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The secret Democrat election autopsy report was leaked to media outlets...guest host Jeff Stein has a few ideas of why it came out at this point in the 2026 election cycle. · ToddCast Podcast with Todd Starnes

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  Speaker 2: and again your calls in and around it all. At
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  Speaker 2: nine oh one two six h five nine two six yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: CNN published a report indicating that they had been leaked
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  Speaker 2: this twenty twenty four Democrat election autopsy report. Now, this
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  Speaker 2: has been something that's been talked about in the twenty
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  Speaker 2: four hours or so since CNN broke the news, and
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  Speaker 2: then the DNC. The Democrats were forced to release an
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  Speaker 2: official version with some of their notes in the margin.
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  Speaker 2: So you've heard a bit about this already, but I'm
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  Speaker 2: finding it fascinating why the thing was looked at this time.
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  Speaker 2: So first, let's establish that the document somebody on the
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  Speaker 2: inside of the DNC. Somebody who had this draft of
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  Speaker 2: this autopsy, this post mortem, this How did we screw
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  Speaker 2: it up so badly? In twenty twenty four report, somebody
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  Speaker 2: on the inside with a copy of this released it
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  Speaker 2: to CNN. Leaked it to CNN. Why did they do that?
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  Speaker 2: And of course it then forced the DNC to release
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  Speaker 2: the whole one hundred ninety two page draft document with
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  Speaker 2: some thought notes. Now, this could have been orchestrated by
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  Speaker 2: the DNC. In other words, the leak was targeted to
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  Speaker 2: a friendly news outlet CNN, Chicken Noodle News. It was
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  Speaker 2: could very well have been orchestrated in that way. But why,
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  Speaker 2: why now? Why at this time? I have a few thoughts,
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  Speaker 2: and I'd be interested to hear yours as well. Nine
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  Speaker 2: oh one two six oh five, nine two six. The
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  Speaker 2: report does no favors to Kamala Harris. The report suggests
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  Speaker 2: that the Biden White House did not properly prepare her
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  Speaker 2: for the eventuality of a national campaign to be Biden's successor.
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  Speaker 2: I find that conclusion to be interesting because it ignores
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  Speaker 2: a few aspect history. First of all, Tom Harris was
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  Speaker 2: a United States Senator from California and ran for president
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  Speaker 2: herself in the twenty twenty campaign. Now, granted, she did
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  Speaker 2: such an abysmal job in terms of wasting campaign money,
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  Speaker 2: in terms of not connecting with people on a one
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  Speaker 2: to one basis, she pulled out of the race before
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  Speaker 2: the calendar year twenty twenty had even begun. She and
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  Speaker 2: people like Corey Booker pulled out before the Iowa caucus
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  Speaker 2: says because they said they would have to be in
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  Speaker 2: the Senate for the Trump impeachment trial. Because of course
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  Speaker 2: senators serve as jurors in that situation. It was a
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  Speaker 2: convenient way for them to avoid being embarrassed with a
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  Speaker 2: very low level of support in the Iowa caucases and
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  Speaker 2: then the New Hampshire primary. But Kamala Harris has a
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  Speaker 2: record as a candidate. It was no surprise to anyone.
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  Speaker 2: She put the stiff arm in Biden's face during that
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  Speaker 2: one debate with a story that was not quite true
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  Speaker 2: about being the girl waiting for the school bus, etc.
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  Speaker 2: But she had no people's skills in connecting with voters.
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  Speaker 2: She had no management skills. That's why the campaign hemorrhaged
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  Speaker 2: money despite all of the wonderful media that she got about.
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  Speaker 2: This is the future. She failed, flat out fail. It
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  Speaker 2: is not too much of a stretch to suggest that
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  Speaker 2: her ascension to the vice presidential spot on the ticket
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  Speaker 2: was part of the Biden dei higher effort. You see
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  Speaker 2: it now in the Supreme Court, and oh, why isn't
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  Speaker 2: that going well? So the fact that the White House
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  Speaker 2: did not properly prepare her well, first of all, the
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  Speaker 2: head to know going in.
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  Speaker 3: What they had. Maybe they tried.
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  Speaker 2: There's the suggestion in this post mortem report that she
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  Speaker 2: wasn't given the opportunity to do things that would then
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  Speaker 2: elevate her standing. I seem to recall an awful lot
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  Speaker 2: of the time in the Biden Harris administration when Joe
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  Speaker 2: didn't know what to do with something, he put her
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  Speaker 2: in charge of it. She was the Borders are As.
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  Speaker 2: You'll recall a name that they did not resist using
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  Speaker 2: at the beginning, and then ran away from it when
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  Speaker 2: it went so horribly mad. She was put in charge
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  Speaker 2: of various things, none of which did very well. If,
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  Speaker 2: in fact, she was not ready to run for president,
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  Speaker 2: what makes us think she was ready to be president?
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  Speaker 2: And if you're the vice president, your heart beat away,
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  Speaker 2: especially when the guy in the job is North of
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  Speaker 2: eighty years of age. And I say that as someone
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  Speaker 2: who's getting to that point himself. The fact of the
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  Speaker 2: matter is the older the person in the top job,
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  Speaker 2: the better the likelihood that the number two is going
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  Speaker 2: to be forced to step in. So they did nothing
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  Speaker 2: to get her ready to be president. She was such
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  Speaker 2: a horrible candidate. Did they not even have her ready
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  Speaker 2: for the eventuality of the job? Trust that, by the way,
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  Speaker 2: with the Trump two point zero administration, Donald Trump is
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  Speaker 2: in his upper seventies, but you wouldn't know it. He's
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  Speaker 2: got the energy of three people, much less somebody of
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  Speaker 2: the Biden age. You put the two of them next
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  Speaker 2: to one another, it was very clear who's got the
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  Speaker 2: staying power. But unfortunately, because the left seems to think
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  Speaker 2: it's okay to criticize and demonize anything associated with Trump,
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  Speaker 2: there have now been not one, not two, but three
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  Speaker 2: attempts on his life. So while he is healthy as
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  Speaker 2: opposed to Biden, there are nefarious forces. That all being said,
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  Speaker 2: Donald Trump has left a letter for JD. Vance in
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  Speaker 2: the Resolute desk. This came out, of course, during the
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  Speaker 2: China trip. Trump has left a letter in the desk
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  Speaker 2: for Vance. Should it and we pray it never is needed.
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  Speaker 2: But should it be needed, that's how you prepare people.
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  Speaker 2: You confront the situation and address it. So they say
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  Speaker 2: she wasn't ready and the White House didn't get her ready.
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  Speaker 2: If that's the case, do you suppose that this report
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  Speaker 2: was leaked now? Because Kannalla seems to be showing up
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  Speaker 2: an awful lot. There was that abysmal book launch, but
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  Speaker 2: now she's showing up all over the place. If you
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  Speaker 2: sample the left wing news outlets, you'll see that she
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  Speaker 2: is well in demand as a public speaker on the
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  Speaker 2: stage with the microphone, ripping off profanity and laughing about it.
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  Speaker 2: So are they trying to blunt any Harris in twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty eight talk? In other words, they all know on
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  Speaker 2: the inside how bad it was. And so let's get
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  Speaker 2: this report out there that blames the Biden Whitehouse. But
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  Speaker 2: yet it makes it very clear that she is flawed.
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  Speaker 2: Do we get that out there? Is that One of
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  Speaker 2: the reasons the DNC chair Ken Martin made a big
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  Speaker 2: deal about getting this report and then said, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think I want to release it. It's going to get
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  Speaker 2: in the way of the midterm election. And we did
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  Speaker 2: so well as Democrats in the general elections of twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty five. We don't want anything to get in the
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  Speaker 2: way of twenty twenty six. Well, we find out that
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  Speaker 2: the report is a half hearted effort at best and
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  Speaker 2: makes no conclusion. In other words, it's a draft that's
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  Speaker 2: not finished, but they rush it out. There is the
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  Speaker 2: leak because there are some who don't think Ken Martin
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  Speaker 2: is an effective DNA see chair that they're really trying
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  Speaker 2: to get him out. Well, good luck, because who wants
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  Speaker 2: the job. Politico is reporting and by the way, Politico
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  Speaker 2: is not necessarily friendly to Donald Trump. That's a I
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  Speaker 2: think that's a charitable way to phrase it. Politico is
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  Speaker 2: reporting that now that this draft report has come out,
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  Speaker 2: which appears to be pretty shaky in terms of preparation,
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  Speaker 2: in terms of what the lack of conclusions, etc. It's
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  Speaker 2: not a help to Democrats. In other words, there are
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people saying, Okay, somebody's got to take
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  Speaker 2: charge of the DNC because we don't have messaging, we
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  Speaker 2: don't have candidates, we don't have anything. This is an
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  Speaker 2: opportunity we need to make some changes. Nobody wants the job.
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  Speaker 2: Witness Politico's reporting, there was a buzz out there yesterday
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  Speaker 2: that maybe they need a new head of the Democratic
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  Speaker 2: National Committee. Well, let's look to former Montana US Senator
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  Speaker 2: John Tester. He's playing spoken that'll speak well to the
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  Speaker 2: middle of the country. He can raise money. Sure, let's
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  Speaker 2: go for Tester. So Politico playbook called Tester and they
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  Speaker 2: quote him as saying when they ask the question, get
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  Speaker 2: the h out of here, he tells them and then says,
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  Speaker 2: are you on the illegal substances?
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  Speaker 4: Now?
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  Speaker 2: Again, could have been a fair question. But the bottom
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  Speaker 2: line is when John Tester is asked, would you like
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  Speaker 2: to be the head of the DNC, what do you
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  Speaker 2: think of these rumors, He's like, get off my phone.
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  Speaker 2: You people are high. It shows just how disorganized the
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  Speaker 2: Democrats continue to be. Now, don't get over confident come November.
