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The Art Of Revenge With MICHAEL LOMBARDI From THE RETALIATORS · HEAVY Music Interviews

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Well, Hey, what's up everyone. I'm Michael Lombardi and I'm here to
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speak about the crazy, twisted roller coaster of a ride horror film that I
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hope you check out. It's called The Retaliators. Thank you Chris so much
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for having me pleasure, Michael, thanks for joining us today. Happy to
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be here, man. So let's just say we're here today to talk about
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releasing The Retaliators by a video on demand on Apple TV and Google TV in
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Australia on October eighteenth, which means a whole new audience they're about to have
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the pants skate often. Mate, what warning label would you put there for
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first time viewers of the movie. Oh, man, there's a few warning
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labels, like it's not about bad words, it's not about nudity, it's
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just about you know. I think this movie is really twisted and it gets
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dark, but then it also doesn't take itself too seriously at times. Right,
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But you know, I guess I would hope that there's truth in the
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film and it poses a question as wild as the film gets, and a
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topic matter that will make you think a little little bit and maybe that you
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can actually like go out for a drink afterward and talk about a little bit
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on top of just hopefully being entertained. You know, the movie first came
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out back on August thirty of twenty twenty one, so that was more than
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two years ago, which is a long time for it to actually get to
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the Apple TV and the Google platforms. It's going to say something about the
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quality of the film that has taken two years to get from the theater to
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the small straining now in normally these days it's six months turn around. Yeah,
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dude. It also took like freaking three years to shoot because it was
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through COVID. Yeah, shooting in a long journey with this movie. But
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I'll tell you what you see when you see twenty one. That's when it
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had its first festival premiere, and that was at Frightens in the UK,
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and then it premiered a few months after that at Screenfest in LA and those
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are two of arguably the top horror festivals in the world, so it was
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really special. And then it takes some time after that to get distribution.
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We came out a limited theatrical release and then we came out on vod in
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the States and then here we are. So it's a little tricky, and
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I've learned so much along this journey, you know, of producing and directing
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and being on the other side of the camera as well, and that's one
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of the things the whole distribution cycle on how that works. So it's crazy
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because, like you know, it shows that as the release date, but
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that was like at the beginning of the festival run. We did festivals year,
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then we hit vod in America and now we're global. So yeah,
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that's kind of the way it went, I say, for that is not
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familiar with the Routally, it's essentially a horror story on the past to John
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Bishop yourself, his life's rocked by the brutal murder of his daughter. But
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can you elaborate a bit more like put the whole film in perspective? Yeah,
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I mean, I think at the end of the day, the movie
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poses a question like what would you do if you had a minute alone with
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the person who hurt your loved one? You know? So bottom line is
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is like it happens in this case to a small town guy beloved by his
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community, a man of the cloth, someone who you'd never expect to have,
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you know, that that sort of retaliation, that that within him,
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But I think we all do as human beings, you know, And I
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think that's the that's the interesting thing. You put a guy like that in
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those circumstances, and what can happen? You know? And he goes on
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a hell of a journey from the beginning to the end. I think he
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completely transforms, and there's a bunch of mayhem and craziness on the way to
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that. But I think what's interesting about it is, you know, you
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can you can say, hey, if someone you know hurt your child or
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you know, your niece or your nephew, and you had that minute alone
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with him, can you can you take revenge on that person? And you
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know, I think it's easy to want to say yes, you know,
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if they did something really brutal to you. But then I think there's the
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side of if you're sitting in a room across from another human being, you
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know, could you really you know, draw blood on that person or hurt
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that person? You know? And I think it goes there, you know,
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and it touches upon So it's a sensitive subject matter. Actually, Even
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though again this movie hopefully is entertaining kind of twisted, there is that underlying
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message that hopefully allows you to put yourself in that situation, you know.
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I, Like you said, there's so many people out there, like the
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Macho and the Provider, and they're always like, give me three minutes a
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line with that guy and I'll kill in. But the way the movie pans
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out like it, it really does ask that question, and then it makes
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you makes you question yourself whether you would be able to go through with it
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or a lot. But after so much time that you're sitting with it,
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bro like, do you think you'd be able to do if it had like
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you in person? Uh? You know? I I so, I have
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two boys, so it certainly helps if you have you know, a child,
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yeah, and you know it also, but again, even if you
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don't, I mean, people can relate to that with their freaking pets,
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right or or or a niece or a nephew. So you know, I've
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been asked this before, and it was the first run of the film,
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which was a while ago. I haven't even talked about the movie a time
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recently, which why this is so beautiful too to have a different perspective on
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it. You know, man, it's interesting because life is tricky, right,
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and life is tough we're all dealing with a lot at all times.
