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The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives Cult Is Back · The conspiracy

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Speaker 1: happy you're here to watch this video that nobody asked for.
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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to my YouTube channel. And
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Speaker 1: welcome to my YouTube channel. I'm calling me Chris. You
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Speaker 1: can call me Chris. And today we're gonna be reviewing
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Speaker 1: a show. Do I do this often? Pretty much never,
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Speaker 1: but I have done this once before and it was
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Speaker 1: season one of the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives that's
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Speaker 1: right here. And it does kind of fall under my
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Speaker 1: crime conspiracy, cults, and murder a little bit. It's not
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Speaker 1: gonna be, you know, a like a murder podcast, but
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Speaker 1: it falls under it. Okay, So I'm counting it because
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Speaker 1: this technically does involve, you know, conspiracies. Some of the
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Speaker 1: women say, you know, it's a bit culty, and there's
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Speaker 1: definitely some crime happening here too. So I'm just basically
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Speaker 1: saying all of this to give me an excuse for
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Speaker 1: watching trash television. Okay, And if you've watched it, great
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Speaker 1: or sorry. And if you haven't, but you're interested in
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Speaker 1: some Mormon Wives drama because it's pretty juicy and it's funny.
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Speaker 1: Then buckle up because I'm literally just gonna rampage through
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Speaker 1: this and give you all of the tea. Before we
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Speaker 1: I appreciate your guys is patience. Man. I'm excited really
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Speaker 1: good things. But anyway, let's get back to the video.
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Speaker 1: If you guys want more of an in depth recap
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Speaker 1: of season one, you can go to this video first
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Speaker 1: if you want. If not, I'm going to kind of
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Speaker 1: recap Season one really quickly, just so we're all on
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Speaker 1: the same page. Okay, So Season two of The Secret
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Speaker 1: Lives of Mormon Wives premiered on Thursday, May fifteenth on Hulu.
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Speaker 1: They're in direct competition with Keeping Up with the Kardashians,
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Speaker 1: and for a minute the show was actually doing even
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Speaker 1: better than them, So it's kind of crazy to think about.
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Speaker 1: But anyway, the Hulu description of the show is the
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Speaker 1: scandalous world of a grip of Mormon mom influencers and
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Speaker 1: plots when they get caught in the midst of a
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Speaker 1: swinging scandal that makes international headlines. Now their sisterhood is
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Speaker 1: shook to its core. Faith, friendship, and reputations are all
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Speaker 1: on the line. Will hashtag mom talk be able to
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Speaker 1: survive and continue to give the rule book of Benford's money,
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Speaker 1: or with the group fall from grace spoiler alert, their
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Speaker 1: shit falls from grace and hits the mother fan. Okay,
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Speaker 1: it's crazy that part of the reason going over this
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Speaker 1: is because I am on TikTok Okay, so I've seen
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Speaker 1: these women before and the whole scandal thing, the swinger
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Speaker 1: scandal thing, which was just Chris and I'm a woman
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Speaker 1: and I just like drama. Okay, my life is pretty
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Speaker 1: boring without drama lately, which I'm not complaining about, but
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Speaker 1: I seek it in television like a lot of people do.
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Speaker 1: But I think a little breakdown of what Mormonism is
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Speaker 1: is important as well. So I'm going to do a
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Speaker 1: really quick one again if you want to go to
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Speaker 1: this video, I do a massive breakdown of Mormonisms. I
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Speaker 1: think it's pretty interesting. But here's the cliff notes. So,
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Speaker 1: Mormonism is a common nickname for the Church of Jesus
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Speaker 1: Christ of the Latter day Saints aka the LDS Church,
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Speaker 1: and people in the church are often called Mormons, but
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Speaker 1: they do prefer Latter Day Saints or LDS members, at
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Speaker 1: least the serious ones do, and the term Mormon comes
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Speaker 1: from the Book of Mormon, one of the main religious
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Speaker 1: texts alongside the Bible, and their core beliefs are God
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Speaker 1: is seen as a personal, loving Father and Jesus Christ
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Speaker 1: is central to everything, and they believe in his teachings,
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Speaker 1: his atonement, and his resurrection. But what kind of splits
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Speaker 1: them from Christianity is that they believe in modern day
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Speaker 1: profits who receive ongoing revelations from God like voicemails on
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Speaker 1: your phone from God just giving you updates basically, and
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Speaker 1: they also believe that families are forever and marriage and
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Speaker 1: family are sacred and eternal. So even if you split
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Speaker 1: from someone, technically the wife is still attached to the husband,
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Speaker 1: but the husband can split off, and like if they
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Speaker 1: die and then they go to heaven, then the man
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Speaker 1: will technically have like multiple wives and he'll be like
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Speaker 1: a sister wife in heaven. It's there's interesting stuff. Again.
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Speaker 1: I go into more detail in my last video. But anyway,
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Speaker 1: and ess actually everyone is responsible for doing good, being
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Speaker 1: self reliant and helping others. You know, some good values
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Speaker 1: in there. And the overall church life is that everyone
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Speaker 1: pitches in that members are asked to take roles like teaching, leading,
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Speaker 1: or helping others, and only men can hold priesthood. But
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Speaker 1: the women do have leadership roles and equal spiritual responsibilities.
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Speaker 1: But in watching the show and in knowing some Mormons,
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Speaker 1: the equal is not not the term i'd use. And
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Speaker 1: popular practices are missionary work, temple worship, family history research,
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Speaker 1: and family home evening which is like a weekly family knight,
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Speaker 1: which I mean I had weekly family nights. I think
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Speaker 1: that's great. And what they tend to avoid is no coffee, tea, alcohol, tobacco,
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Speaker 1: or drugs, and instead they just drink swig. Utah is
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Speaker 1: just like they love their pop or soda. They're just
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Speaker 1: like soda heads because that's the only thing that they
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Speaker 1: can drink. So it's just like simple syrup through the
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Speaker 1: roof in Utah. And they value modesty, clean living and
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Speaker 1: staying actually pure and tell marriage. But some things have
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Speaker 1: changed through revelation, such as polygamy, which is having more
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Speaker 1: than one spouse, and that was ended in eighteen ninety
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Speaker 1: and in nineteen seventy eight, the priesthood was open to
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Speaker 1: all worthy men, regardless of race. So back in the
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Speaker 1: day it was pits, it was sketchy, and the church
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Speaker 1: can evolve and they believe that God continues to guide
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Speaker 1: them through modern profits. Basically leaving the message on the phone,
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Speaker 1: basically being like, hey, actually we're gonna switch things up, okay,
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Speaker 1: tell everybody on earth. And that is like a very
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Speaker 1: simple recap. Also, no hate to anybody that's Mormon. I'm
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Speaker 1: just trying to put this in like Layman's terms for
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Speaker 1: people basically, So here's the little recap of season one
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Speaker 1: so basically, a loosely connected group of Mormon momfluencers gained
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Speaker 1: notoriety in twenty twenty two after their prominent member, Taylor
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Speaker 1: Frankie Paul She's Like the Queen Bee, the leader of
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Speaker 1: the group, sparked a major scandal, which is basically her
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Speaker 1: publicly revealing that she and several others had participated in
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Speaker 1: soft swinging, which, if you don't know what that is,
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Speaker 1: it basically refers to couples engaging sexual activity with each
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Speaker 1: other's partners without full sexual intercourse soft swinging, and it
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Speaker 1: shocked everybody because apparently it's not that taboo in the
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Speaker 1: community now that everybody does it. I'm not saying everybody
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Speaker 1: does it, but it's it's it is known, And even
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Speaker 1: before the controversy erupted, the group's manager had already been
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Speaker 1: pitching their lifestyle as a potential reality TV series, and
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Speaker 1: once the scandal broke, a deal was swiftly finalized. It's
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Speaker 1: giving Kim Kardashian's sex tape and keeping up with the Kardashians,
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Speaker 1: But It's fine. But despite its somewhat provocative beginnings, the
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Speaker 1: series quickly attracted viewers by providing and entertaining occasionally perplexing
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Speaker 1: window into the everyday world of Utah's Latter Day Saints community,
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Speaker 1: albeit a very dramatized version or maybe not. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: This is their lives, you know, And I think that's
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Speaker 1: where the Mormon Church kind of comes in. And they
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Speaker 1: don't appreciate the show that much. Needless to say, they
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Speaker 1: don't like the show because they think it represents them
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Speaker 1: in a bad way. And in one memorable two part episode,
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Speaker 1: for instance, in the first season, the moms gathered for
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Speaker 1: like a Cocktail Hour inspired soda party where drink specialists
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Speaker 1: just concocted customized non alcoholic beverages, playfully nodding to the
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Speaker 1: Mormon prohibition on alcohol. But then the episode just casually
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Speaker 1: pivots into surprising revelations like several of the women get
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Speaker 1: regular botox together purely to enjoy the laughing gas, which
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Speaker 1: is crazy, and two others admitted that they'd attend joint
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Speaker 1: ketamine therapy sessions, so it's just all kind of crazy.
