Latest / Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps / JUST JOSH: Why 2024 Will Rock
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- 0:00Can I hear him and welcome to the safe space for dangerous ideas.
- 0:05Here's a dangerous idea for you.
- 0:082024 may not be as shitty as everyone thinks it's going to be, or at least it might be
- 0:15shitty in the way as they fear it's going to be shitty, but you should feel good nonetheless.
- 0:20I say this because many a listener has hit me up over the course of these holiday season,
- 0:27southern summer here in Australia.
- 0:29Say in a zepsol buddy old pal, they says to me, they says to me like that, they says,
- 0:36why didn't you give me like a wrap of 2023 and a prediction of what's going to happen
- 0:39in 2024?
- 0:40Everyone else does it.
- 0:42Why don't you?
- 0:43So at the risk of being a Johnny come lately in this final week of January, can you believe
- 0:48we're almost one-twelfth of the way through 2024?
- 0:52That means it's practically February.
- 0:54And then before you know it, 2024 will be over.
- 0:56And then we'll be a quarter of the way into the 21st century.
- 1:00And where are my flying cars?
- 1:02Nonetheless, I have some thoughts about 2024, some predictions, and some positivity to
- 1:08inject into your little noggin there.
- 1:11A lot of people have been talking like this piece, take a look at this, the world should
- 1:16fear 2024.
- 1:17And if you're listening to this on the podcast, you can watch it with my beautiful
- 1:21visage beaming at you, including images of the articles that I'm referencing on the
- 1:28old YouTube, if you're just Google YouTube, and then Josh Seps, S-Z-E-P-S, or S-Z-E-P-S.
- 1:35This is Aras Rusinos riding the world should fear 2024, escalation lurks on every battlefield.
- 1:44And let me quote a little of Aras here.
- 1:47Like an ailing mammoth weakened by a succession of individual spear thrusts, the hegemon, he's
- 1:54talking about the United States here, staggers bleeding across the global scene.
- 1:59Though stronger than any individual competitor, America is not capable of sustaining the simultaneous
- 2:06major conflicts that may arise.
- 2:10The United States has already shifted into a defensive mode, Aras writes, attempting
- 2:16to preserve its gains of better times against resurgent challenges, and delaying the grand
- 2:24political re-ordering of global affairs for as long as possible, yet unlike Russia, Iran,
- 2:30or China, America's domestic, sorry, democratic system incentivizes short term planning.
- 2:38And Aras goes on to say, over the course of the coming year, America will likely be
- 2:43roiled by its internal political dysfunction in a way we have never yet seen, and the rest
- 2:49of the world will live in the shadow, cast by the contested imperial throne.
- 2:56Not just the fate of Ukraine, but also the NATO alliance will be determined by the battle
- 3:01for power in Washington, Aras writes.
- 3:04He goes on to say that Iran and Hezbollah and China may take this opportunity to pounce
- 3:11and that the world is living through its most dangerous moment in many decades.
- 3:15The logic of events writes, Aras, and many wise people agree with him on this.
- 3:20In every theatre, leads towards further escalation over the year to come.
- 3:26Last year was a hard year, drenched in blood and human misery through global conflict,
- 3:34and in retrospect, he writes, we may view it as the last golden summer of our world order,
- 3:41with the troubling storms still distant on the horizon.
- 3:45The coming year will be a historic one.
- 3:48We are right to dread its approach.
- 3:52Well, wait a cheer me up, Aras.
- 3:56Thanks a lot, old buddy, old pal, there's a lot of this going around, and you know,
- 4:00there's probably some justification for it, let's be honest, something's going to happen
- 4:05in Ukraine, something's going to happen between China and Taiwan, something's going to happen
- 4:09in the US election, something's going to happen in the Middle East with Gaza and Israel,
- 4:14nonetheless, I want to clarify or emphasize that in terms of the reality on the ground
- 4:21in Western liberal democracies, we have it very good, and the reason why most of us are
- 4:27depressed about the state of things is because the kinds of people who speak to us repeatedly
- 4:33and the kinds of people whose voices are amplified by algorithms on social media and the kinds
- 4:37of people who swim in the circles of progressive journalism like to be exercised about a particular
- 4:43set of problems that they continue talking about, and I include myself here as well, I'm
- 4:48not flawless in this, you know, I have my own hobby horses and we bang on about them a lot.
