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S21, #12: The Engagement, The Break-Up and the Rumors · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with her radio. Hey, everybody, I am back. I am
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  Speaker 1: excited to be back. Ready to be back. I've missed
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  Speaker 1: you all. I've missed Ashley a lot, but on a reunion,
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  Speaker 1: which is this moment. She's late to the podcast, so
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  Speaker 1: I'm waiting for her, UH in my car. But we
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  Speaker 1: have a really special guest and so I can't get
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  Speaker 1: in the studio yet, but I have to. I had
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  Speaker 1: to call in because we have Eric Bigger Uh in
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  Speaker 1: studio with us right now. Eric, welcome to the Almost
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  Speaker 1: Famous Podcast. Yes, yes, yes, I'm happy to be here.
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  Speaker 1: How are you feeling. I'm feeling good. There we go,
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  Speaker 1: There we go. I love it. We not feeling as
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  Speaker 1: good as you are after night last night. UH, tell
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  Speaker 1: us about how you're doing. Man, I'm phenomenal. Man, I've
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  Speaker 1: been doing interviews all day, but I feel great. The
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  Speaker 1: closure last night was phenomenal and I'm happy. Yeah, man,
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  Speaker 1: I want to tell you right. I watched last night,
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  Speaker 1: and I always respect somebody who can leave UH an
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  Speaker 1: experience like this or a situation like this with their
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  Speaker 1: health health high, complimenting and reassuring UH, someone or something
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  Speaker 1: that may have hurt them, and I love the way
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  Speaker 1: you treated Rachel last night. It shows your character and
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  Speaker 1: who you are as a person. So so thank you
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  Speaker 1: from all the fans out there. Man, I appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. Um, So we gotta get in through it. Eric,
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  Speaker 1: I want to ask you some big questions. I was
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  Speaker 1: a fan of yours off season. I think you carried
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  Speaker 1: yourself well, like I said, But but here's the big question.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna put you in the hot seat
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  Speaker 1: for a second. Pick the right man. Ah Man, that's
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  Speaker 1: a great question, Ben opening it up. Um. Honestly, from
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  Speaker 1: watching the show last night for the first time, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think she picked the right man in that moment.
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  Speaker 1: But prior, yeah, prior to seeing the show, I always
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  Speaker 1: thought Brian was the guy for her once I left.
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  Speaker 1: So but and Brian, you know, great relationship, he's my guy.
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  Speaker 1: I love him, He's cool. But I felt bad for him,
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  Speaker 1: you know, It's it seemed like he was a rebound.
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  Speaker 1: You know. I could be wrong, but that's what they
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  Speaker 1: look like in my eyes. And maybe the feelings they
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  Speaker 1: have for each other is different from what I see.
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  Speaker 1: But oh man, it was it was tough. I was like, Wow,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'll be honest. I'll be honest with you.
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  Speaker 1: I kind of felt the same way, and then I'll
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  Speaker 1: go into it here in just a second on the
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  Speaker 1: podcast on my feelings for the situation. But You're not
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  Speaker 1: alone in that. I actually feel like a lot of
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation kind of felt the same way. From the
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  Speaker 1: reactions and the emails that we got on Almost Famous podcast,
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  Speaker 1: I think people were a little bit confused and a
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  Speaker 1: little bit at the end of it felt kind of
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  Speaker 1: like Rachel was saying, there was a lot of unanswered questions,
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  Speaker 1: especially when it came to Peter. Yes, absolutely, that was emotional.
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  Speaker 1: So let's focus on you for a second, because honestly, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you had an incredible uh a season, um one that
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  Speaker 1: I and I think I want to ask you about
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  Speaker 1: this before you getting any of the questions. You call
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  Speaker 1: a miracle season. What does that mean? So you know
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  Speaker 1: A fr March thirteen, when I first came on live audience,
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  Speaker 1: when I met Rachel, I told Rachel, I said, it's
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  Speaker 1: a miracle season was meant to be will be. In
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  Speaker 1: that moment, I didn't know exactly what I was saying,
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  Speaker 1: but once my journey began, UM, I got my miracle.
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  Speaker 1: The miracle was falling love. But in between me fall
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  Speaker 1: in love, you know, I was emotional. I was, I was,
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  Speaker 1: I was all over the place. I was stressed out.
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  Speaker 1: It was hard, it was uncomfortable, but it was worth it.
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  Speaker 1: So in between that and I always correlated to you know, uh,
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  Speaker 1: female having a baby. You know, when you go through
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  Speaker 1: nine months of labor is very uncomfortable, your hormones up
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  Speaker 1: and down, it's just all over the place. But when
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  Speaker 1: the baby comes out, that's the miracle. So I think
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  Speaker 1: anything you get in life which is a miracle, it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't come easy. But if you're willing to work through that,
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  Speaker 1: in between that process, you can get your miracle. And
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  Speaker 1: I had to go through it. I mean I got
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  Speaker 1: banged up, almost just located my shoulder. I fell the
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  Speaker 1: golf cart. I mean Rachel got into it. I mean
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  Speaker 1: the guys in the house, I got into it with them.
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  Speaker 1: So my whirlwind was was crazy. But the day I
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  Speaker 1: got my miracle, I fell in love and it felt
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  Speaker 1: great and it changed my life. And when a boy
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  Speaker 1: and became a man, so out to everybody on that start,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like you, out of anybody that I watched,
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  Speaker 1: really took this experience to heart and you made it
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  Speaker 1: a reality for you, right, you did, Like you just said,
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  Speaker 1: your your whole season was a roller coaster. You fought, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you argued, you got hurt, you bounced back, you fell
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  Speaker 1: in love. So you're ending this experience and love? Are
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  Speaker 1: you heartbroken? Like? How are you doing today? Man? I'm great.
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  Speaker 1: My heart is full. I think probably to going into
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  Speaker 1: the show, my heart was broken, meaning that I didn't
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  Speaker 1: have love in my heart at all. If I can remember,
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't complete as a person. I think that's the
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  Speaker 1: one thing I was lacking. On the back end of
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  Speaker 1: the show, allowed Rachel to give me love and I
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  Speaker 1: received it now and I'm full. Now my life can
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  Speaker 1: really begin and I can do the things I love
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  Speaker 1: and want to do. So I'm complete. She completed me,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and I got what I was. I served
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  Speaker 1: my purpose in that moment on the show. It didn't
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  Speaker 1: I didn't end up with the girl, but I love,
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  Speaker 1: which I was missing, So it was great. Did you
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  Speaker 1: think last night she came across a little bit harsh
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  Speaker 1: to Peter, Absolutely, very harsh to Peter last night. Very
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  Speaker 1: I was shocked. I was like, whoa she took it
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  Speaker 1: to herd. She took it very personal, and I think
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  Speaker 1: it was no one wanted to compromise, and what happened,
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  Speaker 1: This would happen just because I'm very analytical. Rachel put
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  Speaker 1: herself in a buying from saying I want a proposal,
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  Speaker 1: So she held herself a cannibal in a place where
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  Speaker 1: it was I think it was pride. Her pride wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: let her not do what she wanted to do, and
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  Speaker 1: that was she want to propose and Peter didn't want that.
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  Speaker 1: So if it wasn't proposal then and she's like, you're out,
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  Speaker 1: which I get, but I don't know. I mean sometimes
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  Speaker 1: you know, but I get it with it's hard, it's
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  Speaker 1: really hard. Um, she made her decision and you know,
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  Speaker 1: and she's off the racist, but I just think if
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  Speaker 1: she never would have said I want to propose on
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  Speaker 1: and she made that the priority, she would have been
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  Speaker 1: okay then And Ben can say how he feels. I
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  Speaker 1: felt she wanted to ring more than she wanted the
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  Speaker 1: right guy right. She would have taken that ring from
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  Speaker 1: a dead body if it said Neil Lane right. And
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  Speaker 1: and that's how I felt on the show when I
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  Speaker 1: wasn't spaining. I told Rachel, I said, what does marriage
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  Speaker 1: have to do with commitment? If I'm committed to your
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  Speaker 1: marriage is just the icing on the cake. I said,
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  Speaker 1: where a girlfriend? Fiancee? Wife? I'm fully committed to you.
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  Speaker 1: That's a relationship. Forget the marriage. What is marriage? That's
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  Speaker 1: just a word that you give the connotation of, oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, I'm married. It's like, but I believe love
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  Speaker 1: in marriages. Two different things, you know, but everyone's different.
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  Speaker 1: That's my perspective. But you know, I Eric, let me
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  Speaker 1: ask you then, because you know better than any of us.
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  Speaker 1: So there was some hostility from Rachel towards Peter last night.
