me, but you have to be able to know how to
• 51:14
  get rid of them in a safe way, because you can't, a lot of people who even try to fast,
• 51:19
  one of the reasons they can't even fast is because they're dumping so much linoleic acid
• 51:25
  into their bloodstream, it's making them sick.
• 51:29
  And so it's not even that it's a hormonal insulin cortisol issue.
• 51:34
  It's really more of like, you're dumping in toxins and you cannot metabolize industrial
• 51:39
  seed oil.
• 51:40
  It's not metabolized.
• 51:41
  It's an ox limb.
• 51:42
  It's a, it's a metabolite that's stored into your fatty tissue because that's where
• 51:46
  your body pushes it to protect your organs, and it will down regulate your metabolic profile.
• 51:52
  So one of the beauties, as you know, with our program is the ability to set up an environment
• 51:56
  we can safely begin to remove seed oil, support the body with the right minerals so you're
• 52:01
  not losing any muscle, and that way your body as it's dumping seed oil, we're eliciting
• 52:06
  a hormone or a fatty acid called meat acid.
• 52:10
  Are you familiar with meat acid?
• 52:11
  Yes.
• 52:12
  It's a risky fatty acid that comes in when your body is now safely removing and dumping
• 52:17
  these out of your body, so you can stabilize those tissues.
• 52:20
  But we've done all the work to lay out the program, so you don't have to try to figure
• 52:26
  all this out or mesh yourself up.
• 52:28
  So there are little things, but the beauty of it is we've taken the best of what we know
• 52:33
  is out there.
• 52:34
  We've looked at our stories, how we've overcome our own metabolic illness, so we've looked
• 52:38
  at real food nutrition and really holistic based approaches, and we just put it all together
• 52:42
  in this system that looks very simple and it is very simple, but the results are unbelievable
• 52:50
  what can happen in a very short amount of time.
• 52:53
  We just don't know really anything out there, not that other programs can't help you
• 52:57
  and that they don't, but to get the result that we get and the way we do it, it's pretty
• 53:01
  remarkable, especially in a world of $100,000 equipment and machines.
• 53:07
  And maybe you should have just laid down a strong metabolic foundation first before you
• 53:12
  start stacking.
• 53:13
  I mean, we know if you build a house on a bad foundation, it's going to cost you a lot
• 53:17
  of time and a lot of money.
• 53:19
  And so we've built it on the rock and that metabolic foundation we believe is primary and sets
• 53:25
  the tone for anything and everything you do.
• 53:27
  I mean, what is the systems that people are using are only going to be as effective as
• 53:32
  the health, the metabolic profile of the body, right?
• 53:35
  As you can give red light therapy to a corpse and the corpse is not going to benefit from
• 53:41
  the red light therapy.
• 53:42
  Exactly.
• 53:43
  It ain't until it's put down the supplement and also put down the big mat.
• 53:47
  It put it down, right?
• 53:49
  Yeah.
• 53:50
  So anyway, I don't know if I went off down this period, but I think it's that important
• 53:54
  and I think that is one of the beauties of the program we've created is we take that
• 53:59
  issue head on, you'll never really heal your metabolism.
• 54:03
  If you don't have some type of sophistication on how do I really get red of these toxins
• 54:07
  out of my body?
• 54:08
  Because they're not going anywhere just by stopping eating them.
• 54:12
  Well, I mean, I shouldn't say that unless you're not going to eat seedle for the next
• 54:14
  five years, which it's potentially you run into it.
• 54:18
  Absolutely.
• 54:19
  And you don't want to be fragile.
• 54:20
  No.
• 54:21
  Right.
• 54:22
  So you said something and as we're wrapping here, like I want to do one more conversation
• 54:26
  because you used a word that also triggered me this week.
• 54:30
  Okay.
• 54:31
  In good way or in good ways, in good ways, in good ways.
• 54:34
  And that is the word fasting, okay.
