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- 0:04Marine protected areas work well when they are truly protected and protection works when it is real.
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- 0:24All right, let's talk about marine protected areas in this episode.
- 0:28Fully protected, well-enforced marine protected areas are often called
- 0:33no-take MPAs.
- 0:35Consistently, they show that rapid increases of fish biomass happen when it's fully protected, recovery of large predators happen when it's fully protected, higher
- 0:46biodiversity happens when it's fully protected, greater ecosystem stability happens when they're fully protected, and spillover benefits to nearby fisheries happen when it's truly
- 0:59protected.
- 1:01The difference between success and failure is enforcement and of course level of protection.
- 1:06So the key question that we have to ask today, what separates real protection from paper parks?
- 1:14So let's just kind of set this all up.
- 1:16An MPA, a Marine Protected Area, is a imaginary boundary in the ocean that protects us for a specific reason, oftentimes fisheries or biodiversity.
- 1:30It just depends on what you're protecting.
- 1:33You can protect both in that, but one is really targeted just like you would niche down a business.
- 1:38You know, they say that the riches are in the niches in the US.
- 1:42It's niche, by the way.
- 1:43You can't stand hearing niches.
- 1:45But regardless, it works on the rhyme.
- 1:47But when you specify what that purpose is for a marine protected area, you will find that you'll get better protection.
- 1:57So you can protect for fisheries or biodiversity.
- 2:00Those are often the case.
- 2:06Now in the last episode, we discussed how some MPAs are failing top predators like sharks due to weak enforcement and loopholes.
- 2:15Many of these protected areas allow industrial fishing.
- 2:18We saw that in the UK where they allowed bottom trawling.
- 2:21Now if you think about this, an MPA protects an area.
- 2:25It protects largely a habitat or multiple habitats that allow for a biodiverse or a diverse area to be protected.
- 2:35That diverse area also supports diversity of fish, diversity of invertebrates, all these different types of things that allow for food web to have its complexity and have multiple
- 2:45functional resources or functional uh species that will contribute to the ecosystem as a whole and contribute to that stability.
- 2:53When you allow for industrial fishing to come through and bottom trawl, you get rid of that habitat.
- 2:59It's gone.
- 3:00It'll take a while for it to recover.
- 3:03But if you go through the entire protected area or multiple times and you trawl and you dig up the bottom like a trawler would.
- 3:10So a trawler is essentially it's a ship that has this net that has doors on its side that opens up the net, right?
- 3:18And then the net comes back and then you have this chain along the bottom that connects to the doors and then that gets grinded against the bottom as the ship moves a little slower
- 3:29than it normally would.
- 3:31And then all the fish that are on the bottom, whatever's on the bottom, will go into the net.
- 3:35Now you have mesh sizes that will allow larger fish to go out.
- 3:39Sometimes you'll have like sea turtle devices that allow sea turtles to go through the net or get out of the net so they don't get caught.
- 3:45But a lot of times anything that's in that area could be bycatch like marine mammals or sharks or anything like that.
- 3:53And as well as other fish and invertebrates and habitats.
- 3:56That all goes into the net and gets destroyed.
- 3:59They're gone.
- 3:59They get taken up.
- 4:00Some bycatch gets thrown over.
- 4:02If it's in time, it works.
- 4:03If not, it doesn't work.
- 4:04It's a very destructive fishing practice.
- 4:06But it works really well in capturing everything.
- 4:09And so if you're targeting for a specific species, will catch a lot of other things, but it won't catch just what you want.
- 4:18But you can work it so it catches close to that.
- 4:20And it's used quite often.
- 4:22So in the UK, they use bottom trawlers in these marine protected areas.
- 4:27really making it not a marine protected area, it's just an area that they would protect every once in a while except when bottom trawlers would come through.
- 4:33So of course if you have industrial fishing happening, if you have a lack of monitoring, so you're not really monitoring what's happening and if you're seeing the success of these
- 4:41marine protected areas, which there are successes in these protected areas that are actually enforced and have specific levels of uh non-activity let's just say, you will get
- 4:50a protected area.