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  Speaker 1: Is there some story we haven't seen? Where is that
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  Speaker 1: coming from? And is it because she was in love
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  Speaker 1: with Peter? I mean, what, what do you believe? What
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  Speaker 1: was happening? Then? Well, all I know is is what
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  Speaker 1: what I saw last night. So what I think happened
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  Speaker 1: was she fell in love, he fell in love. He
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to commit the way she wanted to commit.
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  Speaker 1: So what happened was it was a control war. I
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  Speaker 1: want to be in control. Peters like, no, you're not
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  Speaker 1: going to be in control. I want to be in controlled.
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  Speaker 1: So nobody wanted to put their pride side and accept that. Okay, cool,
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  Speaker 1: I'll let you have it less sacrifice for this moment
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  Speaker 1: and then on the back end, let's move forward. So
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  Speaker 1: I think it was a control issue. Rachel was in
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  Speaker 1: control of the whole you know, season, and Peter didn't.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I want to move forward in that way. Man,
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  Speaker 1: that's ah, that can happen. I can see that, right,
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  Speaker 1: because you do is the bastlorrect you. You are in
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  Speaker 1: a sense in charge, right. You are the one in
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  Speaker 1: the know and you are the one eliminating people throughout
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  Speaker 1: the season, so you can get yourself lost and this
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  Speaker 1: feeling that you are in charge. Eric, I gotta ask you,
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  Speaker 1: are you ready to be in charge? Would you be
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  Speaker 1: ready to say to be the bad plor you know, yes,
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  Speaker 1: I I want to be. I want to be. I
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  Speaker 1: think that was my challenge on the show. Usually when
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  Speaker 1: I'm dating, I'm always in control. I'm always charging on
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  Speaker 1: the planner. I like to set things up. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: have that power, so that was challenging and that was stressful.
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  Speaker 1: I have to wait and sit and you know, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: if the opportunity presented itself and it made sense, and
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  Speaker 1: it felt right in the moment. Absolutely, I'm open to
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  Speaker 1: it because, like I said the Richel last night, and
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  Speaker 1: when you open great things happen. So if it comes,
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  Speaker 1: if you're ready to fall in love again, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: and you're setting you're saying I'm ready, Well, I believe
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  Speaker 1: in time. I believe in time, and so if it's
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  Speaker 1: time for me to fall in love, the opportunity will
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  Speaker 1: present itself and I'm gonna take full advantage. Just even
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  Speaker 1: talking to you right now, uh, and and listening to
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  Speaker 1: you last night. We've never met in person, but you know,
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  Speaker 1: I've watched the season. I've I've seen the way you
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  Speaker 1: candle yourself. You have a very positive energy to you,
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  Speaker 1: and you are analytical. You do think things through. But
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  Speaker 1: but when you do that, you often have a positive
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  Speaker 1: spin on it, which which is admirable and fun to
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  Speaker 1: listen to. Where does that positive energy come from? It's
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  Speaker 1: just part of who I am, you know, growing up
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  Speaker 1: seeing a lot of backlash and negativity, you know, growing
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  Speaker 1: up in Baltimore City, I always found the way to
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  Speaker 1: find positive in all things, find a good in the
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  Speaker 1: negative in anything, because at the end of the light,
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, what do we all want?
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  Speaker 1: We want love, we want acceptance, we want happiness. You
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  Speaker 1: want to feel good, you want to feel safe. So
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  Speaker 1: I try to find a good in the bay and
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  Speaker 1: vice versa, you know, because everything has a purpose. Store
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  Speaker 1: that's awesome, that that's great here because I mean even
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  Speaker 1: seeing your hometown and seeing the place that you were
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  Speaker 1: raised in the place that you come from, it's just
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  Speaker 1: beautiful to get a better picture of who you are.
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  Speaker 1: It is and I think your positivitivity and the way you,
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  Speaker 1: like I said last night, you carried yourself. I was impressed,
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  Speaker 1: So thank you for that. And and you know, before
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  Speaker 1: we kind of move on, I have a two final
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  Speaker 1: questions here for you. I'm here Ashley ai Hi. I
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  Speaker 1: have a question for Eric. So Eric and I had
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  Speaker 1: pretty similar experience as we both never had a real
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  Speaker 1: long term relationship. And I think, and I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to speak for you, but that this show kind of
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  Speaker 1: was a sped up lesson on how to have a
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  Speaker 1: relationship and it really made us grow and ready for that. Yeah. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: I think for me, probably before I didn't understand love.
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  Speaker 1: I could give it, but I couldn't receive it. So
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  Speaker 1: I was all I'm all the way in to give him,
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  Speaker 1: but when it came to receiving, I was running. So
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  Speaker 1: now that I understand it and I'm not afraid of
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  Speaker 1: it him, I can embrace it and love I agreed,
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  Speaker 1: Like I think, to a certain degree, I was afraid
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  Speaker 1: of it. And then this show really helped me express
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  Speaker 1: my emotions in a way that I didn't feel comfortable
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  Speaker 1: with before, and like talking it out and telling people
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  Speaker 1: how I felt about them. That never seemed to be
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  Speaker 1: something that I felt comfortable doing. And now, well they
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  Speaker 1: started me and I can't stop. So I was always
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  Speaker 1: telling people how I feel about them. It happen, you know,
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  Speaker 1: that's what we love about you. Actually, um before before
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  Speaker 1: we let you go here, do you think Rachel and
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  Speaker 1: Brian will make it? It's a question, hesitance pause. Sometimes
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  Speaker 1: you have to think about, you know, because when different
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  Speaker 1: people asking the same question, you can feel the vibration
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  Speaker 1: that is coming from So I got a different answer
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  Speaker 1: than I had before. I feel like it will only
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  Speaker 1: work if they're willing to sacrifice, commit and love each
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  Speaker 1: other unconditionally, and if not, I don't know. So I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna work. Okay, So I think that
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  Speaker 1: he truly does love her, love her and is ready
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  Speaker 1: to honestly worship her the way a woman should be worships. However,
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  Speaker 1: how much do you think that him watching this season
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  Speaker 1: back is going to affect the state of their relationship.
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  Speaker 1: Ben can speak about this. I can't speak about it.
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  Speaker 1: I would love to herself. Well me knowing Brian personally,
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  Speaker 1: he's a crazy mental astrology, so he thinks a lot,
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  Speaker 1: right So I know Brian subconscious is always thinking about
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  Speaker 1: right now. I don't know where he's at in the
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  Speaker 1: United States, but thinking about last night, Like if I
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  Speaker 1: was him in his position, I would feel like damn wow,
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  Speaker 1: Like am I like in my second place prize? So
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  Speaker 1: I just pray that you know it's not that. But
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  Speaker 1: from what I saw, I was like, whoa because And
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  Speaker 1: I'll give you guys some spoilers. When we were in
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  Speaker 1: Copenhagen demo, Brian and I had a conversation and he said, Man,
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  Speaker 1: the thing about your journey, Eric is that you and
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  Speaker 1: Rachel had a tension. So it's up and down. But
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  Speaker 1: with Rachel, myself has been consistent. So sometimes something too
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  Speaker 1: good might not last because there's no resistance where you
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  Speaker 1: need we need challenges in life to change. So I
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  Speaker 1: felt like Rachel would happened at the end. She didn't
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  Speaker 1: have a challenge with him, so Peter was a challenge.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but you can't have so you come here.
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  Speaker 1: I want you. I know Brian wants me, So I'll
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  Speaker 1: just put him over there and then when Peter doesn't work,
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  Speaker 1: then I can come back. That's what thing happened. This
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  Speaker 1: is something that I wanted to talk about, I think
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  Speaker 1: because it's it's bigger than just Rachel in her situation.
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  Speaker 1: It's really a generational thing. I think girls these days
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  Speaker 1: really truly like the chase as much as guys do.
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  Speaker 1: I know, we're taught to um be the prey, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean, let him chase you, But for
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  Speaker 1: some reason our generation doesn't want to do that. We
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  Speaker 1: like the challenge too. And maybe it's because, like the
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  Speaker 1: whole feminist movement, maybe because we've been taught that we
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  Speaker 1: also need to work for And maybe she loved that
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  Speaker 1: challenge about Peter and she didn't want the easy way
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  Speaker 1: with but she wanted the ring more. But that she
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  Speaker 1: even the way the proposal went down seemed weird to me,
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  Speaker 1: with the weird sort of excite, the fake excitement. It
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  Speaker 1: felt weird to me. It was the least feeling I've
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  Speaker 1: ever felt during a Bachelor Finally, Bachelor, Bachelor, finally, Normally,
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  Speaker 1: no matter how I feel about the couple leading up
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  Speaker 1: to that moment, I find it to be very moving.