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Speaker 1: They're like the bad Mormons. So there are the sinners
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Speaker 1: and the Saints. Also, they kind of got labels. There's
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Speaker 1: like the good girls and the bad girls. The girls
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Speaker 1: I either like left the church or they have divorced.
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Speaker 1: That makes you a sinner, I guess. And then there's
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Speaker 1: the Saints who still regularly attend church, still wear you know, garments,
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Speaker 1: and I don't know, are like true Mormons, I guess.
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Speaker 1: But let's go over the season one cast. First, we
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Speaker 1: have Taylor Frankie Paul basically their queen. She's a leader
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Speaker 1: and founder of the group. She has the most followers,
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Speaker 1: and she kickstarted the soft Swinging scandal. And at season one,
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Speaker 1: the drama with her was that she was pregnant with
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Speaker 1: Dakota's baby and she was trying to figure out if
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Speaker 1: she wants to actually be with him or if she
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Speaker 1: should leave him. But she ends up having the baby.
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Speaker 1: But then there's cheating allegations at the end of the season,
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Speaker 1: and then there's Demi, and people just loved her by
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Speaker 1: the end of the show. She was like the hero
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Speaker 1: in the show and she was super empowering towards the
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Speaker 1: other girls. But that little weird thing about to me
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Speaker 1: is that she met her husband, Brett when she was
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Speaker 1: nine and he was twenty five, and he was also
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Speaker 1: having children and he was married at the time. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: shouldn't get married when she was nine. She got married
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Speaker 1: when she was a little older and of age. I legally,
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Speaker 1: but strange and nobody really talks about it, and I
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Speaker 1: find that a little strange. But by the end of
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Speaker 1: season one, everybody kind of thought that she would be
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Speaker 1: the new leader of the group potentially, but she was
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Speaker 1: clearly the fan favorite, and the drama started for season
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Speaker 1: two even before season two came out, because the poster
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Speaker 1: for season two came out into me was in the
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Speaker 1: back of the group poster. She was in that back,
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Speaker 1: right corner, left corner, whatever you're looking at, and people
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Speaker 1: were like, Wow, what's happening. She was a fan favorite.
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Speaker 1: Why is she in the back? Oh my god? She
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Speaker 1: just started to stir And by then I forgot everything
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Speaker 1: that happened. I had to recap season one. But we'll
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Speaker 1: get into that because to me, she flips the script
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Speaker 1: in season two. She's so bitch. Anyway, then we move
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Speaker 1: on to Jen Affleck. No, she's not related to Ben Affleck,
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Speaker 1: even though she claimed she was, and she basically had
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Speaker 1: her husband labeled as the worst husband of the season
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Speaker 1: because he was very controlling and rude. I don't think
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Speaker 1: he changes that much in season two, but a lot
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Speaker 1: of people are like, oh my god, he has a
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Speaker 1: redemption arc, but I think he's still kind of a
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Speaker 1: piece of shit. But anyway, the drama surrounding Jen is
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Speaker 1: that she kind of got dragged to a chippendale show
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Speaker 1: and her husband did not appreciate that at all, and
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Speaker 1: he was threatening to divorce her because she wasn't obeying
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Speaker 1: him and as a Mormon, wives are supposed to do
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Speaker 1: what their husbands say. Even though she didn't inherently do
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Speaker 1: anything like she shouldn't do anything. At the event, there
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Speaker 1: was just like dancers dancing, you know, and the text
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Speaker 1: messages are disturbing from that, but it just kind of
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Speaker 1: goes to show the dynamic between a lot of the
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Speaker 1: husbands and the wives, and just like the men and
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Speaker 1: women in general in this community. At least on the show,
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Speaker 1: there's like the men are up here and the woman
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Speaker 1: women are down here, and it's it's very hard to
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Speaker 1: watch sometimes, especially with z and Jen. But at the
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Speaker 1: end of the first season, Zach and Jen moved to
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Speaker 1: NYC because he is going to medical school, and she
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Speaker 1: kind of wanted to distance herselves from the girls because
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Speaker 1: she was a bit of an outcast. By the end
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Speaker 1: of the season. And then there's Jesse, who is just
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Speaker 1: like CEO, founder of jay z Hare girl boss basically,
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Speaker 1: and she was actually the instigator for the whole Chippendale
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Speaker 1: situation in season one, and she's like a bad girl.
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Speaker 1: She's like one of the center bad girls. And then
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Speaker 1: there's Leyla, who joined the Mormon church at sixteen, married
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Speaker 1: at nineteen, got divorced at twenty one, and had two
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Speaker 1: kids in there all together, which is crazy to me
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Speaker 1: but not uncommon in the community, and not much happened
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Speaker 1: during season one for her. She was kind of a
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Speaker 1: background character, but her big thing in season one is
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Speaker 1: that she has never climaxed. I'm sorry, but yeah, anyway.
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Speaker 1: And then there's Macy, who's just kind of friends with
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Speaker 1: everyone and called out Taylor's man for his shitty behavior.
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Speaker 1: She's a girl's girl, and at the end of season
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Speaker 1: one she's on the phone with Jenna, who's a woman
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Speaker 1: who claimed to be involved with Taylor Frankie Pol's baby
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Speaker 1: daddy while he was first seeing Taylor. So as we
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Speaker 1: know that at the end of the season, Taylor's man,
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Speaker 1: Dakota was known to potentially be cheating, and we get
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Speaker 1: those answers in season two. And then there's Mikayla. She
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Speaker 1: was married at sixteen and her husband was twenty one.
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Speaker 1: Apparently that's legal where they're from. And she was also
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Speaker 1: kind of a background character in season one, and she
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Speaker 1: was the one that had the birthday where Whitney showed
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Speaker 1: up unannounced and that was like the most awkward drama
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Speaker 1: ever and seemed super scripted. And then Whitney Levitt, she's
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Speaker 1: like the antagonist. She's like the villain in season one,
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Speaker 1: and she is kind of in season two as well.
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Speaker 1: But she was the one that went viral for dancing
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Speaker 1: with her sick RSV baby in the hospital. Here's a clip,
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Speaker 1: just so so off color. And the first season, her
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Speaker 1: husband had a tender account that she found and that
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Speaker 1: was all really awkward, and some people thought that he
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Speaker 1: might be gay also, and it was a whole thing.
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Speaker 1: And they decided during that season whether they were going
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Speaker 1: to stay together or not, and they ended up staying together.
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Speaker 1: And she also missed a mom Talk event, which ruffled
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Speaker 1: everyone's feathers, and then she showed up at another event,
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Speaker 1: which was the birthday party that she wasn't invited to,
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Speaker 1: which also ruffled feathers. And at the end of the season,
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Speaker 1: she was still like the overall villain. And that's when
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Speaker 1: we get to season two. Lad, that's over. So season
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Speaker 1: two it starts, and the intro is just it's crazy.
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Speaker 1: It basically it opens on the girls praying and then
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Speaker 1: it kind of intercuts between them like swearing and just
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Speaker 1: doing crazy shit. It's like our Father, yet it's like
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Speaker 1: art in Heaven. That's not exactly how it got. I
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Speaker 1: can't remember what the prayers were, but it was very funny.
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Speaker 1: I was laughing immediately, so I appreciate that this is
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Speaker 1: probably when I should have just turned the show off,
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Speaker 1: but I was. I was already committed. I was already
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Speaker 1: in it, and I did it for you, so like
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Speaker 1: the video, Please God. But the season overall felt a
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Speaker 1: bit more surface level, like most of the girls were
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Speaker 1: really just looking to become more famous in the season
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Speaker 1: than they already were, and it just kind of showed
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Speaker 1: through like gripptid type drama to make it seem more entertaining.
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Speaker 1: I guess it just seemed like it wasn't not that
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Speaker 1: the first season was serious in any way, but they
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Speaker 1: did touch on some like important topics, and it's not
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Speaker 1: that they didn't touch on important topics in this one,
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Speaker 1: but I felt like everything was up here, like if
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Speaker 1: they got deep with anything, they didn't stay there and
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Speaker 1: it just went back up here. Like there's a moment
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Speaker 1: when one of the other girls goes to therapy and
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Speaker 1: she's going about like experiences she had when she was
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Speaker 1: a little kid and like getting abusion that they didn't
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Speaker 1: go anywhere with that, and it just kind of cut
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Speaker 1: out and was like, Okay, we were actually getting somewhere there,
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Speaker 1: and then they just didn't do anything. Mostly it's just
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Speaker 1: about caddy bullshit the whole time. Season one at least
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Speaker 1: had some substance. It was like it was like a nice,
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Speaker 1: hearty soup, and then season two was like like a
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Speaker 1: lukewarm diet coke from Swig. It was just a huge
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Speaker 1: giant hair extension measuring contests, which is figuratively and for real,
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Speaker 1: because it seems like everyone had something tweak to smiage
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Speaker 1: in this season, whether it's like more filler, more hair,
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Speaker 1: or more surgery. Everybody's like slowly morphing into this same person,
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Speaker 1: which is fine, like do you whatever makes you feel
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Speaker 1: better about yourself, But I feel like I'm watching a
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Speaker 1: knockoff of Keeping Up with our Kardashians or like a
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Speaker 1: who could look more plastic competition rather than a Mormon
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Speaker 1: wives reality show. And it's just hard because, like, I'm
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Speaker 1: all for women feeling their best, but in this situation,
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Speaker 1: I think it's just more of the need for these
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Speaker 1: women to feel like they need to, like one help
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Speaker 1: each other in the show, and they need to fit
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Speaker 1: this impossible beauty standard that's already in society, but I
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Speaker 1: think it's extremely prominent in the Mormon community that everybody
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Speaker 1: needs to look a certain way. So that's why they
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Speaker 1: all literally look like the same person. And don't get
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Speaker 1: me started on how much money that costs. I can't
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Speaker 1: even like hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep that up.
