Latest / The Art of Costume Podcast / The Queen's Gambit
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- 0:08It was nice to see Dudley from the Harry Potter series, show up
- 0:12in a character. That's not Dudley.
- 0:15Oh my gosh. That's Dudley Elizabeth.
- 0:18That's Dudley from Harry Potter. Who plays Harry belting?
- 0:22I just blew her mind right now. She looks so confusing us saying
- 0:27that to us like my confused. Hello and welcome to the costume
- 0:44blogcast. I'm Overjoyed glass and I'm
- 0:47Spencer Williams. How's it going?
- 0:50Spencer, it's going, it's going. It's been a long week, but I'm
- 0:57very long week, but I'm excited to talk to you.
- 1:02You know, I've been watching a lot of TV this week.
- 1:05So I have a lot of thoughts and feelings.
- 1:07Same, same, I wasn't. I wasn't quite ready.
- 1:11For all the TV I watch my God but it was enjoyable.
- 1:16Yes, totally. So let's with what are we
- 1:19watching this week? So this week we watched the
- 1:24Queens Gambit finally. It was one of those things.
- 1:28Her is like, why would I want to watch a chest show?
- 1:32Oh, that's why I want to watch a show about Chess.
- 1:35Yeah. If I had a dollar for every
- 1:36person that told me to watch the Queens Gambit, I would have
- 1:40probably Oddly $20. It was one of those things where
- 1:42I'm like, I just don't have time for this and then it gets
- 1:47nominated for an Emmy and I'm like, I guess I can make time
- 1:51for this. It's just like, ever since we
- 1:55started a podcast, I've been able to start watching more TV.
- 1:58I felt like, before the podcast, I was really just watching Veep
- 2:03and the office reruns constantly.
- 2:05But now I'm venturing out and, you know, watching the Queens
- 2:08Gambit, I know saying, This was the most dramatic thing.
- 2:11I'd watched in a very long time because I was just watching like
- 2:15the British Bake Off and Ted lasso.
- 2:17That's all I was doing now. I'm like oh, right drama.
- 2:21I am so desperately want to learn how to play chess.
- 2:24Now I don't that that just looks hella confusing Elizabeth ever
- 2:29since the Queens Gambit came out sales of chess sets in the
- 2:33United States Rose by around 25%.
- 2:37But since the release yeah since the release of The Queens Gambit
- 2:41premiered sales, have grown 125% all because of this show, you
- 2:47know, so people are chess good for you.
- 2:51Jess. We were rooting for you.
- 2:54I was rooting for you, but apparently, I learned how to
- 2:58play chess. Kind of when I was in, Boy,
- 3:01Scouts sounds like kid and clearly it didn't stick with me.
- 3:05So I, I like vaguely. Remember like I think my I was
- 3:10trying to teach my brother how to play it, and I've kind of
- 3:13vaguely, remember them doing that and I think my dad's house
- 3:16it like, Lord of the Rings chess set.
- 3:19I was looking at those on Amazon, this week, they're nice.
- 3:24I want to load utterings chess set.
- 3:26Also settle for a Game of Thrones chess set, but okay.
- 3:29So now I know what to get you for your birthday.
- 3:33You're gonna have to sound like some of those Queens Gambit like
- 3:36chess books. So I learn how to play.
- 3:39Sure. I'll just go.
- 3:40All themed ones. Do you know what a book is?
- 3:43Can you send me one of those? I know what a book.
- 3:45A okay. All right.
- 3:49Well, I'll start us off of a summary so we can start to break
- 3:52down this really lengthy. Wonderful show.
- 3:55Yes, it was long. But it actually went by like,
- 3:59very quickly. I wasn't so much to be those
- 4:01long. It was just that there are so
- 4:03many costumes that I'm so many characters, so many characters
- 4:07and costumes. I have to admit I'm a little
- 4:09intimidated. This week, there's a lot of
- 4:11stuff to talk about and I don't really know where to start.
- 4:14No, we're gonna do our best. So start us off with a summary.
- 4:20All right, so I haven't read this since I wrote it, so let's
- 4:23hope it still works out. Hmm, in the 1950s Beth Harmon is
- 4:28orphaned and sent to live at a Christian girl's orphanage.
- 4:31I don't know how to say the name of this orphanage through too
- 4:35many years of mistreatment and addiction Beth finds a way to
- 4:38cope with her depression. Bipolar Playing chess with the
- 4:41custodian William schabel Beth. Quickly becomes a chess genius
- 4:45and falls in love with the game. After many years, Beth is
- 4:48adopted and sent to live with her new family that wheatley's
- 4:52while her days at the orphanage or behind her.
- 4:55Beth's love for Cheston issues of addiction followed her to her
- 4:58new home, and into her adult life.
- 5:01The Queens Gambit is a story of perseverance dedication, and
- 5:05facing ones, demons running parallel to Beth's Journey from
- 5:08Young orphan to chest. And a master.
- 5:11Yeah. Oh, that's a good answer.
- 5:15Pat myself on the back for anyone who has not watched the
- 5:19Queens Gambit yet. Spoiler warning.
- 5:22We're going to talk all about it.
- 5:23We're not hiding anything here. So go, watch it.
- 5:26If that bothers you and then come back, secret secrets are no
- 5:30fun. Secret Secrets, hurt someone.
- 5:33I think that's the quote, probably.
- 5:36Anyways, spoiler alert, she plays a lot of chests and she
- 5:39looks good. Doing it.
- 5:40Yeah, yeah, she does. Oh my gosh, she does with that.
- 5:45Let's go behind the Wardrobe. So the Queens Gambit was
- 5:51directed by Scott, Frank with costume design, by Gabrielle
- 5:55Bender. Best known for the lives of
- 5:59others. In the Land of Blood and Honey,
- 6:02and never look away. So, how about you?
- 6:05But I love her. Look this entire time and I
- 6:09didn't really Notice this till like I did the research but
- 6:14Gabrielle she was like, because her hair's so bright.
- 6:18It's so red. She thought that, like, they
- 6:21shouldn't her clothes, shouldn't equal that brightness.
- 6:24She was like, you know, she's just kind of like a reclusive
- 6:27chess player. So like, she didn't want her
- 6:30close to like, attract too much attention to her, which I found
- 6:34really interesting because Beth dresses like, Stellar through
- 6:38the whole thing. Like she's a Doctor.
- 6:40And I showed that actually like enjoys fashion and dressing,
- 6:44which is one of the things I liked about this.
- 6:46They didn't make her just some like a chess genius, who
- 6:49couldn't care, less about what she looks like, which I feel
- 6:53like they do a lot of times the smart people but she was also
- 6:57like, you know, she's not like trying to put herself out there
- 7:01so she chose like more muted colors.
- 7:05You only see her in red one so that like it doesn't compete
- 7:08with her hair and she also Didn't want to show like any
- 7:11cleavage, because she was like, well, Beth wouldn't want like
- 7:14guys staring at her boobs while she's playing chess.
- 7:17So like she never wears a low-cut top or dress in this.
- 7:22Everything's like up to her neck and I was like that's that's
- 7:26like something like I wouldn't have thought of because it takes
- 7:29place in like the late 50s and 60s so it's like oh, that was
- 7:33just the fashion. But it's like, no, that was
- 7:35something she did fairy intentionally.
- 7:38Also very interesting NG about this is like, she wanted to
- 7:42mirror what was happening inside of Beth the whole time she's
- 7:47quoted in an interview with Vogue saying I always try to
- 7:50mirror what's happening inside a character with what they are
- 7:53wearing on the outside and the checks are something that I
- 7:57thought would be immediately interesting to Anya's character
- 8:00as she would intuitively choose to wear pieces that are
- 8:04connected to chess which I'm like that is so true.
- 8:07Like the first outfit she gets her Herself has like a checkered
- 8:12print on it. She wears a lot of black and
- 8:15white. A lot of checkered closings.
- 8:17I was like, that's so interesting.
- 8:20Yeah, from the beginning, all the way to the end, you can see
- 8:22a lot of Chess influences and everything she wears, which is
- 8:26super cool. Everything she wears, you might
- 8:28not notice that the first time, but if you really pay attention
- 8:31you'll start to notice it. Yeah, it was so brilliant and
- 8:34caramel she wasn't sure about doing this script up like doing
- 8:38the show at first cause she was like I don't know anything.
- 8:40About Chess. Why would I want to do a show
- 8:42about Chess? But that she's like, as soon as
- 8:45she read the script, she was like, oh, I need to do this, it
- 8:49is intimidating. I mean, chess is such a
- 8:51confusing game to me, but it was, it's more than just about
- 8:55Chester like that is just like, it's almost like chess has her
- 8:59weapon to like Express herself. It's not really all about Chess.
