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- 0:00Good morning. We are in Resh Saadi Dalid
- 0:05summon Resh Saadi Dalid Sif yud Karam Shu suffik Arla baharets
- 0:12baris Israel asur ubisuria Moto a vineyard which the whole
- 0:19vineyard, we don't know if it was planted within the last
- 0:22three years or not. So the whole thing is Arla.
- 0:27So in Eretz Cesarol you can enjoy the grapes from from that
- 0:31venue. And in Syria you are allowed to
- 0:34and of course Vince Arflong with the Hutzlarats and the rest of
- 0:36Hutzlarats that you would be allowed to enjoy the Paris
- 0:41because the Suffolk, right, because it's a Suffolk.
- 0:44So therefore the Paris will be more than that.
- 0:45Before we saw in Tess that there's a difference between
- 0:49Syria and the rest of Fotzlarats that you needed like an extra
- 0:54level of Suffolk in, in, in Syria.
- 0:57But that was where there was definitely a kosher Karim.
- 1:02And some of the, some of the some of the vines were known to
- 1:10be, were known to be Arla Here the entire Karim is a safik
- 1:14Arla. So safik Arla.
- 1:15But what's the R, as we say is mutter yud aleph kavashal yayin
- 1:21hatsumanabe Karim. If you find a barrel of wine
- 1:25hidden in a vineyard, the Karamichal Arlo where the the
- 1:29whole Karam is vada arlo muta, you can you may drink that wine.
- 1:35You don't have to assume that that wine came from Orlo grapes.
- 1:38Shane Hagana Ghonev MI Karamazeh, the Tom and bisarfa
- 1:42because we have we have a fazaka.
- 1:45This is this is a rule that we're saying, therefore we it's
- 1:48not even a suffix. It's not even that we'd have to
- 1:50worry about it. Well, in there, it's just well,
- 1:52maybe no, we have a rule that a Ghana doesn't steal the grapes
- 1:58from this vineyard and then hide the wine from that vineyard in
- 2:02in that vineyard, right. So Shana got a gun in me.
- 2:05Caramazeba tell me the sofa. He wouldn't hide the wine that
- 2:09comes from those grapes in that vineyard.
- 2:12Avil Anavim, Shinim Sutzman and Beau.
- 2:14But if you find grapes hidden in, you know, clearly stowed
- 2:18away in that vineyard, a surum. So those grapes would be
- 2:23awesome. Shakarov Hadavar And the same
- 2:25way we said it was a rule that that wouldn't happen.
- 2:27Now we're saying that's a rule that it would happen.
- 2:29Shakarov Hadavar it's it's very likely Shaganva Mimenova, Tamnam
- 2:34Bisova that he stole the grapes from that vineyard and and Stow
- 2:38them away in that vineyard. That's a likely thing to happen.
- 2:40So that's why we don't say that is Suffolk Fuslar as well.
- 2:44Why don't you say that maybe, maybe these, these grapes came
- 2:47from somewhere else? No, it's not really a Suffolk.
- 2:50It's very likely that they came from that vineyard.
- 2:53So that's what we don't. That's why we wouldn't say
- 2:55Suffolk Arla in this case and Fuslar's that would be much
- 2:59like, no, if you find grapes stored away in a, in a vineyard
- 3:03of Arla, it is Vada Assam or it's likely Assam.
- 3:08It's likely. We're saying that it's likely
- 3:11because it's likely that's that we're no human behavior.
- 3:13It's it's a mytheism. Since it's likely it's therefore
- 3:16not a Suffolk you'd base also lead to a priest show Arlo.
- 3:21You're not allowed to plant an entire Prix from Arlo right.
- 3:27Let's say you have a Peach and want to just put that whole
- 3:29Peach in the ground or even the pit from that Peach and put it
- 3:32under the ground and grow a new Peach, a new Peach tree from it.
- 3:35You're not allowed to do that because the Paris are also
- 3:38including the seeds, including using it for for growing new
- 3:43fruit, the emnata. But if you did plant Peres of
- 3:47Arla, then not the hyperos chaos emnata Paris.
- 3:51If you did plant Peres chaos mimena mutarum that which grows
- 3:56out or hyperos, I'm sorry, hyperos chaos mimena mutarum the
- 4:00the fruit that would grow from a fruit that you planted of Arla.