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Speaker 1: So it's like hair extensions, botox, any type of surgery,
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Speaker 1: fillers like. It all adds up. So it's just just
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Speaker 1: kind of crazy. And then you know, little girls watching it,
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Speaker 1: they're like, oh, I gotta look like that. It's just
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Speaker 1: it's not good. Meanwhile, the men can all just go
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Speaker 1: to fucking super cuts, get a number four, and be
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Speaker 1: good to go. But just with the overall pressure of
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Speaker 1: fame and looking a certain way in their community, it
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Speaker 1: seems that it has become just all encompassing for these
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Speaker 1: women to be as hot as possible. And that's that's
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Speaker 1: where the where, it's where the second season lies for me.
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Speaker 1: So with that, let's go over our season two cast
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Speaker 1: of lookalike Doublegangers. We have basically the same entire cast
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Speaker 1: with Taylor, Demi, Layla, Jen, Mikayla, Macey Whitney, and Jesse.
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Speaker 1: And then we have a new cast member who will
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Speaker 1: fit into the fold, and that is Miranda McCord. And
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Speaker 1: she said that she basically swerved the first season of
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Speaker 1: The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives as she didn't want
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Speaker 1: her divorce to play out on TV. She was going
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Speaker 1: through divorce during the filming of it, and overall in
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Speaker 1: the second season she was she was pretty much like
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Speaker 1: a sweet character. But we'll get into it, Okay, let's
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Speaker 1: just let's just dive in, and I'm just going to
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Speaker 1: give recaps of the episodes of the drama and give
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Speaker 1: you my opinions. But anyway, we open all the premiere
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Speaker 1: and that is Gracie Lou Cowboy Pillows Influencer Event and
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Speaker 1: no it is not a pillow fight party. It quite
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Speaker 1: literally means pillows as in a euphemism for boobs and butts.
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Speaker 1: God's like yeah, so the mom's straddle mechanical bulls. Also
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Speaker 1: while analyzing the brand health of hashtag mom Talk, and
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Speaker 1: that's when Whitney enters. She's pregnant and kind of out
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Speaker 1: of sync with everything, and at this point she's missed
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Speaker 1: Taylor's baby shower, and she's ghosted Macy's brand launch, and
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Speaker 1: she has raged quit the group chat. So everybody's just
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Speaker 1: kind of like no, But is always the line between
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Speaker 1: exiled mom talk and booked and busy is blurry when
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Speaker 1: your job is just being an influencer. So she kind
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Speaker 1: of like has to show up right because it's mom Talk,
17:47
Speaker 1: but the rest of the women look at her like
17:48
Speaker 1: she's committed to sacrilege by peeing in their soda. But
17:51
Speaker 1: Whitney's not the only chaos agent in this episode, because
17:55
Speaker 1: we meet Miranda the Newbie. So she was knee deep
17:58
Speaker 1: and that soft swinging scandal in the last season off
18:01
Speaker 1: camera obviously, and she's now divorced and rebranding and desperately
18:05
Speaker 1: trying to claw her way back into the inner circle,
18:08
Speaker 1: into the popular group, and her strategy is basically just
18:11
Speaker 1: to deny everything saying I've never touched a Wiener, not once.
18:15
Speaker 1: I don't know what that does, Okay, and Taylor is
18:17
Speaker 1: just exhausted from Dakota's last infidelity and treats Miranda like
18:22
Speaker 1: background noise. Basically speaking of Dakota, Taylor's baby daddy and
18:26
Speaker 1: secret liar. He's now been fully exposed thanks to the
18:30
Speaker 1: alliance between Taylor and his side chick Jenna. So the
18:33
Speaker 1: two women meet up and trade receipts and they cross
18:36
Speaker 1: reference timelines and text messages like FBI agents, which is
18:39
Speaker 1: kind of like girl Boss. I love that. And it
18:41
Speaker 1: turns out Dakota took Jenna to dinosaur museums and trampoline parks,
18:46
Speaker 1: which sounds more like babysitting than cheating, but it's still cheating,
18:51
Speaker 1: I guess, just like I don't know how to cheat
18:54
Speaker 1: or anything, but I don't think that's the best way
18:57
Speaker 1: to go about it. It's just weird. But the worst
19:00
Speaker 1: part is that he told Jenna he's only with Taylor
19:03
Speaker 1: for clout, which is like a huge, like hit to
19:06
Speaker 1: the face. Meanwhile, Zach Jen's a strange husband because they
19:09
Speaker 1: took several months off from each other after season one,
19:12
Speaker 1: and Zach actually didn't go to med school and he
19:14
Speaker 1: took a year off. Probably he probably just failed, in
19:17
Speaker 1: my opinion, And then he just shows up with a
19:20
Speaker 1: new haircut, a weekend bag, and some shitty carnations and
19:23
Speaker 1: just tries love bombing Jen, and Jen then just like
19:27
Speaker 1: lays out all the conditions, which is like empathy, equality,
19:30
Speaker 1: and freedom to go to Chippendale's without being threatened with divorce,
19:34
Speaker 1: you know, bottom of the barrel shit, and he reacts
19:37
Speaker 1: like she just asked him to self castraate with toenail clippers.
19:40
Speaker 1: Like it's it's so weird, like the dynamic between men
19:44
Speaker 1: and women in this specific community, at least the one
19:46
Speaker 1: that we're seeing on TV, is just it's so not equal.
19:50
Speaker 1: Like you'll see throughout all the episodes you see the
19:53
Speaker 1: men interacting with each other and them interacting with the women,
19:57
Speaker 1: and it is like so different, like they're always talking
20:00
Speaker 1: to little children. Like when the men talk to their
20:03
Speaker 1: wives or to any of the women, it's like you
20:05
Speaker 1: do this, you do that? Who what the fuck are
20:07
Speaker 1: you talking to a grown woman. It's just so awkward
20:10
Speaker 1: and weird, and it's hard to be like Jen, come
20:13
Speaker 1: on like a be a boss bitch, like it, but
20:15
Speaker 1: she's been conditioned her whole life to think that she is,
20:19
Speaker 1: you know, kind of lesser than a man like them.
20:21
Speaker 1: You have to obey your husband, you have to do
20:23
Speaker 1: whatever they say, and you will get looked down upon
20:26
Speaker 1: if you divorce your husband. So it's just a thing
20:28
Speaker 1: that plays out that is just on comfy in this
20:31
Speaker 1: episode and throughout the season, honestly. But elsewhere, Miranda sees
20:34
Speaker 1: an opportunity and pounces, attempting to recruit Whitney, and they
20:38
Speaker 1: kind of bond over being frost bitten and friendless, and
20:40
Speaker 1: Miranda invites the women to a happy hour at her house,
20:44
Speaker 1: hoping for some kind of comeback, but some of the
20:46
Speaker 1: girls headed to a haunted house fear factory, where they
20:49
Speaker 1: giggled about Miranda's obvious thirst for clout. It's just so mean.
20:52
Speaker 1: Girl's clickie bullshit. It's just it's like hard to watch.
20:55
Speaker 1: And the show just kind of continues to wrestle with
20:57
Speaker 1: its internal saint sinner bling system because Jesse and Demi
21:02
Speaker 1: are divorced, which makes them sinners, and Macy is widowed
21:05
Speaker 1: which makes her a saint, and Mikayla is ex Mormon,
21:08
Speaker 1: but she has good vibes, so that means she's a
21:10
Speaker 1: she's a saint of sinners. I have no idea, so
21:13
Speaker 1: the moral lines are just really blurred. But that's like
21:16
Speaker 1: just a pattern through the season. And then we're back
21:18
Speaker 1: to Taylor's place and things get worse because her mom,
21:21
Speaker 1: her mom drops in with a new note, basically a
21:24
Speaker 1: new face, but I guess it's just a new nose job,
21:26
Speaker 1: and she her mom's now morphing into one of them,
21:28
Speaker 1: and basically she just tells Taylor that she should have
21:31
Speaker 1: chosen better and that she should keep trying to make
21:33
Speaker 1: it work with Dakota, even though he cheated, albeit at
21:36
Speaker 1: a museum at a trampoline park, but it still counts.