- 9:04Yeah, it's the first thing she has that's hers that she's able
- 9:08to control in her life and That's what she makes her life
- 9:11all about. Well, I love the show so much,
- 9:14like I said, there is a lot to break down, so I think we're
- 9:18going to take a short break and when we get back we're just
- 9:20going to get right into it. Let's get it done.
- 9:23Yeah. Welcome back.
- 9:47Elizabeth, are you ready to play some chess?
- 9:50Or at least pretend we know how to play chess.
- 9:53I'm ready to be a spectator of Chess.
- 9:58I bet you by Christmas time you and I are gonna be playing
- 10:01chess. Just really, really like King
- 10:04Tut, why 10? I don't know.
- 10:11That's so funny. I'll talk about that in a
- 10:13second. Okay, so in episode one called
- 10:18openings at the age of 9 Beth is orphaned by her mother and sent
- 10:23to live in a girl's orphanage. At this orphanage, she meets her
- 10:27best friend Jolene and she also meets the custodian mr.
- 10:31Schabel, who starts to teach her how to play chess while at the
- 10:36orphanage Beth gets addicted to tranquilizers.
- 10:39Probably Every other kid at this orphanage is gain addicted to
- 10:43tranquilizers. Oh yeah.
- 10:45As it's given to them every single day, these tranquilizers
- 10:49allow Beth to hallucinate and play a game of chess on the
- 10:53ceiling at night and she practices every night just
- 10:57laying in bed. At the same time she goes and
- 11:00visits mr. Sable in the basement, every day
- 11:03to go play chess with him. All this practice leads to her
- 11:06becoming a real chess Protege. She becomes so So good that she
- 11:10gets invited to a local high school to play everyone in the
- 11:14chess club or SLI easily destroys every single one of
- 11:17these guys after chessboards destroys them.
- 11:20Yeah mutilates them and I loved watching it when the orphanage
- 11:27is banned from giving all the girls tranquilizers Beth is
- 11:30unable to practice by hallucinating and becomes
- 11:33desperate to get more when she attempts to steals them from
- 11:37school Beth is banned from playing from Chest after she
- 11:41very clumsy dropped the giant jar of tranquilizers, all over
- 11:45the place. I was like, girl come on like
- 11:50she's stopping them in her mouth which I'm like, I think you're
- 11:54smart enough to know you never do that.
- 11:56She's stuffing them in her pockets and I was like, you
- 11:58could have she was so close to getting away with this.
- 12:01If she didn't try to take the whole thing with her.
- 12:04Yeah, I was like, where are you gonna put that giant thing?
- 12:07Like No One's Gonna notice that? Yeah.
- 12:09Yeah, it's a small school. Anyways, it's an orphanage.
- 12:15I love that the orphanage is just keeping them around.
- 12:18Like like what we can't throw them out.
- 12:22I love. She's like where's the green
- 12:24one? He's like, wouldn't it?
- 12:25Wouldn't, you know, you can't give tranquilizers to kids,
- 12:30shocking. I cannot believe that this was a
- 12:32thing. I just this world is just
- 12:35terrible. Dude, people used to put alcohol
- 12:38in their teething baby. Some guns to get them to shut
- 12:41up. So no good.
- 12:46I can't, I just can't with this place.
- 12:48I hate it here, okay? Thankfully at least she's
- 12:54clothed in this place. Yeah, I mean, I guess I think
- 12:58one of the first costumes we should talk about would be the
- 13:01dress that she wears at the very beginning of the show.
- 13:04Yeah. So her mom dies in a car
- 13:06accident, and she's wearing something.
- 13:10Her mother made for her. It's like a very, very light
- 13:13green minty green with her name beautifully embroidered on it.
- 13:18And her mom says, oh, like you'll never forget who you are
- 13:22and this color she ends up coming back to quite a lot
- 13:26throughout the series. It's supposed to be her home
- 13:29color but um she gets to the orphanage and they were just
- 13:32like let's burn this. Yeah, let's get rid of it.
- 13:36I did love Beth's name is Liz. For when I heard it, I was like,
- 13:42oh my brother, of course, it's Elizabeth the classic name.
- 13:45What can I say the use of Peter Pan collars in the show?
- 13:52I mean, it's all over. It's all over the place.
- 13:56Like so when she gets to the orphanage, they seem like really
- 14:01like good at first. Like the woman who runs it,
- 14:05she's like very smartly dress, she wears beautiful dresses the
- 14:08whole time. Oh yeah, stunning.
- 14:11Yeah. Especially that green one with
- 14:14like, the little like in bed. Like Leaf embellishment.
- 14:17Ooh, so good. Yeah.
- 14:19They seem like, they really have it together at first and then
- 14:22she's like, okay, well, first, we're going to like, get you
- 14:25some new clothes because granted her clothes are filthy, but then
- 14:29she immediately puts her in this just like gross, like, pinafore
- 14:35dress long sleeve, Peter Pan collar and like all the girls
- 14:39Look exactly the same. She has this terrible, bob
- 14:44haircut given to her, I was like, oh my gosh, this poor
- 14:48girl, uniform is so tragic. At first, I was like, you know,
- 14:56it's okay. But then, once I realize that
- 14:58she had a, give up all her old clothes wear this uniform every
- 15:01day. I was like, okay, that's cruel.
- 15:03That's almost as cruel as the tranquilizers.
- 15:07Yeah, that's cool. And it's like, Yeah.
- 15:10And clearly like the woman who runs it, she looks good the
- 15:15whole time. Like, clearly she, they could
- 15:18probably afford better clothes for these poor orphan girls.
- 15:22I'm on, are at least, we're let them wear their own clothes, you
- 15:25know, and if you know, if they're having like an adoption
- 15:28meeting, put on the uniform. But yeah, but like, I don't
- 15:33think they even let Beth, like, bring any of her own stuff,
- 15:37because it's like, literally the dress, she wore, The accident is
- 15:40the same one she gets to dropped off at the orphanage in and I'm
- 15:44like, did no one like try to find her father.
- 15:48Like I have a feeling that her home life was very tragic.
- 15:54It wasn't very good. I wasn't very clear on what was
- 16:00happening at home. I just knew it was a good time.
- 16:03I know I'm like, you, find out laying on the show, like her mom
- 16:07had a family. Like, ya know, No one wanted
- 16:10this kit just feels like they took her straight from the
- 16:13accident site to this orphanage. Like didn't even try to figure
- 16:16out who she was right there. Like I'm trying to get home
- 16:22Jeopardy's on tonight. I just need to drop this girl
- 16:24for Thor for this real quick. Yeah, I was like okay you don't
- 16:29have a belongings. That's fine.
- 16:30I don't really have room in the trunk.
- 16:32Anyways. Exactly.
- 16:34But at least she meets mr. Schaible.
- 16:36Oh yeah. He's a cool guy.
- 16:38I like this guy. He's so Cool and like clearly at
- 16:41first he's like I just want to play chess please go away.
- 16:44Yeah. I mean this girl walks in and
- 16:46like a potato sack outfit with the world's worst Bob and she's
- 16:50like, can I play with you? I'd be like no.
- 16:53Yeah, well she's cleaning erasers which like those things.
- 16:58It's like the death of you when you try to clean them, my asthma
- 17:02was acting up just watching the same as like that to the
- 17:07basement to do that. You're not like Oh go outside.
- 17:11Like don't get the dust all over your clothes because that
- 17:14outside the custodian must have been so pissy like can you
- 17:18please stop? I'm gonna thin.
- 17:21But yeah as we mentioned there's not a lot of costumes in the
- 17:24first episode because there was forced to wear these tragic
- 17:27uniforms except for the lovely headmistress but I know other
- 17:31than that there's not a lot going on here, there's not a lot
- 17:35going on at all and by the end of the episode, she's not even
- 17:39allowed to Play chess. You know, the show's over.
- 17:42That's it. Everyone show's over.
- 17:44That's it. No more.
- 17:46At least she does. She does get to read a lot of
- 17:48books though about Chess. Hmm, which we looks, which we do
- 17:53find out in episode two exchanges.
- 17:57At 15 Beth has adopted by mr. And mrs.
- 18:01Wheatley the wife, she's like excited to have a kid.
- 18:06The husband clearly could not care less.
- 18:09So, she moves in with them, she struggles to connect with her
- 18:13new family because the mother is a mess.
- 18:16Miss Wheatley is a mess, she's struggling with being a mother.
- 18:20And the fact that her marriage is like crumbling around her.
- 18:24She doesn't fit in at school, like people teased her about her
- 18:27looks because she's still wearing her clothes from the
- 18:30orphanage. But she doesn't really care
- 18:33about that because she's preoccupied with getting back
- 18:36into chess. And she also discovered, Who is
- 18:40The Wider world of Chess and that, you know, people write
- 18:44magazines and you can read all these different books and go to
- 18:48tournaments. And as she's getting ready for
- 18:51this tournament, she finds her mother's tranquilizer.
