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IAAI Town Meeting: I Smell Fake Snow (Season 4 E11 “In the Clamor and the Clangor”) · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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Speaker 1: I Am All in again.
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Speaker 2: Oh, i's you. I Am All in Town meeting with
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Speaker 2: Suzanne French and Tara suit An iHeartRadio podcast.
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Speaker 3: Hey guys, welcome back another episode of I'm All in
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Speaker 3: Town Meeting with myself, Tara and Suzanne.
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Speaker 2: Hello.
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Speaker 3: Hi, Today we're going to be talking about season four,
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Speaker 3: episode eleven, in The Clamor and the Clanger, which aired
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Speaker 3: on January twenty seventh, two thousand and four.
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Speaker 2: Overall thoughts, I like this episode. So I really like
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Speaker 2: the like the Luke and LAURELLEI stuff.
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Speaker 1: Okay, we finally.
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Speaker 2: Start to see laurel I, you know, maybe acknowledging that
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Speaker 2: she's got some feelings for Luke, you know, because she's upset.
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Speaker 2: She almost tells him that she doesn't want him to well,
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Speaker 2: she does tell him she doesn't want him to move,
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Speaker 2: but she almost tells him why. Yeah, so I love
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Speaker 2: that storyline. I just, you know, the whole stuff with
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Speaker 2: Asher Fleming. I'm still not yeah, I don't know whatever,
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Speaker 2: but but I thought it was good. And then we
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Speaker 2: also get you know, some Lane Russia on Lane's storyline. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: so I think it's a it's an important episode.
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Speaker 3: I think overall, I actually recap this with Scott and
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Speaker 3: so I'm trying not to repeat myself, but overall I
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Speaker 3: liked it. I think the one thing I mentioned with
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Speaker 3: Scott that I kind of wanted to mention here, and
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Speaker 3: just because of the overall thought, it still bugs me
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Speaker 3: that she is a little too in Luke's life when
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Speaker 3: she's dating someone else.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with don't think it's fair.
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Speaker 2: Right, And I do think it was not fair of
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Speaker 2: her to completely freak out on him in the diner
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Speaker 2: that she didn't know he had moved, and she has
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Speaker 2: never once mentioned Jason to him. No, So where does
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Speaker 2: she get off being so mad at him for withholding
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Speaker 2: information from her when she's doing exactly the same thing.
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Speaker 2: So that's that's the big call out.
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Speaker 1: I yes, yeah, yeah, So I would like to say
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Speaker 1: there were a lot of hats this episode.
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Speaker 2: You know, I actually wrote that down. I wrote the
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Speaker 2: hats and I highlighted it.
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Speaker 1: I didn't like the white one.
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Speaker 2: I didn't like any of the hats in this episode.
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Speaker 2: I yeah, I don't know, I don't. I don't know
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Speaker 2: if Easton has done, you know, a fashion episode about
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Speaker 2: this one, but maybe he should because the hats are
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Speaker 2: just really terrible. In this episode the funeral, they're both
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Speaker 2: wearing the cat Yeah black hats. The berets don't really
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Speaker 2: look good on either one of them, and why would
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Speaker 2: you wear.
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Speaker 1: That to The white one just bothered me because I
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Speaker 1: had the one black line.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, well yeah, in the shape of it, like in
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Speaker 2: the shape, it's like it's like a shot but with
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Speaker 2: a brim, Like what the heck was that? Like when
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Speaker 2: would when would that ever look good? I mean, I
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Speaker 2: can't think of any situation where I would wear.
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Speaker 1: That hat that And also I don't remember that being
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Speaker 1: in style.
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Speaker 2: Yeah I don't. I don't even know what that kind
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Speaker 2: of hat is called, Like I've never seen that before.
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Speaker 1: That's why the berets didn't bother me as much, because
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Speaker 1: I feel like that was a moment. But the white one,
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Speaker 1: I was like.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't go any and the red coat she
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Speaker 2: was wearing was super cute. This is also the series
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Speaker 2: of episodes where we get the pink coat that everybody loves. Yes,
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Speaker 2: so the coats are great, but the hats, Like what
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Speaker 2: are we doing with the hats?