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So I think at certain times in my life I can answer that question and
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say, yes, this is crazy. I'm being pretty honest here and then
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because it's a crazy answer, not crazy that I'm being honest, but you
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know, I think the answer could be brutal. But I think, you
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know, depending on where you're at in your life, and you know,
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again, not with your frustrations or your struggles, but your happiness. You're
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ups, you're downs, you could be you know, when you're down and
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certain things happened to you, you might really be in a situation where you're
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like, you know, I don't like people. Maybe so if someone hurt
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my kid, yeah I could. I could. I want to answer yes,
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I would be well to do that, you know, at this time,
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But there are other times where I was like, I don't know,
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man, But for me, yeah, I think I could. You know,
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it's weird character a lot of the way you put your glasses on when
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you say yeah, I could, it's like, even, look a lot
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of this I could. That's pretty funny. I didn't even mean that,
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you know, I could tell you this that the story you know was written
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by the Gear brothers, who are great friends of mine, and you know,
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it's how this all came about. It is kind of twisted. I
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used to write music with them. I had a record deal back in my
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two thousand and nine ten eleven with MySpace Records. I don't know if you
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remember that label. They were They're pretty pretty old. But so I'm an
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East Coast guy in America. I live in New York, but I used
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to go out to La often and my music manager was like, you have
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to go write music with these guys. They're incredible. And it was Darren
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Gear. Our tastes were so aligned musically and creatively. I hadn't spoken to
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him in a long time from when we used to write music, and I
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reconnected with him because I was doing a charity event and a song we wrote
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when Heaven and Hell Collide. It was called it was in drop D already
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and it had to be. I wasn't with my band. I was going
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to be performing this song. So I called Darren after you know, maybe
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three or four years, five years, I hadn't spoken with him. He
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has a kids, his four kids, actually, so you know, we're
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busy with life, and I was like, hey, Darren Man, I'm
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how worrying about I'm going to play this song when Heaven and Hell colide.
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Dude, I remember that when we wrote it on what do you think it
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will? It be too muddy if I try to you know this band and
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not my band, And what have you been up to? And he's like,
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oh, my brother and I have been writing screenplays. And I said
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send him to me and it was the Retaliators and read it and within a
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couple of days, I was on a plane out to LA and I'm like,
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man, we got to make this thing. That's how it happened.
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And I think you know the aspect of Better Noise Music being behind it,
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of course, and Alan Kovak, who is a friend of mine and an
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incredible guy. Obviously Better Noise has so many amazing bands, Motley kruefe I,
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Finger Death Punch, Proper Roach, Eisneine Kills managing and the label for
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some of these acts, and the list goes on and on, and Alan
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get this serendipitous and crazy. Alan attended that charity event that I sung the
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song at in Friends and he was like, I was on a television show
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called Rescue Me for a long time and some other stuff as an actor was
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about New York City Firefighters. I did one hundred episodes of that show.
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That was like my big break into the business. But anyway, he was
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like, you know, we got to do something together someday, and I'm
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like, oh my god, I would love to. And then a few
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weeks after I brought him The Retaliators and I was like, I think this
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movie would be a beautiful fit because it leans into the horror, but that
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which leans into the heavy metal side of things. You know, I think
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that in this script has that fun wink at the eighties and remember all those
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great movies with awesome soundtracks, you know, The Crow and on. And
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I'm like, and Alan's like, let's go, let's do it. So
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well it was beautiful, is we Uh? He was my guy behind me
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every step of the way on this thing. Awesome story. Yeah. And
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you know the other part of that is being able to have like five Finger
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Death Punch and Tommy Lee and Jacoby Shaddocks and but you know, it was
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crazy because I didn't. I wanted it to be a film first, you
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know, with a story and a real movie and not you know, really
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and be very no gratuitous and which manner all these incredible musicians were put in
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the film, like so I and I think this happened where you have Jacoby
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Shaddocks, who's so good in the movie, he's the bad guy, so
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we work together a lot. What are your point of views, your objectives,
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what's your perspective on the other character? His emotional preparation before he got
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the set, and all these guys were way in man But of course they're
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storytellers anyway, right, but they're just on stage telling the story with their
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lyrics and their songs. But to have it in here and do the work
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and behind their eyes and just you know, put their two feet on the
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ground and be truthful was very beautiful to see. So for me, I
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thought they all did such an incredible job that you might just think that was
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an actor and then go, no way, that dude's the lead singer of
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popa Roach afterward, you know, and the way in which they were cast.
