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Red and Blue: Jarom Jordan on BYU vs Iowa St Friday, Primetime slot on ABC for Notre Dame game + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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  Speaker 2: check in on the team down south with... Jerem Jordan, Jerem, welcome.
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  Speaker 2: How are you, sir?
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  Speaker 1: .
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  Speaker 2: .
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  Speaker 1: you know, I, I haven't had too
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  Speaker 1: many weird stumbles on BYU TV over the years, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: trust me. I got, I got some bowling alley lanes
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  Speaker 1: up at times. So it's all good. Have you guys
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  Speaker 1: got me good on that one?
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  Speaker 2: Speaker 0 1, you ever been caught on a hot
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  Speaker 2: mic at any time in your career?
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  Speaker 1: I think so. And I say weird things, but not
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  Speaker 1: bad things. So we're, we're good.
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  Speaker 2: All right. BYU remains undefeated top 10 team in the
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  Speaker 2: country again after Florida was more appropriately ranked this week
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  Speaker 2: than they were in the week previous when BYU was
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  Speaker 2: on a pie and got punished for it. And look,
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  Speaker 2: they remain undefeated in, I would say, not the most
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  Speaker 2: beautiful game that we've seen this BYU team play, but
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  Speaker 2: winning ugly is important. Great teams have to do it
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  Speaker 2: at some point during their season. It felt like this
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  Speaker 2: was the week that BYU had to pull out something
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  Speaker 2: kind of grimy and ugly. in a bad weather game
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  Speaker 2: against TCU. What was your reaction to that game being
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  Speaker 2: that close and I guess some of the offensive woes
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  Speaker 2: that BYU experienced?
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  Speaker 1: It was, it was good to pull that out because
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  Speaker 1: you know, in the second quarter I'm sitting there going, okay,
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  Speaker 1: you know, everything else be, be damned here. You just
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  Speaker 1: got to win. Like it was way more wet and
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  Speaker 1: the weather affected the game more than I think BYU
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  Speaker 1: thought they thought the rain would stop by the games
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  Speaker 1: game time, but then kind of just Missy and wet
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  Speaker 1: the whole time. BYU had false starts. They had some
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  Speaker 1: grounded snaps. They couldn't kind of get the run game going.
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  Speaker 1: And obviously when LJ Martin leaves the game, that changes
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  Speaker 1: a lot. He's just so important to what BYU is doing.
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  Speaker 1: And then, you know, both quarterbacks had trouble gripping the ball.
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  Speaker 1: And so at that point, it's like just survive and win.
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  Speaker 1: I talked to Aaron Roderick yesterday for a minute and
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  Speaker 1: he said, every great team that I've been on, and
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  Speaker 1: he's referring to Utah and BYU, we had to win
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  Speaker 1: at least one or two of those kinds of games
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  Speaker 1: a year. And that was it for BYU. You also
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  Speaker 1: have to acknowledge that TCU's D third best run defense
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  Speaker 1: to be oil faces here. Let's talk about Notre Dame,
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  Speaker 1: Utah and TCU, you know, for BYU to just win
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  Speaker 1: the game somehow that was great because you're on the
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  Speaker 1: road and it's, it's a, you know, an opponent that
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  Speaker 1: yes has struggled, but it has a good defense and
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  Speaker 1: you don't have your offensive player of the year in
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  Speaker 1: the league. sitting there. He goes out with a, it
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  Speaker 1: looked like an ankle injury. Yeah. That's a big deal
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  Speaker 1: to win that. I thought that was good. You know,
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  Speaker 1: 10 times you always been a top 10 team played
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  Speaker 1: an unranked team and won by a one score game,
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  Speaker 1: you know? So it happens like it happened three times
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  Speaker 1: in 84. I've been three times in 2001. You know,
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  Speaker 1: in 2024, BYU is not top 10, but they're top 15,
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  Speaker 1: top 20, and they survive against Oklahoma State, who stunk
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  Speaker 1: that year. Like, you just have to figure out ways
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  Speaker 1: to win in certain moments. And because BYU has Notre
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  Speaker 1: Dame and Utah still sitting there, I don't know that, like,
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  Speaker 1: style points even matter. Like, just keep winning, and BYU
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  Speaker 1: went up two in the poll. It wasn't like it
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  Speaker 1: was a big deal to the voters.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the style points thing with the new
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  Speaker 2: gigantic conference is, And when you have certain teams on
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  Speaker 2: your schedule, I think it's an overblown conversation to have.
