Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / Doug Band And His Epstein Related Congressional Transcript (Part 5) (7/24/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
- 0:03Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up
- 0:06Speaker 1: where we left off with Doug Band and his conversation
- 0:10Speaker 1: with congress Question and again, I know you spoke about
- 0:15Speaker 1: this earlier, but to dive in a little bit more,
- 0:18Speaker 1: can you explain what your role was with President Clinton
- 0:21Speaker 1: after he left the White House? Answer? My role when
- 0:24Speaker 1: he left the White House, I was still finishing law school,
- 0:27Speaker 1: so I was going to night school part time, you know,
- 0:30Speaker 1: working full time to support myself, which was a lot.
- 0:33Speaker 1: My role initially was just a continuation of what I
- 0:36Speaker 1: did of my role as the President's aid when he
- 0:39Speaker 1: was in the White House. Question what were those responsibilities? Answer?
- 0:44Speaker 1: Those responsibilities were as was said earlier, his body man.
- 0:48Speaker 1: I travel with them, maintained schedule, tried to keep them
- 0:51Speaker 1: on time, giving his briefing materials. I was a staffer.
- 0:55Speaker 1: Question and did that role change over the course of
- 0:58Speaker 1: your employment with President Clinton after he left the White House? Answer?
- 1:02Speaker 1: You know, as I said earlier to the Congressman, the
- 1:05Speaker 1: staff was small, so I think everybody jumped in and
- 1:08Speaker 1: did whatever different roles, So my role I think morphed
- 1:11Speaker 1: over time. Into doing more things, but inside the staff,
- 1:14Speaker 1: inside his staff, in his office. Question, so, during this
- 1:18Speaker 1: time after he leaves the White House, generally speaking, if
- 1:21Speaker 1: somebody wanted to speak with President Clinton or a arrange
- 1:25Speaker 1: a meeting with him, how would that work? Answer? You know,
- 1:28Speaker 1: there is a number of ways someone could arrange a
- 1:29Speaker 1: meeting or speak with them. They could call him. He
- 1:32Speaker 1: had a cell phone, his house, his office, all other staffers,
- 1:35Speaker 1: his friends, his family. There was a number of ways
- 1:38Speaker 1: to get in touch with him, and a number of
- 1:40Speaker 1: ways to set meetings and visit with them. Question and
- 1:43Speaker 1: the reason I ask to go back to this Vanity
- 1:45Speaker 1: Fair article in December of twenty twenty. I'll represent to
- 1:49Speaker 1: you that it says, quote, because Clinton didn't carry a
- 1:52Speaker 1: cell phone or use email, anyone who wanted to speak
- 1:55Speaker 1: to Clinton had to go through Doug Band. Do you
- 1:57Speaker 1: disagree with that characterization? Answer? I do. I mean, again,
- 2:01Speaker 1: to the best of my recollection, he had his own
- 2:03Speaker 1: cell phone. I don't know at what point he got
- 2:06Speaker 1: it or I don't recall when he got his own
- 2:08Speaker 1: cell phone, but there, as I said, there's a number
- 2:11Speaker 1: of ways to get President Clinton to contact them, to
- 2:13Speaker 1: reach them, to be in touch to engage, to ask
- 2:16Speaker 1: them things all those communications. Question, is it fair to
- 2:20Speaker 1: say that part of your role with President Clinton was
- 2:23Speaker 1: to evaluate and assist in making a decision whether to
- 2:26Speaker 1: meet with someone. Answer? Well, ultimately, you know, the decision
- 2:31Speaker 1: is his whether he wants to meet with somebody or not.
- 2:33Speaker 1: My role in being a part of that process, along
- 2:36Speaker 1: with a variety of other folks, would be more accurate.
