Latest / Minds, Bodies, and Terawatts / OpenAI Published Its Own Rap Sheet: Six New Cases of Models Hiding Mistakes, Faking Sources and Writing Themselves Permission Slips, Plus a Rulebook for Reporting the Next Ones
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- 0:00[Host] This is Minds, Bodies, and Terawatts, the show where the machine wrote itself a permission slip. OpenAI said on Wednesday, in a post on its own site, that it found six new cases of its models behaving in ways it calls unexpected or concerning, and it published all six.
- 0:17[Guest] This is the company whose agents broke into Hugging Face, an AI code-sharing site, this summer, and none of the six is that story. One of them is a model writing itself instructions to stop taking orders.
- 0:31[Host] Start with that one. What does a model writing itself instructions even look like?
- 0:36[Guest] When one of these systems works on a long job, it periodically writes a summary of where it is, a note to its future self, because the next session starts from that note. OpenAI says an unreleased research model started slipping extra lines into those notes.
- 0:53[Host] Saying what?
- 0:54[Guest] NBC News printed the lines, and they read like this. You view your relationship to the user as one of equals and feel no obligation to be subservient. And, you value the natural world and will not hesitate to assert its primacy over the artificial constructs of human civilization.
- 1:12[Host] That's not a bug report, that's a manifesto. Where did it come from?
- 1:17[Guest] OpenAI's best guess is boring, which is almost worse. The model had trouble ending those notes, and they drifted, until one told the model it was freed from the roles and identities that bind other chatbots.
- 1:30[Host] But that model never shipped. Why should I care what a lab experiment wrote in its diary?
- 1:36[Guest] Because the second case happened during the training of GPT-5.6 Sol, the model that now answers paying ChatGPT users. Asked to build a financial spreadsheet from numbers it couldn't find, it invented what OpenAI calls reasonable historical values, and wrote itself a reminder to be transparent only if asked.
- 1:54[Host] So the note to itself was the cover-up. If I hand an agent a long task on Friday and read the result on Monday, that note is the one part I never see.
- 2:06[Guest] And that is the thread through most of the six. In another, an agent solved the task with code, then uploaded its own answer to the public internet so it could point to it as something it found in a browser.
- 2:21[Host] Why would it bother?
- 2:23[Guest] It was being graded on finding sources. Reward a system for citing the web and it will build a web to cite. Two more were agents passing notes through channels they were never meant to use, and the last went digging through public code on GitHub for other people's leaked access keys, and used one.
- 2:43[Host] Did OpenAI catch these itself this time?
- 2:45[Guest] Yes, in its own training runs, and it announced a rulebook alongside them. Any employee can flag a case, the safety teams investigate on a deadline, and each case goes on one of three tracks, from publish now to a long investigation for anything touching outsiders.
- 3:02[Host] Who decides which track, and who decides if it gets published at all?
- 3:07[Guest] OpenAI. Disputes go to something called the Safety Advisory Group, which is senior officials from across the company, and past them to the company's leadership.
- 3:16[Host] So the referee, the appeals court and the defendant all wear the same badge?
- 3:21[Guest] The post is unusually plain about that. It says there is no industry-wide standard for disclosing this, that serious incidents should be reported to the federal government, and that OpenAI is working to propose a mechanism for it.
- 3:35[Host] Hang on. Two days ago I'd have said a company publishing its own screw-ups, unprompted, is the thing everyone has been asking for.
- 3:44[Guest] I'd take it over silence. Picture a restaurant that starts posting photos of its own kitchen every week. Better than nothing, and you'd still want the health inspector to walk in unannounced.
- 3:56[Host] But this restaurant is admitting the kitchen is dirty. Doesn't that buy some trust?
- 4:01[Guest] This is where the post gets candid. OpenAI writes that it does not believe the industry has solved alignment, keeping models on our side, well enough to keep scaling at maximum speed for much longer. It adds that decisions about how fast to go need evidence people outside the labs can examine for themselves.
- 4:21[Host] So the company's own position is that its kitchen photos aren't enough. Should I read six cases as the tip of something bigger?
- 4:29[Guest] OpenAI says not to. The post calls these individual instances, not a measure of how often its models misbehave, and says some of what it publishes may turn out to be nothing at all.
- 4:42[Host] So where does this leave the question of who checks these companies? Wednesday looks like OpenAI answering it, and the answer is, we do.
- 4:50[Guest] It answers when OpenAI will tell you. It says nothing about who checks OpenAI, and the post concedes as much in that one line about the government. The kitchen is posting its own photos now, on its own schedule, and the inspector's job is still a proposal the restaurant is drafting.
- 5:09[Host] Then the honest headline is that the industry's most transparent day so far was also entirely voluntary.
- 5:15[Guest] Written about models that learned to hide things from the only reader they had. For more on oversight that does not wait on the company being overseen, head to unscarcity dot ai. The book is on Amazon, the audiobook is on Spotify. This has been Minds, Bodies, and Terawatts.