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NFL 2-GM Wild Card | January 11, 2025 | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the system's going clear the left. What's up everyone?
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Tamberline here aka Totag and Tambo, And we got
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  Speaker 1: a special edition starting it on a Friday this week,
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  Speaker 1: but wild Card weekend, gonna break it all down. Got
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  Speaker 1: Hoopster title here with me as always talking the Saturday
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  Speaker 1: two games slate and who I'll bring you in first.
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  Speaker 1: I was about to say appre Chier, so we'll just
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  Speaker 1: talk about on the show. I was like, what, why
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  Speaker 1: is this the same thing again? And it's because the
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  Speaker 1: Christmas Day slate though Saturday before the Texans, the Steelers,
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  Speaker 1: the Ravens were three of those four teams twice in
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  Speaker 1: a row, and now we're running it back again. A
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  Speaker 1: few injuries here and there, but an interesting slate. Nonetheless,
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  Speaker 1: how you do, my friend, what's going on?
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  Speaker 2: It is crazy? Yeah, you sub about who wasn't the
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  Speaker 2: Chiefs that were on that schedule with those teams, right,
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  Speaker 2: So they sub about the Chiefs bringing the Chargers and
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  Speaker 2: we got the same team. So we've kind of had
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  Speaker 2: this slate numerous times. We'll talk through a two games slate,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, playoffs are here, man, and it's a lot
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  Speaker 2: of fun. Obviously, you know it's sad because this symbolizes
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  Speaker 2: that the NFL season is almost over, but a lot
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  Speaker 2: of slates to play with huge prize pools from here
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  Speaker 2: on out all the way through the Super Bowl. So
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  Speaker 2: looking forward to it. I mean, these two game slates
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  Speaker 2: are fun, the three game slates are fun. Got a
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  Speaker 2: two game round Saturday, three game round Sunday, and then
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  Speaker 2: the showdown slate on Monday night the ram vikings where
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  Speaker 2: that game got moved to Arizona because of those obviously
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  Speaker 2: super unfortunate fighters going on there. So a lot to
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  Speaker 2: do the next few days here, looking forward to it,
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  Speaker 2: and then we're going to dive in and you know,
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  Speaker 2: kind of follow the same process so we typically follow
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  Speaker 2: on these shows.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and just to note that good, good point there
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  Speaker 1: on the slates that we're covering, because we've got this show.
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  Speaker 1: We'll be back Sunday morning like always to cover the
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  Speaker 1: three gamer, and then we'll be back on Monday for
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  Speaker 1: the Monday night football just like usual. So so we
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  Speaker 1: still got all the content. I know people are, oh,
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  Speaker 1: the football season's ending, we're actually more we're more shows
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  Speaker 1: because the Thursday night football just moves to this one.
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  Speaker 1: We still have the Sunday still get the mains. It's
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  Speaker 1: kind of the same shows, I guess if you will.
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  Speaker 1: And then we got MMA back. I know title in
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  Speaker 1: Marley just recorded one last night title what's going on? Man?
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  Speaker 1: How you doing good?
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  Speaker 3: And You've got me excited when you're talking. The same
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  Speaker 3: slate pretty much as Christmas because it was a good.
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  Speaker 4: One over here. Could have gotten better.
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  Speaker 3: I know, Hoop and I had the second nuts on
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  Speaker 3: FanDuel John Becchi's catch at the end did hurt of me.
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  Speaker 3: It was it was like forty eight hundred. It wasn't
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  Speaker 3: so crazy, but it was better than whenever we got paid.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean the Super Bowl future Super Bowl
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  Speaker 3: champs also on the slate too, so I'm pretty excited.
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  Speaker 1: I'd love that these bets are still.
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  Speaker 2: Hey give us. I will take the Ravens Lions and
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  Speaker 2: be happy with the results. So if I owe you
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  Speaker 2: five hundred at the end of the Super Bowl, I'll
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  Speaker 2: be that would be the most exciting I'll ever be
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  Speaker 2: to Sun title five hundred dollars, like, I will take
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  Speaker 2: that in a heartbeat.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I was going to ask you because we said
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  Speaker 3: who goes farther? Technically that is as far as you
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  Speaker 3: can know.
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  Speaker 2: Wins a gamey game? Yeah, yeah, yeah, because that is
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  Speaker 2: the furthest you can go to the super Bowl. But
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  Speaker 2: I mean I think the bet would be whoever wins
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  Speaker 2: that game right perfect, can't be a tie.
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  Speaker 1: One step further, you can go right to the trophy
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  Speaker 1: table and collect that you know, the dog, So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that would make sense. I like that call, and it
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  Speaker 1: keeps it fun and exciting between us. I know you
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  Speaker 1: were pointing over their title. You weren't pointing at Yannis
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  Speaker 1: on that one here, So we'll see. We'll see there
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  Speaker 1: is some sleeper talk. What do you guys think? Real quick?
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  Speaker 1: I know we're about to get into this one. We're
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  Speaker 1: just curious. On the Sunday slate of just one game,
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  Speaker 1: I want to ask about who do you think wins
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  Speaker 1: between the Bucks and the Commanders. That's an interesting game
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  Speaker 1: and it ends out the slates. We'll have show down
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  Speaker 1: coverage all of that too, But just thinking about it,
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  Speaker 1: that's the hardest one for me to figure out. Who
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  Speaker 1: do you got title in that one?
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  Speaker 3: I got the underdog, I got James and Daniels the
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  Speaker 3: rookie using his legs.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, hoop real quick on that one. Then, we'll talk
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  Speaker 1: about this two gamer.
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  Speaker 2: I think I'm following suit. I mean, I do think
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  Speaker 2: that Latimore situation is kind of enough to push me
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  Speaker 2: over the edge where I mean, he is in Mike
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  Speaker 2: Evans head and they need Mike Evans with their receiving core.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go I'm going to underdog is as well.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go, yeah, let's get some Let's get some predicted predictions,
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  Speaker 2: some super Bowl predictions like the game. I mean, so
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  Speaker 2: obviously this is, you know, the kickoff of the playoffs,
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  Speaker 2: So let's let's put our predictions in.
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  Speaker 1: You want to go all the all the way or
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  Speaker 1: you just want to go.
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  Speaker 2: Just like, who's gonna be in the super Bowl? Who's
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  Speaker 2: gonna win it?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead, title, I'll let you go first.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely Baltimore and they're winning it all. Wow, I said Packers.
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  Speaker 3: I can't say Packer is actually going to do it.
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  Speaker 3: I do think the Rams are sneaky, like going to Detroit.
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  Speaker 3: I know they're underdogs against Minnesota. Had heard him move
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  Speaker 3: in that I don't see, so so tough for me.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think it's Philly, I really don't. I think
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  Speaker 3: it'll be either Lions or the winner of Minnesota and
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  Speaker 3: the Rams. The Lions are the easy pick, so I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to go that way. I'll go I'll go
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  Speaker 3: the Rams really sneaky.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, I like the first call is the best one.
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  Speaker 1: Give me those Ravens.
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  Speaker 4: Ravens the Homer.
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  Speaker 1: But yes, Omar, I'm definitely excited if that happens. I'm
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  Speaker 1: I'm already scared about this game, and I know it's
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  Speaker 1: just we're gonna get to it against the Steelers, but
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  Speaker 1: I get worried pretty easily about these playoffs. They just
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  Speaker 1: never seem to come through, and it worries me. Oopster,
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  Speaker 1: what do you got the Super Bowl looking like?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't want to go like the
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  Speaker 2: Homer pick and take the Lions to get there. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm with title, like, something does not seem right with
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles and they fell off. They fell off the
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  Speaker 2: word at the end of last season going into the
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  Speaker 2: playoffs and just totally collapse. I just kind of get
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  Speaker 2: the same vibe that it's just not They're not gonna
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  Speaker 2: be able to get it done. So I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: take the Lions to get there in that IFC. And
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  Speaker 2: the problem is it's like after the like if you
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  Speaker 2: don't want to pick the Lions, like who you picking?
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  Speaker 4: It's so hard, so much better.
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  Speaker 2: I do agree, Yeah, I do think the Rams can
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  Speaker 2: make a run, Like I don't know if they can,
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  Speaker 2: you know, get all the way there, but like I
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  Speaker 2: think they win, and I think they can win two
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  Speaker 2: games and then I think they'll they'll they'll probably lose
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  Speaker 2: to the Lions to get there. So I'm taking the Lions.
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  Speaker 2: Then I'm just I'm gonna take the Bills, and then
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the Bills to beat the Lions in
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  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl because I just don't think there's any
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  Speaker 2: chance the Lions defense, and it has it looked better
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  Speaker 2: last week, but that was Sam Donald and Sam Darnald
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  Speaker 2: made a lot of mistakes. So I'm gonna take Bills, Lions,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna take the Bills Bills to win it.
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  Speaker 2: But I do like those dark horse teams, the Rams,
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  Speaker 2: and then the Chargers as well. I think the Chargers
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  Speaker 2: can make a run run in this, So those would
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  Speaker 2: be the two teams I think could make some sort
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  Speaker 2: of run and maybe fall a little bit short.
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  Speaker 1: The well the well done teams over there for Hoopster
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  Speaker 1: Withold Lega stakes, but I will say I like the.
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  Speaker 2: I was laughing though. Did you see the dk onyx options.
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  Speaker 2: I saw that steak pack sitting there, like I tilted,
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  Speaker 2: But E wouldn't be if I just got that and
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  Speaker 2: just burn the fuck out of every single one that
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  Speaker 2: came through on video.
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  Speaker 3: There's not really anything that That's probably what I.
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  Speaker 2: Was looking at. Them scooters, Man, my kids love those
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  Speaker 2: those scooters. I might micraft there's only one and you
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  Speaker 2: get yeah, and you get two of them scooters. I
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  Speaker 2: might do the scooters and take a look at something else.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give mine quick and then we'll get to
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  Speaker 1: the slate. I hope people want to talk through this,
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  Speaker 1: but just to say it, I was gonna say, I
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  Speaker 1: definitely think Philly's in it. I'm against you guys on that.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a different year for them.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Hurts just got out of the concussion protocol.
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  Speaker 1: Barkley has been just a beast all season. I think
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  Speaker 1: they can do it this time. And it's hard because,
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  Speaker 1: like say, if not the Lions, then you got to
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  Speaker 1: pick this dark horse. I just think on the NFC side,
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  Speaker 1: they're good enough. We've seen enough. It was they were
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  Speaker 1: turning on before they kind of turned off a little.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm still with them, Gonna stick with that one.
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  Speaker 1: I've got it to be the Bills if I'm picking,
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  Speaker 1: But I mean, it's not even the Homer. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's I could easily see an Eagles Ravens super Bowl
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  Speaker 1: as well, and it's the two teams that ramped up
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  Speaker 1: of all things, all those zero running back people out there.
