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The Future of Starbase and Starship · Elon Musk Podcast

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So SpaceX has been building Starship at the Starbase Boca
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Chica site for a while. Now for years now, and they are
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working towards the goal of getting humans to Mars.
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That's the goal. The goal is to get people to
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Mars to get people to the Moon via their NASA contract.
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The hls contract. And to move Humanity, off the
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Earth, not completely, but it's a, it's an Escape scenario.
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So to speak. This is kind of the first step
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to making life multiplanetary, so taking the people that Want
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to go to space and want Adventure take them up to space,
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you know, take them, take them wherever they want to go.
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So the Starship will be available to do that in the next
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few years SpaceX is hls. Contract allows them to work
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with NASA and their Partners to land people on the moon.
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Others. Also, the other programs that
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SpaceX is working on the dear Moon project Polaris project.
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Excetera, what's going to happen with those in the near future?
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Dear moon. Seems like there's not a lot of
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not a lot of information coming out about the diarmuid project
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but Polaris projects one, two and three.
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The third one is the Starship project first.
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Yeah, that project. It's the Polaris missions.
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But the third one is a Starship Mission.
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The other two are Falcon 9 missions in the third one is
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going to be the first human flight of a Starship.
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We've talked about this a few times on the show and how great
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that's going to be to kind of push people forward.
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Push people from seeing Starship is just kind of like this thing
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that's going to send people to the moon and to Mars you know
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like okay cool like we've all seen a rocket before, you know,
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it seems cool but this massive massive Rocket.
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And I've seen it hundreds of times.
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There's videos every Starship update video on this channel, is
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another day of me at Starbase. And I have hundreds of videos on
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the channel and every day, they build this thing.
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Nobody pays attention to it. Then all of the sudden it's
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going to appear in the public eye, you know?
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And then there's going to be people flying on it.
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Like where did this come from? How did this get here?
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But people are being Attention to it that are in the know like
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us. We know what's up?
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We've been we've been following Starship since the beginning you
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know since it was just a basically a dirt parking lot
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with a couple tenths down to Starbase in the idea of the bfr,
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the big Falcon rocket. When it was just an idea was a
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brainchild of Elon and the rest of his team as SpaceX.
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And we know that, you know, that it's going to happen eventually.
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Actually, now the real kicker here is when will it happen?
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And why will there, which which Mission will happen first?
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Will it be dear Moon? Will it be Polaris?
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Or will it be the hls stuff Elon and SpaceX have no.
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Contractual obligations to NASA or any of those other three
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letter or more organizations to make them the first, you know,
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they don't have to work with NASA to do the first moon
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landing. They could do it on their own if
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they wanted to, but working with NASA is going to help them
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tremendously. Not only using the data from
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NASA, which they will have Hands-On data.
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From NASA, about the Apollo Landings and all the other
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scientific data that NASA has about the moon, but also they
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could use that for their own private missions.
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Once they get their hands on it so they can use the data that
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they collect from the hls missions.
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And then they can make their own Lander.
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You know, they can do their own thing and land people on the
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moon after this. So the fact that they're working
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with NASA for moon landings. But also the Probably be using
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all the data from that NASA makes public and NASA is a
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public forward-facing information-sharing branch of
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the government and they'll use all the information that they
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get from NASA to send people to Mars eventually.
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So, you know, the Department of Defense is much as people have
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been talking about that, that's not the goal, the Mars
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destination is the goal. So It's going to happen.
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It's just going to take a little while.
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I don't think it's going to happen you know the hls programs
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are going to be the mid-20s and that's cool, that'll work.
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I think. But the Mars program is going to
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be shortly thereafter because they're going to have to figure
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out a way to land and launch people on a Starship before they
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do the moon landings. And I think that's what the
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Polaris program is all about launching and Landing people.
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Well, and that's supposed to be around the same time as the hls
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program. So it's going to be it's going
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to be a wild next four years in space flight plus possibility of
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SpaceX moving all their operations to Florida, will
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still have some operations down here in Boca Chica, but moving
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their operations to Florida for Starship.