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  Speaker 1: Last night, I wasn't moved at all because my brain
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  Speaker 1: was still with Peter. And I feel like I'm speaking
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  Speaker 1: for the entire audience when I say that, right, So
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  Speaker 1: it's very atturning, like very you know, she's very analytical,
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  Speaker 1: she's logical, she's practical. So I really think she made
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  Speaker 1: a decision because she feels like she had to opposee
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  Speaker 1: where she felt it was more from the man and
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  Speaker 1: not from the heart, because in the from the heart,
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  Speaker 1: I really think she was more with p But in
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  Speaker 1: the mind, Brian makes sense and she did have love
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  Speaker 1: for him. You put it perfectly. Thank you for taking
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  Speaker 1: the words out of my mouth. And but I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: did you guys see the turning point in the show
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  Speaker 1: last night? Did you catch the turning point? Well? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so here's what she said during the Access Hollywood interview.
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  Speaker 1: She says, she claims, and I don't want to sound
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  Speaker 1: sassy or anything. But she claims that she knew since
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  Speaker 1: Geneva that Brian was the one and that she had
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  Speaker 1: crossed out Peter in her mind back then. But she
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  Speaker 1: says that because of the way the story was told
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  Speaker 1: and the way that we all saw it last night,
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  Speaker 1: we think otherwise. Is she just trying to protect Brian
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  Speaker 1: right now? I mean, I get it, I would if
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  Speaker 1: that was my spouse. But I think because in Geneva,
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  Speaker 1: I felt the same way when he got to watch
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  Speaker 1: him like, oh, he's the one. I was mad, like
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  Speaker 1: what you're going to do that? Now? If it was
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  Speaker 1: Matt or Adam, I wouldn't care because they didn't have
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  Speaker 1: that much momentum. Absolutely, so I was like, that's a
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  Speaker 1: symbol that this is the guy you want to be with.
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  Speaker 1: And Peter was just still on the fence, like I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. He was mad at her decision for taking
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  Speaker 1: off him Dean and Brian on a one on one
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  Speaker 1: and the other two guys that can get one. I
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  Speaker 1: had to go in to the three one. And then
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  Speaker 1: I guess things change once we got the Spain, you know,
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  Speaker 1: so you think things change. Of course, because she went
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  Speaker 1: home went home. That was the real Turm. She got
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  Speaker 1: some feedback from her family Peter Mason, this is too fast,
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  Speaker 1: too quick, slow, and Brian, let's do a fast quick
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  Speaker 1: Well well, what I mean is that Peter Sandy is
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: too quick to get engaged, and her family respected that right,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: So she had to go in her mind and think
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: about that, like, hold up, let's look at this a
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: little different. Now. That's why I think really got her.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Did you meet her dad? Oh? Yeah, that is awesome.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: So Mr Lindsay clearly doesn't want to be on camera,
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: I think because he's a judge, and it's like, do
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: you think he thinks it's a little whack that she
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: did this. I don't really know if what did the
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: whole thing or thing. I just think he just wasn't
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: for it at all. I mean, he just didn't seem
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: like it made sense. It wasn't real. You know, He's like, how,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: who are you? What's your name? Tell me about yourself?
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: Did you have a separate sit down with him? So
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: he wasn't at the kitchen table with you guys. Okay,
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: it's great though. We had a great conversation. Is he
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: tell us about his personality? He's strong, he's strict, he's
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: to the point. And he's very open, you know, you know,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: he's he's cool. We had a mom and dad where
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: my best conversations. Okay, it's now all right, Ben, you
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: have any more questions? Yeah, Well, you know, I'm sitting here,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: I'm listening to all this going on, and I'm thinking
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: and putting myself in Rachel's shoes and and Eric, you know,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: you you are in a place where you could be
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: the next bachelor. So I'm gonna say, from one bachelor
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: to the next, maybe Rachel did know, uh in Geneva
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: that that Brian was the one. You know, I I
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: knew fairly early on who I thought was the one.
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: But but the fitchy ation and the environment you're in
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: doesn't allow yourself to cut off feelings for other people.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: Those feelings have to exist in the world that you're
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: living in, and you want them to because you get
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: the opportunity, for the first time in your life to
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: get to know so many people at one time and
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: kind of sort through your feelings. So maybe she didn't
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: know early on, but she stuck with the process, and
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: maybe that process let her led her to fall more
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: deeply for Peter over time. Always knowing in the back
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: of her mind though I still think Brian's the guy
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: for me. Um. We gotta get we got, we gotta
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: put ourselves in her shoes and know that, Yeah, you
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: can have really strong feelings for somebody, um, and you know,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: like it or not. She told multiple people she loved them.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: I know somebody did the same thing. We're going to
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: talk about this later because I feel like you may
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: be able to relate to Rachel more than any other
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: past bachelors at Yeah, I mean I I think so,
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: And so we got to just allow her. However, she
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: went through this process, she did it to the best
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: of her abilities, and so the worst thing you can
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: do is close yourself off um to other people along
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: the way. So to close this up, Eric, my advice
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: to you is, if you get yourself in the same situation,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: to be open to the feelings that are existing at
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: the time, always knowing in the back of your mind
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: who you are, keeping that into consideration. And maybe Rachel
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: knew who she was in Geneva and who Brian was
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: to her, and at the end of the day when
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: she got proposed, he said, yeah, this is still the
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: guy from me. Uh, And I've done my best to
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: kind of sort through this, but at the end of
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: the day, that's the guy for me. Um And And finally,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: when it comes to their conversations, uh, you know, off
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: camera over the last few months, Hopefully she's communicated very
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: clear to clearly to him what it was like leading
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: up to that moment. I know I had to um
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: And and it helped, and it also hurt. It never
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: made it easier, but at least Uh, Lauren I were
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: on the same page on what happened during the experience.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Hopefully she did this same to Brian. I hope he
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: wasn't um blindsided last night by how really truly true
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: feelings she had for Peter, because it's obvious all of us.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: I've been on this show. I know how how the
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: editing works. She had feelings for Peter, she can't tell
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: if she didn't, right right. Another interesting tippit that I
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: just got from Access Hollywood was that she claims that
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: she didn't love Peter. Um. I just think she's trying
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: to protect Brian. But we're gonna leave it at that
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: for right now. Eric. Let's talk about your hotline before
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: you leave us. Talk about It's Miracles season. It's on
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: your hat. What does this mean? Miracles? Miracles do not
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: come easy. So before you came been asked with the
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: miracle season means so sorry, but any day. So honestly,
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: this is a miracle for me being here, sitting here
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: talking to you guys. I know you're in Ryan's secret studio.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: How cool is that? It's like, how did I get here?
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know how I get here? Until Rachel and Spain,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: It's like, this is the miracle. I'm sitting in Spain
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: telling you I love you? How's that even possible? I
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: come from from what I've been through. We had challenges
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: throughout the show. So basically, what a miracle is is
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: something great in your life. It could be relationship, can
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: be intensive, can be in tensible. But to get that
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: and come easy, it's it's a struggle as a challenge.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: But if you're willing to endure that challenge and struggle,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: it's worth it because you would get your miracle. That's
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Mircle season and Women over Everything. Don't forget that. I
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: gotta tell you, I gotta give your plug here. So
• 21:13
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• 21:17
  Speaker 1: backslash Team past Eric Yep ye, you can get it
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: the miracle season. Appreciate a buddy. We hope to see
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: you on another Bachelor franchise, says some other time, so
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: we can continue to watch your evolution. Okay, appreciate that.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Thanks for all the support and love. Love Ben Ashley.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: I almost say that that's our new intros. Let's steal it. Ben.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I gotta meet you brother when you get here. Let's
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: meet up. Let's talk. Hey, back to luck stay. I
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: would love to meet up with you man. Good luck
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: the rest of the day. And now you're talking to
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: everybody and anybody. Have fun, rest up and enjoy the
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: wild ride that has yet to end for you. Yes, sir,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: thank you brother. Be great. I'm in the studio. This
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: is a big deal for me. It feels so good
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: to be back. But you know what feels better what
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: talking to you. Actually, I've missed you. Then, I've missed you.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: How was your trip? It was absolutely amazing and uh
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: it was two weeks of something that I will never forget.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Honduras has a special place in my heart. Like I've
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: talked about before, but this trip out of any I
• 22:26
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• 22:29
  Speaker 1: me that uh, served well, loved well, and um came
• 22:33
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• 22:36
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• 22:58
  Speaker 1: are so many, so many stories to share from that
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: and UH on some other podcast or some other time,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I would love to tell you all about it. But
• 23:05
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• 23:12
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• 25:59
  Speaker 1: so we're talking live about this week's finale episode of
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: The Bachelorette. Ashley, you were texting me throughout the whole episode.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts and feelings that are kind of
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: all encompassing and then I'll ask some detailed questions here
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: about last night's episode. All Right, So I just came
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: back from Access Hollywood and I spent honestly four hours
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: analyzing this episode. And I felt a little bit bad
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: because I kind of was like crapping on Rachel's decision.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: And it's just because as an audience, we really connected
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: with Peter last night, even though the past couple of
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: weeks we've been like, oh, it's Brian. The connection between
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Brian and her is the strongest. Somehow, they pulled us
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: in to really root for Rachel and Peter last night
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: and then left us just not feeling this proposal is
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: the first time, and I think maybe ever that I
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: really didn't. I hate saying that I got I've gotten
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: crap before for saying that I didn't feel a proposal,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: But I think it's just because of how the scene
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: before one. You know, how do you cry over a
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: man and beg him and plead him to get down
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: on his knees and propose, and then twenty four hours
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: you're delighted when another man asked you to marry him.
