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FTTxJT 062526 "Cuccinelli on Citizenship vs Housing" · First Thing Today with Joe Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Local and corporate controlled. Is still corporate controlled. This is
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  Speaker 1: independence from Virginia again. First thing today, find Shoe Thomas
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  Speaker 1: on the Talk meeting.
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  Speaker 2: The word for nothing left, nothing left all she left
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  Speaker 2: for me celebrating Pride Month, and I appreciate you enjoying
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  Speaker 2: it where you are.
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  Speaker 3: Freedom.
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  Speaker 4: Freedom just another word for nothing left to lose. And boy,
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  Speaker 4: we are doing everything we can to wrest defeat from
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  Speaker 4: the Johns of Victory joining us from the Election Transparency
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  Speaker 4: Initiative and former let's go down the resume. Attorney General
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  Speaker 4: for the Commonwealth of Virginia, well, Senator from the common
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  Speaker 4: Aalth of Virginia, gubernatorial candidate from the common Health of Virginia,
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  Speaker 4: and Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security under President Trump.
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  Speaker 4: Plus you know, he's got an engineering degree and a
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  Speaker 4: law degree and he's just a show off in general.
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  Speaker 4: He is the great Ken Kochinelli. How are you doing, Ken,
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  Speaker 4: I'm doing good.
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  Speaker 5: I assume your listeners know you're talking about Charlie Pride.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, there a couple of them didn't get it
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  Speaker 4: at first, but they they did after a bit. They're like,
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  Speaker 4: oh yeah, so that lots.
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  Speaker 5: We're all on the same page. Angel in the morning.
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  Speaker 3: Baby, that's right, you got it. I've got to ask.
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  Speaker 4: I know we're trying to get the Save America Act
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  Speaker 4: pay paid and passed, and it's been befuddling to me
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  Speaker 4: how Republicans can oppose it, unless like Rick Scott. I'm
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  Speaker 4: sure he wants to run on it in twenty twenty
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  Speaker 4: eight when he runs against JD. Van for the GOP nomination.
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  Speaker 4: That's just me reading the tea leaves. Not that Rick
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  Speaker 4: Scott has ever done anything like that before. But but
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  Speaker 4: now now we've got President Trump saying he won't sign
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  Speaker 4: this awful housing Act from Focahontas and Maxine Waters, although
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  Speaker 4: it might be worth it to see the two of
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  Speaker 4: them in the room with Donald Trump at the signing ceremony,
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  Speaker 4: but he won't sign it until they passed the Save Act,
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  Speaker 4: which we talked about last well.
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  Speaker 5: So he has sometimes he has said that in the past,
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  Speaker 5: but he didn't veto the bill, right, He just said,
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna wait. And first of all, I have to
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  Speaker 5: say that the Election Transparency Initiative, we appreciate him not
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  Speaker 5: going ahead and signing the bill. Yes, it's a bad bill,
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  Speaker 5: you and I can talk about that. But the Save
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  Speaker 5: Act is worth that bad bill. And if he, you know,
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  Speaker 5: nothing's going to come out of Congress in the next week.
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  Speaker 5: And so if he doesn't act on it, it becomes law.
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  Speaker 5: So now the question is will he really veto it?
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  Speaker 5: And we need him to veto it. I mean, there's
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  Speaker 5: no other way to get the Save Act than to
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  Speaker 5: make these folks have to attach it to something they
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  Speaker 5: really want, which is called in DC must pass legislation.
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  Speaker 5: That doesn't mean it must pass or the world will end.
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  Speaker 5: It means that people in Congress it's like once you
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  Speaker 5: see the toilet, Joe, then then there's no like waiting
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  Speaker 5: for the next one. Right, you have got to go
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  Speaker 5: and you've got to use that toilet. That is must
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  Speaker 5: that is must go situation. So legislation that we call
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  Speaker 5: must pass legislation is the same thing. They just think
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  Speaker 5: they have to have it and there's no other alternative.
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  Speaker 5: And once they once they do, then whatever you attach
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  Speaker 5: to it gets passed. So the Save Act.
