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Elon Musk's SpaceX Using Starship to Transport Military Troops? · Elon Musk Podcast

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From the very, very beginning of SpaceX.
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Elon Musk has stated that he wants to send something to Mars
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and SpaceX is a space exploration company.
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But SpaceX has been working with the Department of Defense for
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numerous years. Launching satellites, spy
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satellites, as well for the Department of Defense and other
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organizations in the US government.
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Now, Ilan has said that the Starship program is going to be
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the turning point of the company where they'll be able to send
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humans to Mars, people back to the Moon.
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The hls program but also point-to-point transportation
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for people around the world so you can fly from New York all
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the way to Tokyo in about an hour.
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You go into space and come back, that's really fast Ilana.
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See that numerous times that this is what he wants Starship
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to be in the future. Now, speaking of the Department
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of Defense Ilan has also said that there could be a
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point-to-point transfer of people and cargo of the Starship
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from one point to another Point, while there's something
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happening on the ground. Now, Our ship also has the
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largest amount of payload area of any rocket ever.
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So the Department of Defense is obviously looking at Starship as
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a future for transportation on earth.
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Now, just recently, there was a tweet from the Air Force
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research lab, the afrl. I want to show you this tweet
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because I think this is important for the future of
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Starship and SpaceX and let me let me talk about this for a
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second. A SpaceX needs government
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contracts without government. Contracts.
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They need to rely on private funding and they just got
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another, I think with 750 million injection of cash into
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the business. So they're doing okay with
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private investment right and all that money is going for Starship
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development and also for starlink satellite development,
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they need to deploy starlink V2 as soon as possible so they can
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start making money with Starling so they can start funding the
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machine that makes Starships, right?
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So that being said, millions of people Are going to sign up for
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starlink. All of those people are going to
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pay a subscription price every single month for starlink and
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then that money is going to get pushed together into the
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starship program. Build the next phase of human
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space, flight and Space X is going to be at the Forefront of
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all of it and then bringing all that money, right?
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But they need some money from other places other than star
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link to continue doing this, in the Department of Defense, has
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Limitless pockets and they have ungodly amounts of money.
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They have just All the money you'll ever ask for the
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Department of Defense, the Air Force research lab posted.
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This tweet 2023 is here and that means a new year of research
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development and delivery of solutions for the US Air Force,
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science and technology for 2030 Mission, okay?
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So they're looking at the 2030 timeframe, learn more about
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what's been done and what's to come now, and they have a link
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to one of their, one of the articles on there.
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But look at this picture, this is the important part.
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This picture. Right here, right here.
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This is a this is a Starship. Check this out.
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A Starship launching from the US.
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The booster returning, as you can see, from right here.
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Starship launching booster returning but the star ship
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launches across the ocean to someplace else, right?
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And then lands their does its thing for the Department of
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Defense and they launch another one back and forth and back and
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forth. So this could be the future of
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Starship for the Department of Defense and numerous times like
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I said before, you Ilan has stated that are we wanted to
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send 100 people were on the earth like Within an hour or
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two, you could go anywhere. If you want to go to space real
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quick on a Starship. That's cool.
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But also if you want to go to space, that's cool to where we
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can send you to Mars. This thing is huge and we can
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fit 100 people in it on Earth, but also maybe 20 or 30 people
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at the most going to Mars. Because it's got to be Cargo in
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that thing to. That's got to be, you know, food
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and water, and things to basically keep you alive.
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When you go to Mars, maybe a Rover of some sort, any sort of
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cargo to get you to Mars and to keep you alive.
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So, doing that with the Starship is important for SpaceX, but
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also the war tech is important for SpaceX everything.
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For the Department of Defense, billions and billions of dollars
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will be pumped into space X in the future and we think of old
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space and I wanted to know what you think about this.
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This is a I think this is an important topic that we need to
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talk old space. These giant key antic, gigantic
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companies that were at the Forefront of space exploration
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when the Apollo programs were happening, Boeing Rocketdyne,
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Etc. All the companies, write all
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those old companies, Ula. The conglomeration of all of
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them. They're still around, right?
