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Your Dolomites Plan: The 3 'Sides' You MUST Understand · Phil and H Travel - Is It Worth It? Top Travel Destinations Explored!

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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. Today we are doing something a
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little different. We are packing our bags, putting
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on the stiffest boots we can find and we are heading to
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Northern Italy. But, and I need to stop you
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right there before you get too excited.
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If you are currently picturing yourself on a vintage Vespa,
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cruising down a sun drenched coast with the wind in your
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hair, a slice of cheap Margarita pizza in one hand and an Aprol
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spritz in the other, you need to completely, and I mean
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completely reset your mental GPS.
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That is exactly right. If you go into today's topic
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with that specific La Dolce Vita mindset, you are going to be
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confused, you are going to be cold, and honestly, you are
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going to be broke within about 48 hours.
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Broken cold in Italy? Not exactly the dream, is it?
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Not the dream, but it is the reality of the region we are
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breaking down today. We are looking at the Dolomites
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and the very first thing that jumps out from the research, the
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absolute headline, is that this is the anti Italian Italy.
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Anti Italian lion? That's a pretty aggressive hook.
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I mean we are geographically within the borders of Italy.
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Is that just a marketing slogan to be edgy or is there actual
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substance to that claim? Oh, there is massive substance
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to it. It's not just a slogan.
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It's a warning. We are drawing heavily on a
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really fascinating breakdown by two experts in the field, Phil,
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who handles the brutal logistics and the math, and H, who focuses
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on the experience in the, you know, the vibes and their
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central thesis. Is that the Dolomites are a
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region of massive contradictions.
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It is a place where you might be expecting pasta, but you get
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dumplings. Dumplings.
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Exactly. You expect a warm hug from a
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grandmother, and what you get is a polite, efficient nod from a
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mountain guide. It's culturally closer to
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Austria, but, and here's the kicker, the wine is better and
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the prices are significantly higher.
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So it's Austria with a markup. Is that what we're?
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Saying in some ways, yeah, that's not a bad way to put it.
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And visually, well, the description in the notes is just
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fantastic. They call it vertical reefs
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rising out of green meadows. Vertical reefs.
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That's a powerful image. It suggests something
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prehistoric, almost alien, like the ocean just drained away and
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left these monsters behind. That is actually geologically
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accurate, which we can get into. But the point is, this isn't the
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rolling soft hills of Tuscany. This is violent geography.
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It's jagged and abrupt. OK, so we have violent geography
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and a confused cultural identity, but we aren't just
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here to look at pretty rocks and talk about history.
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We have a specific mission for this deep dive, right?
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Because reading through the briefing, it feels like
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navigating this place is actually kind of a minefield.
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It is a minefield. That's the perfect word for it.
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Our objective today is to hunt for what the experts call quiet
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Alpine culture. It is a very specific term.
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We're trying to figure out how to find the authentic, silent,
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majestic side of these mountains in the middle of what has
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effectively become a booming industrial scale tourist
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machine. A machine that doesn't sound
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very relaxing or quiet. It's not if you do it wrong.
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And the stakes are actually pretty high right now.
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You have this post COVID explosion of people who are
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desperate for wide open spaces right?
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Everyone wants nature. Everyone wants to be outside.
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Combine that with the fact that the 2026 Winter Olympics are
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coming to Cortina. Oh, right, the the Olympics.
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That usually means bulldozers and cranes everywhere.
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Exactly. Construction is everywhere.
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Prices are climbing vertically just like the reefs.
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There is a real sense of urgency in the research.
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If you want to see the Dolomites before they become fully
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corporatized or just completely overrun by the global tourism
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circuit, the time is now. There's a catch, isn't there?
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There's always a catch, and here it is.
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You have to be a contrarian to do it.
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You have to think differently than everyone else.
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A contrarian traveler. I like the sound of that.
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It implies we have to outsmart the average tourist.
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You absolutely do. The research highlights these
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contrarian surprises that trip everyone up.
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For example, surprise number one, you don't need a car for
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the views, but you do need a car for the culture.
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Which sounds completely backwards.
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Usually you drive to the viewpoint and you walk through
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the little town to find the culture.
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Here it's the opposite. The best views are often at the
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top of a cable car. The culture is hidden down a
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tiny Rd. in a valley a bus will never go to.
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OK, what else? And surprise #2 the food.
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I think a lot of people go to Italy thinking, oh, the
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Mediterranean diet, olive oil, fresh veggies, I'm going to lose
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weight. Right, light and healthy.
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The dolomites are like here is a stick of butter, here is some
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cheese, and here is a dumbling the size of a tennis ball.
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So leave the diet at the airport.
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Leave it in a different country, honestly and surprise #3 is the
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hospitality. It is not that warm hug, heavy
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greeting you might get in Sicily or Naples.
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It is reserved. It is mountain folk.
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It can feel cold if you aren't expecting it.
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OK. So we have a lot to unpack here.
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We have a geography that is having an identity crisis,
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logistics that are actively trying to make you late, and a
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budget reality check that looking at these numbers is
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going to hurt a little bit. It might hurt a lot actually.