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  Speaker 4: So you think that you know, if you and here's
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  Speaker 4: the thought and as you were talking, aside from the
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  Speaker 4: shy bladder inclinations, you put into my head the if
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  Speaker 4: if you pass the Save Act, then you get better
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  Speaker 4: representatives who can then go into Congress later on because
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  Speaker 4: only American citizens are voting and fix maybe even repeal
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  Speaker 4: this this Road to Housing Act. Is that what I'm
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  Speaker 4: kind of catching from.
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  Speaker 5: You, not only that you have greater confidence across the
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  Speaker 5: board in America's elections. I mean these whoever wins, you
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  Speaker 5: believe it more? Right, do you believe it more? Because
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  Speaker 5: it's a more credible system. And uh, you know, I
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  Speaker 5: will say, we're going to have the opportunity this summer,
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  Speaker 5: not this summer, but this fall for.
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  Speaker 4: Ken Ken Oh crud, you said we're going to have
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  Speaker 4: an opportunity for Columbia.
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  Speaker 5: The nation of Columbia, which most of us have thought
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  Speaker 5: of as a third World nation, had their second round
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  Speaker 5: of presidential voting Sunday and they have more people than
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  Speaker 5: California and they hand counted ninety nine point eight percent
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  Speaker 5: of the votes in three hours. Well California is still counting.
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  Speaker 5: So you tell me who's the Banana Republic?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, well, without question?
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  Speaker 4: And I know you you cut out right as you
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  Speaker 4: were saying we have a chance this November. But you know,
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  Speaker 4: I think you mean in the mid term elections to
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  Speaker 4: see you know what is going on. So what do
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  Speaker 4: you make of this Boston ruling on the president's executive
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  Speaker 4: action on citizenship there? Does that have any weight in
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  Speaker 4: terms of the Save America Act? Or is this simply
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  Speaker 4: accepting the the argument that the Democrat ags had that
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  Speaker 4: this is up to Congress and the Constitution, which I
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  Speaker 4: guess then says, well, then then it's the Save Act,
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  Speaker 4: isn't it.
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  Speaker 5: So let's be careful here. So there is a SAVE
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  Speaker 5: database same acronym, that is run by United States Citizenship
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  Speaker 5: and Immigration Services, which I used to lead. It is
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  Speaker 5: the legal immigration agency and for every non citizen who
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  Speaker 5: has contact with the United States government, they have a
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  Speaker 5: file there. The only people who donor the godaways who
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  Speaker 5: never touched anyone at the border, okay. And so that
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  Speaker 5: database it isn't the database of citizens, ironically, it's a
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  Speaker 5: database of non citizens, okay. And so it has always
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  Speaker 5: been available to the States to use when people read
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  Speaker 5: to vote. It is also used in the real ID program.
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  Speaker 5: This is what's so mystifying by this judge's ruling. So
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  Speaker 5: this database is already used under law, and you know,
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  Speaker 5: so I this is a ruling that's just interfering with
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  Speaker 5: President Trump it's a ruling no other president would get,
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  Speaker 5: and I expect that a decent court of appeals will
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  Speaker 5: overrule it. It is intended to be a stick in
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  Speaker 5: his bicycle tires, and it is frankly, but to your point,
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  Speaker 5: it once the Save Act is passed, it's all statutory.
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  Speaker 5: There's no executive order, there's none of none of that anymore.
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  Speaker 5: It's all statutory. And the Congress has plenary authority over
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  Speaker 5: things like elections and over immigration. So you get a
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  Speaker 5: combination of two areas of broad congressional authority coming together.
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  Speaker 5: So the Save Act is very important to avoid judicial
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  Speaker 5: actions like this one that you just described. And the
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  Speaker 5: fact is there are other court rulings at the federal
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  Speaker 5: level that interfere with state's abilities to check citizenship. It
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  Speaker 5: is technically illegal for non citizens to vote in federal
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  Speaker 5: elections today. States have no way to enforce it, in
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  Speaker 5: no way to enforce it because of court rulings and
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  Speaker 5: bad federal legislation. So it's one of those things that
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  Speaker 5: can only be fixed in Washington. It has to be
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  Speaker 5: fixed in Washington.
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's right, and you know it's sad you have
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  Speaker 4: to say technically illegal. You would just think duh. Of
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  Speaker 4: course it's not. You know, but Duh is not a
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  Speaker 4: legal president, although it feels more and more like it, Kuchina.