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  Speaker 2: There's some issues on the other side of the spectrum
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  Speaker 2: as well. But this report being leaked and being as
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  Speaker 2: poor as it is, and all of the buzz about
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  Speaker 2: it going into a long holiday weekend, it seems to
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  Speaker 2: be very purposeful by people who have an agenda. I'd
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  Speaker 2: love to hear your thoughts on it. Call us nine
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  Speaker 2: open line Friday, nine oh one two six oh five,
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  Speaker 2: to coast conversation. We've been talking so far today about
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  Speaker 2: this Democratic National Committee election autopsy report that was leaked
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  Speaker 2: to CNN yesterday and then the draft was released by
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  Speaker 2: the DNC. They were shamed into doing it. Put a
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  Speaker 2: few notes on there for disclaimers, et cetera. I suggested
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  Speaker 2: in the last segment that it might have been leaked
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  Speaker 2: at this time. Perhaps there are some at the DNC
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  Speaker 2: not thrilled with how Ken Martin is handling things. Certainly
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  Speaker 2: not thrilled with how they handled this issue. It may
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  Speaker 2: also be because Kamala Harris has been resurfacing and they
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  Speaker 2: want to remind everyone what a mess she was and
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  Speaker 2: trying to blunt her attempt to get back in the
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  Speaker 2: national conversation. But what's really interesting about the whole thing
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  Speaker 2: is that very little in the report. Now again, the
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  Speaker 2: report is supposed to tell Democrats why they failed so
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  Speaker 2: miserably in November of twenty twenty four, but very little
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  Speaker 2: in the report touches on a critique of policy. Instead,
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  Speaker 2: it talks about messaging. They did not have effective enough
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  Speaker 2: television ads, their social media was not as robust. They
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  Speaker 2: did not have the candidate in the proper venue forgetting
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  Speaker 2: her message across. Again, it's all messaging. It has nothing
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  Speaker 2: to do with the fact that their policies were so
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  Speaker 2: out of step with America that Donald Trump swept the
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  Speaker 2: Swing States. They are talking about fixing how to communicate,
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  Speaker 2: as opposed to saying maybe we communicate just fine, they
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  Speaker 2: just don't like what we have to say. In other words,
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  Speaker 2: there are issues that Americans find to be important and
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  Speaker 2: they don't square with what the Democrats are advocating. Now
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  Speaker 2: some of the analysis in this report, and I'm only
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  Speaker 2: going to talk about it a couple of more minutes,
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  Speaker 2: and then we'll move on some of the parts of
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  Speaker 2: the report talk about, Hey, we should not focus on
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  Speaker 2: abstract issues. We need to talk about issues that citizens
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  Speaker 2: find important. Gosha think this is a quote from the
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  Speaker 2: voters have come to believe they are not included in
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  Speaker 2: the party's larger vision, quoting again, millions of Americans are suffering,
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  Speaker 2: yet continue to be persuaded to vote against their best
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  Speaker 2: interests because they do not see themselves reflected in the
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  Speaker 2: America of the Democratic Party.
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  Speaker 3: Unquote.
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  Speaker 2: Now you may know Democrats, they may be friends and
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  Speaker 2: family members. But here's what I'll tell you about what
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  Speaker 2: I see on the TV box. When I see a
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  Speaker 2: group of folks in the left side of the spectrum protesting,
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  Speaker 2: it's a freak show. People. I mean, these are people
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  Speaker 2: I don't see on the streets every day. They can't
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  Speaker 2: all be busted in from one central casting house across
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  Speaker 2: the country for these things. But this doesn't look like me.
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  Speaker 2: You'll look at a group of Democrats protesting, they are
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  Speaker 2: at the far end of the spectrum. Of course, folks
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  Speaker 2: see that and say, I don't really think I want
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  Speaker 2: to be a part of that. It is a clown
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  Speaker 2: car and the policies that they appear to want to
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  Speaker 2: go to the mat to support. It's the absolute opposite
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  Speaker 2: of what the country was built upon, and it's the
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  Speaker 2: opposite of what we know to be common sense. So again, Democrats,
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  Speaker 2: if you want to focus on messaging as your problem,
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  Speaker 2: go ahead. The problems, your issues. But if you want
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: to focus on messaging, you go do that. Dennis Neil
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  Speaker 2: Stein in for Todd. Thanks for being along on the
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  Speaker 5: voters just keep voting in the same people over and
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  Speaker 5: over again, and I figured it was time for an
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: outsider I've lived, I've lived in Brookly for forty plus
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: years to come in there and tell them, Hey, you
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: guys are heading the wrong direction. You're in trouble. Molly,
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: you're in danger girl, as the Woopie Goldberg's sad in
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: the movie Ghosts.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Well, is anybody listening? I mean, are the the people
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: in Oregon.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, Jeff, you know, the great HarperCollins, one of
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: the world's biggest publishers. Fantastic job on my elon book.
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: But it's nine months to get that thing out the
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: door after I turned in the manuscript on two weeks
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: and it's already hit number one in three different categories,
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: and it's rising with a bullet and four others. So
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: I'm I'm real proud of it. It's a fact face fat,
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: you know, stat based argument for liberal policies that have
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: just gone way too far. Jeff, this is a state
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: in trouble, as beautiful as it is in you know,
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: and graced with amazing natural resources. It's got thousands of
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: people and jobs leaving. It's got timber companies. It's one
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: of the biggest you know, timber lands in the world. Really,
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: but it's got its own timber companies investing hundreds of
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: millions of dollars in North Carolina, where the rules are
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: less strang strangling of the ability to log I mean,
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: it spends over seven hundred million a year in the
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: Portland metro area on homeless and yet their ranks went
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: up sixty four percent in two years by an official account.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: It's just craziness and there's no accountability. You know, the
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: spending at the state, local and counting level is going
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: up more than double in ten years, but their employees
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: have gone up only eight to fifteen percent. How does
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: that happen. It's because they're handing money hand over fifth
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: to NGOs that have no accountability and no real way
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: of checking to make sure they're spending the money in
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: a good way.
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Are people voting with their feet in other words, they
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: could stay and fight and run for office, et cetera.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Or are there significant blocks of people who say, Okay,
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: you folks are crazy. I'm getting out of here.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: Also, my whole book is about and it's why it's
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: called or Honors, because so many people are leaving that
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: place behind, and I profile some of them. I profile
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: others who cannot leave. They would if they could. But
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: then since the book came out, I've talked to a
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: couple of those people who were trapped there who now
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: give it up and they're moving anyway. The owner of
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: the Vinyl Resting pl Steve Cook, that was once an
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: answer in a Jeopardy Show about its selling albums. What
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: is an album? Well, he can't move right, He's got
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: thousands of records in that story. He's got twenty thirty
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: years there, and yet I talked to him the other day.
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: He's leaving. He's moving out. Then Charles Frolic, owner of
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: the Frolic Art Gallery in downtown Portland, thirty years he's there,
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: major fundraiser for age and for gay groups, and yet
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: the liberal community he was part of turned on him
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: during COVID when he raised question about what are you
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: asking for a vax id for? And they just devastated him. Well,
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: he's now leaving, and so you've got Intel cutting back
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: and going elsewhere. You've got the famous Dutch Brothers, coffee
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: maker of Sweet high energy drinks, founded in Grant's past, Oregon,
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: insisted it would never move, moved ten quarters to Arizona
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: to be closer to the higher growth markets.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Ora Ganner's now one state chased away businesses and people.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: It's the brand new book by our guest Dennis Neil.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: You get it through Amazon, hardcover, paperback, kindle.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: It's probably in chalk on a rock. You could probably
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: buy it there. You get everything else at Amazon, But
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Org Donner's is the new book and mister Neil joins
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: us on the Patriot Mobile newsmaker line. As I recall
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: when we were talking on the radio, as you were
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: putting this together, this is not only a properly sourced
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: and reported journalistic tale of what went wrong there, it's
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: also a cautionary tale for anybody else willing to listen.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Is it not?
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: It's sure is And voters had a big message to
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: send the Democrats. The Democrat Party has lost its way.
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: It's gone way too liberal, it's gone way too WoT
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: when people care about the nothing bold's issues of high
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: taxes and bad service for those high taxes. And this
• 26:59
  Speaker 5: has happened in blue states everywhere that divide between this
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: urban blue center in a red rural area.
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: You're seeing it in Washington State, in California and Colorado.
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: And they've just gone so liberal that they no longer
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: look at the actual outcomes. Here, they spend twenty thousand
• 27:16
  Speaker 6: dollars a year per student. That's in the top one
• 27:19
  Speaker 6: third of states in Oregon, and yet they're fourth Graders'
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: mas is ranked forty eighth in the nation. They're reading
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: ranks forty sixth in the nation. Well are they getting
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: for that money? And you know in Portland they have
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: nineteen ninety three levels of cops, cop employment only eight hundred,
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: and yet you know, it takes them nineteen minutes to
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: respond to a violent nine to one one call. And
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: so they're just getting really bad service for this. And
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: we see this in other blue areas, right. You know.
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: The thing is New York, where I live for forty plus.
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: Here's so big, so diverse, that it takes a longer
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: time for the effects of bad policies to show up,
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: and they don't show up maybe sharply. But Oregon is
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: so small, four point two million people, two point two
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: million of them in that Portland urban area up there
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: in the top left corner of the state. It's so
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: small that the bad effects of those policies show up sooner,
• 28:17
  Speaker 6: and they show up in sharper relief. And so that
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: is why Oregon as a canary in the coal mine
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: for blue states everywhere else.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: How quickly will it take for things to turn around?
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Should voters vote people into office who have that is
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: their agenda as opposed to what's been happening here.
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: It's a great timing and a great question there, Jeff,
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: Because on Tuesday came the Oregon primary and voters eighty
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: three percent of them voted to get rid of the
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: four point two billion dollars ten year tax increased for
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: the Transportation Department, pushed through by Democrat Governor Tina Kotek,
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: and eighty three percent, resounding defeat of one of her
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: premier efforts. She called an emergency session of legislature to
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: get that through because she said, this is an emergenci
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: Oh my gosh, we have to have this money. It
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: was just a gift to the government worker union, and
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: now voters have rejected it as more than just Republicans,
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: and she is vulnerable in the coming governor election. Christine Drazen,
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: the Republican ran against her in twenty twenty two, lost
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: finally three and a half percentage points to Tina Kotec,
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: and now they're going to be faced off in a rematch,
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: and Christine's stronged at this time around, and it could
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: be that Oregon voter may elect their first Republican governor
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: since nineteen eighty two, and that would send a star
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: scary message to Democrat parties in all of the other
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: blue states that guys. If one of the most liberal
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: states in the country, Oregon can end up electing the
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: first Republican governor over forty years. Your party is in trouble,
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: and you better fix it by swinging back to the middle.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Or a Gonner's How One State Chased Away businesses and people,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: the brand new book. The author is Dennis Neil. Get
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: it at Amazon in whatever format you like. I've only
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: got sixty seconds, and I'm going to shift topics if
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: you'd be so kind. We now have a new Chair
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: of the Federal Reserves worn in today at a White
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: House ceremony that hasn't happened since Alan Greenspan's time. Give
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: us your sense on the change at the FED and
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: what that might mean to folks listening.