- 18:55Is so me, he's like, oh looky! What we have here now?
- 18:59So she is able to go to her first tournament.
- 19:03She dominates the competition and wins against the best player
- 19:07there Harry belt. Uh-huh, I love this episode has
- 19:12so fun. My favorite scene is when she
- 19:14walks up and she's signing up for the tournament.
- 19:17That is like the entire show could be cut to just that one
- 19:20scene, it would still be Emmy worthy.
- 19:23I know and the to the two guys there, who like, they kind of
- 19:26treat her like jackasses at first, but they end up becoming
- 19:30like friends with her but they're just like your girl why
- 19:34are you here? What's your rating?
- 19:37What's your rating? She just like she's just answer.
- 19:39I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.
- 19:41They're like you go, like, take your money and go home and she's
- 19:44like, no, I'm gonna win. They're like, no, you're not.
- 19:48What does it matter? I'm gonna beat every last person
- 19:51in this building. So, yeah, and she's still
- 19:55wearing that awful, like, pinafore jumper with the Peter
- 19:58Pan collar. It's so funny because it's like,
- 20:02she left the orphanage and it's almost like she forgot that
- 20:06there was like an outside world where people were wearing other
- 20:08clothes Like, it's almost like she assumed everyone was going
- 20:12to be wearing the same orphanage uniforms.
- 20:14But you, well, I feel like they were just isolated from the rest
- 20:19of the world. Like they went to school there,
- 20:21they lived there. I don't think she probably
- 20:24didn't leave that property for what six years.
- 20:28I mean, probably more than that. I honestly, I don't know.
- 20:32But it seemed like a long time. I loved one, like the
- 20:35wheatley's. Are there to like interview her
- 20:38to be their I guess the mistrust around that she's like, she's 13
- 20:44and Beth was like, hmm, 15, but okay, gotta do what you gotta
- 20:49do? I love mrs.
- 20:52Wheatley, she was such a cool character.
- 20:56I was just the most confused by her cause that first, I feel
- 20:58like, oh wow, She's So Glamorous.
- 21:00But like her life was such a like lie than Tire time.
- 21:05Yeah. Loved.
- 21:06When she, she took a Beth to go clothes shopping and you realize
- 21:13like actually held Arab her life was.
- 21:15I mean, her outfit was so dark and gloomy and gray but she
- 21:19still looked really put together.
- 21:20It's very like that 1950s, housewife uniform, and she's
- 21:25buying a close for Beth and it's just she's such a great
- 21:28character, she's such a great character.
- 21:31And you feel for her because like she has a crappy life, her
- 21:34husband is like slowly retreating from their marriage
- 21:39slowly. Like it was quickly house like
- 21:41this man is out of here. Yeah.
- 21:43So he goes on a lot of long business trips at first but yeah
- 21:47and then it's just like peace. Yeah.
- 21:49He literally got her a child to leave her alone.
- 21:52He's like here. Here's a child.
- 21:54I gotta go. Go away and apparently they like
- 21:57lost a kid and she's just like stuck in this life that she
- 22:02hates and it's like, oh this is we can we talk about Beth corn?
- 22:09To high school and her orphanage uniform some more because the
- 22:13kids are so me. You're so mean but also she
- 22:17stands out so much. I'm just like, who let her go to
- 22:21school in this uniform. That's a messed up.
- 22:23This is we let her do bad things.
- 22:28Wheatley has forgotten how to be a parent.
- 22:30I mean, I think she knew how to be a parent.
- 22:32This is like me, just adopting a kid.
- 22:35I'm just gonna go pick up the kid one day and just hope for
- 22:38the best. I'll be calm.
- 22:39Knowing that would be terrible. if I ever see just a toddler,
- 22:46like, toddling behind you, while we do this, I'm like That would
- 22:55be bad for everybody. I will not give you the benefit
- 22:58of the doubt my God but I loved when she finally got to the
- 23:08tournament was cool like scene of the characters dressed.
- 23:12You know, it's like Gabrielle Bender, really start to create a
- 23:15world in this episode. This very classic 1950s dress
- 23:21Yes, I love all the shirts on the men.
- 23:23I thought they were all very nicely done.
- 23:26Especially it was nice to see Dudley from the Harry Potter
- 23:30series, show up in a character. That's not Dudley.
- 23:34Oh my gosh. That's Dudley Elizabeth.
- 23:37That's Dudley from Harry Potter. Who plays Harry Bell?
- 23:40Take, I just blew her mind right now.
- 23:44She looks so confusing us saying that to us, like my confused
- 23:49that I see it now, All because he did look like Vaguely
- 23:52Familiar but I was like okay whatever like he's barely in the
- 23:56series even though he has like a really big role ironically but
- 24:01oh my gosh I just assumed Dudley had like disappeared into the
- 24:04night. No he looks good.
- 24:08Like his outfit looks so good. Also towns who she meets him
- 24:14there for the first time as well.
- 24:16He looks fantastic. I'm sure he does.
- 24:19He always looks Static. He looks strangely familiar.
- 24:25Kind of looks like Sebastian Stan?
- 24:28No yeah that's why you like him. I mean, I like him.
- 24:32He's hot. I don't think he looks like
- 24:35Sebastian Stan. Anyways, I love all the outfits
- 24:39and all the men and this show a particularly this episode.
- 24:43Yeah, it's just so funny saying. Best just really dominate all
- 24:46these guys though and I like her still orphanage uniform and her
- 24:50crazy. Of, and she doesn't even give it
- 24:52a second thought when she played, and then when she like
- 24:55plays Harry felt like he's straight up late to their game
- 24:59because he just assumes he's going to win in like a couple
- 25:02moves. I guess.
- 25:03And she's just like, no, you're tripping.
- 25:05You're trippin. Hi.
- 25:07This is not not the first time. She's going to dominate.
- 25:10A whole bunch of men at chess. Is it Spencer?
- 25:12No, she's gonna do it every episode of she has to.
- 25:16So let's talk about episode 3, double ponds.
- 25:20I love this. Episode once, mrs.
- 25:22Wheatley, that her new girl is making some cash money off of
- 25:28dominating men and chest every week.
- 25:29He's down, she's down. She's into it.
- 25:32I like I don't know. Chess could be a job.
- 25:34Yeah, she's like. All right.
- 25:35You all the sick notes. You need to get out of school.
- 25:38Oh no, it's not terrible. So if the support of her mom,
- 25:42mrs. Wheatley, Beth wins her second
- 25:44competition and gains the ongoing support of mrs.
- 25:47Wheatley, she wants to travel the world, she even offered us
- 25:50herself, Be here agent. I want 10%.
- 25:53Which I thought was bizarre but also okay and Bethany and said
- 25:57sure we'll do 15% because Beth knows she's about to be making a
- 26:00lot of money. She continues to win and becomes
- 26:03a celebrity despite the fact that most of the press is all
- 26:06about that, she's just a young girl dominating everyone you're
- 26:09her celebrity she starts to become accepted but she finds
- 26:13herself unable to fit in with all the other chess players
- 26:16after heading to Las Vegas for tournament Beth.
- 26:19Finally meets her match. Match when she meets Benny W and
- 26:22loses her first game then that is doubled pawns.
- 26:26Yes, I love this episode because it's where she starts to get her
- 26:30style. Yeah, I love when you know,
- 26:34recently she saw a mannequin and she was just like with her new
- 26:37money. It's time to start stepping up
- 26:40the style and I love that she has no sense of what real style
- 26:43is. So she sees a mannequin and
- 26:46she's just like, well that's what style is so that's what I'm
- 26:49going to be. Yeah.
- 26:51I love it cuz she's like wins her first game and she has all
- 26:55like more money than she's ever had in her life.
- 26:57So she immediately goes, she's like, okay, gotta buy a chess
- 27:00set, Gotta Buy all these books and then like she sees that
- 27:03mannequin again and she's like and I'm gonna buy this dress.
- 27:07Hmm. Exactly.
- 27:08Off of the mannequin. There's just so many great
- 27:12outfits in this episode. I do you know where to start?
- 27:15There really are. I love the scenes with Beth and
- 27:19her mother just try. Traveling on the planes, you
- 27:23know, having some drinks, I love them like having dinner, and
- 27:26Vegas. The colors in the sets on the
- 27:29show are absolutely stunning. They're so good.
- 27:32And like, I love one heard. Her mom have dinner because it's
- 27:35like her mom's like, I don't know anything about Chess but
- 27:37I'll sit here and listen to you. Talk about it all day long.
