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#HURDLEMOMENT: Your Dental Health Questions Answered With Dr. Staci Whitman · Hurdle with Emily Abbate

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Speaker 1: But if your gums are bleeding, that is a sign
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Speaker 1: of inflammation, and the inflammation doesn't just stay in your mouth.
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Speaker 1: It's all connected, so inflammation in the mouth can have
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Speaker 1: downstream effects for the rest of the body.
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Speaker 2: Hey everyone, emilya body here coming to you live from
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Speaker 2: the AG studio. You are listening to another installment of
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Speaker 2: in between. We all go through hurdles in life, and
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Speaker 2: my goal through these discussions is to empower you to
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Speaker 2: better navigate yours and move with intentions so that you
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Speaker 2: can stride towards your own big potential and of course
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Speaker 2: have some fun along the way. I am so interested, excited,
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Speaker 2: elated to bring you today's episode about taking better care
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Speaker 2: of your dental health. Now I know this sounds a
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Speaker 2: little I don't even know, but it's been something that
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Speaker 2: I've been thinking about for a while bringing this topic
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Speaker 2: to the feed, and I am so happy to do so.
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Speaker 3: With the help of doctor Stacy Whitman.
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Speaker 2: She's a functional and holistic dentist based in Portland, organ
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Speaker 2: And I'll be real, I didn't know much about what
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Speaker 2: it meant to be a functional holistic dentist until we
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Speaker 2: chatted for today's episode. So of course we get into that,
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Speaker 2: and then we talk about it all. So much interesting
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Speaker 2: things about navigating dental health that I had absolutely no
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Speaker 2: clue about before we spoke. We talked about what doctor
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Speaker 2: Whitman calls our oral microbiome, and the importance of different
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Speaker 2: bacteria some there, getting rid of some other kinds for
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Speaker 2: the betterment of our mouth, our teeth, our gums, our tongue.
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Speaker 3: Oh, my goodness, so many things.
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Speaker 2: Plus we talk about the different strategies, tips, tricks that
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Speaker 2: you should be implementing to take better care of your
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Speaker 2: oral health, from how often you should really be flossing
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Speaker 2: to tongue scraping of course, leaning into different products, maybe
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Speaker 2: not the ones you're using right now, being mindful of
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Speaker 2: the ingredients in the products that you're using in your
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Speaker 2: toothpastes and your flosses, in your mouth rinses, should you
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Speaker 2: even be using.
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Speaker 3: Mouth oral rinses? So much stuff in here.
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Speaker 2: I feel like a topic of dental health like it
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Speaker 2: doesn't sound super sexy, but I I am not even
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Speaker 2: get up front here. This is an episode that I
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Speaker 2: haven't learned this much from an expert in such a
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Speaker 2: long time. A huge thank you to doctor Stacy Whitman
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Speaker 2: for her time today. And again, I know this doesn't
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Speaker 2: seem super you know, buzzy, but this is an episode
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Speaker 2: that you're gonna want to make time for.
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Speaker 3: I know this is coming out of the week.
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Speaker 2: Of Thanksgiving, so I do want to say a happy
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Speaker 2: holiday to you and yours and that I'm so thankful
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Speaker 2: again for all of you in my little corner of
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Speaker 2: the interwebs. Make sure you're following along with Hurdle of
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Speaker 2: our on social media. It's at Hurdle podcast and I
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Speaker 2: am over at Emily a body with that. Let's get
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Speaker 2: to hurdling.
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Speaker 3: Today.
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Speaker 2: I'm sitting down with doctor Stacey Whitman that she is
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Speaker 2: a holistic dentist. Talk to us a little bit about
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Speaker 2: what it means to be a functional holistic dentist.
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Speaker 1: Yes, great question. First of all, thank you for having me, Emily.
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Speaker 1: I'm a big fan. And maybe we'll get into talking
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Speaker 1: about our love for running later too. So that's a
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Speaker 1: side note. It is kind of a new term and
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Speaker 1: a nuanced term. But I'd like to consider myself a
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Speaker 1: functional dentist first and foremost, and what that means is
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Speaker 1: functional industries where we really get to the root causes.
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Speaker 1: We like to get upstream and deal with prevention as
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Speaker 1: opposed to dealing with end stage disease, which is a
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Speaker 1: lot of traditional dentistry. You know, you go into the dentist,
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Speaker 1: the dentists, you have cavities, you have gum disease, and
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Speaker 1: then you're using different medical processes, prescriptions, you know, treatment
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Speaker 1: invasive treatments to address those.
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Speaker 4: But what we want to do.
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Speaker 1: Is get way, way, way upstream to try to prevent
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Speaker 1: the issues from ever beginning, and then also to teach
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Speaker 1: and educate patients how to prevent issues from happening in
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Speaker 1: the future. And a lot of that ties into whole
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Speaker 1: body systemic health also, which is where the holistic part
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Speaker 1: comes from. So you know, the mouth is the gateway
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Speaker 1: into the body, and it tells us so much about
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Speaker 1: what's going on with our internal health. Just visually looking
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Speaker 1: in someone's mouth tells you a lot about their overall health,
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Speaker 1: and so dentistry can be very focused just on teeth.
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Speaker 1: A holistic or functional dentist is really trying to piece
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Speaker 1: everything together and see how everything is correlated and influences
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Speaker 1: one another in the body.
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Speaker 3: I have a confession.
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Speaker 2: I just need to get this off my chest, like
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Speaker 2: right now, go for it. I cannot think about the
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Speaker 2: last time I went to the dentist.
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Speaker 1: Oh you're gonna call when we get off this pod.
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Speaker 4: It's not for you. A lot of people fell off
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Speaker 4: the radar because of COVID.
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Speaker 3: That's exactly it. That's exactly it.
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Speaker 2: And you know what I am as many I'm sure
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Speaker 2: people that are listening to this. I am a contractor
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Speaker 2: and I have Oscar Health insurance, which I like for
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Speaker 2: the most part, but it is very expensive for a
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Speaker 2: thirty three year old woman living in New York City
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Speaker 2: to have health insurance.
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Speaker 3: I pay nearly six hundred dollars and so.
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Speaker 2: I usually just pay out of pocket to go to
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Speaker 2: the dentist once a year and get my teeth planed
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Speaker 2: and get everything checked out. But to your point, exactly
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Speaker 2: with COVID, I really don't think I've been You're gonna go.