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing. And actually, you can't help
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: your feelings. If you're feeling that way, that's fine, that's fair,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: And I think a lot of batchel Nation was kind
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: of feeling that way. It doesn't take away from from
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: the engagement that Rachel and Brian or the love that
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: they have. We don't know that we we can't be
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: critical of that. It just didn't feel as um, we
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: just didn't feel the emotion of it like we we
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: do in previous seasons. So that leads me this question,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: did Rachel pick the wrong guy? I don't know. I
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: am not only speaking from my own like personal type.
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: You know, of course I can go in this and
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: having not met Brian, or Peter at this point, I'd
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: be like, I would have picked Peter. She made a mistake,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: But no, she like made a mistake in my own
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: point of view. But obviously there was something with Brian
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: that she's felt the entire time. And you know the
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: information from the interview I just got, she said that
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: she felt that it was Brian since Geneva and she
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: just this Peter thing. I don't know if that is
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: really the case, then why would she continue to harp
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: on the fact that Peter wouldn't propose it. Yeah, it
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: makes sense. And as we just talked to Eric, you know,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: you had mentioned that in this interview today, Rachel says
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: that she was feeling things or she was certain about
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Brian and Geneva. Eric was saying he kind of felt
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: the same way, right, He kind of saw that Brian
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: and Rachel maybe had something bigger and better than the
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: rest um. But it still doesn't take away from the fact,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: like you said that that last night you felt like
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Rachel was still very much into Peter, and Peter showed
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: emotion like he thought there was something for the future there.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: He just it ready to propose, which brings up the
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: question of the night Is that an okay mindset to
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: go into is saying, Rachel, I love you, I want
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: to be with you. I know we have something. I'm
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: just not ready yet. Let's take our time off the
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: show to get to know each other better. Or is
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: is the Bachelor and bachelort better and better and best
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: when engagement happens every time at the end. I think
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: you've been kind of refreshing to have not have seen
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: an engagement at the end. It's seems so protocol at
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: this point, but is it really what people should be
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: doing after two months? I mean, you did it? Did
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: you feel comfortable in doing that? I mean I was
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: thinking about this last night. I was watching the show,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: and after the show, I I was sitting in my
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: couch and I thought, I took myself back to that moment,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: and I'm glad I did it. The feelings I had
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: at that time, the love that I had at that time,
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: uh warranted an engagement. So I can't for from my experience,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: I'd say I'm happy ID in that moment. But my
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: advice to Nick when he went on The Bachelor was Nick,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: don't go into this thinking you have to get engage
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: at the end, because I from talking to people and
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: knowing how the process works. It feels almost like you
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: have to, but don't feel like you have to. Just
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: walking off the show with a partner maybe the best thing.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: Remember when one Pablo did this and he got so
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: much backlash, I mean, Ashley didn't want Pablo real backlash
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: because he didn't propose. Was that? I mean, I don't
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: think that. I don't think that's the truth of it.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: I think I look back on one publicism, I'm thinking
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: that guy got a lot of backlash for a lot
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: of decisions he made, not just not engage proposing to somebody. Yeah,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: he didn't even say I love you After all of that, then,
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: can I ask you a really tough question? Um, of course,
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: I'm warning you ahead of time. Yeah, Okay, So we're
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: talking about Brian and Peter and and could Rachel's feelings
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: for Peter ruined her relationship with Brian? And this is
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: harsh forgive me. Do you think the fact that you
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: said I love you to Jojo caused problems that went
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: throughout your relationship with Lauren? That is a tough question. Yes,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: I do. Um, I don't think it's easy and and
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: and I've said it before, and I'll say it again,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Lauren Hander handled herself extremely well given the circumstances. And
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: the circumstances was it I I expressed feelings for somebody
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: else a few days before proposing UM to a woman
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: that I was asking to spend the rest of my
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: life with. UM. So I do think looking back, and
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: it's kind of hard for me to even answer, but yes,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: I think it did have issues. The only way to
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: really handle it is communicate openly, and that's why I
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: tried to do with Lauren Woll say hey, this happened,
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: this is how I was feeling. But my love for
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: you is so much greater than I ever had for
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: the other person. UM. And I guess maybe to the
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: to the person you're proposing to, maybe that just doesn't
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: make sense right, And I can see where it doesn't.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: It's confusing, it's hard. So I don't know how Brian's
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: handling it today. I mean, she told four women last night,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: or four men last night that she loved them UM
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: or I guess four men over the last two weeks.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: I would imagine Brian's probably a little confused right now.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: And I hope they're they're talking openly about it okay. Well,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: it seems as if Rachel's changing her tune a little
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: bit today. She did say I love you to basically
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: her top four guys, but she's saying that it was
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: a different kind of I love you. It wasn't I'm
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: in love with you. And Ben, I mean, did you
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: did you mean it in the same way to Jojo
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: as you did with Lauren. Um My first response and
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: I and I've said it before, I'll sit again. I
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: think Rachel has done a great job this season. Is
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: you have to own up to what you say. And um,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: you know, playing those those games like I meant it
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: this way, but I said it this way. It just
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: doesn't work that way. And you've yes, you've put yourself
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: out there. But she said what she said, and you
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: have to own up to that, just and and and
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: so in my situation, you know how I explained it
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: was I loved both people, but when I looked at Lauren,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: it was a love like I don't know how I'm
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: gonna live my life without you. With Jojo, it was
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: an appreciation. It was still love. I mean, I still
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: to this day, I hope the best for Jojo and Lauren.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Um that those those feelings have just Hey, I want
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: the best for you, I want to protect you. I
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: don't want life to bring you harm. Those feelings don't
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: fade and and that's what I meant, you know, just
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: kind of like Eric was saying earlier, he really loved
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Rachel and he he wants the best for and he
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: doesn't know if those feelings we ever go away. And
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: that's okay, but you I hope she owns up to it,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: and she just says, yes, I said it. But at
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, Brian was a guy from
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: me and we'll leave it at that, okay. So that
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: actually brings me something. You say, I don't know how
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: to live my life without you. That's how you felt
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: about Lauren, and we hope that that's how Rachel feels
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: about Brian. But it also seems like Rachel really really
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: doesn't want Peter to be the next Bachelor. She said
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: had um many times throughout the after the Final Rose
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: last night, that she doesn't think he's fit for this process.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: And sure, maybe a guy who isn't ready to propose
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: after two months, maybe this is not the path of
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: love for him. But I also have to say that
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: I think this is coming from a place of jealousy,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: and I think that she may have She really should
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: have probably thought this through when she was breaking up
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: with Peter. Should she have thought, you know what, this
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: guy is probably going to be the next Bachelor if
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: I don't pick him. So I have to be sure
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: that I am so set on Brian being the love
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: of my life that it's okay, and I want Peter
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: to go on and be happy. Yeah, you're actually, you're right.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I'm kind of asking you a
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: question to kind of not asking questions. I feel like
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: she's going to be very bitter and jealous watching Peter
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: become the next Bachelor if he is. But I am,
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: but like I I'm My question to you, Ben is,
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: if you are truly truly in love with your person,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: do you really even care? I mean, that would be
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: my response if that's truly how she feels. If there
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: is a level of jealousy there, none of us know that,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: But if there is, she's gonna have to get over it,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: um and get over it quickly because there's a good
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: chance that Peter will be the Bachelor. If it's not Peter,
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: then it's gonna be another guy, you know that she
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: probably has feelings for as well. For me, it was
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: easy like that was I guess that was a confusing
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: season in my life because when Jojo became the Bachelor
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: I was excited for but and this doesn't take anyway
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: from Jojo, I just didn't care, you know, like it
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: was Yeah, good for her. I hope she finds somebody.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: I'm happy. Uh, life's moving forward, Life's good, and whatever
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: happens to her, I hope it's it's it's a good thing.