- 27:40Yeah. She's essentially like I'm being
- 27:43paid to sit here and listen to you right now and that's fine
- 27:46with me like I have another drink.
- 27:47Please. Hey, I love her.
- 27:51Checkered dress with the white. That's probably the most for
- 27:55revealing shirt. She wears the whole time.
- 27:58Yeah, but that's where that first, the checkered pattern
- 28:01comes in, then when she's being interviewed, it's like the
- 28:04little, the dress, with the little white collar.
- 28:08And I think that with the white collar, that was probably my
- 28:10favorite one. Mmm.
- 28:12Yeah, I do love that. She literally is on a nose but
- 28:15wearing Checkers on her dress, like, you know, chess has become
- 28:19her life and it's not just Like what she does.
- 28:21It's just like she is chest and she embodies that and everything
- 28:25that she wears. I think that's so cool.
- 28:29I do have a bone to pick though, and I don't know if you're going
- 28:33to feel the same way, but there is I have a serious problem,
- 28:38okay. Benny w, i wrong with Benny, wha
- 28:45something here is not right? I like the costume on him.
- 28:49I like this, like out. Either bad guy type of cowboy
- 28:54look, he has kind of like a Star Wars Bounty Hunter look.
- 28:58But also, the kid looks like, he's like 12 with a fake beard,
- 29:03this costume, and the him do not match, it does not work.
- 29:07And it's not the costumes fault. It's not the designers fault.
- 29:10It's the casting. Like he is just like too young
- 29:14for this look. I don't like it.
- 29:17That man is in his 30s. Is he really?
- 29:20Wow, well, he looks good for big 30 but it's as if he really 30,
- 29:26he's we're gonna fact-check production.
- 29:29He was born in. Okay?
- 29:31He was born in 1990, so he's in his early 30s.
- 29:35Wow, he's older than us. That's crazy.
- 29:38I like the costume. I just don't feel like at this
- 29:42point in the show, it was ready for him.
- 29:44He does wear it like a version of it in a couple episodes from
- 29:48now and it works. But like, in this Third, it
- 29:51didn't work for me. I think he was really supposed
- 29:54to stand out. Gabrielle said to Vogue.
- 29:58I imagine many watts could be connected to Andy warhol's
- 30:03Factory. He's so different from everybody
- 30:05else. He's not the Chesapeake as with
- 30:07Beth. He's an outsider.
- 30:09Yeah, I get it. Yeah and I think maybe it's the
- 30:12Hat. I think it's the hat for me.
- 30:15It is the hat. That is part of the problem.
- 30:17The coat. Like if I was going to say
- 30:19anything, I think it's the code. Ooh, it's a little bit too much
- 30:22for him, especially wearing it inside.
- 30:24I'm like, dude, take your coat off.
- 30:26That's leather. How are you not dying?
- 30:29But yeah, it's the coat. I don't think it's so much that
- 30:32hat. Like I said, it's not the
- 30:35costume. For me, it's more like the
- 30:37casting and like, who he's supposed to be portraying at
- 30:40this point. It just didn't work for me.
- 30:43But why me he's supposed to be extremely young too?
- 30:46I don't think he's that much. That's what I'm saying.
- 30:48He's supposed to be like a young Yeah, this time.
- 30:52So I'm like I feel like he showed up dressed as like
- 30:55someone from The Good, the Bad and the Ugly with like you know,
- 30:59like a piece of a young guy in the 1950s.
- 31:02What do you think is inspiration is it's probably not the cowboy
- 31:05movies. Oh my gosh.
- 31:08All right, well, I got that off my chest.
- 31:14Good to know. Towns does make another
- 31:17appearance in this though. He's good.
- 31:19Oh yes. I was like For a second.
- 31:21I was like is he gonna get with Beth right now?
- 31:23And I was like I like it but he's too old for her.
- 31:27Also I think it was implying that that Beth is not really his
- 31:32type. I don't know.
- 31:33I was very confused. I'm pretty sure that was his
- 31:35boyfriend that walked in a hotel.
- 31:37Oh really? Yeah, I didn't put that
- 31:39together. I think so.
- 31:41I mean it was subtle but I had a feeling that a lot of like
- 31:45ambiguous stuff going on but I was like can this be explained?
- 31:48It'll take two seconds. The gift of read between the
- 31:53lines. I think you do but I'm also just
- 31:55like I want to know. I think that's why they didn't
- 31:58invite so that was more the fact that she was a minor.
- 32:01But yeah I mean that to anyway but all in all a very wonderful
- 32:11episode. I do love how Beth's hair
- 32:14starting to transform slowly. Yes, we're leaving the bar
- 32:18behind slowly we're not gonna like talk.
- 32:20Ali jump right into new hairstyle but start to morph,
- 32:23but she gets that like longer Bob.
- 32:26It's very, it's very nice. It flatters her face very well.
- 32:29It's a good look for her. Yeah, like this works.
- 32:32You know this hairstyle works and there was one dress, I love
- 32:36to while she's playing with Benny.
- 32:39She has like that blue top with the white skirt.
- 32:42Oh yeah, like the kind of Sailor top.
- 32:44Yeah. So cute.
- 32:46I love it. She looks good in blue.
- 32:49It's so cute. That color looks green.
- 32:52Onion onion, Taylor. Joins just looks good and
- 32:54everything. That's just she does what it is.
- 32:57You sound a little bit confused while we're describing like her
- 33:00outfits. It's just because they're so
- 33:02many of them. There's so many of them, right?
- 33:06I mean there's, she must have like two million looks.
- 33:09I don't even know how a costume designer put all this together.
- 33:11It's just incredible. It's insane.
- 33:15Like, I feel like she has 20, like different looks.
- 33:18I would say more than 20 each episode.
- 33:20So each episode I mean this is why Gabrielle Benders nominated
- 33:27for an Emmy this year and it's so well deserved.
- 33:30I mean I would not be surprised if she won.
- 33:32It's just this is brilliant work.
- 33:35It's insane. And I believe most of it was
- 33:39custom made for her probably. But anyway with that we have
- 33:43some more chess tournaments coming up.
- 33:45So I think we need to take a break and study up on our moves
- 33:49and we'll come up with A game plan on the other side night to
- 33:52be five. I'm gonna do the Sicilian after
- 33:55this. Whatever that means.
- 33:58The Sicilian open, I have no idea.
- 34:01Let me go. And welcome back.
- 34:25It is episode 4 middle game. So, episode for Middle game,
- 34:31Beth graduates, from high school finally, and goes to her first
- 34:34tournament abroad in Mexico City.
- 34:37She's excited. Her mother is excited to meet up
- 34:40with a long time, pen pal. So while her mother is having
- 34:44the time of her life Beth Is stressing over playing the most
- 34:48experienced player? She's ever faced from the USSR
- 34:52morgoth. She's just studying, studying
- 34:55studying, and her mother's like, calm down.
- 34:57We're in Mexico, have some fun. So, she meets up with some guys
- 35:02who she seen at a couple of the tourneys tries to widen her
- 35:05Social Circle and she's upset when she has to face off with
- 35:11borgov and concede the game. She loses However, this ends up
- 35:17being the least of her worries, when sadly, she gets to her
- 35:20hotel room to find her mother has passed away.
- 35:24That was so sad. I hated that scene.
- 35:27It was so sad because she's just talking to her and talking to
- 35:30her and talking to her. And then she looks over and it's
- 35:33like, she's fully dead. I love this who's talking to her
- 35:37dead mom about Chess and her mom's like good.
- 35:42That's the way. Oh, it was so terrible and then
- 35:47that terrible the hotel manager when he when he's like oh we're
- 35:52going to like take care of your entire Bill.
- 35:54Don't worry about it. And there was a really big
- 35:56liquor built. There was a really big liquor
- 35:59bill. It's like, by the way, I have an
- 36:02idea on how this might have happened and I think we should
- 36:05look to the liquor bill for maybe some insight.
- 36:09I'm just like, dude, if you're taking care of the bill, either
- 36:12way, why'd you bring it up to me in a way?
- 36:14I feel like this is kind of Me Billy, don't worry.
- 36:17I'll help you. Even though you're severely
- 36:19inconveniencing. Me and this is going to take up
- 36:22a lot of my time but I'll take care of it.
- 36:25I was that, I'd be like I didn't ask you to do that.
- 36:29Okay, please don't my mother just died.
- 36:33My father is like you take care of this, not willing to like,
- 36:38lift a finger to help ya. I don't need your Shame about he
- 36:43literally just like gives her some notes on it.
- 36:46We're like the family plot is on the all this stuff and expects
- 36:49Beth to be writing it down and like put it in the email, send
- 36:52it to my Yahoo account, like, send a letter.
- 36:56Why don't you call these people and be like, hey, that's Jake is
- 37:01going to show up with my dead wife.