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  Speaker 2: And I know that there were people in, you know,
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  Speaker 2: the BYU fan base, a small segment that wanted Kalani
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  Speaker 2: to be running up scores and piling things on. And
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  Speaker 2: it just, it all comes out in the wash. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's a normal reaction to have to, to not running
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  Speaker 2: up scores and then to winning a close game against
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  Speaker 2: the TCU team that may or may not be great.
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  Speaker 2: May or may not be good. Even I agree with
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  Speaker 2: you on their defense at the very least, by the way, but,
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  Speaker 2: When Notre Dame's coming to town and when you've got
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  Speaker 2: what we think is going to be a top 10,
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  Speaker 2: top 15 matchup against your in-state rival, at the end
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  Speaker 2: of the day, the college football playoff rankings are going
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  Speaker 2: to factor those things in more than this game on
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  Speaker 2: the road in wet weather.
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  Speaker 1: 100%. And trust me, I would love... spots and then
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  Speaker 1: they got smacked and they got, you know, they got
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  Speaker 1: put back where they were like, it's okay to have
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  Speaker 1: the volatility, but there is a respect for BYU that
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  Speaker 1: I don't think they've had because they they've done it
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  Speaker 1: for now. A third straight year is like, no, they're good.
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  Speaker 1: We acknowledge that they won, you know, people don't know
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  Speaker 1: all the details of the LJ got hurt and it
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  Speaker 1: was wet and blah, blah, blah. The point is BYU
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  Speaker 1: won and it's, it's, it's good. Winning feels great. And
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  Speaker 1: in fact, I talked to one player who, who said
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  Speaker 1: Kalani told us, we need to appreciate winning even more.
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  Speaker 1: Like this is hard. Like BYU is getting used to winning,
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  Speaker 1: you know, they, Hey, you we need to celebrate when
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  Speaker 1: we win. Like we worked so hard to get to
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  Speaker 1: this point. Every win matters and it's so difficult. So yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Props to BYU figuring it out. Yes. Was it, was
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  Speaker 1: it bear Bachmeier's worst passing game as Cougar? Yes. Was
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  Speaker 1: it one of his grittiest best rushing games as a Cougar? Yes.
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  Speaker 1: He ran the ball 15 times, Sean. Seven of those
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  Speaker 1: were for a first down or a touchdown. So when
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  Speaker 1: he touches the ball, things happen. And he's 16-2 as
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  Speaker 1: a starter. Dude has not lost to a team not
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  Speaker 1: named Texas Tech quite yet.
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  Speaker 2: That's pretty crazy. So what is the story with L.J.
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  Speaker 1: Martin?
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  Speaker 2: Because obviously you've said it every week, and it manifested
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  Speaker 2: itself again in Dallas-Fort Worth. He is so incredibly important
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  Speaker 2: to this Cougars offense. How injured is he?
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  Speaker 1: Speaker 2, so injured that Klein stock. I said, he's
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  Speaker 1: doubtful for the game Friday. And if I'm BYU, I
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  Speaker 1: don't plan. You know, I feel like BYU could be
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  Speaker 1: at Iowa state without him and Notre Dame's coming next week.
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  Speaker 1: You need to be as healthy as humanly possible. And
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  Speaker 1: you're always a little banged up. Isaiah Glasgow, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: also not on the depth chart, doubtful, not expected against
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  Speaker 1: Iowa state. And then it's TBD moving forward. The seriousness
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  Speaker 1: of that injury has not been made publicly yet. Don't
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  Speaker 1: expect to bulldoze. You're starting nickel and punt returner to
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  Speaker 1: play this Friday. So it is a short week. You
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  Speaker 1: always already out without Andrew Gentry and Joni Ma Raider.