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Speaker 3: We don't need them, I mean, I guess because it's snowing, which,
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Speaker 3: by the way, sorry to sidetrack. The snow that Luke
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Speaker 3: was shoveling looked very much like sand. And if you
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Speaker 3: notice it's like this, the dust of the sand particles
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Speaker 3: was like rising as he was talking. It was like foggy.
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Speaker 2: I didn't notice that part so much, but I did
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Speaker 2: notice the weird way that it was like caked on
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Speaker 2: the tires of the jeep. Like that you could look
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Speaker 2: at it and tell that was nove real.
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Speaker 3: If you actually go back and look the way he's shoveling,
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Speaker 3: it like definitely looks like he's just like throwing sand around,
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Speaker 3: but it's just like white sand. And then when he's talking,
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Speaker 3: because it like he's like shoveling and moving and talking
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Speaker 3: to her and kind of like that's when.
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Speaker 1: They he kind of blows up on her.
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Speaker 3: You can literally see like the dust of the sand rising.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to look for that because I was
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Speaker 2: so busy looking at the tires, I wasn't looking at
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Speaker 2: the shoveling part.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, go back, because it was I was like, not
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Speaker 3: the best fake snow, but again, fake snow is never
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Speaker 3: going to be perfect, so right.
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Speaker 2: Right exactly, And I remember, you know, from going to
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Speaker 2: holidays made here when they because they had recreated all
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Speaker 2: the fake snow, and then of course it was pouring
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Speaker 2: rain and burbank for a week, so it all got
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Speaker 2: washed away. But that's that fake snow stuff really does
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Speaker 2: like stick to everything, and so it was it was
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Speaker 2: getting like all tracked into Lorelized house and oh really, yeah,
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Speaker 2: they were having to like ask people don't walk on
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Speaker 2: the fake snow because it was like getting tracked.
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Speaker 1: By the way. The rain we had during holidays made
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Speaker 1: here was like bad rain.
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it was insane.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like some of the worst train I've
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Speaker 1: seen it.
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Speaker 2: And it didn't stop, like it was day after day.
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Speaker 1: I didn't stop. Actually the day I went, which was
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Speaker 1: like I think it was like January second or something.
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Speaker 3: I went early in the morning because I had just
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Speaker 3: I was leaving I think as you were getting there. Yes,
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Speaker 3: I had like because I was like, oh, I had
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Speaker 3: other things to do. I was gonna stop in the morning.
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Speaker 3: And literally I was like mosing on around and like
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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, maybe I'll do like one more
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Speaker 3: loop and it started drizzling and I was like I'm out.
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Speaker 3: And the second I sat on the shuttle to get
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Speaker 3: transport back to my cars just started dumping rain, and
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Speaker 3: like there was only like me and like two people
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Speaker 3: on the shuttle, and the woman next to me looked
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Speaker 3: and she's like, I think we made a good call.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, no, it was pretty bad.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was bad enough. They actually had to close
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Speaker 2: one day, which is really usual. Yeah, they had to
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Speaker 2: shut down one day. But but yeah, so definitely fake snow.
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Speaker 2: One thing I thought was funny on the scene where
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Speaker 2: Laurla I was walking past do Sies and it's like
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Speaker 2: all snowing and these obnoxious bells are going off. I
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Speaker 2: don't know if you noticed it, but the windows on
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Speaker 2: Dosie's market they were advertising aspirin and earplugs.
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Speaker 3: Oh really that is Wait, that's actually really funny with
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Speaker 3: the bells.
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Speaker 1: I didn't notice that. Yeah, that's fun.
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Speaker 2: I always try to look and see, like what the
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Speaker 2: specials are at do Seas, and a lot of times
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Speaker 2: they're just like random grocery items.
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Speaker 1: I usually look.