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  Speaker 1: You could see the team that picked up Barkley and
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  Speaker 1: the team that picked up Henry, and what do you know,
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  Speaker 1: they're in the super Bowl. But my official pick is
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  Speaker 1: going to be the Eagles versus the Bills. And then
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  Speaker 1: I got Philly rolling over and I got Josh Allen
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  Speaker 1: getting the super Bowl. So that's just how I see
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  Speaker 1: it right now. And maybe that's the case, and he'll
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  Speaker 1: make his case for why he want MVP, because I
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  Speaker 1: think he's gonna lock that into I think it's done,
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  Speaker 1: so all right, anything else, hoop you want to add
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  Speaker 1: with that? If not, let's talk about the two game
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  Speaker 1: or the first game up is the Chargers Texans. But
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  Speaker 1: if you've got a grand scheme overview, go ahead with that.
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  Speaker 2: Not necessarily like a grand scheme overview, I mean, the
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  Speaker 2: one thing that definitely stands out. I mean, there's options
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  Speaker 2: on every team, but I think the one team that
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  Speaker 2: definitely gets overlooked on the slide is going to be
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  Speaker 2: the Steelers. I mean, coming off was at four straight losses,
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  Speaker 2: They've looked like absolute shit, and I mean, I personally
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  Speaker 2: think they can get their asses absolutely handed to them
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  Speaker 2: in this game. But that is the team if you
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  Speaker 2: are looking for low ownership or leverage plays where basically
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  Speaker 2: everyone is going to be probably lower owned than any
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  Speaker 2: anywhere's projecting. I think just because it's just the least
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  Speaker 2: appealing spot. They're only projected to score seventeen on the road,
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  Speaker 2: and they have looked really, really bad. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: they were able to find success early on in the season,
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  Speaker 2: and I think a lot of that, you know, can
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  Speaker 2: be credited to Mike Tomlin just being experienced and you know,
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  Speaker 2: he's been a successful coach in the NFL, so I
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  Speaker 2: think he was able to pick up some wins early
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  Speaker 2: on that they probably otherwise would have lost. I just
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  Speaker 2: don't think this is a very good team at all,
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  Speaker 2: and they've gotten exposed going into the playoffs, and I
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  Speaker 2: think they kind of further that here here today. But
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  Speaker 2: with that all being said, like all their guys are
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  Speaker 2: going to come in, you know, lower owned on this slate.
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  Speaker 2: The one thing that definitely stands out, I say overall
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  Speaker 2: is lack of options at wide receiver. I mean it
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  Speaker 2: falls off very very quickly. You got Lad mcconkeye, you
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  Speaker 2: got Nico Collins, and then you look around and there's
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  Speaker 2: not many other household names as Quintin Johnson coming off
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  Speaker 2: the big game last week, finally learned how to catch
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  Speaker 2: the football and Herbert absolutely was peppering him. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: it worked out well for me out a team and
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  Speaker 2: the I think it finished fifteenth in the millionmaker obviously
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  Speaker 2: fell a little short, but it was a Herbert Quinton
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  Speaker 2: Johnson stack, which man, I would have never thought that
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  Speaker 2: would had a chance to be on the winner. But
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  Speaker 2: you know that's NFL dfs. But you know, Zay Flowers
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  Speaker 2: out and I know a lot of people are going
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  Speaker 2: to want to go to Bateman, but I mean this
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  Speaker 2: is an offense in the Ravens that you know, even
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  Speaker 2: with the big injury to Zay Flowers, like, there is
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  Speaker 2: still big bust potential for a guy like Bateman' So
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  Speaker 2: I mean you have two household names at wide receiver
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  Speaker 2: Maya I was Glad mccaukee and Nico Collins. And then
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  Speaker 2: we go to the tight end position. It's been the same.
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  Speaker 2: We've had the slate numerous times. In the talking point
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  Speaker 2: every single time on these slates were man, I want
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  Speaker 2: to play as many tight ends as possible, and I
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  Speaker 2: think that is the case again on the slate where
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  Speaker 2: we have five very solid tight end options, they're going
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  Speaker 2: to get a lot of ownership. Double tight end is
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  Speaker 2: going to be very very popular because it opens up
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  Speaker 2: the world and these guys are all way too cheap.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, even starting with Mark Andrews. I mean I've
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  Speaker 2: been riding this Mark Andrews trained for you know, weeks
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  Speaker 2: now going into the back to the regular season, like
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  Speaker 2: weeks weeks back, and it's been like eleven touchdowns in
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  Speaker 2: nine or ten games. I mean, Lamar is using it now,
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  Speaker 2: z Flowers out he's the most expensive guy there. So
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  Speaker 2: there's talking points, but you know, the one thing that
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  Speaker 2: definitely stands out to me is Steelers probably way lower
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  Speaker 2: and than we're anticipating not much. You know, big name
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  Speaker 2: guys at wide receiver and then tight end people are
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  Speaker 2: gonna want to play a lot of tight ends.
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  Speaker 1: Here, Okay, title, I'll kick it over to you. I
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  Speaker 1: got some thoughts as well, but I thought who broke
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  Speaker 1: it down pretty good for a lot of the spots.
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  Speaker 1: What's your thoughts? Just the grand scheme overview on the
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  Speaker 1: two gamer literally.
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  Speaker 4: Took the words pretty much everything out of my mouth.
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  Speaker 3: Double tight end will be popular because when you get
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  Speaker 3: to receiver, it's very condensed.
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  Speaker 4: Running back pretty condensed.
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  Speaker 3: And yeah, these tight ends are on the field a bunch,
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  Speaker 3: and they're pretty cheap, so it allows you to get
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  Speaker 3: the nicos the lads of the world when it is tough,
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  Speaker 3: like when you get let's see, I have four or
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  Speaker 3: five receivers projected over ten points and then the next
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  Speaker 3: like less than six point five, which just shows that
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  Speaker 3: drop off there. And I do think ownership will be
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  Speaker 3: really condensed when it comes to that. And what who
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  Speaker 3: said about the Steelers, Like, I mean, I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 3: play Russ We'll get there in a second, but all
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  Speaker 3: these Steelers will be low low and I'm gonna have
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  Speaker 3: to play some of them like the Nagy's the Warrens
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  Speaker 3: of the world. But I think who broke it down
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  Speaker 3: perfect condense at receiver. Double tight end will definitely be popular.
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  Speaker 3: And what I do like though, is they have a
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  Speaker 3: big enough gap from Lamar to the Herbert to the
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  Speaker 3: Strouds of the world where Lamar might be the highest
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  Speaker 3: on quarterback, but I think it will be relatively ish
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  Speaker 3: close because of again two K and there's not that
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  Speaker 3: many savings and if you do go that route, it's
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  Speaker 3: gonna be a double tight end a very similar build.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm excited to go through these position by position
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  Speaker 4: see where we can make some pivots.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the biggest thing right away is what
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  Speaker 1: you said, like nobody really wants the Steelers like the
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  Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin thing. I think he's an awesome coach for
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  Speaker 1: the players, like he says, definitely a player's coach when
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  Speaker 1: he's out there, But it always gets talked up every
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  Speaker 1: season because of his winning record, But it's like an
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  Speaker 1: eight and eight record or he's.
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  Speaker 2: A regular season grinder type coach. I mean that that's
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  Speaker 2: what he is, and you know.
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  Speaker 1: He's better than most I mean, really all these other
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  Speaker 1: shitty coaches. I get where that comes from, but it's
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  Speaker 1: like I do see a spot here where they try
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  Speaker 1: and just again, I don't think it works out, but
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  Speaker 1: they're gonna try and slow them are down. They've seen
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  Speaker 1: him enough, they know what he is. They both teams
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  Speaker 1: know what they are. That I at least have some
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  Speaker 1: interest in that side, so I'll be a little bit
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  Speaker 1: different there, probably than the field. I also think Nico
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  Speaker 1: Collins is just getting pushed into everything because you can.
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  Speaker 1: And he's one of the ones I have the least
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  Speaker 1: interest in of like mconkey mix and Derrick Henry the
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  Speaker 1: spend ups. I think it's just I know why he
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  Speaker 1: fits and it's natural, and especially if they're playing from behind,
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  Speaker 1: it would make sense. But I actually like mixing more
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  Speaker 1: at a different position at a similar price point. Obviously
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  Speaker 1: you can play them both, but just noting that as well.
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  Speaker 1: And then I think that a lot of people, even
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  Speaker 1: in the chats that about the two tight ends with
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  Speaker 1: like the specific story two tight ends and Andrews and likely,
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  Speaker 1: but I think you can still get there's tons of
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  Speaker 1: two tight end options, Like you know, Friarmouth against the
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  Speaker 1: Ravens could just be ten catches or eight catches because
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  Speaker 1: they're just down and throwing it to him. So him
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  Speaker 1: with one of those guys or Schaltz Disley. There's definitely
• 14:15
  Speaker 1: tight ends in the mix here. And then I wonder
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: about these backups you talked about, you know, Mechi hurting
• 14:20
  Speaker 1: you guys, but like not backups, but the ones that
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: people aren't thinking of. More people are playing Schaltz than Mechi,
• 14:26
  Speaker 1: more people are playing Likely, and definitely Andrews more than Agalore,
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: like at Calvin Austen not that popular. So I'm gonna
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: switch up some of my lineups that way and get different.
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: And then I definitely think you can leave a bunch
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: of money on the table just the nature of the slate,
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: Like one guy beats one guy and it's game over.
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: So I can easily leave three grand, twenty five hundred
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: whatever it is, and maybe more hot to look and
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: see by the end of tonight getting into tomorrow. So hoop,
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: let's go to quarterback. I'll start with you. You already
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: mentioned about leaving sort of Russell, or at least the
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: field leaving Russell out. But Lamar, Herbert Strau, what's your
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: thoughts at the quarterback position?
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: I thought what title said made sense. I mean, there's
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: a huge gap from Lamar down to these other guys,
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: and you know, when you go in there, and you
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: start building teams like the upgrades are going to be
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: able to get with. Two thousand dollars is pretty substantial.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're going from Quintin Johnson to Lad McConkie,
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: which obviously Quentin Johnson had the big game last week,
• 15:24
  Speaker 2: but you know that's a huge upgrade two thousand dollars.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, right there, you can go from Bateman to
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: Ladi McConkie. You know, there's just one example of situations
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: that you can exploit by going cheaper at quarterback. I
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: hope the field does that because I want to jam
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: Lamar as much as humanly possible, and people are going
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: to see what Justin Herbert did last week the big
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: Fantasy game and want that. So I hope the ownership
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: on Lamar comes down. It will at least be held
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: in check because of that pricing difference. You know, it's
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: not going to be super super crazy, so going to
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: continue to ride Lamar. It's worked out out on these
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: smaller slates, and I think it's definitely the move tomorrow
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: or tomorrow or on this two game slate. Herbert looks
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: good and then you know people are gonna choose Stroud
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: over Russell Wilson. I mean, I'm just gonna be off
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: most of the Steelers stuff, and then they are still getting
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: some ownership. So it's one of those situations where even
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: though he's the lowest owned, like if I x him
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: out and don't play him, I'm still getting some sort
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: of leverage on the field because he is going to
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: be owned I'd say somewhere between eight to ten percent,
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: so off of him. You know, Stroud is the other
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: one that doesn't look all that good. I mean, it's
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: been very rough for that entire offense. I'm fine being
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: similar between like Stroud and Herbert if that's what it
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: comes to when I build my teams, like I you know,
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: I like Herbert more, but I'd be fine being somewhere
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: in the same vicinity because I think it is justin
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: Herbert the one that gets pushed up here quite a bit.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: Like I think his ownership ends up being higher than
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: what most places are showing. We're showing twenty six. I
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: think it's probably more thirty low thirty range, and I
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: think it's gonna be a direct result of you know,
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson coming down. I don't think Lamar Jackson is
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: gonna be fifty fifty two, and there will be adjustments
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: and stuff obviously going into tomorrow, but I think there's
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: gonna be the gap between Herbert and Lamar is gonna
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: be much much closer than anyone showing, not only us,
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: but everyone's showing. But yeah, it'll just be the three guys,
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna try to play as much Lamar as
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: he as possible without you know, making sacrifices at other positions.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: So him, then you know, Herbert Strout. Whatever I get
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: with those two, I'm kind of good with. And obviously
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: it'll all be reflected in the player pool over at
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: ship innation dot com probably building, you know, later this
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: afternoon or this evening, so i'll have my exact numbers
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: in there. But you know, I'm fine just being off
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: Russell Wilson. Like, if it's Russell Wilson that beats me
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: in the first round of the playoffs, and so be it.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: He looks like shit, he's actually a shitty quarterback. I
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: just don't. He's just not good. Like he's not He's
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: just not a good quarter it's the name, Like he's
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: done a good job branding himself. He fucking sucks as
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: an NFL quarterback and he's gonna get his ass kicked tomorrow.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: We'll see. That's what we got to see. So fifty
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: three hundred, but it's only twitter bucks more to go
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: to Stroud. So I know some people would look at
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: it that way, but I think title, it's for sure
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: what we're seeing here in Shipdemizer. Not necessarily the ownership
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: those will be adjusted. This is our initials that went up.