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But there are huge companies and they're bloated compared to what
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they used to be. They used to have skunkworks,
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they used to do really crazy stuff on the deserts and like
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make rockets that used to fly and hover and you know, people
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were flying them around, you know, there's Apollo Astronauts
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astronauts that were in those test programs.
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And those are things that SpaceX is, it's kind of what's
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happening right now with SpaceX around the desert in the middle
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of nowhere and Texas build in something.
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Really cool the Starship and also they're pushing things
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forward. You know, the first people
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didn't go to the Moon because people weren't daring, people
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were trying new stuff because they were Innovative and they
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were told to, by the government, they're like, hey, we're going
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to give all this money but we need these things done by this
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time. Right, so not exactly what
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SpaceX is doing right now. But SpaceX sees the writing on
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the wall. They have unlimited money coming
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their way. If they can figure out this
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problem, you know, if they could figure out how to launch a
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Starship and get the Starship from point, A to point B on
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Earth, without any damage to the Starship or the people on board
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or the cargo on board, they're gonna start raking in the cash.
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They're going to be printing money left to right and they're
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going to just be one of those profitable companies.
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He's if not the most profitable company in in the world, I think
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I think SpaceX will be one of the most profitable companies in
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the world in the near future within the next 10 to 20 years.
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If they can figure out Starship. Now the Department of Defense
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needs Starship. They need something like
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Starship. They want to send huge amounts
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of cargo all over the planet really quickly.
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You can't do that right now because it takes hours possibly
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a day or two to get anywhere. The world with any sort of
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significant amount of cargo, we have to fly it there in a jet,
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which takes a long time. But if you could get there in an
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hour, if you could just say, if you have 100 people 100 troops
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and you want to send them across the across the world, you get
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them there in an hour as opposed to even say five hours how much
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more of an advantage to you have.
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If you have a Starship in those people can do those highly
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trained Specialists get from point A to point B in an hour.
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As opposed to spending, like half a day in a enough on a
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flight, or even a day on a flight.
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That's ridiculous. So, the department offense super
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interested in Space X. Now, let's just take a look back
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at the war tech. This is, this is important
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because I wanted, I want to know what you think about this.
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Do you think it's important for SpaceX to focus on space
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exploration or do you think they need to spend time worrying
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about the Department of Defense, or do you think they can do
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both? Let me know in the Comets
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because I think that's an important conversation that we
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should all sort of have together and I'll chime in there too.
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But I'm going to give you my opinion right now because I
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think this can start the conversation.
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I think they need to do both space.
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Exploration is much as I love it and I think it's the most
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fantastic thing. It's the it's the most magical
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thing that I can think of space exploration and I don't know how
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to express how I feel about. I just get so happy when I think
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about it. but, Billions of dollars.
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We want the space exploration. All right, we want to send
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things to Mars. We want to send Rovers.
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We want to send people to Mars, want to send things to Saturn.
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We want to send things at all over the solar system and then
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beyond. But how do you do that?
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You don't have enough money to do that and you just have
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starlink those people will continue printing money for you
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of course but you have to keep the satellites in orbit to keep
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churning out satellites that costs money.
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There's operational cost to it. With the Department of Defense,
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you're going to do save you do like half the work but you get
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paid. Billions of dollars.
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That's pretty nice. You just send a Starship there
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and back. It's pretty cost-effective the
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return on investment makes a lot of sense.
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Ethically, it's up to the company.
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It's up to the people that are involved with the company.
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I have no say in that. So I can't really, I can't
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really talk about it as far as like what I, what I think,
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because I'm not the company. So, I think it's a necessary
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evil that they have to do. I think they have to do Some
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Department Department of Defense stuff there been working with
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NASA for a long time too so they they have the NASA money.
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Could they stay a small and Nimble company for a long time
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and keep progressing, or do they need this injunction like in
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injection? Sorry of cash flow from
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something like the Department of Defense in the next five to ten
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years so they can develop Starship faster.
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I wanna see a Starship fly. Not about you.
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I want to see a Starship fly. I would see it fly as soon as.
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All I want to see a hundred of these things fly in the next 10
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years. I think it'd be amazing.
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I think we with the hls program and also everything they're
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doing with Starship on the side you know, not just hls.
