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AFP - One Week To Go! Get out and vote · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: The talk station. 729-55-KRC, the talk station. Just got an
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  Speaker 1: email from Jack Atherton. I did not fall down drunk.
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  Speaker 1: We actually had an internet crash, so that's why Jack
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  Speaker 1: Atherton had to leave us prematurely. Not his fault. We'll
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  Speaker 1: get him back next Wednesday for another hopefully full edition
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  Speaker 1: of The Big Picture. And without further ado, it's that
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  Speaker 1: time of week where we hear from Donald O'Neill from
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  Speaker 1: Americans for Prosperity. We got a topic list today to
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  Speaker 1: go over and Donovan, welcome back to the morning show.
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  Speaker 1: Is AFP still knocking doors as we fast approach Election Day?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you know it, Brian.
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  Speaker 1: We don't stop. It's only getting started. Well, I ask
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  Speaker 1: that question as a predicate to ask you, are you
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  Speaker 1: hearing anybody talk about this ridiculous non-issue that is the
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  Speaker 1: Amy Acton ad thing?
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  Speaker 2: Actually, it's interesting you bring that up, Ryan, because that was,
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  Speaker 2: you know, while I was consuming that just like you
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  Speaker 2: and probably most of, you know, Capitol Square, Ohio politicos,
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  Speaker 2: one of the things we noticed is folks actually weren't
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  Speaker 2: talking about it at the doors. You know, it took,
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  Speaker 2: but I'll be honest, we've started to hear a little
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  Speaker 2: bit about the governor's race and rumblings. But I wonder, though,
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  Speaker 2: if that's not, you know, one, we're focused on the
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  Speaker 2: Houston race. That's what we're going to people's doors with.
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  Speaker 2: So that's where the conversation usually lives. I think we're
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  Speaker 2: finding those more folks are locking in on who they're
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  Speaker 2: going to be voting for. And so they're more open
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  Speaker 2: and comfortable sharing their plans for voting. I'll be honest, though,
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  Speaker 2: that has not has not come up in a meaningful
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  Speaker 2: way at the doors.
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  Speaker 1: How about that? Maybe that means it's not meaningful in
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  Speaker 1: the sense that people are all crazy and I can't
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  Speaker 1: believe Vivek Ramesh would have the nerve. Good. That actually
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  Speaker 1: reflects maybe people are smarter than the Democrats are making
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  Speaker 1: them out to be. You know, there's things that you're
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  Speaker 1: focusing on Houston. I had this conversation with Strecker before
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  Speaker 1: the program started, and I just chimed in with him
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  Speaker 1: real quick while you were talking to make sure that
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  Speaker 1: I was accurate before I said it out loud. He's
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  Speaker 1: reached out to Houston's campaign quite a few times and
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  Speaker 1: nothing to be on the morning show to spread the word.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm kind of question marking that. Interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they, I mean, you know, they're burning up
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  Speaker 2: the rubber around the state. We've done a few door
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  Speaker 2: launch events. And one we did in Columbus a little
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  Speaker 2: over a week ago in high spirits and working hard.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know. We should maybe have Joe push
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  Speaker 1: them a little harder. Well, maybe me saying it out loud.
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  Speaker 1: There's someone out there that's on the campaign that might
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  Speaker 1: get the word over that it would benefit him perhaps.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe he views it as non-beneficial to be in the
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  Speaker 1: morning show. I don't know. I'd love to have him on.
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  Speaker 1: You're a great program. I want to get him elected.
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  Speaker 1: You know, that's my goal.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Anyhow, what are you hearing and door knocking? Is the
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  Speaker 1: data center issue still a huge issue for Ohio voters?
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  Speaker 1: Not honestly, no.
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  Speaker 2: That's also dropped off while it spiked, I would say,
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  Speaker 2: in June and July. I think really what it comes
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  Speaker 2: down to, maybe this is, you know, connected in some
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  Speaker 2: way to that. It's cost of living, right? It's energy bills.
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  Speaker 2: It's it's gasoline. It's it's food at the grocery store.
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  Speaker 1: And what?