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Speaker 3: I just I think I was so distracted by the
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Speaker 3: town and the bells, I just didn't look.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I liked it because it was it was appropriate
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Speaker 2: for the episode.
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Speaker 3: I also thought it was really weird that she opened
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Speaker 3: the church door with a gym membership card. Why did
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Speaker 3: you two?
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Speaker 1: Parter one, why did she have the card?
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Speaker 3: Which Luke calls out, But two, how do you open
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Speaker 3: that door with a card?
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Speaker 2: You know? I don't know. That was something they always
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Speaker 2: did in TV shows, was was you break into a
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Speaker 2: door with a credit card? Like I guess you would
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Speaker 2: like push the the in the interior part of the log. Oh,
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Speaker 2: you push it in, yeah, like you push it in
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Speaker 2: and then supposedly like put but if it's like a
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Speaker 2: dead bolt, that's not gonna work. I don't know. I
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Speaker 2: think it's just a fake TV thing because they always
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Speaker 2: did it. That's why she even commented, you know so
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Speaker 2: many episodes of Heart to Heart because that's what they
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Speaker 2: did on TV shows in the seventies, was they did
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Speaker 2: stupid things like that and somehow they worked.
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Speaker 4: Yeaeah, Rammy Mallick was in this sense.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, oh my gosh, yes, I was on
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Speaker 1: my list too. Was this like one of his first roles?
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Speaker 2: I think it was. I think this was what got
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Speaker 2: him his sad card.
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Speaker 1: Oh that's cool.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've read that somewhere in an article.
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Speaker 1: Along with me.
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Speaker 3: He really looks the same, I gotta say, Yeah, he
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Speaker 3: looks exactly the same, just like a little bit older,
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Speaker 3: but looks the same.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and his character was funny then it.
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Speaker 1: Was so as Eric.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I briefly mentioned this with Scott. But do you
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Speaker 3: think that missus Kim kind of.
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Speaker 1: Knew what Lane and Rory were doing?
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Speaker 3: Because well, to jump to the end, she obviously knows,
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Speaker 3: like went through her room and found everything. But I
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Speaker 3: got the hint from when they just switched out the
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Speaker 3: cover of the book that like she kind of knew.
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Speaker 2: You'd think that she would because it would not be
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Speaker 2: like Rory to be borrowing religious books.
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Speaker 1: From Lane, and also you could totally see the cover
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Speaker 1: under it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she probably did have some kind of suspicion,
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Speaker 2: but she would have just written it off as you know,
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Speaker 2: Rory's just a heathen or what like. She wouldn't maybe
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Speaker 2: not have thought that Lane was involved in it.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess let's just jump to the missus Kim
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Speaker 3: and Lane stuff while while we're here.
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Speaker 1: I felt bad for missus Kim a little bit.
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Speaker 2: I feel bad for her after she talks to Luke
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Speaker 2: outside the diner in the morning and it's snowing, and
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Speaker 2: then she's like, well, I guess I'll just go home,
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Speaker 2: and she just like drives off, like she doesn't go
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Speaker 2: look for Lane, she just goes home, and right, I
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Speaker 2: did feel kind of bad for her. I mean, we know,
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Speaker 2: generally I'm sympathetic towards Lane because she's you know, missus
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Speaker 2: Kim is very oppressive. But I did understand, you know,
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Speaker 2: her feeling as a parent, like your kid is, you know,
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Speaker 2: keeping things from you like that feels bad. So I did.
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Speaker 2: I did feel bad for her at that.
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Speaker 3: Point, especially when she's talking to Luke. I think it's
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Speaker 3: all like clicking mm hmmm.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So like the fact, I think it broke my heart
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Speaker 3: that she was like, Lane's not going to come in
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Speaker 3: tomorrow like she I think, didn't she say she's not
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Speaker 3: feeling well or did she just say she's not going
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Speaker 3: to be able to come in? And then and then
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Speaker 3: when specifically when Luke is like, oh my god, she's
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Speaker 3: such a good kid. She already called me, it's like.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And then yeah, I think that's when she
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Speaker 2: starts to think, Okay, well, if she's hiding that from me,
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Speaker 2: like what else is she hiding? Like why, you know,
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Speaker 2: trying to figure out why wasn't she home last night?