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So you know, for me, I'm proud in the sense that the
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movie has all these beautiful little golden nuggets and Easter eggs and this incredible these
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bands that not only are on the soundtrack, but they're in the movie.
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But they're also really great in their roles and they bring them a lot to
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it. You know, that's definitely right. You actually you played the role
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of John. The movie's by the serious nights of the subject meta was it
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still a good experience for it. It was amazing. I got to produce
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this film and I and I directed some as well, and I felt,
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you know, getting on the other side of the camera. You know,
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the thing I learned was it's it's just unbelievable how much work it is to
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make a film and what you're up against. I mean, I knew that
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anyway, but as a direct as an actor, you jump on set and
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you do your thing. But when you're producing and you're dealing with COVID and
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all the things that go wrong and egos and to get your vision of the
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Skier Brothers script that I loved so much, and you know, me and
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Darren, he was like my guy. We just worked so closely together,
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you know. I was on the phone with them all the time creatively.
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When I'm on sets, I'm in Vegas, La, Connecticut, all over
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the place and doing this movie because of the bands were in different spots,
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you know, and our locations called for different spots. So anyway, it's
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a heavy lift. Man, it's hard, you know. And look,
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it's not like I'm digging ditches, So I get I am. I love
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what I do and I'm so lucky. But to make a movie that you
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believe in, that you could be proud of, that actually gets from the
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page to the screen is not easy. So and look, the film's not
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for everybody, right, it's a it's a niche movie, you know.
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But I don't really think you want to go out trying to make a movie
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that everybody's gonna love. Anyway, you know, you make the movie that
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you believe in, and you try to make it the best you can.
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And like I said, get those the little winks at the eighties. The
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way it doesn't take itself too seriously some of the you know, the way
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the story is the slow burn and then it blows up into this crazy you
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know ending. I think it's all just a challenge. And yeah, being
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the lead in it is tricky too, mainly like dude having to deal with
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all that fake blood and so sticky. Man, it's like syrup and it's
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in the worst fight. It's like, I hate anything I guess meet up
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as an actor, any of that stuff I hate. So you get back
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to the hotel room, take these long showers, and then have to deal
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with all the fires, put them all out for the next day. Oh
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you lost this location. Oh this actor is this? You know? So
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that that was all crazy? You know and shot the movie Like it's your
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transition from just being like a religious man at the start to I won't get
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too much way, but to what you do towards the end. It's it's
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really amazing to see it. Like I've sort of I'll be brought up in
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a world that isn't too disimilar to what you did. We'll put it that
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way. But what shouldn't your transformation from being the nice guy too? That
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Like the stages you go through to get there, it's so realistic, bro,
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Like you do a really good job with it, But what sorts of
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things did you have to do to put yourself in that mindset to go from
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there to there? Like it's it's it's not an easy thing to do with
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out without really killing someone first. I got to hear some of your story.
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Damn, you could make two or three movies out of my life,
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bro, trust me. That's amazing. I got to hear that. Wow,
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that's awesome. Yeah, I think or is it awesome? It is?
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Now put it on my thirteenth birthday. I had two people stabbed in
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the guy. So two people shot and one guy stabbed to death. That
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was my thirteenth birthday. Way like you saw that. Yeah, he got
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stabbed once in the guy, once in the lung, and once in the
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heart. So they got him three times and they got him in the right
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places for what he was recovering heroin addict And we were at a party and
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there's a bit of a fight breakout and then this guy insteader and he poured
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out his gun started shooting them and got first guy in the stomach and he
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went down. Then his mate rushed him with a knife to stop it.