- 4:53I just want to take this opportunity to breathe with me a little bit yoga like, let's just
- 4:59do a bit Namaste and enjoy the reality, the good upsides of the reality that we also live
- 5:06in. A lot of talk about the election, of course, and here's something from Nate Silver on
- 5:14Twitter, he says this, you have the whole electorate basically screaming, Biden's too old,
- 5:20Nate Silver is a master, pollster, polling expert, there's a year's worth of campaign
- 5:25to go, very likely some reversion to the fundamentals, Trump's legal issues, probably
- 5:29a larger liability than they seem now, but still, Democrats can't say they weren't warned.
- 5:35There's a lot of talk about this, Biden's too old, Trump obviously has liabilities of
- 5:42his own. Some people say that basically any average Democrat could beat Donald Trump and
- 5:50any average Republican could beat Joe Biden, but we don't know which if either of them
- 5:57is going to beat the other because they both have such massive glaring liabilities.
- 6:03What Nate Silver is ignoring, or perhaps, oh, I could say he doesn't know it, but of course
- 6:07he knows it, is that in the United States of America, there is no party political system,
- 6:13the way that there is in a parliamentary democracy, like my homeland of Australia, or like in
- 6:18the UK or Canada, where a strong party decides on who its leader is going to be to take to
- 6:25the next electorate. I mean, the United States, you have primaries, presidential primaries,
- 6:29where stupid voters get to use the dumb tools of democracy to pick idiots, and there's
- 6:36no one to boot Biden out except for Biden, and there's no one to boot Trump out except
- 6:40for Trump. Surprisingly enough, they themselves are not keen on being booted out. That's
- 6:46why they're not doing the booting, so why they're not sticking the boot into themselves.
- 6:51So you could basically draw any incumbent Democratic governor from a hat and run him against
- 6:58or against Trump and expect that they would win. The reason they don't do that is not
- 7:03because Democrats are idiots. It's because there is no party system that has the ability
- 7:07to remove Biden from the ticket the way they would be in a parliamentary democracy. This
- 7:11is a point brought to my attention by a new book, which I'm really excited to read, which
- 7:15I haven't read yet, because I can't get my hands on it. It's called The Hollow Parties,
- 7:18The Many Pasts, and Disorder Present of American Party Politics by Daniel Schultzmann and Sam
- 7:24Rosenfeld, who I hope to have on this show, because it sounds fascinating. Basically,
- 7:28they say voters actually say they don't want Biden and say they don't want Trump, vast
- 7:36majority of voters, and yet they don't actually do the things that would be required because
- 7:41they're not that interested in politics. They don't want to sift through ranks of random
- 7:47governors and senators trying to identify which one of them suits them and their communities
- 7:53and which one is going to be better placed electorally. They don't want to go and volunteer
- 7:57for campaigns. They don't want to get involved in grassroots politics. They don't want to
- 8:01go door knocking. They don't want to give them money. What they want is a strong party
- 8:07that will pick somebody who they like and then they can go, I want A or I want B. That's
- 8:13basically what voters want. The American political system doesn't give them that. Hence, that's
- 8:17one, I thought, intriguing reason for American political dysfunction. But there's another,
- 8:24which is we're being deranged by our misconceptions about how bad things are. Take a look at this
- 8:31article. We've got climate change enters the therapy room in the New York Times. Ten years
- 8:38ago, psychologists proposed that a wide range of people would suffer anxiety and grief over
- 8:42climate. Skepticism about that idea is gone. It relates the story of a therapist named
- 8:51Dr. Doerty, Thomas J. Doerty. He's a psychologist in Portland who specializes in climate change
- 8:59anxiety. Of course, he's in Portland. Big hello to all of my beautiful Oregonian listeners
- 9:06and viewers out there. Doerty says, this is the New York Times. I'm quoting. So many people
- 9:12now come to him for this problem. He's built an entire practice around them. An 18-year-old
- 9:18student who sometimes experiences panic attacks, so severe she can't get out of bed. A 69-year-old
- 9:24glacial geologist who is sometimes overwhelmed with sadness when he looks at his grandchildren.