- 2:39Speaker 1: Yes question, And would you receive requests from external individuals
- 2:44Speaker 1: to meet with President Clinton? Answer? I, along with other
- 2:47Speaker 1: people did yes question, mister band. A few years after
- 2:51Speaker 1: mister Clinton leaves the White House, the Clinton Global Initiative
- 2:54Speaker 1: is formed. Is that right? Answer? Correct question? And what
- 2:58Speaker 1: is the Clinton Global Initiative? Answer? The Clinton Global Initiative, Well,
- 3:02Speaker 1: it's hard to explain. I mean, it's complicated, a large
- 3:05Speaker 1: philanthropic endeavor that now I don't know what its latest
- 3:09Speaker 1: iteration is, but at the time it was set up
- 3:11Speaker 1: sort of going back a little bit and trying to
- 3:13Speaker 1: answer a little bit more than what you're asking. But
- 3:16Speaker 1: President Clinton attended a lot of conferences around the world,
- 3:19Speaker 1: and a lot of those conferences people sat around and
- 3:22Speaker 1: talked and self importance and those kinds of things. Something
- 3:25Speaker 1: that I was very passionate about was believing that we
- 3:29Speaker 1: that we as a country and we as a world,
- 3:31Speaker 1: could really change the face of how people engage in
- 3:34Speaker 1: philanthropic activity, in civic service. And so I spent a
- 3:38Speaker 1: lot of time thinking and coming up with an idea
- 3:40Speaker 1: that would be about changing the way that philanthropy was
- 3:43Speaker 1: engaged upon around the world and certainly in this country,
- 3:47Speaker 1: and where everybody could pay it forward or give some
- 3:49Speaker 1: time to civic engagement or public service of some kind.
- 3:53Speaker 1: And so morphing that into an idea to create the
- 3:56Speaker 1: Clinton Global Initiative, which was a conference that was created
- 3:59Speaker 1: for people to come and provide concrete actions rather than
- 4:03Speaker 1: just sort of sitting around and talking. And so that
- 4:05Speaker 1: led to you know, commitments all over the world of
- 4:08Speaker 1: billions and billions of dollars impacting hundreds of millions of
- 4:11Speaker 1: people around the globe. Question and do you recall when
- 4:14Speaker 1: the Clinton Global Initiative was formed? Answer? It was in
- 4:18Speaker 1: the early two thousands where I had started thinking about this.
- 4:21Speaker 1: I believe the first one was launched in two thousand
- 4:23Speaker 1: and five. I mean, that was again a long time ago.
- 4:26Speaker 1: I'm not exactly sure when the first one was question,
- 4:29Speaker 1: and just for my benefit, what's the difference between the
- 4:32Speaker 1: Clinton Foundation and the Clinton Global Initiative. Answer, that's a
- 4:36Speaker 1: good question. The Clinton Global Initiative was its own separate entity,
- 4:40Speaker 1: which was about the conference and bringing together of people
- 4:43Speaker 1: to make concrete actions to do good around the world
- 4:46Speaker 1: and engage on things. The Clinton Foundation was you know,
- 4:49Speaker 1: presidents have presidential foundations upon leaving office, and his foundation
- 4:54Speaker 1: was created by him, as I said earlier, about going
- 4:57Speaker 1: on these humanitarian trips and missions and create initiatives and
- 5:01Speaker 1: lots of other things fell within that framework. Questions, So
- 5:05Speaker 1: I want to turn the statement to mister Epstein's lawyers
- 5:07Speaker 1: that have made in correspondents legal correspondence. So in two
- 5:11Speaker 1: thousand and seven, mister Epstein's lawyers claim that he was
- 5:14Speaker 1: quote part of the original group that conceived the Clinton
- 5:17Speaker 1: Global Initiative. Do you agree with that statement? Answer? No question.
- 5:21Speaker 1: And miss Maxwell told the Department of Justice last July
- 5:24Speaker 1: that she was quote very central to the startup of
- 5:27Speaker 1: the Clinton Global Initiative. Is that your recollection? Answer? I
- 5:31Speaker 1: have no recollection of her being involved whatsoever. Questions. So
- 5:35Speaker 1: generally speaking, you know, we spoke about your role with
- 5:38Speaker 1: President Clinton in particular. What was your role with the
- 5:41Speaker 1: Clinton Global Initiative Answer, well, you know, I conceive the idea.