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Speaker 1: It's going to happen soon. That's just a little a
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Speaker 1: nice little reminder. But we've seen that a lot I mean,
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Speaker 1: we have patients now coming back in, which is why
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Speaker 1: so many dental offices are so busy. We're getting inundated
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Speaker 1: with calls from people who want to try to catch
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Speaker 1: up from lost appointments, and we're seeing so many more
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Speaker 1: cavities and gum disease, and you know, adults have a
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Speaker 1: lot of fractured teeth from stress and grinding. So it
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Speaker 1: is I do suggest to everyone out there listening, if
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Speaker 1: you haven't been into the dentist, no fear, no stress,
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Speaker 1: but pick up the phone and call and get back
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Speaker 1: in just to make sure everything's okay. Because again, like
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Speaker 1: with functional dentistry, we want to catch things early because
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Speaker 1: if we catch things early, we often can stabilize, heal
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Speaker 1: reverse issues instead of instead of dealing with them in
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Speaker 1: more aggressive manners like you know, filling and crowns and
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Speaker 1: root canals and deep cleanings and things of that nature.
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Speaker 2: I just had a call with someone on a completely
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Speaker 2: different topic, but I promise I'm going to bring this
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Speaker 2: around that we were talking about social media, and we
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Speaker 2: were talking about the areas of which I could better
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Speaker 2: improve what's going on with hurdles social media, and these
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Speaker 2: are many things that I knew, and she said to me,
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Speaker 2: the thing is, sometimes when you know something's going wrong,
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Speaker 2: you're almost a little bit like, oh, I'm just going
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Speaker 2: to keep putting it off, just a little bit longer,
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Speaker 2: a little bit longer, a little bit longer. And I
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Speaker 2: feel as though this actually is directly imp applicable to
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Speaker 2: my situation with my dentist appointment.
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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, that's.
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Speaker 1: Human nature, though we all do that. That's procrastinating. I
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Speaker 1: think a lot of patients too, feel insecure, like they're
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Speaker 1: going to be judged by the dental team, and I
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Speaker 1: just really want to express it's the complete opposite. I mean,
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Speaker 1: we've committed ourselves to this career because we want to
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Speaker 1: help people. There's no judgment whatsoever. And if you find
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Speaker 1: you have a provider that you are getting that vibe from,
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Speaker 1: there's plenty of other providers out there. You should find
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Speaker 1: a provider that supports you, that lifts you up, and
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Speaker 1: then is part of your team. You know, it's your
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Speaker 1: healthcare team. So that's really important.
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Speaker 3: I love that piece of advice. I love that piece
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Speaker 3: of advice.
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Speaker 2: So let's before we get into talking about some best
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Speaker 2: practices for dental health. Something that I've never really dived
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Speaker 2: into on the show before, which is why I'm so
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Speaker 2: excited to have you here with us.
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Speaker 3: Stacey, talk to us a little bit about what.
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Speaker 2: Inspired you to get into this field and specifically this
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Speaker 2: niche of this field.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, sure it's convoluted, but I'll do my best to
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Speaker 1: keep you on track here. So I grew up in
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Speaker 1: New England and I was always an art kid, if
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Speaker 1: you will, Like I like to work with my hands.
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Speaker 1: I was very creative, and when I got into college,
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Speaker 1: I didn't really know what to do with that. I
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Speaker 1: was an art major, but I didn't want to be
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Speaker 1: struggling with what that meant to be an artist, if
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Speaker 1: you will. So when I was ten years old, I
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Speaker 1: suffered a really severe bicycle accident where I fell off
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Speaker 1: my bike and I knocked out my permanent front teeth
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Speaker 1: and I have scars here that you can maybe see
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Speaker 1: from that, and it was a big deal. It really
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Speaker 1: impacted my life and the trajectory of my life. And
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Speaker 1: so I was in college and thinking back to this experience,
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Speaker 1: and I was in and out of dental offices so much,
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Speaker 1: and I really came to love the profession. I had
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Speaker 1: really caring nurturing providers and so I just kind of
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Speaker 1: pieced it together. You know, I enjoyed science, I like
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Speaker 1: to work with my hands. Dentistries pretty artistic. But I
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Speaker 1: also wanted a really secure job, you know, I wanted
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Speaker 1: to get out of my current environment. I wanted to
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Speaker 1: have other opportunities. And so I thought, well, jeez, I'll
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Speaker 1: apply to dental school because I know dentistry pretty well
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Speaker 1: because of my experience, because of this accident.
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Speaker 4: And so I did go to a dental school.
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Speaker 1: It was a very traditional program, like they all are,
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Speaker 1: and that is critical. We all need that traditional foundation
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Speaker 1: because you know, it's important to have that and sometimes
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Speaker 1: we need to use that as part of our wheelhouse.
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Speaker 1: And then I graduated, and I worked as a general
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Speaker 1: dentist and adult dentist for a while, but I just
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Speaker 1: didn't feel job fulfillment. I didn't feel like I was
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Speaker 1: really making a difference. And again, it has to go
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Speaker 1: back to this root cause issues. You know, what are
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Speaker 1: the root causes? How do I help people prevent all
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Speaker 1: of this disease, all these cavities and paradonal disease and
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Speaker 1: dental phobia. You know, how do I catch this ahead
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Speaker 1: of all all of the consequences and I thought, well, geez,
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Speaker 1: I need to start working with kids. You know, if
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Speaker 1: I can start working with kids, then I can influence
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Speaker 1: their trajectory of their oral health. I can influence how
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Speaker 1: they feel about the dentists, the dentist doesn't have to
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Speaker 1: be scary. And then teach them too about the oral
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Speaker 1: systemic connection, which is really big deal, and we can
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Speaker 1: get to more on that later.
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Speaker 4: So I went back.
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Speaker 1: I went to my pediatric residency for two years to
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Speaker 1: get my pediatric certificate, graduated, worked in a very traditional practice,
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Speaker 1: and then again was faced with many of the same issues.
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Speaker 1: I just didn't feel like I was truly making a difference,
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Speaker 1: you know, I was just kind of drill and fill
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Speaker 1: filling these teeth. But I wasn't really having the opportunity
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Speaker 1: to educate these children and their families and really help
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Speaker 1: prevent disease. And then I, you know, I lost my mother.
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Speaker 1: I lost my mother very suddenly to cancer. And I
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Speaker 1: grew up with a family with a lot of addiction
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Speaker 1: and substance abuse and mental health issues, and so that
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Speaker 1: really propelled me personally to live a cleaner, more holistic life.