21:39
Speaker 1: She just gets like gas lip by her mom and
21:41
Speaker 1: it's super awkward, and Taylor kind of pushes back, referencing
21:45
Speaker 1: her own abandonment issues, and there's just like this just
21:47
Speaker 1: generational divide between them. And then we go to a
21:51
Speaker 1: retreat Utah, the Jeded Zacharat, where they're getting kettymine couple's treatment,
21:55
Speaker 1: because apparently if it's okay with a doctor, then it's
21:58
Speaker 1: okay with God, which is convenient, and Zach claims that
22:02
Speaker 1: he's ready to grow that he's grown, and Jen's ego
22:06
Speaker 1: just like dissolves, and nausea kicks in, and somewhere a
22:09
Speaker 1: producer asks of Zach is going to apologize for being
22:11
Speaker 1: a misogynistic ass wipe reality TV at its finest, and
22:15
Speaker 1: as the episode ends, Dakota finally packs up and leaves
22:17
Speaker 1: Taylor's house after admitting to everything, including with sleeping with
22:22
Speaker 1: Jenna in Taylor's bed, which is what the disgusting disgusting,
22:27
Speaker 1: So I guess they didn't just go to an amusement
22:29
Speaker 1: park or whatever the fuck they did. And his farewell
22:31
Speaker 1: monologue is just soaked in guilt and hollow promises and
22:34
Speaker 1: just bullshit. And then we're back at Miranda's big retreat
22:38
Speaker 1: and the women gather just awkward and skeptical, and Macy
22:41
Speaker 1: cuts to the chase, asking Miranda what she actually wants.
22:45
Speaker 1: But before the real answers come, the episode hits hyperspeed
22:48
Speaker 1: and a teaser reel of what's to come, which is
22:50
Speaker 1: police run in secrets, betrayals, it's rubbing on people and
22:53
Speaker 1: more mom talk mountdowns, and that's what brings us to
22:56
Speaker 1: episode two. And I'm going to speed run these episodes
22:59
Speaker 1: because I know i know it's a lot. So we're
23:01
Speaker 1: back at Miranda's and she's just talking about all of
23:03
Speaker 1: her church guilt basically, and then Taylor brings up Miranda's ex,
23:07
Speaker 1: who's Chase. Remember Chase, and Chase confessed feelings for Taylor
23:13
Speaker 1: after Taylor told Chase about a ex dream that she
23:16
Speaker 1: had about him, which is so fucking weird and like
23:20
Speaker 1: something I feel like teenagers would do. It's like a
23:24
Speaker 1: dream about you. He's like, oh really, really, that's a hall,
23:27
Speaker 1: that's called a haunt, Like these are grown ups. These
23:29
Speaker 1: are grown ups. So Taylor offers a shitty apology for
23:33
Speaker 1: what happened and that she should have told her ahead
23:36
Speaker 1: of time when he confessed his feelings and everything. But
23:39
Speaker 1: then we're hit with the big surprise, and that that
23:42
Speaker 1: is that there's a Halloween party. There's gonna be a
23:44
Speaker 1: Halloween party at Jesse's house and everyone is invited from
23:48
Speaker 1: the Soft Swinging Scandal. What could go wrong? So now
23:51
Speaker 1: we're doing Halloween prep and Leila introduces her new boyfriend Cameron,
23:55
Speaker 1: who's a Mormon soccer coach, and her new boobs, which
23:59
Speaker 1: you know, slagh And meanwhile we hardcut to Zach Dakota
24:02
Speaker 1: and Jordan, who were basically washed up man children, and
24:05
Speaker 1: they're just spitting cereal back into bulls like these guys,
24:09
Speaker 1: these the men in this the men in the in
24:12
Speaker 1: this show no redeeming qualities like swig the pop shop,
24:17
Speaker 1: the soda shop should start offering free divorces with every
24:19
Speaker 1: soda purchase for these women, I swear to God. And
24:21
Speaker 1: then Dakota invites his friends fly Fishing to brood and
24:25
Speaker 1: fix things with Taylor. And then Zach meets with Demi
24:28
Speaker 1: and Jesse wearing matching trench coats like Mormon Charlie's angels
24:32
Speaker 1: and just fails to apologize and says Chippendale's made him
24:36
Speaker 1: look bad, which like, obviously it did. You were a
24:38
Speaker 1: literal psychopath to your wife. And then we go to
24:42
Speaker 1: Taylor's family barbecue. Oh my god, was this hard to
24:46
Speaker 1: watch because the family invited Dakota, Dakota her shitty manchild
24:52
Speaker 1: person who cheated on her at the trampoline park or whatever,
24:56
Speaker 1: and Taylor is just ambushed with blame at this party.
24:59
Speaker 1: It so like that line with them treating women and
25:03
Speaker 1: men the same, that there is no that is not
25:06
Speaker 1: a thing, like this is men and this is women
25:07
Speaker 1: and this is like a clear understanding of that. At
25:11
Speaker 1: this barbecue, Taylor's mom just just kept saying, like, keep
25:14
Speaker 1: trying with him even though he cheated on her, and
25:17
Speaker 1: the dad just called the relationship a foundation of shit
25:21
Speaker 1: and blamed her and like it, kept pointing his finger
25:24
Speaker 1: at Taylor, being like and it's like your fault and
25:27
Speaker 1: it's Meanwhile, Dakota's sitting there, the man who cheated on
25:30
Speaker 1: this guy's stepdaughter, and he's not getting any flack at all.
25:33
Speaker 1: It is so awkward. And then Taylor's brother suggests that
25:36
Speaker 1: she's not sacrificing enough, and the Dakota calls her sleepy
25:39
Speaker 1: for asking to hang out at night even though it
25:42
Speaker 1: takes two motherfucker okay, Like she's getting berated that she
25:47
Speaker 1: slept with Dakota so early, but Dakota is slept with
25:50
Speaker 1: her too, and the sister kind of comes through the
25:53
Speaker 1: weeds and offers like sound advice, like to separate and
25:56
Speaker 1: to do therapy and to get a new job or whatever.
25:59
Speaker 1: But then she dropped the fucking bond, like Satan's in
26:02
Speaker 1: your mind, and then I'm like, okay, well, just still winning.
26:04
Speaker 1: So Taylor was just getting like stoned at this family
26:07
Speaker 1: barbecue and it just sucked to watch. And then Zach
26:09
Speaker 1: and Jen kind of talk about everything that Zach was
26:12
Speaker 1: talking about with the other girls, and then Jen's kind
26:15
Speaker 1: of thrown resentment like confetti, and that's the whole thing.
26:18
Speaker 1: And then there's the Chippendale prep and mom talk womanhood spectrum,
26:23
Speaker 1: where to Me and Jesse hire a real Chippendale's dancer.
26:27
Speaker 1: Jason and the husband's are like taught to grind as
26:29
Speaker 1: a revenge gift for Jen, because I remember Jen I
26:32
Speaker 1: went to the Chippendale sing in the first season and
26:34
Speaker 1: Zach got really mad at her the husband so they're
26:37
Speaker 1: they're just like throwing gasoline on the fire right now
26:41
Speaker 1: because Jen and Zach are gonna be out this Halloween party,
26:43
Speaker 1: and now Demi and Jesse are bringing Chippendale's people like
26:46
Speaker 1: way to put your friend in like the most awkward situation,
26:49
Speaker 1: Like it's so so petty and weird and again like
26:53
Speaker 1: mean girly. I hate it. And then Whitney is who's
26:56
Speaker 1: just pregnant and unbothered shops for spooky onesies. She's just
26:59
Speaker 1: off at her world and I kind of love that
27:01
Speaker 1: for her. And then comes the Halloween chaos where the
27:03
Speaker 1: costumes have like Taylor as Kritchen Wieners from Mean Girls
27:07
Speaker 1: versus j Loo and Ben Affleck and Chase, who's Miranda's
27:10
Speaker 1: ex sex stream guy shows up just to stir the
27:14
Speaker 1: pot and he acts like pals around Dakota and he
27:17
Speaker 1: hints he may have slept with Taylor and he just
27:19
Speaker 1: overshares temple stories. But obviously the producers were loving it.
27:23
Speaker 1: And this is where like Taylor fumes as Dakota like
27:25
Speaker 1: fails to defend her at this point, and Chase is
27:28
Speaker 1: like this where Chase's like poking his finger and waving
27:30
Speaker 1: his finger and like demeaning any woman that he's talking to. Meanwhile,
27:34
Speaker 1: Brett and Jordan are getting oiled up for their Chip
27:36
Speaker 1: and Nails debut. But just before the male Stripper finale,
27:39
Speaker 1: police could arrived and Chase is accused of inappropriate touching,
27:43
Speaker 1: which was like if any I mean, we don't really
27:45
Speaker 1: have a good angle, but he like poked I think
27:47
Speaker 1: it was demi while he was like walking past. And
27:49
Speaker 1: then she's like, oh, he touched me, he man handled me.