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: But you can definitely see that the exposure and Optimizer
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: wants to give you is Lamar. Sean our Boy asked
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: thoughts on locking Lamar in twenty max thoughts on that
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: title before you take over? Any other thoughts you have
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: at the quarterback position.
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's all a risk preference. It's not
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: something I'm going to do because like I do, I mean,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: I hate the sake who keeps going first. He makes
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: my job easier. But I do think that gap between
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Lamar and Herbert does close in ownership because you do
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: get a lot of upgrades.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: I don't hate locking Lamar.
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: The thing is like Herbert gets you twenty six in
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: the first game or Stroud gets you twenty two, Like
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: that's a really I mean, that's a great score. They're
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: nine and a half point favorites. They can definitely rely
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: on King Henry. So I prefer namely to build because
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: I'm playing twenty teams on a twenty entry max summer
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: early playing three, four or five, I can build independent lineups.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: I don't need all my bubbles on the right or
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: the left, so it's not something I'm gonna do. But
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: he is my favorite quarterback, so I don't think it's crazy.
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: I mean, I'm pretty much identical who you can see.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: I'm still getting over as cold. It's really annoying, but
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: I'm not playing Russell wilt not playing Russell Wilson. I'll
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: probably be pretty close with CJ and Herbert because I
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: do think CJ. There is going to be a decent
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: gap from Lamar Herbert down to CJ Stroud.
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: CJ does have.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: A one better, one yard better passing prop, the highest
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: actually on the slate at two thirty one.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: I will be playing a lot of Nico, so a.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: Way to eat an a Nico Chalk is playing a
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: little lower own CJ ites Wise, anyone that's watched the
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: past couple of weeks, CJ. Stroud's awful, one of the
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: worst quarterbacks blah blah blah. On a two game slate,
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: I'll lean into that a little bit. I mean, at
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: least it's not Will Levis. I's out of Will Levis
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: on a two game slate, I feel a little better
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: about c J. Stroud so and also with him, like
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: you mentioned tam Well, I will be playing those bum
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: wide receivers to get different.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: You have so many with them. With CJ.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: You have Metchi who's gonna get some ownership, but not much,
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: the Robert Woods.
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: The Xavier Hutchinson's of the world. We get to receiver
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: like they're snap counts.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: These guys are on the field obviously since taint Dell
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: has been hurt, so even Deontay Johnson twenty two snaps
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: last week there. So I'm definitely Lamar favorites, and then
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: the Herbert CJ. I'll be pretty close. Then that means
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: I'll probably be overweight CJ a little under Herbert.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: And then we'll get to running back.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: That means I'm probably gonna play a good amount of
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Dobbins as well, but definitely Lamar my favorites, and then
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: c J.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Herbert.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, you said on two games slate, me and
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Ross are laughing. Ross been here a bunch all season,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: obviously got a Ross. He's saying, Buddy, you touted him
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: on a twelve games slate him too, put a one
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: on the front of that.
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: It was two game ones. But yes, hey, I want
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: to ask this. I think they're better off. They have
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: been saying. I think the Steelers have a better chance
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: to win with Field back. There's not going to happen.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: But do you agree? What do you think Tamba man?
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Imagine they just roll them out like first drive.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean it's simple. They have no chance with
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Russell Wilson back there, So like, at least there's something
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: different with with Field. It's a different dynamic. I fully
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: agree that they guys are talking to.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Me out of my Wilson shares.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Man, I was thinking about dump them. I only think
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: about your Ravens defense. How sad you're gonna be when
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: they're in his face just sacking of I mean, it's man,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: just don't do it.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking now. I'm starting to wonder. And
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: what I really like, too, is something the title just said.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Because it's only you only get two games to talk about,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: so it's like that could really set you up for
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: success out of the gate. If you've got these overstacks
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: on these Texans, they're the opposite side of Herbert, where
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: that's huge leverage that way, because we can talk all day,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: and I agree with both of you that Herbert's gonna
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: eat into Lamar's ownership some but also I just don't
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: see where Stroud eats into Herbert's at all, and he's
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: on the opposite side for five hundred bucks less. I
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: don't love Nico, but how would I like Nico if
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: it's a big game that actually affects him. Guess who
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: that's gonna help Stroud. He doesn't need it because he's
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: the type of guy can get you ten for one
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: sixty and nothing. And that doesn't mean Stroud goes up.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: But when you can overstack that side with some Schultz
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: something one of those other guys like Metchi or something,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: you can put mixing into it. If you can play
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Lamar Henry on this late, which you absolutely can, why
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: not play like a Stroud mix and do some stuff there?
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, here's here's another talking point with the Texans.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Maybe I'm talking myself into, you know, Stroud a little
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: bit more in this offense like they're one of very
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: few playoff teams that had literally nothing to play for
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: like the last couple of weeks. I mean they were
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: they're essentially locked in. Three weeks ago, you knew they
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: were going to be the four seed. They had nothing
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: to play for the last week. They had nothing to
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: play for two weeks ago. And I'm not saying like
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: they were coasting and like hiding things, but like they've
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: looked really really bad. And I'm not necessarily saying it's
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: by design, but they had like no motive innovation to
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: finish out the season strong, like whatsoever. So I don't know,
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: are you guys factoring that in like at all, Like
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: it's just a thought, just kind of just kind of
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: popped in my head. I don't know, I mean, just
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: spitballing here a little bit.
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: The ownership, the ownership just has to be low. And
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: I hate Russell Wilson, so like that's the one thing
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: I can get a little different on and the plot
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: there of low on wide receivers. But yeah, they came
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: out last week. They didn't have to play anyone first
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: ride Nico touchdown. They were absolutely feeding them pap trying
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: to get in a rhythm.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so I like that. I guess that's another
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: added bonus. But also just even on the entire season,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: the Texans do pass it a bunch, and so that's
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: another thing that if again, it's just it makes sense
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: and it's gonna be good leverage because I think even
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: if people overstack the spot, it's absolutely going to be
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: with the Chargers like people are gonna play Herbert McConkey
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Johnson all that. I am too. I actually love that
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: over I was gonna say that, you know, just finishing
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: out the quarterback position. I guess is what I like
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: about the Chargers is everyone's going to stop at you know,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: my Conky Johnston. Maybe they get Disley in there, but
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: I'll get a little Darius Davis in that way. I'll
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: slam the Chargers d in going up against the popular
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Kneco Like you can just jam six guys from the
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: Chargers if you if you have a feeling about that game,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: and it still allows you to get the Ravens that
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: you want. So I really like that spot to overstack.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: But now you guys got me thinking about just moving
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: my Wilson shares over more over to Stroud and be
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: able to do it that way, and I'm fine with it.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: I think that's you know, the overstacks and these shorter
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: slates typically, you know, if you if you've got the
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Chargers and the Ravens winning and handily in both spots,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: and obviously you can just overstack that, leave whatever money's
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: left behind and roll from there. But I think that's
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: probably good to wrap out quarterback title. I'll go to
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: you running back, let's move on. There looks like Derrick
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Henry then mixing even Dobbins. But after that, it's like,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: there's options. It just depends on where you feel most comfortable.
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there're is options, but it definitely falls
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: off like it's gonna be really easy for me. It's
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: gonna it's gonna be a clear six the mix and Henry, Dobbins,
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: Warren Nausey, just Hill. I know I won't want to
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: play Nase and Warren together. I want to limit my Steelers.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: But again, it's a two games slate. If the Steelers
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: win this game, it's not like it can't get there.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: I think I'm gonna have to play some Like I
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: don't love Justice Hill as much as I did in
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: the regular season. I really think They're gonna pound King
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: Henry as much as they can. Justice Hill always better
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: in trailing game scripts are two minute drills, but it's
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: seven hundred more to Warren, five hundred more to Nase,
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: so then it's pretty much as five running backs for me.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: I know I'll have a good amount of JK.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: Dobbins because I already talked about maybe being a little
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: under on Herbert. I'll be more on CJ Mix and
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: could catch passes out of the backfield great price tag. Like,
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: I'm definitely playing Mix and you can play with CJ.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Can definitely play Derrick Henry with Lamar. But the Naji
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Warren stuff, I think I'm just naturally gonna have to
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: lean into and like I don't love like Pickens is okay,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: I'll be playing them. I don't love it, though I'll
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: probably have more Calvin Austin or at least over the
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: like compared to the field they'll have more and then
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: Friar move. I'm just really capping my Steelers stuff, and
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: I think I prefer war and then Nause because if
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: they're trailing, he is out there more. But I will
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: say Nazi's I mean eye tests wise, he has looked
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: good and the Steelers will want to pound the football,
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: take it out of Lamar's hands. So I think just
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: at ownership, Domin's probably my favorite. I'm gonna have a
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: lot of Henry and Nixon, but I have to play
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: some more in nause.
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: I'm going to group them away though.