- 37:03Before I talk about the costumes, I just want to ask how
- 37:06the hell did Beth graduate from high school?
- 37:09She never went, she never went, I assume she probably like a lot
- 37:14of those kids. They just like, do They as long
- 37:16as they like turn in all the work, that's to do, and take the
- 37:19test, like, they're fine. And like, clearly throughout the
- 37:23show, like there are flashbacks to her and her mother, like her
- 37:26birth mother, and her birth mother was like a mathematical
- 37:29genius. So, and clearly that those
- 37:32smart, so I think she just like blows through her school work.
- 37:36I wish I was good at math. Me too good for you Beth.
- 37:39I'm glad you graduated from high school.
- 37:41I just did not see that. Coming, my father's sick notes,
- 37:44she was putting in Right. All right.
- 37:47Liz with there's a lot of costumes to talk about in this
- 37:49episode. There's a lot and like, this is
- 37:52where she really comes into her own style because she's like, oh
- 37:57yeah, I mean, this is the fashion episode.
- 38:01Yeah. She's winning competitions like
- 38:04left, right and Center. She's raking in that prize
- 38:07money. She puts it to good use in her
- 38:10closet. The first thing where I was
- 38:12like, ooh, Beth is that that white dress.
- 38:16Us with the v-neck that she wears.
- 38:18When she's hmm? The I think it's like the first
- 38:20day of the competition in Mexico.
- 38:22I was like, oh hello. Yeah, like those the little
- 38:26button straps. I'm like, this is gorgeous.
- 38:30I love that dress, so much and we look closely at the buttons
- 38:34on it. There's a checkerboard within
- 38:36it. There is nothing.
- 38:39It's so much fun. Yeah.
- 38:41Oh that's a good dress. I love it.
- 38:42So so much such a good dress and her mother.
- 38:45Her is also looking good. She's hanging out with her pen
- 38:49pal. She looks good.
- 38:50She's just like I'm dancing. I'm having a good time.
- 38:54She's living her best life. She is loving it.
- 38:57She's like, I love chess. Chess Rock.
- 39:01Just, right. I'm going out tonight.
- 39:03You have fun. And she's like, Okay.
- 39:07And like what you said about like, oh, the checkers.
- 39:10The checkers are like all over her wardrobe.
- 39:12She wears that adorable swimsuit.
- 39:14Oh yeah, the Checker is all over.
- 39:16And I didn't even notice that when I was watching it but I'm
- 39:18like, wow. She's like literally wearing
- 39:20like a chessboard type, you know, pattern on her swimsuit.
- 39:24Even everything. Everything is chess.
- 39:27Chess is life just as life for her.
- 39:30I love this idea that she's playing chess, but she's not
- 39:33even doing it for the money. She's doing it because like,
- 39:35this is what she loves and what she knows and like she has all
- 39:39this money now and the only thing she uses it is to buy
- 39:42clothes because other than that, she doesn't even care.
- 39:45She's Like, I guess I could buy more clothes that have to do
- 39:48with chess. Yeah, she really doesn't.
- 39:51She just like, buys clothes and books and like books about Chess
- 39:56and that's it. I do love the scene where she
- 39:59hangs out with all of her friends from the Russian class.
- 40:02I just love this top that Beth is wearing because it's black
- 40:05and it just has like little accents of white in it.
- 40:08And it's just like I love this monochromatic wardrobe that
- 40:12she's doing, it's just everything is about Chess.
- 40:14Everything is about Chess every single outfit.
- 40:18She's wearing checkerboard pants too.
- 40:20I just realized. Yeah, it's so subtle.
- 40:25It's so subtle and it really comes out in this episode.
- 40:28And then I love once again, the guys, in this episode look very
- 40:32Dapper Borg off. His suit is beautiful.
- 40:36Like, who the Russians put a lot of money into you if there was
- 40:41ever a character or a costume that screamed like us.
- 40:45I mean, USSR. It's this costumed character.
- 40:49I mean, just him sitting at the chess table, I like, oh, that
- 40:52must be Borg off. He looks exactly like how you'd
- 40:55imagine him. Yeah, it's like oh yeah, you're
- 40:59the Russian player. The costumes.
- 41:03Perfect. Also love the the kid she plays
- 41:06earlier in the episode who's also Russian that was a cute
- 41:10scene. He's so cute and I'm like, oh my
- 41:12gosh, you're like a mini bore. Gosh, I loved Hello, Beth play
- 41:17that kid. She was making me nervous.
- 41:19I think her tactic was just a make him so stress or she would
- 41:23walk away. Start tapping her foot.
- 41:25I'd be like, okay yeah. I give up you win.
- 41:29Yeah. She's just like stressing him
- 41:31out and then I think she feels bad afterwards though, because
- 41:34he's like our drive-in movies are real thing and she's like,
- 41:38yeah, of course. They like, what are you talking
- 41:40about? I'm just like Beth.
- 41:41Why did he have to make an example of this little kid?
- 41:44Like, I swear She is like a like a medieval warrior or something
- 41:50when it comes to chess, she just makes examples of people.
- 41:53I'm like, he's a kid growing up in Soviet.
- 41:55Russia could give him some slack.
- 41:58The last no I want to give is that the textiles that mrs.
- 42:02Wheatley. Where's are just so beautiful.
- 42:04I just want to touch all her Fabrics.
- 42:06I'll just look so comfortable. She's wearing like a quilted
- 42:10fabric at one point that just looks so nice and plush and
- 42:13cozy, especially cuz like her Wardrobe.
- 42:16There's not like a ton of Culp color and it like that she's a
- 42:20very monochromatic dresser but you don't notice it because the
- 42:25textiles are always very interesting.
- 42:28Yeah, I also feel like compared to the mrs.
- 42:31Wheatley, we met and episode 2 like when she took Beth shopping
- 42:35and she's wearing this a very gray like really gloomy black
- 42:39and white outfit. Now, she has like a little bit
- 42:41of color, you know, it's pastel. There's a little bit of pink and
- 42:45blue. Blew her Silhouettes are like
- 42:47really fun. It's almost like she's starting
- 42:49to come back to life as she met her new pen pal.
- 42:53Fortunately things don't work out for ya.
- 42:55And her pen pal. So, that's when I think she
- 42:58Resorts back to her old ways. But for a little bit, we got to
- 43:02see the happy mrs. Wheatley.
- 43:04And I liked it a lot so good. But uh Beth is about to go off
- 43:09the rails a little bit. Yeah, so an episode 5 known as
- 43:13Fork after her mother's death Beth Turns home and receives an
- 43:17unlikely call from Harry belltech, who offers to train
- 43:21her? And she's definitely in a very
- 43:23dark place at this time. She's very upset, she not only
- 43:28lost her mom, but I think above all, she's upset that she lost
- 43:32the game to just two major blows in one day.
- 43:37Yeah, I don't know which one was worse for her to losing to borga
- 43:41for to losing her mother literally.
- 43:44So she moves back home, And Harry belted calls.
- 43:47Her offers a train her. So, he moves in with her and
- 43:50coaches, her an attempt to get closer to Beth.
- 43:53But, but soon, leaves, when he finds out that Beth does not
- 43:56care about him the same way he cares about her and he moves
- 43:59out. Also, he realizes that she's way
- 44:02better at chess than him. So this training is really kind
- 44:05of useless. Beth goes to tournament and
- 44:08Ohio, where she runs into Benny W again and beats him at a game
- 44:12of chess afterwards. Benny offers to train her in New
- 44:15York? So she can play later on in
- 44:18Russia. I love this episode.
- 44:20I thought was really nice. I loved lots of great costumes
- 44:25in this episode. I think it's very, very typical
- 44:29of Harry belltech thinking that if I do something for you, then
- 44:33you have to do something for me. Which includes loving me.
- 44:36And Beth is like, no, that's not how it works.
- 44:40He gets all upset and leaves. I don't like this guy.
- 44:44No men. I know I didn't like him either
- 44:49cuz like a, it's weird cause like he met her during a chess
- 44:54tournament. When she was like 15 and like,
- 44:57like he's been following her career all these years and he's
- 45:00like, oh I fix my teeth for you to do the he's like in love with
- 45:04her, for no apparent reason. Just because she beat him at
- 45:07chess, once it's a real weird, the real toxic masculinity,
- 45:11really jumped out of Herring this episode.
- 45:13Like what do you mean I got my teeth?
- 45:15For you. And now I trained you and you're
- 45:17not in love with me. Yeah, she's like, no.
- 45:22She's like, I just want to really read this book about
- 45:24Chess right now, but you could leave if you want.
- 45:27And he's so he does. I'm just like, this is weird.