- 4:05So those fruits would be mutter Zeviza garam, because both the
- 4:10Arla and the planting it in the ground where the ground is
- 4:13mutter. So you have something which is
- 4:15usser and something which is mutter together grow the new
- 4:19tree that that grows out of that tree of Arla Zeb zagarin is
- 4:23mutter. So you're not supposed to you're
- 4:26not allowed to plant the Paris of of Arla.
- 4:31But if you did the fruit that grow from the tree that grow
- 4:34from the Arla are mutter well muta Lita yikhor you are allowed
- 4:39to plant a cutting pirish anaf minha ilan.
- 4:44If if you you make a cutting from from a tree and then you
- 4:46plant that into the ground shell Arla, even though that tree is
- 4:49meanwhile still Arla, that yikhor is lahara yikhor of Arla.
- 4:53No, that's muta do Shane Arla Ellebert PRI.
- 4:55We saw in Sif Aleph that Arla only applies to the fruits.
- 4:59It does not apply to the wood. It doesn't apply to to the
- 5:05Lulava and it doesn't apply to to the wood to the to the tree
- 5:07itself. You'd gimmel you have to wait
- 5:10three years for the E4 of all time.
- 5:12Yes, if you plant a E4 that's much to do and then that E4 that
- 5:17that that cutting which grows into a tree the the the fruits
- 5:21of that of those first three years would be it's like any
- 5:25other anything else that you plant, you'd gimmel.
- 5:28Oh, how many Sarah, you shouldn't have been it to you.
- 5:31If there's a guy and a Jew who are partners in a sapling in in
- 5:37in planting something in lo histnamitkila if they didn't
- 5:41arrange originally ASA so then the the the fruits of the first
- 5:47three years are ASA. There's not much to do then
- 5:53histnamitkila. But if they if they made-up
- 5:57originally at the beginning of their of their shutfish say hey
- 6:02ho with the hum Oh Shne Arlo that the guy will take the
- 6:05fruits of the first three years. We saw Al awful Gimel Chernan
- 6:09Michnay had to connect get Schnee Arlo and the Jew will eat
- 6:14three years after the first three years and they'll they'll
- 6:18be totally his right. The so the guy gets all of the
- 6:21fruits of the first few years. The guy, the the Jew gets the
- 6:23the all of the fruits from the next three years.
- 6:26Or is it not you're allowed to do that.
- 6:28You're allowed to you're out of break up your shutfist that way.
- 6:31Vuvanchalo Yevola Peshban, as long as they don't make a
- 6:36counting of the actual number of fruits.
- 6:38Keitz odd could go on Shayashov coma Paris.
- 6:42Oh, hello to Hava missionary Arlo and say OK, you ate 500
- 6:45fruits during the first three years.
- 6:48Actually, if he's troll, can I get also not Paris.
- 6:50So now the the the Jews going to get 500 of the next of the next
- 6:54couple of years. Those will be completely his.
- 6:56And then after that they'll, they'll, they'll split evenly.
- 6:58But that's something that you can't do.
- 7:00You can't now say, OK, I'm going to get 500 fruits till, till the
- 7:03Jew gets 500 fruits. Then they're all his.
- 7:05Your name wasn't that Paris Shazza Asar.
- 7:08That would be asar to do Why Neshubum Kamaflev Paris Allah,
- 7:12because now you're like bartering.
- 7:14You're using the the Jew is now bartering his halak in the Arla
- 7:20fruits against, you know, for, for, for other fruits.
- 7:24And that's as if he's, he's using them for payment.
- 7:27He's getting Hana from the Orla fruits themselves.
- 7:30We're not worried about what the guy is doing, but the Jew is now
- 7:33getting Hana from from the, the, the Paris of dollars.
- 7:36What's the difference between you get the first three years
- 7:39and I get the second three years and you eat all of the Paris.
- 7:42We're going to count how many Paris those are and then I'll
- 7:45get the same number against it. So the difference is, are you
- 7:50looking at a year's worth or are you looking at the number of
- 7:52fruits? So if you're looking at the
- 7:54crop, if you're looking at, well, you got the first three
- 7:56years, I got done the next three years.
- 7:58That's OK. The guy is getting the, the Arla
- 8:00of the first first three years. The guy is not in Suvan Arla.