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Speaker 2: Because she doesn't know anything about the band or anything
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Speaker 2: like that. So of course her you know, her response
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Speaker 2: is going to be like, well, wait a minute, why
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Speaker 2: didn't she come home? Where was she? And so that's
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Speaker 2: when she, you know, starts looking through Lane's room for
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Speaker 2: clues and find some stuff. So, yeah, it's a poignant
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Speaker 2: moment for sure.
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Speaker 1: How would you, by the way, how would you even
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Speaker 1: begin to look into the floorboards? That was my thought.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. She had like the mattress flipped
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Speaker 2: up and everything, like I can understand, like you opened
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Speaker 2: the closet.
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Speaker 3: The prop department did a really great job of displaying
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Speaker 3: it all.
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Speaker 1: I got to say, Yeah, they got like stuff pinned
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Speaker 1: to the bottom of the mattress.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. But yeah, yeah, I don't know. I don't know
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Speaker 2: what made her, like I think, to go to that
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Speaker 2: length of like looking at all those secret places.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Also, I I did like Lane's outfit at the show.
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Speaker 2: Yes, her hair, her hair curled, looked really good, her hair.
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Speaker 1: The skirt was cool, even though like it wasn't really gloves.
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Speaker 3: It was like I can't really explain it, like the
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Speaker 3: I guess, Yeah, it was cool.
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Speaker 1: But I did.
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Speaker 3: I did feel bad for them too that they came
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Speaker 3: all that way. And you know, Laane had a point.
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Speaker 3: She was like, everyone's played for like an empty room.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's true, just give.
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Speaker 1: Him a shot. But yeah, Gil is like the voice
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Speaker 1: of reason. And then, oh my god, what's his name?
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Speaker 2: Zach?
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Speaker 1: Zach is just so annoying this episode.
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Speaker 2: He really was.
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Speaker 1: I really was, like from the beginning when they're in
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Speaker 1: the shed practicing to him just being annoyed to the show,
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Speaker 1: like all of it. I was like, come on, just
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Speaker 1: like take it down three notches.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. He That's that's why I always get annoyed.
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Speaker 2: And I've mentioned it before that they put him together
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Speaker 2: with Lane because they did such a good job of
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Speaker 2: building him up to be this complete jerk, and he's
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Speaker 2: just he whinds about everything all the time, and he's
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Speaker 2: you know, he's rude to Gill, he's rude to Brian.
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Speaker 2: He's just a jerk. Like, you don't like him as
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Speaker 2: a character. And then all of a sudden, we're supposed
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Speaker 2: to believe that, you know, Lane falls in love with him,
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Speaker 2: which I never bought that, but yeah, he was super
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Speaker 2: annoying in this episode. And you know, Gil got them
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Speaker 2: this gig, and Gil's been in the industry, so he
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Speaker 2: knows how this stuff works. And you know, Zach is
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I guess I don't know if Zach
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Speaker 2: is jealous or or what, but he's Yeah, he needed
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Speaker 2: to dial it back a little bit.
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Speaker 3: I think the writers don't even know if he was
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Speaker 3: jealous or not yet. I think it was more just
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Speaker 3: like he doesn't like Gil period. I think that was
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Speaker 3: the I think that is the argument. Yeah, I'm trying
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Speaker 3: to see what else. Sorry, I'm like mixing up the
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Speaker 3: episodes in my head.