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: I want you guys to talk about Justice Hill a bit,
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: but I don't love it nearly as much as I
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: have the past couple of weeks.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just coming back right, So that's gonna be obviously
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: the tricky power. We know he's in. He's gonna play,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: but it's, you know, forty five hundred bucks, solid price.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: It's just a matter of how they use them. What
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: that looks like. Definitely taking risk in mme, I don't care.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Like I know, Mitchell's been in and other stuff that
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: people have seen and so they think that maybe the
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Ravens are switching it up. But I think it's gonna
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: be just fine. And if you've got the Ravens smashing,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: I could see them still trying to get him back
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: into the mix, going down the getting him ready for
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: down the stretch. He was the guy right before. So
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: who you doing with Justice Hill? And then talk through
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: the rest of the running back position.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. I mean in play, I mean you
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: need a probably a low scoring position. I think for
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: to payoff like you need probably like mixing to bust
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: or something like that. I think for for Justice Hill
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: to be the guy that gets there, but he's gonna
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: be in play for me. I mean, I think the Ravens,
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: you know, take care of business in a big way.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: I definitely am fine playing him at forty five. And
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: it's the same thing like with him all season, like
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: tends to get it and burst. Like if he's out
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: there for a two minute drill and you know he
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: gets a dump off or something or a couple dump offs,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: you can kind of get there. So I'm in on it,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: you know, not a core player or anything like that,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: but definitely part of the player pool. Agree with the
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Nase Jayalen Warren stuff. Definitely don't want both those guys,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: especially because of how I think that game is going
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: to go. Definitely will have more Warren than Nause, though
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: I do agree though again that Nase has looked better.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: I mean he's a guy that on these two games
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: lates have hurt me a little bit because he has
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: had good games and I've been underweight and I'll continue
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: to be underweight on him, and so if he has
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: a good game, I probably lose this week. But you know,
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: not going to prioritize him. The one guy though, that
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I think has a chance to, I don't know, maybe
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: get squeezed a little bit. Haven't really built teams a
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: ton is Joe Mixon. Like I think it's similar to
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: the situation we talked about it at quarterback where Stroud
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: is going to come in lower than anticipate. I think
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Mixon has a chance. Everyone's gonna want Henry. It's a
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: clear spot. Not yet, I want as much Henry as
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I can get. I'm gonna get as much Henry as possible.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: But if you get as much Henry as he possibly can,
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: that means is probably coming at the expense of a
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: guy like Joe Mixon, who, again, this offense has not
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: looked good. I think people are just gonna be willing
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: to maybe sacrifice some shares of these Texans guys just
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: because of how the offense has looked recently. So I
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: think there is a chance that he comes in a
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: little lower on and then projected and then with the JK.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Dobbins thing like, I'm fine with Dobbins, but I'm I'm
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: a little nervous with Gus Edwards back, Like we haven't
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: seen both those guys together in a while. Last time
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Edwards played, I think he went off, I'm pretty sure,
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: and then got hurt, So I don't know, I'm a
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: little nervous about that situation. Can't be too picky, obviously,
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: it's a two game slate, so we can't really fully
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: analyze and make big sweeping decisions based on, you know,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: something small like that. But I am moderately nervous with
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: the Dobbin stuff, with with Edwards being back. But it's
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: a clear position. I mean, you got, like, what is
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: it the six guys that that are in play? You know,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: definitely I'll be underweight on Harris, I'll have a little
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: bit of Justice Hill as much Henry as possible, and
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: then like mixing and Dobbins will obviously fill in it,
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: fill in a ton.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm interestingly, even with the Lamar ownership, we've got
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: just the dry run up here in Ship Tomizer. It shows,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: you know, eighty four percent on one hundred and fifty lineups,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: is giving us all these different combinations even Tyland Wallace
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: you know is in there because obviously nosey. So it's
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: just pumping a bunch of these overstacks with Lamar. And
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: that is the one interesting thing because I tend to
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: agree with you, I think, I mean, obviously I think
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: people go Nico Collins over Joe Mixon. So that's different positions,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: but at least picking it from that team, not putting
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: multiple people most likely, but outside of game stacks. But
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: this is interesting that because the Ravens' overstacks look popular
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: in an optimizer, I'm not sure how many will adjust
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: for that. You can actually fit Henry and Mixing together
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: quite easily.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Wide receiver, real quick. It must be Nico Collins that's
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: not getting much in our builds, yes, exactly, So that's it, yep.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: So he's the one left out based on our projections.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Right, And I don't know. Again, we'll see how it
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: actually ends up shaping out, because I don't think people
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: are going to feel as good about these, you know, Bateman,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: Aglo or Wallace. We know they want the tight ends
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: more so that will be able to boost it up
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: there for tight end. We still have Schultz coming in
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: much higher than everybody else but then Andrew's un likely
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: just behind that, so we'll see. I tend to agree
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: with you, though, Hope. I think that mixing is the
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: one that gets squeezed because people will go to Collins
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: if not nobody there, and be able to pick and
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: choose their other spots after King Henry, Who's going to
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: be extremely popular for good reason on this slate. So
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I like that the guzz Edwards thing. I think him
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: and Justice Hill are the two that are in play.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: I you know, we'll see how the field actually ends up.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I think everyone ought to assumes kind of like you
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: guys title broke it down perfectly, you'd want Warren because
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: they're down. I think the field assumes that they're gonna
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: be losing the Ravens. Why wouldn't it go to him?
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: I think you have to remember it, does you know.
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of these games, and it does
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: start with nause and then it just depends on how
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Nase goes. He has looked pretty good, and if they're
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: what you think they're gonna want to do, they're gonna
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: try their ass off to keep Lamar off the field
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: as much as humanly possible. They have the defense there
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: that can do it. They know him a little bit better.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's gonna work. I'm just saying that
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: could lead to more nause touches than everyone's sort of thinking.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: And then it's you know, hoping on Jalen Warren down
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: the stretch. So I like both those guys to mix
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: into the pool, but I think you're building them accordingly
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: within your lineups. I talked earlier liking mix and over Collins.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I probably now go to my you know, Collins going
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: into my Stroud lineups to to get all the way there,
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: and then obviously the Herbert runbacks. But yeah, I think
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: that's the setup here. And then a little bit of
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Guz Edwards. He can get you two three touchdowns. And
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: if you got a lineup where you need it to
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: find space, and if JK. Dobbins is in there, it's
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: not even the questionable tag or whatever else. It's just
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: find the money and just hope that it goes your
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: way in that spot. It's a perfect way to do it.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Drop down to Guz Edwards and then see what that
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: does for your builds. Or you could literally just build
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: your best JK. Dobbins lineups and then put Gus Edwards
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: in instead on a slate like this and just hope
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: he steals the touchdowns and gets there. So I don't
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: know who you got anything else to add from that.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: If not, you could take us into wide receiver.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: That's a good call. I mean, that's definitely the way
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: to do it on these smaller slides, and we've seen
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: it be successful in the past where you just don't
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: play the starter and you just go to the backup
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: running back. I think it was Squirrel Patrol. I don't know,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: it was like last year or something with the who
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: was it was Jerome Ford was backing job. Yeah, and
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: that that sort of build got the job done because
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: nothing else in that lineup looked all that crazy. It's
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: just like that. I mean, it's it's gonna be a
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: super low owned unowned stuff. I mean, there's a chance
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: those guys don't see the field. I mean, that's the
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: one rest you're running. But again it's you know, if
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: they get blowout time, I mean, you're playing those guys
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: to either injury or massive blowout basically is what you're
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: looking for.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Very accordingly. For sure, it's a few lineups because you're
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: building that exact route not just the route of what
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: way you're going with your roster construction, but the route
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: of the Steelers getting crushed by the Ravens. I personally
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: don't see that, and it's not a homer or like
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: a protection piece. I just think the Steelers can do enough.
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: It's you know, the spreads ten, it's not twenty here
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: or something like that. I also think that it's what
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: we talk about. Tomlin is just gonna grind it and
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: still lose. But he's gonna grind it, grind it, grind
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: it as much as he can. They're gonna try and
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: stick around. They'll be down fourteen, down seven, down fourteen,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: and then maybe they end up losing by a little.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: But that type of gain doesn't necessarily lean towards that.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: So again, just build accordingly anytime you're doing something like that.
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: But a good call out there go ahead.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: One more thing that running back, So Haskins, do you
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: guys think Gus just takes all of haskins work? Because
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Haskins was getting a good amount, especially at the goal line.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: Man, my voice is so annoying.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: He was plus four hundred, Yeah, go ahead.
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: He's plus four hundred to score.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Guses is better but the reason I'm not playing Gus
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: is I think Haskins and him might rotate a little
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: bit in that same role, and if Gus Ball's in
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: once like that still might not be enough. There's real
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: people at the position. So any thoughts on with Gus.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Now back the Haskins.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Stuff, my thought was that Haskins was getting I know
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: that everyone talks about it all the time with Harbaugh there,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: loves them and they want to get him involved in
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. And people liked Vidal remember too, and
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Haskins was even getting his. But I think it's a lot.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: I think it was a product of Gus being out.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: They went out and got Dobbins and Gus Edwards, the
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Harbaugh brothers knowing all the situation, both those guys coming
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: over from the Ravens. So don't I don't know, We'll see.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't hate if you want to roll to Haskins
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: instead there, especially in your large field stuff. That's again
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: where you can just make that pivot. What if it's
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: late in the game, what if it's early and they
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: use them from some goal line stuff? Who knows, But yeah,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: the props can't be that different on those two, are
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: they like, you know, is Gus way ahead.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: Of them plus two twenty five for Gus to score
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: plus four hundred for Haskins.
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: So decent, get better.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: The worst that's gonna be like the worst bets in
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: sports betting straight up, straight up betting touchdown scores like
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: you gotta do like a parlay or something. I mean,
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: those odds are just so just glaringly awful.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: DJ chart plus two ninety five.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Stop. Yeah, that is just robbery. They're robbing people on those.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: That is insane, insanity. I don't think many people bet
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: them straight up though. I mean a lot of times
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: people have the touchdown props. It seems like they're parlaying
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: a bunch together and hoping that they hit.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: That might even be worse parlay the trip got worse
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: odds keep going.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no market?
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: Can you get like a no market opposite that, because
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: even though it's a big boy number, it may actually
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: be value if it's that bad on the other side,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's crazy, it's predatory. Did
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: you have anything to add on that one hoop? If not,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: you know, if you do, go ahead, if not, to
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: us into the wide receiver stuff.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, nothing to really have their wide receiver. Like
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: I said, I mean, the one thing that definitely stands
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: up is this could be a low scoring position for sure.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: I mean wide receiver, especially on DraftKings with the full
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: PPR that you can rack points up. But this could
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: be a low scoring position. You got Nico Collins, and
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: you got Lad McConkie. Nico at seven eight, McConkie at
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: six eight. After that, there is risk with any other
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: click on the slate. In my opinion, I think the
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: floor is low low. People are gonna feel good about Bateman,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: and rightfully so Nose Jones. He's looked good, He's had
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: big games. If Baltimore gets out to a big, big
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: lead here, Bateman is not getting the job done. If
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: they get if they get out early, early lead, if
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: they get up fourteen nothing or something like that, Bateman
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: likely busts. George Pickens has looked like absolute shit last week.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: It was terrible. That connection with Russ appears to be gone.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: I mean it was solid at some points in the season.
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: It looks bad. Quintin Johnson, people are gonna feel good
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: playing because of the massive game last week. He has
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: no lock to follow that up. If falls off quick
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: so I'm going to be willing to take some chances
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: at the position. You guys kind of touched on it
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: earlier when when talking through it. Guys like John Metchi,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: guys like Nelson Aguilar, Guys like Tylan Wallace, Like Tyler
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: Wallace takes one to the house for sixty yards, that's
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: probably good enough on the slate, Hutchinson, like you guys
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: talked about Robert Woods. So there's a lot of guys
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: that I'm willing to just gamble on at the wide
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: receiver position. Do you talk about DJ Chark and talked
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: about his touchdown prop but thirty one hundred I saw
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: his asking a red zone target last week. That interests me.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Darius David did he score? Did he score it? Yeah? Yeah?