- 9:30A man in his 50s who erupts in frustration over his friend's consumption choices, unable to
- 9:37tolerate their chatter about vacations in Tuscany. While I empathize with him, I'm unable to
- 9:44tolerate my friend's chatter about their vacations as well. But that's just because hearing about
- 9:47other people's vacations is boring, not because I'm terrified about climate change, but I am terrified
- 9:51about climate change. But hang on, this is not healthy. This isn't right. Like my father was born
- 10:00in a refugee camp in 1943, a Jew, while a Nazis were stampedeing across Europe. When his mother
- 10:09got pregnant, do you think the world looked like a good place? Do you think she could have looked
- 10:14around and gone like, oh my goodness, I'm going to look at my grandchildren and what kind of
- 10:18world are they going to be in? Of course, she was being hunted by people who wanted to exterminate
- 10:23her entire race. She still had kids. She still looked at her grandkids with a certain level of
- 10:30optimism and hope. I mean, a thing's worse now than they were in 1943. I am worried about
- 10:39climate chaos. I'm worried because it's going to be expensive to fix. I'm worried because it's
- 10:46going to cause huge disruptions to agriculture and therefore to human populations. It could disrupt
- 10:53them on soon. It could lead to millions or hundreds of millions of refugees across South Asia.
- 11:01It could put enormous pressure on already fragile liberal democracies that will be dealing with
- 11:07social media and artificial intelligence and a whole bunch of other challenges this century. We
- 11:11don't need the additional hassle, essentially, of being constantly buffered by droughts and wildfires
- 11:18and cyclones and hurricanes and refugees pouring across our borders. It's going to be really,
- 11:24really disruptive, really annoying and really, really expensive and we're idiots for not having done
- 11:28more about it and we're idiots for not doing more right now. But to dwell on it as if it's
- 11:37the end of civilization or to think that your grandchildren, you know, the fate of your grandchildren
- 11:44is so dire that it makes you weep is perhaps to be consuming a little bit too much doom scrolling.
- 11:53Well, look at this, for example. Here's another piece. This is eco-anxiety. It's real. Here's how to
- 11:59cope. It's okay to feel stressed out and worried about climate change, but there are ways to work
- 12:03through your emotions. Here, a mental health professional breaks it down. And this, the climate crisis
- 12:10is worse than you can imagine rights pro-publica. Here's what happens if you try. If you try,
- 12:18if you try, here's what happens if you try to imagine how dire the climate crisis is. If you just
- 12:28try, you don't even want to know what happens. If you succeed in imagining how about the climate
- 12:34crisis is, then you just explode. You just evaporate. You're like the wicked witch of the west
- 12:39dissolving. You cease to be. The space-time continuum folds in on itself and you are no more. But if
- 12:45you just try to imagine the climate crisis, here's what happens. They have a whole piece about this.
- 12:51Pro-publica. Pro-publica or pro-publica. It sounds pretentious to say pro-publica,
- 12:56like a minitaliano or something. A climate scientist, this is pro-publica speaking,
- 13:02spent years trying to get people to pay attention to the disaster head. His wife is exhausted,
- 13:07his older son thinks there's no future, and nobody bit him. We'll use the outdoor toilet he built
- 13:11to shrink his carbon footprint. Good for him. Did he really build the outdoor toilet to shrink
- 13:20his carbon footprint? Or did he just want to get away from his wife? It's hard to know.
- 13:25It doesn't say, but if you even imagine what the truth is, pro-publica will write an article about
- 13:31how dire it is just to try. Here's another one. This is a peace in nature. These are academic
- 13:38things now. We're not just talking about clickbait. This is an academic journal, Nature Climate Change.
- 13:43A socio-ecological perspective on climate anxiety in children and adolescents.
- 13:52So now we're actually getting into clinically disturbing areas. Did you know that US climate
- 14:03emissions have fallen to the lowest level in over 30 years. Take a look at this. If you're watching
- 14:09the YouTube's United States Environmental Protection Agency, EPA, this is climate change indicators,
- 14:16and it's got a little graph where you can see emissions per capita going down steadily since 1990.