- 8:04But but when you're, when you're counting fruits against fruits.
- 8:08So now you're actually you're bartering with with the fruits
- 8:11that are awesome. Viesh Matirin Afilulo, his in
- 8:16the mitilo. There are those we we're going a
- 8:18little further back in in you'd Gimel.
- 8:20There are those that Mata, even if they did not originally say,
- 8:24OK, the guy's going to get the first three years produce and
- 8:27then you'll get the next three years produce.
- 8:28By the way, it could be that we that they'd say the next two
- 8:31years produce doesn't actually have to be 3 against three, but
- 8:34it does have to be, you know, a yearly crop, the Aish Matira
- 8:38Matila Lo, his new Mithila that even if the the Jew and the
- 8:41guide did not make up with the originally when they said that
- 8:44the their shufus Raksha Yisrael Omar Lovid Kufavan told Arthur
- 8:49Sneha Arlo Vani, Ethel Schne, Heather Kenegdun.
- 8:53You take the first three years, I'll take the next three years.
- 8:56It doesn't have to be at the forming of the shufus.
- 8:59It could be even later Udala motto lomalovic hava mishnay
- 9:06Arla avod carmi de hito parisal A Jew is allowed to say to a
- 9:12guy, OK, you work my land, you work my vineyard during the
- 9:19first three years and then you're entitled to eat all of
- 9:22the fruits. Then the tainly Karmatha, you
- 9:25give me your vineyard to work Shah Abdullah that I'll work
- 9:30your your vineyard which where this where this vineyard is is
- 9:40ready past Arla, the tenant of Rue alleged named Arla that it's
- 9:45already past Arla the eve then and I'll work your vineyard,
- 9:49that's the Paris and I'll enjoy the fruits of your vineyard.
- 9:52Why is this not? Why is this not the Jew having
- 9:58enough from his, from his Paris, from his Karen of Arla?
- 10:02Because we like we saw in Yudemo that if you do year against
- 10:06year, that's fine. So now here also in a similar
- 10:10way, we're saying that the person that that is working the
- 10:13land is entitled to the fruits and we're just in order for it
- 10:18to be a Mishtalian for the for the Jews.
- 10:20So he's doing the same thing with the guy, but he's not, he's
- 10:23not actually exchanging his fruits, the Jews, fruits of his
- 10:29carom for the guys fruits of the guys carom which are after
- 10:32Harlow. That's not what's going on here.
- 10:34We're saying that because for him to do that, that would be
- 10:37us. But we're saying that each one
- 10:40is saying the worker is entitled to the fruits of the, of the
- 10:44vineyard that he works. So that's OK.
- 10:46And again, a guy is not much of A in, in Arla.
- 10:50So as a guy working the vineyard, he's entitled to, to,
- 10:54to get the fruits of that of, of that, of that Arla vineyard.
- 10:57So that's why it works out that it's, there's what to talk
- 11:04about. Let's not get into those
- 11:05details. Tesla muta lumpkar l'haben Paris
- 11:09schnee Arlo le chalo charm MI afe schlo bolololam.
- 11:12This one's fascinating. And the Taza actually says that
- 11:16it's Arafin. But even though we're saying now
- 11:20that I have enough from Paris Arlo, that's only after they
- 11:26exist. But if you can tell the guy, pay
- 11:33me, you know, $100 for all of the fruits of my Karen for the
- 11:38next three years before they ever exist.
- 11:41As long as those those those grapes or other fruits don't yet
- 11:46exist, you can sell them to the guy.
- 11:48And that's for some reason that's not considered Hana from
- 11:54from parish from Paris to Zion. EF Ed hanotea garin O yihuur
- 12:03oshaka kolha Elam vinata BA Malcolm affair.
- 12:09Somebody that plants a seed or let's say an acorn, not from an
- 12:16oak. An oak doesn't get fruit, but
- 12:18but a seed from of a tree or a or a cutting from a tree or he
- 12:24uprooted an entire tree from one place and then he planted it
- 12:28again in another place, the Efahim Markovich or the Ilan.
- 12:33So also someone that does Harkova, which does what's the
- 12:39word grafting. So also somebody that that
- 12:44grafts a cutting from one tree into another tree being an
- 12:48affair into another tree, the Efahim Navra.