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: It's going to be slow and steady and patient rather
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: than quick. He is only one vote on the I
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: think is it twelve member or seventeen member panel that
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: comes up with the interest rate policy, so he has
• 30:42
  Speaker 6: to work. He can't go in and just be a
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: Trump shill. Also, we just had a three point eight
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: percent inflation number, two point eight percent without food and fuel,
• 30:51
  Speaker 6: and that's too high for the Fed to be able
• 30:54
  Speaker 6: to come in and cut race, which is what Trump
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: wants them to do. So it's going to be a while.
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: The pace will be slower, but the econ is growing
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: with our inflation. I think inflation is going to be
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: a temporary problem. They've said that before, but this time
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: is true.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Dennis Neil's new book is called Ora Goners. It not
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: only tells you how things got all messed up out there,
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: but it's a cautionary tale for other states so that
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: they don't fall in line the same way. Dennis Neil,
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: thank you so much. Have a safe Memorial Day weekend.
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Appreciate your time today, You.
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: Too, have a glorious weekend, sir, I appreciate your time
• 31:30
  Speaker 6: so much.
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: Anytime, the Great Dennis Neil, our guest Patriot Mobile Newsmaker
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: line is how we made the connection with mister Neil
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: from his new home base after years away in New
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: York at his home state of Florida. Nine oh one
• 31:45
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• 31:48
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• 31:51
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• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Memorial Day twenty twenty six is upon us. Our guest return.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Guest on this program is Craig Surely. He is the
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: historian and author in two of his books, We're Tied
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: to the World War II Era December nineteen forty one
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: and April nineteen forty five the titles, and we'll talk
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: with Craig Shirley about the impact of Memorial Day on
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: society today, and we'll do that in just about t
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: ten minutes time. Another return guest to the Star and Show,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Brad Brandon of Across Nigeria, comes up next hour as well.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: Now we're going to finish this hour out and most
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: of the stations you're listening to will air network and
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: local news and weather at the top of the hour.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: And this is the last day for one of the
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: venerable radio networks, CBS Radio Network, the CBS Radio News,
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: the well known World News Roundup, the place where Edward R.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Murrow and so many others broadcast from World War Two,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: all of that going away after ninety nine years. This
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: is the last day, and you can say, well, good riddance,
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: because it's been nothing but a liberal outfit for a
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: long time. A couple of things I'd say in response.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: The first is that the television side and the radio
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: side it all said CBS. But there was not a
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: ton of overlap in terms of personnel or in terms
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: of approach. So the CBS Radio News product was not
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: as off in the ditch as CBS television has been.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: That said, it still was not some people's cup of tea.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: But many of the folks who carry this program have
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: had CBS Radio News and they found that it provides
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: a good service. I'm never a fan when voices are silenced,
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: and it is allowing some new voices, some new networks
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: to be created. It's causing quite a jumble in the
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: radio industry because the news hit pretty much out of
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: the blue a few months ago. But this is the
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: final day for the CBS Radio network, and again, fewer
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: voices is not a good thing in the marketplace of ideas.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: So as CBS Radio News goes away today, CBS Television
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: did farewell to The Late Show with Stephen Colbert last night.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: I stopped watching basically after the first week. I grew
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: up here in the state of Iowa. I had a
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: great affinity for Johnny Carson as a native Iowan, and
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: I said this on this program before, but it bears
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: repeating in light of all of the pearl clutching about
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: the Colbert Show being canceled. Johnny Carson at his average,
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: the average number of people watching was something like four
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: times as many as the current three shows combined. I'll
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: say that again. Carson drew in four to five, four
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: to five times more people then the three, the Steve
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: and the two Jimmy's combined. Now you could say, well,
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: there are three of them, they split the audience. Yeah,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: well in the anger get still Carson all the way.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: You could say, well, there are a lot of different
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: options out there today. You don't understand, Well, yeah, I understand. Fine,
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: we have a lot more people out there too, But
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: what was the difference. You didn't know Johnny's political views,
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: and it was successful. Something for comedians to consider. One
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: hour down, two more Togo. Jeff's dined in for Todd.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for it being along on The Todd starn.
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  Speaker 4: Show, Live from the Liberty University Studio in Memphis, Tennessee.
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  Speaker 1: It's America's conservative blowtorch.
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  Speaker 2: Wherever you're listening across this the greatest nation God ever blessed.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to hour two of an open line Friday edition
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  Speaker 2: of The Todd Starn Show. Hello, fellow Patriots. Jeff Stein
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: filling in for Todd today, Nothing wrong. Scheduled day off
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: for mister Starns gives me a chance to connect with
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: you coast to coast from the Liberty University Studio nine
• 39:28
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• 39:31
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• 39:34
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• 39:37
  Speaker 2: to go right to the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker line and
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: welcome a return guest. He is the noted author historian
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Craig Shirley. Mister Shirley is the author of a couple
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: of books that should draw your attention as we look
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: toward Memorial Day, December nineteen forty one, thirty one Days
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  Speaker 2: That Changed America and Saved the World and April nineteen
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: forty five, The Hinge of History. Craig Shirley, thanks so
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: much for taking the time, sir, How are you?
• 40:06
  Speaker 8: Oh, thank you, thank You's such a pleasure to be
• 40:09
  Speaker 8: with you again.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: It is always an enlightening conversation when you're able to
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: join us on the Patriot Mobile Newsmaker line. And as
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: we look toward Memorial Day, I get a sense that
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: a lot of people are excited about a three day
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: weekend in the start of summer and all of these things.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Do you think we truly take enough time to appreciate
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: the reason we have the day off from work?
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  Speaker 9: Yeah?
• 40:35
  Speaker 8: I frankly, I don't think we ever take enough time
• 40:38
  Speaker 8: to appreciate the sacrifice so many men and who have
• 40:42
  Speaker 8: made over the last two hundred and fifty years. If
• 40:46
  Speaker 8: I had my way, you know, there'd be commemorations. It'd
• 40:49
  Speaker 8: be more than just Sets Day and Memorial.
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: Day, you know.
• 40:53
  Speaker 8: And I say that not just as in the story,
• 40:57
  Speaker 8: but also as an American citizen I had. You know,
• 41:00
  Speaker 8: my father and the two brothers were all in the
• 41:03
  Speaker 8: military during World War Two. My uncle was shot down
• 41:06
  Speaker 8: and killed the Pacific.
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 41:08
  Speaker 8: And that that you know that his death rippled through
• 41:11
  Speaker 8: the family and still continue to ripple through the family.
• 41:14
  Speaker 8: So it's not something to be taken likely. It's something
• 41:17
  Speaker 8: to be really honored and remembered. And I would like
• 41:20
  Speaker 8: to I would like I would, frankly hope more Americans
• 41:23
  Speaker 8: would would honor the sacrifice. You know, as the Bible says,
• 41:26
  Speaker 8: no greater love had the man than the later's life
• 41:30
  Speaker 8: or another. Well, that's what these that's what these patriots did,
• 41:33
  Speaker 8: beginning with this the shot heard around the world.
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  Speaker 2: I like to say that if you're sitting down at
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: a Memorial Day cookout or something of that nature, you're
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: only able to do that because somebody died, and they
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: died so that you could enjoy the freedoms that that
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: they were off protecting. And uh again that that sounds
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: like a downer. But if we can't take at least
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: a couple of days a year to honor of those
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: who wore the uniform, we don't deserve it.
• 42:04
  Speaker 8: I couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more. This is
• 42:06
  Speaker 8: that that this should be the first thought. Well, it
• 42:10
  Speaker 8: should be his first first thoughts, and every race had
• 42:13
  Speaker 8: many times during the year, not just on Memorial Day,
• 42:16
  Speaker 8: but especially on Memorial Day because it does honor every
• 42:22
  Speaker 8: man and woman who laid down their lives be originally
• 42:27
  Speaker 8: beginning with the Civil War, but then extended to include
• 42:31
  Speaker 8: all of all American vestors, not just Civil War veterans.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: We've talked previously on this and other radio programs about
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: your books December nineteen forty one in April nineteen forty five.
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: What attracted you to those topics or that period of history.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Many people know you as a Reagan biographer, and you
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: have the forthcoming book I'm mister Trump, that will spend
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: a little time talking about. But what attracted you to
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: the World War two? Air as an author.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, I love this question.
• 43:03
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 43:04
  Speaker 8: You know, every Sunday after church, our family would gather
• 43:10
  Speaker 8: at my grandmother's house for you know, a big roast
• 43:14
  Speaker 8: turkey or big big ham or something.
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 43:17
  Speaker 8: And around there was lace table cloths and Lena napkins,
• 43:21
  Speaker 8: and around the table where aunts and uncles and parents
• 43:24
  Speaker 8: and grandparents. And then to sit at this little child
• 43:27
  Speaker 8: just mesimized by the conversation because in everly it turned
• 43:31
  Speaker 8: towards the war, as in, uh, my grandfather might say, well,
• 43:35
  Speaker 8: I bought that desoda before the war, but I didn't.
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: Sell until after the war.
• 43:40
  Speaker 8: And they would talk about gas rationing, and they talk about, uh,
• 43:44
  Speaker 8: mixing olio with you know, mixing the guy with olio
• 43:48
  Speaker 8: to make it more look more appealing, and they talk
• 43:50
  Speaker 8: about blackouts, and they talk about brown house. And that
• 43:53
  Speaker 8: I all three of all two of my history. Two
• 43:56
  Speaker 8: of my grandmothers, they were both rosies and risters. One
• 44:00
  Speaker 8: under his tested machine guns and the other was a
• 44:02
  Speaker 8: bomb inspector. And I never got a really chance to
• 44:05
  Speaker 8: ask my grandma what a bomb inspector did, but she
• 44:08
  Speaker 8: was a Rosy the riveter.