- 14:23Emissions per GDP going down even more sharply and even absolute emissions are on the decline.
- 14:30They're lower in the United States in over 30 years. Oil and gas production has soared to all time
- 14:38levels at the same time. So there's partly a technological good news story.
- 14:43And it's worth understanding also that the Doomsday scenarios about climate change,
- 14:49where we're in a kind of Mad Max Hellscape, where everything disintegrates and you know,
- 14:54you can't, there's no arable land and we're all just fighting over water.
- 14:58These are mostly predictions that were made about the possibility of there being
- 15:03an RCP, a representative concentration pathway of 8.5. This was the nightmare scenario of climate change.
- 15:16You don't read a lot about the fact that that eventuality is now incredibly unlikely.
- 15:24Thanks to the falling cost of solar power, improvements in lithium ion batteries,
- 15:30surging sales of electric vehicles, closures of coal plants, under economic pressure
- 15:36from cheap natural gas, which is not perfect, but a lot better. We could be doing more,
- 15:41we could be investing in nuclear power. Oh my goodness, he said nuclear power. That's not very good
- 15:45if you're a greenie. It should be. It should be on the table. But we don't hear a lot about the
- 15:52fact that the worst case scenarios for climate change are becoming so improbable that we seem
- 15:59to have dodged the bullet on those. And B, the more mild things that we should be doing and we need
- 16:05to be doing them a lot faster are actually happening in the background. So by all means,
- 16:10let's keep pushing for it. It's crazy that we're not doing more. But there's good news.
- 16:15There's this. So we're not only releasing less emissions. Here's a piece of US utility scale
- 16:23solar and storage prices drop more than 12% in the past year. Why didn't you see this article?
- 16:30Why didn't you see this article? I bet you didn't see that the installed cost of solar photovoltaic
- 16:37and battery storage systems continued to drop and that utility scale solar systems are 12.3
- 16:45percent down in cost. This is a new report from the National Renewable Energy Lab. Why don't we
- 16:53see that because it's a bit boring, isn't it? I mean, even as I was just reading it, I was thinking,
- 16:58am I going to lose listeners and viewers when I talk about this? It's a bit dry. Blah blah blah.
- 17:03Good news. Can't I see some footage of a black person being shot by police? It'll be a bit
- 17:07more exciting. Here's another one. America's carbon emissions. Take a look at this.
- 17:13Fell for the first time since COVID. We're back to emitting like it's 1991. Even though we have
- 17:19a much bigger economy, that's from heat map. These are not like right-wing places, right? This is
- 17:23an article by Robinson Meyer, who's the founding executive editor of heat map. He was previously a
- 17:28staff writer at the Atlantic where he covered climate change, energy and technology. One reason why
- 17:35I find this whole news about climate change particularly heartening is because
- 17:40taking action on climate change is not actually very popular. Like you ask people in a poll,
- 17:46do you want to do something about climate change? They go absolutely for sure. We need to do something
- 17:51about climate. I'm going to write a big banner that said climate action now. And then you say to
- 17:57them, how much more would you be willing to pay on your electricity bill to fight climate? They go,
- 18:01oh, I wouldn't pay them more. Would you pay $10 a month? No. What? $10 a month. Are you kidding me?
- 18:07That's Netflix. I could have an extra Netflix. I could have two ice creams for that price.
- 18:13So you ask people, this is literal. I mean, this is a true. I'm not making that up. You ask people
- 18:20whether they would pay $100 a year to fight climate change. Only one-third of Americans say yes.
- 18:27That's when you say would you be willing to pay $10 a month more in electricity bills to fight
- 18:31climate change? Most people say no. And the problem with that is not just that people are stingy.
- 18:39They're not because they're willing to spend money on all kinds of things. The problem is that
- 18:43it gives you an understanding of just how shallow people's commitment to climate change,
- 18:47at least in America, is they'll say they want to do something about it because who wouldn't?
- 18:52It's like asking them, you know, well, do you like kittens? Do you want to do good things for kittens?
- 18:57Of course I do. Do you want to spend $10 a month on kittens? Fuck no.