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Speaker 2: There was something I noticed in this episode that I
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Speaker 2: had not thought about before. So in the scene where okay,
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Speaker 2: so it's the morning after Lane shows up at Yale
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Speaker 2: and she and Rory are like walking around Yale and
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Speaker 2: getting coffee or something. I forget what they were doing,
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Speaker 2: but Lane was saying like she still hasn't called home
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Speaker 2: and she's been putting it off, and she was saying
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Speaker 2: to Rory like, look at it, look at everything you have,
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Speaker 2: Like I don't have any of that stuff, and she
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Speaker 2: was just feeling like her whole life is messed up. Anyways,
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Speaker 2: that's the scene. I'm talking about but Rory says that
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Speaker 2: Lane has a boyfriend. Oh, like, haven't we already established
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Speaker 2: that she and Dave broke up? Like we had the
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Speaker 2: whole marriage jug thing and they had an argument on
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Speaker 2: the phone in that episode.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, is Rory just not up to speed? No?
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Speaker 2: No, because Lane tells Rory that they had the fight.
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Speaker 1: Wait, that totally went right over my head, and.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's gone over my head every time until
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Speaker 2: this time I watch it. I'm like, wait a minute,
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Speaker 2: she just said Laide has a boyfriend, So I don't know,
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Speaker 2: kind of just a loose end that never got tied up. Maybe,
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Speaker 2: but I thought we were all pretty sure that she
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Speaker 2: and Dave broken up by this point.
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Speaker 3: I wonder if, No, that wouldn't make sense. I was
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Speaker 3: gonna say, maybe they filmed out of order, but it
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Speaker 3: doesn't make sense for the rest of the storylines because
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Speaker 3: that was a couple of weeks ago.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, because it was a while back, the marriage.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't like last episode.
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Speaker 3: So I'm like, in my head, I was like, sometimes
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Speaker 3: they could flip the airing of episodes, But no, that
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Speaker 3: makes sense.
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Speaker 1: Huh. I did not know.
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Speaker 2: I wonder if if maybe, I mean, maybe there was
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Speaker 2: like a scene in a prior episode that got cut
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Speaker 2: or something where they alluded to them still being together
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Speaker 2: or something. I don't know, but the way it aired,
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Speaker 2: we definitely are thinking that they've broken up before this.
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Speaker 3: It's funny you mentioned the scenes being cut because I
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Speaker 3: I've been like binging some old shows, not old shows,
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Speaker 3: but like some of like other shows have been watching.
15:10
Speaker 3: I've just been like binging through them, and then I
15:12
Speaker 3: came across this, like like you know, these like these
15:15
Speaker 3: cons that all these stars do, and there was like
15:18
Speaker 3: a panel and someone asked a question and they were like, oh,
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Speaker 3: like because the question for this person was like.
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Speaker 1: What happened with this storyline? And the actor was like, well,
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Speaker 1: we filmed like three scenes that had a whole storyline
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Speaker 1: around that built out, but we cut it.
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Speaker 3: And for the first time, it's like, I mind you.
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Speaker 3: I watched these shows all the time. We talked to Scott.
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Speaker 3: It never like dawns on me that like entire storylines
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Speaker 3: or scenes that are very very important just like get cut. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: Like and what sucks is like they're limited to well,
15:51
Speaker 3: specifically the shows that were on network television that were
15:56
Speaker 3: limited to sixty minutes, like those types of shows like
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Speaker 3: the ones that are on right now, like The Rookie
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Speaker 3: and all that, Like there's a limited but a show
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Speaker 3: like a Netflix show or Prime, Like some of these
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Speaker 3: episodes are like an hour and twenty and then some
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Speaker 3: of them are like fifty eight, so like they don't
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Speaker 3: have to cut scenes.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true.
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Speaker 3: So it just makes I sometimes wish that the network
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Speaker 3: shows were allowed to release like the full thing.
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Speaker 2: The whole thing, yeeah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, like I just forget about deleted scenes
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Speaker 3: because we don't live in that world as much anymore, right,
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Speaker 3: mainly for time, not even storyline. It's like, okay, well
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Speaker 3: we don't just don't have time. Looks like it's going
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Speaker 3: to be like seventy minutes and we can't do it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but yeah, you're right, going back to what
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Speaker 3: you said, there may have been something in the middle. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: unless unless it was just a fluke on on the screen.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I didn't pay attention to who wrote the episodes, so
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Speaker 2: maybe yeah, maybe they were written by two different people
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Speaker 2: and they just like missed that fine point.