• 44:10
  Speaker 6: So but the.
• 44:11
  Speaker 8: Shirley family was not unique. Is that is that in
• 44:15
  Speaker 8: the World War Two, every family in America committed their
• 44:19
  Speaker 8: ultimately committed to their resource, and they grew victory gardens,
• 44:22
  Speaker 8: and they did scrap drives, and they did rubber drives,
• 44:25
  Speaker 8: and they had paper drives and metal drives. Uh, and
• 44:28
  Speaker 8: everybody contributed to the war effort. It was truly one
• 44:32
  Speaker 8: of the few times in America we've been we've we've
• 44:35
  Speaker 8: been absolutely united. Uh when that and uh and then
• 44:40
  Speaker 8: the months after after September eleventh, But those are really
• 44:44
  Speaker 8: the only two times where America has really been united.
• 44:48
  Speaker 8: But I think, you know, I'd like to think that
• 44:50
  Speaker 8: now we I mean, at least we united, and our
• 44:53
  Speaker 8: appreciation and our thanks for those men and women who
• 44:56
  Speaker 8: are made ultim the sacrifice it makes.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Let me wonder, if Heaven forbid, we were involved in
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: a conflict of the scope of World War two, if
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: the citizenry, because we're spoiled these days, let's face it,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, would citizenry respond in the way necessary for
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: the United States to prevail. That's a scary prospect.
• 45:21
  Speaker 8: I think we have our lesson after September eleven. You know,
• 45:25
  Speaker 8: it is that not they sure have unified this country
• 45:27
  Speaker 8: more than the terrorist attacks of September eleventh, and yet
• 45:31
  Speaker 8: within months we fell into fighting among ourselves about union contracts,
• 45:35
  Speaker 8: about other things. You know. Partially I had blamed.
• 45:39
  Speaker 5: That on the political leadership.
• 45:41
  Speaker 8: Is that you know, George Bush was a good man.
• 45:46
  Speaker 8: I worked for him, we were friends. But I always
• 45:50
  Speaker 8: thought it was a mistake, you know. And in the
• 45:53
  Speaker 8: month after September eleventh, is it called the American people
• 45:56
  Speaker 8: to make sact plices, to give blood or to write
• 45:59
  Speaker 8: letters that gis overseas or you know, to make sometimes
• 46:04
  Speaker 8: the sacrifice to win the war organ terrorism. He told
• 46:07
  Speaker 8: the American people go shopping. And that's not really uh an
• 46:11
  Speaker 8: inspiring message uh for national unity. So we got I
• 46:17
  Speaker 8: think it was Unfortunately, you know, it depends on the leadership.
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: It really depends on leadership.
• 46:21
  Speaker 8: If we had if we had Ronald Reagan as president today,
• 46:25
  Speaker 8: there was a national Uh, there was international crisis like
• 46:30
  Speaker 8: not to Germany, you know, declaring war on Poland and
• 46:34
  Speaker 8: and starting in the World War three.
• 46:37
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 46:38
  Speaker 8: You know, we have a strong political leadership, I think
• 46:41
  Speaker 8: the American people might answer the call. But but but
• 46:45
  Speaker 8: but it does.
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: Come down to leadership.
• 46:47
  Speaker 10: Uh.
• 46:47
  Speaker 8: And so you know what we had. Yeah, Fortunately we
• 46:50
  Speaker 8: had FDR, you know, World War Two, who led the
• 46:52
  Speaker 8: American people. I mean, you know, as many criticisms I
• 46:57
  Speaker 8: have today of the great da I cannot criticize FDR
• 47:01
  Speaker 8: for World War Two first conduct Winston Churchill and Franklin
• 47:08
  Speaker 8: Morosevelk virtually saved the world from discourage of Nazism and
• 47:14
  Speaker 8: Japanese fascism.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Depending on the source you cite, it's around four hundred
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: and fifteen four hundred and seventeen thousand Americans died in
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: the World War II conflict. More than four hundred thousand
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: Americans died. They are to be honored every day, but
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: certainly on Memorial Day. Craig Shirley is our guest for
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: a few more minutes here on the Patriot Mobile. Newsmaker line,
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: Do Americans realize how close we came to not winning
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: World War Two? I mean, for some of us, we
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: hear about it's a great victory, etc. And we just
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: assume that it's preordained.
• 47:56
  Speaker 8: Yeah, most Americans don't even know where Pearl Harbor is.
• 48:00
  Speaker 8: Uh is that we don't study history the way we
• 48:03
  Speaker 8: used to the way you and I did growing up.
• 48:06
  Speaker 8: Is that they don't teach in public schools anymore. So
• 48:10
  Speaker 8: the idea that to teach how close we came to
• 48:14
  Speaker 8: losing World War Two, it's not even a concept that's
• 48:18
  Speaker 8: even understood by post wool teachers. It's just understood by
• 48:22
  Speaker 8: those people who who you know, like American history, who
• 48:27
  Speaker 8: keep will self teach, who self teach themselves about American history,
• 48:32
  Speaker 8: but not that are there. They take a college course
• 48:35
  Speaker 8: in World War Two, hopefully not from a ultra Lepsius professor,
• 48:39
  Speaker 8: and they're learning the truth about the World War Two.
• 48:41
  Speaker 8: They learned the truth about the sacrifice that was made
• 48:44
  Speaker 8: in this country, about the about the how many people,
• 48:48
  Speaker 8: how many Americans died in that war, how many how
• 48:51
  Speaker 8: many Canadians died in that war, how many British soldiers
• 48:55
  Speaker 8: died in that war, how many French soldiers died in
• 48:58
  Speaker 8: that war. Don't learn any of that anymore. And that's
• 49:02
  Speaker 8: really that is a real tragedy. And in that vacuum,
• 49:06
  Speaker 8: in that vacuum of history, uh, is that you get presentism,
• 49:11
  Speaker 8: which is the fallacy of applying standards of today to
• 49:14
  Speaker 8: the morys and behavior of people fifty years ago, one
• 49:19
  Speaker 8: hundred years ago, or two hundred years ago. Is that
• 49:21
  Speaker 8: it's not fair to pass judgment on on George Washington's mother,
• 49:26
  Speaker 8: Mary for having plays because in that in that it
• 49:30
  Speaker 8: was part of the culture, It was part of the
• 49:31
  Speaker 8: system many people own, not to everybody, many people own slaves,
• 49:35
  Speaker 8: And to make a.
• 49:36
  Speaker 6: Moral judgment on her is unfair.
• 49:39
  Speaker 8: Or to make a moral judgment on on on FDR
• 49:44
  Speaker 8: about Pearl Harbor is unfair. But you somehow knew about it.
• 49:47
  Speaker 8: He didn't know about it, I resuggest to a fairly
• 49:49
  Speaker 8: well he did not know about it. There was there
• 49:54
  Speaker 8: was plenty of war warnings. We knew war was coming.
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: We believed that.
• 49:59
  Speaker 8: Japson's money taxic attacked at Panama Canal, the West coast
• 50:03
  Speaker 8: of the United States, the Philippines, other regions in the
• 50:09
  Speaker 8: western Central Pacific of Wake Island, but there was no
• 50:15
  Speaker 8: concrete evidence that we actually knew they were going to
• 50:17
  Speaker 8: do it.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: This is the kind of insight you get by reading
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: books by Craig Shirley December nineteen forty one April nineteen
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: forty five that ties to what we've been talking about.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: And of course he's also the biographer of Mary Ball Washington,
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: George Washington's mother, and coming from humanics books, they don't
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: just have a Todd Starns book coming out this July.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: They've got a Craig Shirley book coming out this July
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: called Upheaval, A Clash of Cultures. Craig Shirley, it is
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: always a privilege. Thank you, sir. I hope you and
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: yours have a very safe Memorial Day.
• 50:53
  Speaker 8: Weekend, you too, Thank you so much.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: And mister Shirley joined us on the Patriot Mobile maker line. Yes,
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: the new book by Craig Shirley is called Upheaval, A
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: Clash of Cultures, has to do with the last election,
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: presidential election, and Humanis is publishing that in July. And
• 51:11
  Speaker 2: while you're there ordering that, why don't you order The
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: Golden Age, How Trump Saved America and the Future of Maga.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: Todd Starns the author of The Golden Age. It's released
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: July seventh. Get it now at Amazon or wherever you
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: get your good books. And mister Shirley join us on
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: the Patriot Mobile newsmaker line. We'll continue from the Liberty
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: University studio. In a moment, Jeff Stein in for Todd,
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: and this is the Todd starn Show. Back with you
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: from the Liberty University studio. This is the Todd starn Show.
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: I'm Jeff Stein filling in for Todd today. It's a
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: scheduled day off for mister Starns. Nothing serious, nothing of
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: a negative nature. Just like to keep you all in
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: four because I know you're going to ask. We've got
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: some sad news coming. There's a change in the administration
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: and it's not for any reason that we would ever
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: wish upon anyone. The headline released just a couple of
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: minutes ago, Tulsey Gabbard has resigned as the Director of
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: National Intelligence. She informed the President of this during a
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: meeting today. Her last day at the Office of National
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: Intelligence will be June thirtieth. Her resignation letter indicates that
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: her husband, Abraham, has recently been diagnosed with an extremely
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: rare form of bone cancer. Tulsey Gabbert says her husband
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: faces major challenges in the coming weeks and months, quoting
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: at this time, I must step away from public service
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: to be by his side and fully support him through
• 52:53
  Speaker 2: this battle. And she cited called him her rock through
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: their eleven years of marriage, and that includes her political
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: campaign's deployment to East Africa, etc. So again, the breaking
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: news and it is sad the cause Tulsey Gabbert is
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: resigning as Director of National Intelligence. Her husband has recently
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: been diagnosed with an extremely rare form of bone cancer,
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: and so of course our thoughts and prayers with them.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: And I'm sitting here in my radio studio in Iowa,
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: which means we're the center of the universe every four
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: years for presidential elections, and I'm looking right across this
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: counter and Tulsea Gabbard sat there in the summer of
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, and her husband was the campaign photographer, and
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: so I vividly remember as she and I are talking
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: about the issues of why she was running as a
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: Democrat for president in twenty twenty, here was her husband
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: who was taking photos in all manner of things, working
• 53:59
  Speaker 2: his way around the student. So I'm really sorry to
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: hear that news. But once again the president will be
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: looking for a new Director of National Intelligence, and again
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: for reasons regardless of politics, you just don't want to hear.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Coming up after the bottom of the hour, we'll be
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: speaking with a return guest to the program. He is
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: Brad Brandon of a group called Across Nigeria. And just
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: to show you how multifaceted. The Trump administration is there
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: are some administrations, there are some people who can barely
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: focus on one topic at a time. President Trump got
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: back from China and immediately issued a raid that took
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: down the number two isis commander in Nigeria. It's like
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: they didn't even get the suitcases unpacked and he was
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: moving on because again, they're able to do so many
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: different things. Brad Brandon has been on the ground in
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: Nigeria of late. He may actually be there now. We'll
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: find out just a couple of moments when he joins
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: us again. The CEO of across Nigeria. Brad Brandon talking
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: with us about that topic, and that's coming up in
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: just a few moments. Then just after the top of
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: the next hour, our three of this program will speak
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: with Pete Sepp of the National Taxpayers Union. They are
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: very active as a group. NTU dot org is the website.