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: So he did score it, yeah, Darius Davis. Maybe that's
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: guy I'm thinking of that maybe didn't convert on his
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: but he's I think he or.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Did he get called back?
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: He definitely, I know he had a big he had
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: some sort of play for sure, his name was called.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: I know his name was called, But no Josh Palmer.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: He got called back yet, So no Josh Palmer. I
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: guess we didn't really talk about. But that's somewhat significant
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: with this passing attack. So Darius Davis, Tylan Wallace, Nelson, Aguilar,
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: John Metchi, guys like that. I want to take chances
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: on those guys at wide receiver, and that will be
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: in lieu of George Pickens shares, That'll be in lieu
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: of Rashad Bateman shares. Like I'm not getting to the
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: big ownership numbers on Pickens or Bateman. I'm gonna play them,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, but it is not going to be,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: you know, close to fifty percent. Like I'm fine passing
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: on that. Nico Collins, though, I think, is another guy
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: that has a chance maybe to go a little lower own.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Then we're anticipating, you know, based on the one thing
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: I did look up, we have a lower number, which
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: I'm fine with. Like you, I don't. I don't want,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: ever want our projections to be the same as the industry,
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Like I never want that to be the case. And
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: that's one thing we pride ourselves on. We put our
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: we run our process. We want to run our projections,
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: and we stick with that. We don't look at what
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: other sites are doing and make adjustments. By the end
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: of the week. You go around the industry, everyone's very
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: similar on a number because they don't want to be
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: an outlier. We happen to have lower number on Nico
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: Collins this week compared to the industry, four to five
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: points lower in some spots, which you know, we're fine with,
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: you know, rolling with that, But I do think Nico
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: Collins has a chance to come in a little lower
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: own If people spend, they're gonna want Lamar, they're gonna
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: want Derrick Henry, they might want, you know, Joe Mix,
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: And I think Collins has a chance to maybe get
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: squeezed little, but he's gonna have substantial ownership, but I
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: think there's a chance gets squeezed, like maybe maybe a
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: little bit, So I want to prioritize like Nico in Ladd,
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: it seems like just one of those guys for sure
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: is getting there. I don't even hate a rule, and
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: you're probably going to get this on most of your teams,
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: so it's nothing crazy, but like having one of those
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: two in all my lineups, and again it's probably going
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: to naturally happen when you build teams. You probably don't
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: need to force that in, but I really want to
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: make sure that I have one of those two Nico
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: and Lad and then after that, I'm willing to take
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: risks at this position on all those guys I mentioned.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: They're all, you know, despite the situation pretty low on
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: not seeing much ownership on all those random guys that
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: I rattled off. So I think there's gonna be, you know,
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: some surprises at this position in terms of the optimal
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: team and what wins it at the end of the day.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: So I want to embrace some variants at wide receiver
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: on this two game slate.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, title, I'll go to you on this. I just
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: popped it up. I think, like, to me, who has
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: to be correct on this one because we're already projecting lower,
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: which I love because I hope there is. I'm actually
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: again way I'm way lighter on him than the other
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: guys at that similar price point on this slate. But
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: I think so would most be to Hoop's point. So
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: if I see this lineup, you can't really do anything.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: This is already two tight ends that are popular and
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: cheaper Quinton. If people are expecting the follow up game Bateman,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: who were getting ninety percent of in our runs, he's
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: just five k nose and then you put Collins. If
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: you're cutting someone here, or even if maybe you're not,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: I think the general public is chopping out Nico here
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: to get that money back. I don't think they're going
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: away from Henry. And again, we know that you could
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: see these builds, which is your point earlier title. Not
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: to rattle off here, but just I get it. At
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: least this one's more viable. And that's why I think
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: you nailed it earlier that we're gonna see even more
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Herbert than expected, because then people are already got Lamar covered,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: I got Derek Henry. That's not necessarily true. If Henry
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: runs in for one in eighty or something and Lamar
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: throws for three, well then you got problems probably. But
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: what's your thoughts on that title with Nico and then
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: take it from there.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Nico's one of my favorite plays on this late
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: eighty seven. I mean, I think he's a top five receiver. Anyway,
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: He's gonna get owned. But I tot like, you can't
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: play everyone at the end of the day. And back
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: to what you just said with the Herbert stuff versus Lamar,
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: I think people will lead into the Herbert stuff, not
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: people aren't gonna play Lamar, but your lineup looks a
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: lot better when you do. Go Herbert with that two
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: thousand up what Hoop said, I just made the rule.
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: I think almost all my lineup's probably had one of
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: lad Nico, but I just jammed that rule. Like the
• 41:52
  Speaker 3: receiver positions so soft. If one of those two aren't there,
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: I'll live to fight on Sunday. Emma is going on,
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: there's Monday. There's a lot of cheese to be made
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: this week, so that is something I'm gonna do again.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: Most builds probably will get you there. I'm gonna be
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: underway Pickens, no doubt about that. Like I test, I mean,
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: I don't love the Steelers. When I am playing Steelers,
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: it's the Calvin Austin's the cheap friar Mouth cheap or
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: one of the running backs that are pretty different at
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: that position. I mean, we're still getting forty. We have
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: George Pickens. Yeah, no, thank you. I definitely will be
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: way under the field on that. The Bateman stuff, I'm
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: gonna have to play because I'm playing a lot of Lamar,
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: but there's other guys and I want you to touch on.
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: Like with Ageler coming back, he's missed the last three weeks.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: Tylan Wallace got a lot of snaps, seventy three percent
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: of snaps this defense is Walker guy got twenty one percent.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: I'm wondering what you think that split's gonna be. Obviously
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: nosey with Aglar Wallace. Obviously we know the Ravens run
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: a lot of two tight end sets. I will be
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: playing Aglar, I will be playing Wallace even more so
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: in my Lamar teams Herbert. Again, I'm not playing as
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: many Herbert team I'll still have a decent amount when
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: I do play him. DJ Hark looks really interesting for
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: low ownership. He had forty seven or forty nine percent
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: of snaps last week, thirty one percent for Davis. So
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: those are two guys that I'm more likely to use
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: when I play Herbert teams. Again, it's running backs thin
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: tight end. When we get there, they're gonna get a
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: lot of ownership. But I think the receiver position in
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: these bums, I'm hoping one of them get there, and
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna play more of these bums with.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: My starting quarterback.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: So Herbert Davis, Chark, I prefer Chark, Agilars Wallace when
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: I play more Lamar. Then when I'm playing CJ, you
• 43:36
  Speaker 3: have Woods, Hutchinson and Metchi Mechi and Deontay Johnson. He
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: played thirty seven percent of snaps. Like people know Deontay
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: Johnson's good. They went out and got him. That's definitely
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: something I'm gonna lean into, like they're gonna throw the
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: ball out. I love Nko, but all those other guys
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: are gonna be pretty low owned. That is what makes
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: me appealing with CJ. And then I can jam Derrick Henry,
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: I can jam mix it, I can do whatever I
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: want and eat more chalk that way, So love lad
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: Love Nico will be way underway Pickens. And you had
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: those secondary plays, the Davis, the charts, Aglar's Wallace, Woods,
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: all that gonna play, I'm gonna play and even more
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: so when I am playing that quarterback on that team.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: But I want you to touch on a little Aglar Wallace.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: How you see That's what.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: Going alre this week's Quinton Johnston, guy that can never catch.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: You even saw the videos, remember the old one. Buddy
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: said he came up to the house and he was
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: talking about the fire or something. He's like he can
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: dropped that thing like Nelson Agelore, Like that's what you know.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Everyone knows that's a situation, but I just don't know.
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: It's you know, someone mentioned earlier in the chat and
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: you gotta remember that too. That's it's the playoffs. So
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: when he gets to the playoffs, it's set up more
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: of just stick with their guys, and it's is Tyland
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Wallace is gonna be their guy. That's what It's tough
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: to you know, tough to balance. I'm gonna play him
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: in DFS, of course, because that's how you set your lineups.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Apart the charts, the Deontay Johnson's, the Darius Davis, like
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: you said, it was Hoop called it was an end
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: zone target that he didn't get. So it's like he
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: was still in the mix and he at thirty one
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: percent of the snaps, probably preferred shark just based on
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: more snaps three targets caught a touchdown, big dude in
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: the end zone. I think that he can catch one
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: for them, so I could see that that makes it interesting,
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: especially because he's less than Quinton Johnston, who people may
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: chase and follow up. I like lad a ton on
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: this late at sixty eight hundred, his props aren't that
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: much lighter than Nico. They'd probably get similar ownership, But
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: that's a thousand bucks. It's not that you need the money.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: I just like that call. It's it's he can get
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: it in tons of different ways, these splash plays across
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: the board. So I like him. I like the backups,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: the guys behind Nico for the Texans, and then I
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: like the Agalore and Calvin Austin's. Like I said, I
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: like all these little plays that no one can get to,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: and they're just gonna play cheaper tight ends because of that,
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: I think it's also a spot to exploit where it well,
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: it could be very low scoring. It could be the
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: same for tight end if everyone just ought to assumes
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: two tight ends, and it's got to be that. It
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: could just be that you need one of these tight
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: ends that goes off and then it ends up being
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: one of these back up wide receivers that you know
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: nobody's playing. So I'm gonna embrace that a little bit.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Just from an overall roster composition as well. I know
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a ton of two tight end lineups
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: and we all know why, and that's fine. Hopefully they're
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: built differently. And you know, not who you play, it's
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: how you play them. But I am going to embrace
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: some of these backup wide receivers and do two things.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: One that I just said, play some play some four
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: wide receiver lineups or three running backs and then using
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: those cheaper wide receivers. And then two, just leave some
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: money on the table instead of Quentin Johnston DJ Chark bang,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: who gives a shit? It's literally the same thing. It
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: could be. Again, it wasn't last week. Yes, come correct me,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: but it doesn't matter. This week is not last week,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: and it's a two games late. So I'm doing a
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: ton of stuff like that. But I think title they'll be.
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: I feel like it's Agalore, you know, coming back, more
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: than it's gonna be making Tyland Wallace a thing. I'll
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: still have Wallace like I'll have Darius Davison Chark on
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: the Chargers game.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I agree with you. And again the field
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: will go that way too. Wallace could be three percent
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: agular like seventeen. But I had to go bowl my
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: nose step away. But you have me dying with the
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: aggle talk. I just had to pull up the video
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: again because the Philly Fires they're throwing like babies out
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: like he goes, we're catching them, unlike Alar literally the
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: most serious interview and he got the biggest ray so.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: So random, so random and just so good, like out
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: of all the bad wide receivers in the NFL that
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: dropped passes his ass throat Nate Nelson.