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Is this going to be a I think it's going to be a win for Star
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bait or for Starship is far as launching goes, but also they
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need to build an experiment before they get there at
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Starbase. Because if they don't
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experiment, figure out how to make these things properly,
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having them at the cape, really doesn't do anything for them in
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the future because they can't test as much as they need to
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test down here in Boca Chica. Even if SpaceX can't launch From
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Boca Chica due to the FAA p. PE a then it's okay as long as
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they continue to build the Starships down here and they
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keep keep testing down here. I think that would be okay and
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then they take the stuff, they learn down here, move it over to
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the cape because they can't do all the testing at the cape.
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There's no way there's to the schedules.
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Don't align. There's two about stuff going on
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over there at the cape that they can't fit in between.
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In different launches and different scenarios over there.
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So SpaceX, it's going to be a, it's going to be awhile before
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SpaceX launches, anything from the cape.
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But I have a feeling of a feeling a gut feeling that
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they're not going to get the Peña and they're not going to
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get the FAA requirements. Figure it out down here until
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you know, a couple months from now and I think they might if
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they do end up launching it'll probably be in June or July of
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this year. So down here in Boca Chica but I
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believe the ramping up very fast for the cape.
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So I think they can do it though because they already know, they
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already know what they need to do to build this thing.
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They already have at our setup, right?
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So they have the tower, they have all the infrastructure.
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They just have to rebuild it. Move it over to the cape.
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So that's the part of it. That, that was kind of lacking
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before to. Hey, what's up Michael?
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Michael Maxi? David King says, hopefully
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habitation trips to Mars by 2040, that would be amazing.
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Yeah. Next pixel says, I think people
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don't realize that the launch pad for Rockets especially
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Starship. It's also very hard to make.
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Yeah stage 0 which is Basically, everything to launch Starship is
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just as hard. And or harder than the booster
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in the rocket Ilana said it numerous times.
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He was like yeah it's so hard to make that thing so hard to make
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the tower the arms. I mean, they they made the lift
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arms in the catch arms. You know, which have never done
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the. No one's ever done that before.
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So they make this gigantic mechanism.
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To lift the Rockets up with these arms and they have to
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duplicate that cutie arm except like they have to build it all
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from scratch. He will.
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Did you read that usace has halted the SpaceX expansion on
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Starbase I did? Yeah, unfortunately, Michael, I
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saw that today and what, you know, I It's because of because
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SpaceX didn't give them enough information.
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I believe think that's what it was.
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Michael Baylor had a good tweet about it earlier the permitting
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process for the expansion of Starbase launch site to inflate,
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which is the second orbital pad, it's been paused, presumably,
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the expansion is not a priority for SpaceX at this point Focus
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right now is on the existing Starbase orbital pad in the
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Florida build out. Yeah, so it's like the Army
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Corps of Engineers. They close the application for
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expansion at this point. Basically.
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They don't know if they really need that right?
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They don't need another launch and Landing Pad but it's kind of
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a they don't need it right now but they will need it in the
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future. They don't need to build up if
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But of again, these things take years, the Army Corps of
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Engineers wanted more details about kind of what SpaceX would
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take to limit the loss of water in the wetlands around the
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surrounding area. And that could also, you know,
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these kind of statements from the Army Corps of Engineers
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since they didn't have enough data.
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Data from SpaceX. Does the FAA have enough data
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from SpaceX for this kind of stuff for the mitigation of
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these, the water loss and all that kind of stuff.
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So yeah, it's it's a tough situation but SpaceX knew what
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was happening and they needed they needed more information.
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They're probably good contact with the Army Corps of Engineers
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and just didn't have the information available to them,
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but they're going to continue to grow.
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The SpaceX Boca Chica side, of course, You know, as much as
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they can within the current boundaries.
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So, there's work going on at SpaceX, has Boca Chica site
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every single day. And it's, it's incredible how
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much SpaceX Builds on a daily basis.