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Speaker 1: I just wanted to prevent disease. I kind of got
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Speaker 1: it got into a lot of nutrition science and longevity
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Speaker 1: research and aging research, and so I'm working along and thinking, gosh,
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Speaker 1: I'm living this one way, but I'm not practicing this
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Speaker 1: way with my patients and dentistry. Traditional dentistry can be
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Speaker 1: a little aggressive, in my opinion, and it's not always
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Speaker 1: thinking about the whole child and the whole body and
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Speaker 1: using the most non toxic, non invasive methods. So I
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Speaker 1: just realized I need to change this. I need to
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Speaker 1: practice what's really true to me and my nature. And
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Speaker 1: so I opened my own practice where I opened a
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Speaker 1: holistic functional pediatric dental practice, and I had a lot
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Speaker 1: of support from like minded colleagues that really helped encourage
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Speaker 1: me to do this. And it's been a wild success.
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Speaker 1: It's been hugely successful. I feel so much job fulfillment,
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Speaker 1: personal fulfillment, sense of purpose, and it's just been lovely.
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Speaker 1: And then so now I'm trying to reach more people
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Speaker 1: utilizing social media. I have a book that's coming out,
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Speaker 1: you know, I just really want to spread this education
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Speaker 1: to these families knowing that there are other options out
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Speaker 1: there for their children, and teaching them really what causes
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Speaker 1: oral disease and how it can impact their child's whole body.
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Speaker 1: Is really important to me.
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Speaker 2: First of all, I love your passion, and I love
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Speaker 2: what you said that I feel is really interesting and
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Speaker 2: a great takeaway here. You were practicing and you liked dentistry,
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Speaker 2: but you wanted to do more with it. You realized
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Speaker 2: that you could take it in a different direction when
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Speaker 2: something didn't feel one hundred percent right to you.
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Speaker 3: And I think that oftentimes in our lives, when.
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Speaker 2: Something feels off or we're just like not feeling like
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Speaker 2: whatever situation we're in, we tend to like do a
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Speaker 2: dramatic overhaul instead of being like, what are the small
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Speaker 2: things that are within my control that I could pivot
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Speaker 2: and like work with what I already have right now
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Speaker 2: to do the best you can with what you already have.
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Speaker 2: You had worked so hard to get to that point,
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Speaker 2: and it was just like doing that internal audit and
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Speaker 2: asking yourself, like, how can I take this to the
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Speaker 2: next level for myself?
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Speaker 1: Yes, totally nailed it because there were points where I
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Speaker 1: was pretty low.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I really didn't like it.
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Speaker 1: Wasn't that I didn't like dentistry, but I didn't like
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Speaker 1: where I was with it. So and I had a
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Speaker 1: lot of fear. I'll be honest, it takes. It took
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Speaker 1: a lot of support from colleagues to take this plunge,
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Speaker 1: because you know, the word holistic can get a lot
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Speaker 1: of side eye.
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Speaker 4: It's overused a lot.
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Speaker 1: I think, and it can be confusing, and I you know,
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Speaker 1: a lot of my colleagues may not truly understand what
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Speaker 1: I mean by that, and by me branching out and
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Speaker 1: trying to be a more root cause functional dentist, it's
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Speaker 1: in no disrespect to my colleagues. I just personally think
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Speaker 1: there are ways to approach dentistry differently, especially with these kids.
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Speaker 4: And you know, we do.
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Speaker 1: A lot in my office where we focus on the
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Speaker 1: oral microbiome. So we all know about the gut microbiome
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Speaker 1: and that it's kind of been blowing up over the
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Speaker 1: past decade, but now what's coming front and center is
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Speaker 1: the importance of our oral microbiome and how that influences
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Speaker 1: our gut health and our sleep and our behavior, and
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Speaker 1: our mental health and just entire systemic health. And then
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Speaker 1: we focus a lot of nutrition and introducing foods and
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Speaker 1: trying to encourage our children to eat the rainbow and
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Speaker 1: avoid ultra processed foods. And really just support the child's
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Speaker 1: emotional health. And we also do a lot where we
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Speaker 1: heal cavities. We're reversing cavities, which you know, we're taught
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Speaker 1: in dental school like that can't happen, and I know
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Speaker 1: it can because I've been doing it for years in
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Speaker 1: my office and so a lot of parents seek out
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Speaker 1: my office specifically for that because we do try to
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Speaker 1: allow the body to heal, which innately, our bodies want
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Speaker 1: to heal, they want to thrive, and if we can
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Speaker 1: support them with proper nutrition, proper hygiene, in various other
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Speaker 1: entities that can support the child, we can actually reverse disease,
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Speaker 1: which is really cool.
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Speaker 2: Love this, love all of these interesting takeaways again, stuff
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Speaker 2: that you don't really hear super often, especially in this field.
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Speaker 3: So I do want to bring it back to what
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Speaker 3: we're really.
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Speaker 2: Here to talk about today, which is us talking about
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Speaker 2: some best practices for us all to be taking care
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Speaker 2: of and being more mindful of our dental health. Now,
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Speaker 2: you had mentioned that before going into this specific niche
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Speaker 2: of working with children, that you have worked extensively with adults,
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Speaker 2: So I just want to make sure that we reiterate
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Speaker 2: that background again.
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Speaker 3: So everyone knows that.
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Speaker 2: We are truly working with an expert who really can
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Speaker 2: give us some really concrete, actionable tips to better take
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Speaker 2: care of what's going on in our mouths.
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Speaker 3: So the first question really is where do we even start?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, great question.
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Speaker 1: So and the thing is too, what I recommended children
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Speaker 1: applies to adults too. It really can affect to whole family.
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Speaker 1: But some easy take homes are, you know, flossing. I
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Speaker 1: cannot emphasize flossing enough. It is incredibly important to have
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Speaker 1: healthy gums and healthy bone.
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Speaker 4: We do know gum.
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Speaker 1: Disease can translate into many systemic diseases. Those include heart disease, diabetes,
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Speaker 1: rheumatoid arthritis, Alzheimer's and dementia, pregnancy difficulties. I mean, it's
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Speaker 1: really a lot. COVID outcomes was being correlated to poor
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Speaker 1: oral health too, and I think that's just the tip
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Speaker 1: of the iceberg. I think we're going to learn a
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Speaker 1: lot more about that. So keeping your gums really healthy,
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Speaker 1: which flossing is incredibly important. Of course you need to
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Speaker 1: brush too, but if your gums are bleeding, that is
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Speaker 1: a sign of inflammation. And the inflammation doesn't just stay
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Speaker 1: in your mouth. It's all connected you. So inflammation in
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Speaker 1: the mouth can have downstream effects to the rest of
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Speaker 1: the body. So that would be one thing I'd say,
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Speaker 1: really make flossing and non negotiable in your home, whether
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Speaker 1: for your children or for yourself.