- 12:51Also somebody that does Havrafa, which is the Heiner sha OSA guma
- 12:56ET alhat Elan you, you dig a hole next to the tree that that
- 12:59has many branches, young soft branches, umashkel ehad Mein
- 13:03ante hai Elan. And then you bend down one of
- 13:07the tree's branches, umachman and ETSO baguma and you bend
- 13:11that down South that the middle of that branch is inside of the
- 13:15hole. And then you fill it up with
- 13:16with dirt. So now the middle of one of the
- 13:19branches is in the ground and then the so one end attaches to
- 13:23the tree, the middle of it is in the ground and the other end is,
- 13:27is freestanding. And there's freestanding the the
- 13:36other end of the branch Vanessa Elan.
- 13:39And then that grows into its own tree.
- 13:42Kulam Khayavan BA Arlo, all of those things, you know,
- 13:46transplanting from the seed. All of that is five in Arlo, but
- 13:50but there's a caveat. Gaddafi shafaqa meetsad zam igra
- 13:54Elam. The case of the of the havrafa
- 13:57where you bent you, you took a branch and you bent it into the
- 14:01ground. So that is only when you chopped
- 14:04it off the connection from the ground to the original tree.
- 14:09OSHA anu yonic menu or it shriveled up and and it's it's
- 14:12not getting any sustenance from that tree, from the original
- 14:16tree. I will close Mantra Mukhabar,
- 14:19but anytime that the branch is still attached to the original
- 14:23tree and it's still drawing sustenance from the original
- 14:26tree, Bionic me men hush of Cafe Manafa, it's that still counts
- 14:30as one of the branches of the original tree and it's the
- 14:33original tree already passed Arlo.
- 14:34So then the fruits on the free standing side, as long as it's
- 14:38still connected to the first tree is not Arlo.
- 14:41Once you cut them off, once you disconnect them, then the fruits
- 14:46of the freestanding side would be our love.
- 14:50Then the officer got all ha anaf shahivrif hivrah from a men who
- 14:54owed enough now. Well, let's say if you just do
- 14:56this ad infinitum, right? It's still connected to the,
- 14:59the, the, the havraha from the first tree grows into a new
- 15:03tree. So now that new tree, you take
- 15:05one of the one of the branches of that tree and you do have
- 15:08raha on that right? And you keep going ad infinitum.
- 15:11You keep doing that again and again.
- 15:14Shahivrah man old enough hafair bar it's basukane come upon you
- 15:19did it again and again. Zafr zah Kohl's Mann sharushin
- 15:23mahubala ikar. As long as the first branch is
- 15:26still attached to the first tree, le le ikar hai Elam kulan
- 15:31peturam, then all of the fruits of all of the of the
- 15:35freestanding trees that that are all connected through a branch,
- 15:40all of those fruits are Pata from Arla because they're all
- 15:43considered fruits of the original tree because they're
- 15:45all still connected and it's all still yonic hip sick arisham
- 15:50mihikar Elam. If you disconnected that first
- 15:55havraha from the first tree high oven, now all of them suddenly
- 16:00become Arla. The fruits of all of them come
- 16:02become Arla. I don't know the ones that
- 16:04already grew, but but from that point on, new fruits that would
- 16:08grow from all of those other trees would become Arlo Umasil
- 16:12and Luminos, Lahan Misha Shihifsik.
- 16:14And you would count the, you would start counting the three
- 16:17years from the moment that they got disconnected from that first
- 16:20tree, the Icra Pata. Of course, the fruits from the
- 16:23first, from the very first tree, those would remain, those would
- 16:26remain Pata, those that are growing on the actual stock of
- 16:29the first tree. Five years later, yeah.
- 16:32Suddenly Darla started five years later.
- 16:34Yes, yes, that's exactly what this is saying.
- 16:37Even five years later, you have 10 more trees or they're all you
- 16:41could you could trace the branch that goes to one tree to the
- 16:44other tree all the way back to the original tree.
- 16:46Yes, now they all start their Orla.
- 16:48Once you you saw that one, that one branch in half the Nekar
- 16:53Ekar Mehakaraka Posilios Tofel la anaf Chehibrif.