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  Speaker 5: It seems more jurisprudential than say, the ruling in Boston.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, I yes, it does the court rules. Duh.
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  Speaker 1: It was the sounds that plagis have strut question for
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  Speaker 1: you from Joe Thomas. It's first thing today.
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  Speaker 4: It's unbelievable to be that people are against this stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Ken Kuchinele Election Transparency Initiative talking about the Save Act
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  Speaker 4: making sure that just American citizens vote. Ken, you were
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  Speaker 4: telling me numbers just a minute ago. Remind me again,
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  Speaker 4: you know the popularity of just making sure that American
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  Speaker 4: citizens are participating in American elections is is not just
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  Speaker 4: like fifty one forty nine?
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  Speaker 3: Is it?
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  Speaker 5: At right wing bastion of CNN their own polling, they
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  Speaker 5: were reporting on Democrat voters having seventy one percent support,
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  Speaker 5: for example, for the key elements of the safe votor
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  Speaker 5: ID and the citizenship confirmation prior to registration. So you know,
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  Speaker 5: when that part of the vast right wing conspiracy is
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  Speaker 5: reporting over seventy percent Democrat support, you know you are
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  Speaker 5: in consensus land of an American policy.
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  Speaker 3: This is what makes this so paffling to me.
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  Speaker 4: This is why the last time you were on with US,
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  Speaker 4: I said, is there something hidden in here?
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  Speaker 3: Is there a.
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  Speaker 4: Poisoned pill that's gonna you know, make this like the
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  Speaker 4: housing controls that are in this Focahontas bill that they
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  Speaker 4: were talking about. But you you said in the break
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  Speaker 4: just there, you want to make sure everyone knows housing
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  Speaker 4: bill or not he's got to get the Save Act passed.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think he will?
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  Speaker 5: He will if he's willing to do things like veto
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  Speaker 5: the housing bill. If he just holds it up for
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  Speaker 5: a while to irritate them, then they will know they
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  Speaker 5: can outlast him, and you know, it'll be sort of
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  Speaker 5: other people will will start talking about taco again. How
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  Speaker 5: did he talk? You know, Trump always chickens out.
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  Speaker 3: Oh I never heard that.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I never heard real Yeah. I don't
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  Speaker 4: get Chuck Schumer's emails anymore.
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  Speaker 5: So. Well, and speaking of Chuck Schumer, Chuck Schumer said
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  Speaker 5: the Save Act will not twenty five million people off
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  Speaker 5: the voter rolls, which to me seems like an admission
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  Speaker 5: by Chuck Schumer that twenty five million non citizens are
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  Speaker 5: registered to vote.
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  Speaker 3: Seems to be because those are.
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  Speaker 5: The only people that and it doesn't even happen immediately.
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  Speaker 5: The Save Act only works on a going forward basis.
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  Speaker 5: You mentioned real id winded admission by Chuck.
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  Speaker 4: You mentioned real id as well. Didn't we all go
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  Speaker 4: through this procedure? I mean, one of the I think
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  Speaker 4: Lisa work Houseki's argument is that apparently Alaskans don't know
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  Speaker 4: where their stuff is hidden and therefore she can't support it.
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  Speaker 3: It's her argument.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just reposting it.
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  Speaker 3: But didn't we all just go through this with real ID.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, I've got the envelope that I had to
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  Speaker 4: order my new birth certificate in because I couldn't find mine.
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  Speaker 4: I don't disagree that sometimes you don't use it for
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  Speaker 4: a while you can't find it. I'm better at saving
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  Speaker 4: it now than I was, but I knew where to
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  Speaker 4: get one. I just called Queens, New York and said, hey,
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  Speaker 4: Joseph A. Thomas nineteen sixty three, and I'm like, all right,
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  Speaker 4: I think it was like twenty five bucks and they
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  Speaker 4: send me a new one, and now I have one.
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  Speaker 4: And I hated the idea of the real ID, but
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  Speaker 4: I got one, and looks like we all did that.
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  Speaker 3: What is the beef.