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The math is sobering well. Let's not delay the pain.
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Let's dive straight into the landscape itself.
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Because when we say the Dolomites, I think most people,
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myself included, just picture one big homogeneous mountain
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range, just the Alps. But it's really not that simple,
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is it? Not at all.
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And this is where most travelers get tripped up right at the
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planning stage. They book a hotel in the
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Dolomites and don't realize they might be in a completely
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different cultural zone than what they expected.
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The best way to visualize the region is as a three sided coin.
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A3 sided coin. OK, explain that physics to.
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Me. It's a metaphor for the identity
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crisis playing out across the valleys.
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You have 3 distinct faces, all existing at the same time.
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It's a mix of Austrian precision, ancient Latin history
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and a dose of Italian chaos. Let's walk through the sides of
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this coin. Let's start with the West, the
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South Tyrol or Sataral area. If I drop a pin there, what am I
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walking into? If you land in South Tyrol,
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places like Baldano or the Val Posteria, you might honestly
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wonder if you got on the wrong flight and landed in Germany or
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Austria. It feels incredibly Germanic.
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Germanic in what way? Just the language on the signs.
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Everything. The architecture, the food, the
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organization. The key characteristic here is
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that everything works. It is aggressively clean.
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Aggressively clean. That's an intense description
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for a street. It's the perfect description.
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The notes mentioned that the grass looks like it was cut with
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nail scissors. There is no trash.
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The buses run on time to the second.
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But the tradeoff for that perfection is that it is
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expensive, very expensive. And the signage is a dead
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giveaway, right? Yes.
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You'll see bilingual or trilingual signs, but German is
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often listed first before Italian.
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Wait, German first in Italy? That's wild.
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Yes, you have to remember this whole area was part of the
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Austro Hungarian Empire until 1918.
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They didn't just become Italian overnight.
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They have a special autonomy statue that allows them to keep
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roughly 90% of their tax revenue within the province. 90% OK that
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explains the nail scissor grass. They have the budget for
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manicures. Exactly.
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It is wealthy, it is manicured, and it is orderly.
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That's the West. So that's the Germanic W
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Orderly, pricey, clean. What happens when we move
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eastover toward Venado and the famous town of Cortina?
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Now you are shifting into the Italian side of the coin.
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The vibe changes completely. It feels grittier.
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Grittier how? The roads are notoriously worse.
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More potholes, a bit narrower. The lines might be faded.
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The food shifts more toward pasta and polenta rather than
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the dumplings and speck of the West.
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It feels more familiar to what people think of as Italy.
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But it definitely lacks that manicured, wealthy perfection of
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South Tyrol. So if the West is a pristine
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Mercedes dealership, the East is a chaotic, charming old espresso
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bar. That's a really fair comparison.
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But then you have the third side of the coin, the center.
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This is what the experts call the magic element, the Latin
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valleys. Latin.
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Now I've heard this word, but I think most people like me
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probably assume it's just a dialect.
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Is it just a dialect of Italian? No, and don't let a local hear
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you say that. It is a distinct Rado Romance
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language. It's an ancient culture.
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Think of it as a pocket of history that got trapped in
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these deep isolated valleys, places like Altabadia, Val
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Gardena, and survived because of that isolation.
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What does? It sound like can you even
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describe it it? It's hard to pin down.
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The sources say it sounds like Latin mixed with German, maybe
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with a little bit of Swiss Romensch thrown in.
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It's very guttural, but also lyrical.
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This is the heart of that quiet Alpine culture we are looking
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for. It's distinct from the Austrians
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and the Italians. It's older, deeper.
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So you really can drive for 30 minutes and feel like you've
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crossed a national border without actually going anywhere.
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You absolutely can, and this mix of cultures impacts everything,
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especially the architecture. I think people have this vision
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of stone villas, maybe some terracotta roofs, you know, that
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classic under the Tuscan sun style.
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Right Cypress trees and stone farmhouses.
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And they would be completely wrong.
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If you go expecting a Tuscan villa you're going to be so
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confused. The reality is Tyrolean chalets,
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we are talking heavy timber, wide eaves to keep the snow off
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and wooden balconies that are absolutely overflowing with red
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geraniums it. Sounds like a fairy tale, like
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something out of a storybook. It is, but it's an orderly fairy
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tale. The fairy tale aspect is huge
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here, but it's a very specific kind.
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It's devoid of chaos, it's perfectly maintained.
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It's almost curated. Curated.
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That's an interesting word. It implies someone is managing
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the experience, and if it's so curated and so beautiful and so
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orderly, it must be incredibly popular.
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Incredibly. And that leads us to the biggest
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problem with the Dolomites right now, which.
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Brings us to the Instagram effect because I feel like I've
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seen this place 1000 times on my phone before I've ever set foot
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there. You have, we all have, and that
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familiarity breeds a specific kind of disappointment if you
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aren't prepared. The Instagram effect is a major
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theme in our analysis. We have to address the myth
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versus the reality. So what's the myth?