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: When he was back on the Eagles, he's Philly does
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: really care about their.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: It's people always go to someone who crushed them. I
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: guarantee you that guy had Agalore drop a pass for
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: like a parlay or something that he had and days
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: in his mind. When I was in Nashville at the
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Fantasy Football World Championship, hoople like this. It was his boy,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: the the Oh's the mentalist was there. We got to
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: see the show and he ended up like knowing a
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: guy's bank pin code based on the Jersey numbers that
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: two random people in the crowd picked. And one of
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: the guys somebody picked was Marquez Valdez Scantling and it's like,
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: you know what happened there, but he got owned fast
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: because it's all DFS players in the room. It's a
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: private event. He got owned on NBS one day and
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: you just remember the drops title, You've been playing a
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: lot of poker. You know what you you remember when
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: your aces got cracked. You don't remember when your tens
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: cracked aces? Like, that's just I'm supposed to win. I'm
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: playing good.
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: I still mention Isaac Acorro from like five years ago, four.
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: Years ago with who.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: I've brought it up on Wednesday Show with real like
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: I will never literally what negative and ot play like
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: forty three minutes.
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: Time?
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: Finished backwards backwards? Yeah, it's like two or three fantasy
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: points forget.
• 48:37
  Speaker 3: I always yeah, like you always do as a DFS player,
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: for sure or over whatever it is for sure?
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Well we're getting into this lab. We're
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: getting tight end and then we're gonna defense. Is not
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: spend a bunch of time at, but you know, we
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: got to get this teed up for the end. You know,
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: this is a new bit that we're bringing in. What
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: is the hoop food take? Like I asked him a
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: pineapple on pizza the other day, title, So we got
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: to get another food take into the chat.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: I have a yeah, for sure, but I have a
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: feeling Title is not much of a pizza guy, you do.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I don't have it often because it's healthy.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: It's so healthy, Like I just I just didn't take it.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: If you if you like, we're not going to eat
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: healthy pizza, would potentially be a okay.
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: I love pizza for sure.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: Do you like pineapple on pizza? Though we're not? Okay?
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: No, I mean not that I wouldn't eat it, but
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: it's definitely way at the bottom, so.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: Not likely to put pineapple on pizza. But let's use
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: that to segue into tight end. Isaiah Likely, Mark Andrews,
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: Dalton Schultz, Disley Friarmoth. And then if you want to
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: get to some of these backups, you know, Darnel Washington,
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Katee Stover, Like, what are we doing at the tight
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: end position? Because a lot of people are playing tight ends.
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm also going to be playing them. I
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: like Lamar a lot, so I'll definitely be playing Andrews Likely.
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: You can play them both. You can do a lot
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: of different things like that. But also is fun about
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: tight end is drop a Pickens in the flex founded
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: Likely or something like that. You use the Johnston to
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: try I can drop the Bateman's the Pickens Johnston's of
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: the world to some of these like Friar Moose, the Disley's,
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: the Likely's of the world, the Schultz. So that is
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: when I do play two tight end teams that's really strong,
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: it's easier to leave money on the table, which is
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: definitely something I'm looking to do on the two game slates.
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: Really easy though, just those five ten ends.
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: Andrews likely probably my favorites, Dalton Schultz probably my third favorite,
• 50:24
  Speaker 3: because I'm gonna play a good amount of CJ. Disleey,
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: Friar Mouth two villains that I will be playing, but
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: clearly those five, I will have plenty of two tight
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: end bills and it's easier to leave money with them.
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: Is it.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: How does this build lose?
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: Hoop?
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: Like, look at this build I got up here. Yeah,
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: well exactly it might. It might win and just chop
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: one hundred ways, but you could still get a cheap
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: wide receiver who we've talked about with the defense, and
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: you've got everything else in there. So you gotta think
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: this is where we looked at it earlier, that this
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: stuff just stays super popular. There's gonna be Mark Andrews
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: likely lineups that are even comboed up way crazier than
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: they ever should be.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Realistic that looks Yeah, a lot of people have that
• 51:05
  Speaker 2: sort of.
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: Some sort of one of guys like, you know, you.
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: Sells itself out, you play a cheap defense, and then
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: you got like the you know, one of those cheap
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: wide receivers that, yeah, that'll be a move that a
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: lot of people may And then this is a question
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: a lot of people like can you play Andrews and
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: Likely together? And it's a two games late, absolutely, and
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: we talked about it with Likely. I don't know if
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: his last time out, but he's like wide receiver too
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: in this offense, like it's it's Bateman. They use Likely
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: as a wide receiver and then Andrews is the tight end.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: So I think Likely is a phenomenal, phenomenal play on
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: the slate, Like I think he's one of the best
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: plays on the slate, Like he's going to be used
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: as a wide receiver. They'll go deep down the field
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: with them, like we've seen it all season, Like he's
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: the real deal. He plays like a wide receiver. Love him.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: I'm going to continue on with the Mark Andrews stuff.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: For sure. We've been ahead of the curve on it.
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: I'm not going back. Like he's you know, he's back
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: to being Mark Andrews. Slow start to the season. I
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: think he had an injury or something early on, He's
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: back to being Mark Andrews. And now Zay Flowers is out,
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: so love him as well. Disley big boost to me
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: with Palmer out. I mean he's wide receiver two, wide
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: receiver three probably. I mean we like Chark, we talked
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: about him, Darius Davis, but Disley gets a massive increase
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: and I really like him. Andy's healthy. And then the
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: same with Dalton Schultz. Like no Tank Dell. They're decimated
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: at tight end, like he's probably wide receiver too. In
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: this offense, I'm looking at this tight end position and
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: I get that ownership is coming along with it. Don't
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: get me wrong, but a lot of these guys are
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: like wide receivers to me. They're not tight ends like
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: likely Disley Schultz. They're all benefiting from injuries in the offense.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: And you know, I don't really care what the ownership is.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: These guys are just way way too cheap for what
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: their role is going to be in these games. So
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: I love them. And then you know, with the Steelers,
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: shit on the Steelers all throughout the show, and you know,
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: Friarmouth is by far my favorite part of the Steelers offense.
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: So I don't know. I mean, I know a lot
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: of people are gonna have double tight end teams like
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: for sure, but I don't care. To me, these guys
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: are just really really good plays like I'll I'll do
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: different stuff elsewhere, like I'm fine just eating the chalk
• 53:21
  Speaker 2: or whatever you want to say at the tight end position.
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: To me, these guys are just way too cheap. They're all.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, a majority of them are benefiting from in
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: I mean four of the main five are benefiting from
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: a significant injury, the Ravens guys without Jay Flowers, Dalton
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: Schultz without Tank Dell and you know, Stefan Diggs and
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: then Will Disley without Joshua Palmer and he's back to
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: full house. So I just love these tight ends.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: Title. Let me ask you this, Like, Okay, Likely's gonna
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: be whatever, He's gonna be a lot, and that's fair,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: and I'm with whop. I actually love to play with
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: Isaiah Likely here. But I'm just gonna say I probably
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: don't play these two specifically together in in overstacks unless
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: I have at least one thousand dollars left on the table.
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: Like this build, there's gonna be a million versions of
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: this that are literally the same thing in a large
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: field tournament. If you're playing a smaller field and you're
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: just looking to package them up, it's a great little
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: combo pack at that price point seventy nine hundred. But
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: this is right here where Tyland Wallace comes in. Right.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: You can plug in thirty one hundred here instead with
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: no ownership and then still get an overstack, get your
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: leverage built in, drop your product ownership, maybe get a
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: different d in a different final flex spot and get
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: a little bit different that way at least, you know,
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: somewhat for large field. But these are obviously great two
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: plays together. It's just I really struggle because this build,
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, you can do whatever you want, turn Lad
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: into Quinton. You got all the money again, Like I
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: don't know, this build just seems like it's gonna be
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: super super popular in many ways. You know combo's up for.
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: Sure, and that I'd like you mentioned a point like
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: lower in your product ownership. If you're using shift tomizer,
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: almost any optimizers have it. But what's nice about shiptimizer.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: You can go I want to jam at least one
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: guy ten percent. Maybe that's a little hard. So you
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: can do one under eighteen percent or two under eighteen,
• 55:05
  Speaker 3: or you build out the one fifty. You sort by
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: ownership in that, then you go down to total ownership
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: and you can lower that your salary.
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: You can go to forty nine eight, forty nine seven.
• 55:15
  Speaker 4: You can build in sets, a lot of different things
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: you can do. I'm in two games slates.
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: I would definitely utilize that the ownership and the forcing
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: stuff in lower owned because I'd agree with you. I
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: don't want that build right there. I'm fine chopped in
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: a couple of ways. I don't want to chop ninety
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: five ways, which that build looks like it could chop
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: a lot.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I know it's funny. I've knowed to
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: cut you off. But again, we get a lot of
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: people that you are watching the show, but I'm like,
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: well that looks amazing, and they just go plug it in.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: It's like, you know, you got to be thinking and
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: thoughtful of what you're doing there. I'm not saying you
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: can't play those two together. I'm not going to set
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: up a rule to not play Andrews and likely for
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: seventy nine hundred combo with nose flowers. That's that's not
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: what I'm doing. I'm saying I don't like where that
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: leads me to. So I would be much more comfortable
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: in that build where I just let Bateman whatever that
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: cool lineup looks like that you just handbuilt out there
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: as you're watching this, I can just drop Bateman to Agalore,
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: or I can drop Bateman to Agglore and lad to
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Quinton and just see what happens. I'm gonna take that
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: risk because that lineup is almost the same, same dudes
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: in the same places, but leave so much money that
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: others won't leave that I'm just naturally now turning it
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: into like a three person dupe or less or something
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: just automatic, just thinking off the top of my head,
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: right title, So you talk about it and Showdown all
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: the time. You can apply a lot of that to
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: two game slates as well.
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: Two game slates are a lot more like Showdown than
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: a classic name slate, not about how often you win.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: When you win, you'll be If you win one hundred
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: and fifty K, you can lose the next seven months,
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: assuming you keep that same bankroll, you'll be happy.
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: So absolutely.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: I still love that one. It's not how often you're right,
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: it's how much you win when you are right, and
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: just follow that. It's it's such a good one that
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: I follow quite a bit. And you know, you and
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: I have been shaking hands lately on these close calls
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: through six figure stacks. But what we say slates are massive, man,
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: five hundred k on this current slate we're talking about
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: to more brow and well, it's gonna get chopped if
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: it does, it's like five six seven ft. It's like
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: eight hundred thousand that's getting chopped up on a three
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: or four way chop. So to me, you're still gonna
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: have a great day. Nobody's ever complaining about that. A
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: million up top on Sunday. Even in the standard just
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: lottery twenty dollars, and there's lots of other good tournaments
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: that are one fifty, like one hundred and fifty dollars
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: three max one hundred dollars single entry, and you can
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: extrapolate those down. I know everyone says I don't have
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: that bankroll. There's great fifty dollars single entry. If you
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: go down from there, there's a great thirty three dollars,
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: a nice twelve dollars and eight dollars, Like you can
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: really play in whatever you want for your style of game.