27:52
Speaker 1: I can't remember what she said exactly, but it was
27:54
Speaker 1: as if he he like grabbed her threw over her shoulder,
27:57
Speaker 1: like slapped her ass or something. And then and then
27:59
Speaker 1: her husband got mad, ran out and was like, what
28:01
Speaker 1: did you do to my wife? And then they all
28:03
Speaker 1: they talk to each other and he was able to
28:05
Speaker 1: talk it down. It was just it was just really weird.
28:07
Speaker 1: And then we get into episode three, which he just
28:08
Speaker 1: picks up mid party with Taylor and Chase debating the
28:11
Speaker 1: extent of their past intimacy, and Layla bluntly tells Chase
28:14
Speaker 1: to just move on, signaling a push for emotional honesty
28:17
Speaker 1: and boundary setting. And then outside, Chase allegedly touched Demi,
28:21
Speaker 1: but again unclear footage, and they're able to like simmer
28:24
Speaker 1: everything down because Brent went after Chase because he touched
28:27
Speaker 1: to me, and he's just like, dude, I barely even
28:29
Speaker 1: touch and he's like all right, man. Like again, like
28:31
Speaker 1: the men talking to each other, it changes completely, Like
28:34
Speaker 1: when they're with the women, they're just like what did
28:35
Speaker 1: you do? What did you say? What did you And
28:37
Speaker 1: then they get the men to men, it's just like, oh, dude, yeah,
28:39
Speaker 1: I know, she's an idiot. It's just like and then
28:42
Speaker 1: inside Zach and Jen are confused, and then Jen is
28:45
Speaker 1: surrounded by shirtless dancers, something she previously approved technically, but
28:50
Speaker 1: Zach later uses against her and like her approval was
28:54
Speaker 1: her saying yes to something she didn't even understand, she
28:57
Speaker 1: didn't give consent for, and that's a big thing. And
28:58
Speaker 1: this season is like, oh, you didn't consent, or I
29:01
Speaker 1: did consent and this and this, and I don't think
29:03
Speaker 1: they know what consent means, because she didn't consent to
29:06
Speaker 1: having somebody grind their buck against her in front of
29:09
Speaker 1: her husband, which I just I can't believe these people
29:11
Speaker 1: are And then we go to Mikayla, and Halloween is
29:13
Speaker 1: pretty painful for Mikayla because it's the anniversary of disclosing
29:17
Speaker 1: her childhood seules, and she attends a therapy session with
29:20
Speaker 1: a trauma specialist and they basically roleplay exercises focusing on
29:24
Speaker 1: reclaiming power, and the scene is super raw and emotional
29:27
Speaker 1: and underscores the contrast between influencer life and private trauma,
29:31
Speaker 1: but they don't go into it enough, like I'm like, Wow,
29:33
Speaker 1: this is like the first thing that's happening that actually
29:36
Speaker 1: we're feeling something, we're learning something, and she's being very
29:39
Speaker 1: vulnerable and I feel like it's just not looked into enough,
29:42
Speaker 1: you know, and then we go back to service level shit.
29:44
Speaker 1: Whitney has her baby at some point in this episode,
29:47
Speaker 1: and then Taylor confronts Miranda about her true extent of
29:49
Speaker 1: her role in the swinging scandal, and Taylor just kind
29:52
Speaker 1: of outlines all the problematic behavior like xax in close proximity, blinded,
29:56
Speaker 1: folded games, suggested content on camera, and Miranda and accepts accountability,
30:01
Speaker 1: which is, you know, how big, and they kind of
30:03
Speaker 1: just reconcile quietly, which kind of like cements Miranda's re
30:07
Speaker 1: entry into mom talk. And then Whitney invites Taylor and
30:09
Speaker 1: Macy over to see her newborn and they kind of
30:12
Speaker 1: like reconcile, but Taylor and Macy are like remain cautious
30:15
Speaker 1: with it. And then we move on to another deeper
30:18
Speaker 1: part of this season that I think was really raw
30:21
Speaker 1: and emotional and probably the most interesting thing in season two,
30:25
Speaker 1: which is Jen's pregnancy reveal. So Jen, it takes a
30:28
Speaker 1: pregnancy test after being ten days late, and it's positive,
30:31
Speaker 1: but her reaction is just fear and sadness and just
30:36
Speaker 1: not joyful at all when she reveals it to Zach,
30:40
Speaker 1: her piece of shit husband, and she basically just questions
30:43
Speaker 1: her future and her marriage, and the moment is just
30:47
Speaker 1: deeply vulnerable and very emotionally charged, and she just says
30:51
Speaker 1: she doesn't feel ready to bring a child into this marriage,
30:53
Speaker 1: especially since it's so rocky, and she says, I should
30:56
Speaker 1: be happy looking at this, but I'm not. I'm really scared.
30:59
Speaker 1: And it's just very raw and I think very real
31:01
Speaker 1: for some women. So I did you know. I didn't
31:04
Speaker 1: like this part of the episode, but I appreciated it,
31:07
Speaker 1: I guess. And Jen falls into a depression and is
31:10
Speaker 1: basically friendless at this point too, Like nobody's there to
31:13
Speaker 1: support chin, and I feel so bad for her. Like
31:16
Speaker 1: there's a moment that we get into where Whitney comes
31:18
Speaker 1: and visits and kind of helps her out, but like
31:21
Speaker 1: literally all the women are just are just caddy fucking
31:23
Speaker 1: bitches when Jen's going through it, and they all know
31:26
Speaker 1: that she's in a super super toxic relationship and that
31:30
Speaker 1: now she's having a baby with this man who's super toxic.
31:33
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's just really really sad. And that's
31:36
Speaker 1: what brings us to episode four, where Leayla and her
31:39
Speaker 1: new boyfriend Cameron share a kiss on the ferris wheel
31:42
Speaker 1: and Cameron was raised Mormon and his father was a bishop,
31:45
Speaker 1: and he's just now considering trying like alcohol and edibles,
31:48
Speaker 1: and Layla realizes that they actually may not be compatible
31:51
Speaker 1: because of this, and then Layla vulnerably admits that she
31:55
Speaker 1: may die without ever experiencing an orgasm. She still hasn't
31:58
Speaker 1: had an orgasm. I feel so bad for this queet.
32:01
Speaker 1: This just kind of signals her evolution and desire for
32:04
Speaker 1: deeper intimacy despite fear, and it just kind of amplifies
32:07
Speaker 1: the fact that women it just doesn't matter how women
32:10
Speaker 1: feel in these relationships as much as it does the man. Again,
32:13
Speaker 1: it's just highlighting the not so good part of this basically.
32:18
Speaker 1: And then Macy drops a bomb that Brett actually cheated
32:20
Speaker 1: on to me while she was away, and the whole
32:23
Speaker 1: group is like visibly unsettled, and it's really awkward, and
32:26
Speaker 1: especially given to Me's status as like the brand focused leader,
32:30
Speaker 1: she's like the clean brand chick. And then the conversation
32:32
Speaker 1: kind of shifts to Jen and Zach, and Jen's line
32:35
Speaker 1: that Zach allows her to be herself and this just
32:38
Speaker 1: kind of raises red flags about autonomy and control again,
32:42
Speaker 1: and then Brett Jordan and Zach hit the range as
32:45
Speaker 1: some dudes due to decompress because life's really hard as
32:48
Speaker 1: a dude. And then Zach falsely suggests that Jen's Chippendale's
32:52
Speaker 1: moment bordered on assault. It just contradicts her consent. And
32:56
Speaker 1: then they joke about launching dad talk, missing the emotional
32:59
Speaker 1: labor that powers mom talk. There's just like just tone
33:03
Speaker 1: deaf idiots. Basically, Taylor and Dakota end up actually going
33:06
Speaker 1: to therapy and dramatic editing underscores the fragility of their progress,
33:11
Speaker 1: and Dakota apologizes sincerely, but it's like familiar territory with
33:15
Speaker 1: no follow through guaranteed basically, and then to Me hosts
33:18
Speaker 1: this like sex coach party thing where they do like
33:21
Speaker 1: blindfolded sensory exploration and this kind of helps Leyla because
33:25
Speaker 1: Leila's one struggling with her own intimacy, so that's like nice.