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  Speaker 2: You know, the message we're delivering, because we're still focused
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  Speaker 2: on these swing independent voters, and there are a number
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  Speaker 2: of them still trying to make their minds up, believe
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  Speaker 2: it or not. The thing that's pulling at their hearts
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  Speaker 2: is they know Sherrod Brown was part of the problem
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  Speaker 2: and why we're in the situation we're in. They voted
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  Speaker 2: two years ago for change, and they want to see
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  Speaker 2: it happen. The message we're delivering is we didn't get
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  Speaker 2: into that problem overnight. We're not going to get out
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  Speaker 2: of it overnight. And the real choice here is do
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  Speaker 2: you go backwards to the guy who voted for the
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  Speaker 2: Green Energy New Deals that made energy more expensive? Do
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  Speaker 2: you vote for the guy who passed the Unaffordable Care
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  Speaker 2: Act that made your health care more expensive?
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  Speaker 1: Do you vote for the.
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  Speaker 2: Guy who who, by the way, Sherrod Brown, that voted
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  Speaker 2: for the Bidenomics Inflation Reduction Act that made everything cost more?
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  Speaker 2: Or do we vote for John Husted, a common sense
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  Speaker 2: clear path forward, right? Been there 20 months and voted
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  Speaker 2: on legislation like the working family tax cuts that delivered
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  Speaker 2: results for families. And if we send him back. We'll
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  Speaker 2: be voting for the kinds of things we need to
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  Speaker 2: get us out of the problems we're in today. So
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  Speaker 2: that's what we're talking to folks about as they're torn
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  Speaker 2: on that cost of living dynamic that I think has
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  Speaker 2: dominated over half, if not 75 percent of the conversations
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  Speaker 2: I think our folks are having out there these days.
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  Speaker 1: Well, do you get the impression that in spite of
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  Speaker 1: the fact that we're living with some painful times, diesel
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  Speaker 1: and gasoline price wise, and of course, energy price wise,
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  Speaker 1: that they get the point that you just made that
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  Speaker 1: I've been hammering home over and over again? they were
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  Speaker 1: more expensive and gas was more expensive under Biden, brought
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  Speaker 1: to you by legislation, an intentional increase in the cost
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  Speaker 1: of production of gasoline for the purpose of making it
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  Speaker 1: more expensive. Do people get it? I know it's difficult
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  Speaker 1: to say and feel like, I don't want to reward
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  Speaker 1: the party that is forcing me to pay six bucks
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  Speaker 1: a gallon for diesel fuel. But by the same token,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to reward the party that put policies
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  Speaker 1: in place, not economic realities interfering or impacting the price
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  Speaker 1: of gasoline, but literally policies that will keep the price
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  Speaker 1: at an inflated level versus what the market would actually
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  Speaker 1: be charging if you allowed a little bit of freedom
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  Speaker 1: and a regulatory environment that will recognize the need for
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  Speaker 1: fossil fuels. Do they get it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, nobody's going to admit they're wrong to a stranger
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  Speaker 2: on the front porch, Brian, but I will tell you,
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  Speaker 2: we see folks you know, there's a number of folks
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  Speaker 2: who will make that concession, right? And I think, you know,
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  Speaker 2: part of what we want to do, right, is we
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  Speaker 2: talk to those people in the spring, in the summer,
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  Speaker 2: in the fall. We follow that up with mail and digital. And,
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  Speaker 2: you know, there's the other campaigns that are out there
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  Speaker 2: doing what they're doing to elevate that message. And so
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  Speaker 2: the hope is, right, that conversation where we provide somebody
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  Speaker 2: with a counterpoint to maybe what they're hearing in the
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  Speaker 2: negative ads or their cousin who's a, you know, raging
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  Speaker 2: liberal has told them, you know, at the family picnic
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  Speaker 2: this summer. that we can move them. And so we
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  Speaker 2: see it. We see the gears turning. It's why we
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  Speaker 2: continue to do what we do, because these folks are winnable.
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  Speaker 2: We have to go out there and present them with
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  Speaker 2: those facts to help them make the best decision when
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  Speaker 2: they go into the ballot box next week.