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  Speaker 1: The Mooney is ahead of schedule. I haven't heard whether
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  Speaker 1: he might be available Friday, but there's potential there. If not,
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  Speaker 1: hopefully next week against Notre Dame. So yeah, it'd be
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  Speaker 1: always a little banged up more than normal for teams
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  Speaker 1: at this point. So hopefully they can be as healthy
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  Speaker 1: as possible. Next man up, behind Isaiah Glasgow, I think
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  Speaker 1: BYU has had some good play from Jake Clifton, the
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  Speaker 1: K-State transfer, and then Ciali Assera will be back against
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  Speaker 1: Iowa State, so there's some good news. So there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot going on on the injury front right now.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to ask you about the Assera thing
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  Speaker 2: because this is an Iowa State team that I don't
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  Speaker 2: think they can do a lot of things all that well,
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  Speaker 2: but Aiden Flora, if you don't have good linebacker play
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  Speaker 2: and you don't have good pursuit angles, he can make
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  Speaker 2: you pay for that. What do you make of the matchup?
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  Speaker 2: Especially when BYU is defenses on the field, trying to
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  Speaker 2: stop that.
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  Speaker 1: I would say run game, Speaker 4 08 and Flora
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  Speaker 1: is like the surprise of the league. I think he's
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  Speaker 1: been fantastic. Didn't he? He's one of like the four
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  Speaker 1: guys that feels like that stayed. Yes. Everyone went to
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  Speaker 1: Penn state and it's like, where'd everybody go?
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  Speaker 2: I know it's, I know you're joking, but it's like
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  Speaker 2: almost that number. It's they had, they had like 10
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  Speaker 2: guys stay.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy. And who wouldn't want to go to Penn state?
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  Speaker 1: Like all the tradition, like I get clients talking, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: they gave him a scholarship right away. And he has,
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  Speaker 1: he has, you know, paid that off. Well, Saturday, unbelievable
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  Speaker 1: 212 rushing yards on 22 carries three rushing touchdowns. The
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  Speaker 1: thing that gets me is the two passing touchdowns. So
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  Speaker 1: I watched this game and I go, okay, I know
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  Speaker 1: he's going to throw for two. They throw him a
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  Speaker 1: quick bubble. He's backwards. He throws a forward touchdown. Like
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  Speaker 1: BYU has run that play against Wisconsin in 2018 to
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  Speaker 1: win on the road. When they were number six, that
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  Speaker 1: was a great play. But the one that got me
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  Speaker 1: was kind of the Chris leak Tim Tebow thing. So
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  Speaker 1: they hand off the Flora. toss, right? He's he runs,
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  Speaker 1: you know, here, here it comes power, right? Nope. Just
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  Speaker 1: kind of pulls up, throws it over the top touchdown.
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  Speaker 1: He was a high school quarterback. He's also their proud returner.
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  Speaker 1: He started an FBS at 8.1 yards per carry. It's
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  Speaker 1: four punt returns of 50 plus in his career. Most
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  Speaker 1: among active players. This dude is like Maybe the MVP
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  Speaker 1: to his team in the big 12. He's been awesome.
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  Speaker 1: And so he's fast too. Like you always got to
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  Speaker 1: defend him. Well, I also liked the fact that there's
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  Speaker 1: a couple of Utahns coming in from Iowa state, a
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  Speaker 1: couple of connections. So first off, Uh, Dominic over me,
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  Speaker 1: West Jordan, Jaguar wide receiver, leading receiver. That's fun. Isaac
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  Speaker 1: Terrell also from, uh, from Lehigh. He's the leading sack
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  Speaker 1: man for our state. And then Michael Harper, former BYU safety.
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  Speaker 1: He is probably going to start because of an injury
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  Speaker 1: through surge, uh, the strong safety. And so you got
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  Speaker 1: some connections there. I think it's cool. I've always respected
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  Speaker 1: Iowa state's program too, as a team that is like consistently, uh,
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  Speaker 1: good to very good and like tough and like all,
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  Speaker 1: like all the values are great, like hardworking, nice people.
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  Speaker 1: So I, I think it's going to be a fun
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  Speaker 1: one Friday night. I, what I fear is that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the margin is closer than we think. I think BYU
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  Speaker 1: wins the game with that. If LJ Martin doesn't play,
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  Speaker 1: I think BYU at night is money. They've won 14
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  Speaker 1: in a row at night, 5 p.m. or later total.