- 45:31These some of these characters, I just want to shake them
- 45:33sometimes. I know she misses him, but she's
- 45:36like, I have another competition to go to and to look amazing.
- 45:41And again, she starts to wear these little like headscarves.
- 45:44And I'm like, yes. It looks so good on you.
- 45:47So nice are definitely starting to get into the 60s here.
- 45:51Definitely, with these prints and fabrics.
- 45:54I do love before we go to the competition.
- 45:58Ohio, I love Beth's costume where she's just wearing like a
- 46:02black T-shirt. It's just like her kind of
- 46:04casually at home while she's with Harry.
- 46:07Oh yeah. With love like mock turtleneck.
- 46:09Yeah, I love that. Look on her.
- 46:11She's just so sophisticated and cool and classy.
- 46:14She really is Very 60s, but it's just as like I love black on
- 46:19her. She looks really good in black
- 46:21and she just looks so sophisticated, and I love it so
- 46:24good. But at the competition is where
- 46:27she really shines. It's like, she like waits to go
- 46:30to a competition to book. Pull out all of her, nice stuff.
- 46:33Oh yeah, like I love this. I think it's the First costume.
- 46:37She's wearing it. Has the like the stripes in like
- 46:44Navy and red with like, Those cute little skirt that buttons
- 46:48on the side. I was like, yes.
- 46:50Like you look so cute, girl, I love that color on her.
- 46:54I love that when she is not playing chess, she kind of
- 46:58experiments with her neck lines a little bit.
- 47:00And since that she's like, okay, I could be a little bit more
- 47:03revealing because, you know, I've still a young woman I want
- 47:07to like just be sexy, she wants to be sexy on there, you know,
- 47:12on her time but not on chess is time.
- 47:15She's playing with different shapes.
- 47:17I love the skirt on her and I love the use of headbands, like
- 47:20you mentioned. But yeah, that blue and red top
- 47:24that she's wearing is very, very nice.
- 47:26It is, that was like my favorite look of this episode especially
- 47:29because it's like probably the most fun, like, kind of flirty
- 47:33thing she's worn so far because like, even she always looks
- 47:37great. But it's always like very
- 47:38structured and that had a little little less structure to it.
- 47:42I think one of my favorite outfits of this Episode is when
- 47:46her and Benny go into the auditorium and she's wearing
- 47:51this really fun 60s textile and their squares all over it like a
- 47:57checkerboard or chess board but it's like retro and 60s or it's
- 48:02almost like a funky chessboard where it's still squares, but
- 48:05it's all different colors. That's so fun.
- 48:08I love that's like, oh no, I'm still dedicated to chess but you
- 48:11know, we're starting to get a little groovy here with our
- 48:13textiles to yes. So good and that even when she
- 48:20finally beats Benny and she's just, she's like so serious in
- 48:25this because she's got like her black head scarf, the black, and
- 48:28like white trimmed shirt and just like, think just like a
- 48:33khaki skirt because she's like, this is business right now.
- 48:36I can't be too too interested in anything else.
- 48:40Yes, such a good episode. I think this might have been one
- 48:44of my favorites. So, Before we start to wrap up
- 48:47this the show, I think we should take one more break because we
- 48:50have a lot of chess moves to study.
- 48:53There's a lot of chess moves with study and Beth.
- 48:55Just makes a lot of moves in her personal life as well.
- 48:58Yeah, neither. Rest up before I get into all
- 49:01those tranquilizers again. Yeah.
- 49:26All right. Spencer, are you ready for
- 49:28episode 6? Adjournment?
- 49:30What if I said, I wasn't ready too bad, too bad, we're headed
- 49:36right into it Beth and Benny, he's driving her to his home in
- 49:40New York. They play mental chest, the
- 49:41whole way there, which I was like, that's too much.
- 49:44But you do you Do they get to New York Benny's life is not
- 49:50what she's expecting. However, she ends up learning a
- 49:54lot from him and meet some new friends, including a glamorous,
- 49:59French model Cleo, before she heads to a tournament in Paris.
- 50:05There she's ready to face off with Borg off again and she's
- 50:10crushing the competition. However the night before, she's
- 50:13about to face off with more golf.
- 50:15No surprises her and is like, hey, I'm in Paris.
- 50:18Let's have drinks and Beth is like, maybe a drink because
- 50:22she's kind of stopped drinking at this point.
- 50:25She knows it's not the best for her.
- 50:27It was like, okay, a drink, she gets drunk shows up to her
- 50:32competition with Warg of late and hungover, and is forced to
- 50:37resign the game losing tuborg off yet again and making things
- 50:42worse when Beth gets home. Mr. Wheatley is trying to throw
- 50:47her out of the house even though he said like, oh yeah you can
- 50:50live there just make the mortgage payments now he's like
- 50:52hmm. No I need the money.
- 50:54This house will bring in from being sold so like get out and
- 50:58she's like well you want to sell it.
- 50:59I'll buy it because she's just as good at saving money as
- 51:03playing chess apparently. So she buys the house.
- 51:08She starts remodeling it. She's just trying to get over
- 51:12the loss of her game, tuborg off and the Lost.
- 51:15Mother, but she quickly spirals out of control causing both
- 51:21Harry Bell tick and her old friend Jolene to intervene.
- 51:26That's was a good episode. This was a good episode cuz
- 51:29like, clearly she had a problem. The first couple episodes, but
- 51:33then like through some people being like, hey, maybe lay off
- 51:37your pills and drinking, she kind of, like, low-key gets it
- 51:41together, and then this episode, it, just all falls apart.
- 51:45Yeah, she goes on a spiral. So I do love the scenes with
- 51:51Beth and Benny at Benny's home in New York.
- 51:54I feel like Benny's character is.
- 51:56Now fully realized. I love the costumes on him.
- 51:59Do you approve of him now? I like I said we just have to
- 52:04get there and we got there and now I think it's working.
- 52:07He just had to grow into his character.
- 52:10You know, has he got older and more mature?
- 52:12Yeah, he's a little less cowboy in this.
- 52:16And a little more like it has more of that like musician vibe
- 52:19to him, which I think is much better.
- 52:22It works for back to I was not expecting that.
- 52:26I was like oh okay, definitely work for Beth.
- 52:30I don't really see it but you know, chess players deserve love
- 52:34to they do they do. Let's talk about this trip to
- 52:39Paris. Yeah, that's why I was about to
- 52:41say, let's get into the parish trip because this is where her
- 52:44fashion Isn't this episode? She looks so good in that, like,
- 52:51light green and black dress, when she's facing off with ward
- 52:54off. I'm like, ah, I know it's so
- 52:58good. It's so good.
- 53:00It's like, you are a hot mess emphasis on Bhai well II.
- 53:07So they kind of like, preview the scene at the very beginning
- 53:10in episode 1, where she walks in all lay.
- 53:13I remember watching it was I who, that outfits.
- 53:15Good. And it's like quickly changed
- 53:17her being an orphan. I was like oh that's sad.
- 53:20So when we got back to the scene and she's like marching through
- 53:22the hallways all hungover, but still looking like at her best
- 53:26though I was just in love. I was like oh yeah this is to
- 53:30show for me and it paid off when we got to the scene.
- 53:33It really does and like it looks so good on her.
- 53:36However the style of it isn't super fitted like the sleeves
- 53:41kind of like bail out a little bit.
- 53:43Like it's more of like a Eight fit than fitted to her waist.
- 53:48So like even though it looks so good on her because she's so
- 53:52fidgety and like hung over it just like wrinkles in the right
- 53:56places to make hurt like so that you know like oh she is like she
- 54:00is struggling. Yeah.
- 54:03You she's like constantly pouring herself water which, you
- 54:06know, we all been there. But every time she goes to like,
- 54:09pour yourself some water. You could see like the costume
- 54:12really just kind of like just kind of dangling all over the
- 54:14place you're like oh Guys she's a mess right now.
- 54:17This is like The Struggle Bus is in full force right now.
- 54:21It's so real and I love for God keeps looking at her like what
- 54:25are you doing? I think even for golf is
- 54:28disappointed like I think he is deep down he's like oh you know
- 54:32like playing this girls actually pretty fun because she is a
- 54:35worthy Challenge and she showed up late a hot mess and he's just
- 54:38like disappointed. He's like really girl I was
- 54:41hoping for something a little more here.
- 54:44Yeah. He's Disappointed were
- 54:46disappointed because he's like, I've faced off with you before
- 54:51and you were you had it together.
- 54:53You weren't messy all this because she had to get a drink
- 54:57with Cleo, which I just want to talk about the scene, because
- 55:01she had to wear that red dress. Yeah, that looked good on her.
- 55:06I was like, oh, she looks gonna read but Cleo my God.
- 55:10She is beautiful. But no, I love that red dress
- 55:13and it's just like she comes down.