- 4:52And of course if you don't have any compliance, if you don't have the buy-in from the people, from the fishers,
- 4:55for the people who are using those marine protectors or will benefit from those marine protectors but are using it nonetheless, then you will not have a marine protector.
- 5:04It's basically just a paper park, essentially.
- 5:07So that protected boundary on a map does not necessarily equal ecological protection.
- 5:13You'll see that there's a boundary, but without any kind of enforcement, without any kind of levels of non-extractive activity that happens, uh or the banning of extractive
- 5:24activity that happens,
- 5:25you just have a paper park.
- 5:28So if you look at all of these areas where you allow industrial fishing, you don't monitor and you don't have any compliance and you contrast that with an area that does have
- 5:40monitoring, it doesn't allow extractive fishing or industrial fishing and it does have compliance, you get what we call protection.
- 5:47So like I said, when protection is real, ecosystems respond quickly.
- 5:52So let's look at the literature.
- 5:53So
- 5:54There are uh over 18,000 marine protected areas that exist globally.
- 6:00Coverage has expanded rapidly over the years, especially in the past decade.
- 6:06are in the 2020s, but essentially we are in the decade of the ocean where there is a rule by 2030, we will have 30 % of land and marine resources protected or marine area
- 6:17protected.
- 6:17That's called 30 by 30.
- 6:19That's what you'll probably hear that a lot.
- 6:21There's a lot of problems with 30 by 30.
- 6:23The idea is understandable.
- 6:26It's like let's protect 30 % of the ocean by 2030 and 30 % of the land by 2030, 30 by 30.
- 6:32Is that, are we on our way to that?
- 6:34No, not at all.
- 6:35And have things been protected more as a paper park than a real protection?
- 6:40Yes, absolutely.
- 6:41That has definitely happened.
- 6:42But we're working on it and hopefully we can get some, we can change that around.
- 6:46There's hope that we can change that around if the right people are in place.
- 6:50But when you would look at those 18,000 MPAs, only a fraction are actually fully protected as in no take areas, meaning you can't take anything from there.
- 7:01There are even some no take areas that you can't even do research.
- 7:05Scientists can't even do research to monitor.
- 7:06They just say, no, we're not taking it.
- 7:08It's a sensitive area.
- 7:10Often these MPAs can be a specific habitat like a coral reef, a seagrass bed or seagrass meadow or a mangrove or salt marsh or
- 7:19a mud flat or an important tidal area.
- 7:23There's a lot of different areas that it can be.
- 7:25It could be just an area where we know there's a specific assemblage of fish.
- 7:28And so we want to protect that assemblage of fish.
- 7:30And then other assemblages could be invertebrates as well.
- 7:33So it's a lot of different reasons why they can be a marine protector or what they're actually protecting.
- 7:39uh So once they're fully protected,
- 7:45then they are predicted, but that only represents a small percentage of the ocean.
- 7:51So then the total coverage of ocean suggests.
- 7:55So 18,000 MPAs, only a fraction of that, like a small fraction, are actually no-take areas.
- 8:03So when you have these no-take areas, you don't allow anything by, so scientists are not allowed to do research.
- 8:10Some of they allow, but that's not extractive.
- 8:12No snorkeling, no scuba diving, no fishing.
- 8:15Like there's a lot of things that you cannot do in these areas.
- 8:19So coverage, just like the other day when we talked about like coral coverage, is not the best thing for MPA.
- 8:26So coverage is not the same as protection quality.
- 8:30Just because you have coverage, just because you have a percentage covered, doesn't mean that the quality of that area is going to be protected.
- 8:36Just like coral cover percentage didn't really mean what we thought it meant in terms of the complexity
- 8:42in the rugosity, like the actual resiliency of a reef, if it's not 3D, if it's just a flat reef, it's not as healthy in terms of quality as you would see in a 3D reef.
- 8:57So just the fact that we look at an indicator as coral coverage doesn't necessarily mean that you have a healthy coral.
- 9:05Now some of the data that's come out, we've seen articles in Science and Nature where we've seen biomass increase.
- 9:12So no take MPAs show significantly higher total fish biomass compared to partially protected areas or open areas.