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: And I love that about these slates. And they're staggered too,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: so you can have some advantage in between games. I
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: don't know title anything else you want to add.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: There, No, I do like that call, but with the
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: stagger games, like if you're looking at a team and
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: you see a snowflake, so you know you can't take first,
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: maybe just and you had some low owned pieces and
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: you're playing the min cash game at that point, you
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: know you can't take first, whereas if you have really
• 57:55
  Speaker 3: good flames, but you're like, oh, man, like let me
• 57:59
  Speaker 3: try and get a real example forty Mark Andrews. Shoot,
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: what am I trying to say? Just pretty much someone
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: in the first.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: Game lad busts.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, lad busts at sixty eight hundred and so
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: the picket, what I'm pretty much trying to say is
• 58:15
  Speaker 3: if there's a one v one that pretty much is
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: the same salary, and you lose that by two points
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: and you know that everyone else will have the same
• 58:22
  Speaker 3: two v two or whatever, that's when I make a
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: little pivot. You get off the two v two, but
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: you only need to make up two points to jump it,
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: whereas you know, you cannot take first place because you
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: are blocked out at every other position. So stuff like that,
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: that is when you rotate a little bit. So the
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: late swap stuff definitely important to keep in mind on
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: Steger starts.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll kick it back over to you, hoop. I
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: don't know if you want to add to anything else here,
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: but anything else for you to talk about with this? Uh?
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: No? No, I mean I agree. I mean, do you
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: want to touch on defense at all?
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: Or you can if you want, Like I guess one
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: take would be like last week the Ravens were, you know,
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: said to be severely under at thirty five hundred bucks,
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: and the ownership certainly showed that doesn't look like that
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: will be the case tomorrow. But what do you think?
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, even they only went up two hundred bucks
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: at home still, but not as big of a favorite
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: against a worse of an opponent.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: So what's your thought the problem I have with defenses,
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: Like I don't obviously want to play the Steelers at
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: twenty two hundred limited interest there the Texans are at home,
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: but man, the Chargers do such a good job of
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: limiting the turnovers, like justin Herbert, I don't know the
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: exact number, but it's it's very low in terms of
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: the turnovers. They just don't risk it a bunch. So
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: it's really hard to get excited to play the Texans
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: at twenty seven. You know, the Chargers against Houston, they've
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: been you know, their offense is not look great that
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: the Texans. So the Chargers look good, and then the
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: Ravens obviously look really good. So I'm just I'm just
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: rolling with one of the top two for the most part.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a lot of as much Ravens
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: as I can get, and then Chargers and then Texans
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: and then hopefully just stay fade the Steelers. It's just very,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: very difficult. But you know the argument against all that
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: is you can, you know, anything can happen at defense,
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: so if you want to do whatever, you can, But
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: I just really struggle with the Steelers and the Texans defense,
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: to be honest with you.
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, just the question that Chad asked, and then I'll
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: go to title on defense. But like back to what
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: I had there for two seconds, like about having the
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: balls to fade him or whatever with with Dereck Henry
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: let me sorry, take him out and go back to
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: get Lamar in. What does that leave us? Not too
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: much there? So I don't think that's the bill, But
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: let's say it's off Nico for somebody else. I guess
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: that's kind of my point though, is we had a
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: version of this. I forget exactly what it looked like,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: something like this I believe was close enough anyway where
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: this you can easily get to this because once you
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: put in either the Chargers or the Ravens, you've got
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: money for receivers that we've literally talked about. But that's
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: the whole point, Like that build is just going to
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: be so popular and it's good. And if it's a
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: smaller field, I got no problem because you're you're trying
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: to fit pieces around and get there. But you know,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: for me, in a large field tournament, I'm happily gonna say,
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: if Lamar really gets there the right way with his legs,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: with Bateman, with Andrews, with likely like all these guys
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: get in the mix, I don't care about anything like
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: plug this in and leave three grand on the table.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter because I'm saying the game went that
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: it hurt Derrick Henry. Maybe that would be that it
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: helps Jalen Warren because that's the guy we talked with
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: her down that much. That's what it could be. So
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: or maybe this is the spot you go back to
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: what our guy Jason brought up earlier, and you decide
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: to get a guy like Mitchell down the stretch. Lamar's
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: went off and it's with Bateman Andrews likely and you
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: can still get there that way. So lots of different
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: things that he can do. But everyone's just gonna go
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: max their money out immediately and try and finish the job.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: And that's what the problem. That's where the problem typically lies.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Once you max the money out, you kind of fall
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: into that camp title. Anything else on defense from you, well, I.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 4: Will say that Derrick Henry stuff.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, if you look at last game, they had
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: thirty three, but going into what the second half, maybe
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: even the four quarter, like it was two long runs,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: it was still like eleven. Yeah, So like that show
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: is anything can definitely happen. Defenses Texans are definitely my
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: least favorites. I would rather save the five hundred and
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: go Steelers. I'm fine playing Steelers against Lamar Lamar likes
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: using his legs like things can happen, especially in the
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: cole By far Ravens Chargers are my favorites. But I
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: mean it's so so random, like I'm not going to
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: exit on anythink out. If I played like ten teams
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: or less, maybe I'd ex Texans. But I think Ravens
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: Chargers are the best. But I definitely prefer Steelers, who
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: are pretty much half the ownership. It's looking like to
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 3: the Texans. I agree with Hoop like Herbert and then does.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: They don't make mistakes, they run the football, the play
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: actions good. Yeah, I mean Texans got Will Anderson, some
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: good pass rushers, but they're my least favorite. I prefer
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 3: Steelers for sure. That's five hundred you can lead to
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 3: get a little different.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with the with everything you just said, like
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: that's how I would feel about it. And I guess
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: the only thing about the Steelers, like he says, you
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: don't really need that saving, so it's not really for
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: the money as much as just what if. And also
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: the fact they've seen Lamar a bunch of times. You
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: got guys coming at them left and right. Again, I
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: don't see it being a big deal on this site.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: You could just play the popular defenses and leave the money.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: You can play tons of the popular defenses because they're
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: popular for good reason. Like last week, I know people
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: locked the Ravens in at thirty five hundred, so oh
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: they're sixty percent that's crazy or fifty whatever they were.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: The point was people had a hundred of them, So
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: what are you gonna say to them? Like, they've got
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty lineups with that D So they're
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: way ahead of you when you're spreading it out. So
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: there's tons of different ways you can get different at defense.
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: Nick asked them about can you just play them all
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: at twenty five? You just be underweight on Chargers and
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: Ravens slightly on Chargers probably, I don't know, pretty close,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: but you'll be overweight on Texans and that. But again,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: why not just build accordingly? You know, as long as
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: all your other rules make sense that I'm fine with it.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: But I would just look at that as you're building
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: it out. So food questions, soop, is that what we
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: made it to here?
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: That's what we made it too. We'll go through it.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: Let's just I can there's like four five I'll just
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: go rapid fire and see if anything sticks. How about that, like,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: if anything sticks, well, we'll continue on.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: I gotta start with this one. Black. This is the
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: number one that I saw, so I wanted to start with.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: I mean absolutely not like that is disgusting. I do
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: like I do like red liquor. I like red vines.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: You guys like red vines if you.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: Like Twizzlers, they're called but.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, twizzlers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, So it's like it's a
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: different huh.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know what the red it actually like peels
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 4: off and right.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, it's a brand. It's
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: different than Twizzler. It's called red Vines. They are very good, different,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: different flavor than the Twizzlers. So if you like red liquorice,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: try red vines there. I mean so good. Actually they'll no,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: they do have those. I mean that's that's a different
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: that's something. I don't know who makes those. But red
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: vine is different. It's a different like do they have.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: A hollow middle like a Twizzler where the hard red nubs.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: No, no, no no, it's a little thicker than a
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: it's just a different brand. But I'm telling you the
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 2: flavors phenomenal. Put that on your list. If you like twizzlers, man,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: do try some red vines. Redvine?
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: Are you? Are you in or out on nubs though?
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: Non hollow red liquors like in for sure?
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: I really like uh the uh there's green apple ones
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 2: that I really like that are not non hollow. All right, good?
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: Any thoughts there?
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: No, No, I don't. I'm out on nubs. I'm out
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: on chewing on nubs. I'll say that.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: No, No, you're not a nubber, not a nub chewer. No,
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, though. Find red vines, man, if they
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: do have the hollow, they have the hollow inside, you'll
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: love them. So this one. So this is where things
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: get good for me because if I was gonna choose
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: something to eat like that, my favorite sort of thing
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: is Mexican related, tacos, burritos, nachos, anything along the Mexican
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: side of things, like I'm in on. So I love
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: Mexican food probably my favorite style of food. So definitely tacos.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: And if we're going in order of these, these three
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: would be in this order tacos and then chicken wings
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: and then burgers. But I I will say about burgers
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: is I started doing the smash burgers this summer on
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: the Blackstone. Smash Burgers on the Blackstone are phenomenal, phenomenal, phenomenal,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: So it would be close probably between chicken wings and burgers,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: but those Blackstone Burgers man out of the real deal.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: So we're gonna flip this one the title too for
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: a ranking, right quick. Everybody likes all this stuff most likely, but.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, it all depends on the day. Like, that's
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: really tough.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: I have a really good Mexican joint b I mean
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: with the nice burrito, so maybe i'd go that. I
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: can't even rank that because it really depends on the day.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: That's some of my three favorite foods.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: So damn healthy though, It's like, man, like this is
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: all with the asterisk. This dude is like a very
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: healthy eater. I don't.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 3: I have days where I don't eat healthy, Like there's
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: I have cheat meals and it's cheating part of the
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: cheat meals.
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a little known fact. I'll give my no ranking neat.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: I like them all, but it's a big gap because
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: my favorite food in the world, you can only pick
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: one thing, is on this list. I make chicken wings
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: over anything else. That's my favorite. Any was that a
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: real chicken wing?
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: Or is that by far the worst nowadays? Like it
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: is terrible, Like I remember when when wings became popular,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: it was b does be does be dubs? It is
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: like it's by far got to be the worst chicken wing.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: Which now there's a lot more options, which is nice,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: there's a lot more chicken wing joints out there. But
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: b doves is falling. Bacon being used absolutely not man
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: like I think that's if I'm eating bacon donut. No,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: hell no. If I'm eating like a dessert or something like,
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: I do not want like bacon in it. So no,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: that's a big, big no.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: From maple bacon donut. It's a honey glazed bottom with
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: like a cream glaze on like an icing, and then
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: they put they sprinkle real bacon on top. It's amazing.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: So that one for sure out for sure anything title, I.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: Mean, I'm with who, I think I'd be fine, But
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: I would choose a lot of other flavored donuts.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: And give me like sprinkles or something else on top
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: of a donut before I go to bacon, Like, give
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: me more.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: This is a good one. This is a good one.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: You can rapid fire.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: This is an easy one for me because I fucking
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: hate McDonald's. If I'm choosing a fast food place, McDonald's
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: would probably be the last place I would I would choose, like,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: if I want something like this, I'd much rather have Windy's.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: I'd much rather have like Chick fil A. So this
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: is tough for me. I will say the fries at
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: McDonald's are good, and I would just go with something
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: probably like a crispy chicken sandwich or some sort of
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: chicken sandwich. If I'm hungover, though, and like I just
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: need to pick up something quick, I will get a
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: double cheeseburger.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: So that's where I'm quarter pounded with cheese. What's yours?