- 55:15She's wearing like, I love this to look like the comfiest
- 55:18outfit, she wore in the entire series, it's this huge cream
- 55:23turtleneck sweater, and then just like some cigarette pants.
- 55:27I guess they look like leggings but I'm like the 60s?
- 55:31They're clearly not leggings, but she looks so comfy.
- 55:34She's like got her tea and I was like, I kind of have expected
- 55:37her like, just a go down in that.
- 55:39But it's, when she comes down, in that red dress, I'm like, oh
- 55:42no, oh no, this isn't gonna go away.
- 55:45Well, oh no, it's the red dress. We have a red dress and like
- 55:49every episode now that we've talked about.
- 55:53Anytime I red dress shows up, you know, it's about to go down,
- 55:56something's about to go down and I was like, okay, well, maybe
- 55:59she will just have one drink and that'll be it.
- 56:01No, the scene changes and there's like four cups in front
- 56:04of her and then Cleo's like, ooh, let's go talk to these hot
- 56:08guys over here. And she's like, okay, this is a
- 56:13disaster. So fast forward.
- 56:16Paris definitely does not work out.
- 56:18So now we have to talk about a death spiral out of control.
- 56:22When she gets home, this is a real spiral.
- 56:25Oh my gosh. It's so bad.
- 56:27So bad, so bad. I love that outfit.
- 56:30She's wearing when she hits her head, just like this nasty blue
- 56:34tank top and a tan sweater, unlike honey.
- 56:38What are you doing? Yeah, it's just, she looks.
- 56:41She looks like a mess and I love that as a costume designer
- 56:45guess. Real Bender really like she was
- 56:47able to display emotion through the clothes that Beth was
- 56:51wearing through each scene and like this tank top even though
- 56:54it's literally just like this really messy kind of tacky tank
- 56:58top. It says so much about how she's
- 56:59feeling and right now she's feeling an absolute tragic mess
- 57:04right now. Yeah shows even when she cleans
- 57:07herself up, it doesn't get any better because it's like, okay,
- 57:10she has to go to that competition to like take a
- 57:13picture. Do a piece, whatever.
- 57:15Like gotta be neon, which I'm like.
- 57:17That is the look of every suffering Millennial.
- 57:21Like when you have a hangover and you have to go do something
- 57:25the next day, it's like, okay, here's your beanie, like she's
- 57:28wearing that like weird orange top like black jacket and her
- 57:33make. She her makeup is always on
- 57:34point in this scene while it is very like cool and trendy.
- 57:38It's like you're clearly trying to like cover something up here.
- 57:41Like you're in Kentucky, not New York.
- 57:43Yeah, it's very Twiggy. Tired and it's just like I love
- 57:47that she looks too. She doesn't have her own sense
- 57:51of style, you know, she's developed over the years.
- 57:53But she her style is very from, you know, watching TV, like she
- 57:57was doing when she was spiraling and she's like oh that's like
- 58:00the character. I'm going to study and become
- 58:02now to like cover up the exact disaster.
- 58:05She hasn't side of her. Yeah.
- 58:07And but she's still like the tragedy is still peeking
- 58:11through. I was so sad about this High
- 58:13School scene. I was just really upset.
- 58:15Cuz I really was hoping it'd be like a fun reunions and she
- 58:19screwed it up. She screwed it up like that
- 58:22really nice girl who was the purse first person she be in a
- 58:26competition comes just the Seer to be like oh hey like
- 58:29congratulations. So excited.
- 58:32I was like she's back it's gonna be so cute and Beth is just
- 58:35like, huh, what? Yeah, she like starts trying to
- 58:40smoke in the high school just like girl get it together, man,
- 58:44get it together. And like, even Harry comes in
- 58:47his. Like I've seen you at the
- 58:49grocery store and haven't said anything because I know she's
- 58:53not good. I can see you from down the
- 58:56aisle. You look like a real mess right
- 58:57now, please? What?
- 59:01A disaster, but things start to turn around when Beth gets home
- 59:06and we have the return of one of my favorite characters, Jolene
- 59:10shows up, I love jolene's costume, it's very like 60s.
- 59:17I love the hair and a black leather jacket with the orange
- 59:21turtleneck. It's just this look is so right?
- 59:24I love it so much it is and like she was at the orphanage.
- 59:28She was always like the tough girl, and it's like, she's
- 59:31clearly still that, but she's all grown up.
- 59:34She's like sophisticated and like ready to Take On The World
- 59:37in this outfit Jolene shows up. And she's just like this is a
- 59:41real Freaking disaster and I'm here to help you because you're
- 59:44a real mess. I could I could sense it from
- 59:47across the country, you're a real disaster.
- 59:50Yeah. Well let's let's just get into
- 59:55just how much Jolene helps her. Okay.
- 59:58So episode 7 and game jolene's. Visit is prompted by the death
- 1:00:04of mr. Schabel and hopes that they can
- 1:00:07go to the funeral together after the funeral Beth and Jolene
- 1:00:11visit The orphanage where they grew up and discover that mr.
- 1:00:14Schabel was following Beth's career than Tire time with the
- 1:00:17help of Jolene, Beth is able to get herself back together so she
- 1:00:21could go and compete in Russia. Once she gets to Russia, Beth is
- 1:00:26destroying the competition. Just like we knew she would
- 1:00:29she's just really putting people down but during her adjourned
- 1:00:32game with bar graph, she gets a visit from an old friend towns
- 1:00:36with assistance from all of her friends back home.
- 1:00:39Help her in her final Faceoff of bar graph.
- 1:00:41They They come together almost like the chest Avengers and the
- 1:00:45episode titled and game, which is interesting.
- 1:00:49But through her own genius and self-realization that Beth beats
- 1:00:53Borg off and understands just how much she is capable of.
- 1:00:56This is a beautiful episode. I loved it.
- 1:00:59The Perfect finale gave me everything, I needed.
- 1:01:02It really is Jolene. Comes and realizes like with
- 1:01:07Anna, couple minutes that Beth is just out of control.
- 1:01:11She's like, I haven't seen you in years and I know there's a
- 1:01:14major problem here. Yeah you look and smell like a
- 1:01:18mess. Just look at you.
- 1:01:19Yeah, yeah. She's like you need to get it
- 1:01:22together. When she opens the cabinet and
- 1:01:25sees the old tranquilizers, they used to get she's like I told
- 1:01:29you to be careful with because I'm a little things like girl,
- 1:01:33and then also at the same time though, I'm like, I don't want
- 1:01:36to say it's jolene's, fault, because it's not, but she didn't
- 1:01:39really do much in a sense of making.
- 1:01:41She didn't take these tranquilizers when they were
- 1:01:44kids, you know? She, yeah, they were also kids.
- 1:01:47They were kids, but she kind of encouraged it in a way.
- 1:01:50So, but it's not Julian's fault. But at that must have been a
- 1:01:53daunting moment when she opened the cabinet was like, you
- 1:01:58weren't careful with these. This is a great episode.
- 1:02:04I love all the scenes that Jolene and Beth had together.
- 1:02:07I love their cute little tennis outfits.
- 1:02:10I love that they're like very Be kind of matching where Beth has
- 1:02:13like her white headband and Jolene has her blue headband.
- 1:02:17Very cute. I'm so mad at Beth though, for
- 1:02:20not visiting mr. Schabel, before all this
- 1:02:23happened, I know because I feel like after she got banned from
- 1:02:28playing chess like they didn't speak after that and then you
- 1:02:32see the cork board with like all her gains and the articles about
- 1:02:38her and the picture and it's just messed up.
- 1:02:40She was like his I know I'm so mad at the showrunners for
- 1:02:45making me. Watch scene.
- 1:02:47I was crying out. There you are.
- 1:02:51I was like this is too much like, I can't but yeah, the
- 1:02:56costumes and these first scenes are brilliant, but let's just
- 1:02:59get to Russia. We all know that.
- 1:03:01That's where we want to talk about the costumes.
- 1:03:03It is. And this is again, where
- 1:03:07Gabrielle brought in that green color again?
- 1:03:11Which for her. She wanted to represent home
- 1:03:14though. She said we wanted to create a
- 1:03:16moment when she could once again come home which is why she's
- 1:03:20wearing the same color dress in the final tournament in Moscow
- 1:03:23is the color that really makes her fragile.
- 1:03:26But in the end, it's the same color is her strength and
- 1:03:30symbolic of a homecoming and it's like, she really does come
- 1:03:33into her own in these last couple scenes.
- 1:03:37Oh yeah. And I love that like she's in a
- 1:03:40good place. She feels healthy.
- 1:03:41You see if I believe sober and she's just like really pulling
- 1:03:46out all of her best looks because like this is like what
- 1:03:49her entire life and career has led up to.