- 19:00Let the kittens starve and get taken by eagles and just kittens.
- 19:05So the fact that the government of the Biden administration and the Democrats are actually doing
- 19:09quite a lot on climate change and the Biden administration, if you're not aware, has been the
- 19:13most aggressive climate change administration in history by far, gives a good indication that
- 19:20quietly in the background, you know, good things are happening. We just don't amplify them
- 19:25because they're not sexy and they're not click baity. It's wise that we don't amplify them,
- 19:30by the way, because the things that parties really care about doing that aren't very popular
- 19:37should be done on the slide. It's a little bit like Republicans cutting taxes for rich people.
- 19:42You don't hear them talk about it much because it's wildly unpopular, but at every opportunity
- 19:46they can, they cut taxes for rich people. Similarly, if you're a Democrat, if you're on the left,
- 19:51you really want to do something about climate change, you should just do stuff about climate change
- 19:55and don't talk about it terribly much because it's not very popular. Another good news story that
- 20:01I wanted to bring to your attention for 2024, and this is good news from a partisan perspective
- 20:05because I want to give credit to the Biden administration where people don't seem to be giving
- 20:09it credit in this American election year, is there are all kinds of things that have been done with
- 20:16Medicare in America that I'm not sure you know about. There's a lot more attention to things
- 20:21like student loan relief, for example. Why? Because conservatives and Fox News like talking about
- 20:26student loan relief because they like talking about the fact that money is being stolen from hard
- 20:31working plumbers and given to kids to do stupid degrees in gender studies. They don't like talking
- 20:38about these rich fat cat old people who are getting wealthy off the public teach by getting too
- 20:44much health care, which is a story they could also run but wouldn't be terribly popular. The Biden
- 20:49administration has done a few big things relating to Medicare and prescription drugs. They've
- 20:54negotiated down the price of 10 big prescription drugs. This is all part of the inflation reduction
- 21:01act, by the way. You know how like nothing can get done by Congress in America unless you do
- 21:07everything in one huge act and you call it the we love kittens act and everybody signs onto it
- 21:13and then you just stuff it full of all the things that you want to get done. Well the Democrats did
- 21:16that with the inflation reduction act negotiating down the price of 10 big prescription drugs,
- 21:22putting a cap on the amount that you can pay for prescription drugs. I mean that's huge every
- 21:27year so you don't have to pay more than a certain amount if you're on Medicare. Introducing a tax
- 21:32that discourages companies from raising prescription drug prices and importantly given that Americans
- 21:40are so bloody fat and so many of them are getting diabetes, the Biden administration
- 21:45kept the price of insulin at $35 a month. They've also undertaken these student loan forgiveness
- 21:53initiatives which you hear a lot more about partly because as I said folks news and the
- 21:58conservatives like talking about them because they can demonize them but also partly because the
- 22:01chattering classes like me, the sort of you know general lefty, journal kind of a little bit
- 22:07woke journalism people love talking about student loan debt because they have student loan debt
- 22:14and they're not old people on Medicare. If you looked at the coverage of especially on Twitter
- 22:21and social media things that the Biden administration has done, you'd hear a lot and see a lot
- 22:27of blather about student loan forgiveness and not a huge amount about the much more important
- 22:33reforms that they've made to Medicare. In spite of the fact that a much bigger share of the
- 22:37population is on Medicare than has student loans, 50% more Americans currently receive Medicare
- 22:44than have student loan debt. Not to mention the fact that 100% of Americans who survive
- 22:50into old age will be on Medicare whereas you know only a fraction of people will ever have
- 22:56student loan debt. So this is just one phenomenon one way of looking at the phenomenon of the
- 23:01way that things land for you because of what you see on social media and what you see online
- 23:07is filtered of course through the prism of the biases of the people who are doing the
- 23:12reporting. So let's look at some good news, some other good news shall we? Here's a good one.
- 23:19This is a story about the San Francisco barge, the Bay Area Rapid Transit Authority. This is
- 23:292024, January 2024. It has a new project which is called the Fleet of the Future
- 23:37Cars for San Francisco's Metro. It has come in under budget and faster than they expected.