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  Speaker 5: So from for TSA data because you got to use
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  Speaker 5: them to fly on planes? Now, a little over two
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  Speaker 5: thirds Americans of the appropriate age have real ideas. Now
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  Speaker 5: now that TSA has stopped pushing back the activation date,
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  Speaker 5: they did that for fifteen years. Yeah, that number is
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  Speaker 5: likely to once again jump up. But you're right, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: we've been through this process and it's very similar and
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  Speaker 5: even in the Murkowski case, when you got the Arctic
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  Speaker 5: Circle people and you've got no documents at all, and
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  Speaker 5: everybody knows everybody, there is a fallback provision in there.
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  Speaker 5: And so Lisa Murkowski's explanation is not an accurate description
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  Speaker 5: of what the bill doesn't do. It is an excuse
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  Speaker 5: that relies on people not reading and understanding the bill, which.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe she did there. You know, when you when you
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  Speaker 4: were Attorney General of the Commonwealth of Virginia, they upgraded,
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  Speaker 4: serious upgraded the voter ID at the polling place provisions
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  Speaker 4: photo ID, and and over the hues and cries of
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  Speaker 4: the Democrats in Virginia and Governor McDonald at the time.
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  Speaker 3: Said, Okay, well, here's what we'll do.
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  Speaker 4: We will pay for a state issued photo ID for
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  Speaker 4: anyone who doesn't have one, just.
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  Speaker 5: To and a mobile unit to drive around and get
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  Speaker 5: to that's right.
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  Speaker 4: I forgot about the mobile unit to go to your Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: we'll take your picture for you. So and it was
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  Speaker 4: a paltry number of people that wound up taking advantage
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  Speaker 4: of it is statistic.
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  Speaker 5: You know, Joe, that's a great point, and it's one
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  Speaker 5: that has periodically come up. I'd love to know what
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  Speaker 5: that number was.
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  Speaker 4: I think it was in the hundred is it wasn't
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  Speaker 4: It wasn't over a thousand people, you know. But but
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  Speaker 4: one of the things that did come out of it is,
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  Speaker 4: you know, a lot of letters got sent to people saying, hey,
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  Speaker 4: you're going to need photo ID, because that was another step.
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  Speaker 4: And this is where I was going with this, is
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  Speaker 4: that the Commonwealth mailed letters home to everyone who was
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  Speaker 4: on the voter rolls. And a friend of mine was
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  Speaker 4: developing a piece of property, building a house on it,
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  Speaker 4: and a letter arrived at at the property. He was
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  Speaker 4: building the first house ever on this piece of land,
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  Speaker 4: and apparently somebody was registered to vote at this plot address,
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  Speaker 4: and he brought it to the commonwealths attorney, who was
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  Speaker 4: a Democrat. So of course they said, I can't do
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  Speaker 4: anything about this, it's a state matter or something silly
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  Speaker 4: like that. But I mean, it was like an exploding
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  Speaker 4: bank bag putting blue dye on all these places that
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  Speaker 4: people had fraudulently registered to vote, driving along saying oh.
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  Speaker 3: What's the address of that patch of trees?
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  Speaker 5: Well, and the reality is two percent of Americans move
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  Speaker 5: every month. Every month, folks, that's forty eight percent in
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  Speaker 5: a two year congressional cycle. And when you moved last,
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  Speaker 5: did you, you know, contact where you were moving from
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  Speaker 5: and tell them to take you off the voter rolls. No,
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  Speaker 5: you go registered at the new place, and you expect
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  Speaker 5: them all to communicate, right, and now they don't And
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  Speaker 5: sometimes that happens and sometimes it don't.
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, and I know that we tried to come
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  Speaker 4: up with some databases. We realized that the Democrats pulled
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  Speaker 4: a bate and switched with the Eric database. But you know,
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  Speaker 4: unforeseen consequences. So what's coming next at ETI is it's
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  Speaker 4: still you know, getting the word out about the Save
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  Speaker 4: America Act. Ken is that you know, the full focus
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  Speaker 4: of this.
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  Speaker 5: Is certainly our highest priority right now. And we were
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  Speaker 5: very happy with President Trump's commitment demonstrated commitment to election
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  Speaker 5: integrity when he declined to sign the Housing bill unlesson
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  Speaker 5: until the Save America was passed, either with it or separately,
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  Speaker 5: and he just wasn't super clear that he was going
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  Speaker 5: to veto it. He just said, I'm not signing it.