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I know they're focusing on hls right now but if they can work
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on other things too while doing the hls program, when Shotwell
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is in charge of that, the whole Boca Chica Starship facility.
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Now, so Guin, you're doing a great job and I think you're
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Apparently, according to the Air Force were Tech brings together
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warfighters, technologists planners and acquisition
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Personnel to collectively, develop operational, Concepts
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motivated by Future, Force design, enabled by high payoff
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Science and Technology. Now, I'm not a, I'm not in the
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military at all. Never happen.
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My dad was my grandpa was a, my whole family.
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You know, they've been in the Army and Navy and Air Force and
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everything. Not the Marines, I have friends
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in the Marines but not not me. I'm not one of those people, so
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How does it work? The process begins with a demand
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signal for those building. Future Force designs through
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cross-functional collaborative. Forums operational.
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Challenges emerge that are informed by current projected
13:38
targets, Trends and needs. So if there are any sort of
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things in the future that they think are going to be targets,
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going to be something that they they need to address.
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How do they do that? How do they how do they figure
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it out? You know, how do they figure out
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how to stop those threats from happening touch and there's a
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Starship. So War tech efforts Vanguard
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programme Sky, Borg, and TS3 and golden horde were pre-war Tech
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the word Tech process, helps to evolve the current vanguard's
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ensure Enterprise a commitment in in and identify clear.
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Transition Pathways work has produced, the Vanguard rocket, a
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program, rocket cargo and vent guard.
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Prospect such as Resolute Centre and area affects demo rocket
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cargo Determine the viability usability of use.
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Our utility of using a large commercial rockets.
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That SpaceX is Starship for Department of Defense Global
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Logistics. So not only the people not only
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people I was talking about earlier but the stuff, the cargo
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the ammo, the everything you're going to need the laptops, the
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everything food supply, all the supplies.
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Starship Resolute Century. Real-time multi-domain
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battlespace awareness and highly congested environments, we're
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going to worry about the rocket car go.
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Do they need this? That's the that's the question.
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We need to answer in the comments.
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Do you think SpaceX should focus on The Department of Defense or
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should they focus on space? Exploration, space, exploration
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Technologies, kind of their name and their name.
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So I don't know, I'm kind of torn with this and I saw this
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article and I was like, oh, I saw this sweet.
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And I was like, oh, I don't know.
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I got to think about this one. So I think we should just take a
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ticket. Take a second and think about
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it, because as cool as the stuff that they do, the Falcon eyes,
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Amazing, everything. They've done with the Falcon 9
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is game-changing, 100% game-changing, change the whole
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industry but the next phase is a Starship which is absolutely
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intense. Now here, take a look at SpaceX
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real quick. This is a Starship page on
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SpaceX is website, just goes through.
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Basic information about the Starship, the height of 20
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meters. 394 ft. I always say 400 feet because
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it's close diameter of 30 feet. Nine meters payload to Elio.
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Hunter place. Tons or you know we go down or
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sorry and then if you skip to the next one the star ship
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itself 50 meters in height 164 feet 30 meters around their ship
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is fully reusable spacecraft second stage and yeah super
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heavy which is the booster but those things come together and
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they make something that SpaceX feels is going to be for
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interplanetary transport, right? So the Starship uses we don't
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see the Department of Defense on Their website.
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Right. So like interplanetary
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transport, interplanetary transport building cities on
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Mars will require will require affordable delivery of
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significant quantities of cargo and people.
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So let's talk about earlier, fully reusable Starship system,
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use in space, propellant, transfer to achieve this in
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carry people on long-duration, interplanetary flights.
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So people, I think there's probably going to be 12 people
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on the first flight, some like that at the most Satellites.
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Like I was saying before largest cargo ever.
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You can put a humble in this thing.
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It's no big deal, not a big deal, but the whole Hubble in
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there, is not a big deal, put a bus, you know, you can put a
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school bus in there, not a big deal.
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Put any sort of satellites, low earth orbit, not a big deal.
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Some things past the moon, not a big deal, some things to Mars,
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not a big deal, whatever you want to send you to send it,
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there's no constraints anymore, you know, like the fairings of
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the Falcon 9, you know, relatively small compared to
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this. So also Space Station.