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: So that was my feelings. I think when you you
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: bring up a good point, actually one that I want
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: to throw out there to the listeners. Why why is
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: she um oh angry or towards Peter? Is there's something
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: not something still there? Because that's a that's a terrible
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: um assumption. But why why can't she just look at
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Peter and say, hey, yeah we didn't work out. I
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: don't love the way you treated me, but go off
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: be the bachelor, have a blast. I'm happy, I'm moving
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: on with Brian. It just didn't seem it didn't feel
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: like that last night. Did it feel like that to you? No? No, no,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: not at all, which is why I was really curious
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: to see how you felt when Jojo was announced as
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: the bachelor at and You You just ends with that
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: I was sitting next to it. You know, you remember
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: that she was announced the bachelor with me sitting next
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: to her. Um and or I think it was right
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: or at least you were in the audience or oh no,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: you were in the audience of after her final rets. Well,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: however it was I was. I was very close to
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: the situation when she was announced as the bachelor at
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: and You know what, maybe it was just like I
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: just made think Joe is really cool, really great, Like
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: I thought she was going to do a good job.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I was happy to hear she was getting announced, like
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: I couldn't think of anybody better. Even if you didn't
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: think she was suited for the role of bachelor, you
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: still would have been some portive of it in public, correct, Yeah,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I mean I would hope that even if if I
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: wasn't supportive of it in private, I wouldn't support it
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: in public. But yeah, I mean, if I wasn't supportive
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: of it, I just want to probably said anything, because
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: you don't want to lie to everybody you don't want,
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: but you also don't want to be the Debbie downer
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: to to the to the franchise. So um, I was
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: supportive of Jojo I. I guess that's where maybe Rachel
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: and I can't relate is I was supportive of of
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: the next Bachelor, and she doesn't seem like she's a
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: supportive of the bachelor that if if it was Peter.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: But there is somebody that she seems to be very
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: supportive of, which is shocking me today because and I'll
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: tell him this what we have him on the line.
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I honestly didn't know him when she said his name.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: And so Rachel today has been saying that Alex, it's
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: who she hopes is a bachelor. So we have Alex
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: on the line and we're gonna talk to him in
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: a minute. But before we do that, actually has something
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: to talk to you about. Yeah, we want to talk
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: a wedding playing because Brian and Rachel will hopefully be
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: planning a wedding soon. So I'm going to suggest that
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: they head over to zola dot com. Zola is a
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: wedding registry that will do anything for love, much like US.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Couples can register for brands that they see on an
• 38:16
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• 38:20
  Speaker 1: from notes to photos. It's a registry that is completely personalized,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: so it's not like it's not boring, it's creative. You
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: can get them dishes if you want, but you can
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: also get them wine tasting and sonoma. So it's anything
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: that you think is perfect for this particular couple. Um,
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: it's available everywhere. Couples can have gifts that are shipped now,
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: shipp later, they can exchange them. Um. Zola offers matching
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: prices to make gift giving easier for the guests of
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: the wedding because I always have difficulty coming up with
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: wedding gifts. What about you, Ben, I'm don't get invited
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: to weddings. I'm pretty sure you do, maybe not bachelor weddings,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: So you grab one bachelor wedding. But it's hard. It's like,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: especially couples in their thirties, You're like, what do you
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: get them? They seem to have everything. So it's just
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: nice that you have this creative registry. And couples will
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: receive ten percent off the entire site for a year
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: to complete their registry, but they're going to have to
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: go to zola dot com slash almost Famous for all
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: the details. Again, Zola is a wedding registry that will
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: do anything for love. We're talking gifts, experiences, funds, all
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: you want in one place, and don't forget fifty dollars
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: off off you go to zola dot com slash almost famous. Wow,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: you really like Zola. You carried that whole promo by yourself.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Nice job. Actually, Um yeah, I mean that's it. Thank
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: you to Zola, Casper and the rest of our sponsors
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: that we'll talk about in the show, because you keep
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: this podcast moving and grooving. Um, that's how we sit
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: here today. So we appreciate you and who we also appreciate.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: Eight is the man that Rachel says should be the
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: next Bachelor. Alex, are you out there? I'm here, Hey, Alex.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Was this big surprising news to you? To hear today
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: that Rachel wants you was the next bachelor seems a
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: bit random to us. I'm pretty sure I was like
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: gonna say that, like, you know, just politically correct answer
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: put out there. It's politically correct. Why is that because
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: you're from Russia doesn't cause any any drama with anyone,
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, it was it was flattering, you know,
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: I do appreciate it, but I think she knows I
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: wouldn't do it even if offered the opportunity to do it.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: We hear that Rachel is quite possessive of her top
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: four guys. Seems like she doesn't want any of those
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: four to be the bachelor. Um. Do you also think
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: she doesn't want to step on the toes of any
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: girls that may have gotten involved with Dean in Paradise? Um?
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: I think she's mentioned before actually that she what didn't
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: want anyone from her season really being a bachelor. And Uh,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know it's because she's possessive or uh maybe
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: I think it's honestly, like coming off the show, I
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: think it takes a little bit of time to like
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: adjust to uh, you know, like the new life or
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: someone like Dean or Peters who's got tons of exposure
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: and uh, you know, their lives are completely different to
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: so like jump to jump in right into the next Bachelor,
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: I think that would be kind of difficult. I mean, Alex,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: I just I just think I heard you correctly, but
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: please reiterate this. You just said if you're asked to
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: be the Bachelor, you wouldn't do it. Why is that
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I was already hasn't been bought, like the exposure like
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: the show puts onto your dating life, you know, which
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: is something to me baby say private or internet, you know.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: And uh so I was actually one of people are
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: really happy was not getting over exposed out there and uh,
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: you know, because not getting go on a normal date
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: and you know, I can tell the girl like what
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: my back story is, and you know, she doesn't know
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: where I'm from, who I am. So I think that's
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: like an important part of dating, you know, it's getting
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: to know each other instead of like going on dating Like, oh,
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: I know what you're all about. That's true. I haven't
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: gone a date in the past year without really having
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: to bring it up, you know, whether or not I
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: want to, or just the fact that it's been such
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: a big part of my life. It's like something's missing
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: if I don't bring it up. Um, you didn't do Paradise.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Is that why? Because you like to keep your dating
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: for life private? Uh? That? And that I mean Paradise
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: is uh you know, it's like Bachelor on steroids. I
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: mean that's way out of my comfort and way if
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: the Bachelor ret was it was something I was hasn't about.
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, Paradise was really out there, so, um, I
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: thought about it. I definitely, uh, you know, considered it
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: because you know, they just had to go out there.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: It has fun with your friends and all that. But that,
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: especially after the whole lot of fiasco was you know,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: the shotdown and all that, it was just a little
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: too much drabre for me. Alex, I mentioned right before
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: you came on and and to take please take offense
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: to it if you feel like you need to, but
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: I'm this this this should not be offensive to you.
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: Um you just said you you would like the fact
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: that you're kind of under the radar. I actually didn't
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: know who you were when Acshuley or when Rachel said, hey,
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: I think Alex would be the next Bachelor. But when
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: I looked you up, I was like, oh, yeah, that
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: guy like and and So I was talking to these
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: girls that are a part of the podcast, and I
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: was like, what do you think of Alex and and
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: they explained to you as hunky, which is the same
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: thing that Nancy wrote to us in an email to
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: the Almost Famous podcast. She says, Dear Benn and Ashley,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: why don't you ever talk about Alex from this season.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: I think he is so hunky. Yeah. Well, I just
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: want to tell you, Alex that I definitely had people
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: would like to set you up with. You've always been
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: on my radar because you are very acute and very sweet. Um.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: I was excited to see you and hopefully Paradise and
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: it's unfortunately we won't be able to get to know
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: you more. But how does it feel to be a
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: hard throw with the Bachelor franchise? Before you answer that
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: real quick? And Ashley has an eye for an attractive male.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: She I mean she has her radar set at all
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: times fast taste. Um, I mean that's flattering to hear. Honestly, Uh,
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: you know, I'll be honest. My life did not changed
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: much since The Best Friend because, you know, because of
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: going on kind of under the radarmy, Yeah you have
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: your you know, sort of like the hardcore fans reaching out.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Its kind of saying you have oh yeah, I, which
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I think is hilarious because I didn't have it, so
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: I didn't have an Instagram coming into that, and we
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: did have this kind of a joke Instagram with my
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: best friend and once people started following, you know, like
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: looking up you know, trying to find me. That's the
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: only thing that was out there, so they started following.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: So up, that's all I have. Now. Yeah, I hate
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: to interrupt you there, Um, I certainly did, but it
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: was just like on point, I was like, this guy
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: cares so little about the attention that he has a
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: joint Instagram. Yeah, you can't expect you, you know, like
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: if you know someone trying to slide into dms, you know,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: my my best friend can do you can check me that. Hey,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: you don't go savage on this, you know, just because
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: you can. So. I actually I don't reply to to anyone,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: but for that reason, I don't want to. Thank God
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: left of me trying to impress my best friend. You know. Um, Alex,
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: do you do you get a lot of d M
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: these days? I mean that's something I've always want to
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: ask a guy coming off the show. I mean, are
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: your d MS loaded up? Do you feel like dating
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: life is just you know, who you meet in person?