- 9:20So the biomass of large predators such as sharks increases disproportionately.
- 9:26So that means it increases a huge amount.
- 9:28Recovery can occur within five to 10 years.
- 9:32Sometimes faster depending on the species that you're looking at.
- 9:35If it's a slow growing species like grouper, it might take a lot longer.
- 9:38If it's a fast growing species, it might be a lot shorter.
- 9:42So the recovery can happen whenever, right, depending on the species.
- 9:46And top predators are often the first indicators of real recovery.
- 9:49You start to see those predators increase in size.
- 9:52Like biomass is size.
- 9:53So how much do they weigh?
- 9:55That's a good indicator of healthy systems or systems starting to get healthier as you start to see like bigger sharks.
- 10:01that are around, they're healthier, they're meatier, because they actually have food to feed on.
- 10:06Now, of course, when we look at diversity, species richness, which is the measure of the amount and number of species in fully protected areas.
- 10:15So if the number of species increases, that becomes a huge biodiversity gain.
- 10:21Functional diversity improves, meaning more ecological roles that are filled.
- 10:28Functional diversity is really interesting to me.
- 10:31Because when we talk about diversity, diversity to me means stability within an ecosystem, like a habitat.
- 10:39Say, let's go back to the coral reef.
- 10:41When you have a coral reef with a number of different corals, so you have flat corals, have boulder corals, you'll have branching corals, you have all these different types of
- 10:49corals.
- 10:50And then you have some soft corals as well.
- 10:53The hard corals are like the branching, flat, and so forth.
- 10:55When you have a number of those, then you have resiliency within the habitat.
- 10:59When you have...
- 11:00a number of different species of fish or invertebrates that do similar things.
- 11:06So, clean off algae off a coral or will attack predators that are coral eating.
- 11:15You know, keep away predators that are coral eating.
- 11:17The diversity of those, if you have a lot of species that do the same thing, so say algae eaters, so herbivores, if you have a lot of herbivores on there, like a lot of different
- 11:25species that are herbivores, that's really great.
- 11:28It makes it lot more stable because
- 11:30If one fish species, that is the herbivore, disappears from the area, we call it extirpated from the area of this reef, then there are still other species that do the same
- 11:40thing.
- 11:40So the corals don't become vulnerable to algal growth, right?
- 11:46That's a benefit.
- 11:48That's stability because you know that just because one species is extirpated, the other species are around to do the same kind of functional role as in eating algae.
- 11:57So the corals won't get overgrown.
- 11:59the coral system will stay most likely intact.
- 12:02There might be a little bit of a dip, but overall it'll be intact.
- 12:05And another species that the herbivore might come in or reintroduce that species and they'll become even more stable.
- 12:12So having that functional diversity, the greater number of species that do the same function is gonna be really stable.
- 12:18It's gonna act as a stability metric for the reef or for the habitat.
- 12:24And then of course food webs become more complex and stable.
- 12:27There's gonna be a lot more layers
- 12:29especially of different functional roles and then those layers become a lot of food was comes a lot more complex if you think about just like a genealogy tree like if you go to
- 12:3823 me or whatever I know what I've heard is a ripoff maybe not I don't know but you go to those you get like a genealogy tree a genealogy tree and you look at how complex it could
- 12:47be when you have so many different people coming in and you have so many layers and so many branches and so forth it's exactly the same when you think of a biodiversity tree
- 12:56It's not just more fish, it's more of a complete ecosystem when we talk about biodiversity gains.
- 13:02And of course, going back to continuing on with the ecosystem stability, protected reefs and coastal systems show greater resilience to climate stress.
- 13:12If you have a healthier reef or you have a healthier seagrass metal or salt marsh or any kind of coastal zone, you have a healthier coastline.
- 13:20Climate change won't rear its ugly head.
- 13:22It might be able to affect a couple of species.
- 13:25But if you have that diversity of that functional role and you have that complexity within the ecosystem, that system is going to be very resilient to change, even climate change.
- 13:38And so that's going to be really helpful.