- 23:45It'll cost $394 million less than when the contract was awarded in 2012. This is hilarious
- 23:52that it takes the 2012 is when it started. Wow, you talk about like imagine China or like Saudi
- 23:58Arabia announcing an upgrade to their Metro in like I don't know Dubai or Shanghai. Yes, I know
- 24:07Dubai is in the UAE, not Saudi Arabia. You get my point. It would be done in four months and it
- 24:12would cost whatever they want it to cost. But here it was 2012, what was announced? This is 12 years
- 24:15later. But $400 million less and the Fleet of the Future is a success story, 775 cars. It
- 24:23only cost $2.5 billion instead of $2.5 billion and now San Francisco is the better for it.
- 24:32Why didn't you see a story about that? Why is this the first that you're hearing about that?
- 24:38Because you haven't been listening to all zeps. That's why. Not that I've been talking about it much
- 24:44either, but I am now redeeming myself. These are the sorts of stories that if you actually wanted
- 24:51people to think that the left is sane, you would spend time talking about. Here's an example
- 24:58of public transport being run by a city in a way that is delivering results for commuters and is
- 25:08keeping pace with the latest technology and is coming in under budget. That should be the good
- 25:13new story that MSNBC and lefties that I don't know the Guardian and the New York Times are talking
- 25:18about all the time. Instead, they're talking about their hobby horses, student loan debt and
- 25:24cultural war stuff. Here's another good story. I like this one too. Insurance is coming back to
- 25:30healthcare. The rate of uninsured people in America has dropped dramatically since 2021.
- 25:39The enrollment in the Obamacare marketplaces is up 25% compared to 2023 compared to last year
- 25:45and nearly 80% compared to 2020. The number of uninsured people in America who don't have health
- 25:51insurance is at an all-time low. Here's another good news. USA Today, do you need an urgent operation
- 25:58or prescription? Your wait time for approval just got cut down. This is a new federal rules,
- 26:03another Biden administration rule, which was just unveiled last week as of the time of recording.
- 26:10Mid-January, doctors are cheering this new federal rule, which will speed up health insurance
- 26:15company decisions on whether to authorize or deny medical care or treatments for millions of
- 26:19patients. It basically means that the health insurance industry can't drag their feet
- 26:27anymore. Things are getting better for healthcare in the United States. I'm just offering these
- 26:32things not necessarily as a way to say that everything's fine and dandy, but as little jigsaw
- 26:39pieces, little mosaics, shall we say, in an overall tapestry of things getting generally better
- 26:48in incremental ways for people. I'm specifically talking about America, but you could take the
- 26:53analogy for pretty much any Western liberal democracy when center left parties are allowed to make
- 26:58incremental change. It's not sexy and it's not glamorous and it doesn't grab you by the scruff
- 27:04of the neck and shake you around and it's not exciting. But this is the bread and butter, this is
- 27:09the meat of good governance. The problem is that most of the people who talk about governance,
- 27:15who talk about politics and who discuss the political horse race are a type of sort of left-wing
- 27:23young, educated, urbanite. They are part of the democratic party or they are part of the center
- 27:29left, but that doesn't mean that they actually reflect the views of what left-wing voters are
- 27:33particularly interested in. They're not representing the views of Hispanic union members
- 27:40or elderly church-going black women. They are young, largely white, university-educated lefties
- 27:48and they are the ones who are deciding what the left-wing narrative tends to be, which brings
- 27:54me to my real point here. There's a fascinating paper by Catherine Gimber and Lisa Bates,
- 28:03Seth Prins and Catherine Keys. It's entitled and I'll show it to you here if you're on YouTube,
- 28:08the politics of depression diverging trends in internalizing symptoms among U.S.
- 28:14adolescents by political beliefs. This is in the Journal of Mental Health. This is a survey
- 28:24about the divergence in depression by political ideology and also by gender. It finds that young people
- 28:34are, let's just say, they're not upbeat at the moment. You may have noticed this. The youngsters
- 28:44aren't okay. I think everything is shitty. This paper basically affirms the reasons why and
- 28:53says how could you expect them to be upbeat? We're basically in Nazi Germany in 1943, aren't we?