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Speaker 2: And how regularly would you say that someone should be flossing.
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Speaker 4: I would say nightly, ideal, perfect world. Once a day.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to do twice a day,
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Speaker 1: you're an overachiever, that's fantastic, But once a day is
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Speaker 1: good by me. Other really simple things. This is something
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Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know about, but the importance
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Speaker 1: of nasal breathing. There was an excellent book that came
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Speaker 1: out in twenty twenty called Breath by James s.
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Speaker 2: Ne Ester.
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Speaker 1: It was like book of the Year. But nasal breathing
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Speaker 1: is incredibly important for your oral health. So if you
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Speaker 1: mouth breathe, your mouth dries out, your saliva dries out,
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Speaker 1: the pH of your mouth lowers, and that creates this
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Speaker 1: perfect breeding ground for pathogenic or bad bacteria. So people
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Speaker 1: who mouth breathe tend to have a lot more cavities
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Speaker 1: and dental disease too. But nasal breathing also is so
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Speaker 1: important for systemic health. For so many reasons as like
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Speaker 1: an entire other podcast. But if you are a mouth breather,
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Speaker 1: if you snore, if you grind, if you're tossing and turning,
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Speaker 1: you know, sleep is incredibly important as well. I suggest
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Speaker 1: that you try to work with a functional airway focused
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Speaker 1: dentist and try to get to the root cause of
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Speaker 1: why your mouth breathing, and that includes for children other
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Speaker 1: things That seems simple, but hydration is incredibly important. You know,
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Speaker 1: if we're dehydrated, that affects the saliva, and our saliva
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Speaker 1: has a lot of beneficial proteins and enzymes in them
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Speaker 1: that prevent cavities. It's very protective. So if you're dehydrated,
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Speaker 1: you may be more at risk for cavities too. And
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Speaker 1: then we get into nutrition a lot, so we are
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Speaker 1: seeing and optic in cavities. Cavities are the number one
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Speaker 1: chronic disease in children in the world and not far
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Speaker 1: behind in adults too, And we do know it has
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Speaker 1: a lot to do potentially with nutritional deficiencies. That includes
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Speaker 1: trace mineral deficiencies and fat solid vitamins. So this includes
20:02
Speaker 1: as soon as you're pregnant, really making sure that you're
20:05
Speaker 1: supporting yourself because in utero, that is when your child's
20:09
Speaker 1: baby teeth are forming. It's usually around week seventeen to
20:12
Speaker 1: twenty one. So we really encourage like nutrient dense foods,
20:17
Speaker 1: you know, whole foods, eating the rainbow, lots of trace minerals,
20:21
Speaker 1: Vitamin D, calcium, vitamin A, vitamin K two is really.
20:26
Speaker 4: Important as well.
20:28
Speaker 1: And if you're interested more in this, there's an excellent
20:30
Speaker 1: book called The Dental Diet by doctor Stephen Lynn. He's
20:34
Speaker 1: an leading functional dentists globally and he really dives deep
20:38
Speaker 1: into how nutrition impacts the formation of our teeth and
20:42
Speaker 1: the prevention too. But this is why the mantra at
20:45
Speaker 1: my office is eat the Rainbow. We really encourage kids
20:48
Speaker 1: to try to eat vegetables and fruits and getting your
20:51
Speaker 1: kids back in the kitchen, getting them cooking, preparing food,
20:55
Speaker 1: going to the farmer's market, trying to stay away from
20:58
Speaker 1: those ultra process highlight palatable foods like you won't believe this,
21:04
Speaker 1: and parents, they don't like hearing this, but like crackers, pretzels, chips,
21:08
Speaker 1: granola bars, all of those things can cause cavities. And
21:12
Speaker 1: I really think crackers are one of the number one
21:15
Speaker 1: reasons for cavities.
21:16
Speaker 2: And children now so interesting, so interesting, and before what
21:19
Speaker 2: you were saying about, if your gums are bleeding, it's
21:22
Speaker 2: a sign of inflammation, and that inflammation obviously can go
21:25
Speaker 2: elsewhere outside of the mouth. For someone who does experience
21:28
Speaker 2: bleeding gums, like I mean, I definitely feel like it
21:31
Speaker 2: happens to me, like at least once a week when
21:33
Speaker 2: I'm brushing my teeth or flossing or something like that.
21:36
Speaker 2: Is there like a point where you should be like
21:38
Speaker 2: maybe more worried than.
21:40
Speaker 3: Like just kind of like, eh, I'll just brush my
21:43
Speaker 3: teeth again tomorrow.
21:44
Speaker 1: Well, I think making sure you're working with a dental
21:46
Speaker 1: provider is important because they can gauge that and keep
21:49
Speaker 1: things monitored for you. But if your gums are bleeding,
21:54
Speaker 1: I would try to figure out, you know, why have
21:57
Speaker 1: you not been flossing regularly?
21:59
Speaker 4: I like this analogy.
22:01
Speaker 1: So, if anyone plays guitar or has started, when you
22:03
Speaker 1: first pick up a guitar and start playing, your fingers
22:06
Speaker 1: are raw.
22:07
Speaker 4: They hurt.
22:08
Speaker 1: The more you do it, you'll get callouses. It'll be
22:11
Speaker 1: easier to play. It's the same with your gums. And
22:14
Speaker 1: so if you put your guitar down for a few
22:16
Speaker 1: months and you pick it back up again, your fingers
22:18
Speaker 1: will be raw again. It's the same with flossing. But
22:22
Speaker 1: you can do saltwater rinses that can really help. That
22:25
Speaker 1: has an antiseptic inhaling quality to it. And then also
22:29
Speaker 1: baking soda rinses they help neutralize or even alkalize the mouth.