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  Speaker 1: Fair enough. We're going to bring you back. We'll be
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  Speaker 1: talking about regardless of who wins, and I know the
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  Speaker 1: polling suggests this is going to be a big blue wave,
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  Speaker 1: but we can deal with the challenges that presents. And
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  Speaker 1: I know AFP is going to be out there hammering
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  Speaker 1: home the issues that really will make Ohio a better place.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk about a few of those. The Talk Station.
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  Speaker 1: 740 at 55k or cd talk station brian thomas with
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  Speaker 1: donovan and neil for americans for prosperity helping you get
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  Speaker 1: involved for the benefit of all residents of the state
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  Speaker 1: of ohio and okay we're gonna have to deal with
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  Speaker 1: tuesday hopefully we will come out on top we the
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  Speaker 1: conservative logical reasonable minded people and not the left-wing crazies
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  Speaker 1: that want to uh well rule every component rule every
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  Speaker 1: aspect of our life that's my take agree or not
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  Speaker 1: but If the Democrats do end up with a blue wave,
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  Speaker 1: Donald O'Neill, that's not the end of AFP actions work
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  Speaker 1: here in the state of Ohio. We've got some serious
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  Speaker 1: issues to continue knocking doors on and discuss it by
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  Speaker 1: way of priority. What in your mind are, well, let's
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  Speaker 1: say the top three, Donald?
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I mean, here in the state, you know,
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  Speaker 2: at AFP, we do the political work we do because
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  Speaker 2: we're working to achieve transformational public policy. And there's still
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  Speaker 2: some open items. We talked about data centers in.
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  Speaker 1: The last segment.
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  Speaker 2: The legislature left that as an open-ended conversation from their
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  Speaker 2: summer session this year. The other areas that we've got
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  Speaker 2: to think about, one of the things Governor DeWine vetoed
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  Speaker 2: was the RAINS Act. That's regulatory reforms that would really
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  Speaker 2: put the executive in check.
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  Speaker 1: Remind my listeners in the context of Ohio what that meant,
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  Speaker 1: because I'm struggling to understand that veto.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so RAINS Act is regulations from the executive in
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  Speaker 2: need of scrutiny. And so when the legislature passes laws,
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  Speaker 2: there is an intent they're supposed to put behind them,
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  Speaker 2: and the executive's job is to execute those laws. But
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  Speaker 2: what we found over the years, and you see this
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  Speaker 2: famously at the federal level with taking 1970s environmental rules
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  Speaker 2: and stretching them and contorting them to apply to preferred
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  Speaker 2: policy outcomes right now. What the REINS Act does is
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  Speaker 2: it puts a stop and a check on that. And
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  Speaker 2: it says anything over a certain dollar amount is usually
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  Speaker 2: how these legislations crafted. Anything that would have a certain
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  Speaker 2: dollar amount impact on the economy through the regulations has
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  Speaker 2: to actually be affirmatively approved by the legislature before it
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  Speaker 2: goes into effect. And so it puts a check on
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  Speaker 2: the executive and enables the legislature to from laws that
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  Speaker 2: were passed six months ago to laws that were passed
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  Speaker 2: 60 years ago, to do its job and actually affirm, yes,
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  Speaker 2: when we wrote that legislation, or yes, when that legislation
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  Speaker 2: was drafted 60 years ago and is still in effect,
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  Speaker 2: we agree that is the proper use and intent of
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  Speaker 2: that law. It's power to the people, Brian.
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  Speaker 1: It is.
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  Speaker 2: And of course, you can imagine the bureaucrats and the
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  Speaker 2: executive branch dislike it. And unfortunately, even some in the
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  Speaker 2: legislature dislike it because, believe it or not, it makes
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  Speaker 2: them do a little bit more work and have to
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  Speaker 2: actually take some votes on things they may otherwise want
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  Speaker 2: to cover their eyes and close their ears to. It's good,
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  Speaker 2: but it's good government legislation.
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  Speaker 1: Votes that might make them uncomfortable to certain of their
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  Speaker 1: lobbyist and campaign contributors, perhaps, Donovan.