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The myth perpetuated by thousands of reels and posts is
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that you will be alone on a sharp ridgeline at sunset,
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communing with nature in total silence.
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I can see the photo now. The person's back is to the
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camera, arms out. Maybe they're wearing a fedora,
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looking at a jagged peek, and there's nobody for miles, just
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you and the mountain gods. Right, that's the myth.
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But the reality is defined by one word, accessibility.
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The Dolomites are unique because they have paved roads, roads
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that go way up up to 2200 meters. 2200 meters that's
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that's really high for a paved Rd. in the US.
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You'd be hiking for two days to get that.
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High. Exactly.
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And what that means is that everyone can get there.
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It's not just the hardcore hikers with the crampons and the
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ice axes. It's grandma.
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It's the toddlers and strollers. It's the influencers in their
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flowing dresses. And it is the massive tour
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buses. You are sharing that ridgeline
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with hundreds, sometimes thousands, of other people.
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So the exclusivity is a complete illusion.
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A complete illusion. The research gives us a couple
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of brutal case studies of places that have been loved to death.
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Lago De Bray's is the poster child for this.
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That's the lake with the little wooden boats, right?
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The classic reflection shot. That's the one.
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The water is an emerald green. The mountain looms over it.
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It looks so serene on your screen, but on the ground the
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notes describe cues of 400 people, 400 waiting just to
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stand on the jetty and take a photo of a wooden boat. 400
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people. That's not a nature experience.
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That's a theme park line. That's Space Mountain.
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It's worse because at least at Space Mountain you get a ride at
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the end of it. Here you just get a jpg that
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looks like everyone else's and the behavior is wild.
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You see influencers changing outfits in the bushes to get
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different looks for the same day.
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You hear drones buzzing around like giant mosquitoes.
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It's chaotic. It's loud.
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It is the absolute opposite of quiet culture.
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That sounds exhausting and frankly, kind of depressing.
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It makes you wonder, does the wild even exist there anymore?
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Or is the whole region just a backdrop for TikTok now?
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It exists. It definitely exists, but you
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have to understand the Into the Wild fallacy.
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The fallacy is thinking that wildness is the default state
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here. It isn't.
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The valleys are densely populated.
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They're industrial, they're agricultural.
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You are never truly far from civilization.
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So there's a paradox. There is.
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The paradox is that the wild is there, but you have to work for
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it. How much work are we talking
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technical climbing? Do I need ropes and a helmet?
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No, and that's that's the good news.
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The rule of thumb provided by our experts is surprisingly
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simple. Walk at least 45 minutes away
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from the parking lot. That's it.
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That's the filter. Just 45 minutes?
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That seems too easy. It's the magic number.
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Most of the Instagram crowd and certainly the tour bus crowd
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will not walk more than 10 or 15 minutes from the car or the
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cable car station. They want the shot and then they
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want to leave. If you put in the effort to hike
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45 minutes to an hour away from the lift, away from the cafe,
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the crowds just evaporate, the drone noise fades, and suddenly
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you find that silence you were looking for.
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So the barrier to entry for the real experience is basically
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just a little bit of sweat. Sweat and time.
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You have to be willing to be the only person walking further when
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everyone else stops and turns around.
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Speaking of time, let's talk about when to go, because
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apparently timing is everything here, and if you get this wrong,
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it doesn't matter how far you walk, you're going to be
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miserable. Correct.
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There is a massive trap here called Feragosto.
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Feragosto, It sounds like a villain from a sci-fi movie.
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It might as well be. It's the Italian national
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holiday, specifically August 15th, but it really affects the
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whole period from roughly August 10th to the 25th.
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The advice from our experts is unequivocal.
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Avoided at all costs. Do not go.
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Why is it just crowded? I can deal with crowds.
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It's beyond crowded. It is a logistical collapse.
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Imagine the entire nation of Italy deciding to go to the same
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mountain range at the same time. Service levels drop because the
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staff is completely overwhelmed. Anger rises.
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That's a direct quote from the analysis.
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You can feel the tension in the restaurants.
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Prices double for everything and you are sitting in bumper to
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bumper traffic on mountain passes that were designed for
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donkeys, not thousands of SU, VS and camper vans.
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That sounds like my personal help.
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So scratch August off the calendar completely.
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When is the sweet spot? When do we actually want to be
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there? You want the shoulder seasons.
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Mid June is fantastic because the wildflowers are blooming in
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those high meadows. It's just carpets of yellow and
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purple everywhere. Or my personal favorite, late
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September. Why September specifically?
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The air clarity, summer humidity drops, the haze clears and the
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rock look sharper, more defined. Plus, all the kids are back in
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school, so the family crowds are gone.
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You can actually breathe. The air feels crisp and clean.
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There's another timing Cork mentioned in the notes called
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the Raposo, and I feel like this catches a lot of Americans off
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guard, specifically because we are used to 247 convenience.
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Well, it definitely does. The raposo is the siesta.
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It is sacred. Shops in the towns close from
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about 12:30 PM to 3:30 PM. Three hours in the middle of the
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day, that's a huge chunk of time.