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: I think actually, uh, and you know, maybe like the
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: way I was able to portray myself on the show,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: most of the d MS that I saw there was
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: very very positive. Just think kind of like thank you
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: for being just scoofy and being yourself and just uh
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: sing out there having a good time, being genuine. So
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: it's nothing bad. It's like I said, it's so positive
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: and that you know, I think people from the like
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: many times as much as I could. Yeah, in that
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: way that I can't, you know, I can't be sponsor
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: to everyone. But for the most part, it's been it's
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: been great. It's been very positive and um very humble,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: very thank well put for that. And you know, the
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: portrayal that I got, Like, I honestly thought I got
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: a better edit than I deserved. I was way more awkward.
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: I was kind of watching it, you know, and I'm
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: telling my friends with my guys get ready for me
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: to be super active. They're racking. I was shaking and
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: then we're watching. I was like, man, it looks like
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: I have a game. I was like, what, I don't remember.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: It's it's the music, you know, they put the music
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: that behind. Okay, I'm gonna ask this to Dean too.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: How close were you with Peter and why was Rachel
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: so insistent on him proposing? If she if? She claims
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: that she knew since Geneva that he wasn't the one UM,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: so when you get to my friendships, you know, I see, uh,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: you know, with Dean and Peter Iggy probably the three
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: closest guys. I actually took my time really making friends.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: Like I'm not someone that makes friends real quick. You know,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: we just get thrown in that world. Uh, and what's
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: pretend to be friends? I took my time. I wanted
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: to I know what these guys are about, you know,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: kind of shoulder colors. So honestly, probably Dean and Peter.
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: I didn't get really close with them to like Norwhare
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: and maybe Denmark. I was really towards the end of
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: my journey, and I stayed in contact with them since that.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: Um as far as uh in the proposal, you know,
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: I hate to be like, I don't want to pick sides.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm in great terms with it, both Rachel
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: and Theater, and you know I'm I I told both
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: of them as a guy felt like a you know,
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: a child of a broken family, you know, trying to
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: please with both both parents. U Uh, you know for me,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: you know what I told Rachel, I was hazardant about
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: the process myself. It's kind of like there where I
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: didn't know if I would be able to propose the
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: day and of uh, what was it two months? So
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: I understand where he's coming from, and uh, I would
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: see understand where she's coming from, because that's what she
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: came to to find out of this, you know, to
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: get the proposal. And uh, I think it was kind
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: of overblown as far as like that was the that
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: was the reason they broke off where it didn't work out.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: I think I don't think that was as much as
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: big of a part to the break up as uh
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: as it seemed. So that's my view on that pick
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: the right guy, I think so yeah, I think she
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: really was looking for that someone that assertive, that comfortable confidence.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: And you know Brian, you know, he stay the same
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: throughout that whole journey. I mean from Dave one, he
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: was all that. And uh, because you know a lot
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: of guys said, uh, you know a lot of guys
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: that got kicked off, they said, oh, I didn't go
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: I didn't jump in at first. You know, I kind
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: of helped back and you know, me being one of
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: those guys, we're all super hesitant. But Brian knew what
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: he wanted to hit, a game plan. He was already
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: remember Brian and I actually talked a lot, and you know,
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: I want to say that, you know, I was surprised
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: with the edit he got. And uh, the other thing
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: is even my guys talking about him on the show.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: I mean, how was I supposed to know how smooth
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Brian was, Like I never saw he was interaction with
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: with Rachel. So I was surprised that the other guys
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: knew about him, Like all right, um, but yeah, I
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: think Brian was more of what she was looking for. Um,
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: And uh, that's why she picked him. I don't think
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: it's it's because Peter didn't propose that she you know,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: she went with Brian. I think it was always Brian.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: I should mention that Rachel said today that that she
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: was offered a proposal by Peter. She said, you know,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: while they sat there on that couch during their various
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: last minutes together, he said, if you really you want
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: me to do this, I'll do it for you because
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: it's what you right. Yeah, he said. It was kind
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: of like a compromise. You know, she didn't want to
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: you know, she didn't want him to propose just because
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: that's what she wanted. It was a way to keep
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: her pride at least, Alex, any last comments, I mean
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: to kind of close up here. Are you happy you
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: did the Bachelorette? It sounds like your life hasn't changed much.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: Do you look back on this experience and see you
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: glad you did it? Oh? Absolutely, I mean I I
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: think honestly, I've probably had the most fun out there.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, all the group dates that I went through,
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: like that was a perfect combination over you know, great
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: experience without getting overexposed or like putting out there in
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: front of any drama or anything, because that was a
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: big I mean, that is their selling point. Hey, you
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: wan't come out here for once in my life and
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: an opportunity meet a great girl and you know, enjoy
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: life you could never experience otherwise. And it's it's hard
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: to be so, I mean it really. I mean you
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: I booked on it. You know how fun it is.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: Oh it's not always fun, Alex. It's not always fun, buddy,
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Hey Alex. So that's the way that was at all harder.
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: That was not all fun. That was a more stressful
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: than uh yeah, than just hanging out with your buddies
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: and dayton one girl with all of them. Hey, Alex,
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: keep being hunky buddy, keep keep being hunky and I
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: hope we can talk to you again soon. On the
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcast, I appreciate the guys, Thanks man Ashley.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: Alex seems, uh, you know, pretty pretty chill. He seems
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: like he has his head on straight. I like, I
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: like his perspective. You know, I think he's one of
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: the few that haven't hasn't taken advantage of the social
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: media fame or the monetary um options outside of the show.
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: So you gotta give a guy credit for being unique
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: and and that's exactly what it is. And and he's
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: a pleasure to talk to. But he also kind of
• 52:05
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• 52:07
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• 52:09
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• 54:47
  Speaker 1: All right, it's time to call Dean. Hey guys, oh
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: you mean hey miss you? I know I miss you too.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: A rough twelve hours wait wait, well, just to be clear,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: what was happening twelve hours ago. We're just watching the
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: finale together, okay, wed We went to a sweet Courtesy
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: for Ever twenty one and I heard radio Um alright,
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: so Dean, I'm gonna let Ben start out with you,
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: because you guys haven't really had a chance to talk yet.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I mean, I was I was
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: just about to mute my my Mike, because I was
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: figuring Ashley was just going to go on and on
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: and on here flirting and talking about how beautiful his
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: eyes were and all of that. Not m I don't
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: really have a place here anymore, but I'm glad I
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: get a chance to talk to dany babies. Nice to
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: talk to you, ma'am. Alexander. Uh. It was absolutely incredible,
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: I tell you what. I went down there open to
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: whatever was going to exist, and God absolutely blew me
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: away with everything happening. So thank you for asking and
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: and just real click to all the list's out there.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: I was sitting on the back of a truck going
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: through um a field in Honduras next to one of
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: the people from the United States that came down with me,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: and she looks at me and she says, hey, do
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: you know Dean. And uh. This lady's name was Sarah,
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: And I said, you know what, I've talked him on
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: the phone for just a short bit, but I a'll
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: know Dean. She goes, I was sitting with Dean on
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: a beach just a few months ago and was able
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: to talk to him about life. And I think he
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: is a great dude. And and Dean, I don't know
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: if you if you know him talking about but one
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: of the your friends from Los Angeles actually went down
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: to Honduras with me this trip and she speaks so
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: highly of you, and she said in that moment, you
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: gotta get Dean down here. He has the heart for this.