22:34
Speaker 1: So most disease, whether it's oral or systemic, comes from acid,
22:38
Speaker 1: and that includes in our mouth. So again those pathogenic
22:41
Speaker 1: bacteria they love acid. And so if we can try
22:46
Speaker 1: to neutralize or alkalis our mouths, like with baking soda,
22:50
Speaker 1: with gentle rinsing, with certain brands of products, and I
22:54
Speaker 1: can get into that a little bit more. But when
22:56
Speaker 1: I really like is hydroxy appetite toothpaste, And if people
23:01
Speaker 1: are unfamiliar with that, it's a fluoride alternative and hydroxy appetite.
23:06
Speaker 1: Think of it like the calcium phosphate supplement. Hydroxy Appetite
23:10
Speaker 1: is what our teeth are made of already, It's what's
23:13
Speaker 1: in our enamel, and so we're replacing missing hydroxy appetite
23:17
Speaker 1: with hydroxy appetite. So it's a much more holistic means
23:24
Speaker 1: of addressing demineralization or potential cavity prevention. There's a ton
23:29
Speaker 1: of research supporting it, and some research is now even
23:32
Speaker 1: showing it to outperform fluoride toothpaste too. So I'm a
23:37
Speaker 1: big proponent of hydroxy appetite toothpaste. There's a couple on
23:41
Speaker 1: the market now that I really like, Boca and Rise well,
23:45
Speaker 1: and maybe we can put it in the show notes
23:46
Speaker 1: for people. But especially if you're trying to heal or
23:49
Speaker 1: reverse cavities, it's a really important thing to be using.
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Speaker 2: Said, baking soda another ingredient, and a lot of toothpaste
27:00
Speaker 2: that we'll see on the shelves and whatnot. This makes
27:03
Speaker 2: me think about something else that a lot of people
27:06
Speaker 2: think about when it comes to their teeth, and obviously
27:08
Speaker 2: that's keeping them white or making them whiter. So for
27:13
Speaker 2: someone that may be using some of these conventional products,
27:16
Speaker 2: whether they be something like a white strip or these
27:18
Speaker 2: whitening toothpastes, what should we be keeping in mind on
27:22
Speaker 2: that front.
27:23
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great question. So so many products, unfortunately,
27:28
Speaker 1: are not ideal for our oral microbiomes, especially some of
27:31
Speaker 1: the big brand toothpaste and rinses. You need to be
27:35
Speaker 1: very careful. So personally, I think less is more. We
27:39
Speaker 1: really want to preserve this delicate microbiome. We've all been
27:42
Speaker 1: conditioned to disinfect the mouth, and we're just overdoing it
27:46
Speaker 1: because we're killing our healthy bacteria two. And what that
27:50
Speaker 1: does is it actually makes.
27:51
Speaker 4: Us more prone to disease.
27:53
Speaker 1: So being very careful of things like sodium, laurel, sulfate, emulsifiers, factants,
28:01
Speaker 1: certainly food you know, any food dyes that are in there,
28:04
Speaker 1: heavy alcohols or stringents, and even essential oils because they
28:09
Speaker 1: are not specific. So they're yes, they're targeting and killing
28:13
Speaker 1: our bad bacteria, but they're also damaging our healthy bacteria too,
28:17
Speaker 1: So just buy or beware. And I have a lot
28:19
Speaker 1: more information on you know, my social pages too because
28:23
Speaker 1: this we could dive deep into this. So you have
28:25
Speaker 1: to be careful with some bleaching agents because they do
28:27
Speaker 1: have a lot of additives in them that can affect
28:30
Speaker 1: the microbiome. It can disrupt our oral mucosa caused sensitivity.
28:36
Speaker 1: So I like, honestly baking soda that can really help.
28:40
Speaker 1: Or I like oil pulling too with coconut oil, And
28:43
Speaker 1: for those that are unfamiliar with that, that's when you
28:45
Speaker 1: take like a little tablespoon of ideally raw organic coconut
28:50
Speaker 1: oil and you put it in your mouth and you
28:52
Speaker 1: swish with it for a few minutes, and you'll see
28:56
Speaker 1: a whitening effect with that. And it's one of those
28:59
Speaker 1: things don'tkno it till you try it. But that really
29:01
Speaker 1: can help support oral health too, And it's an aravatic
29:04
Speaker 1: practice that's been used, you know, forever and ever. But
29:07
Speaker 1: I'm a big proponent of oil pulling a few times
29:09
Speaker 1: a week. What else, O Luminu is a brand I
29:12
Speaker 1: really like of white strips. They're a little less caustic
29:16
Speaker 1: and toxic. You can put that in the show notes too.
29:20
Speaker 1: But also hydroxy appetite toothpaste can help whiten also because
29:25
Speaker 1: what it's doing is it's filling in microporosities or irregularities
29:30
Speaker 1: in your enamel surface. And so if you can create
29:33
Speaker 1: a smoother enamel surface, when light reflects off from that,
29:37
Speaker 1: it's going to look brighter and whiter and more shiny.
29:40
Speaker 1: So those are some more I guess holistic if you
29:45
Speaker 1: will waiyte to whiten your teeth, if you really want
29:48
Speaker 1: like that Hollywood bright white look, you'll probably need to
29:52
Speaker 1: go see an esthetic dentist and kind of get some
29:55
Speaker 1: more in office bleaching done. But those are some great
29:58
Speaker 1: take homes for home.
30:00
Speaker 2: I mentally just added organic coconut oil to my Amazon
30:04
Speaker 2: shopping cart just how you Also, in the listing of
30:09
Speaker 2: these great alternatives and products, you said something that stuck
30:14
Speaker 2: with me, which is it doesn't know how to differentiate
30:17
Speaker 2: between the good bacteria and the bad bacteria, which my
30:20
Speaker 2: mind then went to charcoal because I know that in
30:24
Speaker 2: some of my health reporting that is one of those
30:26
Speaker 2: things that can be one of those ingredients of you
30:29
Speaker 2: will that can be a little bit controversial because it
30:31
Speaker 2: can have the same effect.
30:33
Speaker 3: I know that we see charcoal a lot lately in these.
30:37
Speaker 2: Different buzzy whitening tooth products as well, So any input
30:41
Speaker 2: on that.
30:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have mixed feelings about charcoal. I don't love
30:47
Speaker 1: it long term, but I think it's one of those
30:50
Speaker 1: things if you want to do it for maintenance like
30:53
Speaker 1: here and there, I think it's fine. But just making
30:55
Speaker 1: sure you're finding a product that you know is maybe
30:58
Speaker 1: third party test and that the charcoals from a quality
31:02
Speaker 1: source to because a lot of these things like bentonite
31:04
Speaker 1: clay and charcoal, they can be contaminated with heavy metals
31:10
Speaker 1: and just different things to do. So just find a
31:12
Speaker 1: brand that you really like that's reputable. But I don't
31:15
Speaker 1: like charcoal being used every day because it can be
31:18
Speaker 1: a little abrasive to it actually can be damaging your
31:21
Speaker 1: enamel a little bit, So I would use that pretty periodically.