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  Speaker 2: That's an element.
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  Speaker 1: It's possible, isn't it? Wow, that never happens in politics.
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  Speaker 2: It's easier to just say, well, you know, that dang
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  Speaker 2: governor there in the mansions just making these walls.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks for the cover, Mike. Appreciate that veto. You kept
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  Speaker 1: me out of trouble and you saved me some extra work. So,
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  Speaker 1: so it's good all around.
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  Speaker 2: And, uh, it was included in the state budget, believe
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  Speaker 2: it or not, it's an open veto item. And it's
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  Speaker 2: something again, um, we're, we're kind of triangulating around with
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  Speaker 2: some other coalition partners. Our grassroots were fired up for it.
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  Speaker 2: As you can imagine, uh, it's passed in over a
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  Speaker 2: dozen States, uh, in just the past 12 months. And, uh,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna, we're gonna make a push to see if
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  Speaker 2: we can't get this thing done during the lame duck.
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  Speaker 1: Um, It's going to be critical legislation for sure. Short
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  Speaker 1: window of time to do it. But finally, something that
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  Speaker 1: we could all use a big dose of is regulatory relief.
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  Speaker 1: How is it possible that it is difficult for entrepreneurs
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  Speaker 1: to test their ideas and Bring useful products and services
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  Speaker 1: to the market here in the state of Ohio. And
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  Speaker 1: why are there impediments that haven't already been removed, Donovan?
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  Speaker 1: This just irks me to no end.
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  Speaker 2: Well, as you can imagine, in a world where there
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  Speaker 2: is emergent technology and emergent innovation every day, it feels
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  Speaker 2: like right now, right?
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  Speaker 1: Certainly.
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  Speaker 2: One of the big question marks for investors, for entrepreneurs,
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  Speaker 2: for folks who want to bring their business or idea
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  Speaker 2: and do it here in the Buckeye State is what
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  Speaker 2: will the regulators do, right? Will someone find it unsavory
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  Speaker 2: and regulate me out of existence? Or worse yet, will
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  Speaker 2: the big tech companies, right, the Googles, the Metas, the
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  Speaker 2: big boys of the world in the industry, when you're
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  Speaker 2: trying to disrupt them, guess what they do? They go
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  Speaker 2: in and they build friendships, just like you're talking about,
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  Speaker 2: with the lawmakers, with the regulators. And they create the
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  Speaker 2: rules in a way that favored them. There's legislation out there, though,
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  Speaker 2: called regulatory sandboxes. And what this legislation does is it
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  Speaker 2: creates sort of the safe space, if you will, for
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  Speaker 2: the innovators to operate. They sort of raise their hand
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  Speaker 2: and say, hey, we have some new technology that's not
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  Speaker 2: really clear what the regulation is. You know, they contact
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  Speaker 2: the office office. of regulatory oversight, I forget what it
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  Speaker 2: would be called in the legislation, but they sort of
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  Speaker 2: raise their hand and say, hey, we're not regulated right now,
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  Speaker 2: but we've got some stuff that we think is going
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  Speaker 2: to be really great and create opportunity for a lot
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  Speaker 2: of people. We're going to innovate and we want to
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  Speaker 2: kind of communicate and work with you folks rather than
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  Speaker 2: the regulators coming in and squashing us or the folks
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  Speaker 2: with insider access, like the existing technologies or industries. regulating
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  Speaker 2: the amount of existence, these folks sort of get to
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  Speaker 2: operate in a safe space and build up their business,
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  Speaker 2: identify where public safety regulations might be of some level
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  Speaker 2: of necessity, but also avoid unnecessary regulations while they are
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  Speaker 2: building and growing and creating that next innovation and opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: right here in the state of Ohio. So regulatory sandboxes
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  Speaker 2: sounds a little wonky. Basic idea is create a safe
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  Speaker 2: space where government can't come in and start squashing these
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  Speaker 2: businesses before they've even taken off.