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: They're very active as a group looking at governmental policies,
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: things that seem like taxes, even though they aren't called taxes.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: Pete Sepp of the National Taxpayers Union joining us on
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: this program as well. A little more than a half
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: hour from now, and it is open line Friday, and
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: so in and around these guests, we'd love to hear
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: from you. Nine oh one two six oh five nine
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: two six, same number as always. That's how you can
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: act in this coast to coast conversation from the Liberty
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: University Studio. I know one two six zero five nine
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: to six. We're coming upon the Memorial Day holiday, and
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: I say holiday, I hear people say happy Memorial Day.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: That just doesn't make any sense to me, but I
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: understand the sentiment. If you have a chance to get
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: out to your hometown commemoration, whether it's the legion that
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: puts it on, etc. Please do is the least that
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: you can do to show your support. And even if
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: you're just out for a little walk, take a walk
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: through and see all of the flags that are on
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: display honoring those who wore the uniform and made the
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: ultimate sacrifice so that we can live the kind of
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: lives that we do in freedom in this country. It's
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: been my great privilege to tell stories of some war
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: heroes at various Memorial Day commemorations over time, and it
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: is definitely worth your attention, at least for a little
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: bit during the long weekend. We'll talk about Nigeria when
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: we come back. Jeff Stein in for Todd. This is
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: the Todd starn Show.
• 57:51
  Speaker 11: And first I'd like to get your thoughts on what
• 57:52
  Speaker 11: the President just has to say about the Democrat James
• 57:56
  Speaker 11: tallerco calling h him a weird dude.
• 57:58
  Speaker 10: I kind of think he's a dangerous dude.
• 58:01
  Speaker 7: What say you? I totally agree with you, Todd.
• 58:04
  Speaker 9: He is a deceptive guy presenting himself as a Christian
• 58:07
  Speaker 9: pastor and yet very commonly expousing very anti Christian views,
• 58:13
  Speaker 9: from his view on God being non binary, to his
• 58:16
  Speaker 9: focus on Mary and abortion and all his physicians seem
• 58:21
  Speaker 9: to be very anti Biblical. And yet you know, people
• 58:24
  Speaker 9: believe sometimes just as we saw satan U's the Bible
• 58:29
  Speaker 9: against Jesus in the Temptation of Christ, here we have
• 58:32
  Speaker 9: a guy expressing his views on the Bible that are
• 58:35
  Speaker 9: so seemingly anti Christian.
• 58:37
  Speaker 11: Well, I know the President still has not made an
• 58:39
  Speaker 11: endorsement here. I'm wondering how critical is that endorsement. We're
• 58:44
  Speaker 11: just what about eleven days out from the runoff?
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: All right, that was a conversation Todd was having about
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: the Texas race. Well, again, the runoff is Tuesday. We
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: now know that the President has endorsed Ken Paxton and
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: the US Senate race over John Cornyn, Welcome back to
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: the Liberty University Studio. Jeff stein filling in for Todd
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: on this open line Friday, and I want to go
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: to the Patriot Mobile newsmaker line. Return guests to the program.
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: Someone I've talked to on my programs in Iowa before.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: He's Brad Brandon. Mister Brandon is CEO and founder of
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: Across Nigeria. They are online across Nigeria dot org. Pastor Brandon,
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: Jeff Stein in for Todd, Thanks so much for being
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: on the program.
• 59:29
  Speaker 6: How are you, hey, I'm doing well. How are you
• 59:32
  Speaker 6: doing very well?
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: Now? Am I to understand? Are you on the ground
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: in Nigeria still.
• 59:38
  Speaker 6: Or I'm in Northern Nigeria. I'm in the epicenter of
• 59:42
  Speaker 6: the crisis right now, all right now.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: I hope that folks who are listening to this program
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: are somewhat aware of the situation, but I make no presumption,
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: So please tell us across Nigeria, who are you, folks
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: and what do you do well?
• 59:57
  Speaker 6: Right now? Nigeria is the most deadly play to be
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 6: a Christian. So more Christians are killed here in Northern
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 6: Nigeria than anywhere else in the world. In fact, last year,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 6: there were eighty two hundred Christians that were within about
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 6: a three hundred mile radius of where I am right now.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 6: That's seventy two percent of all the Christians killed in
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 6: the entire world. So it's the epicenter of persecution right now.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 6: And what across Nigeria does on the ground. Here in
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 6: Northern Nigeria is we have two things that we focus on.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 6: One helping persecuted Christians, so that means bringing aid. We
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 6: have a refugee facility where we house them and re
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 6: home people who have lost their homes in attacks and
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 6: things like that. We also do extraction missions that take
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 6: people out of dangerous situations they're in where they're being
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 6: hunted and we bring them to one of our safe
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 6: houses or our refugee facility and help them restart their lives.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 6: I was just in a village two weeks ago where
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 6: we showed up one of our widow communities and there
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 6: were fourteen people that were slaughtered and we buried them
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 6: in a mass grave. We left there and went to
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 6: another village where another mass grave we were burying ten people,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 6: and about an hour after we left, there was another
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 6: attack on that same village. That village has suffered about
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 6: five attacks in the last two weeks, by the way,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 6: So it's a dire situation here. It's at a fever pitch,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 6: and we're just here helping persecuted Christians. The other thing
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 6: that we focus on is we believe that the Gospel
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 6: of Jesus Christ is the solution to all of these problems.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 6: Governments can help, institutions can help it. Ultimately, the Gospel
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 6: is the answer. So we focus on bringing the gospel
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 6: to Muslim communities and a lot of times we end
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 6: up bringing the Gospel to a lot of communities who
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 6: are the ones who are doing the persecuting. In fact,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 6: just in the last three months, we've been able to
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 6: lead ten vocal Haram Soul to Christ and they've joined
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 6: our underground churches and are being discipled right now.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: So those are the.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 6: Two main things that we focus on on ground here
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 6: in northern Nigeria.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: Now.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: I think for many people, if they're not aware of
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: the situation, they have a very hard time understanding. And
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: you say the underground churches, I mean the conditions there
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: are such that you risk your life by even attempting
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: to practice your faith. That's something that no matter how
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: bad things are in this country, I don't know how
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: we can fully appreciate the situation. How do you explain
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: it to people so that those who live a good,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: comfortable life in the US understand what's really going on
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: in Nigeria.
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a great question. Well, our underground churches operate
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 6: a lot differently than churches do in the US. First
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  Speaker 6: of all, we can't meet at the same time on
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  Speaker 6: the same day in the same location, so we move around,
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  Speaker 6: We meet a different times, different days, we alternate. Our
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 6: churches really can never meet all together corporately like a
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 6: lot of churches do in the United States. So what
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  Speaker 6: we do is break our churches up in the groups
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 6: of about six to ten people, and then we have
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  Speaker 6: what we call group leaders that are really disciplers and
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 6: they disciple the group. A lot of people in our
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 6: underground churches can't read and write their own language Hausa,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 6: let alone English, so getting them Bibles doesn't really do
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  Speaker 6: any good. So what we do is bring in audio Bibles,
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  Speaker 6: and a lot of times our Bible studies really consist
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 6: of sitting around listening to a chapter of the Bible
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  Speaker 6: and then our group leader will discuss that with the
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 6: group that's there. So we have many of those groups
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  Speaker 6: spread around different areas, because in Northern Nigeria, you're right,
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  Speaker 6: there are places where you cannot practice openly your faith.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 6: Sharia law here in Northern Nigeria is one of the
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 6: strict swarms of Sharia law in the world. This is
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 6: where if you're a Muslim and or you grew up
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 6: in a Muslim family and you convert to Christianity, you
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 6: become a Christian, that's a crime punishable by death, so
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 6: your family can legally kill you or they can hire
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 6: somebody to kill you. So those in our underground churches
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 6: are always in danger. In fact, about a month and
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 6: a half ago, there were four suicide bombers who walked
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 6: into the city where our underground churches operate in and
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 6: around that city and they blew themselves up, killing four
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 6: of our church members in our underground churches. So they're
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 6: constantly in danger, constantly being hunted, and they faithfully practice
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 6: their faith in our underground churches. We're helping them grow
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 6: and disciple in discipling is a huge part of our
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 6: programs here in Northern Nigeria. We usually take a good
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 6: year to root and ground people in the world of God.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 6: These are people who don't know hardly anything about Christianity
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 6: because they grew up in Islam other than what they've
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 6: heard through the prism of Islam. So we walked them
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 6: through the Bible and help them with that. A lot
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 6: of our people who have come to Christ they want
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 6: to go back and reach their families with the Gospel,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 6: and so we have a Bible Institute that's specifically designed
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 6: to train former Muslims to become pastors and evangelists. We
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 6: train them up and we send them out to start churches.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 6: We send them out to be evangelists for our radio
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 6: programs to follow up with collins that we get. So
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 6: that's a little bit about what our underground operation looks like.