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  Speaker 1: And then 31 and five last four years at night
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  Speaker 1: view is just a great team at night. And then
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  Speaker 1: BYU is a double digit favorite. They've won 18 in
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  Speaker 1: a row of those kinds of games. So yeah, all the,
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  Speaker 1: everything points at BYU being in the right place. Now
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  Speaker 1: this could have been a massive trap game, Sean, because
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  Speaker 1: Notre Dame sitting there, they've already announced it on ABC
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  Speaker 1: in prime time. You're probably getting Fowler herb street game day,
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  Speaker 1: the whole thing. But I think BYU last week was like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: we're not so good that we aren't going to be
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  Speaker 1: in dogfights here. Let's make sure we're humble and ready
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  Speaker 1: and hungry and all the stuff that Kalani says. I
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  Speaker 1: think it cannot be a trap game now because of
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  Speaker 1: what happened last week.
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  Speaker 2: I just looked it up because when you mentioned the
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  Speaker 2: Utah connections on the Iowa State roster, I've said this
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  Speaker 2: so many times on my show, but like 20 years ago,
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  Speaker 2: when you and I were in high school, shout out
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  Speaker 2: class of 2002, Kalani, Guys, even the great players in
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  Speaker 2: this state, they didn't go far afield. If you went
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  Speaker 2: somewhere out of state, you went on the West Coast.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, Iowa State didn't recruit guys out of
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  Speaker 2: the state of Utah at all when we were in
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  Speaker 2: high school. So I was like, okay, let me see
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  Speaker 2: if I can find who the first player from the
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  Speaker 2: Utah high school ranks. And I don't know if Google's
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  Speaker 2: AI overview is all that reliable, but according to the
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  Speaker 2: Google search, Dominic over B is the first modern scholarship
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  Speaker 2: roster player from a Utah high school on the Iowa
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  Speaker 2: state Cyclones roster.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Porter Gustin out of
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  Speaker 1: Salem Hills getting recruited by everybody. You know, Urban Meyer
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  Speaker 1: was coming in to look at him for Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: and everything. He came to like a Salem Hills basketball
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  Speaker 1: game in like January or something. It was like, what
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  Speaker 1: the heck? You know, I was tracking the plane at
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  Speaker 1: Provo and whatnot. I would also like to take this
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  Speaker 1: moment regarding high school football to shout out to my guy,
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  Speaker 1: Darius Matthews, the head coach at Copper Hills High School,
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  Speaker 1: who for just the second time in Copper Hills history,
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  Speaker 1: beat Bingham over the weekends. and shirted the first winning
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  Speaker 1: season in Copper Hills football history. We have sucked for
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  Speaker 1: so long, and this year we're good. I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Go Grizzlies.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I could tolerate either of those
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  Speaker 2: shout-outs because Copper Hills tragically upset Jordan High when we
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  Speaker 2: were seniors the same week that we were all involved
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  Speaker 2: in filming an episode of Touched by an Angel, which
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  Speaker 2: was very awkward. And then let me tell you something.
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  Speaker 2: When you're a high school football player, and you're supposed
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  Speaker 2: to beat a team and then you lose to that team.
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  Speaker 2: And then you have to go see that team again
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  Speaker 2: on Saturday night, after you lost on Friday night, because
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  Speaker 2: you're getting paid awkward. You're getting paid $ 75 to be
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  Speaker 2: part of a touch by an angel episode. That is
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  Speaker 2: not worth it. Okay. That sucked so bad.
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  Speaker 1: Speaker 4 05,0 Yeah, that, that was, that was gnarly.
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  Speaker 1: I remember, I think I told the story, but I'll
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  Speaker 1: tell it again. They have all this equipment on the
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  Speaker 1: track for the touch by an angel crew. And I, and,
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  Speaker 1: and I am at this point learning how to shoot
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  Speaker 1: and edit footage. I know I want to get in
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  Speaker 1: the industry and blah, blah, blah. I'm doing a little
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: five minute segment every other day on what they called
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  Speaker 1: channel one back in the day, kind of on our
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: kind of school news, you know, I'm taking a class.
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  Speaker 1: It's so fun. I'm like, this is great. This is great.
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  Speaker 1: My viewfinder is on the right side. So I'm kind
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  Speaker 1: of blind when I'm shooting to the right. I start
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  Speaker 1: walking on the track where all that equipment is in
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  Speaker 1: front of the whole student body. They're going crazy. I
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  Speaker 1: run into the stuff on the track, fall over in
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  Speaker 1: front of everyone and just make something out of myself.