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  Speaker 1: That's what bothers me so much. They're stopping the progress
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  Speaker 1: in its tracks ahead of time before they're able to
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  Speaker 1: see what the ultimate product turns out to be. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: people will still be liable if they rush to judgment
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  Speaker 1: and put something out on the market free of regulation,
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  Speaker 1: that harms folks. Were they going to be liable for
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  Speaker 1: the harm caused by what they brought to the market?
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  Speaker 1: There's always opportunities for recovery of damages, but to stand
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  Speaker 1: in the way of the full development of something before
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  Speaker 1: the benefits are fully realized or known, that to me, conceptually,
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  Speaker 1: that bothers me. Well, absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: And again, one of the things we've educated lawmakers on
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  Speaker 2: around this who say, you know, they're concerned about environmental
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  Speaker 2: impacts or.
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  Speaker 1: What a particular– if someone will try to find a loophole.
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  Speaker 2: Through this, we already have– A lot of those protections and,
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  Speaker 2: you know, air quotes protections, Brian.
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  Speaker 1: In place.
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  Speaker 2: The reality is the existing regulatory regime creates problems. That's
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  Speaker 2: why the RAINS Act is important, to avoid it from growing.
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  Speaker 2: But the sandboxes are important to allow that next emergent
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  Speaker 2: technology or innovation or opportunity to be developed right here
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  Speaker 2: in Ohio and flourish to serve the world. It's good government. Again,
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  Speaker 2: good government stuff, I think, is going to be the
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  Speaker 2: theme of this lame duck. And it's something our folks
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  Speaker 2: are going to be dialed and focused in on.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. And I hate to go back to France, but
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  Speaker 1: that's one of the problems they face in France is
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  Speaker 1: the impediments to development of a business and industry. It's
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  Speaker 1: sort of the default position is, no, we will not
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  Speaker 1: change things. It's sort of status quo is the only
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  Speaker 1: acceptable norm. And if you try to move forward, it's
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  Speaker 1: just not a business environment at all. It's terrible. That's
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  Speaker 1: one of the reasons they struggle. The intellectual talent leaves
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  Speaker 1: environments like that and goes someplace else. Oh, like the
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  Speaker 1: United States.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and a lot of that also, I understand, protects
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  Speaker 2: entrenched interests, right? Folks 20 years ago were able to
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  Speaker 2: write the laws, create the regulations, create all the value
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  Speaker 2: and wealth off of something. And then they've used government
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  Speaker 2: to build a moat around themselves that somebody up and
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  Speaker 2: coming isn't able to break into. It's horrible.
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  Speaker 1: It's wrong.
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  Speaker 2: And these regulatory sandboxes are a way to sort of
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  Speaker 2: break that stranglehold and create opportunity.
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  Speaker 1: I'm reminded of the cab drivers who were pulling their
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  Speaker 1: hair out when the concept of Lyft and Uber came out.
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  Speaker 1: There were a lot of efforts by the cab drivers
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  Speaker 1: to protect their own interests through regulation and law. So
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  Speaker 1: can't handle the new technology. Going back to that whole
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  Speaker 1: buggy whip analogy in that movie. Yeah, there was a
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  Speaker 1: lot of buggy whip manufacturers out there, and ultimately there's
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  Speaker 1: only one left, and that one went out of business too. Why?
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  Speaker 1: Because the car got to move forward with modern conveniences
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  Speaker 1: and technologies. And look, the world's able to adjust accordingly.
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  Speaker 1: It's happened before. over and over again throughout this country's
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  Speaker 1: history and throughout the history of mankind. Don O'Neill, how
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  Speaker 1: can we help out? There's still work to be done
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  Speaker 1: throughout the year, even after the election. So what do
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  Speaker 1: we need to do?
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  Speaker 2: Well, if you want to help us in the final
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  Speaker 2: stretch at AFP Action Knock Doors, go to afpaction.com. If
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  Speaker 2: you like what you're hearing on some of these policy
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  Speaker 2: things and you want to help us during the lame
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  Speaker 2: duck session, go to buckeyeblueprint.com. And either way you do it, folks,
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  Speaker 2: we need help. You know, you don't get a bolder,
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  Speaker 2: better Buckeye State sitting on the sidelines. We need you.