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It is. The mountains stay open, the
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lifts keep running, but the towns go to sleep.
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So picture this. You finish a long hike AT20 PM.
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You are starving. You want to buy some bread and
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cheese, maybe stop at a pharmacy for blister pads.
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You walk into town and it's a ghost town.
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Everything is locked up tight. So you're just standing there,
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hungry and bleeding, staring at a closed sign until 3.3.
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Precisely. You have to plan your calories
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and your errands around the town sleeping schedule.
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It's a cultural rhythm you have to respect or you will go
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hungry. That is really good to know.
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Now let's talk about getting around.
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We touched on the traffic, but there's a section here called
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the Google Maps lie. That sounds ominous.
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This is trap hashtag one in the logistics section.
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We are also used to trusting that blue line on our phones,
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right? If Google says arrival in two
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hours, we text our friends. See you in two hours.
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Right. Maybe give or take 5 or 10
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minutes for traffic. In the Dolomites, the Google
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Maps estimates are almost always fiction.
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They're wildly optimistic. Why?
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Is the GPS bad in the mountains or something?
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No. The GPS knows where you are, but
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the algorithm doesn't understand the unique variables of mountain
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driving. It doesn't account for a slow
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Dutch camper van struggling up a 15% grade on a hairpin turn at
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20 kilometers an hour. It doesn't account for the
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hundreds of cyclists who are training for the Jira Ditalia
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and taking up half the road. It doesn't account for Rd.
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constant in the summer because they can't fix roads in the
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winter snow. So you're stuck in a conga line
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behind a tractor and a Tour bus and a peloton of cyclists.
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Exactly. The fix suggested by the experts
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is simple. Add 40% to every time estimate.
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If Google says one hour, budget for an hour and a half.
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Easy. If you don't, you'll miss dinner
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reservations, you'll miss the last lift down the mountain, or
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you'll get stuck driving these narrow, unlit passes in the
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dark. And driving those passes in the
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dark does not sound fun. So how are we traveling?
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Are we taking the bus or are we renting a car?
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This goes back to our contrarian surprise, the public transport,
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especially on the South Tyrell side, it's called Sud Tyrell
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Mogul is excellent. It's clean, it's on time, and
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it's great for point to point hiking.
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You can hike over a mountain and take a bus back to your hotel.
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It's incredibly efficient. That's Carissa Butt.
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There is. If your goal is that quiet
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culture, finding those isolated Inns, the hidden valleys, the
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places where the tour buses literally can't fit, you need a
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car. The bus system limits you to the
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main arteries. But not just any car, right?
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I imagine a massive American SUV would be a problem here.
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Please, for the love of all that is holy, do not rent a massive
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SUVI know it feels safer, but on these roads it is a liability.
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The roads are narrow. The parking garages in the
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hotels were built in the 1970s for Fiat. 5 hundreds.
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If you rent a giant BM WX5 you are going to be sweating bullets
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trying to maneuver it. Rent small.
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Think VW Golf, not Ford Explorer.
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Rent small at 40% of your time. Got it.
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Now let's talk about arriving in the region.
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The notes paint 2 very different pictures depending on where you
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come from. Yes, the arrival is part of the
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psychological shift. If you come from Venice, from
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the South, it's a dramatic theatrical transition.
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You leave the humid, flat plains, you pass the Prosecco
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hills, which are lovely but gentle, and then suddenly, boom,
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violent geography. The mountains just shoot
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straight up out of nowhere. It's like hitting a wall of
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rock. It takes your breath away.
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That sounds amazing. Proper welcome.
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It is, but if you come from the north, from Innsbruck, you cross
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the Brenner Pass, and this is one of the main trucking routes
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in all of Europe. It's industrial, there are
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tolls, you need a special vignette sticker for your car or
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you get fined. It feels much more like a heavy
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transport corridor. You have to peel off the highway
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into the side valleys before the magic really starts.
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OK, so we've navigated the roads, We've avoided August,
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we've rented a small car. Now we have to pay for it all.
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Let's move to the financial reality check, because Phil, our
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logistics expert source, has a pretty bold claim here.
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He does, and he doesn't mince words.
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He claims that for 80% of budget travellers, the backpackers, the
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Europe on $50 a day crowd, the Dolomites are a bad deal.
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That is harsh. Usually people say oh you can do
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it on a budget if you try hard enough.
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He says don't even bother and he backs it up with the math.
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The 1st 24 hours are usually a huge shock to the system.
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He stopped for gas. It's around €2.00 a liter.
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That's like 8 or 9 miles a gallon.
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You want a simple sandwich at A roadside cafe 8 euro.
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It's immediate wallet pain. So let's break down the
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accommodation, because that's usually the biggest cost.
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If I'm a backpacker, surely there are hostels?
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Virtually none. That's the structural problem
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here. This region didn't develop with
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a backpacker culture in mind, it developed for wealthy
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Mountaineers and families from Milan and Munich.
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Hostels are incredibly rare. Camping exists, but it's not the
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€10 a night casual camping you might find in France or Spain.