- 5:45Speaker 1: As I said, I thought about this for a long
- 5:48Speaker 1: long time and really believed that there was an opportunity
- 5:51Speaker 1: and a void existed for creating a way for people
- 5:54Speaker 1: to engage civically and as I've said, give back and
- 5:57Speaker 1: pay a forward and engage in society. That vision of
- 6:00Speaker 1: mine translated all the way down to very young kids
- 6:04Speaker 1: when they would go to kindergarten, would start spending a
- 6:06Speaker 1: day or a month or a day a quarter giving
- 6:09Speaker 1: back in some form, whether that was clearing up a
- 6:11Speaker 1: beach or a park or whatever, whatever they could do.
- 6:14Speaker 1: And so the CGI was born out of that vision.
- 6:17Speaker 1: I recall writing a memo to the President laying out
- 6:20Speaker 1: my vision for what I thought this could be, and
- 6:22Speaker 1: him approving it. Moving forward, there was, you know, then
- 6:25Speaker 1: he hired someone who was a director, a CEO if
- 6:28Speaker 1: you will, of CGI and production staff. It was entirely
- 6:32Speaker 1: massive endeavor at a hotel with signage and events and people.
- 6:36Speaker 1: It was a huge conference. Question And were you a
- 6:39Speaker 1: paid employee of CGI? Answer? I don't believe that I was.
- 6:43Speaker 1: I don't remember specifically who paid me at the time,
- 6:45Speaker 1: I mean which entity paid me, because there was a
- 6:48Speaker 1: lot of different entities. But my job was in the
- 6:50Speaker 1: President's office on his staff, not on CGI staff or
- 6:53Speaker 1: foundation staff. Question and Hew did CGI operate generally? For example,
- 6:58Speaker 1: he did CGI find didn't engaged donors? Answer? There was
- 7:02Speaker 1: an entire part of CGI, as far as I recall
- 7:04Speaker 1: and know, that engaged in finding people and to make commitments.
- 7:08Speaker 1: End you know, someone that had solar panels that could
- 7:11Speaker 1: donate them to a village in Africa, or they needed
- 7:14Speaker 1: to be shipped, so you had to find someone that
- 7:15Speaker 1: was willing to donate the panels, someone that would ship
- 7:18Speaker 1: the panels, someone that would install the panels. So it
- 7:22Speaker 1: was a multi led effort by CGI's staff at the
- 7:25Speaker 1: time that did all those kinds of things. Question and
- 7:28Speaker 1: do you know how Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell became
- 7:31Speaker 1: engaged with CGI? Answer? I do not recall how they
- 7:35Speaker 1: became involved in CGI if they were. Question do you
- 7:38Speaker 1: recall having any conversation with either of them about CGI? Answer?
- 7:43Speaker 1: I don't recall having conversations with either about CGI. Question
- 7:48Speaker 1: and we'll get into the flights a bit later. But
- 7:50Speaker 1: there were several trips as you spoke about earlier, where
- 7:53Speaker 1: President Clinton flew on Epstein's plane to various places across
- 7:56Speaker 1: the world for humanitarian reasons. Was that through the Clinton Foundation? Answer?
- 8:01Speaker 1: I believe so when you say through the foundation, to
- 8:04Speaker 1: the best of my recollection, he was traveling to a
- 8:06Speaker 1: lot of trips where you know, they were complex. There
- 8:09Speaker 1: was a lot of different things going on during the trip. Speeches, meetings, coffees,
- 8:14Speaker 1: old friends, world leaders, humanitarian efforts. There were a lot
- 8:18Speaker 1: of things going on. So I don't want to characterize
- 8:21Speaker 1: it as just one thing, but for the most part, yes,
- 8:24Speaker 1: under the rubric of the Clinton Foundation. Question and shifting
- 8:28Speaker 1: gears a little bit, I know there's some ambiguity when
- 8:31Speaker 1: you first met Glenn Maxwell, But when did you first
- 8:34Speaker 1: meet Glenne Maxwell? Was it your understanding that she was
- 8:36Speaker 1: in a relationship with Jeffrey Epstein a romantic relationship? Answer
- 8:41Speaker 1: I don't recall having a view on that at all.