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She shot him twice. One of them just skipped his thigh, the other
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one hit his bite keys in his other pocket and deflected and then finish it
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off. But yeah, they found a full magazine in his magazine clip in
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his back pocket, so he was ready to ready to go out iron Oh
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my god, man. Yea asy movie script right there, bro, I've
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sort of when the transition you went through through it. I've seen quite a
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bit. Yeah, it was just it was really fucking really cool to what
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you do it bro Like, it was believable to someone who's seen it.
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Thank you so much. You know, I did a lot of research on
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that kind of trying to feel that way, and I told you having having
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young kids definitely helps a lot, you know, and you think about you
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have to put yourself in that horrible headspace. Yeah, there you go.
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So you know, I think that makes it easier in terms of trying to
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go. It's not easy to go to that place, but if you get
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use your imagination and you think about that and how much our children mean to
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us. But again, if you if you don't have a kid, you
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can still go there with a niece or nephew or anything you love. But
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you know what was interesting, man, is I watched this, uh this
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this YouTube video just earlier early on, just in playing with the idea.
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It's one aspect, there were many because you try to build from every angle
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to make it truthful. You put it all in you and then you let
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it go, like you don't want to like throw it up on screen and
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be too You just have to try to get it in you and then like
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I said, just put your feet on the ground and be there. But
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anyway, this guy was in court the surreal life and he literally looked like
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if you were to cast a characterture of like a math teacher, right,
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like I mean, the skinny sort of like guy. And he's there and
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he had like, uh, you know, the glasses and he was just
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very skinny looking guy, not intimidating at all, okay, and he was
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he had a moment. The police, the court police were on each side
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of him, and they brought him up and he had a moment with his
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daughter, with his son's killer, and he got to tell him how and
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he went up to him and all of a sudden, he just dove and
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he and he had a pencil and he started screaming in this howl that he
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let out from within this animalistic leg like it was so it was it was
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scary, right, it came from the depths of his soul. Didn't even
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sound human. It wasn't scary, like ah, it was like and he
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dove at the guy and that you know that they had to pull him back.
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And it was that was my first sort of toe in the water of
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like whoa Seeing that animalistic caveman mentality of going after the guy who harmed his
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son was my first, as I said, step into like this role and
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what that meant to him and that sound that he made when he went after
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him, you know, and he didn't care. He was in court right
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what happened to him? So yeah, that that was that was something that
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would have been. It was a couple of years ago, now more than
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a couple of years ago. Do you did that, brother? Like,
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do you have any any lingering memories of that experience? Like it's sort of
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it's not the sort of thing you just brush off straight away and go all
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right, lies back to ol again now, you know, like even though
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you were just playing a role, you still get memories of it being that
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person. Yeah, it's a good question. You know you do and what
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you do though, was like not there are things that I like think about
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that happened, and then I compare them to the experience. So maybe that
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is still inside of me, you know what I mean, Like, because
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everything you do in life is part of who you are, So it's just
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interesting. You just learn every day. And I learned from that and then
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I realized the things I learned in that how I apply to certain situations now.
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So it's not like, you know, I've been in any situations like
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that or had to deal with that kind of emotion, But I still think
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about it often. Yes, right, because it's inside of you, right,
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you know. It's a crazy The writers of this film, something happened
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to them, you know, in real life that inspired them to write this
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movie. The movie was sort of like therapy for them. So even though
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the story of the film is different than the thing that happened in their life,
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the concept of what would you do if you had a minute alone applied
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to something that really happened, which they openly talk about. The story is
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crazy and it's so. The thing that's crazy is there's so much truth built
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into the words even though it's this entertaining, fun, twisted film. Because
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it's truthful, it should hit you in the right spots, hopefully, if
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we did it right. You know, I watched your interview where you describe
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the situation that inspired the movie, and it is harrowing. Harrowing if you
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want, we could go there, but it's up to you. Like I
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said, it's openly discussed. Yeah, you have discussed it. Before Now,
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I encourage anyone listening to this to go back and watch some of Michael's
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previous interviews because I watched a few of them, and you feel a little
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bit more in every interviewer that it's gone through them all made It puts the
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whole pieces together a little better. Yeah, it's crazy, right, and
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again you know their family is very open with that story, but it's really
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it would that's when you'd say to yourself in real life, these guys had
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to go, man, we just had a minute alone with this guy,
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you know, and then and then that it struck them, and then they
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because they're so creative, they put it into their writing the concept. But
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it's wild, Well, it is love. The other reason, of course,
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as we've alluded to before that we're talking about Retaliator is one which elevates
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the movie to one of the best horror movie soundtracks of all time. It
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is a theme of where heavy metal and horror combine. My it's honestly the
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best movie soundtracks in Judgment NIGHTE in ninety ninety three. Other all right,
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that's sick. You know why Dennis Leary's in that, and it's a good
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movie and the soundtrack is great, dude, It's awesome. And uh,
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you know, I was on a show with Dennis Leary for a long time.