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Speaker 1: But and no one was going back and watching it
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Speaker 1: the way we are now.
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Speaker 2: Right exactly exactly. But speaking of things that maybe got
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Speaker 2: cut or that we would have liked to have seen.
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Speaker 2: I liked the scene with the two when Rory was
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Speaker 2: with the two girls and they were opening the care
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Speaker 2: package and the one girl was one of the ones
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Speaker 2: from the night that Rory moved into the dorm. But
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Speaker 2: I liked that little scene. Like I wish we'd had
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Speaker 2: I wish, and I think we said this even when
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Speaker 2: she moved into the dorms. I wish she had more
17:33
Speaker 2: friends at Yale other than just Paris, Like I would
17:36
Speaker 2: have liked, yeah, that relationship. And I know we get
17:39
Speaker 2: the girls in season seven and I can't remember their
17:42
Speaker 2: name Lucy, and oh yeah, like we get them later,
17:46
Speaker 2: but I don't know. I just would have liked to
17:48
Speaker 2: have seen her have like a normal college friendship.
17:52
Speaker 3: That brings me to I also wish that like they're establishing,
17:57
Speaker 3: like the guy with the who was sitting under her tree,
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Speaker 3: like she asked him out, or even this guy who
18:04
Speaker 3: that's not the same guy. No, no, it's not the
18:06
Speaker 3: same guy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, this wasn't the tree guy. This was the laundry room.
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Speaker 3: Oka, Yeah, that's the laundry room guy, tree laundry room.
18:13
Speaker 3: But I wish we would see her like going on
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Speaker 3: a date, even if it's really a crappy date, and like,
18:19
Speaker 3: but we just these are like dead end storylines, Like
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Speaker 3: the guy with the tree, it's like, okay, well, nothing
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Speaker 3: ever happened, and then this guy, it's like, okay, well,
18:28
Speaker 3: clearly he wasn't talking about Rory. But then like what's
18:31
Speaker 3: the future, Like she could have asked him out too,
18:34
Speaker 3: like she could write.
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Speaker 2: And and that Trevor guy. We did see her go
18:38
Speaker 2: on a date with that Trevor guy from her class
18:41
Speaker 2: and they went to the Italian restaurant and the date
18:43
Speaker 2: was like a total flop, but it I don't know,
18:46
Speaker 2: it just would have been nice to see like more.
18:48
Speaker 3: You're right, like we're not getting we're getting like our
18:50
Speaker 3: toe dipped into Rory's college life.
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Speaker 1: But like that's it right, right.
18:55
Speaker 2: It's still very like Paris.
18:59
Speaker 3: I think it's in interesting that it's Rory's first year
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Speaker 3: of college and we're getting more Luke and Laura than
19:05
Speaker 3: ever before.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the writers know that we can't like
19:11
Speaker 2: entirely leave Stars hollow, like we can't make it so
19:14
Speaker 2: Rory focused that we don't see what's happening in town anymore. Yeah,
19:28
Speaker 2: I had one more thing to call out and going
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Speaker 2: back for a minute to the fashion. So this episode
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Speaker 2: has the worst piece of clothing that I have ever
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Speaker 2: seen in the entire seven year run of the show,
19:44
Speaker 2: and that is the shirt that Laura is wearing in
19:47
Speaker 2: the last scene where she's sitting at Weston's and she's
19:52
Speaker 2: on the phone with Rory and Rory's telling her about
19:55
Speaker 2: the confrontation with the guy in the cafeteria. The shirt
19:59
Speaker 2: that Laura is wearing, I don't know what the frick
20:03
Speaker 2: it is. It looks like a piece of drapery. It's
20:07
Speaker 2: it's like long sleeved with a with a ruffle at
20:10
Speaker 2: the end, which is that's okay, but then it's got
20:13
Speaker 2: like this super high neck and the fabric it seriously
20:17
Speaker 2: looks like a piece of Hotel drapery.
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Speaker 1: I truly don't think I paid attention.