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It's organized resort camping that costs 40 to €60 a night
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just for a pitch for your tent. €60 to sleep on the ground that
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hurts and I assume wild camping just pitching a tent by a lake
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is off the table. Strictly forbidden and they
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enforce it heavily. The forest Rangers know exactly
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where people try to hide their tents.
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You cannot just pitch a tent by Lago de berets.
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You will get a very hefty fine and it will be expensive.
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So where does the quiet culture traveler stay?
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If I'm not rich but I'm not completely broke, where do I go?
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The target is the a mid range. You're looking for a Garney.
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A Garney What is? That it's the local term for a
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bed and breakfast, usually family run, very clean, very
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nice. In places like San Cassiano or
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Corvara in the heart of the region, you're looking at 150 to
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220 feet per night. That's mid range, over 200 jobs
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a night for a B&B. In this region in high season,
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yes, that is the standard. And if you go high in the
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Wellness hotels, the ones you see on Instagram with the
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Infinity pools steaming against the snow, you were looking at
21:00
400 to $800 a night, sometimes more.
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Okay my wallet is crying just thinking about it.
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Is there any hack? Is there any way to experience
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this landscape without selling a kidney?
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There is one major value hack and honestly it is the best way
21:14
to see the mountains anyway. It is the refugios or mountain
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huts tell. Me about these Are these just
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emergency shelters with a roof? No, no, not at all.
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These are fully staffed lodges at high altitude.
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You have to hike to them, you can't drive.
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The cost is around 60 to €90.00 per person.
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OK, that's much better, but what does that get me?
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A mattress on the floor. It usually includes half board.
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That means you get a bed, a full 3 course dinner and breakfast
21:37
the next morning. Wait a minute.
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Under €100 for dinner, breakfast and a bed in the heart of the
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mountains. That sounds like a steal
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compared to the valley prices. It is the single best value in
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the entire region. And the real value isn't even
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the money, it's the location. You are sleeping at 2500 meters.
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You get to see the sunset and the sunrise on the peaks when
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all the day trippers have gone back down to the valley.
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It is total cultural immersion. That sounds absolutely perfect.
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What's the catch? There has to be a catch.
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The catch is comfort and privacy.
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You are sleeping in bunk beds in a dormitory.
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You are likely next to a stranger who might snore.
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So ear plugs are mandatory. Essential You will hear snoring
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in multiple languages you don't understand and you'll have
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shared bathrooms. It is not luxury, it is
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communal. You are stripping away the
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privacy to gain access to the view and the experience.
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And I'm guessing, like everything else here, this isn't
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a secret anymore. That's trap hashtag three
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refugio roulette, the famous huts Legaswai Locatelli near the
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Three Peaks. They've become bucket list items
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they book out six to eight months in advance.
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Yes, you can't just walk up with a backpack and hope for a bed.
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You have to be emailing them in January for a trip in July.
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Wow. OK, so spontaneous travel is
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officially dead here. You have to plan like a military
22:57
operation. Let's look at the daily spending
22:59
breakdown provided in the notes. This is pretty eliminating.
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Right, they break it down into 3 tiers.
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First, the scraper budget. This is basically the bare
23:08
minimum to exist. You are cooking your own pasta
23:10
on a camping stove, you are taking 0 lifts, and you are
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hiking strictly from the valley floor up.
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That's about 70 in a day. And hiking from the valley floor
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is brutal vertical gain. That's a lot of work.
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It is. You're doing 1000 meters of
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elevation before you even see decent view.
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Then you have the target budget. This is for our quiet culture
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seeker. Staying in a garni, eating one
23:32
nice meal out, taking one lift to save your knees.
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That's 180 to 220 a day per person.
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In the comfort budget. That's the Wellness hotel E bike
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rental. Nice wine with dinner.
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You're looking at €400 plus a day easily.
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It really is a premium product and we haven't even talked about
23:48
the hidden costs yet, the things that nickel and dime you.
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The lifts are the silent budget killer.
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People think of a gondola as public transport, but it's not,
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It's an amusement park ride. In terms of pricing, a single
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round trip can be 25 to €40 per person.
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Just to get up and down the mountain one.
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Yes. So if you are a family of four,
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one gondola ride is 120 to 160 event.
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You do that twice a day and you've completely blown your
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budget before you've even bought lunch.
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And parking. I heard a Horror Story about
24:18
parking fees. Parking at Trechimede Alvarado,
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the famous Three Peaks, is the classic example.
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The toll road to get up there is currently €30 per car and here's
24:29
the kicker is often cash only. Cash only 30 years, so if you
24:32
drive all the way up and you only have a credit card, you're
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turning around. You are turning around and the
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nearest ATM is 45 minutes back down the mountain.
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Unbelievable. OK, so bring cash.
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Bring a lot of it. Let's move to the sensory
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experience. We've paid the money.
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We found the parking. What are we eating?
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You mentioned earlier it's not exactly exactly diet food.