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Oh wow that Yeah, it was called Rescue Me. It was about
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New York City firefighters. I did a hundred episodes of the show, and
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he was like the main guy and it was like his firehouse, and I
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was one of the guys, you know, in his crew. So we
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all had our own stories lines. I was a series regular, and it
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blah blah blah. But anyway, what I'm getting at is that Dennis,
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I didn't realize how much I learned from the guy, actually because I was
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pretty young when I started on that TV show and he's a producer and you
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know, he writes. So during that experience with him of like seven or
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eight years by the side in that TV show, I hear he is starring
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in the show but also the creator of it and the producer. I was
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able to put myself in his shoes in this process when I'm producing, directing,
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and starring in this and just how much goes into it. It's a
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labor of love, you know. And it's funny how you know what everybody
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like, what the crew member is, what actors a pain in the ass.
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Who's this you know? Like what I was looking at is like who
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gave an attitude to this person? You know everything that's going on, and
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you know who your team is and who's really strong and who's who you want
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to work with. Again, it's a crazy uh, it's a crazy trip.
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But yeah, judgment Nate, the soundtrack was sick and I mentioned the
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crow earlier. Yeah, so that element of music is so wonderful in this
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you know. Yeah, And as you just said before me, like some
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of the bands include this, Papa roach to who Asking, Alexandria, Tommy
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Lee, five Figure Death Punching More Like a lot of those actually act in
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the film too. So you've got Tommy Lee, Anders, Jacobie shaddex As
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Ivan Me, Spencer Charmers, Craig Mabbitt, Like they all had actual parts
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in it. Which it's a fresh and really cool idea, Mate, But
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normally only the songs are actually on the soundtrack, but using the actors,
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And like you say, watching through the movie for att metal fan, it's
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like it's the spot the actor, you knowing what they're doing, and they
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did. They all did such good. They didn't look like may Well musicians
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trying to act. They looked like actors acting. Yeah, that's so beautiful.
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Thank you. It was so important to me. Like I told you,
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I really respected the script. You know, in a horror movie,
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look is a horror movie. But I think the script has a message,
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and I thought the reason I was attracted to it as an actor and a
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producer is because I'm like, it has something you could go talk about after.
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It could touch you. But yet you're on this crazy metal horror journey,
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right and it's fun. But that was the thing. I said it
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earlier, when I knew that we were able to get all these musicians,
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I was just they were all they put so much effort into their roles,
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and they all spent a lot of time talking to me before they got on
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set, and they were really really all amazing man and funny and good and
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open and free and willing to go there. So it was so it was
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just so beautiful to see them do something maybe a little different, but you
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know, they are in front of the camera too. They do their music
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videos, so they're they're pretty open. But yeah, acting is different than
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than than music. But obviously the two have gone together all these years for
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a reason. You know, they're they're both they're both in the and they
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compliment one another. And you know what's funny too, As an actor,
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I like to listen to a certain song, you know, to maybe bring
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me up or maybe knock me down, you know, be happy, sad,
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you know. So it's it was so cool, man. They were
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all like really really fucking cool people too, you know, and they gave
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so much. Like I said, they came, they were ready, man,
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they were ready to work. It was really they they because again it's
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all about like the work ethic too, and the effort. Look, we're
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having fun, I get that, but you really have to these guys man
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on the road touring and what they put into their craft is unbelo evil bal
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It's such a discipline. It's a long journey, you know, doesn't happen
27:03
overnight. So they knew what it what it take, what it would take,
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and they all took it pretty seriously. And I thought they were great.
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So that's one of the biggest compliments. And that was the thing too.
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I wanted you to be like be in the movie, in the character.