31:24
Speaker 2: Would you say that there are any quote unquote healthy
31:27
Speaker 2: practices that we have been conventionally sold via the dentists
31:33
Speaker 2: that maybe aren't actually that good for us after all?
31:38
Speaker 1: I would say the top one that pops into my
31:40
Speaker 1: mind is oral rinses. I am not a big fan
31:45
Speaker 1: of oral rinses because most are stripping.
31:48
Speaker 4: The oral microbiome.
31:50
Speaker 1: You know, what you do an oral rins usually because
31:53
Speaker 1: you're trying to kill ninety nine point nine percent of germs.
31:57
Speaker 1: I mean, we just need to get out of that
31:59
Speaker 1: mentality that like germ theory mentality. We really instead, I think,
32:04
Speaker 1: need to have a mind shift, set shift, and really
32:08
Speaker 1: be supporting the healthy microbes rather than trying to kill
32:12
Speaker 1: the negative microbes. If you focus on supporting the healthy
32:16
Speaker 1: microbes in your body, whether it's your mouth, your gut,
32:19
Speaker 1: wherever it is, you're going to crowd out the bad guys,
32:23
Speaker 1: you know. So it's just it's almost a more positive approach,
32:26
Speaker 1: like just let's support those beneficial bacteria in our body.
32:31
Speaker 3: Got it? Got it?
32:32
Speaker 2: And the next area to focus on here would be
32:36
Speaker 2: perhaps the things we talked about the benefit of nutrition,
32:39
Speaker 2: maybe other things that we are consciously or unconsciously putting
32:43
Speaker 2: in our mouth throughout the day, whether that could be
32:45
Speaker 2: chewing gum or seltzers or mints. I think that there
32:49
Speaker 2: are some pretty frequently ingested items that might not be
32:54
Speaker 2: doing our teeth the best service.
32:56
Speaker 3: Any highlights on that front.
32:58
Speaker 1: Great segue. I love it so Yeah. Something that many
33:02
Speaker 1: people don't realize is every time you put anything in
33:06
Speaker 1: your mouth besides water, you are altering the pH of
33:09
Speaker 1: your mouth to be one of more acidic in nature.
33:13
Speaker 1: So our mouth starts our digestive process. Enzymes come in
33:16
Speaker 1: to break things down. So if you're sipping, snacking, chewing
33:22
Speaker 1: here and there all day, we call.
33:24
Speaker 4: It like grazing.
33:26
Speaker 1: Your mouth is staying in this constant state of acidity,
33:29
Speaker 1: and so you are really setting yourself up for potential issues.
33:34
Speaker 1: We really like to see all humans kids are adults
33:38
Speaker 1: eating more on a schedule, you know. So like you
33:41
Speaker 1: have breakfast at eight, maybe you have a snack at
33:44
Speaker 1: ten am where you sit, you're mindfully eating it in
33:48
Speaker 1: one sitting, You chew it, maybe you drink.
33:50
Speaker 4: Some water and then that's it. You move on.
33:53
Speaker 1: Lunch is at noon. We're such a society on the go.
33:57
Speaker 1: We're grabbing, we're nibbling, we're snacking, we're sipping like something
34:00
Speaker 1: always in our mouths, and that is affecting our or micromyown.
34:05
Speaker 1: So really trying to eat more in a schedule. Be
34:07
Speaker 1: very mindful about your drinks too. I think a lot
34:11
Speaker 1: of people don't realize. As you mentioned, seltzer water, soda waters, kombucha.
34:17
Speaker 1: While some of these are healthier alternatives and they and
34:20
Speaker 1: some have health benefits, like kombucha, they will alter the
34:24
Speaker 1: pH of your mouth and they are acidic, and you know,
34:27
Speaker 1: kombucha has a lot of sugar in it too, So
34:30
Speaker 1: just be careful with things like that. I'm not saying
34:33
Speaker 1: don't ever drink them, but just be aware of it.
34:35
Speaker 1: You know, I'm a big soda water fan. I try
34:38
Speaker 1: to make sure I'm drinking it with a meal because
34:41
Speaker 1: if as I'm chewing my food, I'm increasing my saliva,
34:45
Speaker 1: it helps rinse off some of those acids from my
34:48
Speaker 1: teeth and then I'll drink water after. Or if you
34:51
Speaker 1: want to be really an overachiever, you could rinse with
34:53
Speaker 1: some baking soda after because that will help neutralize.
34:56
Speaker 2: And is it the carbonation in the soda water that
35:00
Speaker 2: something for us to be concerned of. I know I
35:02
Speaker 2: have a girlfriend who she herself is obsessed with soda water,
35:05
Speaker 2: and funnily enough, funnily enough, comically enough, her son, who
35:11
Speaker 2: is two years old now, also loves soda water.
35:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I like it as an alternative
35:17
Speaker 1: to soda obviously, but yes, the carbonation does it is
35:21
Speaker 1: what lowers the pH got it got. It affects the
35:25
Speaker 1: microbiome too, so it's a little damaging. And it can
35:28
Speaker 1: damage your enamel a little bit too, So you know,
35:31
Speaker 1: again trying not to sip on that all day long.
35:34
Speaker 1: A perfect world, I wish people were just drinking water,
35:38
Speaker 1: but you know that's not realistic all the time for everyone.
35:41
Speaker 1: I will say something I like people to add to
35:44
Speaker 1: their water when they are drinking it is our trace minerals.
35:48
Speaker 1: So we are associating a lot of dental disease, including
35:53
Speaker 1: undermineralized teeth, which we're seeing an increase in children being
35:57
Speaker 1: born with their teeth already susceptible. They're like modeled, they're fragile,
36:02
Speaker 1: they just didn't develop ideally. We're associating that a lot
36:05
Speaker 1: with trace mineral deficiency. We know that we are. Our
36:10
Speaker 1: top soil is very depleted of minerals. Our foods are
36:14
Speaker 1: depleted of minerals, particularly magnesium. But I like people adding
36:17
Speaker 1: a little trace minerals into their water too, so obviously,
36:20
Speaker 1: work with your doctor. I also really like people knowing
36:24
Speaker 1: their vitamin D levels. It's incredibly important, and low vitamin
36:28
Speaker 1: D is correlated with increased cavity risk and increased oral
36:33
Speaker 1: disease as well as in all kinds of downstream health
36:37
Speaker 1: issues systemically too.