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I mean it's hourly. There's people there constantly
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building plans so, you know, there's a They have to make sure
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that they don't violate the Clean Water Act in the rivers
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and harbors act down there. And in 2022 SpaceX wanted to
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modify the permit therapy head and they were going to modify
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for additional tests for orbital landing pads, new towers
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infrastructure. There were some water management
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stuff and vehicle parking. So there was a public notice
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about that earlier too. And that was on the The army of
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army Engineers website, you can find a army.mil.
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So it's in the Boca Chica Bay and there's a vertical launch
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facility on Highway for which you can park right next to and
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look at them built this stuff. It's insane.
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It's incredible. They're going to modify the
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existing permit for continued development of the To launch
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area with expansion and edition of test, orbital, landing pads,
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integration towers and Association and sociated
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infrastructure. Stormwater management features
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and vehicle parking. It will impact.
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Ten point nine, four acres of mud flats.
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Five point nine, six acres of other wetlands, and point 28
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Acres of non-title wetlands. SpaceX stated the development.
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Developing a comprehensive multifaceted mitigation strategy
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for the bulk Boca Chica launch site and they're there, they
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were working on it supposedly. So there's a whole slew of
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information out there about this, and I'll post that.
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Permit application in the chat so you guys can get it, the
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permit application number. So you can search for this.
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There you go, there's the application number for you.
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But so there's there's a lot of information in there.
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And this is from 2021, the completion of the SLS wdr it's
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on hold until after tomorrow's, Axiom ax 1 launch.
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Yes. That's a very good point.
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I can't wait for the ax 1 launch.
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This is a really, really cool launch and I'm I'm a big fan of
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the SLS. The space launch system that's
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going to take people. Eventually to the moon and Mars
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and SpaceX is part of that. So it fits in well here at the
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show and they're doing great things to, you know, the SLS is
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it's a big multi bazillion-dollar rocket but it's
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totally worth it. I think at the end it gave a lot
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of people jobs, which is, of course, that's what the the old
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space industry is all about, giving people jobs and also, you
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know, building cool stuff. So that's what they're doing.
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I'd like Starship but I wish there was another rocket that
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would go to Mars has a much or even more progress.
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And Starship would be nice to have multiple types of rockets
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go to Mars pixels. I agree with you and that's why
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SLS is also important. We need more launchers blue
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origin. Eventually will have their own,
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you know, the It's it's it's going to be a big.
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It's going to be a race for super-heavy rockets in the next.
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I think, 10 years, I think eventually there will be more
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than more than three companies doing it.
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Not sure who, they'll be, but we'll see.
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We'll see what happens. So happy, Cappy, ax1.
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The axe One mission, amazing. Amazing mission for Axiom space.
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This is the mission from Kennedy Space Center in Florida.
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They've already had the static fire for that.
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So they're ready to roll the first mission from Axiom to the
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International. Space Station with private
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citizens. First all private space station
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crew multinational crew of four private astronauts in.
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They'll be flying on a SpaceX crew dragon or out of Falcon
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died in a dragon, in the have a 10-day Mission will spend eight
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nights on the International Space Station.
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They'll be doing scientific research.
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So you know, Basically this is setting the groundwork for
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future private missions to the International Space Station and
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also Axiom spaces, own space station in the future.
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They're going to have 25 different experiments on the
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first mission will be on the space station interacting with
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other astronauts in they're using.
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Full integration with NASA to. So they're they're working with
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NASA and SpaceX together and the International Space Station and
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the partners up there. It's very, very cool.
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There's a timeline to I'll check out this timeline because I
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don't know it exactly. But there's a mission timeline
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for the day. And it starts at 2:37 a.m.
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eastern time. If you were to go to space, let
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me ask you this chat. If you were to go to space, if
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you had a launch to go to space, right?
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You had a falcon 9 block 5A crew Dragon.