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  Speaker 1: And that was very embarrassing. Oh, but you know what?
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  Speaker 1: Tony Saunders, our star receiver that year. He was awesome.
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  Speaker 2: Not as embarrassing as losing to copper Hills. I'll tell
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  Speaker 2: you that. Jerem Jordan is our guest here on a
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  Speaker 2: little red and blue. So I was state decent at
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  Speaker 2: least TCU question mark. BYU.
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  Speaker 1: Good.
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  Speaker 2: Texas tech. Good. Utah.
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  Speaker 1: Good.
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  Speaker 2: Baylor question, Mark, what are we, how should we be
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  Speaker 2: talking about the Baylor bears who are surprising four in
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  Speaker 2: one team right now in the conference?
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  Speaker 1: Speaker 3 4th, 05, 06, 07, 08, 07, 08, 09, 010.
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  Speaker 1: That was the big surprise of the weekend. I did
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  Speaker 1: not expect them to one win and to kick blood.
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  Speaker 1: DJ lagway was legit. I love, I love the fact
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  Speaker 1: that Baylor like they're four and one in their one
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  Speaker 1: losses to Auburn where on a two point conversion, they
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  Speaker 1: didn't lead the receiver. Like we didn't, if you leave them,
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  Speaker 1: they win their five and only they might be ranked
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  Speaker 1: right now. Their defense has really shut teams down. That's
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  Speaker 1: like the strength of the team cutter. Bully has looked
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  Speaker 1: nice in the first half against A & M, but
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  Speaker 1: then now we know A & M stinks, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they beat Kansas and London. but like that Arizona state does.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, that, that, that was a surprise. There's, there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of parody past the kind of top five there.
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  Speaker 1: Cause it's kind of who's playing for kind of that six, seven,
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  Speaker 1: eight spot. Cause Houston, Oklahoma state and the big three,
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  Speaker 1: as you mentioned, they feel like the top five, like
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  Speaker 1: there's a line there. but maybe not. I mean, Baylor's
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  Speaker 1: coming to Provo in November. That's something to be aware of.
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  Speaker 1: And if Lagway plays well, they've got a chance with
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  Speaker 1: that defense. So that was, that was very interesting over
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  Speaker 1: the weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Speaker 0 7, Baylor's schedule, by the way, not really
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: friendly in the back half, Iowa state, BYU, Texas tech, Houston,
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: all to finish.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Better get some wins now. Cause you're losing at
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: least two of those Well, the final three, I mean, any,
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: even if BYU and Utah were playing that last three,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: it'd be like, there's a loss or two in there
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: for almost anybody.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Well, this, this is also interesting for me because, you know,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: obviously everyone here in state has November 7th circled for
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: obvious reasons, but Utah plays Arizona the next week. That
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: is not a roll your helmet out and get a
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: win type game. And now BYU plays Baylor the next week.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: So like both of these coaching staffs, going to have
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: to make sure that you don't just empty the gas
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: tank in a rivalry game and then not be ready
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: to play next week, because you got real competition, at
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: least as we can tell so far in the game
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: after the game.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Speaker 2, there was a stat last year that they showed.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: I can't remember what it was exactly, but after the
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: BYU Utah game, both BYU and Utah had tended to
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: struggle the last couple of years, both won last year
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: for the first time in a while. Yes, there, there
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: was a physicality and a certain emotion that was depleting
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: those teams. So yeah, I don't know that the league
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: is like, and it's probably deep, but it's very wide
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: as Reese Davis described it last year. Yeah. There's not
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: a lot of gimme's we thought preseason, Hey, Iowa state,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: everybody left. Oh, you're always going to win that one
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: by a million. No, they're better than you think. I
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: still think BYU wins and covers, but there's more resistance
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: there than you thought. And you've got to be aware,
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: BYU's one muffed punt or turnover away from maybe losing
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: the game against TCU. It's great that they figured it
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: out and won, because sometimes it just gets a little messy.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: And there will be tougher schedules for both BYU and
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Utah that kind of show what they're made of at
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: this point.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: Speaker 0 5th, Houston is such a wild card for
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: me in this whole scenario right now, because there's these
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: parallel races. I was talking about this yesterday. These, these,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: these parallel races for on paper, at least the two
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: spots in the big 12 championship game where Utah and
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: BYU play one another. They don't play Texas tech or
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma state, Texas tech and Oklahoma state do play one another.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: So it's kind of like on paper, the winner of
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: the BYU Utah game, in control for the one spot,
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: the winner of the Texas Tech-Oklahoma State game, in control
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: for the other spot. But then Houston has crossover. Houston
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: plays a bunch of these other teams where there's no
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: crossover in the top four outside of that. When we
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: look at this Houston team, and we talked about them
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: in the preseason as being a factor, have your thoughts
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: on them changed? Have they developed? Have they grown? Are
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: you more scared, less scared for Houston and Westbrook? they
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: can be?