36:38
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36:41
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36:55
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36:59
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37:02
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37:08
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37:11
Speaker 1: K two is critical. It's really important for dental development.
37:16
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37:21
Speaker 1: calcium where to go and it helps facilitate vitamin D
37:25
Speaker 1: as well. So we associate a lot of dental issues
37:29
Speaker 1: with K two deficiency. Also, Western Price was a dentist
37:35
Speaker 1: in the early nineteen hundreds and like the thirties and
37:37
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37:40
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37:45
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37:48
Speaker 4: Diets, and he noticed how beautiful their teeth were. Many
37:52
Speaker 4: people don't.
37:53
Speaker 1: Know this, but cavities are very new to humans. About
37:56
Speaker 1: ten twelve thousand years ago, we did not have cabin
38:00
Speaker 1: If you look at at skulls.
38:02
Speaker 4: There were zero cavities.
38:04
Speaker 1: It was not until the agricultural and the industrialized revolutions
38:08
Speaker 1: where we started milling grains, making flowers, packaging foods, increasing
38:13
Speaker 1: sugars in our foods, that we started having this rampant decay.
38:17
Speaker 1: If you really think about it, like cavities, I don't
38:20
Speaker 1: want to be fear mongering, but they're the hardest our
38:22
Speaker 1: teeth or our hardest substance in our body. And so
38:25
Speaker 1: a cavity is when that substance is dissolving. So that
38:29
Speaker 1: really doesn't mean there's some sort of imbalance happening in
38:32
Speaker 1: your body. And I think so often we've been taught,
38:36
Speaker 1: you know, cavities are just cavities. This is just we
38:39
Speaker 1: just get them and we'll just you know, deal with
38:41
Speaker 1: it at the dentists, but really trying to think, wow,
38:44
Speaker 1: this might be something. There might be other things going
38:46
Speaker 1: on in my body if I'm really prone to cavities
38:48
Speaker 1: and working with ideally like a functional dentists or holistic
38:52
Speaker 1: dentists or just an open minded traditional dentists that can
38:55
Speaker 1: help you get to root causes and maybe assess for
38:58
Speaker 1: nutritional deficiencies, like Western Price was pointing out, and he
39:03
Speaker 1: was the one that really said K two. WHOA, like,
39:07
Speaker 1: we are K two deficient in our society. You know,
39:10
Speaker 1: our gut it does create some K two for us,
39:14
Speaker 1: but so many of us have gut issues now that
39:16
Speaker 1: we're maybe not synthesizing enough K two. And so we
39:21
Speaker 1: get K two from fermented foods and from hard cheeses
39:26
Speaker 1: and various other animal products, but they're not very common
39:30
Speaker 1: or plentiful in our modern diet. So the D three
39:32
Speaker 1: K two by athletic greens. I'm a fan of good diet.
39:37
Speaker 3: That's the advice.
39:37
Speaker 4: Here.
39:38
Speaker 2: I mentioned the buzzword of coffee, another buzzword for many,
39:41
Speaker 2: or phrase perhaps red wine. Let's talk about what drinking
39:46
Speaker 2: these quote unquote staining drinks does to you our mouth.
39:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know, you will maybe be increased risk
39:57
Speaker 1: for staining. And we're all a little bit more societ.
40:00
Speaker 1: Some are really susceptible disdaining and some aren't. And that
40:03
Speaker 1: does have to do with the quality of your enamel.
40:06
Speaker 1: You know, coffee's pretty acidic. Wine can be too, but
40:10
Speaker 1: you do have to live life. That's my most important message,
40:12
Speaker 1: is like it's all about finding balance. And you know,
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Speaker 1: if you believe in the eighty twenty rule, I'm a
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Speaker 1: pretty big proponent of that. You know, if you're really
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Speaker 1: if you want to be really cautious, I would rinse
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Speaker 1: with water after you consume beverages like that, just plain
40:28
Speaker 1: water or again baking soda rinses.
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Speaker 4: It can really help a lot.
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Speaker 2: I remember I went to an event once and the
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Speaker 2: dentist was like saying that he drinks his stuff through straw.
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Speaker 3: Does that do anything?
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Speaker 1: It can help, Yeah, especially like a lot of people
40:40
Speaker 1: drink warm lemon water in the morning. I do too,
40:43
Speaker 1: and lemon can be very damaging to your enamel, especially
40:47
Speaker 1: if you're sipping on it all day long, so I
40:52
Speaker 1: prefer you know, again, this can be a little much
40:55
Speaker 1: for people, but if you can drink it.
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Speaker 4: Out of a straw.
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Speaker 1: That's cool at the very least, just try to drink
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Speaker 1: it in one sitting kind of quickly and then rents
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Speaker 1: with water. But I wouldn't extend it over an hour
41:08
Speaker 1: or so.
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Speaker 2: And I love what you said about the eighty twenty
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Speaker 2: rule because, as with any habit, really it's like the
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Speaker 2: things that you're going to stick with, the things that
41:16
Speaker 2: you're going to upkeep, are things that feel doable for you. Right, So,
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Speaker 2: rather than setting all of these brand new dental goals
41:23
Speaker 2: immediately after listening to this podcast, do an honest audit
41:26
Speaker 2: with yourself about like, what's within my power. That's something
41:29
Speaker 2: I can do tomorrow that will make me one percent
41:32
Speaker 2: better And maybe then there's another habit a few days
41:35
Speaker 2: or weeks later that you can integrate to get one
41:37
Speaker 2: percent better again.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, totally.
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Speaker 1: I mean the easy ones, the low hanging through, drink
41:42
Speaker 1: more water, work on your flossing, And I would say
41:47
Speaker 1: if you are mouth breathing, I would really try to
41:50
Speaker 1: get that addressed because I there are long term systemic
41:54
Speaker 1: issues associated with that, particularly cardiovascular issues and mental health
41:59
Speaker 1: issues too, like Alzheimer's and things.
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Speaker 2: So I feel like we've seen on social media since
42:04
Speaker 2: that book came out, like a lot of people going
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Speaker 2: to bed and like taping their mouths lip taper.
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Speaker 3: Oh are you a paper every night?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Wow?