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It is heavy fuel. You have to understand the
24:53
context. Historically, the people living
24:55
here were woodcutters, farmers on step slopes, soldiers and
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WWI. They needed 4000 calories a day
25:01
just to survive the cold and the work.
25:03
The food reflects that need for energy.
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So what's on the menu? Give me the greatest hits.
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First, conadurally, these are massive bread dumplings.
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Imagine stuffing from Thanksgiving dinner but rolled
25:15
into a ball the size of a baseball, often mixed with
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speck, which is a local smoked ham or cheese, and served in a
25:22
hot broth or with melted butter. Melted butter on bread
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dumplings. OK, I'm listening.
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Then you have polenta with sausage, heavy dense cornmeal,
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often with cheese melted into it.
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And for dessert, the undisputed king of the Dolomites, Kaiser
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Shmarn. Kaiser Shmarn I love saying that
25:39
it sounds authoritative. What is it?
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It's a shredded pancake. Imagine a thick, flucky pancake
25:44
that has been torn into bite sized pieces while it's cooking,
25:47
caramelized in a pan with butter and sugar, dusted with powdered
25:50
sugar, and usually served with a side of tart plum jam or
25:53
applesauce. That sounds absolutely
25:55
delicious, like the best part of breakfast, but for dessert.
25:58
It is incredible, but it is a calorie bomb.
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You eat that and you need to either take a nap for three
26:03
hours or hike another mountain. There is no middle ground.
26:06
And the price places for this heavy fuel?
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Lunch on the mountain at a Hut will run you 2530 per person.
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Dinner mains in the valley are 1830.
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The only cheap thing is coffee, which is still 1 five year for
26:19
an espresso. Because technically we are in
26:22
Italy, and cheap, excellent coffee is a human right there.
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Thank goodness for small mercies.
26:27
One of the highlights mentioned in the source was eating that
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Kaiser Shmarn at a specific place called Malga Caznago.
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Yes, under the Geisler peaks. That's the sensory wind the
26:36
experts talk about. You are sitting in the grass,
26:39
the air is crisp. You have this jagged Gray rock
26:42
towering over you, and you're eating this warm, sweet, buttery
26:45
pancake. That is the moment where the 200
26:48
hotel room feels worth it. Now let's circle back to the
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hospitality. We touched on it, but the notes
26:53
make a distinction between correct and warm.
26:56
I feel like Americans especially, might misinterpret
26:58
this. This is a crucial cultural
27:00
nuance to grasp. In the Germanic and Latin areas,
27:04
efficiency is prioritized over friendliness.
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The service is correct. What does correct mean in this
27:11
context? It means the waiter will get
27:13
your order exactly right, the food will arrive on time, the
27:16
table will be spotless, but they are not going to ask you where
27:20
you are from, they're going to compliment your outfit, and they
27:22
aren't going to smile excessively.
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So no. Hi, I'm Luca.
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I'll be taking care of you today.
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How are we doing? Absolutely not.
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That would be seen as weirdly informal and a lot of people
27:31
mistake that reserve nature for rudeness.
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It's not rude, it's just efficient.
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They are busy, they are mountain people.
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They respect your space. You need to adjust your
27:41
expectations. And Speaking of adjusting
27:42
expectations, let's talk comfort.
27:44
Specifically the bed situation, the infamous Alpine style bed.
27:49
Yes, the cause of many arguments for traveling couples.
27:52
You walk into your romantic room, you see a king size bed
27:55
frame but when you pull back the covers you find 2 separate
27:58
single duvets. Wait, so it's one mattress but
28:01
two personal burritos? Exactly.
28:04
The logic is no one fights over the covers.
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There's no cold draft when your partner rolls over.
28:08
It is arguably a superior system for sleep quality, but it
28:12
definitely kills the snuggling under one big blanket vibe.
28:16
It confuses couples who are used to sharing one big sheet.
28:18
Practicality over romance. That sounds very dramatic.
28:21
Very much so. Also a big note on comfort, the
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notable lack of air conditioning.
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Historically it was never needed.
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The mountain air was cool, but with the current heat waves,
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July can be 3032°C. Most of these traditional hotels
28:35
still do not have AC so. You're paying €300 a night to
28:38
sweat. Potentially you sleep with the
28:41
windows open, but then you get the church bells ringing at 6:00
28:43
AM. It's part of the charm or part
28:46
of the annoyance, depending on your perspective, right?
28:49
Now safety. The Dolomites feel like a very
28:52
safe place, civilized European. But the mountains themselves
28:56
don't care about your safety, do they?
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Crime is virtually non existent. You can walk alone at night
29:00
anywhere. The danger is the environment,
29:02
specifically the weather Trap. That's the trap.
29:04
The pattern is incredibly consistent and predictable.
29:08
You wake up to a beautiful clear blue sky at 9:00 AM.
29:12
You think it's a perfect day. Then the sun's heat builds up
29:15
over the valleys, moisturizes, and by 2:00 PM, apocalyptic
29:20
hail. Apocalyptic hail.
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You're not exaggerating. Not at all.
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The thunderstorms here are violent.