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: We're speaking with Pastor Brad Brandon. He is the founder
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: and CEO of Across Nigeria. They are online at across
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  Speaker 2: Nigeria dot org. He joins us from Nigeria on the
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: Patriot Mobile newsmaker line on the Todd Starn Show. Jeff
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: Stein filling in for Todd today And as you were
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: just talking, Pastor I can't help but think there are
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: many folks who skip out on services on Sundays or
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: whenever the traditional service time is in their culture and
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: with their faith. You know, well it's too hot, it's
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: too cold, I've got other things to do. I just
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: don't feel like going. I mean, the steps that these
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: folks in Nigeria will go to have a connection with God.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: And it's like we can't even be bothered to walk
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: down the street. I mean, I hope people listening understand
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: the gravity of the situation that you're demonstrating through these
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 2: examples to us.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, our folks even in our underground churches, but even
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 6: in our above ground churches, which is more like a
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 6: conventional church that you would see in the United States.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 6: We started ten of those as well. Every day, not
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 6: a Nigerian Christians here risk their life just going to church.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 6: Eighteen thousand churches have been destroyed, three point five million
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 6: Christians in IDP camps. They end up in IDP camps
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 6: because the terrorists have come in bokoharram Isla Bulani militants
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 6: have come into their villages, destroyed their homes, burned their
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 6: villages to the ground. They have nowhere to go. So
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 6: they're thrown into the horrible conditions of the IDP camp,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 6: but they literally risk their life every time they go
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 6: out and every time they go to church. They're risking
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 6: their life to do so. Absolutely.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: You and I spoke on the radio shortly after the
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: Christmas time attacks on Nigeria to improve things for Christians
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: the air strikes that I'm talking about, and I remember
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: we talked at the time about the potential for backlash,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: if you will. Unfortunately that came to pass. But now
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: the administration just ordered another set of air strikes. Give
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: us a sense of this rather active six month period
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: and where you stand towards an ultimate resolution in favor
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: of Christians.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, So it was Friday that the last Friday, a
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 6: week ago, that the administration ordered air strikes in the northeast,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 6: which is not far from where I am right now,
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 6: and that took out this second in command worldwide, So
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 6: that was a huge victory. Also took out some other
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 6: soldiers and leaders as well. They continued with a series
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 6: of air strikes that lasted until Tuesday, and I think
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 6: all in all there were one hundred and seventy six
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 6: ISIS soldiers that were taken out or Icewa. We call
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 6: it Icewa here, the Islamic State of West Africa. It's
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 6: Isis though it's the same thing, and took out their
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 6: leaders as well, and so that was a huge success.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 6: And you know, I think one of the best things
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 6: that come out of these air strikes is the Nigerian
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 6: Christians have been ignored. This genocide has been ignored for
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 6: over a decade now. Media hasn't covered it, churches aren't
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 6: talking about it, administrations haven't dealt with it. And this
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 6: now they know from these airstrikes that the United States
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 6: is standing in their corner and that's the first time
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 6: they've felt this since this genocide started fifteen years ago.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 6: So that's a huge encouragement. But it has the negative
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 6: effect of it really has whipped up terrorism here and
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 6: emboldened terrorism here, and we've seen that happening. We've seen
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 6: more attack now, more than ever. This is the worst
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 6: I've ever seen it in the eleven years we've been
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 6: working here. There's an attack every day now in a
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 6: different area or different location. Every time I turn around,
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 6: there's an attack. I've stood at more mass graves in
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 6: the last couple of weeks than I care to remember.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 6: So it's definitely increasing, the violence is increasing, the situation
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 6: is dire. I think what the administration needs to do
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 6: from my perspective here on ground, and I'm all for
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 6: kinetic action to take down and minimize terrorists stronghold. That
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 6: needs to happen, but they need to make a commitment
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 6: to continue this. The United States has a history, and
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 6: not particularly this administration, but the United States has a
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 6: history of dropping a few bombs into situations like this
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 6: and then abandoning the situation, leaving a vacuum and it
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 6: just gets worse. I mean, we saw that happen in
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 6: Afghanistan and Syria and a few other points. So I
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 6: don't want the administration to do that. If they're going
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 6: to make a commitment to these air strikes and taking
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 6: out vocal Haram and Ila and Lakrewa in these other groups,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 6: then they need to continue with that commitment and until
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 6: it's resolved. But along with that, there's socioeconomic issues that
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 6: are really feeding this process. It's Islam does this everywhere
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 6: that it operates in the world. They draw in people
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 6: who are disadvantaged and of a lower socioeconomic situation, and
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 6: they use this compentment to draw them in and then
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 6: they brainwash them and make them, you know, soldiers of terrorism.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 6: It's the same thing that's happening here. So along with
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 6: that needs to what needs to happen is, you know,
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 6: an increase in the socioeconomic conditions. And that's one of
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 6: the things we do with our school system. We have
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 6: over I think fifty five hundred students in our school
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 6: system right now. We're reaching out and specifically focusing on
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 6: at risk communities who are at risk to be drawn
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 6: into vocal Biram. So we go in there, we provide
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 6: them education, We teach them to read and write English,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 6: literacy training and it really gives them opportunities so that
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 6: they're not so easily drawn into radicalism.
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  Speaker 2: Pastor Brandon of Across Nigeria Across Nigeria dot org, blessings
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: to you and to thank you for the work that
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: you folks are doing. I appreciate the update.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 6: Hey, thank you much, friend, appreciate it.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: And Pastor Brad Brandon joined us on the Patriot Mobile
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  Speaker 2: newsmaker line. If you go to town hall dot com.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: He wrote a piece called Silence in the Face of Slaughter,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: the crisis in northern Nigeria. It was published a couple
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: of weeks ago before the most recent airstrikes Townhall dot
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  Speaker 2: com and his name is Brad Brandon. Patriot Mobile newsmaker
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  Speaker 2: But we begin this hour by going right to the
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  Speaker 2: the National Taxpayers Union. He is Pete Sepp. NTU dot
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  Speaker 2: good to talk to you again, sir.
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  Speaker 10: Always great to be here.
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  Speaker 2: National Taxpayers Union For folks who are not aware, Who
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  Speaker 2: are you, folks? And what do you do for?
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  Speaker 10: A nonprofit, nonpartisan citizen group founded in nineteen sixty nine
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 10: to work for lower, fair or simpler taxes, less wasteful
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 10: government spending, and accountability from public officials at all levels.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's no small task, that public accountability thing. And
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  Speaker 2: it does seem that for all the conversation about from
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: politicians saying that they're going to try to return our
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: money to us, I don't see enough of it, and
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: so you have to get somewhat creative in funding budgets.
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  Speaker 2: Your group has taken on the issue of data centers
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: and you've come up with some interesting I find interesting
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: results on the topic. What are data centers? As you're
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: studying this and talking about their feasibility as part of
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  Speaker 2: our tax system, what our data centers? So we're all
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  Speaker 2: on the same page.
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  Speaker 10: Data centers are structures that house computers, memory storage, telecommunications equipment,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 10: and energy sources, either backup sources or sometimes their own
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 10: power plants that facilitate the flow of information is the
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 10: thing that drives all of our economy. It's what helps
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 10: to power factories, make financial decisions, deliver healthcare. Data centers
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  Speaker 10: are on the forefront of modernizing the way we move
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 10: information and use things like artificial intelligence. Think of a warehouse,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 10: a telephone switching station, and a factory all rolled into one,
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  Speaker 10: but made for the information age.
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  Speaker 2: Why is it necessary or perhaps advantageous may be the
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: wrong word. Why is it necessary for these to be
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: such large structures.
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  Speaker 10: They don't necessarily have to be very large structures, although
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 10: there are certainly many of those, and there are certainly
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 10: large campuses like industrial parks of generation ago, that house
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 10: data centers. But one can be in a building that's
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 10: no bigger than a large department store, for example, and
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 10: they can serve a given region or serve as a
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 10: way station for the flow of data from other regions.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 10: So they do come in all sizes.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: Now, this has become a bit of an issue in
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: some areas. I am in the state of Iowa. We
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: have had a variety of conversations municipalities, counties, etc. With
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: regard to placing these things out in rural area is
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: adjacent to urban areas. There are some who say there
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: is a big drain on local resources to have these
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: things without much benefit. You folks did a cost benefit analysis,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm interested in what you found.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 10: Yes, we have found that if the policy parameters are
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 10: set right, the data center boom can definitely benefit rather
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 10: than cost taxpayers, and there are many examples of how
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 10: it is done right. For one thing, you have to
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 10: look at the upfront contribution of data centers toward a
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 10: tax space. If you have a good welcoming climate for taxes.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 10: That says, to all kinds of business, we would like
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 10: to have you here. You're already ahead of the game.
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  Speaker 10: That's one reason that, for example, Iowa has the second
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 10: largest number per resident of data centers in the entire country.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 10: Virginia is at the top of the heat. One reading
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 10: the biguries is that both states offer good for good
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 10: tax policy, and at least until recently, both states had
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 10: tax policy headed in the right direction. Here, I'm speaking
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 10: of Virginia and the U turn that they've taken on
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 10: their successful tax policies of the past. What that does
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 10: is grow your tax pace. Returning to Virginia, Low to Counties,
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 10: one of the biggest counties in the Washington DC suburbs,
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 10: is the only one in the region that is actually
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 10: reducing property taxes for its residents. The county council itself states,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 10: we can do this because we have many data centers
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 10: paying so much in property.
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  Speaker 2: I can tell you from my own experience property taxes
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: and property tax reform, it's a big issue in my state,
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: and I'm seeing everybody listening to this conversation across the
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: country has some concerns about property taxes, and what the
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: National Taxpayer Union research is showing is your local property
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: tax burden you as an individual listening and paying taxes,
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 2: you might get a break if some of these businesses
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: come in and pay their fair share. Boy, that's a
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: talking point. Pay their fair share. This helps diminish the
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  Speaker 2: need for individuals to have to fund the government on
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  Speaker 2: their own backs exactly.
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  Speaker 10: And that same principle translates to energy usage as well.