33:28
Speaker 1: And then the group does a truth box where they
33:31
Speaker 1: all put like anonymous confessions into this truth box and
33:34
Speaker 1: then pull them out. Why the are we doing this
33:36
Speaker 1: as adults? This seems crazy? But then one note says
33:39
Speaker 1: that Jen is fake, all of them knowing like where
33:42
Speaker 1: she is in life and what's happening and how she's
33:44
Speaker 1: extremely upset about her marriage and having a baby, all
33:47
Speaker 1: this stuff, and then tension spikes immediately, and then we
33:50
Speaker 1: get into episode five, and the episode just opens on
33:53
Speaker 1: the aftermath of the anonymous truth box message of I
33:56
Speaker 1: think Jen is fake. Also there was a smiley face
33:58
Speaker 1: next to it, which is and then Jen just breaks
34:01
Speaker 1: down in tears, and then Whitney at this point extends
34:03
Speaker 1: in Olive Branch and invites the group to her newborn's
34:05
Speaker 1: baby shower for baby Billy, which reminds me of the
34:08
Speaker 1: show Righteous Gemstones, which the character of Walton Goggins is
34:12
Speaker 1: uncle baby Billy. This guy. If you haven't watched us,
34:14
Speaker 1: you should watch a show. If you like this this show,
34:17
Speaker 1: you're gonna love this show. Okay, go watch it because
34:19
Speaker 1: it's really funny. But anyway, and Miranda suspects that Demi, Mikayla, Layla,
34:23
Speaker 1: and Jesse were the ones behind that message in the
34:25
Speaker 1: truth box about Jen. So there's like fractures happening in
34:28
Speaker 1: the group left and right, and then Jesse and de
34:30
Speaker 1: Me opt out of Whitney's baby shower that she invited
34:32
Speaker 1: everybody to, and they plan Habatchi dinner instead claiming it's
34:36
Speaker 1: not about Whitney, it's about not supporting Jen, which is
34:40
Speaker 1: wild again, Like they know that she's struggling with this
34:44
Speaker 1: relationship so much, and they like go out of their
34:46
Speaker 1: way to plan a dinner to hurt someone else. I'm
34:50
Speaker 1: not Mormon or anything, but I don't think God loll
34:53
Speaker 1: appreciates that behavior. And then Jen just breaks down and
34:57
Speaker 1: tells Zach that she's overwhelmed and just constantly crying, and
35:00
Speaker 1: Zach dismiss his mom talk as all drama and questions
35:03
Speaker 1: its purpose, which I for once kind of agree with Zach,
35:07
Speaker 1: being like this, these are not people that love you,
35:09
Speaker 1: you know. It's like when does it start stop being
35:11
Speaker 1: friends and start being just business partners, not even business partners,
35:15
Speaker 1: like business competition. I still don't like Zach though, her
35:17
Speaker 1: piece of shit husband, and like, although he proves a
35:20
Speaker 1: point here, it it does still show Zach's continued emotional
35:24
Speaker 1: disconnect from Jen's reality because it is her life. And
35:27
Speaker 1: there's other fights all through this, like all the girls
35:30
Speaker 1: like have a fight about like this girl posted to
35:32
Speaker 1: this TikTok and it seemed like she's passive aggressively making
35:35
Speaker 1: fun of me. So I'm gonna go talk to this
35:37
Speaker 1: girl and she's gonna tell me other story. It's just
35:38
Speaker 1: so many fractures. I could literally be talking about this
35:41
Speaker 1: for hours. I'm gonna try not to, trying to focus
35:43
Speaker 1: on like the very main things, you know. And then
35:45
Speaker 1: at Whitney's baby shower, Jen tries to rebuild her relationship
35:49
Speaker 1: with Taylor, who asks her real issue is with Demi
35:52
Speaker 1: and Jen says, to me, let a man kiss her
35:54
Speaker 1: during a truth or Dare in Italy and Taylor is unimpressed,
35:58
Speaker 1: to say the least. And then Taylor reveals a rumor
36:00
Speaker 1: that Brett actually cheated on to me and this just
36:02
Speaker 1: causes a big shift in power dynamic and over at
36:06
Speaker 1: the Haabaci dinner, to Me, Jesse, Mikaela, and Laila discuss
36:09
Speaker 1: Jen versus Whitney, and the overall consensus is that Jen
36:12
Speaker 1: is manipulative, lies and plays the victim. And to Me
36:15
Speaker 1: vows that if Jen ever attacks her, like emotionally or whatever,
36:19
Speaker 1: she won't be subtle, and she says it'll be a bloodbath.
36:23
Speaker 1: Like to me, the fan favorite of season one and
36:26
Speaker 1: now season two is just like a vindictive, envious, jealous
36:31
Speaker 1: just focus only on solely on the money, like just
36:34
Speaker 1: kind of the main sinner of this season, Like she
36:37
Speaker 1: went downhill in my opinion, like she really showed her
36:40
Speaker 1: true colors. And then we're on episode six, and this
36:43
Speaker 1: is when Jen has her mental health crisis. So it's
36:46
Speaker 1: a travel day for the Girl's Scottsdale trip and Jen
36:49
Speaker 1: is just missing. So this is when Whitney goes to
36:52
Speaker 1: check up on her at home and finds that she's
36:54
Speaker 1: in an emotional crisis. And Jen just confesses that she
36:57
Speaker 1: had thoughts of not wanting to be alive again. It's
37:00
Speaker 1: like very emotional and very real and raw and just
37:03
Speaker 1: really hard to watch. And I'm really glad that the
37:05
Speaker 1: show decided to stop filming Jen because it's just not
37:09
Speaker 1: good for her. She's clearly not in a good place.
37:11
Speaker 1: And then all the other moms arrive on a party
37:13
Speaker 1: bus and they're all just asking about Jen, and then
37:16
Speaker 1: Whitney shares, with Jen's permission, that Jen is actually pregnant,
37:20
Speaker 1: because they didn't know at this point that she was pregnant.
37:22
Speaker 1: I don't know if I said that before, but they
37:23
Speaker 1: knew that she was struggling in her relationship, they didn't
37:25
Speaker 1: actually know that she was pregnant as well, not that
37:27
Speaker 1: that excuses all this shitty behavior, in my opinion, even
37:30
Speaker 1: with that information, the group just reacts with like cold
37:33
Speaker 1: detachment saying. Macy says, well, they don't protect, they never protect,
37:37
Speaker 1: and Layla jokes that it's a band aid baby, which
37:42
Speaker 1: I don't know. They're just mean girls. It's just a
37:44
Speaker 1: big mean girls thing. And then Whitney is just stunned
37:46
Speaker 1: by their lack of compassion despite shared experiences with pregnancy
37:50
Speaker 1: and depression, like all of these women have gone through
37:52
Speaker 1: very similar things like with their growing up and having
37:55
Speaker 1: to have babies really really early and not really understanding
37:59
Speaker 1: like is the who I am? They didn't really have
38:01
Speaker 1: a time to figure out who they are before they
38:03
Speaker 1: had babies, So the fact that they share no sympathy
38:05
Speaker 1: for Jen is just again just mean girly like clickie.
38:08
Speaker 1: It's weird. And then the girls turned back to the
38:10
Speaker 1: truth box and Jesse admits that she has photo proof
38:14
Speaker 1: of her husband's anatomy and to me insists Brett couldn't
38:17
Speaker 1: cheat and they've only been a part for five days total.
38:20
Speaker 1: Five day you can cheat in five days, That's I've
38:23
Speaker 1: heard of worse, and Whitney defends missing Macy's launch, saying
38:26
Speaker 1: it led to personal growth and to me, considered ousting
38:29
Speaker 1: Jesse for mom Talk to get better contract deals because
38:33
Speaker 1: she said, like, Jesse already makes so much money with
38:36
Speaker 1: her with her hair business, she doesn't need to make
38:38
Speaker 1: any more money. We need to make more money. I
38:40
Speaker 1: need to make more money, so she should just be
38:42
Speaker 1: out of this. So she's basically shitting on Jesse, who's
38:44
Speaker 1: supposed to be her best friend, and like, meanwhile, Jesse's
38:49
Speaker 1: just being girl boss like trying to make as much
38:51
Speaker 1: money as possible and get brand deals. It's not her
38:53
Speaker 1: fault that she's on the show, so to me, is
38:55
Speaker 1: just like just showing all kinds agreed and her true colors.
39:00
Speaker 1: And after this is when Jen Is announced that she
39:02
Speaker 1: has stepped away, which I'm glad because Jen just needs
39:06
Speaker 1: to focus on her mental health. And then there's a
39:08
Speaker 1: pickleball event and Whitney just shifts attention off drama with
39:12
Speaker 1: Mikayla by reignetting Demi and Jesse contract tension that we
39:17
Speaker 1: knew about before, how Demi wanted to kick Jesse out
39:20
Speaker 1: to get more money. And then Taylor calls Demi out saying,
39:23
Speaker 1: why do you think you deserve the biggest brand deals.
39:25
Speaker 1: And then Demi calls herself a fan favorite and an asset,
39:29
Speaker 1: which is a major reality TV faux pas. I mean,
39:31
Speaker 1: like we are actually looking at the numbers. Okay, Taylor
39:34
Speaker 1: has the most followers by far. Again, nothing it fucking matters,
39:38
Speaker 1: but clearly all these girls care about our numbers and
39:41
Speaker 1: money and all that shit, and to me is like,
39:42
Speaker 1: you know, middle line, and just because she was a
39:44
Speaker 1: fan favorite season one means she's a fan favorite season two.
39:47
Speaker 1: She just looks at other people and compares herself rather
39:50
Speaker 1: than just focusing on herself, and it's just really toxic,
39:53
Speaker 1: and it's also just very prevalent in the industry. I'm into.
39:57
Speaker 1: That's why I don't just have like a few friends,
40:01
Speaker 1: you know, I know so many people like this and
40:03
Speaker 1: it's so exhausting, but this just seems like perfect timing
40:06
Speaker 1: for me to kind of get like the sympathy card.