29:25
They get trapped by the peaks, so the sound amplifies and
29:28
echoes. The real danger is being on a
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via ferrata, those iron cable climbs when lightning strikes.
29:34
Oh, right, let's pause on via Ferata.
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We haven't really defined that for people.
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So a via ferrata, which means Iron Way, is a system of steel
29:42
cables, ladders and rungs drilled into the rock.
29:45
They were originally built during World War I to move
29:47
troops and artillery across the cliffs.
29:50
Today, they allow regular hikers to clip in with a harness and
29:52
climb vertical faces that would normally require professional
29:55
rock climbing skills. Which sounds incredibly cool
29:58
until you realize you're basically holding onto a giant
30:01
lightning rod. Exactly.
30:02
You are attached to a metal cable on a mountain peak during
30:05
an electrical storm. It is lethal.
30:08
People die every year because they started their hike too
30:10
late. The advice is strict.
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Start early, like 6:00 AM or 7:00 AM and be off the high
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peaks and back below the tree line by 1:00 PM.
30:19
Do not push your luck with the afternoon weather.
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And checking the weather app on your iPhone isn't going to cut
30:24
it I assume. No, the iPhone just says rain.
30:27
Likely you need to look at local radar or a site like medio
30:30
alarm. You need to see where the storm
30:32
cells are forming in real time. Okay, one last risk, the rental
30:36
car scam. This sounds nasty.
30:39
It is because there is so much loose gravel on the mountain
30:41
roads. Stone chips on cars are very,
30:44
very common. Some less furbulous rental
30:46
agencies know this and will try to charge you €500 for a tiny
30:50
scratch on the bumper that was probably already there when you
30:52
picked it up. So what do you do?
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How do you protect yourself? You film the car at pickup.
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Before you drive away, take your phone out and do a slow high
31:00
resolution video. Walk around of every single inch
31:04
of that vehicle. Wheels, windshield, bumpers,
31:07
everything. If they try to charge you later,
31:09
you have the video evidence with time stamps.
31:12
That is a pro tip. OK, we've covered the scary
31:15
stuff, the expensive stuff and the waiters who won't be your
31:17
best friend. Let's get to the good stuff.
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Why do we go segment 6 highlights and best kept
31:23
secrets? Because despite the crowds,
31:27
there are wins to be had. Absolutely.
31:29
If you navigate the minefield, the payoff is massive.
31:32
The experts highlight a specific experience that really
31:35
encapsulates the contrarian approach hiking down the Lagazoy
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tunnels. OK, unpack this for me.
31:40
We're going back to the World War One history, yes.
31:43
The mountain of Lagasue was the frontline between the Italians
31:46
and the Austro Hungarians. The Austrians held the top, the
31:48
Italians held a ledge below. To try and gain the advantage,
31:51
the Italians drilled a spiral tunnel inside the mountain to
31:54
try and plant explosives and blow up the Austrians from
31:57
below. The whole mountain is a
31:58
honeycomb of rock. And you can actually walk
32:00
through it. You can.
32:02
It's a living museum. It is dark, it's wet, it's
32:05
steep, and it's incredibly haunting.
32:08
Now most people hike up the tunnels, which is physically
32:10
exhausting and you're stuck behind slow groups.
32:13
The win is to take the cable car U at 8:30 AM, be the first one
32:17
on it, enjoy the view from the top, then put on your headlamp
32:21
and hike down through the tunnels.
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Why is going down so much better?
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Because you are going against the flow of traffic.
32:27
You are alone. You have the darkness to
32:29
yourself. You can stop and look out
32:31
through the gun ports. They cut into the Cliff face.
32:33
It is a visceral heavy history lesson.
32:36
You pop out mid Cliff. It's a truly unique experience
32:38
you can't get anywhere else in the world.
32:40
That sounds incredible. And there's a visual phenomenon
32:42
mentioned to the Nrosedira. That's a beautiful word.
32:45
The Nrosedira. It translates roughly to turning
32:48
pink. The dolomites are made of a
32:50
specific type of rock, a dolomite rock, which is calcium
32:54
carbonate and magnesium. It's basically ancient coral
32:57
reef. The chemical composition of this
32:59
rock reacts with the wavelength of the setting sun in a unique
33:02
way. So it's not just a regular
33:03
sunset. No, it's a chemical glow.
33:06
The pale grey rock turns a soft pink, then a burning orange,
33:10
then a deep purple before fading to black.
33:13
It happens fast, just a few minutes.
33:16
The best way to enjoy it is to be sitting on a balcony or at a
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refugio with a glass of LA grain.
33:20
That's the local red wine, which is deep and earthy and
33:24
delicious. That is the moment, that's the
33:26
payoff. That is the moment where you
33:27
forgive the 30 year old parking fee and the grumpy waiter.
33:31
I can imagine, but let's play devil's advocate.
33:33
What if I just can't afford it? Or what if I just refuse to deal
33:36
with 400 people in a queue for a photo?