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Speaker 2: I can't not see it. It is so horrific. I like, seriously,
20:27
Speaker 2: every time I watch.
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Speaker 1: It, is it worse than the hat?
20:31
Speaker 2: It was way worse than the hat. Yeah, that's why,
20:34
Speaker 2: like this whole episode, I'm like, it's just a whole
20:37
Speaker 2: series of fashion misses for me, Like it's it's the
20:40
Speaker 2: berets and then it's the white hat, and then it's
20:43
Speaker 2: this horrible shirt. I don't know, it just doesn't look
20:46
Speaker 2: like anything that.
20:47
Speaker 1: Loralai was not cohesive.
20:49
Speaker 2: It's not cohesive, and it's it's not attractive.
20:53
Speaker 1: So funny.
20:53
Speaker 3: I have to go back and look because I don't
20:54
Speaker 3: remember the shirt as much I think it was so
20:57
Speaker 3: I think I was so stuck on the white hat.
20:59
Speaker 2: Yeah, just the fabric is just so weird. Oh yeah,
21:03
Speaker 2: Jackie just texted a picture, so look at and it
21:07
Speaker 2: might be a sweater over a shirt. Maybe that's what
21:09
Speaker 2: the ruffle is, but the fabric is just I don't know.
21:14
Speaker 2: I I don't know why that doesn't look like I
21:18
Speaker 2: think that Lorelai would pick to me.
21:20
Speaker 3: Also, I have to say with the snow in the background,
21:23
Speaker 3: like looking at this still that Jackie pulled, like there's
21:26
Speaker 3: just a lot happening. Yes, it's like the shirt and
21:30
Speaker 3: the snow, you know what I mean, Like.
21:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, huh, And I mean the focus is on
21:35
Speaker 2: what Rory is saying, so it's not so much, but
21:38
Speaker 2: it's like just that like look at that print, like
21:40
Speaker 2: what is that?
21:41
Speaker 3: I don't know, you know, I think I don't think
21:43
Speaker 3: it's a sweater on top. I think that's the way
21:45
Speaker 3: the end of the sleeve is.
21:46
Speaker 2: See, that's what I thought too. And now now I'm
21:49
Speaker 2: looking at it again, I'm not I don't know. And
21:52
Speaker 2: maybe it is a long sleeve shirt, but I don't know.
21:54
Speaker 2: And then look like, look at her shoulder. Is that
21:56
Speaker 2: a hole? Doesn't it look like a hole on the
22:00
Speaker 2: top of her shoulder?
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Speaker 3: No?
22:02
Speaker 2: Or is it just a little pink spot like it
22:04
Speaker 2: looks like a hole with the shirt showing through.
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Speaker 3: Wait, I think I figured this out. Okay, I think
22:10
Speaker 3: she's wearing a pink long sleeve under and then this
22:12
Speaker 3: shirt has like ridges that are like ripped. Okay, so
22:16
Speaker 3: if you say everywhere that's rigid, it's pink under it.
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Speaker 2: Oh, you're right, you're right. So it is just that,
22:23
Speaker 2: you know what, that makes it worse. That makes it
22:25
Speaker 2: one hundred percent worse. What is this? I you know,
22:32
Speaker 2: I don't know, Lorli seriously, but this is like my
22:35
Speaker 2: least favorite piece of clothing in the entire show. And
22:39
Speaker 2: it like burns my red musyah. Yeah. But other than that,
22:43
Speaker 2: it's a great Yeah.
22:45
Speaker 1: I mean it was entertaining.
22:47
Speaker 2: So yeah, that's my and I mean I'm certainly not
22:50
Speaker 2: one to comment on fashion because I have zero fashion
22:53
Speaker 2: sense whatsoever, but I would not touch this shirt with
22:55
Speaker 2: a ten foot pole.
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Speaker 1: And on that note, next week we're going to talk
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Speaker 1: about season four, episode twelve, A Family Matter, which aired
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Speaker 1: February third, two thousand and four. I'll see you next
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