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: He loves to serve. This guy would get blown away
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: if you can make the hunters. So, Dean, I'm challenging
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: you to join me on a trip to Central America
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: very soon. Hey November. That's right man, Uh Dean, we
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: uh I love. I can talk on and on about Honduras.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Everybody you know knows that behind the scenes. But one
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: thing I want to hear from you. You know you
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: were missed this week. I'll tell you that you're missed
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: by fans. You're missed by Ashley a lot and I
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: see him all the time. Um, Dean, can you catch
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: us up a little bit. What has life been like,
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: you know, since the show? Um, since the show has
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: been aired, I mean, obviously you get recognized a little
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: bit more. Um, I don't know if it's been it's
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: been kind of a whirlind I just kind of figure
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: it out and taking one step at a time. That's
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: kind of why it's great to people to hang out
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: with people like Ashley and obviously we sp briefly, especially
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: able to talk to you guys who have kind of
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: been put through the ringer already because one perspective that
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have otherwise. I mean, you're getting a ton
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: of attention. I'm sure you you you arguably are the
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: fan favorite from this season. Uh, you went on Paradise,
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: so you have some experience now in the Bachelor franchise.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, are you finding it overwhelming or are you
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: keeping your head straight on? I mean I'm trying to
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: keep my head on my shoulders. Honestly. It's whenever someone
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: approaches um, either me or asked me whoever I'm with,
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: ask for a picture, Like it's just great to be
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: able to be the reason to put a smile on
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: someone's face. So it's like, as long as you're able
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: to embrace that and enjoy it, I think it's I mean,
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: I'm having absolute lass of it, so that's awesome. Yeah,
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: I've I've, like I said earlier, I've I've talked to
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: multip people that know you and knew you before the show,
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: and and and one thing that I haven't heard from
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: the people that actually know you, but I've heard through
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: the media and through um kind of the reaction from
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation is, you know, Dean's too young, He's too
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: immature for this, you know. And I don't know if
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: people remember when I first did The Bachelorette, I was
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: twenty five years old, and I had the same things
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: said about me. Have you taken that personally? What would
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: be your response to those critics? No, Um, I don't
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: think it personally. I mean, I understand I kind of
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: go through your life with a very like jovial mentality.
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: I like to be able to be a kid at
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: any given moment. Uh, But I don't know, it's really
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: hard to say if only don't take myself or anything
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: around me too seriously. And I can see how that
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: kind of points me in this but sometimes, but um,
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: I just like to know has fun and I want
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: to make sure the people out around there having fun too.
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: So that's right. Well, Hey, one last question before I
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: turned over at Yeah, I think you're good there, buddy. Hey,
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: you might want to jump in the bushes high man,
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: they're coming out. Yeah, but those days are behind me.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Those days are behind me. Uh, Dean, I have one
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: last question for you, now turn it back over to Ashley,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: because I know she probably has a lot more insight
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: into who you are and what's your life like now. Uh.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: It came out today that Rachel's saying that, you know,
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: she told four people she um loved him, but she
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: didn't tell four people she was in love with him.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: What's your response that? Because you're one of those guys? Um,
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: I guess I didn't see that clip of Rachel saying that.
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know, I don't really don't how
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: to respond that. To be honest, I think that now
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: she's obviously doing what's right by her and in the moment,
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: she was obviously living in the moment. So um, you know,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: she's happily engaged. She seems to be pretty happy with Brian,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: and um, I'm very happy for the two of them.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: I hope that. You know, obviously all the immediate senstion
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: is positive and everything, and um, you know, she she
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: has to do what's right by her and Brian at
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: this point. So, man, you are learning quickly to politically
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: correct to say I was like, man, I'm a fan
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: of that. I tell you what job there was, Like
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: he is going to Jared and Ben route, He's just
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: being so careful. But come on, you know you can't
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: get away with that with me. I'm the anti politically
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: correct girl the franchise. Yeah, sometimes when I think about things,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: it's like, well, do I want to be politically correct
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: or do I want to speak um, you know, perfectly
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: off the cuff. But no, I mean, at the end
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: of day, like we were all there for Rachel, we
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: all were to make her happy. So you know, it's
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: it's clear to see that she's incredibly happy with Brian,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, that's all we
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: could really hope for. So, okay, I'm gonna ask you
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: a couple of hard questions. Once the wind stops blowing.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: The wind's blowing, just like that proposal night, I think
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: there's something it seems like it could have been foreshadowing
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: in the episode, and right now it's just ironic that
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: you are in the midst of that. So maybe Rachel
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: is a little possessive over the top four. Maybe she's
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: possessive over all of her guys. Is that why you
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: think she has selected Alex as the bachelor the next
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: bachelor of her choosing? Um, yeah, I saw that. I
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: think she's just trying to throw everyone off. I mean,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know, like you. You look at it objectively,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: and it seems like Peter's got the whole package. And
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: I think that she was just so emotionally attached to Peter,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: and um, you know, maybe things didn't necessarily end the
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: way that either of them wanted it to, so she's
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: just been ready to see hand thrust back into that
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: spotlight like that. And UM, you know, obviously we have
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: no idea what's going through Rachel's head, but it makes
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: sense from yours perspective. And I argued that, Um, if
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: you still feel a sense of jealousy and you're not
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: comfortable seeing your ex with some other people dating other people,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: that are you really truly over them? And are you
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: really in the mindset to be with someone and be
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: planning a wedding. Um, I mean I have had my
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: jealous moments as well. Yeah, and so have I. So,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: I mean it's really hard to say, but um, she was.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: She was so close with both Brian and Peter and
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: Eric obviously too, so I definitely understand that she doesn't
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: want to have to relive any of the romantic moments
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: to an entire season. Um. I mean, obviously she was
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: supposed to Alex as well, but I think that the
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: emotions were We're not quite strong with him as she
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: would as it was the left two guys that she has.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: Thanks for opening up the door for me to say,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: I'm the last person to talk about dealing with jealousy
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: on the show. I have dealt with it in the
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: past very poorly on Paradise, So I feel you go, Yeah,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: I can't watch my ex is dating other people either.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: That's when you were talking to the parent if I
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: remember correctly, right, yes, my therapist. So then Ashley Ashley
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: is going to be out of town next week and
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: Dean's gonna co host with you, Ben, that's right. I mean,
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: I'm sitting here thinking I could be co hosting this
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: show with the next Bachelor, and he doesn't seem to
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: be even promoting himself for this role. So I'm gonna say, Hey,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Peter might have the full package. Eric might have the
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: full package. Shoot, Alex might be the full package. But
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: I got a co host next week that I think
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: is the full package. It's Deanie, Baby's baby. All I
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: want to say is, Dean, how's your package? Classic Amy? Uh? So?
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: Next week, Um, it's gonna be the first week of Paradise.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: We'll get the inside scoop from the from the man
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: uh that I believe. I don't know this, but I
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: would assume was the hot catch on Paradise. That's Dean
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: right there, Dean. Next week, I look forward to talking
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: to you, ma'am. Can I just say, like the girls
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: who weren't after you in Paradise, what's wrong with them? Actually?
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: You flirted with every single one of our callers so
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: far on this episode. Are you gonna be in studio
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: next week? I'm not. Nope, Sorry, He'll be in studio
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: in Denver. Yeah so I Dean, I'll be in Denver,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: You'll be in l A. We'll we'll make this thing
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: awesome and uh, I appreciate you. You co hosted with me.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: You'll carry the whole episode, I promise. I'm looking forward.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: I think were gonna have a black all right, man, hey,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: we'll talk to you then. All right, take care, guys,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, Ashley, have you have you have you picked
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: your chin up off the table yet? What do you
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: mean you guys? I am not like that with Dan.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: I mean I try not to be actually, actually, come on,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: let's just be honest. Here. You are. I've said this
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: many times before. I'll say it again. You are the
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: best at making people feel better about themselves than they might,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: you know, feel before. So let's just do a quick
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: little bit here. You got. I'm gonna time you. He
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: got twenty seconds. Can you explain Dean in twenty seconds? Yeah? Okay,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: so okay. So Dean is exactly that jovial guy that
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: he just describes himself as. And I love that he has.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: He has maturity, and he definitely has intelligence, but he's
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: able to just have fun and like, just this is
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: a description of how great he is, just encapsulating how
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: much fun you can have with Dean. Um. I went
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: to Best Buy with him, and then there's a Toys
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: ARUs next door, where like, should we go playing Toys
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: r Us? They're like yeah, And then we saw basking Robins.
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: Should we get ice fro him? Yeah? And then we
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: get in the car and he started playing Backstreet Boys
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: and New Kids on the Block for me. Like, that's
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: how thoughtful he is and how fun. Um, we we
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: can all agree Ashley thinks Dean's great. Uh. We obviously
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: think Dean's great because, like we said, next week, he'll
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: be co hosting with me as Ashley is out of town.
• 1:05:57
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  Speaker 1: listener emails. The best part of the episode. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: today's episode was actually full of goodness. But it was
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  Speaker 1: really good. It was really good. I've learned a lot
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  Speaker 1: about myself and these these great gentlemen who just participated
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  Speaker 1: in a season of the Bachelorette that I would say
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  Speaker 1: was good. Rachel did a great job. It was really good.