40:08
Speaker 1: And she starts talking about her infertility issues and everything,
40:11
Speaker 1: which is you know, awful and very real and for
40:14
Speaker 1: a lot of women, but it's like suspiciously well timed
40:17
Speaker 1: and kind of diffuses the dinner table tension. And then
40:19
Speaker 1: the moms go out clubbing, just leading to convos about
40:22
Speaker 1: competition versus jealousy. And then we get into episode seven
40:25
Speaker 1: where the moms wear matching leggings in a group dance,
40:28
Speaker 1: which is a symbolic attempt of unity, which I think
40:31
Speaker 1: is really funny. And then Whitney asks the big question,
40:34
Speaker 1: am I back on mom Talk? And an emergency vote
40:37
Speaker 1: is held like it's like it's a little little twelve
40:41
Speaker 1: year old club and everyone says no except for Taylor,
40:44
Speaker 1: and Whitney is like officially out, which like just go
40:48
Speaker 1: just leave, don't come back. This is so toxic. And
40:50
Speaker 1: then we have a Tailor and Dakota update, and that's
40:52
Speaker 1: that they're still sleeping together, they're still calling it stepping back,
40:55
Speaker 1: and they're still out of baby wipes and basically basically
40:57
Speaker 1: nothing has changed. And this is when we see Zach
41:00
Speaker 1: who's still being filmed even though Jen took a step back,
41:03
Speaker 1: and he tells Connor and Whitney that Jen cries at
41:05
Speaker 1: ninety percent because of the girls and suggests to Me
41:08
Speaker 1: and Brett may pursue legal action to suppress rumors, and
41:12
Speaker 1: he delivers the ominous line, I have nothing to lose,
41:15
Speaker 1: so we'll see and then we have a Tailor Dakota
41:18
Speaker 1: update number two, where Gavin advises Dakota to cement himself
41:21
Speaker 1: in self love and set up as a father, so
41:24
Speaker 1: he's finally kind of stepping up. And then we have
41:27
Speaker 1: friends giving in the Mormon Bakeoff, and the absentees are
41:31
Speaker 1: Jordan and Jesse because they're in Mexico, and obviously Jen
41:33
Speaker 1: and Zach, and the energy in this is kind of
41:36
Speaker 1: calm for once, and they all bake something and it's
41:38
Speaker 1: kind of like a Mormon contradiction on full display. It's
41:42
Speaker 1: like all this drama, drama, drama, and then we have
41:43
Speaker 1: a bakeoff and then we're all like, we're all good
41:45
Speaker 1: and we're all like traditional and everything's fine. It's just
41:48
Speaker 1: I don't know the switch up. The switch up is crazy.
41:51
Speaker 1: And then at dinner and all that nice stuff just leaves,
41:55
Speaker 1: and Layla reignites to me and Brett cheating scandal, and
41:58
Speaker 1: to me just doubles down that they're all always together
42:00
Speaker 1: and that he'd need a spy to cheat. I don't
42:03
Speaker 1: know if that's good. And Macy then demands proof despite
42:06
Speaker 1: organizing anonymous confessions herself, and we have another Taylor and
42:10
Speaker 1: Dakota update, and that's that Dakota gives Taylor an ultimatum,
42:13
Speaker 1: and Brett offers advice and asks Taylor if she thinks
42:16
Speaker 1: she's worthy of love, and then Connor chimes in to
42:19
Speaker 1: discuss himself. Because the men just love to make it
42:22
Speaker 1: about themselves and just belittle the women constantly. It's just
42:25
Speaker 1: like the men's behavior, it just continues to undermine the
42:27
Speaker 1: women's autonomy over and over again. It's just like so uncomfortable.
42:32
Speaker 1: Now we're into episode eight, and that's Taylor's CMA milestone,
42:35
Speaker 1: because Taylor attended the CMAS to present an award, which
42:38
Speaker 1: was a huge career moment for her, and then she
42:40
Speaker 1: obviously posted it on Instagram expecting support from mom talk,
42:44
Speaker 1: but it was radio silent, no comments, no fire emojis,
42:49
Speaker 1: no Sleigh queens, nothing, And apparently this is a big deal.
42:53
Speaker 1: So Taylor events on her Instagram stories and the group
42:56
Speaker 1: defends themselves with claims of private texts and then to
42:58
Speaker 1: me retally, it's public saying don't feed the ego, you
43:02
Speaker 1: don't need her bebe and then the digital war just
43:05
Speaker 1: ignites again, just like we're here. It's so surface level,
43:09
Speaker 1: it's so mean, girl, it's so not important, but I'm
43:13
Speaker 1: still watching it. And then eventually they all like start
43:16
Speaker 1: talking and Taylor starts to like say that she regrets
43:19
Speaker 1: the online war and everything, and they kind of stepped
43:22
Speaker 1: towards reconciliation. It's just it's just it's just a shit,
43:25
Speaker 1: shit show. And during the reconciliation, de me like like
43:28
Speaker 1: Taylor sends out a big apology or whatever, and to
43:30
Speaker 1: me is just like so cold, and she like she
43:33
Speaker 1: really is just becoming the villain, like she was like
43:35
Speaker 1: here and she's like bottom of the barrel like and
43:38
Speaker 1: Leyla even reveals that she's actually afraid of to me
43:41
Speaker 1: and that she's been manipulated by her before. And we
43:43
Speaker 1: find out well while Taylor is on a jet home
43:46
Speaker 1: that to me has just been out for blood for Taylor,
43:48
Speaker 1: like she just wants to knock Taylor down off her pedestal.
43:51
Speaker 1: And then Whitney actually meets to me at Jesse's salon
43:54
Speaker 1: and Whitney actually validates to Me's feelings about Taylor, like cautiously,
43:58
Speaker 1: but she still does. And this kind of foreshadows the
44:01
Speaker 1: next board voote and then there's the next brand event
44:03
Speaker 1: with jay Z Styles, which is Jesse's business, and then
44:06
Speaker 1: Taylor arrives with Dakota in mothwigs, So Jesse moves the
44:10
Speaker 1: group to a private corner and the confrontation begins and
44:13
Speaker 1: Taylor says she apologized to everyone but to me. Jesse
44:16
Speaker 1: brings up bullying from Taylor's fans, and the Taylor fires
44:19
Speaker 1: back saying, you guys think I'm dumber than a block
44:21
Speaker 1: because that's what the text messages read that she read
44:23
Speaker 1: on the JAT And then Taylor claims that to me
44:25
Speaker 1: doesn't think Jesse's good at hair and that she's just
44:28
Speaker 1: stuck at jay Z styles and this is like the
44:30
Speaker 1: ultimate betrayal in a networked business circle. Again, surface level shit.
44:36
Speaker 1: It's like it's just tiring. It's like, are we writing
44:38
Speaker 1: this drama into this? It's just like the same thing
44:40
Speaker 1: over and over, it seems it just going to episode
44:43
Speaker 1: nine and we actually have a full cast conversation on Mormonism,
44:47
Speaker 1: which I think is one of the more interesting parts
44:50
Speaker 1: of this whole season, and to talk about doctrine, trauma, afterlife,
44:53
Speaker 1: betrayal all in a guff Airbnb. But it is really interesting,
44:58
Speaker 1: and it's also interesting to see who's participating in the conversation.
45:04
Speaker 1: And who's like looking at their phone and not participating
45:06
Speaker 1: because they know that the Mormon Church might not like
45:08
Speaker 1: what they're talking about. And everything I found, I found
45:10
Speaker 1: it very very interesting. And then fans actually spotted a
45:13
Speaker 1: thyroid issue from the Chippendales episode and Jesse is actually
45:17
Speaker 1: diagnosed with nodules and she actually needs surgery. And then
45:20
Speaker 1: Macy shows some genuine friendship and support and Jesse is
45:23
Speaker 1: still hurt by Demi undermining her hair business, YadA yaha.
45:26
Speaker 1: And then the girls go to New Orleans, but Taylor
45:29
Speaker 1: dips out and Demi is just relieved by that, of course,
45:32
Speaker 1: and that's when the group gets a group text from
45:35
Speaker 1: Jen and it's like an apology video and it's very
45:38
Speaker 1: meaningful and everything, and I'm sure it took a lot
45:41
Speaker 1: for Jen to do that, you know, But of course,
45:44
Speaker 1: to me, fan favorite is just cold as a bitch,
45:48
Speaker 1: and she calls Jen cowardly for crying on camera, which
45:52
Speaker 1: is after everything she's been through, I just again, no respect.
45:56
Speaker 1: And in other news, they go to a burlesque show
45:59
Speaker 1: and a former pulls out a joint and that's when
46:01
Speaker 1: Layla takes a hit without hesitation, which is unexpectedly iconic. Meanwhile,
46:05
Speaker 1: Taylor just is dealing with passive aggressive family drama back
46:08
Speaker 1: in Utah. And then one of the weirdest, most tone
46:12
Speaker 1: deaf parts of the show is this pregnancy roulette game.