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  Speaker 10: It seems counterintuitive when you think about it that well,
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  Speaker 10: if a big industrial customer of any kind, a factory,
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  Speaker 10: a data center, a retail shopping mall comes in, they're
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  Speaker 10: going to use a lot of electricity, and my rates
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  Speaker 10: are going to go up as a home own. That's
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  Speaker 10: not what's actually happening in most places. What happens is
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  Speaker 10: large industrial customers come in and need upgrades to the
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  Speaker 10: existing power grid to plug into it not only capacity,
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  Speaker 10: but the wires, the basic infrastructure. They end up financing that,
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  Speaker 10: and they end up financing improvements that have also been
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  Speaker 10: needed for decades, but the local utilities have been reluctant
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  Speaker 10: to pass along the cost to residents, and so what
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  Speaker 10: they're coming in and doing is financing long needed improvement
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  Speaker 10: because they've got to have them and homeowners benefit on
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  Speaker 10: the side. This is being shown in statistics the Berkeley
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  Speaker 10: National Laboratory, which kind of the place to get statistics
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  Speaker 10: on energy usage, bears the South in thirty states where
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  Speaker 10: load growth in other words, demand for electricity has been
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  Speaker 10: the highest, electricity lowest for residents. Again, this is the phenomenon.
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  Speaker 10: Big customers pay big money to make big upgrades.
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  Speaker 2: And again here in my state there are some folks.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's Google, but there's another company. They want
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  Speaker 2: to have these big data centers, and so they are
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  Speaker 2: working with an energy company to fire up the nuclear
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  Speaker 2: plant that has been dormant for many years, and they're
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  Speaker 2: doing it by contracting for some extended period of time
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five years as I recall, and promising to
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  Speaker 2: purchase from that utility is something like eighty five percent
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  Speaker 2: of what the utility produces, so that therefore makes it
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 2: cost effective for the utility to do the very thing
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  Speaker 2: that you said many wouldn't do, upgrade the infrastructure because
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: you got a customer paying for it.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, exactly. And this can happen if wants to plug
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  Speaker 10: into the existing grid or they want to build what's
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 10: called a behind the meter power source. Sometimes that's a
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  Speaker 10: new natural gas plant. Sometimes it's taking advantage of things
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 10: like nuclear reactors that have been dormant for years. You know,
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  Speaker 10: the CEO of a Mississippi utility set its thanks to
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  Speaker 10: the influx of new customers like Amazon and other data
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  Speaker 10: centers coming to Mississippi, we're able to fund critical reliability
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 10: improvements without passing any added costs onto our residential customers
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 10: through win win in this guy's words. And Okay, it
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 10: doesn't always happen everywhere, but it's happening more than most
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 10: people think.
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  Speaker 2: It is exit question for National Taxpayer's Union President Pete
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  Speaker 2: Sapp joining us on the Patreo Mobile news maker line
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  Speaker 2: on the Todd Starn Show, Am I to understand that
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  Speaker 2: the places where this is working, where it becomes a
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  Speaker 2: win win, it's because the local officials had the foresight
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: to create a situation as opposed to letting it happen
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  Speaker 2: to them. In other words, there's government proactivity necessary for
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  Speaker 2: this to pencil out in the way you're suggesting.
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  Speaker 10: Yes, absolutely, if government reaches out first to many of
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  Speaker 10: these companies and says, look, we know we're in a
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  Speaker 10: competition with China here for example, which is building data
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  Speaker 10: centers at a breathtaking pace. We want to be a
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  Speaker 10: part of this new economy. But here are the things
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 10: we think we need from you and the private sector
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  Speaker 10: in order for this to happen. Also, states and localities
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  Speaker 10: can lay the groundwork long in bands with low fare,
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  Speaker 10: consistent tax policies. It's not a secret that initially the
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  Speaker 10: data center boom, going back ten to fifteen years, well
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 10: that was scattered into a lot of traditional tech corridors.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 10: Well in places like California now Virginia. Those tech corridors
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 10: are where they're raising taxes, and so they're looking for
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  Speaker 10: places where the tax environment is less harsh and the
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  Speaker 10: resources are there.
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  Speaker 2: NTU dot org is the website for the National Taxpayers Union,
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  Speaker 2: and that's where you go to get information these papers
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  Speaker 2: that have been prepared by the folks at NTU on
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  Speaker 2: this topic. National Taxpayers Union President Pete Sepp, thanks for
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: the time on the Todd Starn Show. Have a safe
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  Speaker 2: Memorial Day weekends, sir.
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  Speaker 10: You do the same.
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  Speaker 6: It's been a pleasure.
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  Speaker 2: Likewise, and mister Stepp joined us on the Patriot Mobile
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  Speaker 2: electricity of AM radio. You know this, when there's a
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  Speaker 2: lightning storm, there's a little crackle, right, And so the
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  Speaker 2: automakers tried to say, well, well, you know you can't
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  Speaker 2: have an AM radio and an electric vehicle. By the way,
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  Speaker 2: that's false. All they had to do was put a
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  Speaker 2: all the electric vehicles on the road, we can't put
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  Speaker 2: AM radios in other vehicles because it'll interfere with the
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  Speaker 10: Also false.
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  Speaker 2: Why were they doing it, Well, they were doing it
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  Speaker 2: for money to a large degree, because when you buy
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  Speaker 2: a vehicle, they don't want you to have free radio
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  Speaker 2: or on demand services. It's all about money in that respect,
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  Speaker 2: at that. We can get rid of AM radio and
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  Speaker 2: the car makers make more money, and the liberals can
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  Speaker 2: stay in power, and the people will be kept from
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  Speaker 2: why there's the AM in Every Vehicle Act, which has
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  Speaker 2: huge bipartisan support in Congress, huge support of the President.
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  Speaker 2: But yet they can't get it across the finish line
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  Speaker 2: to a funding bill for transportation. Maybe that's the way
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  Speaker 2: much for taking the time. Jeff Stein in for Todd today.
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  Speaker 2: How are you, sir?
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  Speaker 7: I'm fantastic, Jeff.
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  Speaker 5: How are you.
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  Speaker 2: Doing very well? And I'm interested in your background as
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  Speaker 2: someone who has been involved as a private detective, law enforcement, etc.
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  Speaker 2: But you're there in Los Angeles. I'm out here in
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: the state of Iowa. We feel pretty good about things here,
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  Speaker 2: but what I see on TV makes it look like
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  Speaker 2: it's a real mess out there. Give us a sense
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  Speaker 2: of the crime situation out there in California and what
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  Speaker 2: you would do if given the opportunity to maybe turn
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  Speaker 2: things around.
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  Speaker 7: I will say that the state of Los Angeles is
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 7: seriously deteriorated. And this isn't a new thing. It's just
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 7: picked up pace over the last ten years. Inteen ninety two,
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  Speaker 7: everybody in the world saw the Rodney King riots with
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  Speaker 7: people getting beaten to death in the streets, innocent business
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  Speaker 7: owners looted while the city stood by and did the
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  Speaker 7: bare minimum if that. And that was the year that
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  Speaker 7: I've seen my private detectives license, having been in the
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  Speaker 7: Pinkerton service in the army before that, and it's just
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  Speaker 7: been a growth industry. I'll give your listeners an interesting fact.
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  Speaker 7: You would think that the business community would have a
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  Speaker 7: lot of sway in a town like Los Angeles, and
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  Speaker 7: they do have a certain amount of sway. The last
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  Speaker 7: time I had a client suffer a five hundred thousand
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  Speaker 7: plus dollar embezzlement at a City of Los Angeles based business,
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 7: meaning within the city limits, they were told by LAPD's
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  Speaker 7: financial Crimes unit that the minimum threshold was seven hundred
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  Speaker 7: thousand dollars for that unit to even investigate the crime,
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  Speaker 7: and they had a four year backlog for filing cases.
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  Speaker 2: There's no way anybody hearing that statement can have confidence
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: in those who are running things can they. I'm trying
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: to figure out what can even account for that other
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 2: than laziness, malfeasance, misconduct, or what.
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  Speaker 7: The Jacobins running this city don't want criminals prosecuted.
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  Speaker 6: They can.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 7: They equipped prosecution with persecution unless it select crimes, but
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 7: perceived assault on a racial or sexual minority. Let's say
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 7: somebody goes over to Griffith Park and beats up a
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 7: gay man in the men's room at night or something
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 7: like that. They will launch a ruthless man hunt to identify, locate,
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  Speaker 7: and prosecute that guy. If somebody beats up somebody in
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  Speaker 7: the streets and steals their phone or their catalytic converter,
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 7: something like that, there's heavy pressure on the police to
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  Speaker 7: do as little as possible unless there's a known, identifiable suspect.
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  Speaker 7: I will say that it's been job security for me.
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  Speaker 7: Jeff I relocated to Iowa for four years from two
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  Speaker 7: thousand and sixty twenty ten and almost starved it at
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 7: in Iowa. The only criminals in Iowa are the political class.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I was a defense attorney at one point in
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 2: my career, and at that point and I kept food
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  Speaker 2: on the table, But that was well before the period
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  Speaker 2: of time that you're mentioning, what's the difference between some
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  Speaker 2: of these states, Because a lot of good folks listening
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: to this program in the heartland of the country, when
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 2: we talk about things in these big blue cities, it's
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 2: hard for us to understand. So since you've had the
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  Speaker 2: multiple experiences, give us a sense of the conditions that
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  Speaker 2: are different, that may help explain it.
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  Speaker 7: In the state of Iowa, if the state Patrol, the
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  Speaker 7: Moines Police, the Dallas County Sheriff, etc. All over her
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  Speaker 7: car with four men on paper meaning on parole, and
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  Speaker 7: there were two guns in the car, they would toss
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 7: the car. They would impound the car, they would impound
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 7: the weapons. The Folk County District Attorney's office would file
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 7: felony charges. They would investigate the weapons to see if
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 7: there were any dead bodies on them, meaning attributable to
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 7: the ballistics of the weapons. You know, they'd do all
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 7: the proper things associated with that crime. In Los Angeles County,
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 7: often no one is prosecuted. Now things aren't changing a
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 7: little bit. Nathan Haukman was elected a district attorney in
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 7: twenty twenty four. When George Gascon, who was a Jacobin
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 7: communist was district attorney, they would just warehouse the guns
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 7: pass a police department. Pasadena has a population equivalent to
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 7: that of Des Moines, has three trailers full of impounded
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 7: guns taken off of criminals. They were taking an average
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 7: of one gun a night during the week and three
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 7: guns on the weekends off of men on paper, men
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 7: who already convicted felons. That sort of thing with the
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 7: district attorney refusing to prosecute them anything unless it could
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 7: be tied to an immediate crime like an attempted murderer
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 7: or robbery that occurred that night. Otherwise they just went
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 7: into the trailer and nothing occurred.