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  Speaker 5: So that we're certainly encouraging him in the administration to
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  Speaker 5: stand on the election integrity issue that he has been
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  Speaker 5: such a champion of over the last five years, and
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  Speaker 5: to stick to his guns on this. It is critically
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  Speaker 5: important and it is a It is the single best
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  Speaker 5: way to across the board upgrade the quality of American elections.
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  Speaker 5: Oh and yes, it would be nice if they didn't
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  Speaker 5: some states didn't just mail ballots out all over the
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  Speaker 5: place like California does. But at the same time, if
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  Speaker 5: in returning those ballots, one has to prove who they
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  Speaker 5: are in some way. You introduce a backside security before
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  Speaker 5: a vote goes in the box, and.
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  Speaker 3: That's critically important.
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  Speaker 5: Fighting about these things after votes have been cast is
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  Speaker 5: a hopeless cause. I can tell you as a former
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  Speaker 5: prosecutor that you know the investigation in parsing apart voter fraud,
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  Speaker 5: which in our system you have to criminally treat one
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  Speaker 5: instance at a time. Right, and take a presidential election
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  Speaker 5: where the Electoral College is going to meet on December fourteenth,
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  Speaker 5: you have five weeks. Yeah, well, that's just not enough
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  Speaker 5: time to do that work. So we have to secure
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  Speaker 5: elections on the front end. Americans want us to do that,
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  Speaker 5: as you and I talked about earlier. Even the CNN
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  Speaker 5: polling shows over seventy percent of even democrats want these
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  Speaker 5: protections and it is the It is the priority at
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  Speaker 5: the Election Transparency Initiative which people can get to an
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  Speaker 5: Election Transparency dot Org.
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  Speaker 5: Cap when he walks his dumb boots flip popluf. He
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  Speaker 5: going and a drinks about Dennis boccat.
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  Speaker 7: Call team.
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  Speaker 2: Shows fighting up Litto, O love them, Louisiana's w g
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  Speaker 2: s O down there.
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  Speaker 4: Uh and uh, I want to kN Kutchinelli. You know,
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  Speaker 4: worked many years with Senate candidates trying to get them
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  Speaker 4: prepped up to be as best you can be. And
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: this presidential meeting over the Save America at Ken Election
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  Speaker 4: Transparency initiative. But I want to ask tell me this
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  Speaker 4: Senate meeting, this brunch meeting where even Bill Cassidy came
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  Speaker 4: out and I guess then JD. Vance and Marco Rubio
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  Speaker 4: sat down with him. His apparent beef was over the
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: war in Iran, and Rubio and JD Vance sat down
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  Speaker 4: with him, and he came out and said, well, I
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  Speaker 4: really appreciate them explaining it to me, that's a whole
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  Speaker 4: different thing. What is going on with the Senate. Is
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: it really just puffery of people trying to, you know,
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  Speaker 4: get their fifteen minutes of campaign video.
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  Speaker 5: Well, Cassidy, of course is lost. The real reason that
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: he was all puffy is because he lost. He came
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: in third in his primary, really bad, and he didn't
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  Speaker 5: even make the runoff. And he's ticked in part at
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: the President over that the Senate. In general, Republicans expect
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: a president to just need jerkingly support all their incumbents. Well,
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: President Trump didn't support John Corny and he supported Ken Paxton,
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  Speaker 5: didn't support Cassidy, and they're you know, they're going to
• 23:03
  Speaker 5: be in the Senate for six more months and they
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: don't give a flying rip what this president thinks. So
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  Speaker 5: not anymore. Nonetheless, the Save Act, you don't have to
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  Speaker 5: do this for the president, do it for America. And
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  Speaker 5: they all know it would help tremendously. And frankly, both
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: Cassidy and Cornin have voted for the Save Act, so
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: that part, that part isn't in question. I think they
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: object to having their House it Commie housing bill interfered
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  Speaker 5: with because of this pesky Save Act that all these
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: plebeian conservative grassroots people want. And by the way, it
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: isn't just conservatives. I mean even CNN notes that over
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  Speaker 5: seventy percent of Americans, including over seventy percent of Democrats,
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: want voter ID for example. So there are every part
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: of the Save Act not true. The President wants a
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: male and voting piece in there that is not seventy
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  Speaker 5: percent popular, but even his transgender stuff in there is
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: like seventy five eighty percent, citizenship confirmation eighty percent. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: these are eighty twenty seventy five, twenty five issues. They're
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  Speaker 5: wildly popular everywhere in America except the United States Senate.