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And there's a few guys like there's some of the baby bands on Better
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Noise labels, who are awesome bands, by the way, but they're in
27:22
the movie too, and you don't even in a couple of years. So
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I've been able to be looking back now and its bands to be up here
27:30
and they be going, oh my god. Totally another good aspect of that
27:37
too, man, Like I've seen movies before that have had metal soundtracks and
27:41
they're basically just token soundtracks or they're there to sell the soundtracks, but then
27:45
they don't contribute to the movie. But then the retaliators like watching through it,
27:49
the songs are well placed, like they actually fit the mood, and
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then the lyrics in some of the songs actually fit the storyline. They say,
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they're not just right in there so middle heads to watch the movie.
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They're actually integrated into the storyline really well. Was that difficult? Yeah,
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yeah, that was a big part of it too. And it was like,
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you know, me, Allen and Darren spent a lot of time doing
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that and taking our time and making sure and Randy Bricker edited the film and
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he was the perfect guy to edit. I went through a long time seeing
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who do I want to edit this film? And I'll tell you about Randy
28:25
for a second. He's a guy who has done both horror and story.
28:30
So like he was an apprentice on the film The Firm with Tom Cruise,
28:33
he was on Legend as an editor, then he was on Halloween. He's
28:37
done some increase. He's literally the head editor on the Chucky series right now,
28:45
so he knew both worlds. So he was great in post production.
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And you know what else we did. We got the Stranger Things guys Kyle
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Dixon and Niccolstein who scored Stranger Things, score our f So it was so
29:02
view we were like, we're not going to hold back on the music now
29:04
anywhere, you know, So those guys score it, and then you have
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and it's funny that song by popa Roach the ending, it's got that cynthy
29:12
beginning which sits right in there. So yeah, we put a lot of
29:17
time into thinking where the song would fit best within to also, uh,
29:22
you want the song to enhance the experience for the audience member of what's happening
29:27
between the actors or what's emotionally supposed to be happening, and very important and
29:32
I feel like we put a lot of time in hopefully you know, it
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worked so absolutely NOWT of it because I went into the movie thinking with that
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in mind, Like I was watching the movie partly to see how the music
29:45
fit in with it and how it worked. And and he now it bright,
29:48
I haven't got I'm a I'm a criticize and break and if there was
29:52
something wrong, I'll tell you, but I'll thought it at old Joe beautifuy
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mighte. So you did a great job. Thank you so much, Chris,
30:00
Thank you mansure man. But this question, he is going to put
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you on the spot. Right, But out of all the bands that you
30:06
had in the soundtrack, I want you to put together one messal retaliated supergroup.
30:11
So you picking all the members from the band, give me a drama
30:14
for your group. Oh my god. So now wait a minute, you're
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saying, pick each tell me again with that all the bands that you've got
30:26
on the soundtrack, real, I want you to assemble one super group,
30:30
or like a retaliated super group. So pick a drummer out of any of
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the bands, Pick a guitarist, pick a bass player, pick a vocalist,
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and that's the retaliated supergroup. Ohly, Well, first of all,
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I'm the lead singer, so you are. I don't worry about the Who.
30:47
Don't worry about as on vocal Now, dude, listen, these guys
30:56
are all so good man. I got oh, you know what. I've
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been directing music videos now a lot too. Yeah, because I've been tied
31:06
into this world. So to see the musicianship first of all, have them
31:10
come and set, like even from Masses to do they play in the church.
31:12
Those guys hit so hard, man, They're freaking even from ashes.
31:18
There's so many bands, so I'm like, wait a minute, I'm scrolling
31:19
in my head the Who, Oh my God, the Mongolian, that song
31:27
with Jacoby featured in it, Wolf Totem, Holy Cow. That that song
31:34
is so good and that band is unbelievable. You know. I ended up
31:40
doing a little documentary on the Who subsequent to the film. It's on YouTube.
31:45
It lives on YouTube. It's like a three episode mini doc. Not
31:48
that I went and shot them. I used existing footage and I talked where
31:52
they talk about their instruments because I was so intrigued by these guys. So
31:56
they're absolutely unbelievable. And I got to see them live since and I got
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to see them through the music video with Jacoby. Five Finger Death Pond.
32:07
Jesus, those guys are incredible. I've seen them live a bunch of times.