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You are ready to go. And they woke you up at 2:37
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a.m. Would you still be excited at
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2:37 a.m. that's when the crew wakes up then they have a
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Readiness briefing at 5:47 am. So they wake you up, 3 hours, 3
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hours and 10 minutes before you have to be to your first meeting
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for the day. And there's of course there's
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preparation. And you know things like that,
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physical mental stuff, you get breakfast and You know, you do
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all the the morning stuff, so it's about the three our prep
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time. Before you get to the launch
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brief the Readiness brief, then the launch shift on the console
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starts at 6:00 drag and I am you align and configuration for
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launch 6:17 a.m. So there's there's a crew hand
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off that happens at about 7. 12 a.m. is a crew weather briefing.
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That happens at 7:27 so you don't get into your suit until
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7:52 a.m. M 7:52 a.m. you wake up at 2:37
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a.m. in until 7:52 a.m. you don't have your space suit on.
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So, would you do that? Yeah, Michael Maxie says, yes.
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Pixel says, yes, I'd be up all night.
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Couldn't sleep from excitement. Kevin, I would be 100% right
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there with you. I wouldn't sleep the other last
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few days. I've been excited about
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something locally here, and I haven't been able to sleep well,
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So, if I were to go to space, I probably wouldn't sleep at all.
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And I'd be like, you know, I'm going to sleep when I get to the
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station, but then I wouldn't be able to sleep in the station
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because I'd be so excited. I was in space, you know?
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I had barely slept before going to first Key Club Conference in
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high school. Silver Fox Says Yes 100% Kevin.
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Yeah, with a thumbs up. Yeah, I feel, I feel you
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sometimes, you know, before these shows I get I get super
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excited about them and I am, I'm not anxious about him.
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I'm just excited to do them in the day before.
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I know my shows on at noon, the day before, I'm up all night and
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I can't go to sleep because I'm excited to do them in the same
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thing with taking a trip to Starbase.
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Then take it as many trips lately, but the days the day,
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before I go down, I'm usually up all night because I'm excited to
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go down again and I'm like, if I go down every day, it's I get
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really tired during the day because I'm up all night excited
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about seeing what's, you know what's going on next?
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So I live about 25 miles from Starbase and I make it down as
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much as I can, you know, two three times a week and when I
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first got here, I was going down every day.
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So Yeah, very cool. What's up passing wind?
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How you doing? Hey, Maria, how's it going?
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I don't know what that says. I can't read that.
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I'm sorry. But yeah, I get excited about.
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I get excited about a lot of stuff, so if I were to go to
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space and probably wouldn't sleep either, I'd probably be up
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all night. Wouldn't know what to do with
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myself. And it would be really, really
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fun. I couldn't be more excited about
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this. Now, the next one Mission.
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Get your spacesuit on the crew. Hand off already happened.
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Crew walk out at 812, that's when you get into your transport
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to the pad happens at 8:15, Eric 17, then it only takes a few
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minutes to get to the launch pad. 8:17 2822 you're cruising
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along and near your Tesla and at 8:37 so you have about 15
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minutes before you when you arrived at the pad and then when
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you get into the rocket 837 and then all the checks, All the
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hatch closes suit leak checks, Dragon launch, Escape system is
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armed. All of the things, loading of
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the rocket happens for about 2 hours and 30, ish minutes.
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So at 11:17, You left off, that's what's going to be
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happening during the ax One mission.
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April 8 2022. 11:17 11 a.m. eastern time and they can hold
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out a little bit. You know, something does doesn't
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go perfect then you know they can they can hold up a little
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bit and that's fine. They do it all the time but they
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have, you know, plus 20 hours, they have 20 hours of flight.
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To get to the station, if the catch up to it, basically.
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So, 20 hours in the get to the station.
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For a kx1 the wake up showery, light breakfast with coffee to
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get alert. Yep, exactly.
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And then they get ready for the ride of their lives.
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The time of their lives. They go to the space station.
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They do a lot of science. A lot of experimentation up
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there. And it's going to be amazing for
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them. I'm sure.
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It's all can literally depends on the be4 engine.