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  Speaker 1: It just wasn't a great ending, but Rachel did a
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  Speaker 1: tremendous job. To see. She was a great bachelorette. Alright,
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  Speaker 1: So this is from Susan. It says, Hi, Ben and Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: thank you guys for all the question answer segments. They
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  Speaker 1: make my morning cardio more entertaining. Is it possible that
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  Speaker 1: Ben will consider taking another shot at being the Bachelor
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  Speaker 1: if it's offered to him. Also, if Dean is the
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  Speaker 1: next bachelor, would actually consider going on the show, Thank
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  Speaker 1: you guys, Susan. Susan, I could never possibly do that.
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  Speaker 1: Plus Dena and I are too close in real life.
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  Speaker 1: That would be bizarre if I were just to be like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'm here I'm gonna just not be that girl ever,
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  Speaker 1: Never going to be that girl, no matter who's about sir. Um. Actually,
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  Speaker 1: I'd love to say I believed you with that statement,
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  Speaker 1: but I think if Dean was a bachelor and you
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  Speaker 1: had an opportunity, I would see you walk out of
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  Speaker 1: a limo at some point. I wouldn't do it if
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  Speaker 1: he told me to. Let's talk about the real question here, Ben,
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  Speaker 1: would you ever be the Bachelor again? Um? That's a
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  Speaker 1: good question. And it's interesting that I don't have that
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  Speaker 1: email in front of me. That was kind of a surprise. UM.
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  Speaker 1: So that's uh, I'm sweating. Um. That's a good question,
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  Speaker 1: and it's one that I don't want to answer politically
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  Speaker 1: correct here. So I'm gonna be as honest as I
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  Speaker 1: can be. Um, at this point in my life, I
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  Speaker 1: am not ready to be the next Bachelor. I will
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  Speaker 1: say that. I. Uh, I just doesn't feel right. Um.
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  Speaker 1: For whatever reason, it doesn't feel like a time in
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  Speaker 1: my life that I would be the best man possible
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  Speaker 1: for the women that would come on this this season. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, honestly, when you're fresh out of a relationship,
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  Speaker 1: you don't I just feel like that would be almost
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  Speaker 1: disrespectful too, right. I mean, it would be really hard
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  Speaker 1: for me to imagine watching If I were to watch
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  Speaker 1: my ex go and be the Bachelorette and it's all
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  Speaker 1: over TV, it'd be hard for me. Um. So at
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  Speaker 1: this point in my life, I don't think it's the
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  Speaker 1: wise thing to do. So I will not be your
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  Speaker 1: bachelor for this next season, but you'd be open for
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  Speaker 1: a season or two away from now. Uh again, And
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: and this this is gonna come off a little soft,
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  Speaker 1: but I closed myself off to a lot of opportunities. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: In life, I've said I'm not gonna ever do that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not gonna ever do this. You know, if you
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  Speaker 1: would ask me it's five years ago, you're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: the next Bachelor someday, I would have said, no way,
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  Speaker 1: no shot, I would never do that. And I did it,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm glad I did it. So I'm gonna say this,
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  Speaker 1: I'm open to discussing it and thinking it through. If
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  Speaker 1: life kind of aligns again for that, then possibly It's
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  Speaker 1: been a good thing for me in a lot of ways.
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  Speaker 1: It's been hard in a lot of ways. It's been
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  Speaker 1: as sometimes actually a bad thing. But it's a huge
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  Speaker 1: part of my life now and uh, I can't say
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  Speaker 1: I would never do it again. That is a great
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  Speaker 1: response and in surprising. I don't know. I thought you
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  Speaker 1: were really going to cut it off. But it's good,
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  Speaker 1: you know, And at this point it does feel cut off.
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  Speaker 1: I want to be sure to say that, like, at
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  Speaker 1: this point in my life it feels very cut off
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  Speaker 1: and it doesn't feel you know. I have a with
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  Speaker 1: Generous coffee company, with Mahogany workplace, the blog, with this podcast.
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  Speaker 1: It's amazing. In my full time job. Life is busy
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  Speaker 1: and it's good and I'm doing a lot of things
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  Speaker 1: that I enjoy. Stepping taking a step into the bachelor, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: just doesn't seem to be fitting and I don't think
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  Speaker 1: it will ever be fitting again. Alright, but but if
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  Speaker 1: if you see me, if you see me one day
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  Speaker 1: standing in front of the mansion, you know, life really
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  Speaker 1: got screwed up from been here all right? Well? Ben,
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  Speaker 1: That actually leads into our next question, which is from Zoe.
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  Speaker 1: Hey love the podcast a lot. My question for you, Ben,
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  Speaker 1: do you ever think or miss Joe? Joe? Do you
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  Speaker 1: guys ever keep in touch? So I don't want any
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: of these emails in front of me, this treat, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: this is his blast bend day. You've been they've been
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  Speaker 1: building up. Do I ever miss Jojo? Um? I think
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  Speaker 1: Jojo is great? I do. I've never not said that.
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  Speaker 1: I've never I think Jojo is a ton of fun.
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  Speaker 1: She's a beautiful person inside and out. I've met Jordan's
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  Speaker 1: I think Jordan's incredible. They seem very happy. I don't
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  Speaker 1: miss Jojo. No, Like the feeling of longing for Jojo
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  Speaker 1: isn't a feeling that I'm familiar with. It never has been.
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  Speaker 1: But if I saw Jojo uh and Jordan or just
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  Speaker 1: Jojo or just Jordan, I'd be excited about it. It'd
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  Speaker 1: be awesome to see him again. I would. I would
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  Speaker 1: love to spend time with both of them, catch up
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  Speaker 1: on life and and you know, celebrate life as friends. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I think what was the second part of
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  Speaker 1: that question? There? You guys keep into keep in touch. No,
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  Speaker 1: we don't keep in touch. I haven't actually don't have
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  Speaker 1: seen her at one event, um since we got off
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  Speaker 1: the show. But obviously she's incredibly busy and uh, and
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  Speaker 1: we we haven't kept in great touch. But I promise
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  Speaker 1: if we did see each other I'm sure it would
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  Speaker 1: be like you know, we didn't miss a beat. Would
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  Speaker 1: just be awesome to see friends again. That is wonderful
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  Speaker 1: to hear. Um, Ashley, I gotta step on you for
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  Speaker 1: a second, because we got to remind the listeners to
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  Speaker 1: email us anytime with these questions. Okay, we'll try to
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  Speaker 1: answer them. We won't answer all of them, I promise
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: you that, but will answer the the good ones. Um,
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  Speaker 1: but please email Ben and Ashley at i heeart media
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  Speaker 1: dot com anytime, and who knows, maybe one day you'll
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  Speaker 1: get your answers answered right here on the almost famous podcast. Well,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: we got to finally see that season long a preview
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: for Bachelor in Paradise. It's gonna be my first season
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: watching without being a part of it. Like basically ever,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: season one didn't count. Um. The thing that was weird
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: about that promo is it was not romantic whatsoever. Didn't
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  Speaker 1: see a hint at romance. Just seemed kind of like
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  Speaker 1: girls gone wild. What do you think about it? Oh,
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  Speaker 1: jeez ah, yeah, I would agree there there wasn't a
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  Speaker 1: lot of romance. I saw some. Um, I saw a
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  Speaker 1: lot of things that I don't know if my eyes
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  Speaker 1: should see and Uh, I saw a lot of tears,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: which is surprising considering the um just kind of how
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: the show kind of had to pause and get back on.
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  Speaker 1: So there's obviously emotion involved. I would imagine there's romance involved.
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  Speaker 1: I actually, and then I can't say who. I've heard
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: through the Bachelor Grapevine that there are some couples that
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: are still dating that came off of Paradise, so we'll
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: have to look and see who. That could be true,
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  Speaker 1: So there might be some romance. And also a side note,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: there's like a frame where if you slow it down
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: you can see Adam's bare button. Really yeah, actually more that.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: More on that later. Hey, here we go, guys. It's
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: so good to be back. Actually, I have missed you
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: so much. It is good to talk to you again.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: You are just a light in my life, and when
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: I'm away for too long it feels a little darker
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: than before. We're gonna miss you next week, though this
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: will be my first time doing this without you. You're
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: gonna do Tuesday and I'll be back for Wednesday because
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: we're gonna have two episodes next week for the premier
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: of Bachelor in Paradise. See See Your Film Me in
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: as we go here. This is how light we are.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: I don't even know who I'm talking to when I'm
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: talking to him. So we have two podcasts for the
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: first week of Bachelor in Paradise, Dean and myself then
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: will be hosting on Tuesday, and like I just found out,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: Ashley and I will be back on Wednesday. So actually,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: I'll miss you, but not for too long. But you
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  Speaker 1: know who, we will miss all the fans out there,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: so we'll talk to you then. I've been been, I've
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