• 54:37
  Because you made a comment about fasting and which, you know, you can't fast because
• 54:41
  your body's filled with lemonade gas and so I like got it.
• 54:44
  You can't process all of it and 100% agreed.
• 54:47
  And I was having a conversation recently with Ben Azotti and we were on this whole topic
• 54:50
  of fasting and you know, you guys know Ben.
• 54:52
  It's great.
• 54:53
  He's awesome.
• 54:54
  And I say he's another normal one.
• 54:55
  Yeah.
• 54:56
  Oh, totally.
• 54:57
  He's yes.
• 54:58
  And in this conversation with him, like, we get into this whole fasting thing and the
• 55:02
  fasting for 24 hours and in, you know, what really means to be in a state of ketosis
• 55:06
  and, you know, how your body is actually functioning and what's happening hour after
• 55:10
  hour and so on and so forth.
• 55:12
  And, but I want to bring this together because part of your program is intermittent fasting.
• 55:17
  Right.
• 55:18
  Like you're supposed to not, you're supposed to keep in the small window for your food
• 55:21
  intake and so on.
• 55:23
  And part of that is the ketosis process that takes place, understood.
• 55:28
  And triggering autophagy for cellular cleanup while you're resetting metabolic process.
• 55:35
  And one of the things I said to Ben, because he made a comment about 24 hours in because
• 55:38
  the first 24 hours of fasting is usually the hardest.
• 55:41
  And then anytime that somebody fast beyond 24 hours, they usually report that they feel
• 55:45
  great.
• 55:46
  Yeah.
• 55:47
  And he commented that he overfasts he thinks that he's actually gotten criticism for
• 55:50
  fasting too much.
• 55:51
  Yeah.
• 55:52
  And so it's actually kind of fun to me is because I'm like, we started off talking about
• 55:56
  this ancient wisdom come back.
• 55:58
  Yeah.
• 55:59
  And he made a comment about this idea that one of the things that happens after 24 hours
• 56:03
  of fasting is that you end up with a mental clarity and just cognitive function beyond
• 56:10
  what you normally have because part of it is that once you've expelled all of anything
• 56:15
  in your body that requires digestion, the bandwidth, the energy, the limited supply of
• 56:21
  energy that your body has no longer has to direct that energy at your digestive system
• 56:25
  and it can actually start refocusing some of that energy to other areas that may need
• 56:29
  additional support, right?
• 56:31
  Kind of like the Wi-Fi at the office.
• 56:33
  Too many people are on it and people start streaming.
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  Everybody's internet slows down.
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  But several people go home at five o'clock.
• 56:40
  It's amazing how much bandwidth you get later at night because no one else is pulling
• 56:44
  on that power supply meal.
• 56:46
  And I was like, well, Ben, give me an opinion on this and I want to hear what you guys
• 56:49
  have to say about this as well because we've talked about this ancient wisdom and it's
• 56:54
  like with everything prayer and fasting and I was like, God it, I grew up at a Christian
• 57:00
  tradition that would say that fasting is because you give something up for God so that God
• 57:05
  will be willing to give you something in return, right?
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  It's a sacrifice which does this and I'm like, I wanted opinion because my thought on
• 57:13
  this now in my unlearning process is I believe prayer and fasting and I believe the idea of
• 57:21
  sacrificial, whatever, but do I also believe that through fasting comes an incredible mental
• 57:29
  acuity that allows you to actually solve problems, process information, be able to hear
• 57:37
  from God and all this other kind of stuff because physiologically we have stopped the work
• 57:43
  load that our bodies requiring.
• 57:47
  Does that make bringing science and spirituality together even even clearer?
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  Because to me, I was like, oh, like never thought of that before, but that's kind of amazing
• 57:57
  to put it in those terms that like literally I solve problems better when I'm in a very
• 58:01
  clear mind is fasting just next level clarity and that's the benefit it brings.
• 58:07
  It also brings with it autophagy and all these other types of things.
• 58:09
  But like, if you guys, if you thought about that, is that a thing?