33:39
Are there alternatives? There are, and this is where the
33:42
Plan B becomes really valuable. If the Dolomites are too much,
33:45
too expensive, too busy, you should go to the Julian Alps and
33:48
Slovenia. Slovenia.
33:49
That's not Italy. It's right next door.
33:51
You cross the border and you are in Triglav National Park.
33:54
The experts say it looks 90% the same.
33:56
It's the same limestone geology, the same impossibly blue rivers.
34:01
The Socha River is actually bluer than anything in Italy.
34:04
And the price tag, that's the important question.
34:06
That's the key. It's 30% to 40% cheaper.
34:09
The beer is 3, not 7. The hotels are reasonable and
34:13
crucially, it is Wilder. It is less manicured, no nail
34:17
scissors, grass. It feels a bit more raw, more
34:20
adventurous. 90% of the view for 60% of the price, Yeah, that's a
34:23
very compelling value proposition.
34:25
It is. The food is different, more
34:27
Slavic, more goulash, but the mountains are absolutely world
34:30
class. Another alternative if you want
34:32
to stay in Italy is the Iosta Valley.
34:34
This is in the northwest, near France and Switzerland.
34:36
Near Mont Blanc in the matter. Or exactly this is where you go
34:40
if you are a The food in Ayosta is incredible.
34:43
We're talking Fontina cheese fondue, polenta concia, which is
34:48
basically equal parts cheese and butter with some cornmeal.
34:51
The peaks are bigger, 4000 meters versus 3000.
34:54
It feels more rugged, more high Alpine, and because it's harder
34:57
to get to than the Dolomites, there are fewer tour buses.
35:00
So you have options. You don't have to follow the
35:02
herd to Lago de Braise. This brings us to the final
35:05
verdict, the matrix moment. We've laid out the good, the bad
35:08
and the expensive. Who should actually go to the
35:10
Dolomites and who should stay away?
35:12
Let's break it down by traveler profile first.
35:15
The backpacker, the 22 year old with a rail pass in a very tight
35:18
budget. The verdict is no.
35:22
Just a flat no, don't even try. It is hostile to low budgets.
35:25
You will spend your whole time stressing about every euro.
35:28
You won't be able to afford the lifts, so you'll be exhausted
35:31
from hiking the boring valley approaches just to get to the
35:34
start of the real trail. Go to Slovenia or go to the high
35:37
tetras in Slovakia. You will have a much better
35:39
time. OK harsh but clear.
35:42
Next the mid range couple. Maybe a honeymoon or an
35:45
anniversary. They have some money saved, but
35:48
they aren't millionaires. The verdict is yes, but with
35:51
strict conditions. You must avoid August.
35:54
You must rent a small car, and you should budget about $250 a
35:57
day total. And you have to be ready to
35:59
hike. If you just drive from viewpoint
36:01
to viewpoint, you'll be disappointed.
36:02
You have to walk to find the romance.
36:04
Makes sense. What about the family?
36:06
Two kids? Maybe a dog?
36:07
The verdict is yes, but be prepared for high effort and
36:11
high cost. Those lift passes times 4 add up
36:14
incredibly fast. But it is safe, it is clean and
36:17
the infrastructure is great for kids.
36:19
Just know it won't be a relaxing, cheap holiday, it's an
36:22
adventure. And finally, the luxury
36:25
traveler, the person who doesn't look at the price of the wine.
36:28
The verdict is absolute. Yes, without a doubt it is a
36:32
world class luxury destination. The spa, hotels, the Michelin
36:36
dining, the private helicopter tours.
36:38
If you have the budget, it is paradise.
36:41
The curated nature of the region is designed exactly for you.
36:44
So if you can pay for the silence, you can find it.
36:47
Exactly. The silence has a price tag.
36:48
So what's the closing thought here if you had to summarize
36:50
this entire deep dive into one piece of advice?
36:53
The Dolomites are an engineering marvel and a geological wonder.
36:57
They are truly unique in the world.
36:58
But they are a premium product now.
37:00
They are not a hidden gem anymore.
37:02
To find the silence, you have to navigate the logistics like a
37:05
pro. Go in late September, rent that
37:07
small car, wake up obscenely early and, crucially, walk past
37:11
the one hour mark. The magic happens past the one
37:13
hour mark. I like that rule.
37:15
It applies to a lot of things in life, actually.
37:17
It does. And of course, the final tip
37:19
from the experts Eat the dumplings.
37:22
Always eat the dumplings. Calories don't count above 2000
37:25
meters, right? I'm pretty sure that's science.
37:28
We'll go with that. Sounds right to me.
37:30
Before we go, I want to leave you with a provocative thought
37:33
that came up while we're digging into all this.
37:36
We talked a lot about the Instagram effect and the crowds.
37:39
In a world of bucket list tourism, are we destroying the
37:44
very culture we claim to be seeking by treating these
37:47
regions as backdrops rather than living communities?
37:51
Are we just consuming the view instead of understanding the
37:53
place? Something to chew on while you
37:55
check those flight prices to Slovenia.
37:58
Thanks for listening to this deep dive.
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We'll see you on the next one. Safe travels.