- 29:02I'll allow me to quote from this paper. They talk about this period when the adolescents of
- 29:10today were coming of age and they say structural racism, police violence against black people,
- 29:17pervasive sexism and sexual assault and rampant socioeconomic inequality became unavoidable features
- 29:25of political discourse. That is, they're talking about over the past five years or so.
- 29:33Now, that's true, but a very interesting point was made by one of my favorite analysts who,
- 29:40if you're a regular listener of this podcast, you'll have heard me bang on about before. Matt
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- 31:45also add that you are making a vote essentially for independent media. For those of you who aren't
- 31:52familiar with my career I've just left the public broadcaster the ABC where I had a daily three hour
- 31:58talk radio show and just felt like I was too spicy for that place and there were not there were
- 32:06conversations that I couldn't have there that I want to be able to have and there was no financial
- 32:10reason to not be doing this independently but that financial ability for me to operate independently
- 32:15is contingent on and dependent on you good people bothering to get out your phone and go to
- 32:22substack and click on the subscribe button and throw some production money away I promise I'm
- 32:29not going to spend it on hookers and blow and three trips to Rio it will be reinvested back into
- 32:34this operation and you can consider it something of a vote I just sort of have for me I have a pool
- 32:40of money that I put aside you know it might only be you know maybe it's 50 or 80 bucks a month
- 32:47something like what you used to pay for a cable television subscription and that is the money that
- 32:53you spend on voting for independent media and in voting for fighting out about the world in ways
- 32:59that you can don't now that you might want to spend that on Alex Jones you might want to spend
- 33:02that on wild-eyed communists and revolutionaries or if you're listening to this and you're still
- 33:08this far into the episode maybe you like the cut of my jib in which case make it possible for
- 33:13people like me to do what we do throw some some shackles and subscribe and then you get the
- 33:19benefit as well by getting all of this great content nonetheless that's not my point
- 33:23although that was a lovely and self-serving and secure this diversion I must say
- 33:29so Madaglaceus talks about this piece this this this journal article analyzing the depression
- 33:36of young people and attributing it to structural racism police violence against black people
- 33:42pervasive sexism sexual assault rampant socioeconomic inequality becoming unavoidable features
- 33:48of political discourse and Matt says that sounds to him less like a causal explanation of why
- 33:57progressive teens are more depressed than it does like listening to a depressed liberal
- 34:05given account of recent American politics he says note for example the negative framing of the
- 34:13fact that progressives have used their agenda setting power to make structural racism
- 34:18and pervasive sexism and rampant socioeconomic inequality into unavoidable features of political
- 34:24discourse one could instead write Matt say this is what the path to victory looks like progressive
- 34:33activists and intellectuals have succeeded in getting more people to pay attention to what they
- 34:40think are the most important problems just notice that just notice that when you're scrolling
- 34:48around on social media and you're listening to blowhards bang on about the woes of the world
- 34:55they are talking from perspectives that reflect their biases they are talking about things that
- 35:04they wish to amplify that they wish to disseminate and they're often talking through a filter of
- 35:10an algorithm that is selecting things that will agitate you that will either reinforce things
- 35:16you already believe or that will demonize positions that you don't agree with that will trap
- 35:22you more and more in an echo chamber so the fact that we're talking a lot and paying attention to
- 35:29the dispossession of people to racial injustice to white supremacy to whatever else might be getting
- 35:35you down is itself evidence of progress of the fact that we are shining a light on things that
- 35:42previously didn't have a light shown on them and when you know an asteroid is headed towards the
- 35:49earth and there actually is a concrete real and imminent threat to humankind then we can all
- 35:55focus on that but until then let us enter 2024 with a spirit of optimism aware to the challenges
- 36:04that exist up for being big enough to defend Western liberal democracy against Putin against
- 36:12Xi Jinping should they try anything further but let's also be proud of ourselves for what we've
- 36:19achieved and grateful to the people who have bequeathed us with the goodies that we currently enjoy
- 36:25so I'm going into 2024 excited for myself excited for my family full of gratitude to the people
- 36:32around me full of gratitude to you for allowing me this exploration and I invite you to do the same
- 36:37for all of its faults it is still a beautiful world enjoy it I'll see you next week