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Set people up to the space station, sent cargo up to the
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space station. Could you imagine just parking a
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Starship? At the space station, just tons
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of cargo for a whole year Bellamy is one launch.
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No need to send, you know, tend launches a year to send cargo
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up. You just said once you get it
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good for the year. So one Starship to space station
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Moon missions. The hls program.
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So SpaceX is working with NASA to send the first people or the
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next people back to the surface of the Moon since the Apollo
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program over 50 years ago, And that's insanely cool in, it'll
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be Artemis three and they're working on that right now down
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in Boca, Chica, Texas and interplanetary transport, and
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then satellites wait a second space station Moon missions.
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Hmm, Remember those, we just talked about the sailor second,
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couple seconds ago, this military transport stuff.
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They didn't say anything about that other website, Interesting.
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Interesting, how they wouldn't put that you know helping
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helping keep people safe would be one of those things that
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Starship is available to do. I thought it was kind of a weird
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thing that mean it's also a public facing website.
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So I can't you can't kid yourself about what they're
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doing here. They want it to be very
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positive, you know, they don't want to take any slack from
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anybody you know, if they don't need to.
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So all those things are kind of closed, door deals, you know,
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anything is happening in the behind closed doors.
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Are they making deals with the Department of Defense that
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making deals with NASA, which are all public of course, but
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the Department of Defense stuff it's as if it's secret, it's
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secret can't talk about it, but would be nice to have a little
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bit of clarity, other website here.
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I think there's probably some someplace but I couldn't find
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it. I was looking around everywhere.
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There's a user's guide, of course for the Starship sorry
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should be user guide and it has all of the information about
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payload volume. Starships, 8 meter diameter
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payload Dynamic envelope shown in figure for the large,
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Deployable envelope. Allows for the design of Novel
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payload so flips, open like that.
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Then you shoot the satellite out.
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Very cool, very minimal, very minimal, way to deploy a
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satellite to. So it's not jettison out in like
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this numerous Parts. Just said light in there.
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Flip open the top satellite flies out, shut the top again.
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It's genius, genius. Absolutely genius payload
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manifesting environments and it goes through some of the, some
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of the specific screw configuration found was founded
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with the goal of making life multiplanetary.
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And they show a picture of the crew configuration where they're
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landing on the moon, some moon base and over here cargo
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configuration additional capabilities.
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Fully reusable stars and Supernova systems are expected
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to allow for space based activities.
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They're not been possible since the retirement of the Space
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Shuttle and the space transportation system.
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I've never been possible before the fully reusable, Starship
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satellites can be captured and repaired in orbit.
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I've been hearing rumors recently just within the last
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couple days, that the really focusing on SpaceX is ability to
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use a Starship to capture satellites in space junk, and
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either boost it into a better orbit or get rid of it, like,
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bring it back so it or, you know, send it Down.
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So it'll deorbit and burn up on its way back in where they can
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capture and repair in orbit. So Hubble Space Telescope would
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be kind of a cool example for that if the Starship could
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somehow dock with that. Have some astronauts onboard
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similar to what the shuttle did? That would be pretty cool.
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But I've been hearing that, they're they're really thinking
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hard about that right now. And there's, there's talk behind
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the scenes that they're working on that fully.
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Reusable, Starship satellites can be captured and repaired in
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orbit, return to Earth and transfer it. transfer to a new
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operational orbit and then there's, you know, there's a
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sales link so you can buy this whatever service you're going to
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buy, but That's the, that's the major question.
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What are they going to use? The Starship for mostly in?
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Once they have C10 Starships, what if they built 10 Starships?
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Will they use most of them for space exploration or they will?
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They use? Most of them for Department of
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Defense stuff. We're gonna have to find out in
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the future because right now, it looks like SpaceX is, of course,
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like they need the money and he company wants to make money, so
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they got to go I they're going to go with a hybrid of both and
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they kind of have to like all space exploration companies, do
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Ula, Boeing all of them. There's some sort of Department
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of Defense. With them and SpaceX already has
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that. So they already have those
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working relationships and Starship will be used for that
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is as well, you know, in the future according to, according
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to the Air Force. So that's about it for today.
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