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  Oh, of course, yeah, I probably over abused fasting back in the day coming out of my diagnosis
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  and really looking at because I was the guy eating six meals a day trying to be bigger with
• 58:24
  all the insulin hits and then getting the cancer diagnosis and then re-evaluating everything
• 58:29
  and then eating less till now I'm really eating very, very small windows.
• 58:34
  I probably abused it, but I've gotten a healthier relationship with it.
• 58:38
  It's like anything.
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  It is a hormidic stress.
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  It's going to be very powerful.
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  I think a lot of people can abuse it and if you're doing it too much, it can have the opposite
• 58:47
  effect.
• 58:48
  It can definitely raise cortisol.
• 58:50
  It can actually tear down muscle tissue, particularly if you're in other stressful situations.
• 58:54
  Yeah, it's in combination with other multiple stressors like how many, if you're cold plunging
• 58:58
  and getting insana and you're fasting, you're probably doing the triple threat there.
• 59:02
  You may not adapt to that.
• 59:04
  But we also, you know, when fasting, we read about in the Bible, you know, Jesus obviously
• 59:08
  did a 40 day fast and the things that he was able to accomplish, you know, he really
• 59:13
  showed us the way, but also at that time, you know, it wasn't 94% of people were metabolically
• 59:19
  unhealthy.
• 59:20
  Correct.
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  So we're in a different age right now.
• 59:23
  Fasting can be very beneficial and I've experienced the benefit you're talking about.
• 59:28
  I've done multiple three day fast, which I do really well with.
• 59:32
  Try to do those maybe once a year, maybe twice a year, which I think are super beneficial.
• 59:37
  You can also get a topige in a bit benefits without having to do 24 hour fast.
• 59:42
  You can also get a lot of the benefits of fasting with the right amount of nutrient and
• 59:46
  the right amount of minerals because that way you can preserve muscle, but still upregulate
• 59:50
  all of the metabolic hormones to get the clarity as well.
• 59:54
  So I think there's a lot of approaches to it.
• 59:56
  There's no one size fits all, but I think for a lot of people fasting made, because a lot
• 1:00:02
  of people are already in low energy states from years of dieting and yo-yo dieting and
• 1:00:06
  calorie restriction and low carb and keto to go into a fasting for them.
• 1:00:10
  That's brutal for them and they're not going to get mental clarity.
• 1:00:14
  Us three who are metabolically healthy have put the work in and have had the privilege
• 1:00:18
  of being around incredible people that we've learned from.
• 1:00:20
  We can go into these fastest states and really thrive for short period of time.
• 1:00:24
  That would be my thoughts on that.
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  So yeah.
• 1:00:28
  Yeah, no, that's great.
• 1:00:29
  Yeah, because I think also the mentality for a lot of people that are doing fasting
• 1:00:34
  maybe even for the first time, they're still doing it, going into it with the mentality
• 1:00:38
  of doing a diet, a diet being, I'm going to reduce calories and as a result of reducing
• 1:00:44
  calories, I'm going to get an effect, call it topology, call it losing weight, cause
• 1:00:49
  it, you know, calling whatever it is you want to call it, but it's still for the same
• 1:00:52
  purpose to reduce your calories.
• 1:00:55
  And so then people can become addicted to that.
• 1:00:59
  So now I'm just going to go, so now you got the omas or people only eating one meal a day,
• 1:01:03
  you know, people for that same exact, well, I agree with you, I think most people fast
• 1:01:06
  cause they think they're getting the benefit of reduced calories.
• 1:01:09
  Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:01:10
  Absolutely.
• 1:01:11
  Which is not the point of it at all.
• 1:01:12
  No, not at all.
• 1:01:13
  You're actually going to downregulate your metabolic profile, especially over a corrected
• 1:01:16
  period of time, which a lot of people do.
• 1:01:18
  Well, and I actually know people who are like, oh, I, I intermittent fast every day and
• 1:01:21
  I'm like, not the plan.