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  Speaker 2: I am struck by the rationale that some give some
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: who have the ability to file charges, prosecute, etc. I
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  Speaker 2: think they either claim they're over work, they claim that
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 2: there's not enough facilities, but they also claim things like, well,
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  Speaker 2: given that person socioeconomic back ground, given the hard times
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 2: they had growing up, they deserve this kind of leniency.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know where we got off track with that. Again,
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  Speaker 2: You've done this thirty plus years. It's just completely different now,
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  Speaker 2: I trust, or at least far far worse, as you mentioned,
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: than it was when you started.
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  Speaker 7: Mister Stein, Let's draw a line of distinction between good
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  Speaker 7: government democrats, which are intensely rare right now, particularly implicities,
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  Speaker 7: and Jacobins meaning communists, the communologs who led the French
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 7: Revolution in the late eighteenth century and lined people up
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 7: for the guillotine and killed them for the mere crime
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 7: of having a farm that wasn't fallow or having a
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 7: shop that wasn't barren. That's the sort of mentality. They
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 7: view their natural constituency as inclusive of the criminal class.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 7: Criminal class. They're very smart.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 6: They're adaptive.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 7: They know that they have equity in the people running
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 7: these cities.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 2: We're speaking with Nils Grivilius. He is the author of
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: the forthcoming book The Last law Man, True Stories of
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: a Private Detective. You can pre order it now. It's
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: released June ninth. He joins us on the Patriotmobile Newsmaker
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: line on the Todd Starn Show, Jeff Stein filling in
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 2: for Todd today. What led you to collect these stories
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 2: and put them in book for him at this time?
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  Speaker 2: What was the impetus for you?
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  Speaker 7: In twenty twenty two, a good friend of mine had died.
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  Speaker 7: He was like Mike Gaelic Rabbi. He was an NYPD
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  Speaker 7: organized crime Squad detective who went to work for Spy
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  Speaker 7: and Vanity Fair, etc. He wrote Healthy Rich, which was
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  Speaker 7: one of the exposs of Epstein, and he had died.
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  Speaker 7: I was in attendance at his funeral at Saint Vincent
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  Speaker 7: Ferrara in the big city of New York, and I
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  Speaker 7: got a notice on my smartphone that I had been
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  Speaker 7: perminently banned from Facebook for the alleged crime of stochastic terrorism,
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  Speaker 7: which is one of those one hundred dollars terms invented
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  Speaker 7: by the worms at the Southern Poverty Law Center, meaning
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  Speaker 7: your mere words and ideas are so violent that we
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  Speaker 7: cannot allow you in to even have a Facebook account.
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  Speaker 7: I was so irritated, Jeff. I went back to my
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  Speaker 7: room at the New York Athletic Crop Club and wrote
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  Speaker 7: the first three chapters of my professional memoir, The Last
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  Speaker 7: law Man, that very evening, and it took me about
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  Speaker 7: totn't know six months to get the manuscript roughed out.
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  Speaker 7: And then I had to get literariation. I am very
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  Speaker 7: well represented now, having never been really a literary figure before,
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  Speaker 7: and I intend to get this book widely read widely distributed.
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  Speaker 7: I'm very grateful to have the ears of your audience.
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  Speaker 7: You're lending me a very powerful microphone here today.
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  Speaker 2: Jess Well, you're on the Post Hill Press publishing label,
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  Speaker 2: and they know what they're doing there. The book comes
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  Speaker 2: out on June the ninth, and again it's called The
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  Speaker 2: Last Law Man. Let's close with this, and you know
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  Speaker 2: we're headed into a holiday weekend and I want people
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  Speaker 2: to be in a good mood as much as possible.
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  Speaker 2: Do you see a sense of optimism? Should we have
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  Speaker 2: a sense of optimism? Because as you tell these stories,
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 2: as you use your voice, so many others are as well.
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  Speaker 2: Voters are paying attention. Is their cause for optimism for
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 2: the society that we can again feel safe.
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  Speaker 7: I'm endlessly optimistic death. I'm seeing a revolt afoot here
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  Speaker 7: in Los Angeles right now, arising of these recent fires.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 7: My sister and my ex wife both lost their houses
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 7: in the Altadena fire, and people are waking up to
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 7: what has occurred. It's been the slow boiling fraud. Well,
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 7: the frogs are hopping out of the pot now and
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 7: there is matt as hell. There's a very good chance
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 7: that the city government is about to be overthrown by
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 7: Spencer Pratt. I fully support him in this. There are
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 7: many people behind him. And because Los Angeles doesn't require
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 7: voter ID, in fact, it's illegal to present your ID
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 7: to vote in LA, we're importing as many illegal aliens
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 7: as we can to vote for Spencer Pratt to overthrow
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 7: this government.
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  Speaker 2: The Last law Man, True Stories of a Private Detective.
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  Speaker 2: It comes out in a few weeks. Nils Grevilius, the
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: author and our guest, Well, I'm sorry that you starved
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 2: when you were in my state of Iowa, but I'm
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: glad that your table is full these days. And thank
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 2: you so much for sharing this. It was a fun conversation.
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  Speaker 7: It's been my very sincere pleasure. I want to wish
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  Speaker 7: you and all your audience the most lovely oil day ever.
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  Speaker 7: Never forget this fallen. Shuttle up. We're on for a
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 7: long patrol.
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  Speaker 2: Here, jess aymen, sir, thank you much again for the time.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 2: And he joined us on the Patriot Mobile newsmaker line.
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  Speaker 2: The Last Lawman Nils Gravilius, and we certainly echo the
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  Speaker 2: statement about remembering the reason for the day off from
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  Speaker 2: work for some people come Monday. The Last Lawman, the
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• 1:46:30
  Speaker 2: it is available in just a couple of weeks. And
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: as you're thinking about what could be a better way
• 1:46:37
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  Speaker 2: It's released July seven, and all guests on the program
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: join us on the Patriot Mobile newsmaker line. One more
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: secondment of this Friday program from the Liberty University Studio.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 2: Short break. Now we're back on the other side. Jeff
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 2: Stein in for Todd, and this is the Todd starn Show.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome Back. Final segment from the Liberty University Studio. This
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 2: is the Todd starn Show. Jeff Stein filling in from
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: Iowa for Todd Today, scheduled day off from the radio
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: for Ts. He's active on the socials and doing all
• 1:48:31
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• 1:48:35
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• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: by purchasing a copy of The Golden Age comes out
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  Speaker 2: Get it wherever you get your good books these days,
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  Speaker 2: including Amazon dot Com. Big thank you to Helen for
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: all the work on this call screening, getting our guests
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: in place Parker at the controls of the mighty Worlitzer
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  Speaker 2: down in Memphis, And of course to mister Starns for
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: having the confidence to allow me to sit here and
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 2: talk with you all in Starn's Nation. It's always a privilege.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 2: Never take it for granted. To be sure, I gotta
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: tell you. Let's close with a story that it's okay
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 2: to get older. I'm trying to be better about that.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: I'm in my low sixties. I like to phrase it
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 2: that way because it seems like maybe I can shave
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 2: a year or two off that way. But I was
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 2: at the grocery store, so for you it might be
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 2: the Kroger. For me, it was the High V.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 6: All right.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: So I'm at the High Ve and a young lady
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: is doing the checkout duties and there's music playing in
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 2: through the speakers in the store. I'm not paying any
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: attention to what the music is. I'm looking at my
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 2: grocery list. I just want to make sure that I
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: got what I was supposed to get. And as she's
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 2: doing the checkout, you know, kind of sweep the thing
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 2: acrossing is boop boop, boop whatever, and she kind of
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: looks up where the speaker is in the ceiling and
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: makes a face and says, ugh, I don't know where
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: they get these these songs.
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  Speaker 3: This music.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: So I started listening, and I realized, well, I know
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: the song. It was popular when I was her age,
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 2: probably right, And I said, oh, okay, that one, and
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: she said you know this song like it was this
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: hideous thing. I said, well, yes, it's from a band
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: called Styx. And then, because of course I was a
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 2: disc jockey in my youth, I retain useless information about
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: the popular music of the time. So I tried to
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: be helpful and said, not only did I say it
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: was by a band called Sticks, I said it's from
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  Speaker 2: nineteen seventy eight, at which point she stopped checking out
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 2: the groceries, looked at me and said, nineteen seventy eight.
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  Speaker 2: That's even before my parents were born. There is nothing
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  Speaker 2: to put you in your place, because then I started
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: doing the math and yeah, it's not just mathematically possible,
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 2: but that's grant my granddaughter, if you will. I don't
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: have kids, so I don't know how to measure these things.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 2: But when the girl checking you out at the grocery
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 2: store says your music is older than my parents, and
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 2: then I thought, well, I'll try to make it cool.
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  Speaker 2: You can see this is not going to work, right.
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 2: I thought I'd make it cool because the song that
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 2: was playing was called come sail Away, good luck getting
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 2: that out of your head the rest of the day.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 2: Those are you of this age group? And it was
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 2: used in a somewhat parody form in the show south Park.
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 2: And so I said, thinking I was being helpful, well,
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  Speaker 2: you know, south Park even did a parody of it,
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  Speaker 2: and I got this look like I might as well
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  Speaker 2: have said the Jack Benny Show, Okay, I mean And
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 2: then to top it all off, I had coupons. I mean, nothing,
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: says all old man who is losing relevancy, Then to
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 2: pick out songs that are nearly fifty years old, and
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  Speaker 2: then cap the whole thing off with a fistful of
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  Speaker 2: coupons so we can save thirty five cents or something
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: of that nature. But yet I like to eat. I
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  Speaker 2: will be back at the grocery store and I will
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: engage in a game of name that tune with her again,
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  Speaker 2: should it come up. What a delight to have these
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: wonderful guests on the program today. My goal in radio
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 2: is to make sure we don't waste your time, and
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: I sure hope that was the case today. Again to
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 2: Team Todd in Memphis, thanks so much, mister Starn's always
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 2: a privileged godspeed, and to all of you a very
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: safe Memorial Day weekend. Jeff Stein in for Todd on
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 2: The Todd Starn Show