46:15
Speaker 1: And it's tone deaf because as we know, to me,
46:18
Speaker 1: although you know not fan favorite is struggling with fertility.
46:22
Speaker 1: So this is just so awkward and awful to watch
46:25
Speaker 1: because Mikayla and Macy are pregnant and then obviously to
46:28
Speaker 1: me is not, and a lot of the other girls
46:30
Speaker 1: are not, and it's just like the whole thing was
46:32
Speaker 1: just labeled as cruel and deeply insensitive, which I agree
46:35
Speaker 1: it is. And they all discussed the Young Woman's Program
46:38
Speaker 1: for Mormon girls and Jesse questions doctrine like there were
46:41
Speaker 1: no phones then, and they unpacked ceiling, which is interesting,
46:45
Speaker 1: like Jesse is sealed to her ex husband and Miranda
46:49
Speaker 1: had her ceiling removed and lost eternal ties to her kids,
46:52
Speaker 1: which is a crazy thought to think about. And then
46:55
Speaker 1: men can be sealed to multiple women. That's kind of
46:58
Speaker 1: something I was talking about before, like in the afterlife,
47:00
Speaker 1: you will always be sealed to someone you marry, even
47:03
Speaker 1: if you divorce them. But men will always have multiple
47:06
Speaker 1: wives kind of thing. It's strange this a general afterlife
47:09
Speaker 1: doctrine is deeply sexist. Basically. It was definitely one of
47:13
Speaker 1: the most raw and eye opening scenes of the series.
47:16
Speaker 1: And then Jesse tries to reconcile with Demi, and Demi
47:19
Speaker 1: just denies any sort of wrongdoing and offers gaslighting and
47:22
Speaker 1: blame shifting basically. And then Jesse gave free glam to everyone,
47:27
Speaker 1: and Demi told others to avoid Jesse's salon altogether, that
47:31
Speaker 1: she can't actually do hair that well, and it was
47:33
Speaker 1: just like one of the coldest moments in reality TV betrayal, Like,
47:36
Speaker 1: I don't know how the shift happened with Demi, but
47:39
Speaker 1: she deserves the back of the posters, I'm saying. And
47:43
Speaker 1: then at a dinner, Demi announces that Taylor is not
47:46
Speaker 1: invited to her Christmas party, Oh oh no, and she
47:50
Speaker 1: proposes a vote of no confidence to outst Taylor from
47:54
Speaker 1: nom talk, and the criteria was does Taylor contribute? Does
47:58
Speaker 1: she reflect group values? And she a liability? And Demi
48:01
Speaker 1: overall threatens if Taylor's in, and then I'm out and
48:05
Speaker 1: no one supports her, and Macy exposes Demi's sabotage of
48:10
Speaker 1: Jesse's business, like trying to make everybody not go to
48:12
Speaker 1: her business and everything and shit talking her best friend basically,
48:15
Speaker 1: and Demi's only ally at this point is Whitney, who
48:18
Speaker 1: isn't even on the board because I remember she got
48:20
Speaker 1: voted out, so it's all pretty funny, and Karma's a
48:23
Speaker 1: bitch basically, and then we get to the finale where
48:25
Speaker 1: the drama just picks back up with Layla visiting Taylor
48:28
Speaker 1: in Park City, bringing her a Bayonet mix and worse
48:32
Speaker 1: news because Demi had issued an ultimatum that could impact
48:35
Speaker 1: Taylor's custody arrangement, and she told her that Taylor had
48:38
Speaker 1: also been disinvited to Demi's Christmas party and the joke
48:40
Speaker 1: about crashing the event injecting mean Girl's energy into the
48:44
Speaker 1: Mormon mom sphere, which, girl, we're so past that. We
48:47
Speaker 1: are so past that by now. And that's when we
48:49
Speaker 1: cut to said party, which is a lavish affair full
48:52
Speaker 1: of glam meat balls than awkward tension, especially when Leanne
48:56
Speaker 1: actually shows up and her outfit is more pta. She
49:00
Speaker 1: then party crasher glamb, but she still goes head to
49:02
Speaker 1: head with Demi in a fiery argument over pass betrayals,
49:06
Speaker 1: including the infamous CMA's dramas, and it all just cultivates
49:09
Speaker 1: with Demi yelling that Taylor needs therapy and to be
49:13
Speaker 1: a fucking mom bitch what and Whitney and Brett seem
49:17
Speaker 1: to be the only ones shocked by the spectacle. Well,
49:19
Speaker 1: the rest of the crowd just pretends that the snow
49:21
Speaker 1: machine makes it all okay. Meanwhile, Macy actually takes a
49:24
Speaker 1: really heavy turn and she visits the parents of her
49:26
Speaker 1: late boyfriend Eric, who died in a car crash while
49:29
Speaker 1: she was pregnant with their son, which is horrible, and
49:31
Speaker 1: Macy just admits that she never properly grieved, and later
49:34
Speaker 1: Mikayla actually accompanies her to Eric's crash site, where Macy
49:38
Speaker 1: breaks down over the unresolved emotions and the fact that
49:41
Speaker 1: she found out that he died via an Instagram post,
49:43
Speaker 1: which I can't even I can't even imagine. It's terrible again,
49:48
Speaker 1: one of like the another deep raw moment in the
49:51
Speaker 1: show that is, you know what, that's three out of
49:54
Speaker 1: like ten episodes and so still grazed over. And then elsewhere,
49:59
Speaker 1: Jesse and Macy bond of her friendship dynamics and Jesse
50:02
Speaker 1: recovering from that thyroid scare besides that life is too
50:05
Speaker 1: short to deal with a Demi's manipulation bullshit, and she
50:08
Speaker 1: finally gets why Macy avoids choosing sides and values peace
50:12
Speaker 1: and book deals. But everybody's kind of figuring out, like
50:15
Speaker 1: where where loyalty lies and if they're actually friends or not.
50:19
Speaker 1: And at the mom talk board meeting, three hot topics
50:22
Speaker 1: are up for vote, Miranda's quietly granted probationary membership and
50:27
Speaker 1: Whitney is reinstated despite Taylor feeling betrayed, and Demi and
50:31
Speaker 1: Taylor argue again about loyalty, friendship and pasted drama, and
50:36
Speaker 1: Jesse drops the mic in a confessional saying Demi talks
50:40
Speaker 1: like a therapist to seem right even when she's wrong.
50:43
Speaker 1: Dumn loved it, And finally, in a really bizarre twist,
50:48
Speaker 1: Laila meets up with Marciano from vander Pump Villa at
50:52
Speaker 1: a ski resort and he claims he came sniffing around
50:55
Speaker 1: after hearing about women's swingers and tried to actually hook
50:58
Speaker 1: up with Demi and then with suspiciously reality TV polished gestures,
51:03
Speaker 1: he implied he and Jesse had an affair. What And
51:07
Speaker 1: Laila is just stunned. She's like what And the show
51:10
Speaker 1: just ends just dripping a delusion and clout chasing energy
51:14
Speaker 1: with the words to be continued. That's the show. I
51:18
Speaker 1: don't know if there's a season three. I don't think
51:20
Speaker 1: I can handle it. I damn near fell asleep during
51:23
Speaker 1: every episode, and I got distracted and I was I
51:26
Speaker 1: don't know, I just I get so uncomfortable, get secondhand
51:30
Speaker 1: embarrassment so much when I watch shows, and I got
51:32
Speaker 1: it so much during this, like whether it was four
51:34
Speaker 1: of the girls, like when the guys were talking to
51:36
Speaker 1: each other or the girls talking about the girls about
51:39
Speaker 1: each other, and like just the surface level bullshit and everything.
51:42
Speaker 1: There were obviously a few moments that I think were
51:44
Speaker 1: really deep and important, like Jen's pregnancy kind of realization
51:50
Speaker 1: and depression. I think that's very very real. Taylor dealing
51:53
Speaker 1: with her family drama and being talked down to by
51:55
Speaker 1: everyone around her. I think that was like very eye
51:58
Speaker 1: opening and kind of scary, like a few other moments,
52:01
Speaker 1: but overall, I mean, it's not It's hard, and I'm
52:05
Speaker 1: thirsty and I think I'm going to go get a
52:07
Speaker 1: swig just kidding. I don't have one by me. I
52:09
Speaker 1: don't know if you guys like these kind of videos.
52:11
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of interesting sometimes. Let me know
52:14
Speaker 1: if there's any other shows that you want me to
52:15
Speaker 1: dive into. I actually watched the Paul brother season and
52:19
Speaker 1: I was going to do a video on that, but
52:21
Speaker 1: I decided not to. But let me know if you
52:22
Speaker 1: actually want to see that, because I have thoughts on
52:24
Speaker 1: the Paul Brothers. But yeah, you know, overall, I just
52:28
Speaker 1: think reality TV is crazy and stupid and mostly garbage,
52:33
Speaker 1: but I also kind of love it. Let me know
52:35
Speaker 1: what you thought of the show, and I've done