32:10
I've been so good in the movie. So is Zoltan and Chris Chris
32:15
Kale the bass player, and Andy the guitar player. Unbelievable. Let me
32:21
think, God, man, I know all these guys so well, probably
32:24
better than they know me, because I've been following a fan boing out on
32:29
them all right. And you know who's really great too. There's a band
32:32
called Eva under Fire and they're really starting to blow up. And she opens
32:37
the movie Eva Marie in the van and she's she I thought incredible in the
32:44
movie, incredible woman. I just saw her play at Sirius XM. Her
32:47
vocals are unbelievable. So I could go on and on, man, like
32:52
I really, and I mean this because you put me on the spot.
32:54
But first of all, I have the vinyl. You've got to see the
33:00
vinyl that we made for this movie because it has this eighties throwback feel.
33:05
I got to send you one. It's a double vinyl like blood Splat to
33:10
post all the bands because again the Stranger Things guys, Because the Stranger Things
33:15
guys themselves. Kyle Dixon and Michael Stein sell tons of vinyl just with their
33:22
scores, that's how so they have some We have a couple tracks of the
33:25
scores on there, so like, I'm all these songs and I watched them
33:30
so much in post production where they belong. They've all just the bands have
33:34
made such an impression on me, and and it's it's really hard to pick
33:38
one because I don't think I could love one without the other, because the
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way they all came together for this movie, if that makes sense, they're
33:50
all so important to it. And if we only had like three musicians,
33:53
I don't think it would have been the same. We had like eight,
33:55
which scared me at the beginning. It's too many. What kind of movies
33:59
is gonna be? But I think it all happened to work, so now
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it's like, wow, it was a good thing we had that many,
34:06
you know. And and again every band is also on Every musician in the
34:10
film is also on the soundtrack. But I don't know, Mann, I
34:15
don't know if this kind of formula or this recipe it's all baked into the
34:19
cake, and the cake seems to taste all right at this point, you
34:22
know. And look, like I said earlier, the movie's not for everybody,
34:25
but hopefully, whether you're a fan of the band and that's why you
34:30
go see the movie, or you're just a horror head and you're into the
34:35
movie, maybe you'll be attracted to some of the bands because of it.
34:37
Hopefully it's sort of this symbiotic thing and we're not just milking off the bands.
34:42
You know. Now, my recording's gonna run at in four minutes,
34:45
so I'm gonna have to write this the last question unfortunately. But what's like
34:52
that's outside before me? Like I've been involved that same before that you're talking
34:55
about the movie and with white clubs and stuff like that, and like,
34:58
I have to see in the end of the Like I know it does end
35:00
definitively, but you're gonna have bike clubs come chasing you for what you did
35:05
in that movie, man, Like, is it gonna be a retaliators too?
35:07
Based around that? Dude? You know, we were fortunate enough we've
35:13
gotten some pretty good reviews within our genre, right, Like I can help
35:16
you right that script if you want, brother, Like, if you're going
35:17
to incorporate the bike clubs into it, Yeah, there's so many places to
35:22
go with this and we've got some we've got a script, not scripted,
35:28
but like sort of bullet pointed out, and the idea is to make another
35:30
movie. You hope that you people like this one, So within our genre,
35:36
we're opening that path to hopefully be able to do another one. Yeah,
35:39
it would be a hell of a fun ride and what a gift to
35:43
do this. So anything beyond this would be amazing, you know, but
35:45
we have some twisted, some more twisted places to go. That's right.
35:50
Yeah, you have to bro because that second bike club where ill mate was
35:52
from the wheelchair, they got killed, they come and looking for revenge.
35:55
Brother, you're not getting away with that. That game is great. That
36:00
was a fun scene, wasn't it twisted? Putting his health on the norse
36:05
pipe, knocking his teeth out, like that's the drugs. He's like,
36:12
it's whiter than snow. Wait to ask or some ass cheeks And that's a
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great liab. Good all right, Michael, Thanks very much for your time.
36:22
I'd been an absolutely closure talking with it. The Retaliators is out on
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Apple TV and Google TV in Australia on October eighteen, and I recommend whether
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you like movies, whether you like music, whether you like to be made
36:34
to think check it out. Thank you Chris be Well brother, appreciate your
36:38
time. Man Camde hopefully makes out of Australia one day we get catch up
36:42
and out of beer bro dude, now that would be awesome. Enjoy day,
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