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  Speaker 4: That's amazing to me to think about it. But that
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: goes back to something that I felt all along is
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: that the Senate has grown so unconstitutionally established, their current
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: position as super legislators has grown to be ridiculous to me.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: You know, they invent procedure and then act like James
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  Speaker 4: Madison himself wrote it into the Constitution, the cloture.
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  Speaker 3: And all this stuff. They act like this is stuff
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  Speaker 3: that either.
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  Speaker 4: Moses or James Madison himself wrote, and it's their own inventions,
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  Speaker 4: their own concoctions, just to give, like you mentioned, stop
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  Speaker 4: around and act like they have some authority they should,
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: but they're they're just abdicating it to gotcha moments.
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  Speaker 3: It seems.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I try to be in the habit of giving
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  Speaker 5: ultimate respect to the things that came from Moses and
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  Speaker 5: James Madison, but not necessarily the United States Senate. And
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: it's amazing how all of it seems designed for them
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  Speaker 5: not to do things. Now, granted, the founders were big
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: fans of not doing things, and as a general matter,
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: so am I. At the same time, I know that
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: when you run for the US Senate, just like when
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: I ran for the State Senate, you were running for
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: the opportunity to vote. And yet they put so much
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: effort into avoiding voting. They don't want to go on
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  Speaker 5: the record for anything. And critically, they don't make the
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: Democrats vote in a partisan circumstance here now they did
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: ultimately on the save back. And you know, it's pretty
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: hard for Mark Warner to explain why to the Virginians
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  Speaker 5: who seventy eighty percent support voter ID and citizenship confirmation,
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  Speaker 5: why he voted no on that? Do you think he
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: will be There's no good explanation.
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  Speaker 4: Do you think, yeah, I'm about to go to a
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: Senate debate tomorrow amongst the GOP hopefuls. Are you hopeful
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: that they will hold those feet to the fire.
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  Speaker 5: I absolutely expect to see that. I mean, it's one
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: when you have a no downside type of issue, and
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: no downside means of anyone who you ever have a
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: prayer of getting to vote for you, right If they
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: will never vote for you no matter what, and they
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: are absolutely going to show up and vote for your opponent,
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: then they stop being of great interest to you in
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: terms of the competition for vote support. Of course, if
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: you're elected, you represent everyone right right now, you got
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  Speaker 5: to get elected first, yep, hang U.
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  Speaker 4: Four three four eight eight two four two one seven.
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  Speaker 4: Ken KUTCHINELI the Election Transparency Initiative, and this is one
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  Speaker 4: of the things we were talking about, is when Republicans
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: don't want to do this, Ken, You know, Mike de
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  Speaker 4: Wine vetoed legislation that would have required voters to provide
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: their photo ID to cast a mail in ballot so
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: that you know who they are. Virginians used to require
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: a second signature on you know, a witness, which is
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: the last time Virginia was actually able to prosecute somebody
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: for committing voter fraud because a whole bunch of mail
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: in absentee ballots came in and the same guy was
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: on as the witness for all of them because they
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: came from a retirement community, and he was I think
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: it's the low hanging fruit is the activity director. The
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: Democrats would target activity directors because they interact with all
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: of the residents and in some cases he even signed
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: for the voter, which is also a crime. But that
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: was the last time, and that was like twenty ten.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: Just like every dollar that gets printed without any wealth
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: backing it up, each time a vote gets cast without
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: a citizen behind it, it's diluted the value of the
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: other ones. And when you leave a border open, when
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: you create abject poverty in your communities and then come
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: in and say I'm the only one who can fix
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: your abject poverty, you start to sense not a flaw
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: but a feature there. But for that we continue on tomorrow.
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: We'll watch and see what happens with the Save Act today.
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  Speaker 4: Can I appreciate it? As always? Election Transparency dot Org
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  Speaker 4: for you until five am Easter and tomorrow. I am
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: Joe Thomas, so long and thanks for all the fish