- 13:39have that structural complexity will be maintained, whether it be within a food web or whether it be that physical structural complexity we talked about on Tuesday, like two
- 13:49episodes ago, when we looked at how
- 13:52resilient a system can be when you have a complex and 3D reef, right?
- 13:57And then recovery after any kind of disturbance, even if it makes damage, will be faster in marine protected areas because they're clean from anything.
- 14:06There's no lack of fish.
- 14:08There's no degraded habitat from a trawl going through or fishing hooks or anything like that.
- 14:13You have a healthy reef.
- 14:15So MPAs do not stop climate change, but intact ecosystems
- 14:20are better able to withstand it.
- 14:23Now what separates real MPAs from paper parks?
- 14:26We kinda talked about it a little bit.
- 14:28Well, let's talk a little bit, let's go into more detail.
- 14:31So real protection includes no extractive activities, especially industrial fishing, clear boundaries, adequate funding.
- 14:39You need to fund the people to help monitor this MPA.
- 14:43Active enforcement, again, you need the funding for the enforcement.
- 14:46The enforcement allows for make sure that people are not doing anything illegal and not doing anything that goes against the success of an MPA.
- 14:54And the monitoring and compliance systems, making sure that everything is being watched, everything is being observed to make sure that things are going right.
- 15:00And then local community involvement.
- 15:02You need the buy-in of the local community because they are the ones who need to use that coastline for either, you know, security systems or for food or for pleasure, whatever
- 15:14that might be, they can use it.
- 15:16Paper parks are often have like, they allow commercial fishing, they have minimal patrols, so no enforcement, political designation without implementation.
- 15:27So they say, hey, you know what, this is an MPA, but we're not really gonna implement it.
- 15:31We're not gonna put anything in it.
- 15:33And then no penalties for violations.
- 15:35So the enforcement's like, even if you do enforce, you don't get penalties.
- 15:39Well, that's not really gonna do anything because now people know they can do anything they want and not have to worry about
- 15:44So protection level and enforcement intensity are the key variables to a healthy marine protected area, even a system.
- 15:54Let's talk about some of the benefits of MPAs.
- 15:57When you have an increased fish biomass inside the no-take MPAs, that leads to that spillover effect into the adjacent fishing ground.
- 16:07So if you have this boundary, this imaginary boundary in this area,
- 16:12and you have all these species that are protected for fishing within the boundary.
- 16:16Those species eventually are gonna get too big and too numerous to all be in one area.
- 16:21They're gonna have to go outside the boundaries.
- 16:24Once they go outside the boundaries, they're fair game to be fished.
- 16:27Now obviously fishing has to be controlled to a certain amount, but that spillover effect, like spilling over the boundaries becomes a lot better when you have high biomass and high
- 16:40numbers.
- 16:41right, and diversity of fish.
- 16:43So now the fishermen are, the fishing communities are going to be happy because they are able to fish responsibly, of course.
- 16:49And you're happy because you see the Spillow Effect happen all the time.
- 16:52There's going be more production within that MPA.
- 16:54It's just going to be a source of biological diversity and biomass, which will be wonderful.
- 17:00One thing we haven't touched upon is larval export.
- 17:03And so that, so when you have these larvae, which is like fish species, invertebrates, whatever that might be, even corals, right, which is an
- 17:12When they're born or they reproduce, whether it's asexual or sexual, they produce larvae a lot of the times.
- 17:21That larvae is brought by currents to other areas.
- 17:25So again, we talk about spillover effects.
- 17:27This time it's larval spillover effect.
- 17:29That larvae will follow the current because it can't really go against the current until it settles somewhere else.
- 17:34And that somewhere else could be part of a network of marine protected areas like the Great Barrier Reef, or it could be just on its own and that
- 17:41all that spillover effect going, it might be just 10 feet, it might be 10 meters, it might be 100 feet or 100 meters away, depending on how far that current will go before the
- 17:52larval, the larvae will actually metamorphosize into a fish or anything or an invertebrate and look what its adult form will look like.
- 18:00And it'll settle down on the bottom, whether it's a coral or anything like that.
- 18:03That could help build up all the uh habitats around it as long as it's safe.