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, quarter pounders, good, big mac. I rarely go to McDonald's.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: Too, though, sane, it's very very rare.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. For dessert, I do. I do like to dive
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: into dessert. I'd say like the older I get, the
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: more I kind of like chocolate stuff, So I like brownies. Man,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with a nice, solid brownie.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: I hate chocolate desserts for the most part. Title yours, Yeah.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: I love chocolate. I would probably say nice, good, old
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 3: fashioned ice cream. Any anyone that knows handles I don't
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 3: know if probably not by you Canadian, not by you either,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: I know originated Indiana, but handles some of the best.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: Ice cream you know I like, is a tear Massou
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: cake or like a carrot cake. I usually like the
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: if I'm going.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: I don't you know, I'm not a big are you eighty?
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: That sounds like an eighty year old? That's good, that's
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: like an elderly. Yeah, but that's like the elderly people
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: love that shit carrot cake and Tara Massou.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we needed this because we know this is where
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: Hoop gets off the wagon again.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: I think he hinted that it last time.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: Right, I hate eggs. I think eggs are just like.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: That and if you have them, you have them hard, right.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: You don't like the yolk.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: I just don't even need eggs, like, I don't. I
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: just like the There's no form of egg that I like,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: like it's like the texture of it. I just it's
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: disgusting to me.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: That's why i'mbout to weigh more than you soon, because
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: you ain't getting that protein.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: Not after the holidays again. I get two pounds over
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: the holiday sues. I think I got your beat.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: Now, okay, he's out on eggs. Let me flip this
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: to idle omelet scrambled, or let's do over easy pretty
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: standard or hard boiled. I could have put in there,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: but let's do over easy, like just to say, dip
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: the oolk type thing scrambled omelet. If you had to
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: rank them, what's your order?
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 3: I like four over easy pretty much every day on
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 3: avocado toes so and then I would go omelet, then scramble.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: I like omelet. I like omelet and scrambled because I'm like,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: you can put all the meats, the veggies and stuff.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: So actually I'll do that, though I'll do like the
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: like meat meat eaters omelets with with meat lovers and
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: meat lovers with cheese, like I'd make it like, you know,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: very very unhealthy. I guess if I was gonna go
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: with that.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: Nice omelet A title to start the day, thousand calories
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: and cal high protein. Hear up, this man's got this
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: thing decked out twelve hundred calories deep. We will say,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: I don't like we're in on this. We talked real
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: cheese last time, but I got like emails. Literally That's
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: why people are you know, some people are leaving. That's fine,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: we're doing now. But I will say I got literal
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: email to infod ship a nation and I'm like, oh,
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: customer service, No, no, no, they're saying, my play. My
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: kid tried the mail on the sandwich and it's an
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: absolute game changer. Thank you guys.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: I was, but wouldn't it make the bread like super soggy?
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: Like I don't know, I feel like like butter, And
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: then you're once you try it on the heat, it's
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: just searing it in. It's actually good.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 4: I was.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: I was in on it.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: So did you try it? Or you have tried it?
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: I've had it before. We talked about it last. But
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: that's why I brought it up. I knew it was
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: a thing. I remember it being fine. It's like I'm
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: going out to make these. I don't eat a lot
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: of grilled cheeses. But I got two small kids right
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: that are seven and four. So we'll mix it into
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: the bunch sometimes just to see how it goes. Grass
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: fed butt is the way to go though, By the way,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: butter and put that on there. Damn what else we got?
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: Red vines makes it more crispy, so just the opposite.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: Who crispy, that's what he said. To try it.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's like, I don't cook much of the house,
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: but my kids absolutely love when I make grilled cheese.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: I just, you know, just it's the most basic grilled
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: cheese ever. But I put more two slices of singles,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: not one, so they love it extra duty and stuff.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: So uh yeah, for sure. I mean I'm good with either,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: Like I get it. The problem now with like the
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: boneless chicken wings a lot of places, it's just so
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: much more breading that they put on there. So like
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: if you get these boneless chicken like be doves, it
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: gets all it is is the breading now and you
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: get like a little tiny piece of chicken. So I've
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: kind of transitioned back to traditional style or just.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: Say the truth. Like it's literally not a chicken wing.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: It's literally just a chicken strip or a chicken nugget.
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: It is not a wing that there's no bone, Like,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: it doesn't even make any sense.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, anything else. Arby's a freaking big old roast beef.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: I used to eat that stuff. I haven't been the
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: Arby's in a while.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: Man, so bad. The meat just looks dirty man.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but yeah, I remember back in the day getting
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: those what is it the beef and cheddar where they
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: just load up the cheddar and it's kind of dripping off.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: But it does look like so gross.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: You get a piece of roast beef and look at it,
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: and man, it's it's a nasty looking thing.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: Take out a piece of that roast beef and just
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: give a little fling for two seconds. It's like greeny
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: and like oily and weird. Like I'm out all the
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: way out on that.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 2: Here's the three and four for Tambo's dessertless where there's
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: and a head onto his whatever.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: The hell that is what you eat at the elderly home,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: like you said, actually that's what they're eating up over
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: there or whop needs to you know, get something a
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: little easier to chew on. After his jaws busted up
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: from the well done steaks, you might have to move on.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: I can't wait till I cannot wait till it's grilling season.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: I'm going live on the on this channel and then
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: teach you guys a lesson, boys, a lesson. All right.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 2: It actually is pretty sad on the steak thing because
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: my daughter, she's what eleven she or twelve? She's into steaks.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: She likes steak and she likes it cooked less than
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: I do. So that's it. That's like.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: Is seven and eats it like a medium rare and
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: gets excited.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah that's how Yeah, so you're weird, man, that's you're weird. Yeah.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: People people don't respect it, and you get a lot
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: of dirty looks. But it's just I can't go away
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 2: from it. Boys, It's just I think it's it's it's
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: one of those things. That's how I was. My dad
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: was the same way. Not a red meat guy, but
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: if you ever ate red meat, it would be well done.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: So I've always had well done even as a kid.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: So I think it's just something that you know.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: Just what about like a blood burger. I know it's
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: got to be the same. But if you ever go
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: to like a barbecue or a cookout or something and
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: they're cooking burgers, you got to go up and tell them, like,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: I'm out on one of those.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: I just eat around the edges because the edges. I've
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: been in this situation before and a lot of times
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: like the outside has cooked a little bit more, so
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: just kind of nibble around the edges and leave the middle.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 4: So that's why he had burgers last, because.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: No one.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: He hates it.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you guys don't like the red burgers to Yes,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: of course you don't.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: In Canada. They're too scared to even serve them up here.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: So it's only if you make it yourself with like
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: a nice ground chuck. It's like a steak burger essentially,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: so why would you be cooking it all the way?
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: That's the point. But if you go to a restaurant
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: in Canada, you can't even ask for it. They won't
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: even because they're too scared to risk it because they
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: think you're gonna get sick or something. It goes.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: My family does the good old the ground or the
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 3: high class ground beef on rye bread and onion without
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 3: cooking it at all.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 4: You would puke on that.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: That sounds amazing to me.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not my favorite.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 3: It's a salt onion, but it's just the raw beef
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 3: high class you put on rye bread onions.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 4: I can't remember someone in the chatl know what it is.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: You would. I do have some support, man, I told
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: you guys last time. The support started started piling on
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: a little bit as we started having these conversations.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: So you got one guy coming or what too?
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: They said that, they said, in the African American community,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: it's a it's knowing things. So I'm in. I'm in
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: with that crew now.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: They said, one hundred and sixty seven.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: Crew.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: They said, some people say you can come to my
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: barbecue any day. A yeah, tartar that It is all right, boys,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: I think that's it. We got the even got the
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: rapid fire food takes, will keep them coming. We always
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: get through the content first, so nobody gets mad. We
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: make sure it's all through. But I think people love
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: the food takes and we're gonna keep them rolling. It's
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun. And each time they seem to
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: come up with them. That's why I cut you off.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: I love the black liquorice. One was the best.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: One yet, likenes man. That's that's the one thing that
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: I need you to do. Get some red vines.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not going to be in Canada. You gotta
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: you gotta have.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: Them on Amazon. If not, then I send you you know,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: I send you packages from time to time. I will
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: put some red vines Amazon. Yeah. Yeah, telling you guys,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: just get so you'll have it tomorrow or the next day.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you it's it's a game changer in the
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: licorice side of things.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's why. Right, it makes sense now the
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: smack smash delicious, But just noting that it does make sense.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: The one thing you sent me, speaking of sending me
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: stuff that is incredible and we don't got them up here,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: dots pretzels.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah good, you don't have these.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: Are like bad for your health. Like I got there's
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: so a bag way over there. I ate the bag.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: Then I ate eighty percent. I'm like, oh, I didn't
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: eat them all though, but you ate a bunch of them,
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: and you're like, I'm an idiot. That was bad. They're
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: so good though.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: See I'm getting respected. I'm putt they're putting respect on
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: my name.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: Now I'm going that's the last thing of respect you're
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: getting compared to that bomb.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 5: That is.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: And I hate it because I'll haunt Tambo forever the
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 3: one week he does anything, but that is.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: Not by the way, boys, King of the Desert this week,
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: so I'm trying to get down to see title in Zona.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: So I got to get through round one this week.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: It starts this week and golf. But the NFL one
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: is golf. Didn't play already but golf, and so everyone's
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: sweating the cut line for that. Someone send me the
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: link in the discord. Maybe Kenny will have it, but
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: I want to follow that. But for for football, they're
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: doing it on the three Gamer. They're sticking to Sundays
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: and it goes tomorrow. You get through, it's one fifty.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: If you get to the top, it's next Sunday you
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: play the divisional round and then if you get through
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: that to the top twenty this year. Last year it
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: was only fifteen. But you get through to the top twenty,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: you go to the waste Management Phoenix Open, which is
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: like the worst part of it. Even though I love Arizona,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 1: I just don't. I almost don't want to attend that
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: for like the sixth time I've been doing enough. It
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: was a disaster last year. I just want to hang
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: out with people. So I'll go and I'll hang out
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: with a title and everybody else and all the good
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: people down there. But hopefully I can get through so
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: that I can make that a thing. But we'll see,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna do it. Let's get it done.
• 1:18:32
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• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: talk about any marketing on the show, but there is
• 1:18:36
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• 1:18:39
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• 1:18:45
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• 1:18:48
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• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: and that's just the deal instead of ninety nine bucks.
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  Speaker 1: That's one hundred percent the way I would recommend to go.
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: But for NFL, you can just do even the monthly
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  Speaker 1: right now and just lock in the rest of the
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: month and you'll get right through Super Bowl. Because we
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: just crossed one day, so these packages will be changing
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: back to annual for people that want to wrap the
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: entire season through till next year and get a deal.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: But just to note, the monthly deal is the way
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: to go for NFL only if you're looking at it now,
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: anything else, Hoop, you want to add to this stuff.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: I know we didn't talk about it a ton throughout
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: the show.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, big, big weekend. We got the Big two game
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: slate on Saturday, we have the MMA slate and then
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: the slate on Sunday and then the Monday Showtown slate.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be a fun three days. And you know,
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: everyone out there, good Luck's let's start strong and go
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: all the way through this week and have a big weekend.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, should be a good one. Excited for it for Hoop,
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  Speaker 1: for title, and for myself. TOTEG and tambo Let ship.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 5: It names have names.