• 1:01:22
  And they're like, oh, I do it every day.
• 1:01:24
  I'm like, yes, the problem is, is if you intermittent fast every day, it's not fasting
• 1:01:27
  anymore.
• 1:01:28
  Now it's just a program.
• 1:01:29
  Now you're, you're basically in a famine.
• 1:01:31
  Your body is shutting down, raising cortisol to store everything you eat as body fat.
• 1:01:37
  Correct.
• 1:01:38
  Not good.
• 1:01:39
  Which is exactly the conversation.
• 1:01:40
  That's a bad one.
• 1:01:41
  You want a fat, you want to intermittent fast three, four days a week?
• 1:01:43
  Yeah.
• 1:01:44
  Do it.
• 1:01:45
  Yeah.
• 1:01:46
  Not seven days a week.
• 1:01:47
  Like you're causing yourself damage when you get to that.
• 1:01:48
  Yeah.
• 1:01:49
  And I think that's a beauty, even with you were talking about our program and the technology
• 1:01:51
  is that now you, you are doing it and as I'm thinking about it, it's like we're teaching
• 1:01:56
  people how to live, happier, healthier lifestyle, not just through the program really, but for
• 1:02:03
  the rest of their life.
• 1:02:04
  Because now they've got some structure.
• 1:02:06
  Now we do, they have structure, but who doesn't like to do things with the community of
• 1:02:10
  people that are all on the same track for the same purpose, the same intention there to
• 1:02:16
  be able to help each other when that person is like, oh my gosh, I haven't eaten, you know,
• 1:02:19
  for the last eight hours.
• 1:02:21
  That same person is like, I got to eat, you know, breakfast, snack, lunch, snack, dinner
• 1:02:26
  that person like, if I don't have that, I am going to be hangry and you have those people
• 1:02:30
  that are there going up, don't worry about it, it's going to be okay.
• 1:02:35
  Yeah.
• 1:02:36
  So you said something there that I love and I kind of want to wrap on that point and
• 1:02:40
  that is what you guys do, the happy and healthy are two very different things, but at the
• 1:02:46
  same time, very harmonious and that is, you know, our week here at the Aspery Convention
• 1:02:51
  started with the lifelong well-being foundation dinner, which really talks about the eight
• 1:02:59
  dimensions of well-being, that it's not just about the physical, it's not just about nutrition
• 1:03:04
  or environment, which all gets talked about here, but it is social health and it is educational
• 1:03:11
  and financial and in all of these things that we're talking about all of these dimensions
• 1:03:16
  which all feed in and the truth of the matter is a person who is happier becomes healthier
• 1:03:21
  and a person who's healthier becomes happier and the more we can solve and increase any of
• 1:03:28
  these areas, there's a ripple effect that goes to the next area and these concentric circles
• 1:03:33
  continue to expand that, you know, if I am living happy because I feel good about myself
• 1:03:40
  and maybe it is a mental clarity that comes with better nutrition, I'm making better financial
• 1:03:46
  decisions at that point and maybe I do feel better about myself so I don't avoid social situations.