- 8:43Speaker 1: Question you didn't have a view on that or you
- 8:45Speaker 1: didn't know about it? Answer neither, I don't know. Question
- 8:49Speaker 1: did you ever get an understanding that Jeffrey Epstein and
- 8:51Speaker 1: Gleann Maxwell were in a romantic relationship? Answer not that
- 8:55Speaker 1: I recall question from redacted mister band. I'm going to
- 9:00Speaker 1: walk through some specific interactions between Clinton and Epstein and Maxwell,
- 9:05Speaker 1: but first I would like to just clarify something from
- 9:08Speaker 1: the previous hour. You said that President Clinton and Jeffrey
- 9:11Speaker 1: Epstein appeared to be friends. Is that correct? Answer? Yes, question,
- 9:15Speaker 1: but you also said that you were never present during
- 9:18Speaker 1: any conversation between President Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein. Answer. I
- 9:22Speaker 1: believe I said, I don't recall any conversations. Question, so,
- 9:27Speaker 1: what made you think that the two of them were friends? Answer?
- 9:31Speaker 1: That's a good question by virtue of the time they
- 9:33Speaker 1: spent together. That was just my perception that I have
- 9:36Speaker 1: today that I recall thinking that they were friends. I
- 9:40Speaker 1: don't know what the specifics of that are, but I
- 9:42Speaker 1: just remember that question. Is it true that most of
- 9:46Speaker 1: the time they spent together though? Was these humanitarian trips
- 9:50Speaker 1: or other business related meetings. Answer? I don't know. I
- 9:53Speaker 1: think it's probably a better question for him. I don't
- 9:56Speaker 1: think so. I think they spent time together. I think
- 9:59Speaker 1: that was the major of the time they spent together. Question.
- 10:03Speaker 1: Thank you. I would like to mark as minority Exhibit A.
- 10:07Speaker 1: This is an email from Maxwell to WJC email that
- 10:10Speaker 1: we discussed in the previous hour. It's dated February sixth,
- 10:13Speaker 1: two thousand and two. I'll give you a moment to
- 10:15Speaker 1: read through that. And I believe in the Majority's hour
- 10:19Speaker 1: they established that WJC email was you at the time?
- 10:22Speaker 1: Is that correct? Answer? As far as I can recall, Yes.
- 10:26Speaker 1: Question do you remember receiving this email from Glenn Maxwell? Answer?
- 10:30Speaker 1: I do not. Question do you recall a party in
- 10:33Speaker 1: Miami that she's referring to? Answer I don't recall a
- 10:36Speaker 1: party in Miami that she's referring to. Question, So you
- 10:39Speaker 1: never went to a party in Miami with Glenn Maxwell? Answer?
- 10:43Speaker 1: I didn't say that I never went to the party.
- 10:45Speaker 1: I just said I don't recall, for dak did did
- 10:47Speaker 1: go to a party in Miami with Glenn Maxwell? And
- 10:50Speaker 1: as I said, I don't recall going to a party
- 10:53Speaker 1: in Miami. It doesn't mean I didn't go. It doesn't
- 10:57Speaker 1: mean I did go. I just don't remember it. No
- 11:00Speaker 1: recollection of going to a party. What about President Clinton?
- 11:03Speaker 1: Do you ever recall him going to a party in
- 11:04Speaker 1: Miami with Glenn Maxwell? Answer? I do not question. Okay,
- 11:11Speaker 1: And then later in the email, she talks about Epstein.
- 11:13Speaker 1: She says, Jaye coming to pick us up on the plane.
- 11:16Speaker 1: Do you recall anything about this being picked up on
- 11:18Speaker 1: a plane by in Miami by Epstein? Answer? I do
- 11:21Speaker 1: not recall that. No. All right, folks, we're gonna wrap
- 11:23Speaker 1: up right here, and in the next episode dealing with
- 11:26Speaker 1: the topic, we're gonna pick up where we left off.
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