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: They are interesting, right? And regarding scheduling, they play Oklahoma
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: state coming up next week. So those two weeks will
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: really decide whether they're going to be a contender or
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: not in the league. They had a weird game Saturday
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: where they were done 17, nothing to UCF. And then
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: they scored 27 on the answer to win. So you
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: like credit them for the comeback, but you're also like,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: why are you down 17, nothing in the game? I
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: don't know. They should be credited with 24 and one,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: the one loss by two at Texas tech on a,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: on a Friday night, like Houston's good. How good is
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: the question? This is the year where I wish we
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: could have semi-finals in the league to get into the
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: title game is, could you imagine like that? Cause there,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: it feels like there are five teams that could win
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: late this year. Last year was like, yep. You know, there,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: there are three good teams, Texas tech, clearly a notch above.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: And then it's BYU and Utah that are right there. If,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: if we somehow had like a conference semi-final, can you
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: imagine that'd be awesome? Like one of the Houston or
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma state or something is the five seed and they're
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: left out and you have You have a couple of
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: fun matches just to get into that game. Obviously it's
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: not going to happen and it would not work. We're
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: going to expand the playoff probably to 24 and then
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: the conference title games are somewhat meaningless at that point.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: But Houston's an enigma still. We need to see what
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: they can do again. Like K-State this week, K-State's played
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: nobody and then they lost to Cincy and it's kind
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: of been weird. They're better than we thought, but they're
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: not that good. So yeah, it feels like a five
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: horse race right now, but you know, who knows? Arizona
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: punked them pretty good. Arizona only has one loss to BYU,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: but they play a really tough schedule. So yeah, the,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: the expansive league makes it difficult. Like the old big 12,
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: where everyone played everybody, you can really figure out who
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: the best team was, but I'm not going to complain
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: too much. BYU wouldn't be in the league without this expansion.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Speaker 2 05,005 Yeah, no, I mean, it's, it's better
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: to have it be expanded. How hot is the seat
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: of Dion Sanders in Boulder right now in your mind?
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: It's a good question because do you have the, my
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: immediate response to this for everybody, like Dabo at Clemson and,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: you know, Lincoln Riley at USC and everybody's like, do
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: you actually want to buy out that much? You know,
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know what his buyout is, but he, he's
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: such a polarizing figure in a lot of ways. Like,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: do you think you can do better? Like you want
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: to break up right now? Like what are we talking about?
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I do think it is warm because they are not
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: headed in a good direction and And you had the
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: one good year, but it's when you brought, you know,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: your son and Travis Hunter over from Jackson state. And
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: obviously winning a Heisman is like one of the coolest,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: even team things that you can do, you know, and
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: she door was, was a good college quarterback. So yeah, I,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: it doesn't look good over there. I wonder what they
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: want to do and if they want to give it
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: another year or not, they don't really recruit and a
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: high school kid. So you're kind of wondering outside of
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Juju Lewis, like you're wondering how, how developed are they?