- 16:59If the not only if the, if you disconnected the second tree
- 17:09from the first one, then all the ones that after that that they
- 17:11become Arlo. But also if you were to uproot
- 17:14the first tree, now all of them, they become Arlo then Naka
- 17:17Ichamerica Joslias Tofel. But but even more so, they would
- 17:20all start their clock. There's start the clock now.
- 17:24And even the original tree which you uprooted would also start
- 17:26it's clock now again, of course, the Paris that are were on that
- 17:30tree at the moment that you did it.
- 17:32Those would be mutter. But everything that grows after
- 17:35that would now be Arlo closely. It's tough a lot enough.
- 17:38Shahebriya Umonen Ben Ikar Ben Anaf Misha Shenekar.
- 17:42And you would start counting from when the original tree got
- 17:45uprooted. Well, the the all the subsequent
- 17:48trees, that tree itself, all of them would the clock would start
- 17:51again from when you uprooted the original tree.
- 17:54Good sign. I hope that was clear.
- 17:57Alphabeisha Minhag hovde Adama la Havre kafana and beholshana.
- 18:02Even though there is a custom of people that work vineyards that
- 18:09every year they do this havraha kind of thing to grow new, to
- 18:13grow new shoots, to grow new vines.
- 18:16Muta lustosia and migafne hovde kafen, even though that that is
- 18:20what people do. You're allowed to drink wine
- 18:24from the vines of the of the guy.
- 18:27Mishim de Suffolk are la Motta, because Suffolk is motto.
- 18:31Now the Mahaba's talking about in fist Lawrence, but a few of
- 18:34the Crownshe Israel Ogdemo, some even in a vineyard where a Jew
- 18:39is working there, but it belongs to a guy and that very him owes
- 18:42some the whole Shana and the Jew is actually doing the abrafa.
- 18:46Or maybe it's it's a caram, even if it's a caram that belongs to
- 18:49a Jew. But we're in futz Lauritz and he
- 18:52does havraha every year. Motor it's still motor.
- 18:55Why mission demagf a market in Haiba Allah Allah.
- 19:00Because havraha and and grafting are only 5 in Arla.
- 19:07In Arizona, Siserawa Loba, futz Lauritz and futz Lauritz have
- 19:11Rafa and grafting are not 5 in Arla the ehslund soheta gamluvne
- 19:17eretziszrel. Now, even if this happens in
- 19:20Eretziszrel right, every year they they they do this Havraka
- 19:24thing. If you have yayin, the yayin
- 19:29Shalkarni Havdi Kasavan, if it's if it's one that comes out of a
- 19:33caram of a guy in Eretziszrel, you can still enjoy.
- 19:38You're still allowed to have enough from that wine.
- 19:41Why you shouldn't do rub. But the buffanum love Arlen in
- 19:44who because there is still a Suffolk here, because most of
- 19:48the first of all, there's a Rove that most of the buffanum are
- 19:53not the ones that you did have Rafa.
- 19:55Most of the befanem are the original ones that are already
- 19:58passed Arla. But I feel a bit crummishy.
- 20:01Do a vaade shesh baham Arla. Even in a camera where you know
- 20:05that there is Arla in them. They do this Havraha thing Yesh
- 20:08bahat serum. You can still be Montier the the
- 20:12the wine, the grapes that come out of them.
- 20:14Mishum de kadam shayab do al ham sheng Arla enemos in Paris.
- 20:19Because the the fruit of our early years are not high
- 20:23quality, they're not good fruits.
- 20:25And so you're much less likely to get wine from those fruits.
- 20:29And so, since we have most of the most of the vines are good
- 20:33and we have that, even if this is from a if it's not likely to
- 20:38be from one of on top of that, it's not likely to be wine from
- 20:42the fruits of one of the ones that they did do of our hope,
- 20:44which is Barla, because those fruits typically you can't make
- 20:48wine from they're not good enough to do that.
- 20:50Then Osam hang Doc in the pollution.
- 20:52And if they do that, the the grapes would be thin and and and
- 20:55weak in poor quality Sham Rui and Las Mahem Yayin.
- 20:58So maybe this last point would only apply to wine.
- 21:01It would not apply to grapes, but the, the grapes of, of such
- 21:07Havraha vines would not be good enough quality to make wine from
- 21:13Yerfes. This one is very practical and
- 21:16we're going to probably end with this.
- 21:20It's very practical about Arlebus monaze, You, you live in
- 21:23Aaron Cesarol. You buy a tree and you plant it.