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Speaker 4: Oh it is life changing. It's a danger.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I have my aura ring and if I
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Speaker 1: don't do it, my sleep is a disaster.
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Speaker 3: And I can I ask your personal question please?
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Speaker 4: Of course?
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Speaker 3: Are you single?
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Speaker 4: No? My husband?
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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I love you.
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Speaker 4: My husband liptapes too. Just listen.
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Speaker 1: Sleep is the most important thing for your body.
42:38
Speaker 4: It really is.
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Speaker 1: It's foundational. I don't care how many hit workouts you do.
42:43
Speaker 1: I don't care how well you eat.
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Speaker 4: I don't care whatever you're doing.
42:48
Speaker 1: If you are not sleeping while if you're not getting
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Speaker 1: in deep restorative sleep, and that a lot has to
42:53
Speaker 1: do with mouth breathing, you will not be healthy. I mean,
42:56
Speaker 1: you really will have a shortened life expectancy. It's a
42:58
Speaker 1: kind of a big deal.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, so funny.
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Speaker 2: I remember, I remember I interviewed Ritual not that long
43:05
Speaker 2: ago for GQ, and he sleeps in a tent outside
43:07
Speaker 2: of his home so him and his wife don't share
43:09
Speaker 2: the same bed, And I.
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Speaker 3: Asked him a personal question.
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Speaker 2: I was like, do you feel like this infects your intimacy,
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Speaker 2: which is just kind of like the same gut reaction
43:18
Speaker 2: that I felt when I was like, do you have
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Speaker 2: a partner that sleeps next to you while your mouth
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Speaker 2: is taped when you go to bed?
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Speaker 4: Yeah? I mean you pick and choose the knight to
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Speaker 4: do it right?
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Speaker 3: So oh man, another podcast for another time.
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Speaker 4: When you're at that level of comfort with one another,
43:35
Speaker 4: you know.
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Speaker 2: For you, you know what I strive for a personal
43:39
Speaker 2: relationship where I feel as though I can a just
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Speaker 2: sleep next to someone regularly and be do it while
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Speaker 2: taping my mouth.
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Speaker 4: He like tapes down too. I finally gotten to do it.
43:49
Speaker 2: So okay, So I mean you addressed again the low
43:53
Speaker 2: hanging fruit. I would say one that you probably want
43:55
Speaker 2: to add to that. Make sure that you get an
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Speaker 2: appointment with a dentist on your calendar. Make sure that
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Speaker 2: it is in your immediate future if you haven't done
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Speaker 2: it specifically for sure over the last eighteen twenty months.
44:09
Speaker 2: As I raise my hand, I am certainly guilty of.
44:13
Speaker 2: Is there anything else that we haven't addressed here that's
44:15
Speaker 2: really important for us to touch before I let you go.
44:18
Speaker 3: When it comes to best practices for our gental health.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would just say another one I didn't mention
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Speaker 1: it was tongue scraping. That's another aravatic practice. It's one
44:27
Speaker 1: of those things. Don't knock it till you try it.
44:30
Speaker 1: But I'm a big proponent of tongue scraping for oral
44:33
Speaker 1: microbiome support and balance. And not only will you just
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Speaker 1: clean your tongue and help lower your bacterial load in
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Speaker 1: your mouth, but you'll actually taste better. Food will taste
44:43
Speaker 1: better because you're removing like trace amounts of food and things,
44:47
Speaker 1: which sounds going to gross, But anyway, I'm a big proponent.
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Speaker 4: Check it out.
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Speaker 1: I think you'll be pleasantly surprised what you feel like
44:54
Speaker 1: after you do it.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to have you send me a bunch of
44:57
Speaker 2: links to all the things that you mentioned here so
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Speaker 2: that I can make sure that I include all of
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Speaker 2: them in the show notes. So if you have a
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Speaker 2: go to tongue scraper, the hurdlers are ready.
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Speaker 3: To buy it.
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Speaker 4: All right, I'm in, I got it.
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Speaker 3: I love it. I am so grateful for your time today, Stacy.
45:14
Speaker 2: Before I let you go, do let me know how
45:16
Speaker 2: do the hurdlers follow along with you? You mentioned you
45:18
Speaker 2: have a book coming out. Give us the details on
45:20
Speaker 2: all this stuff so we can keep up with you
45:22
Speaker 2: going forward.
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Speaker 4: Yeah for sure.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So I'm mostly on Instagram. My handles doctor Underscore
45:29
Speaker 1: Stacey and that's Docto R Underscore Staci and I have
45:34
Speaker 1: all kinds of additional information there. I have a lot
45:38
Speaker 1: of new guides coming out of courses coming out.
45:42
Speaker 4: My book.
45:42
Speaker 1: I'm still working with my publisher, so it's a long process,
45:46
Speaker 1: but I'm hoping that comes out next year. I have
45:48
Speaker 1: a cookbook I'm working on. I do have a website,
45:51
Speaker 1: Doctor Stacy dot com. If you're in the Pacific Northwest,
45:55
Speaker 1: you can come see me at my office. It's called
45:57
Speaker 1: No Poe Kids Dentistry. That's n PO. It stands for
46:01
Speaker 1: North Portland where we do take a whole body approach
46:04
Speaker 1: to your child's health.
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Speaker 4: But also part of whole.
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Speaker 1: Body health to me is environmental health and sustainability. And
46:12
Speaker 1: I have launched it's in pre sales. It's an investor
46:15
Speaker 1: around but something called happy Floss and Happy Floss is
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Speaker 1: the first completely compostable sustainable floss pic.
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Speaker 4: It's made of paper.
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Speaker 1: And so if you out there, hurdlers know any investors,
46:30
Speaker 1: Angel investors, vcs, anyone that wants to help me get
46:33
Speaker 1: this off the ground, I'd really appreciate it. But you
46:36
Speaker 1: can check more about happy Floss at happyfloss dot com
46:39
Speaker 1: and it's it's happy with an I H A P
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Speaker 1: p ifloss dot com.
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Speaker 3: You never know who's listening. We have a very well
46:45
Speaker 3: connected corrector.
46:47
Speaker 4: No, you never know. It just takes that one person.
46:52
Speaker 2: I love it well again, thank you so much. I'm
46:54
Speaker 2: over at Hurdle Podcasts and at Emily a Body. I'm
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Speaker 2: going to go buy some floss right now. Another heard,
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Speaker 2: all conquered. Catch you guys next time.