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Are they going to make that? They lost some notable
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: guys in the portal, like Jordan seat and the left
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: tackle went to LSU. And then a DJ McKinney's at
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Notre Dame. We're going to see him next week at cornerback.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's a good question. Does feel warm. It
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: feels like it's getting warmer.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Jay Hill, Colorado Buffalo's head coach question mark.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Oh man. Tough for those guys. Right. They're going through it.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: It's it's, to jump into a blue blood and just
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: have it just work. Right. Obviously you need good quarterback
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: play a little brown jug. Didn't go the way of
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: the Michigan Wolverine. So yeah, that's interesting. Cause you know,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: the hope is you has great success, great success and
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: you know, keeps Kalani forever. Uh, the reality is there
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: will be teams that come calling, uh, you know, USC,
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: it's been pretty public that USC has some interest in Kalani,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: but plenty ever left, you know, kind of your, your
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: next guy is probably Jay Hill given how close he was. Right.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: And how successful he was in DC. I don't know
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: what that looks like for him, but the hope is
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: that you have quantity forever. And it's not a thing.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: have to address anytime soon, but certainly it'd be naive
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: not to, not to at least be ready and, or
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: think about it. So hopefully plenty is here forever, man. He,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: he joked in his early days on the coaches show
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: that he was the Paul, he wanted to be the
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: Polynesian Lavelle. He is absolutely the Polynesian Lavelle, even after
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: only 11 years, like keep this guy going culturally perfectly
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: aligned with what BYU is and wants to be. So
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: let's keep this going, man.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: They know that, right? I mean, BYU knows that at
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: every level now.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: I would hope so. And I feel so. Yeah. Okay.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I think so too. I think that's, that's the sense
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I get, but obviously you're a lot closer to it
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: than I am. And you know, it's fine to have
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: these like scares and minor soap opera moments, I think
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: with a coach and an athletic director and a department
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: and a university and whatever else. But like, if you,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: if you let that guy walk, yikes in my, is
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: my opinion.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I would hope that he would be here forever.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: I just think he's so aligned with the unique mission
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: of BYU in all its facets. He takes the high road.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: He's such a good dude. There's not a dude that
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: doesn't like Kalani in the industry. Yeah, amen. And BYU's
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: winning at a clip they never have at this level.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: This is a golden era of BYU football. I don't
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: want it to end. BYU just... just had its best modern,
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: you know, and I guess ever, uh, recruiting class ever.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Several of these guys are on missions, you know, so
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: the next couple of years is set up really nicely.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: BYU is in a great spot in terms of like,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: they don't have to replace a ton of dudes every
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: year with portal guys. Uh, they, they can be very
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: specific and calculated and intentional. Um, and so hopefully that,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: that continues, man, it's going great. BYU is as relevant
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: as they've ever been. And they're about to have one
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: of the most relevant moments in program history next week
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: when we think college game day will be here for
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: BYU-Notre Dame, man.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Does the Iowa State game have anything to do with
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: that in your mind? Or are they coming? Because, I mean,
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: BYU's going to be a ranked team no matter what.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Notre Dame's going to be a ranked team no matter what.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: But does the result on Friday night affect how big
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: this game is for the television networks?
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I think it does. I think it'd be why you
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: lost that. They might not come. I think if they,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: if Notre Dame smacks Stanford and BYU beats Iowa state,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: I think, I think there'll be here as Reese Davis
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: said last week that there's a good chance, but there, yeah,
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: there are some other interesting games that they wanted to,
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: but Ohio state, Indiana, you know, beginning kickoff already said
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: they're going to that one. You know, you, you've already
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: done LSU it's Mississippi state, like, you know, Alabama, Tennessee,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: they've already already went to Tennessee, you know, for Texas, Tennessee.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: So it is pretty intriguing, Missouri, Ole Miss, you've already
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: been to Ole Miss. So it, you know, you bring
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: up a good point. Would they come anyway? Like even
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: if they're like, you know, 14th or 12th or something,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: it'd still be a pretty good matchup, but I don't
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: think it's something they have to worry about. And BYU
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: is going to have to exercise some demons by the way,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: not because BYU is 0-4 when game, when It was
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: TCO nine BYU lost it where game day was. And
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: then they've had three road games. Historically it's both for Utah,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: if I recall, and then 2020 coastal Carolina, which is
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: weird in so many ways. And then last year at
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Texas tech in the regular season.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: Who's printing the Catholics versus Mormons t-shirts this year. Do
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: we know where are they going to sell those things?
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: That's a, that's a good question. Who's jumping all over
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: that one. It's like the other one needs to print
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: out the full name of the church, you know, to
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: appease like, Hey, now, now everyone's appeased. Yes.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: Perfect. Jerem, always appreciate your time. Enjoy the game on
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Friday and we'll see you soon.
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: Thanks, Sean. Always good.
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