- 21:26Do you have to start the clock all over again?
- 21:30So Ilan Schnitzatz, the Hazar, the Godal Mahasharaj a a tree
- 21:36that was chopped down and then it was planted again.
- 21:41And I'm I'm sorry, no, that's not the case yet because of a
- 21:44gobble mash Arash a a tree that was that was chopped down and
- 21:47then from the stump a new tree grew out and Ohio, you do not
- 21:53have to restart Arlov from the original stump.
- 21:57LMK Nixas me al aras. Unless it was cut down till the
- 22:01ground it was cut down. It's flush with the ground.
- 22:05So then it would you, the clock would start again.
- 22:08But if you left something there, if you left some real stump,
- 22:11anything that grow a new tree that grows out of that the the
- 22:15fruits of that tree that grow that grows out of the stump.
- 22:17You do not have to you do not have to tree like Carlo the
- 22:19first three years, Omar and LON Meshachusita.
- 22:23But if you cut it down literally down to the ground and then a
- 22:27new tree grew up, then you would count to three years from when
- 22:31you chopped down the original tree travel and Nishamimenu
- 22:34Kolshu Pater. But if anything was left, he the
- 22:39Mahavir says a Kolshu. The Shah says that the rush
- 22:42holds that there's a Tefhoff that that if it's a tefhoff
- 22:45above the ground. But if there's anything left of
- 22:48the stump, any, any recognizable amount of the stump.
- 22:51So then new fruits that grow out of that stump or Pata.
- 22:54Now you tested the one I was talking about Ilan Shah Akro
- 22:57Ruaf, a tree which was blown down in a tornado oh shark von
- 23:03Nohar or it was uprooted in a flood.
- 23:07The whole just yesterday there was a a flood in in Asia.
- 23:11Then you can see the trees being knocked in oh shark von Nohar,
- 23:15the holy kola Mokum afer and then the winds or the flood
- 23:20deposited it someplace else. And this is this is key.
- 23:24We may have afar Shasvid Sharashov emo now when it was
- 23:30uprooted, some dirt was taken together with its roots, the
- 23:35host of all of sham afar. But wherever it was deposited,
- 23:39there was more dirt there thanish rasham bharats and then
- 23:43it took root in that new place. Omdem OSO we make an umdna, we
- 23:49evaluate it IM hayafalithios bafar Hari shown if there was
- 23:54enough dirt amongst its roots from its first uprooting Sheba
- 24:01IMO blotos afar affair where that original dirt without
- 24:06counting the addition of the additional earth where it was
- 24:09deposited hi Razak and the two of them como upatur meha arlo.
- 24:14So if there was enough dirt, then that's considered like it
- 24:17was still from its first place because there was enough earth
- 24:21taken with it from its first place.
- 24:23So then you do not restart the clock then lav if there was not
- 24:27enough dirt amongst its roots when it was uprooted and not
- 24:31only because of the dirt in the new place that it was deposited,
- 24:34it's able to grow. Then high of the clock restarts
- 24:37again and you have to count 3 years from when it was
- 24:40replanted. This is very practical.
- 24:43This monazet when you buy a when you buy a tree from from a from
- 24:50a nursery, it comes with enough dirt that it should that it
- 24:55should be able to survive. That is not really in question.
- 24:59The question is, did it pass over something which considers
- 25:04it disconnected from the ground? That's so you will find that
- 25:10some posts can say that if you buy something from from the
- 25:14nursery and you replant it, you if it was, let's say a year in
- 25:17the nursery, you can count that year.
- 25:18You only have to do another two years.
- 25:20And there are others that say, well, how are you?
- 25:21How are you transporting it to your hat, to your home to plant
- 25:24it in your garden? If you took it in a car, well,
- 25:27then there is, you know, between the, the mat on the floor and
- 25:35the metal of the car and the tar of the road, whatever there
- 25:38that's considered a Hesse. So that whole time it was
- 25:40disconnected from the ground. But the the Icker, the the main
- 25:44point that we're learning from this Sif is that there if there
- 25:46is enough ground the whole time in the case that we saw on mute
- 25:51test where Chakfonar or Akro Haruah there it was amongst, you
- 25:57know, natural places where it could have grown the whole time.
- 26:00We'll stop here.