- 1:03:52So, she puts everything she has into these days in Russia and
- 1:03:55it's so satisfying. It's so good.
- 1:03:58And like, every single dress is a knockout.
- 1:04:01Like, there's that gray green woman with like, the almost like
- 1:04:05Bill and looking collar. There's her tan checkered jacket
- 1:04:10that she wears. Every Read a which I was like oh
- 1:04:14I was like oh this is a good one, I love that coat, Gabrielle
- 1:04:19said of that coat, the checkered coat that she wears to leave the
- 1:04:22tournament. In Moscow was a beautiful
- 1:04:24vintage piece that we found, which I believe was designed by
- 1:04:28Andre Korg as in a American designer as part of a
- 1:04:32collaboration. This was a very self-confident
- 1:04:35piece, we wanted the visuals of a strong decision referenced by
- 1:04:39the checks. I was like, yeah.
- 1:04:41Yeah, I love that in the finale. She just pulls out, like, her
- 1:04:45greatest like checkerboard print like this.
- 1:04:47Is it, you know? Yeah.
- 1:04:50There's just so much good stuff in this episode.
- 1:04:52I didn't even mention the t-shirts that she wears before
- 1:04:55she gets to Moscow. All the hand made t-shirts.
- 1:04:58Are they handmade? They're so good.
- 1:05:01Almost everything in the show was handmade.
- 1:05:03Oh wow. Gabrielle been Digger with
- 1:05:06killing it man. Yeah she was.
- 1:05:09There's just every look I just Also, I love when she gets into
- 1:05:13her seat to her hotel in Russia and she late sits down on the
- 1:05:18bed and like the coat with like the textile on the bed at the
- 1:05:22same time, it just works so beautifully.
- 1:05:25It's so good. And I love when she's um she's
- 1:05:29in that game against the older Russian player.
- 1:05:33I was kind of like this hour. I'm sorry.
- 1:05:37That was fun though. That was so much fun.
- 1:05:39He was a great player but then she wears that Like that green
- 1:05:43velvet dress and I was like like it looks so comfy and like she
- 1:05:49was like I'm comfy and confident how about you?
- 1:05:52Yeah, she's like she's so confident right now.
- 1:05:55She's not worried about anything.
- 1:05:57Like whatever happens is gonna happen but she's pretty sure
- 1:06:00she's gonna win and then she goes to play Borg off and like
- 1:06:04you said she's wearing like that green undertone and it's kind of
- 1:06:07like a gray, but has like green undertones to it.
- 1:06:10I loved a structure. On it.
- 1:06:12I love the princess seams is so stunning and like this is the
- 1:06:15ultimate Peter Pan collar. Yeah, I mean, I love it so much.
- 1:06:20It's like they had pull off everything and her last match
- 1:06:24and I what I loved about this episode is that we had and this
- 1:06:28is true for like a lot of for life and people you meet but
- 1:06:32like you have this predetermined notion on how people are going
- 1:06:35to be is this character going to be evil?
- 1:06:38Are they going to be mean? You know, are they here too?
- 1:06:41It's ruined me but I love that like and playing, you know that
- 1:06:44one chest where you mentioned who look like Einstein and also
- 1:06:47borga like at the end of each match, you know, the Einstein
- 1:06:51guys like, you know, I really love playing for you.
- 1:06:53You're one of the best players I've ever played and this is
- 1:06:55like a real honor and when she plays Borg off he like,
- 1:06:59literally like reaches out his hand and he's like, I'm so proud
- 1:07:02of you, you know, like you did that and they hug.
- 1:07:06That's what I said. That's what I start crying.
- 1:07:10I'm actually a little teary-eyed talk.
- 1:07:11Talking about it because I was just like that, you know, I felt
- 1:07:15like the whole time I was like, oh, this guy's evil, you know,
- 1:07:17and he's just like I'm so proud of you, like, you killed that
- 1:07:20Beth was like, that's right, she killed it.
- 1:07:24I was like those in my living room, clapping like a maniac.
- 1:07:29It's just so good. The best ending, you know.
- 1:07:33I keep hearing people saying like we better get a season 2.
- 1:07:36I'm like, why? What else is there like snow?
- 1:07:39There's no need for a season 2. Is perfect.
- 1:07:43I would just end it. Now everything that needs to be
- 1:07:46said, had to be said, literally her final outfit.
- 1:07:50Oh white hat. With the puth, the white jacket.
- 1:07:54She is the queen of the chessboard of the world
- 1:07:58literally sits down to play with those old Russian men.
- 1:08:01And she's like, it's almost like now chassis for fun.
- 1:08:04Yeah. I was already crying after the
- 1:08:06Singapore Gogh, and then when she's just walking on the
- 1:08:08streets in this white coat with like the black pika, Hang out
- 1:08:12and the white cap with a little puff on the top.
- 1:08:15I was like she's literally a queen piece from the board.
- 1:08:18Yeah that's with this. I started to cry some more.
- 1:08:22Like I've never seen a costume that so perfectly wrapped up a
- 1:08:26show like this. This is beautiful like she is
- 1:08:29confident, she has a together, she is achieved everything she
- 1:08:33wanted in life so far and she you like she has this air of
- 1:08:37like, okay, I'm ready for whatever is next.
- 1:08:40Hey, Gabrielle been there. Like I said it was nominated for
- 1:08:43an Emmy and this was the episode that they submitted and I think
- 1:08:46so rightfully. I mean, just this queen outfit?
- 1:08:50Yeah, that was it, you know, that was a nomination.
- 1:08:52Just and this one that costume, let alone the entire show.
- 1:08:56So I just thought it was so beautiful.
- 1:08:58I can watch a scene over and over she just looks so happy.
- 1:09:02She's glowing. She looks like an angel.
- 1:09:04She's the queen of the world. Right now, she's like beat the
- 1:09:08game. You know, she finished a game
- 1:09:10against Borg off of her. And her wind but I feel like she
- 1:09:12also like one and a game against herself and like the battles of
- 1:09:16all for addiction depression. She's finally coming to who she
- 1:09:20is. She's found herself and I just
- 1:09:23love it. I love it so much.
- 1:09:25Yeah, it's so good and like we didn't really touch on it but
- 1:09:28like this last episode, she's really coming to terms with like
- 1:09:32who her birth mother was and like how she kind of like ended
- 1:09:36up where she is today, and she's like, don't cry Elizabeth.
- 1:09:40I'm gonna cry with you. I'll try not to so good and that
- 1:09:46brings us to the end of the Queens Gambit.
- 1:09:48Oh my gosh. I love this show.
- 1:09:51I'm so glad we watched it. I'm probably gonna re-watch it
- 1:09:54honestly because I just loved it so much.
- 1:09:57I like, wasn't expecting to like it this much, like anything was
- 1:10:01like any sport in it, like, I'm immediately like, okay, I'm
- 1:10:05probably not going to watch that.
- 1:10:08That's just like, my starting point.
- 1:10:11Like, I'm just Like, not a big Sports person.
- 1:10:13Like, I'm like, I'm not gonna understand half the references,
- 1:10:16but like, Anya, Taylor joy, in this role, she makes it so
- 1:10:22interesting. Yeah, I mean, she deserves her
- 1:10:25Emmy nomination would not be surprised if she wins.
- 1:10:28She is so impressive in this role, she's so impressive.
- 1:10:32Like everything else comes together to from like the
- 1:10:35script, the direction, the set design, the costumes, everything
- 1:10:40just like rolls together, And it's like, oh, this is good.
- 1:10:43I would say, this is a perfect TV show.
- 1:10:45I don't have anything any negative things to say about it.
- 1:10:50I love that so much and I'm so glad we watched it.
- 1:10:53So what are we watching next week?
- 1:10:56Spencer, are you ready to just head in a wildly different
- 1:11:01direction? I'm ready.
- 1:11:03I've no more crying. I need something less crying who
- 1:11:07could cry and be perfectly situated world.
- 1:11:11Old of clueless as if I'm so excited if totally Oh no you're
- 1:11:20ready. Yay!
- 1:11:22We're finally Watson clueless. This is such a staple of
- 1:11:25costume. Designing there is no way.
- 1:11:27We can talk about clueless and our first season of the podcast.
- 1:11:30I know it really is shockingly. I've never seen it before.
- 1:11:35Okay, come on, man. I don't know if there's like a
- 1:11:38bunch of movies that I just somehow missed growing.
- 1:11:41And this is one of them. Okay.
- 1:11:43Well, I've seen clueless 2 million times.
- 1:11:46So, I'm excited to watch this with you.
- 1:11:48It's gonna be so much fun. I'm totally buggin right now,
- 1:11:52I'm excited. I hope you all are excited.
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