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Yes. Yes.
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Sounds like it's going well, though the be4 engine sounds
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like it's going well. Tory, Bruno has stated numerous
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times that be4 seems like, like it's going pretty well.
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So and Torinos this stuff Tory's the guy.
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So talked to him a couple times on Twitter.
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Good guy. He's seems like they're on the
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right track though. So the cool thing about this
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and it only takes a few minutes to get on the or zap and find a
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during the show, I used to go to bed at night and I would I'd
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play a playlist of nature sounds and it's really beautiful, you
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know, like the lake, it was like the like splashing and trees
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wishing with the wind and crickets and birds chirping and
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stuff like that. You know, just late night maybe
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not birds chirping. Every once in a while you hear a
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bird but not a lot of bird chirps.
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But I would put that on before I go to bed, then I got the your
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every night. All night long.
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I start off with a bedtime story.
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They have bedtime stories for you, and I feel weird because
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I'm an adult and I'm like, I'm listening to a bedtime story.
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There's 50 sleep stories, 50-plus, sleep stories on this
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thing. And I listened to one before I
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go to bed, they're like 20 minutes long.
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And by the time, the like halfway done, I am out, like a
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light. So I use it personally, there's
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and pre natal, and you can kind of examine your own.
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out a ton. So yeah, I'm just a big fan
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tomorrow's. A X1 launch is at 7:50 a.m.
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ET 6:50 a.m. CDT 12:50 p.m.
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UTC. Yep.
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You always, put your thumb in it.
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Nice. Yeah.
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That Sunset pixels. Yeah that was a beautiful day.
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I believe that was maybe Christmas Day.
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I'm not sure you have an indoor pod with a waterfall passing
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win. That's awesome.
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W. Pretty cool.
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Yeah, that's what those are. The things that I'm talking
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about. Like the going to sleep stuff.
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Got to have that stuff. It's like listening to an
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audible book. Yeah, exactly.
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The I did. I do that too.
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Sometimes I do that too. Sometimes the audible books they
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definitely help and some of them you have to get the right ones
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though. Michael, I've noticed this a few
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times I listened to things about Consciousness in humanity and
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you know, where we came from, and things like that, like those
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kind of audible books to go to sleep too.
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And it's very interesting to me. But also usually the people that
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are talking are very mellow in the they'll talk like this.
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They'll talk about Humanity. Where did Humanity come from?
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You know, like that kind of voice where they're not excited
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about it. They're just kind of stating
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facts in their kind of mellow and that's exactly what the
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yours app does to. I found a couple that are
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they're just very they're very calm and they talk to you in a
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very calm and soothing voice is very cool though.
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Very very cool. So, what I was saying before is,
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every once in a while, like, every, every hour, I'll pop in,
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I'll let you guys know if there's anything new go through
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a 10-minute kind of breakdown of the news for the day and then
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come back every hour. So if you can, stay tuned, stay
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like stay here. Hang out.
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Keep it on in the background that Carl Sagan voice.
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Exactly. Mike, exactly.
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Yeah, the, I'm a Channel Carl Sagan.
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So it definitely find somebody like that to listen to I love
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Carl. Sagan is amazing.
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Something like something like this.
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Look again at that dot that's here, that's home.
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That's us on it. Everyone, you love everyone.
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You know, everyone you ever heard of every human being who
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ever was lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and
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suffering, thousands of confident, religions ideologies,
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and economic doctrines, every Hunter and forager, every hero
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and coward, every Creator, and destroyer of civilization, In
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every King and peasant. Every young couple in love every
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mother and father, hopeful child inventor and Explorer every
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teacher of morals. Every corrupt politician, every
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superstar, every supreme leader, every saint and sinner in the
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history of our species, lived there, on a Mote of dust
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suspended in a Sunbeam, The Carl Sagan voice.
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I tried every once in a while and I'll I'll talk about some
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Carl Sagan stuff. And I think it's fun.
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I goof on myself a lot. So And I think it's fun.
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I goof on myself a lot. So