- 18:08So a lot of the times when you have marine protected areas,
- 18:11You'll have a bunch of little ones in a network and that biological connectivity, which is what I was supposed to do for my PhD at one point, when it like 25 years ago, that
- 18:20biological connectivity will connect with the other uh other MPAs and that will become a like a sink where animals just sink in and they settle and they build more habitats and
- 18:32healthier habitats.
- 18:33So that's a pretty good thing.
- 18:35It creates long term fishing, fishing yields.
- 18:37that can help improve near and well, that can improve near and well-designed reserves.
- 18:44That'll be really helpful.
- 18:46So it's not just conservation versus fisheries.
- 18:48This is short-term extraction versus long-term stability.
- 18:52It's really what it comes down to.
- 18:53When you're talking about short-term extraction, you're talking about fishing coming out for that payday, that quick payday.
- 19:00We're at long-term stability as you're creating an area.
- 19:04that will have that spillover effect, that will have that connectivity with larvae, which will be really great.
- 19:10Now, of course, I mentioned that the country's racing towards 30 % protection by 2030, the 30 by 30.
- 19:17The risk is counting areas instead of quality, right?
- 19:21So if we have, if a government decides, hey, you know what, I don't wanna be embarrassed by every other country who's meeting the 2020, 30, or the 30 by 30, reach that, that,
- 19:33index or that number, that 30%, that goal, what they're going to do is they're just going to, you know, we'll just designate a bunch of parks and they'll be paper parks, but we'll
- 19:43just designate them so that we actually fit there.
- 19:45I don't want to, you know, I don't want my country embarrassed by other countries saying prime ministers and ministers and so forth, or presidents and stuff like that.
- 19:52So the risk is you're just counting area instead of high quality areas, right?
- 19:57And then high coverage with low protection may look, you know, politically great.
- 20:03but it'll ecologically fail and we don't want that.
- 20:07So 30 % of nothing is still 30%.
- 20:10So if you don't protect it, if you just put it as a paper park and you just designate the area, you're not gonna get anything of it.
- 20:16So quality first, then we go quantity, right?
- 20:19That's the biggest thing.
- 20:21So I wanna talk about an example, just to kind of refer an example, Cabo Palmo National Park.
- 20:29This area, fishing ended in the mid 1990s.
- 20:32biomass increased more than 400 % for over a decade.
- 20:38That's a huge increase over a decade.
- 20:42The reef predators returned and essentially, local enforcement and community buy-in was critical and they got that buy-in and they were able to get all of these great things to
- 20:53happen.
- 20:54like biomass increased by 400%, the number increased and the biodiversity increased, all of a sudden you have this great source of
- 21:02fish biomass in number and diversity, and then you have the fishery that comes back again.
- 21:08And it's a national park that gets funded and it's enforced, right?
- 21:11And then you have the community buy-in, which is critical.
- 21:15So like stories like this are what we talk about on this podcast.
- 21:19And if you want real ocean protection stories backed by science, follow this show right now so you don't miss out on tomorrow's episode.
- 21:28I wanna thank you so much because you know what?
- 21:31talking about MPAs, MPAs work.
- 21:33Not all MPAs are equal, but they work when they work well, when they're implemented properly, they're enforced properly, and they have the right level of protections.
- 21:42And enforcement is really the dividing line.
- 21:45And fully protected areas consistently outperform partially protected areas.
- 21:50So even if your government's like, yeah, we're gonna protect this area, but we're gonna allow resource extraction like fisheries or oil and gas, that's not a marine protected
- 21:58area.
- 21:59That's a fake one.
- 22:00That's like fake news, right?
- 22:03So it's really important that we know that protection works when it is real.
- 22:07And it's important for you as a citizen of wherever you live to understand that when governments come out and say, hey, we're going to protect this area, you have to start
- 22:15looking at how they're going to protect it.
- 22:17What are they going to institute and follow along to make sure that they're putting out the right reports and to make sure that they actually see gains and actually seen levels
- 22:25of protection that are really good and making sure that extractive activities that
- 22:30are supposed to happen in those do not happen in those.
- 22:33So I want to thank you so much for listening to this episode of the How to Protect the Ocean podcast.
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