• 1:03:53
  You know, I mean, think of how many people you know and I'm sure you guys come across this all
• 1:03:56
  the time dealing with weight loss, like people who just avoid going to the beach or avoid going to
• 1:04:01
  the water park and it's like your friends are going, no, I'm busy, well, it has nothing to do with
• 1:04:06
  the fact that you don't want to hang out socially, it's the fact that you don't want to take your
• 1:04:08
  shirt off at the water park and, you know, say you just avoid social situations because you feel,
• 1:04:14
  you know, unworthy or you just don't feel like you look good enough, like all of these problems
• 1:04:20
  are interconnected, like all of this stuff and it's the negative thinking, it's the spiritual hygiene
• 1:04:26
  that needs to take place with people who are out of balance in that area and it really boils down
• 1:04:31
  to how do we keep all of these things balanced and again, I would say a person who feels good about
• 1:04:38
  themselves approaches life differently and quits speaking these I am statements that are negative
• 1:04:43
  over themselves, quits expecting defeat, you know, quits looking at themselves with the dysmorphia
• 1:04:50
  that doesn't make sense but they don't have the mental acuity to even be able to process that if
• 1:04:57
  you will, like it's so interconnected and, you know, we started by me saying like there's people
• 1:05:02
  up here, there's people down here and you guys are somewhere in the middle and the reality is I'm
• 1:05:05
  saying that because you guys are balanced, that there is a happiness, there is a healthiness,
• 1:05:10
  there is a balance in all of these areas of well-being, that it's not because, you know, I meet
• 1:05:16
  you guys and I'm just like, oh my gosh, these people have the best HRV scores of anyone I know,
• 1:05:20
  right? Like it's not because your livers are perfect. But it's literally, there's a balance
• 1:05:28
  and there's a harmony in all of these areas and I think it's evident in the way you show up in the
• 1:05:33
  world and I appreciate that and I expect that out of both of you and I think that is the goal
• 1:05:38
  for everybody who attends a biohacking conference, anybody who who shows up here, it's not to be
• 1:05:44
  at, you know, level 10 in your spiritual life and the level one, you know, we laugh about the
• 1:05:50
  Baptist potlucks, right? Like, well, congratulations, you all made it to the prayer meeting and a fried
• 1:05:54
  chicken for three hours. Exactly. You're going to be back on the prayer list next year.
• 1:05:59
  Exactly. Now you are the prayer work. Exactly. You know, or the people that are so busy biohacking that,
• 1:06:05
  you know, you've managed to optimize your health and your wife left you. Like, congratulations,
• 1:06:11
  you know, you spent all this time and you completely locked out the relationships in your life.
• 1:06:15
  Like, there's a balance that needs to happen in here and I kind of love that this entire week
• 1:06:20
  is ending on that note because like, I've just had conversations for days here on so many different
• 1:06:27
  topics and it's like, it kind of feels like a nice bow got put on all of that. So thank you,
• 1:06:31
  both, like, thank you for the whole bunches here. I was a great, but just, I love that, just
• 1:06:36
  harmony. It's about balance. It's about bringing harmony to all of these systems, including,
• 1:06:41
  bringing harmony to your health so that your body knows how to function on it and doing that kind
• 1:06:46
  of stuff. And I love that. Like, thank you guys. Like, I just appreciate the way you show up in the
• 1:06:50
  world. This is Rob Vasquez and Randy Johns with the Happy Healthy Guys. We're going to put
• 1:06:56
  everything down in the show notes here to make sure that people know how to follow you both on
• 1:07:00
  social media, check out their business, the Happy Healthy Guys. What are you guys? H2G, is that
• 1:07:07
  am I getting that right? Well, the H2 life on the H2 life. They've got a bunch of different
• 1:07:12
  websites out there. So the H2 healthy life is our main website. The Happy Healthy
• 1:07:16
  Graham is the H2 life. God, we'll get it all in the notes. We'll get it in the notes.
• 1:07:22
  Because I mean, you definitely just, you would just want to know these guys. Yeah,
• 1:07:25
  they literally bring health and happiness into the world. So you're very well-named, great branding.
• 1:07:30
  I love that. Guys, check it all out. And if you are looking at trying to figure out some metabolic
• 1:07:35
  changes in your life and figuring out ways that these seed oils, even that conversation we had about
• 1:07:39
  like the lotions and the oils that we use. Like, if you wouldn't drink it, quit putting it on your
• 1:07:44
  skin. And that was a lesson that took me a minute and I was like, man, I did something else. I don't
• 1:07:50
  know, right? Which is that unlearning process, but also that you're never going to figure it all
• 1:07:55
  out, but we're all on this journey together. So if you can learn from somebody else, I'll be at
• 1:07:58
  these guys. Do it. And we look forward to seeing you next time on Performance Driven Living.